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I had been going to church for a few months with my employer, he seemed very interest in spiritual things, but when I had prayed about it God specially replied to me that he God had allowed him to see the Kingdom of heaven from afar, but would never next enter in.. and that is so true of many religious persons, professing Christians now included.. who still are not born from above..by the Holy Spirit. Being outwardly religious can often bee very appealing even to the carnal flesh.. sad but true.
Isa 58:13 ¶ If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words: Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, a…nd feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].
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It may even  make you feel feel more spiritual to preach and keep the Jewish Saturday Sabbath requirements,  but realy  it only shows you do not read the whole Bible, that you are realy still ignorant of it, even of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit too who is not leading you still.. if you observe the Sabbath laws then you have to observe also now all the over 550 other Jewish Bible commandments perfectly as well but even then you still will go to Hell cause you are no longer saved by God’s grace, or by the finished work of Jesus Christ but are falsely trying to be saved now your own false works, like Cain tried.. Jesus had come and he had abolished the Jewish and  Sabbath requirements. 
(Mat 12:1 KJV) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. 3   But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 4  How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
 
(John 20:19 KJV) Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
 
(Acts 20:7 KJV) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
 
(1 Cor 16:2 KJV) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Rom 6:12  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

(Rom 7:21 KJV)  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

(Rom 3:20 KJV)  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Rom 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Rom 6:20  For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21  What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22  But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The new Israel, the Christian Church,  composed of personally saved by Jesus Christ Jews and gentiles replaces the old Israel in Heaven and on earth.. for the reality is that the new Israel is only the Church, the body of Christ which looks forward to the new Jerusalem too    (Rom 9:6 KJV)  Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Heb 8:8  For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11  And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12  For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13  In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away

Rom 2:17  Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, 18  And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; 19  And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, 20  An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. 21  Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 22  Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 23  Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

Rom 3:9  What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10  As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:  (Rom 5:8 KJV)  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Rom 5:20 KJV)  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.

And the more you know and try to keep the old Testament  laws  the more of a sinner you make yourself out to be rather.

So how do you explain to those falsely proud, self centered, soulish Bible ignorant seducers, deceivers , not Holy Spirit led  professing  believers that their false desire to keep all of the 10 commandments as  a part of the mosaic law that these false, rather still non Christian boastful people are now trying to make a mere big show in the flesh to others as to how supposedly great, good they now are, when these big  liars now in reality really now are rather  trying to boast to others of something also  they can never even all do anyway.. and never without being led by the spirit  of God, even that leading, help of the Holy Spirit is by faith, for neither you and they    cannot ever keep all of those commandments, not even close.. and no one even comes close, not even Apostle Paul.. Only one person ever kept those commandments, Jesus Christ only ,, Rom 7:6  But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Rom 8:1  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. :5  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11  But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12  Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

And are we now also the false  CHRISTIANS who try to to keep the Sabbath cause the devil and his followers demand that we do so and why do they falsely insist on it? there are actually many false reasons bad people, even bad pastors insist on it.. they want to put you under their bondage to the law and tithing, to steal your money by demanding tithes too, they want to lead you away from Jesus Christ so you can go to hell with them too.

I also do often could not help it but too many false persons are afraid to be known as Christians, do not want to be associated with Jesus Christ, so they use his name in vain, they use another name for Jesus even. and they often falsely do not want to be associated with Apostle Paul because he had left his Jewish heritage even.. (2 Cor 11:13 KJV) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

(Rom 1:16 KJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

SINCE THE TIME OF CHRIST ON THE BIGGEST DEMONIC THREATS TO CHRISTIANITY HAVE BEEN UNDENIABLY THE JEWS, THE   MESSIANIC JEWS ALL WHO TRYING TO SLIP IN BY THE BACK DOOR ARE PUSHING THEIR OBSOLETE, NO GOOD, FALSE RELIGION OF SALVATION BY THEIR OWN WORKS..

The ‘messianic Jews’ are just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN.

