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CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE

 
“Saturday, May 03, 2008 Christian and Missionary Alliance Denomination Years ago I was a member of a Christian and Missionary Alliance Church in Santa Monica. The denomination closed us down, too. I guess they took whatever was in the bank account, even though the pastor was left without a job. They did not show any sympathy for our little church closing…so I can understand a little about how this Vietnamese church felt.” 
 
 I am a Pentecostal Minister who attended the Alliance Churches for 8 years.. These below are some of my most popular post about the CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE  being read by many on many of my internet sites..
 
It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus  interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still  greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
 
It is absurd for anyone to now even to try to hoodwink me as to how supposedly spiritually the Christian Missionary Alliance Church is as well, rather in truth the CMA Corporation now is supposedly. It would not work for I already do know the much too many negative truths about the CMA  firsthand and for many decades now too. No amount of whitewash can cover up their real dirty plays still too as I have seen firsthand.

The CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE
 
“CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE NAMED IN CONSPIRACY LAWSUIT FILED: CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD CHINESE CHURCH OF $650,000 CHURCH PROPERTYAND APPROXIMATELY $18,000 IN BANK ACCOUNTS by James Sundquist
 
In a major lawsuit, the Mid America District of the Christian & Missionary Alliance (hereafter C&MA) was named by a group of former members of the Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs. The C&MA is one of the largest Evangelical Protestant Christian denominations, with 2,010 C&MA churches in the U.S., and 440 in Canada, with approximately 417,000 members in the United States. The Plaintiff has alleged that the C&MA conspired to defraud and subsequently confiscate and convert their $650,000 church property and assets and emptied their approximately $18,000 in bank accounts, located in Colorado Springs, Colorado, U.S.A. The Defendant, C&MA Mid America District Headquarters office, is located in Omaha, Nebraska. C&MA National Church Ministries Vice President Rev. John Soper endorsed and approved both the closure and the sale of the church property in two letters.  http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/CMAChineseHijackingTOCPDF.pdf
  
This is not unique. The Chinese church is just one of the more recent victims of the C&MA’s Church Growth Movement Church Multiplication, Church Health formulas for measuring spirituality, and Small Group grand strategies being implemented in the U.S., and Canada to takeover and transform churches. After the C&MA had given the Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs an ultimatum of 15 months to redevelop, the lawsuit alleges that they reneged on it in 3 months. After closing the church down, the C&MA wouldn’t even let them keep their Chinese translation Bibles and library (refusing to return them even upon request in writing). After about 18 months the C&MA put the property on the market and sold the property to a Karate company. Named in the lawsuit are: Christian & Missionary Alliance, Randall Burg, District Superintendent for the Mid America District of the C&MA, the Mid America District of the C&MA, and Dr. Robert Trempert, Interim Pastor just prior to the closing of the church. This C&MA District includes Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska. The Plaintiff also alleges that the C&MA secured and conveyed the deed without informing the congregation, then used unfounded charges to evict the whole congregation, which was about 30 regular attendees, and closed down the church and threw them out on the street. It is also the intent of former members of this church to alert and warn all C&MA churches, the church at large, and the Asian community throughout the world, that this could happen to them too! We are grateful to the many members of the national media have already asked to run this story even before this press release went out. These Chinese Christians and how the C&MA applied the Reversion Clause of its constitution to this church feels like this a “mortgage made in Hell”…you have to make mortgage payments to the C&MA [or its own approved lender], including interest…then when the building is paid off in half of the 15 year mortgage, you the borrower get to (have to) give the C&MA lender the building and property too…what a deal! Many of these older saints who came from Communist China where they were persecuted hoped that this could not happen in the U.S., let alone at the hands of the church. They found out they were wrong! On July 1, 2006, members of The Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs discovered that the locks on their building had been changed when attempting to attend a prayer meeting. One Sunday, July 2, 2006, the congregrants came to worship and found out they were evicted from their own building, with the knowledge and consent, the Alliance, MAD, Burg, and Trempet proceeded to lock the Chinese Church out of its own building. Instead of taking care of widows and the homeless, the C&MA leaders created them, while simultaneously blaming these victims. Someone did come to their rescue and hear their Chinese church’s SOS cries for help. There was a good Samaritan in Colorado Springs who showed great mercy and provided shelter for these approximately 30 fleeing Chinese refugee saints and helped them get back on their feet again, and that was Pastor David Fitzgerald and the Garden Ranch Baptist Church. Then the Garden Ranch Baptist Church gave immediate relief under emergency powers, then helped them redevelop church polity and comply with requirements of the State of Colorado and the IRS to start a new church…all in a period of about six months…without strings attached.” “Contrary to what C&MA leaders would have you do, and that is hear the victims side of the story vs. just the perpetrators, as good Christians and good Bereans, you should want to read the other side of the story for yourselves.” 
 
 
 To make it simple or appealing to the ignorant the CMA has simplified their doctrines, Jesus Christ as Savior, Healer, Coming King, Sanctifier too… but what is really totally absent and very very significant.. is that they don’t mention often or at all  Jesus as the helper of the poor people.. and  what they do not practice giving aid, money to the poor people in their own church, rather when they become poor they kick them out instead? They CMA executives they only still help themselves?
 
In regard to the CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE I myself have encountered pastors, district superintendents too both IN QUEBEC AND IN ALBERTA AND I TOO WAS SHOCKED FIRST HAND TO NOTE HOW THEY DO READILY LIE, ABUSE PEOPLE, ARE RUTHLESS, REAL FACTS I HAVE A LONG TIME AGO BEFORE ALL THIS HAD DETAILED EVEN ON THE WEB, TO CANADA’S MAJOR NEWS EDITORS, THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENTS NOW TOO.
 
Notice this before you next even do try to lie to me and say how good they are firstly. For you cannot deny my personal witness of how bad they are.
 
To be honest, and to be fair to all of the supposedly Christian pastors too,  at least 70 percent of all North American evangelical pastors they are certainly also not anointed  by the Holy Sprit, even the fundamental, Baptist ones now too, for they have not been called by God for  the ministry, and they are still only Hirelings, so it is not surprising that 70 percent of them had committed adultery too… Never mind their cheating, lying stealing now too.
  
I was shocked as to how many Evangelical pastors That I  know  personally had committed adultery, and I caught one reading dirty books at the local airport too.
 
 Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away from the Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly and they have a very similar church management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the expenditures to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church .. Yes the same Christian Missionary alliance church, rather Corporation.. the bad so called church that our Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper goes too. The Christian and Missionary Alliance (COMA) is an Evangelical Protestant denomination within Christianity. Founded by Rev. Albert Benjamin Simpson in 1887, the Christian & Missionary Alliance did not start off as a denomination, but rather began as two distinct Para church organizations: The Christian Alliance which focused on the pursuit and promotion of the Higher Christian life and The Evangelical Missionary Alliance, which focused on mobilizing “consecrated” Christians in the work of foreign missionary efforts. These two groups amalgamated in 1897 to form The Christian and Missionary Alliance. It was only much later during the mid twentieth century that an official denomination was formed. See my posts on the CMA.. It is owned and controlled by a Corporation. The Pentecostal Assembly of Canada, PAOC broke away from this corporation and formed it’s own corporation, so called church..
 
Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..
  
 The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included. 
 
THIS IS SPIRITUAL ABUSE!
 
 “It has not been and is not now my choice. The divorce and alienation of my family has been forced upon me and upon my family by evil men who would have their way with a man, his wife, and his children and grandchildren in order to promote and protect their own preeminence in lieu of protecting and building up the holy institution of marriage and family life.”  Divorce falsely supported  by evangelicals, dispensationalist brethren included..
 
 
The kind of abuse that Jesus condemned over and over again in the strongest ways possible!
 
“Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ”  and Walter or his wife Sandy  is no saint too.. nor his supporters too, or oppositions, none of these people here are really saints now as well..
 
“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).” 

Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.
 
I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing,  misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?
 
Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.    My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me.. He was an ex Christian & Missionary Alliance Missionary NOW AS WELL. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.
 
Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
  
1 Cor 1:10 -13 says, “Now I beseech you, brethren, BY THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; (sects or denominations) but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
    
How can you love and serve two masters? The Bible says you can’t. Whose name will you serve? In the name of Jesus, or in some man-made sectarian name? “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served….BUT AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD.” Josh 24:15.
  
(1 Cor 11:1 KJV)  Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.  1 John 2:27  “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”
 
“But Jesus called them [to him], and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all”. Mark 10:42-44.  “Not for that we have dominion over your faith , but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand” 2 Cor 1:23.
 
Christian and Missionary Alliance  Prime minister of Canada  Stephen Harper’s church too..
 
 
CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE LEADERS DEFRAUD VIETNAMESE BOAT PEOPLE OF $90,000 BANK ACCOUNTPRESS RELEASE DATE: MAY 1, 2008 LOCATION: LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A. CONTACT: DANIEL NGUYEN (Vietnamese Alliance Member), EMAIL: mailto:pouchgman@juno.com
 
“In another act of piracy, the Christian & Missionary Alliance collects more booty from Vietnamese Boat People Christians than it would have by ransacking them on the high seas. This hostile takeover is on the heels of a major lawsuit filed by a group of former members of the Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs against the Christian and Missionary Alliance denomination. On March 24, 2008, the C&MA, once again in a gesture of unbridled greed, seized the $90,000 bank account of another C&MA church, the Vietnamese Alliance Church of Long Beach, California. Reminiscent of what the C&MA did to the Chinese Alliance church, members of the Vietnamese church discovered that the locks on their church were changed, too, effectively rendering members as trespassers on their own property. And in like manner to the Chinese Alliance Church, C&MA leaders declared the Vietnamese church meetings invalid, trashed and held in complete contempt the local church’s constitution and bylaws, abused their spiritual authority, vilified the victims, defamed the messengers, and engaged in extolling and covering up the extortioner’s deeds. “
 
I had attended this church in Canada for over 8 years, and not by a long shot can they be even considered a Christian Church.. thieves, liars, slanderers, home breakers yes.  
 
Posted on  07 May 2008 17:03:50 +0000 8, 2006 by Darren Crane The absence of response of most of the C&MA pastors to the SOS cries of the Chinese Christians’ plight was deafening. Most C&MA pastors retaliated in response to my report, showing virtually no compassion for the plight of the Chinese Christians who lost their property, Bibles, and assets to the C&MA leaders. It will be interesting to see how they will respond now that the C&MA leaders did it again by picking off and poaching another Asian American church without even catching their breath, or ever repenting for what they did to the Chinese Alliance church (one response has already come in from Senior Pastor Tom Lance of The Grove Community Church, retaliating and censoring his own staff from hearing the truth, just like Daniel Wetzel did— see full report available upon request). It is the intent of many members of the Vietnamese Alliance church to alert and warn all C&MA churches, the church at large, and the Asian community throughout the world, that this could happen to them too! Now that it has happened twice, maybe they will be believed and even more will run stories on this second hijacking.
 