Do you understand that Christianity teaches that Judaism is the ‘old’ covenant which Christianity has replaced?

Thus nobody can follow both religions; they are mutually exclusive.

If I eat meat, can I still claim to be a vegetarian? No, of course not! What a realy mess this all is.

Messianic Jews are still just as much Jews as anything and not the real Christians of Jesus Christ. Seventh day Adventism, Judaizers, Messianic Jew want to have one foot in Hell, Judaism, and one foot in Heaven, Christianity,. Impossible.

I respect Christians but I don’t respect ‘messianic Jews’ because they lie claiming they are both jews and Christians.. give it up, you are one or the other.

All Jewish people, Messianic ones too can only be saved the same way as Gentiles can, by grace through faith in Jesus without the works of the law OF MOSES WHICH WAS DONE AWAY AFTER JESUS CHRIST CAME AND DIES ON THE CROSS

I agree that once you accept Jesus, you’re a Christian and no longer a Jew or a messianic Jew.

Messianic Jews, Judaizers Seventh day Adventists do now still have more in common with the Jews than the true Christians

Christians are NOT ‘or ever will be the restored Jews’

YOU CANNOT BE JEWISH AND EMBRACE JESUS. It is as simple as that.

Sadly still many persons like the  false Baptists, Plymouth Brethren, Catholics, Fundamentalists, Evangelicals, Jews, Seventh Day Adventists, Judaizers too, etc., they all still do want to live by their own Gospel, a simplified one that is still basically based on the Old Testament where you do not have to seriously repent of your sins, or be filled with the Holy Spirit for that unlike the New Testament only was for the select few

Could you be Christian and DENY Jesus? Same logic. You can’t be Jewish, a Jew and also now EMBRACE Jesus. if you observe the Jewish Saturday Sabbath you realy are not observing the Sunday Christian day of worship now too.

If someone born to a Jewish mother THEN embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They are either a New Testament Christian, or an Old testament Jew..

The Influence of the Hebrew Roots movement (HRM) has grown by leaps and bounds over the last century in America. It’s impact in this end time is being felt in all areas of Christendom of those who call Jesus Lord. For those who are Born of the Spirit, if they are Bereans and study the scriptures comparing this movement with the Gospel given to the NT church, they would see bright flashing danger signs. Sad to say, many are being deceived.

MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT ALMOST ALL THE JEWS ARE STILL SOME OF THE BIGGEST LIARS EVEN CLAIMING FALSELY THEY BELONG TO GOD ARE HIS CHOSEN ONES STILL THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY ARE STILL BIG BAD WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING COMING TO YOUR SITE TO STEAL YOUR UNSUSPECTING FLOCK, SHEEP..

The Hebrew Roots Movement which encompasses Messianic Judaism and both in fact are one and the same, just packaged differently in order to deceive more people, is gaining momentum in these last days. While Messianic Judaism is more Christ oriented, it is really just a stepping stone to the HRM. Many Jews who have accepted Christ as Messiah, are attempting as the Jewish Christians in the early church, to mesh Grace with Judaism under the Old Covenant, making all inclusive with one another the Works of the Law, as well as the ordinances, such as the Sabbath and other holy days and combining them with Christianity. The great Apostle Paul had much to say about this in his letters to the early church. Read the book of Galatians where Paul addresses this heresy and warns the early church that if they follow this teaching, they have fallen from grace.http://www.angelfire.com/la/jlush/dangersHRM.html

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A SCRIPTURAL VIEW OF MESSIANIC JUDAISM Exposing the heresy of the demonic Messianic Jew movement

1. The apostle Paul, a Jew said, “I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW” (1 Cor. 9:20).

2. “ALL WHO RELY ON OBSERVING THE LAW ARE UNDER A CURSE” (Gal. 3:10).

3. “CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW” (Gal. 3:13).

4. “NOW THAT FAITH HAS COME, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW” (Gal. 3:25).

5. “YOU HAVE BEEN SEVERED FROM CHRIST, YOU WHO ARE SEEKING TO BE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE” (Gal. 5:4).

6. “IF YOU ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT YOU ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW” (Gal. 5:18).

7. “WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS, IT SPEAKS TO THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW (Jews who are not born again)” (Rom. 3:19).

8. “THOSE WHO ARE CIRCUMCISED [JEWS] DO NOT EVEN KEEP THE LAW THEMSELVES” (Gal. 6:11).

9. “IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COULD BE GAINED THROUGH [KEEPING] THE LAW, CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!” (Gal. 2:21).

10. “GENTLES…DO NOT HAVE THE LAW…THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LAW” (Rom. 2:14) (Gentiles never have and never will have the Law.)

11. “NO ONE WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS IN HIS [GOD’S] SIGHT BY OBSERVING THE LAW” (Rom. 3:20).

12. “SIN SHALL NOT BE YOUR MASTER, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE [Grace is the God-given desire and power to do His will]” (Rom. 6:14).

13. “WE HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE LAW SO THAT WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE OLD WAY OF THE WRITTEN CODE” (Rom. 7:6).

14. “CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW … FOR EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES” (Rom. 10:4).

15. THE LAW IS “THE MINISTRY OF DEATH…[AND] CONDEMNATION” (2 Cor. 3:7 & 9).

16. “AVOID FOOLISH CONTROVERSIES AND GENEALOGIES AND STRIFE AND DISPUTES ABOUT THE [MOSAIC] LAW, FOR THEY ARE UNPROFITABLE AND WORTHLESS” (Titus 3:9).

http://www.bethelministries.com/MESSIANIC_JEWS.htm

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Apostle Paul, said that “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28).

-WHO IS JESUS CHRIST – IS HE A JEW, GENTILE OR NEITHER NOW?

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/who-is-jesus-christ-is-he-a-jew-gentile-or-neither-now/

-What does the word chosen mean in the Bible?

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

-About those Jews, persons who still falsely refuse to acknowledge openly Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

– Even Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

-Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven..

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/now-how-did-moses-abraham-the-great-jewish-patriarchs-next-make-it-to-heaven/

-Falsely “Torah-observant” -Jewish and Gentile Messianic Judaism

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/falsely-torah-observant-jewish-and-gentile-messianic-judaism/

Zionism, Zionists, Jews, Israel

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/messianic-jews-judaizers-seventh-day-adventist/

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SECURE

NOW WHY OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS IT THAT SOME ARE TRYING SO HARD TO PROVE ETERNAL SECURITY TO OTHERS IF THIS WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS POINT? WHILE ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE US FROM OUR SINS, ETERNAL SECURITY IS STILL A FARCE, A NEW DOCTRINE OF ONLY  THE LAST 200 YEARS INVENTED BY THE BRETHREN DISPENSATIONALIST REV JOHN DARBY AS IT HAS NOT EVEN A PART OF CHRISTIANITY THE 1800 YEARS BEFORE THAT NOW TOO

NEVER MIND YOUR MERE HUMAN ARGUMENTS SHOW HOW MUCH YOU REALLY KNOW THE BIBLE.. QUOTE YOUR APPLICABLE  VERSES THEN.. AS ETERNAL SECURITY IS A BIG DEMONIC LIE.. IF YOU BELIEVE IN IT THE DEVIL HAS YOU POSSESSED NOW AND NOT GOD.THE SAME PERSONS WHO BELIEVE THAT ONE IS ETERNALLY SECURED TEND TO ALSO FALSELY BELIEVE THAT NO CHRISTIAN CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED.. WHAT A MOUTHFUL. YOU CAN SEE WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THEY CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED..

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. These abusive, immoral rather Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only, are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too.. The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted and not accepted by main stream Christianity too. The dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” -Romans 16:17-18 KJV “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” -Jude 1:3-4 The Brethren oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit. “But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8. The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is still also unacceptable Dispensationalism is a system of theology that was first popularized by John Nelson Darby, 19th century British evangelist and forerunner of modern Christian fundamentalism. The false Scofield Reference Bible, written by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, popularized dispensationalism in the United States. The world’s Jews must return to Israel for a dispensational interpretation of prophecy to be fulfilled.