Swindlers, slanderers, traitors, and plunderers can’t enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but they can become and remain District Superintendents in the Christian and Missionary Alliance, and host them May 5-7, 2008 [http://www.cmaspd.org/]. In refusing to repent, showing no remorse or shame, refusing correction, and refusing restitution after plundering the Chinese Alliance Church, then doing it again to the Vietnamese Alliance Church, C&MA Vice President John Soper and his C&MA collaborators are without excuse and are spiritually twice dead. They are “Bad Samaritans from Hell” vs. Good Samaritans who take care of victims instead of creating them. The Apostle Peter said that “true religion is ministry to orphans and widows.” The C&MA is not ministering to orphans and widows when C&MA churches all stand to lose their bank accounts, church property and Bibles to the C&MA leadership. No wonder that the Prophet Isaiah warned the people: woe to false shepherds, derelict guardians, imaginary public protectors like these C&MA leaders ‘who call evil good’. The C&MA leaders did NOT walk in same steps as the Apostle Paul, to the Chinese and Vietnamese Christians, for Paul told the Corinthians “What I want is NOT your possessions”…or “exploit you through any of the men I sent you” but “spend for you EVERYTHING I have.” [2 Cor. 12:14-18] Take heed of Jesus Christ’s warning of turning his house of prayer into a den of thieves.” http://obadiah1317.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/christian-missionary-alliance-fraud-by-james-sundquist/
   
The  CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE  are the rich folks who steal from the poor folks and abuse them
  
And boy I was surprised next  with the Unchristian response on the web by Alliance supporters, who went into spin doctoring mode, even the for them it is bashings of others  to try to cover any of this up too.. easier to repent and rightfully too. 
 
An Alliance pastor had written to me and he had said.. “Thank you for your passion for the Church and fellow Christians. I’m a C& MA pastor and speaking from my heart, I simply want to serve God and shepherd His people without personal agenda. I always ask to God to lead me and give wisdom in godly living and ministry. I’m bothered by your comments about the majority of pastors being morally corrupted. On what ground did you say that 80% are not anointed and 70% commit adultery? and cheating, stealing, lying? It is heavy accusation toward those who commit full time to serve God. Please be careful and objective before you made those statement. Provide solid evidence and reference is one way to support your argument. I know many evangelical pastors who are dedicated good and faithful servants. Otherwise, this will only damage the Church without doing good. FYI, indeed the C&MA as a denomination does have strict requirement for pastors/ministers and bylaws for district and its churches. Also, I’m not the right person to comment on the lawsuit. However, if we trust the justice system, why don’t we wait for the trial and verdict before reading too much into it. ”
 
Here is my full detailed reply, from God as well..
 
(Ezek 3:17 KJV) Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
(Ezek 3:18 KJV) When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
(Jer 1:18 KJV) For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brazen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land.19 And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.
 
Where in the world did so many of evangelical pastors wrongfully get the idea they personally now are beyond any rightful criticism? rebuke, corrections? Certainly not from God.
 
It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
 
The first CMA pastor I met was an admitted coward, who had also told me that he had not made yet a full commitment in having Jesus Christ as the Lord of his life. His own wife was a slanderer, gossiper. His own daughter who lived with him was an admitted adulterer. The same pastor was also a home wrecker. He had also next tried to have me kicked out of the local church cause he was fearful of me, and in return was forced to resign by the local church board for trying to do so. And that was just the start of my bad introduction to the CMA.
 
The next CMA pastor I met was a con man, a shrewd salesmen, a story teller, who played mind games on other people, and he thus did not effect the people with any real, long lasting positive changes.
 
The next CMA pastor I met was an abusive person, even a thief, and he had a short lived ministry in the local church. The next CMA pastor I encountered in the same church was another Christian pretender, even a person who took bribes, was known to fellowship with a crook, a liar, an abusive person too. He was not any better.
 
And the first CMA district superintendent I had met was a con man, a shyster, manipulator who went on to be the president of the Canadian CMA too.
 
The next 6 CMA pastors in one church, district superintendents also were also con men, pretenders, imposters, unreal Christians, even unacceptable people abusers, even liars, slanders, gossipers, bashers of others.
 
The next too many bad CMA pastors I had personally interviewed openly admitted to me they did not use the Bible in counseling even, and thus they were mostly useless spiritually here too.
 
(Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way.
(Jer 6:28 KJV) They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters.
(Jer 6:29 KJV) The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away.
(Jer 6:30 KJV) Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
(Jer 7:1 KJV) The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
(Jer 7:2 KJV) Stand in the gate of the Lord’s house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD.
(Jer 7:3 KJV) Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place.
(Jer 7:4 KJV) Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.
(Jer 7:5 KJV) For if ye thoroughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye thoroughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
(Jer 7:6 KJV) If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
(Jer 7:7 KJV) Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.
(Jer 7:8 KJV) Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.
(Jer 7:9 KJV) Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
(Jer 7:10 KJV) And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?
(Jer 7:11 KJV) Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.
(Jer 7:12 KJV) But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.
(Jer 7:13 KJV) And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the LORD, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not;
(Jer 7:14 KJV) Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.
(Jer 7:15 KJV) And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.
(Jer 7:16 KJV) Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.
        
AND WE ALL SHOULD BE BOTHERED ABOUT THE 70 PERCENT BAD PASTORS.
 
 IT WAS MY FIRST CMA pastor who had told me that 70 percent of the pastors were bad, and it is statistics, andf my own DECADES OF experiences that confirm that 70 percent of Evangelical pastors wrongfully counsel divorce, commit adultery, cheat, lie. SLANDER, ABUSE, and steal as well.
 
This CMA itself is the most diabolic church I have dealt with in my lifetime in the last 50 years too.. and I have helped to fire many adulterous, bad pastors now too.. I have met many crooked CMA church pastors now too.. I had attended the CMA for 8 years, that same church that often cheats, lies, steals, slanders, abuses people, breaks UP HOME, MARRIAGES TOO.. and no one publically denied it when I had stood up in the Calgary First Alliance Church and told them what a liar their perverted senior pastor now was tool. No one! Every major news editor in Canada all 1000 elected politicians for years now too got detailed descriptions of how crooked this church, excuse me a crooked corporation really is and no one denied it too. Now have known two CMA presidents as well, many CMA pastors and I have never met a decent, honest one yet in Canada STILL too. No one had before you to this date had denied my witness of how bad this church was, no one. FOR THEY CANNOT DENY MY WITNESS OF IT.
 
I DO have many internet sites, including  those specifically WRITTEN FOR THE BAD, CROOKED EVANGELICAL PASTORS TOO.. and I do rightfully wonder whose ass you are trying to kiss now by defending THE CMA wrongfully too. I rightfully have no use for them at all! Tell them all I have said so openly too.
 
The CMA is a pretentious church, a racist church, a discriminating church, an anti female church too, a lying church .. and in Jesus own words, the rich who persecute the poor.. Allaince AB Simpson and AW Tozer would be really disgusted with the CMA just like me too with it.. Jesus is not King, Lord of this bad CMA church for sure… and really do they help the local poor people in their own churches, and give them 15 percent of the income.. not on your life.. they are imposters, pretenders..
 
And you can quote all that I have said now too to anyone.
 
“The Man, the movement, and the mission-A documentary of the C&MA”Cut directly from the national web site. It was the custom for  the ministers of the district to meet together to discuss all things common. This little reunion, in its proper sequence, was held one day at the Manse. And unaccountably strange odor of tobacco smoke began to steal upstairs. Suddenly the study door flew open and a towering figure of fury – all of four feet, one inch in its stocking feet – stood at the threshold. “SMOKING! Out of this house!” said  Grannie Simpson, and in a body the ministerial association moved.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15796002&postID=3424830162204895882&page=1&isPopup=true
http://reversion-clause.com/
 
Many people often ask is the c&ma against female pastors, Natives, Women as well? More likley the clergy,  are  against all laymen here.. it clearly, falsely  is a 2 level Christianity.. the Uppers and the Lowers… more like a dictatorship
  
To Alliance Life
The Christian and Missionary Alliance
8595 Explorer Drive
Colorado Springs, CO 80920
Phone: 719-265-2171
Fax: 719-599-8234
E-mail: alife@cmalliance.org
 
“The sheer magnitude of complete oblivion to the persecution of these Chinese saints is staggering. Though not perfect, were still all thrown under the bus by the C&MA. My first shock came when out of 3,000 C&MA pastors, only about 6 had concern and compassion for them, but 3 of these would not come forward publicly. The mailings to the 3,000 C&MA pastors and workers and the 3,036 Nyack College Alumni were not intended to be a survey but a SOS cry in behalf of Chinese Alliance Christians. But the horror of their responses and lack of responses has now become a story in itself and a billboard for why one should not become a member of the C&MA. ”
http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/NyackCollegeAlumniDesertChineseCMAMembers.pdf
  
(2 Cor 3:2 KJV)  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:Since when is now his Christianity or the lack of it been a secret? I have been writing about Canada’s  Evangelical Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his really bad Christian Missionary Alliance Church and I  also wrote about his clearly often unchristian behavior since he became a prime minister even to all, on the net too, 
 
And what is the secret part of it? That too many Evangelicals are ashamed of him for drinking alcohol? Giving it to others too..  

Insiders knew that the Latter rain Canadian evangelist in Lakeland Florida Rev Todd Bentley had gone of the deep end a long time ago much time before it became public, as usual too..  but they could not hide it forever..

Are Stephen Harper and Peter MacKay in reality now even alcoholics, liberal evangelicals who do consume wines, and offer it to others, and do they distribute porn now as well to others?
 
Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments.. and what about Harper, Mackay?
 
But in Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Especaily in Politics where a bad Conservative is just as bad as a bad Liberal.
 
Those who read my posts will note that I have often said both adultery (or  porn-lusts)  and alcoholism are the unacceptable too common sins of too many evangelical- Pentecostal  pastors.. even our Canadian premiers, prime ministers now too.. who all are supposed to be exemplary, abstainers too..  http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/why-canadas-prime-minister-stephen-harper-keeps-his-religion-secret/

All of these are aggressive, provoking, one sided questions  are what  some people want to know about you in terms of the upcoming election

1. Do you believe in the anti-Christ?
2. Do you believe we’re living in the end times?
3. Do you believe that Jesus will return in your lifetime?
4. Do you believe that true Christians have to battle Satanic agents in the End Times?
5. Do you see yourself as a warrior for Christ as part of a new Apostolic movement?

God’s Word provides us with all the purpose and direction that we could ever need. God also gives us something more to be able to live the Christian life, he also gives us the anointing of the Holy Spirit,. The bad churches deny both, the bad Anglican churches included. Bad pastors, bad elders also bad churches even professing Christina, evangelical churches such as the Christian Missionary Alliance, Dispensational Brethren ones, others too, use the   “BAIT AND SWITCH” approach.. the next falsely deviate from the Bible’s teaching.. (Isa 2:22 KJV)  Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?

(Isa 65:2 KJV)  I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; .. 5   Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. 6 KJV)  Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom,

Evangelical Snobbery  By Aiden Wilson Tozer

 WE ARE A BAD LOT, WE SONS OF ADAM. One convincing proof of our inherent badness is the way we manage to turn good into evil and make our very blessings a curse to us.  Indeed I think a strong case can be made for the belief that sin is merely righteousness in reverse and evil but perverted good.  Sin is at bottom the abuse of things in themselves innocent, an illegitimate use of legitimate gifts.

We Christians are cut from the same bolt as the rest of mankind, and while we have been made partakers of a new nature we have not yet been entirely divested of the old.  For this reason we are under constant temptation to lapse into the flesh and manifest the old nature rather than the new.  I know the arguments against this, but they have never seemed very convincing to me, especially when those who advance them are as likely as not to reveal pretty plain evidences of the old nature before the argument is ended.

Because we are so very human there is real danger that we may inadvertently do the human thing and turn our blessings upside down.  Unless we watch and pray in dead earnest we may turn our good into evil and make the grace of God a trap instead of a benefit.

Among the purest gifts we have received from God is truth.  Another gift almost as precious, and without which the first would be meaningless, is our ability to grasp truth and appreciate it.  For these priceless treasures we should be profoundly grateful; for them our thanks should rise to the Giver of all good gifts throughout the day and in the night seasons.  And because these and all other blessings flow to us by grace without merit or worth on our part, we should be very humble and watch with care lest such undeserved favors, if unappreciated, be taken from us.

Men are notoriously lacking in gratitude. Bible history reveals that Israel often took God’s gifts too casually and so turned their blessings into a curse.  This human fault appears also in the New Testament, and the activities of Christians through the centuries show that as Christ was followed by Satan in the wilderness so truth is often accompanied by a strong temptation to pride.  The very truth that makes men free may be and often is fashioned into chains to keep them in bondage.  And never forget it: there is no pride so insidious and yet so powerful as the pride of orthodoxy.

Snobbery is the child of pride.  Pride at first may be eager and ambitious as it tries to make a place for itself or to prove that it has already attained that place.  Later it loses its eager quality and becomes defensive.  Finally it ceases to struggle or defend and accepts its own image of itself as something too well established for discussion and too beautiful to improve.  When it reaches that stage it has produced a snob, and no snob is ever aware that he is one.

The snob whose claim to superiority is her material possessions is a comical figure, but because she is so pathetic she may with some effort be tolerated.  The snob whose glory lies in her ancestors is less easy to endure, but she may be dismissed with the remark that since all she has to be proud of is her forebears the best part of her is under ground. But what shall we say of the intellectual snob? He is unbearable, a man difficult to love and impossible to like.  A new school of evangelical Christianity has come up of late which appears to me to be in grave danger of producing a prime crop of intellectual snobs.  The disciples of this school are orthodox in creed, if by that we mean that they hold the fundamental tenets of the historic faith; but right there the similarity of their school to New Testament Christianity ends.  Their spirit is quite other than the spirit of the early church.

This new breed of Christian may be identified by certain field marks.  One is the habit of puffing out the chest and uttering a noise that sounds suspiciously like crowing.  Another is the habit of nesting so high that ordinary Christians have difficulty in locating the aerie, and when they do they are unable to climb to it.  Then, the song is also quite noticeable in that it consists almost wholly of imitations.  Rarely does one of them manage to give forth an original note, but each one waits to hear what Barth or Brunner or Bultmann or Tillich has to say and then imitates it as nearly as possible, only transposing it into the orthodox key.  Their mating call is a shrill “Me too! Me too!” which may be heard any time between September and June ringing through the halls of various institutions of evangelical higher learning.

What is overlooked by this new school is that truth is not mental only but moral.  The Apostles’ Creed quoted in pride, though true, is not true for the one who thus quotes it; one indispensable quality is missing—humility.  A theological fact becomes a spiritual truth only when it is received by a humble mind.  The proud mind, however orthodox, can never know spiritual truth.  Light means nothing to a blind man.

In the Christian life we know most when we know that we do not know, and we understand best when we know that we understand little and that there is much that we will never understand.  In the Scriptures knowledge is a kind of experience and wisdom has a moral content.  Knowledge without humility is vanity.  The religious snob is devoid of truth. Snobbery and truth are irreconcilable.

The Alliance Witness, vol. 97, no. 24, p. 2, Nov. 28, 1962.

  

Sadly yes too many evangelicals, pastors included  are not known for playing nice, accepting the truth easily, they like to play dirty, bash, bully, abuse others, make unrelated personal smears, attacks.. showing more clearly to all what they still really are like.. undeniable bad guys.
    
Never the less  the Holy Spirit  he will still also reprove the world of sin, judgment, righteousness.. and not be an Ostrich to their sins, wrong doings
    
I also do not think much of control freaks, bullies too  and do   see also my many posts on how to deal with control freaks.. abusers.. for example
 

 

Sadly yes too many evangelicals, pastors included  are not known for playing nice, accepting the truth easily, they like to play dirty, bash, bully, abuse others, make unrelated personal smears, attacks.. showing more clearly to all what they still really are like.. undeniable bad guys.
    
Never the less  the Holy Spirit  he will still also reprove the world of sin, judgment, righteousness.. and not be an Ostrich to their sins, wrong doings
    
I also do not think much of control freaks, bullies too  and do   see also my many posts on how to deal with control freaks.. abusers.. for example
do see also

 

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/being-ignorant-and-showing-a-false-hatred-towards-the-truth/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/77/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/  
http://pbulow.tripod.com/tradition.html   
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com
http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST 
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/
 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/  
 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/   
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/77 /
 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/   
http://thenoncomformer.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!1AA26630DCCDE52D!571.entry
http://groups.msn.com/CanadaToday6/stephenharperschurch.msnw  

 

Sin and repentance

 

Sin and repentance, the rarely used words today…

 
One thing is obvious, most people when they think of sin, it is something bad that someone else does and not anything they do themselves for a start
 
Sin is disobedience to God’s commandments, either by doing what is forbidden or failing to do what is required. (See the Ten Commandments , the Greatest Commandments of Jesus, Mark 7:20-23, Galatians 5:19-26). In the Bible, sin is a serious evil that disrupts our relationship with God (Matthew 5:29-30, Mark 9:42-48, Romans 8:7-8, Romans 6:23).
Sin: Literally, a missing of the mark, according to the Hebrew and Greek Bible texts. God himself sets the “mark” that his intelligent creatures are to reach. Missing that mark is sin, which is also unrighteousness, or lawlessness. (Rom. 3:23; 1 John 5:17; 3:4) Sin is anything not in harmony with God’s personality, standards, ways, and will, all of which are holy. It may involve wrong conduct, failure to do what should be done, ungodly speech, unclean thoughts, or desires or motives that are selfish. The Bible differentiates between inherited sin and willful sin, between an act of sin over which a person is repentant and the practice of sin.

Consequences of sin

All human misery, e.g. death, disease, fear, pain, and suffering, is ultimately rooted in sin. Sin increases the gap separating mankind from God. On the way toward a complete separation between mankind and God (which is an unavoidable consequence of sin) sinners become unrepentant and hard-hearted. Sin increasingly diminishes their strength to overcome. Ultimately the wages of sin is death (Romans 6: 23). Here a distinction must be made between physical death (i.e. the passing away of a human being) and spiritual death (i.e. complete separation between man and God).

Conditions of Forgiveness

Although God is always ready and willing to forgive us, He requires two things of us as conditions of forgiveness: repentance and forgiveness of others.

1) Repentance. Repentance means a sincere personal resolve to turn away from sin and toward God.

From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.” (NIV, Matthew 4:17)

If our sin has harmed another person, we should try to make amends for the wrong done (Luke 19:8-10). If we have tried to hide our sin, we should confess it (Matthew 3:1-6, Matthew 18:15-18, Acts 19:18, James 5:16-17). True repentance involves sorrow for acts of sin and leads to a fundamental change in attitude. We are not perfect and may fail in our attempt to avoid sin. In that case God is always willing for us to start over and make another attempt. However, if we ask for forgiveness with the intention of sinning again, we have not really repented.

Related verses: Matthew 3:2, Matthew 4:17, Mark 1:15, Mark 6:12, Luke 3:3, Luke 5:31-32, Luke 13:3-5, Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38, Acts 3:19, Acts 8:22, Acts 17:30-31, Acts 20:21, 2 Corinthians 7:10.

2) Forgiveness of others. Jesus said we must be willing to forgive people who sin against us:

If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins. (NLT, Matthew 6:14-15)

There should be no limit to our willingness to forgive others (Luke 17:3-4). We should have a forgiving spirit even if the offender does not repent and ask for forgiveness (Mark 11:25). We damage our relationship with God and harm ourselves if we stay angry or hold a grudge (Matthew 5:21-24).

Related verses: Matthew 18:21-22, Matthew 18:34-35, Ephesians 4:32.

Availability of Forgiveness

The good news is that, no matter how serious the sin, God is always seeking us out and is willing to forgive and forget our sins and give us a fresh start. As long as we live, it is never too late to ask for forgiveness and make a new start!

So Jesus used this illustration: “If you had one hundred sheep, and one of them strayed away and was lost in the wilderness, wouldn’t you leave the ninety-nine others to go and search for the lost one until you found it? And then you would joyfully carry it home on your shoulders. When you arrived, you would call together your friends and neighbors to rejoice with you because your lost sheep was found. In the same way, heaven will be happier over one lost sinner who returns to God than over ninety-nine others who are righteous and haven’t strayed away! (NLT, Luke 15:3-7)

When we have sinned, we can ask God for forgiveness, as in the Lord’s Prayer:

and forgive us our sins, just as we have forgiven those who have sinned against us. (TLB, Matthew 6:12)

Related verses: Psalms 25:7, Psalms 32:1-2, Isaiah 43:25, Matthew 1:21, Matthew 18:12-14, Matthew 26:28, Luke 15:11-32, Acts 10:43, Acts 13:38, Romans 4:7-8, Hebrews 10:17.

 

Does God differentiate really between major and minor sins? Do we have to repent of both? What does the Bible actually say about this too?
 
Neither the Old nor the New Testament presents an exhaustive “doctrine of sin” or a systematic and complete “list of sins”.

Human beings sin whenever they violate God’s declared will. By sinning they burden themselves with guilt before God.

-God Himself always establishes righteous conduct by revealing His will. Mankind is instructed to inquire into God’s will and to act accordingly.

 In assessing whether a deed is sinful or not, the only deciding factor is the divine will, as it is manifested in the Holy Scripture, and revealed in timely fashion by the Holy Spirit  

(cf. Exodus 20: 20). It is also sinful to break vows made to God (cf. Deuteronomy 23: 22), and not to believe in Christ (cf. John 16: 9). Covetousness, envy, and the like also constitute sin (cf. Galatians 5: 19-21; 1  Corinthians 6: 9-10; Ephesians 5: 5).

 Sin constitutes everything opposed to God’s will and contrary to God’s nature. Consequently sin is absolute.

-The Holy Scripture clearly defines sin as any violation of the Ten Commandments

-All deliberate thoughts, words, and deeds contrary to God’s will and nature are sinful. It is also sinful to deliberately neglect to do good (James 4: 17).

All persons are sinners also have to meet certain conditions in order to have their sins forgiven by God. These include:

– Faith in Jesus Christ

– Belief that the authority to forgive sins in the name of Jesus is vested in the apostolate. (The apostles have been given the authority to forgive sins in Jesus’ name, however the absolution pronounced by priestly ministers in the stead of the apostle has the same effect as if the apostle himself had pronounced ).

–   The realisation that they have sinned and are in need of grace

–  The heartfelt desire for reconciliation with God

–  Acknowledging their sins before God, as expressed in the supplication in the Lord’s Prayer: “… forgive us our debts…”

–  Remorse and repentance. This is associated with a desire to make good their  guilt towards other

–  The serious resolution to overcome faults and weaknesses

–   Willingness to forgive and be reconciled,

–  Grasping the absolution in faith

Keeping God’s word Continually  in our heart helps us to keep from sin, sinning, doing wrong

(Psa 119:9 KJV)  BETH. Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.

(Psa 119:11 KJV)  Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

(Psa 119:16 KJV)  I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.

(Psa 119:17 KJV)  GIMEL. Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word.

(Psa 119:25 KJV)  DALETH. My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to thy word.

(Psa 119:28 KJV)  My soul melteth for heaviness: strengthen thou me according unto thy word.

(Psa 119:38 KJV)  Stablish thy word unto thy servant, who is devoted to thy fear.

(Psa 119:41 KJV)  VAU. Let thy mercies come also unto me, O LORD, even thy salvation, according to thy word.

(Psa 119:42 KJV)  So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word.

(Psa 119:50 KJV)  This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me.

(Psa 119:58 KJV)  I entreated thy favour with my whole heart: be merciful unto me according to thy word.

(Psa 119:65 KJV)  TETH. Thou hast dealt well with thy servant, O LORD, according unto thy word.