In the Bible, there are several passages in which God promises us the gift of eternal life, and the Bible also makes it perfectly clear that we can never earn that gift. However, a problem develops when people start to think that they don’t need to show any responsibilities towards God’s gift of salvation. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand” (Ezekiel 3:19-20).

Clearly everyone who’s under God’s grace needs to accept that dreaded word, “responsibility.”

• “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?” (Matthew 7:21-22).

•”Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils” (1 Timothy 4:1).

•”And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book (Exodus 32:33).

•”He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels” (Revelation 3:5).

•”For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame” (Hebrews 6:4-6).

•”And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46).

I failed to spot any exemptions allowing Christians to ignore God’s warnings:

•”Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him” (1 John 3:15).

•”This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away” (2 Tim 3:1-5).

•”But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8).

•”For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (2 Peter 2:20-22).

•”But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat” (1 Corinthians 5:11).

In America, about 84 percent of its citizens claim to be “Christians,” and a reported 57 percent belong to a church. When asked if they think they’ll be going to heaven, more than 90 percent of Americans believe that heaven will be their final destination.

Despite this people’s overwhelming optimism, Jesus, in Matthew 7:13-14, said that few would be saved. I’ve been asking people what they believe all my life, and I’ve found a very large portion of society holds to some form of the once-saved-always-saved doctrine.

The also bizarre argument that the eternal security crowd propagates is the idea that once you decide to become a Christian, you can never change your mind. Once you’re in, there’s no escape. From what Bible did this cultic teaching come? Certainly not the one I’m using.

The Apostle Peter says in 2 Peter 2:21 that it would “had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” Not only did Peter say that believers can turn away, but he said it would be better for them to not have become aware of something that would end up haunting them throughout all eternity.

One excuse I hear a lot in an attempt to explain how someone can seem to fall away is the statement that “these people never really believed in the first place.” I have known people who were saved miraculously, yet they fell away. If their salvation wasn’t legitimate, then I’d have to doubt honesty of every of all confessions. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians not only fall away, they admit to doing so cause Jesus did not give them all their wants, desires, needs next too.

all who believe on Eternal Security agree that salvation is secure for eternity because they truly repented and saved to become a believer sometime in the past even though they act like immoral pigs now too.. Eternal security is not a doctrine on it’s own. It has a supporting doctrine called “Faith Only” doctrine which teaches no works are required. This is primarily because, many of these clearly still Bible ignorant persons they do not properly discern the faith / works mentioned by Paul’s letters and in the book of James. Rom 4:2-5) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Jas 2:21-24) Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Eternal security supporters say, A person can be saved (present tense) through faith, not of works, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8, 9).

We need to look into the text carefully and with context. They ignore overlook the next verse esp., verse 10 which says “in Christ”.

(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

But if someone rejects Christ anytime along the way, he will also not receive eternal life.

(Rom 6:22-23) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Eternal security supporters say, True faithful converts will never reject Christ. If they reject, they were never truly saved.

Let us see what the scripture say.

(1Tim 4:1) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

(Heb 10:38-39) Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

How can someone depart from faith if they had not already in faith? Drawing back from what? Scripture says yes, we can walk away.

 (Matthew 7:19) “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Passages demonstrating that salvation is conditional upon continued faith:

You were once alienated from God – your very thoughts were hostile towards Him and your deeds were evil. Yet God has now made peace with you through the death of Christ in His physical body so that you may stand before Him as holy, without blemish and free from accusation – [this you will do] if you remain solidly grounded and firmly fixed in the faith, and un-moved from your hope in the gospel . . . Colossians 1:21-23

Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with Him, we will also live with Him; if we persevere, we will also reign with Him. If we disown Him, He will also disown us; If we are faithless, He will remain faithful, for He cannot disown Himself. 2nd Timothy 2:11-13