(Psa 119:67 KJV)  Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

(Psa 119:74 KJV)  They that fear thee will be glad when they see me; because I have hoped in thy word.

(Psa 119:76 KJV)  Let, I pray thee, thy merciful kindness be for my comfort, according to thy word unto thy servant.

(Psa 119:81 KJV)  CAPH. My soul fainteth for thy salvation: but I hope in thy word.

(Psa 119:82 KJV)  Mine eyes fail for thy word, saying, When wilt thou comfort me?

(Psa 119:89 KJV)  LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

(Psa 119:101 KJV)  I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word.

(Psa 119:105 KJV)  NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

(Psa 119:107 KJV)  I am afflicted very much: quicken me, O LORD, according unto thy word.

(Psa 119:114 KJV)  Thou art my hiding place and my shield: I hope in thy word.

(Psa 119:116 KJV)  Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope.

(Psa 119:133 KJV)  Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me.

(Psa 119:140 KJV)  Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.

(Psa 119:147 KJV)  I prevented the dawning of the morning, and cried: I hoped in thy word.

(Psa 119:148 KJV)  Mine eyes prevent the night watches, that I might meditate in thy word.

(Psa 119:154 KJV)  Plead my cause, and deliver me: quicken me according to thy word.

(Psa 119:158 KJV)  I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.

(Psa 119:160 KJV)  Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

(Psa 119:161 KJV)  SCHIN. Princes have persecuted me without a cause: but my heart standeth in awe of thy word.

(Psa 119:162 KJV)  I rejoice at thy word, as one that findeth great spoil.

(Psa 119:169 KJV)  TAU. Let my cry come near before thee, O LORD: give me understanding according to thy word.

(Psa 119:170 KJV)  Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word.

(Psa 119:172 KJV)  My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

(Psa 138:2 KJV)  I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

(Jer 15:16 KJV)  Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

(Luke 5:5 KJV)  And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net.

(John 17:6 KJV)  I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

(John 17:14 KJV)  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

(John 17:17 KJV)  Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

(Acts 4:29 KJV)  And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

The Lord Jesus also described the failure to believe in Him as sin (John 16: 9). Death does not make a believer out of an unbeliever.

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Provincial governments in Canada are making record breaking profits by encouraging the citizens to consume even more  alcohol, beer and are making even  more even by the  taxation of these products. They should not be  encouraging the citizens to do so.
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Our Canadian Christian evangelical Prime Minister Stephen Harper makes an essential stop at the Irish Guinness brewery, he sure has fooled all those fundamental western Christians who voted from him cause they had been lied to that he was an Christian evangelical abstainer    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/canada-pm-arrives-in-dublin-ahead-of-g8-summit-1.1430527
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do see also
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 The supposed other big past big news over the past decade by the liberals was  that several high profile Christian advocates are winning Conservative nominations across the country. The Globe &  Mail had a rational analysis of the situation in an editorial. so what!
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Now  is difficult to understand the media fuss about Christian activists helping to secure the nominations of at least eight Canadian federal Conservative candidates in the next election. It is  no less  difficult not to understand why no one opposes the election of Alcoholics, or the use of Alcohol to try to secure votes.. but they will oppose the election of Christian persons, It is not difficult to understand why some newspapers would splash a headline on the topic across their front page, thereby starting the entire insanity in the first place.
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Now  let’s look at the problem with the current system. By signing up a group of people to pack a nomination meeting, the chances of nominating a candidate who the party and constituents do not want is dramatically increased.
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With the current political nominating system it’s very easy to trade votes for money, booze, or favours, and it becomes about stacking meetings rather than being the “best” candidate. And  during the leadership race, we saw blatant restrictions of membership forms. If you didn’t support a certain candidate  ,it was impossible to get a membership form from the party, and when you were granted one, it would often take months to get it, or it would be mailed to the wrong address. Since it’s all about being on the membership list and it’s pretty easy to keep people off the membership list, abuse is practically encouraged. So why not switch to the primary system? Every Canadian could register with a party or as a non-partisan on their income tax by checking a box.  Sure, you could still truck in your church members to vote so long as they’re registered to the party in question but with many more eligible voters, it would become a lot harder to take over a riding or win a nomination. With a wider range of people voting, it would presumably allow for candidates the general population prefers to be nominated. It would also become impossible to restrict membership forms, leaving leadership races more wide open and democratic… considering the bad press all parties get through nasty nomination battles and leadership races, it would be a solution everyone would benefit from. Don’t forget a recall system too.
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Now, here  the other laws On political abuse:
 
119. (1) Every one who(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a
member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, corruptly
(i) accepts or obtains,
(ii) agrees to accept, or
(iii) attempts to obtain,
any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment for himself or
another person in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted
by him in his official capacity, or
(b) gives or offers, corruptly, to a person mentioned in paragraph (a) any
money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of
anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by him in his official
capacity for himself or another person,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding fourteen years.
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Secondly  : Imagine that a Christian radio station from Alberta’s once Bible, belt, today’s devil belt, Red deer Alberta called me a liar and the same Ostrich, tried to shot me the messenger, he  had accused me of spreading hatred cause I said wine and alcoholic were served often at Conservative political events, as the news media has reported itself.. for them that cannot be true.. a professing Christian Stephen Harper cannot serve, drink alcoholic beverages.. but diverting the topic on me does not change the fact as to  whether he Harper serves alcohol to others and that  is still the critical issue.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/the-time-has-come-to-end-glamourising-alcohol-sponsorship/
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70 percent of Canadians drink alcohol, 15 percent Canadians are alcoholic, binge drinkers so of course alcohol is associated now with politics, politicians as well.. 
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Only “Tiny number of police officers part of large drinking and driving problem   Sun Nov 9, 12:03 PM   VANCOUVER, B.C. – The numbers are staggering.  Mothers Against Drunk Driving says 75,000 people are arrested annually in Canada for drinking and driving.  There are an additional 100,000 to 150,000 24-hour suspensions handed out each year by police, said MADD chief executive officer Andy Murie.  Sometimes the people who make those arrests, the front-line police officers who try to get the drunks off the road become – albeit rarely – part of the statistics.  “You might find 10 to 15 incidents a year involving police officers,” said Murie in a recent interview from his Oakville, Ont., office.  “The thing is that with the 10 to 15, because they are police officers and they get charged with a crime, it’s news.”  Often front-page news, most recently in British Columbia.  In recent weeks, the public learned that three B.C. police officers are facing drunk-driving charges – two members of the RCMP and a third from the New Westminster police department.  One of the off-duty RCMP members was arrested for drunk driving after a Jeep collided with a motorcycle, killing a 21-year-old man in Delta, B.C.  Other high-profile cases this year across the country include an Edmonton police officer facing one count of driving with a blood alcohol level above the legal limit and five counts each of impaired driving causing bodily harm and dangerous driving causing bodily harm.  In Saskatoon, a judge will decide the fate later this month of a senior member of the Saskatoon police service charged with impaired driving.  At his trial, two arresting officers testified that Insp. Al Stickney got behind the wheel after they observed him drunkenly staggering across the street.  “This year there’s been about 10 (arrests),” said Murie. “That’s pretty normal for a year.”  ..  the number of police officers caught drinking and driving is a tiny percentage of the total  ..   Benedikt Fischer, a criminologist at the faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University, said police officers are recruited “from the human race and despite the fact we expect so, human behaviour doesn’t stop on-or off-duty.”  Fischer also believes the number of police officers who drive drunk is probably higher than the arrest statistics indicate.  Being a cop is part of a “professional or police culture” dominated by machismo and camaraderie where police officers spend a lot of time socializing with each other, said Fischer, and often it involves alcohol.  “Drinking among police officers is often quite extensive and excessive, probably more so than in other professions,” he said.  When an RCMP member in B.C. is identified as having a drinking problem, he or she gets to know Dr. Ian MacDonald, the regional health services officer for RCMP in B.C.  After an assessment, they might be referred outside the force to an independent addiction specialist.  Whether it’s determined they have a drinking problem or not, all RCMP members arrested for drinking and driving come to MacDonald’s attention and must have an assessment.  MacDonald also thinks that MADD’s numbers are low and that the number of police officers arrested for drunk driving is higher than 10 to 15.  “That strikes me as low. If you look at B.C., we might have two or three charges a year. And if B.C. is 10 per cent of the population, that would be 20 to 30 across Canada.”  Mark Berber, a lecturer in psychiatry at the University of Toronto and an assistant professor at Queen’s University, is also skeptical of the MADD figures.  “It’s surprisingly low considering the stress these guys and gals are under.”  Studies, he said, have suggested that police officers have one of the most stressful jobs and “unfortunately a small number may seek to reduce their anxiety and stress by having a drink.”  He has counselled police officers in his private practice.  “They have spoken about seeking relief from stress and through medication and also drinking,” Berber said.  RCMP members who get caught drinking and driving, in addition to the court process, must endure an internal code of conduct investigation, said RCMP spokeswoman Const. Annie Linteau.  Members appear before an adjudication board and the result could be dismissal, she said. ”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081109/national/police_drunk_driving
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”  We only read/see about the few due to the police buddy system which will leave all but the most blatant of the cops drunk (ie involved in an accident) either being escorted home, or not even bothering to perform the breathe analysis. Do you really think the public is so stupid to believe that the police are held accountable to their partners? I have seen this first hand and know it for truth. So MADD get off your horse and see the facts for what they really are, police covering up for police”
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” I get the uncomfortable impression that there is a level of spin coming from MADD over this matter! If anything, I would have expected MADD to have taken a highly reproachful attitude toward anyone in this profession(as they do to anyone in any other profession) who CHOOSE to drink and drive. Yes, it makes the news if it’s a cop and so does any other citizen who kills someone while drunk at the wheel. “
” There is absolutely no excuse for anyone driving drunk,be they officers or not. We are all aware of the fact that it is illegal and should all be held to the same standard. As to lighter sentencing,police generally get booted off the force after conviction.  “
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 All alcoholics should be fired anywhere..
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Now in reality too often even a professing Christian Canadian Prime Minister Stepheh Harper buys alcohol for others to elicit their support. Will he  also give out playboy too now?
 
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international observations – Journal – Tories can’t hit $2.5 B …  27 Nov 2006 … Unacceptable. and next the PM Paul Martin will likely like Premier Ralph Klein try to say he is not an alcoholic, he like Premier Ralph … http://cnjournal.squarespace.com/journal/2006/11/27/tories-cant-hit-25-b-savings-target.html
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Online Encyclopedia and Dictionary – Ralph Klein An admitted alcoholic, Klein, under the influence, once verbally abused homeless people … This plan was quickly rejected by the government of Paul Martin. … www.fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/Ralph_Klein
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Western Standard Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde, Ralph Klein who still is not generally respected outside of … Paul Martin the PM is still too often associated with alcoholic beer, … http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006/03/image_and_polit.html
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My Blahg » I SEE DEAD BLOGSThe New Liberals- more Alcoholics at the taxpayer’s expenses too. Unacceptable. and next the PM Paul Martin will likely like Premier Ralph Klein try to say … http://myblahg.com/?p=448
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Canada_Today Another Ralph Klein – Unaccepable too. Klein who is guilty of living high on his … Fire all the drunks, alcoholics, tax payer money abusers firstly too. … http://groups.msn.com/canadatoday/klein.msnw
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Western Standard What was the true crime here — that a Friend Of Ralph Klein used a …. election capaign in Ontario the Liberal PM Paul Martin was promoting alcoholic wine, … http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006
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Canada Today 2 “(Prime Minister Paul) Martin has ignored these kinds of abuses under his watch …. And is the Paul Martin the PM himself now an alcoholic, who encourages …
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 (Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20   Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21   Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Col 3:5 KJV)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:6   For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
 
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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper « Posted at wordpress.com Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Federal Conservative Party of Canada ….. Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, …
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/canadas-prime-minister-stephen-harper/  
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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper « The non conformer’s … Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper … Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages. The liars and the demons of course will say …
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/canadas-prime-mister-stephen-harper/
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The Walrus » Stephen Harper and the Theo-cons » Canada Religion … 27 Sep 2008 … http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/why-canadas-prime-minister-stephen– harper-keeps-his-religion-secret/ August 30, 2008 04:36 EST …
www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2008.10-stephen-harper-and-the-theocons/
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Why Stephen Harper keeps his evangelical faith very private – The … Prime Minister Stephen Harper is damned if he does talk about his evangelical beliefs ….. Does he Harper have his alcohol-drinking buddies now still too? …

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/why-canadas-prime-minister-stephen-harper-keeps-his-religion-secret/  

 
 
 
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A charismatic leader is someone who really cares about the good welfare of all the people in Canada equally, French or English, easterner or westerner, or whatever, and not another pretender, Christian imposter, Alcoholic, liars, self centered, greedy persons that we seem to too often have instead..
 
so don’t be stupid NOW again,
and don’t select a Liberal leader who
– is a pretender Christian,
– a liar,
– an alcoholic,
– or one who cannot speak english, never mind read it.
but note above all it has to be one only from Quebec..