It is through this gospel that you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you – otherwise you have believed in vain. 1st Corinthians 15:2

We are of [Christ’s] household, if we hold fast to our courage and confidence in this hope. Hebrews 3:6

For we have all become partners of Christ, if we hold fast to our original conviction firmly to the end. Hebrews 3:14

2. Passages that warn us to protect our faith:

Examine yourselves to see whether you still stand steady in the faith. Put your qualifications [as Christians] to the test. Or didn’t you know this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is at home in you – if He’s not, then you are already disqualified. 2nd Corinthians 13:5

These things all happened [to the Exodus generation] by way of an example so that we might not lust after what is evil as they did. Don’t practice idolatry, as some of them did (as the scripture says “the people sat down to eat and got up to frolic”). Don’t fornicate, as some of them did, and 23,000 of them fell dead in a single day. And let’s not put the Lord to the test, as some of them did, and were killed by snakes. And don’t complain, as some of them did, and were killed by the destroying angel. All these things happened to them to give us an example, and have been written in scripture to warn us as we confront history’s final epoch. So let whoever thinks he’s standing firm be careful not to fall! 1st Corinthians 10:12

Watch out for yourselves, so you don’t lose what you’ve worked so hard for, but receive a full reward instead. No one who goes wandering off – that is, does not keep to the teachings about Jesus Christ – has a share in God. 2nd John 8-9

I am the vine, you are the branches. If a man remains in Me and I in Him, he will bear much fruit; apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. John 15:5-6

3. Passages teaching that sinful behavior is antithetical to faith:

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies – and whatever is similar to all these things. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Galatians 5:19-21

Don’t you know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor practitioners of homosexuality nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1st Corinthians 6:9-10

But among you there must not even be a hint of sexual immorality, or any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse jesting – things that have no place [among you]. Thanksgiving [is what ought to be heard coming from you] instead. For of this you can be sure: no immoral, impure, or greedy person – such a man is an idolater – has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Don’t let anyone deceive you about this with empty words, for it is because of just such things that God’s wrath comes upon those who refuse to obey and believe. So don’t enter into partnership with them. Ephesians 5:3-7

Those who want to get rich fall into temptations, traps, and many senseless and harmful lusts – the kind which swamp men[‘s hearts] to their destruction and damnation. 1st Timothy 6:9

Take it or leave but that is what the Bible still says..

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB I HAVE BEEN A CHRISTIAN NOW FOR 50 YEARS AND A CHRISTIAN PASTOR FOR 30 YEARS AND FOR DECADES NOW TOO I HAVE MANY FACEBOOK AND INTERNET SITES DEALING WITH GOD, JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO I AM NOT NEW TO THE VARIOUS GAMES PEOPLE PLAY EVEN ON THE NET. and their lies..

I also do think the most flagrant problem with the “once-saved-always-save” doctrine is the notion that people can confess to be a Christians, and yet live a life so depraved that the devil himself would refuse to associate with them. Unfortunately, because of the new false doctrines such as eternal security, hell has had to enlarge itself to make room for the millions of lost souls who have been deceived into going there (Isaiah 5:14). “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him” (James 1:12). these people like Reggie seem to be able to endure anything but siining it seems…. by falsely slandering others who do not go laong with them even. But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22