TRUDEAU’S SON Justine IS TOO YOUNG, and INEXPERIENCED STILL.
for without the support of the Quebec voters, without a PM from Quebec, you next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding out.. again and again!
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PS anyone who is naive to say that professing Christians do not drink alcohol, get drunk just should read all the letters I often do get from professing Christian pastors acknowledging they drink wine, alcohol and trying to justify it..
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According to the pastor Harper was a good christian. The  hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of New Life Beginings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly today now  for us not to have anything to do with a person who drinks wine, and to stand up against all people who do any wrong, to openly speak to them, and lies and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him..  I thus told him Harper drinks beer.. but since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refuses to talk with me  and  says I am tired now, I refuse to hear any of that, I refuse to believe any of that, that is all gossip,  slanders, and we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for their false professing Christian love, brotherly love, their openness now, free speech too.. The same pastor says he does not believe anything the news media writes at all. So who does he believe? only himself it seems.
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For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/

The really Bad Alliance , Evangelical churches..

Chrsitian and Missionary Alliance still in the church snatching business

September 23rd, 2008 LAIGLESFORUM Posted in Christian |

Jesus said we should be gentle as doves and wise as serpents. Christians are doing a horrible job of being wise, at variance with this solemn commandment.

We need to be aware that the emergent church movement is completely out of keeping with biblical principles and is ungodly. This is why we have liberal mega-churches gobbling up small defenseless churches that are still true to the gospel of Jesus. I have warned elsewhere that almost all denominations, including those purporting to be “conservative,” are part of this emergent church movement and are slowly taking over the true church. We are thus returning to the situation in the Europe that we escaped from to avoid persecution — where the State church demanded allegiance to it. We are on our way to a state church here in America. Beware! It will be the end of religious freedom and the beginning of tyranny right here under our noses.

Donald Hank

September 22, 2008

Christian & Missionary Alliance Leader Named in Fraud & Extortion Scheme

District Superintendent Wayne Spriggs Seizes Reedsville Bank Account and Church Property

On the heels of the C&MA Headquarters being sued for stealing $18,000 bank account and $650,000 church property of a Chinese church in Colorado Springs, and more recently a Vietnamese Boat People Church, in Long Beach California, the Eastern Pennsylvania District of the C&MA as now hijacked another church.  This time in Reedsville, Pennsylvania, spearheaded by Wayne Spriggs, District Director, who has a history of threatening people.

The Summary Letter by former C&MA Credentialed Pastor Bob Iddings, Reedsville Christian & MIssionary Alliance Church, Reedsville, Pennsylvania:

“SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOF TOP”

But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand. (Eze 33:6 AV)
 
The Christian and Missionary Alliance has seized another church, its parsonage and its bank account, this time by the hands of Wayne Spriggs, District Superintendent of the Eastern Pennsylvania District of the Christian and Missionary Alliance and its District Executive Committee (DEXCOM). 
 
A disgruntled adherent from our church who was displeased when she did not get her way, called our District Superintendent, Wayne Spriggs, and insisted on a congregational meeting in an attempt to have me removed from the church and “to ruin me”.  Although a congregational meeting was not held, what was to follow was a nightmare for our church adherents and myself.
 
It was a known fact by our District Superintendent that another church in our community who was currently renting space was interested in our church property, which we feel was at the root of what was to ensue, as Wayne Spriggs is attempting to close many of our small churches to acquire money to fund start up of new mega/emergent churches which he believes is the direction our churches should be going.  He is opposed to the small churches and feels that they lack the ability and resources to evangelize.
 
Wayne Spriggs knowing that I am a man who stands for what he believes, forced my hand by demanding certain requirements to be met by myself and my church people or face closure of the church. He knew we would not agree to his terms, thus forcing my resignation.  However, he did not allow us the time we asked for to prepare for closure, but came to our church one Sunday evening with the news the church would be closed, and the next day came and confiscated all financial records and immediately went to the bank and withdrew all the churches funds.  Although the church was slated to close in two weeks, there was never another service held at the church and the church adherents were not notified, only to come to the church the following Sunday to find a sign on the door that there would be no services for the next two weeks. 
 
During this time, Wayne made accusations of misconduct on my part to have DEXCOM issue a decree that I was forbidden to attend prayer conference scheduled during the same week he closed the church.  This was done in an attempt to keep other churches and pastors from knowing what had happened.  During the months that followed, Wayne refused to allow me to attend meetings held by DECOM and LO&CC concerning my situation and when I was asked to meetings with a few of his hand chosen representatives, I was not permitted to bring anyone with me as a witness and I was denied written copies of minutes of those meetings.  In addition, when I was cleared of all charges, Wayne immediately had LO&CC suspend my license for failure to follow through with his demands without following proper procedures set forth by the constitution of the C&MA.  Although I had challenged him on several occasions concerning his mishandling of the proper procedures to be followed, he chose to disregard my concerns and proceeded forward with his erroneous handling of the situation.  I later appealed this to our National Office who found that proper procedures were not followed and asked that he reinstate my license, which he refused to do until I wrote a letter resigning my credentials with the C&MA.                    
 
During this entire ordeal, our family was going through a crisis with our daughter who was facing surgery the day after we were told the church would close for possible iliac cancer.  Wayne showed no compassion for our situation, nor did he or anyone from the district ever inquire about my daughter’s condition or situation.  His only concern was that we be out of the parsonage by May 31st, of which he reminded us on several occasions.  He lacked any concern for the fact that we had no job, no income and limited time to find housing due to our family crisis.
 
The Christian and Missionary Alliance is no longer true to the scriptural principles on which it was founded.  They are embracing the emergent church movement and will not hesitate to enforce their reversionary clauses and liquidate any churches assets or confiscate funds in order to move forward with their new agenda and fund these new churches.  Let this serve as a warning, your church could be next!!!    Robert Iddings, former Christian & Missionary Alliance pastor

This hostile takeover by the C&MA is nothing new, but in fact, follows a well published pattern of devouring their own brothers in Christ.  Here are two recent pending cases:  The C&MA’s seizure of the C&MA Chinese church story entitled: ”Suing for Reconciliation” is available in Christianity Today Magazine [See: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/june/3.16.html]  and the Colorado Springs Gazette: “Congregation Suing District after its Home is Sold”  [see: http://www.gazette.com/articles/congregation_38941___article.html/district_home.html].  Also read the comments on that article.  Here is one of oft recommend posts by Rocksalt [see other posts too]:
“My highest commendation to Gazette Reporter Marc Barna..his story was NO SPIN…very balanced! I wrote three documentaries on the C&MA. The truth about what the C&MA did is even more sinister and evil than the article reflects. The account by the Chinese members is correct. A public relations nightmare for the C&MA either way the court case goes. One clarification re The “Reversion Clause” is that “accredited”, though it makes it much easier to hijack the church then when it is merely “affiliated”, it is not license, due process, and the absence of fraud and arbitrariness must prevail in exercising the reversion clause…even the C&MA Constitution states this. For a complete report on the C&MA’s seizure of the Chinese church and the more recent seizure of another ethnic church and its even larger bank account by the C&MA which was a Vietnamese Boat People church in Long Beach, California, and the investigation of C&MA VIce President John Soper, contact rock.salt@verizon.net”

The Vietnamese hostile takeover story will be in an upcoming issue of District Weekly in Long Beach, California.

Full report of Christian & Missionary Alliance denomination hijacking of Reedsville Christian and Missionary Alliance Church is available at:

http://www.purposedrivel.com/2008/09/c-seizing-churchesassets-of-faithful.html

 http://laiglesforum.com/2008/09/23/chrsitian-and-missionary-alliance-still-in-the-church-snatching-business/

http://laiglesforum.com/2008/09/22/the-evangelical-church-becoming-corrupt-culturally-irrelevant/

Note this is the denominational church of Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper,  and if this is what his church now is like, what is he realy like himself?

 Sadly for many years I have had nothing bad bad experience with 4 of the Canadian Christian Missionary Alliance churches, and they had lied to me, abused me.. undeniable facts I have detailed to all the Canadian members of Parliament, and to the major Canadian News editors, and posted it on the net.. this was a church composed mostly of liars, thieves, imposters and pretenders in my witness… it is not real a Real Christian Church for sure.

  Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/prime-minister-stephen-harper-and-the-federal-conservative-party-of-canada/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/prime-minister-sets-our-watchdogs-on-the-press/

Why you should believe in the Bible?

 

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It will lead you you God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit too.

The Bible is an essential part of the Christian faith. Christians hold it in varying degrees to be the Word of God. To me this means that every word was inspired by God in its original and that on any one point God speaks what we should know through the whole Bible.

Any systematic teaching of Christian Doctrine will begin by establishing the centrality of the Bible to a true knowledge of God and his will.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (English Standard Version)

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.”

But knowing the facts and teachings of the Bible do not make a Christian.

John 3:16 (English Standard Version)

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.”

Knowledge about God does not mean we know God. But if we know God, Christians believe you can only gain knowledge about him through the Christian Bible. At each stage of its writing the Bible was complete and now with the completion of the Christian Bible, it contains everything we need to know about God for salvation. Essentially what everyone needs to know is that in Christ crucified we are saved. This is experienced through the working of God the Holy Spirit. Without the Bible telling us, we could not know this and realise it in our lives. Without the Bible we could not understand why we need to be saved, the nature of God or his means of grace.

This knowledge has been gained through the writings of ordinary men in their work-a-day languages through poetry, epics, prose, letters and proverbs. God chose each word and phrase of some forty authors’ writings to reveal himself to us.

Each of the sixty six books that makes up the Bible, written over 1500 years, needs interpreting for our understanding. The ordinary languages they were written in are for the most part dead. There is little doubt about the authenticity of the text and it is generally accepted that the text being translated is close to, if not identical to, the original. The job of the translator is to communicate the meaning of the text. This is done by word for word translations or by attempting to bring out the intended meaning through contemporary phrases and idioms. The whole process is open to scrutiny and criticism and certainly in English we have a wealth of translations.

Aside from the original writing of the books, there was no supernatural moment when the Bible was brought together; no blinding flash. Christians believe that the Bible is as it exists today, according to the tradition of the church though the content is certainly not there because of tradition. Tradition is wholly different in the understanding of the church, being its creeds, doctrines and, to some extent, liturgy and structures.

The books of the Christian Bible are complete, attested to and agreed by all Christian churches. Some churches have apocryphal texts but do not believe these to have authority. In fact, the canon of scripture seems to be one of the few areas of tradition where Christians have unity! The New Testament scriptures we have are the same as those of Irenaeus, a 2nd century bishop of Smyrna, whose boy hood mentor was Polycarp, a friend of the John of the Gospels. The New Testament canon (list of books) was set out by Athanasius in his Easter letter of 367 and included all the books from Hebrews to Revelation which had been a matter of regional variation from the 2nd century. Apart from faith, Christians can be secure in believing the scriptures we have to be reliable and trustworthy. That is not to say there are no problems with the text but Christians believe they can be resolved through study and that in no way will the integrity of the scriptures be undermined.

The world view contained in the Bible is that God created the universe; the Earth is special and men and women were created to live on it for God’s good pleasure. Through the sin of the first man called Adam, sin entered the whole of creation. What was created to be good is now subject to futility and death. It is hard to grasp, but everyone has a sense of this futility and feels the wrath God, but we can only know why through the Bible. The God of the Bible is just and merciful which again we could only know from the Bible. By nature we stand against him and our choice separates us from him eternally. Through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross the way back to God is open to all. By God’s sovereign work our eyes are opened to this and we receive a new nature which chooses to follow him. Jesus is shown to be God the Son who restores us and sets us apart for God’s pleasure eternally. The Bible teaches this and reveals that it is not by a work of our own effort, an effort to do better or study harder, but a supernatural work of his grace. At no point does the Bible allow that we are saved by our own effort.

The Bible in its writings teaches its own centrality to this world view and its authority to do so, but also its own inefficacy to save us. Jesus, speaking to a Scripture teacher of his time, says,

John 5:37-40 (English Standard Version)

And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen, and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe the one whom he has sent. You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.”

which is a word for word translation or, if you prefer a near contemporary version,

John 5:37-40 (The Message)

“But my purpose is not to get your vote, and not to appeal to mere human testimony. I’m speaking to you this way so that you will be saved. John was a torch, blazing and bright, and you were glad enough to dance for an hour or so in his bright light. But the witness that really confirms me far exceeds John’s witness. It’s the work the Father gave me to complete. These very tasks, as I go about completing them, confirm that the Father, in fact, sent me. The Father who sent me, confirmed me. And you missed it. You never heard his voice, you never saw his appearance. There is nothing left in your memory of his Message because you do not take his Messenger seriously.

“You have your heads in your Bibles constantly because you think you’ll find eternal life there. But you miss the forest for the trees. These Scriptures are all about me! And here I am, standing right before you, and you aren’t willing to receive from me the life you say you want.”

This is God’s grace as nothing can separate us from God’s love which is given to us by the Father, through Jesus and the action of the Holy Spirit. In this the Bible speaks to us and presents the foundations of his truth which is why it is an essential book for our times and central to the Christian faith.

 

Why you should believe in the Bible, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit too
Well Jesus had said without me you can do nothing  (John 15:5 KJV)  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.7   If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
and he Jesus will also give you the Holy spirit to equip you and to guide you into all truth. (John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
(John 16:7 KJV)  Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
for without Jesus and the Holy Spirit you still cannot understand the Bible anyway..

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an apostle facing the reality of being a castaway…
 
 Sadly there is also an intellectual acceptance of the faith, even  of Jesus Christ himself, but this is not the same now as accepting Jesus Christ as Lord.. believe on the lord Jesus Christ and you will be save.. I have often had business partner, friends, who supported the gospel, going to church, and yet refused to make a full personal commitment to  God. Next when I had prayed about it to God he replied.. they have seen the kingdom from afar, but they are not going to go into.. so close and yet so far away still.
 
(Luke 14:31 KJV)  Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32  Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
 
Contrary to the devil’s and lawyers lies, only the lawyer’s and the courts are those persons who tend to get richer, profit generally from a divorce. On top of that Divorce persons tend to have a shorter life span, and a shorter life as well compared to the others.
A spouses also tends not to file for divorce unless certain conditions are met..
 
– The think they can get richer by a divorce.. but 2 can live cheaper than one..
– They have a substitute mate in mind, whom they should have consulted first, cause often they have no intention ever of marrying them too..
– The have the false support of their family, mother generally, brother and sister. Even often a false pastor, a false church now too.
– They have adequate cash at hand to pay for the initially lawyer’s fees. you would be surprised how many spouses still keep a hidden bank account from the other spouse, eventually the other spouse finds out and this causes really deep bitterness, anger, resentment, even unforgiveness too.
 
There’s no doubt there are abusive spouses, male and females.. but often one spouses provokes the other one into an abusive knowing  beforehand as well..
 
there are no real winners in broken home, a broken marriage generally now still too.”
 
Some Professing Christian persons  have been contemplating and discussing what the proper attitude and conduct should be among Christians towards things like oppressed workers in China and things of that sort . Issues that pits left versus right, even!
 
The first essential Social action firstly as defined by the New Testament Books of acts in the appointment of deacons was, and still is the helping the poor and needy persons in the local Church. This was also true even in the old testament where 1/7 of the tithe was given to the local poor persons.
 
(Acts 6:1 KJV)  And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

>>There is only one ‘expert’ on church planting and that’s the Lord, and Zech. 4:6 warns us that it is not by might or power (and not by man’s wisdom- 1 Cor. chaps. 1-2). God told us to start a church in August of 2003 with no funds, no supporting churches, etc.- i.e., nothing other than God’s leading. A missionary and experienced administrator talked with us, and told us we were violating ‘every rule in the book’ and that we were headed to be another one of the failed plants in our area (of which there have been many). We obeyed, and God blessed, and here we are as Calvary Chapel Space Coast ready to send our first full time missionary, and start another church campus. All by God’s grace, and all for His glory!

I ran a home church for about 2 dozen poor persons for years, and I fed them every week freely too, and I never asked ANYONE FOR MONEY, never took one offering too, God supplied all I needed too.

Secondly a true Christian Ministry starts as as a Faith Ministry, trusting in God to supply all of the needs and not rather being weak in the faith, starting a tax exempt and a marketing Corporation, even  selling Books, tapes, video and  things, begging, begging,  begging OTHERS FOR MONEY.. with posts like like this.. ” I have incorporated as a nonprofit under the name “Athanatos Christian Ministries, Inc.”  This is a pretty hefty step for me.  It takes what has been a full time hobby and gives it legs to maybe be a full time full time endeavor into the future.  Ultimately, the goal is for ACM to be self-sufficient, paying for itself off of book sales and products sold to churches, etc.  At this time, however, donations are helpful.  If that is of interests you, you may use the Paypal/credit card link on the ACM web page. I will still operate under the name of Sntjohnny especially in regards to my apologetics to nonChristians, etc. “
 
Some people who donate the money  also do try to influence what can and cannot be preached too and do tie the hands of God here.
 
“I rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church  now trying to make any money from  the gospel, or begging, asking for money or even  any of the adds here.  I also do not endorse any of  Bibles, books, tapes listed here for sale too. Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should have the faith for God to supply what anyone needs  freely to anyone who needs it.  “Rev George Muellar did.”Note This site solicits no funds, or donations, or money what so ever.. ( nor does it sell any Christian supposedly literature, media) and it has no political, denominational affiliations, aspirations. Do use and Distribute all this material freely. http://pbulow.tripod.com/
  
The proper Christian Example- “No More Rich Seat/Poor Seat .  George became the pastor of a small church in England. The church wanted to pay him a good salary from the money it received renting pews to rich church members who sat at the front of the church. (Poor members had to sit in the “cheap” seats in the back.) George told them that this had to stop if they wanted him to be their pastor. Even so, he did not allow the church to pay him a salary. He trusted God to meet his needs, and God did. George and his family never missed a meal and were always able to pay their rent. George began to sense, however, that God had something else for him to do.Praying Food into the Home.   Each day as George walked the streets, he saw children everywhere who had no mom or dad. They lived on the streets or in state-run poorhouses, where they were treated badly. George felt God calling him to open an orphanage to take care of the children.  George prayed, asking God to provide a building, people to oversee it, furniture, and money for food and clothing. God answered his prayers. The needs of the orphanage were met each day. Sometimes a wealthy person would send a large amount of money, or a child would give a small amount received as a gift or for doing chores. Many times food, supplies or money came at the last minute, but God always provided without George telling anyone about his needs. He just prayed and waited on God..  More than 10,000 children lived in the orphanage over the years. When each child became old enough to live on his own, George would pray with him and put a Bible in his right hand and a coin in his left. He explained to the young person that if he held onto what was in his right hand, God would always make sure there was something in his left hand as well.

 
More Bible verses Wallpapers sites.

Do you see any similarities between George Mueller’s and the Apostle Paul’s decisions to follow Jesus? How did George change after he became a follower of Jesus?

  1. What did Mueller mean when he told the orphans to “hold onto the Bible in your right hand”?
  2. Describe a time when God has answered your prayers and provided for you or your family.
  3. 4: Do you live by faith in God, to provide your needs, or do you rely on others, your job, your own efforts still? “

(  Ironically many of his present supporters beg for money, sell his Books also  to make money, instead of praying.) http://chi.gospelcom.net/kids/glimpsesforkids/gfk008_2.php

 

 

“HOW TO ASCERTAIN THE WILL OF GOD
  • 1. I seek at the beginning to get my heart into such a state that it has no will of its own in regard to a given matter. Nine-tenths of the trouble with people generally is just here. Nine-tenths of the difficulties are overcome when our hearts are ready to do the LORD’s will, whatever it may be. When one is truly in this state, it is usually but a little way to the knowledge of what His will is.
  • 2. Having done this, I do not leave the result to feeling or simple impression. If so, I make myself liable to great delusions.
  • 3. I seek the Will of the Spirit of God through, or in connection with, the Word of God. The Spirit and the Word must be combined. If I look to the Spirit alone without the Word, I lay myself open to great delusions also. If the Holy Ghost guides us at all, He will do it according to the Scriptures and never contrary to them.”
George Mueller 1805-1898  –from the classic biography of George Mueller, “George Müller of Bristol,” —New Window by A. T. Pierson —New Window, Appendix N: “The Wise Sayings of George Mueller“ —New Window
 

 

For the great  Bible versed Wallpapers, helps
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a 36 per cent increase

Canada, Alberta, Calgary’s Homeless population jumps beyond 4,000

More families also do now need help:   July 16, 2008 in the city that was supposedly the home of rich people, millionaires now too

Calgary’s homeless numbers are growing significantly faster than the city’s general population, leaping 18 per cent since 2006 according to this year’s count.

As of May 14 there were 4,060 homeless Calgarians, up from 3,436 in 2006.

Local Officials say the cannot. or refuse cannot explain it, but the rate of homeless families jumped dramatically, rising to 197 from 145 in 2006 — a 36 per cent increase.

These figures are just the tip of the massive iceberg of the high cost of living in Calgary, and the actual low paying jobs mostly available in Alberta for the average persons, excluding the executives, cit hall and governmental  ehh..

There are many other problems in this city not advertised, such as the extremely high rate of divorce too, all even as a result of past Conservative policies, denials  too.. too  many poor, homeless, suffering people have already left the province so now they are no longer included in the figures of the prior poor  and needy, suffering people..

It has been known for decades in Alberta that their free  food banks are one of the busiest places in Canada too.

Alberta’s Conservatives, evangelicals still do tend to still bash the poor people, for they  tend to live and practice in the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, everyman for himself.. all done yes in the home town of Canada’s professing Christian Missionary Alliance Prime Minister Stephen Harper now too.. the richest province in Canada cannot, or refuses to look adequately after it’s own poor people.. shame on them all.

“Low-wage jobs are plentiful, but Alberta does not have rent controls. . Many of Calgary’s homeless are employed — as many as 60 per cent staying at the Mustard Seed Street Ministry, said operations manager Floyd Perras.”

  But this spring, Metro Vancouver — which has at least twice Calgary’s population — released a preliminary number of 2,600 homeless, a 20 per cent increase from the count done in 2005.

History as usual repeats itself even in Alberta. Predicable, cyclic  Bust takes still Alberta by surprise  today ? “ There’s a tiny park in downtown Calgary that is a stark reminder of everything that went wrong in Alberta after the boom of the 1980s and seems to be happening all over again.  The park is right next to the Bank of Montreal’s 41-storey office tower. It was supposed to be the site of a second tower that was cancelled when the bank realized the boom was over and it wouldn’t need all those offices in Western Canada after all. Twenty years later, the price of oil and gas has nosedived again and major projects are about to be cancelled or capped.  Just last week, developers of what is slated to be the tallest building in Western Canada declared that they need $1.1 billion to keep the project going. There is already a square-block hole in the ground and a forest of girders and cranes on-site in the heart of downtown Calgary, but the future home of EnCana Corporation is desperately trying to arrange construction financing in a tight credit market.  Building permits on five other large projects are set to expire because of inactivity. In some cases, the city has had to seal empty construction pits because the developers have pulled the plug.  You would think that in a city, and a province, that has experienced more than a few booms and busts over the past 80 years some sort of common sense would have evolved about how to thrive over the long term in such an economy. But it seems both the private sector and the government are easily blinded by their wishful thinking: this boom will last forever and the money will keep rolling in, they keep telling themselves and everyone else. But it never does. So in the same week that the city’s largest construction project was revealed to be in trouble, the finance minister and the premier announced more bad news. The provincial treasury’s projected surplus for 2008-2009 dwindled from $8.5 billion to $2 billion because of declining oil and gas prices and will likely dwindle even further. Plans for new roads, schools and hospitals are now on hold.  Premier Ed Stelmach also revealed that he is deferring a new royalty regime – which was have to added more than $1.4 billion a year to provincial coffers – because it’s simply the wrong time to increase taxes and risk a further slowdown of the petroleum industry.  No doubt he wishes former premier Ralph Klein had increased royalties years ago when the industry was awash in profits. None of this would really matter if the provincial government had actually prepared for the bust during the boom by saving some of its billions of dollars in bounty.  But it didn’t. Instead it spent billions on infrastructure when the cost of labour and materials was skyrocketing; at one point it issued $400 cheques to every man, woman and child in Alberta, a $1.4 billion giveaway; and it cut taxes or kept them low. Alberta still has The Heritage Savings Trust Fund established by former premier Peter Lougheed but it is only worth $15.8 billion. Norway, by contrast, has managed to squirrel away $350 billion since 1991. Stephen Harper’s Conservatives have also managed to whittle away billion dollar surpluses. Perhaps they also thought the boom would last forever. Or perhaps all those Alberta Conservatives simply forgot about the famous bumper sticker from the 1980s that read: “Please God, let there be another oil boom. I promise not to piss it away this time.”  ” http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/541627   
 
So”  The Prime Minister’s Office says it’s imposing restrictions on the size of ministerial entourages on trips outside Ottawa.  PMO spokesman Kory Teneycke says the number of political aides allowed to travel with a minister will be limited to two. And he says the government is considering a plan to encourage public servants to fly economy class.  The measures come amid sky high travel bills that some Conservative cabinet ministers have piled up since the Tories came to power in 2006.

For example, The Toronto Star is reporting that last year, then environment minister John Baird billed the taxpayers $61,000 in airfares to attend a climate change conference in Indonesia.  The tab included flights for himself, three political aides and two federal officials. (The Canadian Press, ccg)

(Conservatives-CBC)  Opposition parties say the Harper government is softening up the public for cuts to the CBC.  With the crashing economy and recent revelations about CBC executive spending, Liberals and New Democrats argue the government has already started to make its case.  Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has mentioned the CBC’s $1 billion-dollar annual federal subsidy — and has floated the idea of selling federal assets to balance the budget.  Heritage Minister James Moore sent a letter warning CBC executives to curb their spending in light of “reported excess.”  In the House of Commons this week, a Conservative backbencher accused the public broadcaster of “irresponsible” spending habits.  NDP heritage critic Libby Davies says it all adds up to the government “laying the groundwork” for a whack at the CBC, a favourite Conservative whipping boy. (The Canadian Press, ccg)  

 

Dealing effectively with complaints, problems, bad service , ISP provider-

The company has also adopted rebranded its Bell ExpressVu, Sympatico and residential service in favour of Bell TV, Bell Internet and Bell Home Phone.
 
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Subject: Dealing effectively with complaints, problems, bad service , ISP provider-
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The Written Complaints are always an important way to identify areas of much needed improvement, and  they can lead to significant  improvements eventually.
 
You might be so dissatisfied with your phone company, ISP provider, or whatever? and next most persons will simply transfer their account  immediately  to another firm, another service provider entirely, but beware you may still have to deal with the penalty for breaking the contract,  and in reality such an approach does not do anything to alleviate or likely help the same problem that many other customers next will also have. If you help  to deal with it all now properly it may all take more  time but in the end it will generally, if done right, next  bring positive changes and great regards for  and from other now as well.
 
Some of the most common areas of complaints, difficulty are as follow:
  • Advertisements – for complaints about the truth, accuracy, ethics or legality of advertisements, as well as confusing or unclear labeling directions, contact the Minister of Consumer Affairs
  • Bills – for complaints about problems with your phone bill, or ISP in the first instance you should contact the telephone or ISP  service provider. If you are not satisfied with their response then contact not only the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman   but many others as well.. You might also want to contact the nearest office of your federal, state, provincial consumer affairs ministry now too..
  • Fixed Line or Mobile Phone Contracts – The actual contract that supplies you with a mobile or fixed line telephone is a trade agreement. These come under contract law and contracts are sometimes disputed as being either unfair or unfulfilled. In these cases, again you should firstly contact the organization with whom you signed the contract. If you are not satisfied with their response then again, contact the nearest office of the Department of Consumer affairs.
  • The Quality of the Telephone Service or ISP now . Again, in the first instance you should always take up any complaint regarding the quality of the telephone service with your service providers as well as to the others.
  • Radio and Television Program Content For radio or television broadcast program content (not advertising), the federal  Broadcasting Authority  is generally responsible for ensuring that programs ‘reflect community standards’. They all will  asks that you first make your complaint directly to the broadcaster concerned. They say that if a station fails to answer your written complaint within thirty days, or if you are otherwise still not happy with their response, you should then contact them,
How to Make an Effective Complaint –   General Rules
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The first simple, honest step is to contact the organization that you do have the problem with, and to tell them next preferably always  in writing next too, specially  that you want to make a complaint and you are also going to detail it in writing to them and to many others for further references now too.
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Before making the specific contact, – make sure you do now have a clear idea about exactly what you are going to ask them. tell them. Do generally take some detailed, specific notes and do have them in front of you so you don’t get distracted or next forget any part of the essential information you want to share with them too. If possible,  do also have a proposed resolution to your complaint that you would be fully happy with  and present this to them too. Assemble a pen first now, and all the information that might be necessary for you to refer to, in front of you, out it all  in writing on  a page even before you call, including the initial telephone number, account number and billing address and next also the subsequent references given to you. . If you are calling about a specify phone or ISP account, bill, try to make sure you have a reference copy of it in front of you. The more prepared you are for the first telephone call, the more likely  you will also need it when you have call back again later. Rarely does even phone call or one letter suffice. Do talk also to your friends, neighbors, and do also see if they had the same problem now too.
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You do try to phone them firm first and follow it up with a confirming letter next too.  Do Stay in control always without being interrupted or distracted by the others. State your case as calmly as possible, and note this do even repeat it to them especially  if they are not listening to you, or if they as usual falsely try to lie to you, try to divert the topics, your complaint now. However, you should always plan to make a telephone call when you are feeling in full control, time  to deal with the problem..
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Have a pen and paper ready in front of you. Take note always of the date and tie time you call, how long you waited before your call was answered, how long you had talked for  and the name of the person you spoke to. In the future it might be even helpful for you to monrtstily bill the same  firm for wasting your time in their not addressing the problem. That should get their notice now next  too and show how serious you are in getting the problems, conflict resolve in an adequate manner now still too.
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Remember always that when presenting  most complaints it takes  some time, prepare to be ready for the time to pass, but do know also as to how to handle the false delays. Send them always  next with a copy to others a reminder letter, email that you are waiting for an adequate response to your specific complaint for a start.

When any person  does  experience service or equipment problems, their resulting dissatisfactions,  complaints now can be  often even more compounded by them not being able to directly firstly to talk to or to deal with anyone that is really helpful about the problem, in a position of authority to do so now,  even firstly now without waiting for hours on the telephone for a firm’s initial or subsequent responses – note the delays sometimes this is a deliberate act by the firms to discourage you from initially now making the complaint. The reality  thus often still is that you may always need to wait a long while before your phone call is answered and if you can’t now really wait, your next numerous unsuccessful attempts also to speak with someone will ultimately not only  waste your time but will also increase your frustration.  Anger can be a common reaction the reality that the  service and equipment problems  that too often are not quickly and effectively solved, or one too often being cut off over and over again, or rather buck passed,  transferred to others again and again, or put on hold or the telephone phones are answered by electronically generated voice systems that lyingly promise to return your call now are also rightfully extremely annoying..
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A common false tactic  now used by too  many firms, municipalities, services is to try to cut you off  the phone or your post , by lyingly finding some excuse to deal with you even like saying that you are rude or what ever. Merely repeat to them calmly your specific request stating that you want to talk to someone that can effectively help you with your  specific complaints and can you be passed  to that person, manager? If at any time you feel you are becoming upset, cool down, and remind yourself why you are calling, what you are doing. Simply  using the free , holding time to write down  the basic complaints,  details even for their later use if nerd be. Ask for their name, the name of their managers, and their email now as well and tell them you intend to write about it, posting your complaint to others, on the net as well. If they cut you off, a normal course of action from the much too many  bad firms and their bad customer service departments these days too now, persist and get a proper mailing address still.
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Complaining by phone, or face to face  generally means there is no undeniable record of the event, even that it had now ever occurred, transpired. Some how many more persons next do tend to be responsive when the see the undeniable complaint in writing, but not always. Thus the Follow up letters are also generally essential. Do always  resort to writing letters with copies to the related managers, and your local elected representatives, news media so they too ALL  can be informed and ALL CAN act upon it.
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The problem also with using just the phone to deal with a complaint, is that there is no record of what really has happened especially when the outcomes now are too often mostly negative. Do still understand that there are much too many unrepentant, pretentious firms that hire too many liars to defy the complaints, truths. Even here your witnessed  public exposure will help to bring this out into the open, to light so others can deal with it effectively too. No one can deny your own personal witness if detailed in writing now too. The Pen is always mightier than the sword still too these days.
Appropriate disclosures to the right parties, the persons who have the power to make changes, executives, news media, elected officials, regulating bodies too  can work wonders next too.
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A good complaint letter will probably help you to get the best results quicker. A signed written complaint, with at least your full name, address and telephone number  is always  important, effective even on one made by e-mail. You should receive an adequate, serious  written response within a reasonable time period at the most within 30 days at the most if not sooner. It is always best to write a letter to the company outlining your concerns, an email is acceptable as long as you send copies of it to others. Do also  Request that they reply to your complaint in writing and keep their letter in case you need it in future.
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According to Ellen Phillips, author of Shocked, Appalled and Dismayed! How to Write Letters of Complaint, the most effective letters of complaint include some of these five key elements:
  1. Direct a copy of the the letter to the highest-ranking person in the organization as well and to the Consumer and Government Organizations as well:
  2. Construct a strong opening sentence even as to what you want, expect  from them, and do sate it to be done within a reasonable period of time too.
  3. Describe the problem complaint  concisely and factually including any steps you have already taken
  4. Clearly do also  Imply that the company will not only  lose your business but hat of many  others too for you will share it with them too. Tell them  that  you also now cannot be sued by anyone of posting or for telling the truth. That you also do welcome any subsequent threats of a lawsuit as it will being the whole matter into the open and give it more much  needed publicity too.
  5. Do Place all the responsibility for resolving  the complaints with the recipient and their related mangers even for their rightfully blame in their  failure to solve the problem you had rightfully addressed to them already too.
If the telephone or internet service provider does not solve your problem you could also contact one of the  relevant external complaint-handling agencies: If any of them now do not resolve your problem for you in a way that you are happy with, you can and often should take the process even a step further and all in writing now too, meanwhile also making the whole process publically posted on the internet, available to the news media and the local elected officials will also help to weed out the much too many pretentious pretentious bad   regulators as well. I have rightfully followed all this myself too now. The darkness tends to hate the light , being exposed to all.

YOUR RIGHT TO END THE CONTRACT WHEN IT CHANGES. When your contract with your mobile, internet, fixed-line or VoIP (net phone) service provider changes, often you will have a right to end the contract early without having to pay additional fees (eg cancellation or termination fees). Your original contract has been breached, changed if monthly access fees or call rates increase and also if download limits or free monthly call credits have been reduced. Firms that breach a contract can now also expect a penalty payment now to you as well for doing so. See also basic contract laws.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law/ http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/on-how-to-deal-with-it/ http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/hanging-up-on-early-exit-fees/

About contracts mer.vic.gov.au/CA256EB5000644CE/page/Shopping+Trading+%26+Pricing-Contracts-About+Contracts?OpenDocument&1=920-Shopping+Trading+%26+Pricing~&2=110-Contracts~&3=0-About+Contracts~

If for example you entered into a 24 month mobile phone contract and after say 2 months your call rates increased, you will have a right to cancel the contract and not have to pay a cancellation or early termination fee. If your service provider refuses to waive a cancellation/termination fee in these circumstances, you can contact the others

Taking the Problem next to an External complaints, regulating Agency can be really cumbersome, and also even take a long time, so contact the local news media first. You can Search the internet for the news media editors  contacts and your local elected officials now too.
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Public exposure and prosecuting of the major guilty, bad persons, firms, serves everyone’s best interest always too. Being now still nice to any of the bad guys is a total waste of time for they next still have no reasons to make any of the much needed positive changes.
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As a consumer, it is often still difficult to know where to go to resolve complaints,  disputes, especially if something you have bought goes wrong, the cost of going to court, the hassle,  it is often more than your purchase is worth but  now there is a much cheaper and often effective approach, use the internet, for all justice is not necessary better handle in the court of laws, and that approach is still full  public exposure.
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So how is the clearly unacceptable immoral Bell Sympatico now still handling all of my rightful 280 letter of  complaints to them, and when can I get proper responses from all of the parties concerned now too, even in the government? Or do I still have to write about it to all over and over again even on the net?
 
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, Corporations  who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress   you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware/

“It’s all to convince to convey that Bell is and has gotten better,” Bell Mobility president Wade Oosterman said in an interview.

But telecom analyst Carmi Levy of AR Communications said the changes will have little impact unless they are accompanied by a dramatic improvement to customer service.

“You can change your logo and you can change the name of your offering until the cows come home but if you don’t change the fundamental way that you operate, then the rebranding effort will be for not,” the Toronto-based analyst said in an interview.

He said Bell needs to be less adversarial and aggressive with customers and more responsive to their needs.

“This needs to be just the first salvo in an ongoing effort to become a softer friendlier company to deal with.”

New Bell chief executive George Cope has promised to improve customer service as it completely overhauls the vast business. The Montreal-based company recently announced plans to shed 15 per cent of management and sell non-core assets.

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/03/23/%e2%80%9ccanada%e2%80%99s-worst-cell-phone-bill%e2%80%9d/

No Hidden Agenda

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Don’t make the mistake thinking, believing that all of these supposedly professing Christian Internet  sites have no hidden agenda, or that they are fair, honest, and they do allow everyone to talk openly freely on the posted subject now too, or the rather too often the posted lies and distortions. Best way to catch a sucker is with live, good looking bait still too. For in reality too often the right of FREE SPEECH that right still that is not so for all of us. Not on the all of the  professing Christians sites now as well..
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Speaking of hidden agendas. And what are some common examples of them? Promotion of self? Promotion of pet theology? Basing others to make oneself feel better hopefully? Working for the devil? etc.,

“Pride and humility are two of the most basic distinguishing characteristics between the true and the false.” http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:mzLW88CKXgYJ:www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/5039+Elijah+list+Rick+Joyner

BUT FOR SURE YOU CAN FIRST  ADD TO THAT  “the real love of others” or rather too often it’s lack of thereof?

>>”I firmly believe that Latter Rainers like Wagner, Bentley, et al all subscribe to the idea that Christ will return in Spirit only which in essence denies his incarnation identifying them as antichrist.” http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/rick-joyner-the-apostle-paul-and-the-antichrist/

DO NOTE  HERE ABOVE WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THE AUTHOR  HAD FALSELY DESIGNATED HIS OPINION AS BEING THAT OF HIS OPPONENTS.. but the author did not mention if  he had contacted the person he was talking with firstly before as well, or of he had sent to him a copy of the DISSECTION now too? To be fair, and decent about it all too.

still such  unsubstantiated false presuppositions statement of his  now destroys any creditability he  may want us too believe he now has firstly too!!

Before anyone tries to bash  EVEN the Pentecostals still..

TELL ME HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN GOING TO A PENTECOSTAL CHURCH FIRSTLY ? FOR HOW MANY YEARS TOO?

IF YOU HAD READ MY POSTS YOU WOULD HAVE ALSO KNOWN I ALREADY HAVE SAID THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY.. THE TRUTH AND THE DISTORTION..

Like I have said…Now too often I myself also do not agree with the comments, free speech, but I merely tend to disregard it it next..

but what I do rightfully oppose still any and all free speech especially on the so called Christian Churches Internet sites, that is lying, slanderous, insulting, abusive, bullying, bashing.. such as the false bash of Pentecostals by the Brethren, Baptists, Reformed, etc., haters. Or the supposedly evangelical Baptist pastor who had said in the pulpit that he could not understand what Hitler did that was so bad, I helped to fire him , he now sells life insurance instead..

So many Churches, sites claim to be the sole Christian truth now these days, they are using the same Bible too, they even claim they are non denominational Christians, but they do still preach a different Jesus, a different Bible, a different sound too.. and their theology is easily identifiable too clearly as dispensationalist, Baptist or Brethren as well.. and not honestly a non denominational one as they had claimed to all even this listed site included now.. are guilty of deciet. I firmly and rightfully do believe that all of these Pentecostals bashers, bullies, do know of God, but they personally still do not know Him.

In love the Pentecostal bashers, critics under disguise of supposedly posting the truth, who mostly still do use the same unoriginal, ungodly, lame-brained, fool’s types of arguments, are not only clearly dishonest, uninspired, boring but they do also mostly have a personal agenda that is so transparent that sadly they are a basic embarrassment, their agenda clear involves the fact want to uplift themselves, their own gospel, sect, denomination mostly still as well. In love they should really read and practice the whole Bible firstly themselves.   

http://christiantheology.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/god-said-to-me/ When people attempt to subjectively add to that word, by saying God said this or God told me that, they may be in danger of becoming false prophets? So are also many of the poeople who deny that God had spoken to the others.. all as simple as that too..      

God speaks to us through many ways.. He speaks through his words, the Bible, through his holy spirit, through pastors, through others, through other means.. but no matter how God now speaks to us we all do need to be the ones open to hear him and to also to obey him in what he says, plus to continually seek Him continuously and to seek His way. Whether he speaks in a still small voice, or in a a loud external voice, he still speaks to us all today.. By the way I can tell the difference between God is speaking to me, the Holy Spirit is speaking to me and Jesus speaking to me too, or the devil, or my own thoughts, and can we all ?

 

Clearly one of the unique, great, valid emphasis of the Pentecostals from the other denominations is also their emphasis on personally hearing God speak. even personally and collectively speaking to us, verbally individually or in a collective setting by prophecy.   

For a complete discussion on the Voice of the Lord, see My Sheep Hear My Voice.  We all must strive unto perfection unto Holiness but the truth in Christ is we can never be free from sin totally here on earth, for we have this treasure in earthen vessels that the power in us may be manifested as coming from God and not from us, http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html  http://www.hallvworthington.com/teacher.html
   
Just cause God chose not to speak to you does not mean he God does not speak to others still too.  Sadly also everyone not only does not practice what they preach to others, and/or claims to be preaching the Gospel, using the same Bible, rather is tends to be the Gospel, the Bible according to them too often and not the one according to the Holy Spirit. We all now still should really get back to the Bible personally, and stop listening to mere men, and learn to listen to God and his Holy spirit

still the unsubstantiated false presuppositions, distortions, false accusations of the accuser of the brethren , the Devil himself destroys any creditability he may want us too believe that he has firstly

LOVE, Meekness and Humility: God’s Cure for Pride, Arrogance and Haughtiness.

The other day someone had written and said that Christians should be in one accord based on doctrines and truths.. God says it should be rather one accord in prayer and love..

Doctrines rather too often still are a false excuse to divorce, not to fellowship with another Christian brother for whom I still really have no love for myself and rather than deal with myself and admit the reality, I deny it by divorcing him or her…

(Gal 5:24 KJV) And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

and you can include those too often common now still ungodly, unholy doctrinal, denominational wars in the churches and on the internet now too.

There is a false holiness. It looks like the real thing, but the more you look into it, you see the error… and there is also a false Christian profession too, false submissions, false assertiveness or aggressiveness, not just false preaching, even a false Jesus Christ that is being worshipped, one that is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible.. some people even still do preach out of guilt, shame, ambition and not out of love. Preaching is not an acceptable alternative to living the Bible daily oneself.

Like I have said many a times too sadly still, one mistake by a Catholic, Pentecostal, Charismatic preacher and it is undeniable, clearly seems even on the net too that the other professing Christians are quick and ready to kill the wounded, to even bury them with further lies, distortions, slanders.. and what ever! The reaction of these still rather other bad guys is quite revealing, it firstly shows they have no love themselves too. That kind of approach won’t do much for the critics’ own positive feeling of personal self worth, self esteem too. They clearly must really hate themselves next for doing so as well. So what happened to the Biblical instruction of personally showing love, staying humble, meek too?

>>Spurgeon on the Christian Soldier’s Great Love

I am honest enough to admit that I do  have a problem with Spurgeon, how could this man of God who said he loves God, others supossedly, he  himself was not be able to stop smoking cigars now?
.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

  

(Gal 6:1 KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

(Mat 5:5 KJV) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

(Mat 11:29 KJV) Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

http://beyondfaith.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/for-fun-and-prophet/    “It is possible that God could grant anyone today the gift of prophecy; He is God and can do whatever He deems needed for mankind. With that being said, it is very unlikely that He does so though.” .. and this is absolute absurd Bible reinterpreation now  still too..

(Mat 10:41 KJV)  He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

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