Eternal LIFE brought through Jesus Christ is a gift. Even though this gift is free, it MUST be conditionally accepted.. KEEPING YOUR ETERNAL LIFE NEXT IS CONDITIONAL AS WELL AND IT CAN ALSO NEXT BE REJECTED, AS YOU STILL HAVE YOUR OWN FREE WILL SOMETHING THE LIARS FALSELY DO NOT TELL YOU AND WHY? THEY HAVE OTHER AGENDAS FOR YOU LIKELY TOO..YOUR NAME NEXT CAN STILL BE BLOTTED FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE IF YOU SIN CONDITIONALLY WITHOUT REPENTANCE.. AND THERE IS MUCH MORE TO KNOW TOO… Now Judas was a Christian,, follower of Jesus who became undeniably Demon possessed and next went to hell. you always have a free will and you chose what spirit you do still have next too. More correctly, the word translated “possession” should simply be rendered “demonized,” that is, under the influence of a demonThe Apostle Judas typifies for me what a BAD CHRISTIAN is really like.. Judas is infamously known for his kiss and betrayal of Jesus to the hands of the chief Sanhedrin priests in exchange for a payment of thirty silver coins andh His place among the Twelve Apostles was later filled by Matthias.; yet woe is upon him, and he would have been better unborn (Matthew 26:23–25). from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. ( Acts 1:25) Most Christians still consider Judas a traitor. Indeed the term Judas has entered many languages as a synonym for betrayer. so Judas does not appear in an of the Epistles of Paul, as He who endures to the end shall be saved..

Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Yes even the initially Holy Spirit filled Christian can falsely still oppose the Holy Spirit next. A GOOD INDICATION TO ME IS HOW ANY PERSON OR GROUPS STANDS NOW ITH JESUS CHRIST IS IN THEIR VIEW OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.. DO THEY SEE HIM AS GOD, DO THEY ALSO ADMIT, TALK ABOUT HIS GIFTS MINISTRY, PERSONALITY AS WELL NOW THAT IS SO TRUE WHEN THEY ARE WRONG IN SUCH A VITAL AREA THEY ARE NEXT WRONG IN SO MANY CAUSE THEY ARE STILL BEING LED BY THE SPIRIT OF DEMONS AND NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT Imagine that the Bible says a Christian can still have also an unclean spirit.. wow.. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. In Acts chapter 5, Ananias and Sapphira, members of the early church, lied to the apostle Peter. They had sold some possessions to give to the church, and then had second thoughts and conspired to keep back a portion for themselves. When Peter asked them what amount they had received for the sale, Ananias and Sapphira lied. What was the source of that lie? The apostle Peter said, “Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit” (verse 3). In judgment, God struck them dead. If we accept the assumption that Ananias and Sapphira experienced the new birth in Christ, yet how else can we explain away the fact that their hearts were filled by Satan to such an extent that they were capable of committing a sin worthy of such abrupt and severe divine judgment? Yeah right, human reason and human logic can easily say that salvation is a free gift, the Holy Spirit is also a separate free gift that comes after salvation. and so does even demonic possession for many persons now too… it is why why Apostle Paul Command you to be filled with the Holy Spirit even… If Christians cannot be possessed now how come this is one of my popular posting too..

 

By the way I cast out 2 demons out of two Christian people in my church after they had repented. .. one was the pastor’s daughter who committed fornication, and the other one HAD made a bind with Satan ..Like I said let the Holy Spirit teach you here not false men.. there is nothing good in men.

Before I first became involved in exorcisms, I too had assumed that a Christian was immune from the torment of demons. I based that assumption on the influence of other supposedly Christian leaders who convinced me of this. “The Holy Spirit and an evil spirit can’t dwell in the same vessel.” “Light and darkness cannot co-exist.” The Holy Spirit showed me otherwise..

Anyone searching the Word of God more diligently about the matter of demons influencing Christians, can see that the issue wasn’t as conclusive as most people had thought.

The pastors and Bible teachers who had repeatedly reinforced the “Christians can’t have a demon” outlook had very little practical experience with the phenomenon. Clearly even the lack of experiential testimony about such a crucial area of spiritual deliverance was a glaring weakness.. People who are not even filled, baptized with the Holy Spirit falsely want to teach someone who is? absurd!

Man is a tripartite being (1 Thessalonians 5:23), and there are aspects of the human body, soul, mind that Satan can always occupy. While he is prohibited from touching the spirit of God’s saints, nothing prevents him from possessing, tormenting the body and soul-if the disobedient conduct of a Christian allows him to do so. 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

If you continue to sin the last verse does not apply. Casting a demon out of a believer is practiced in many , many churches today as well, I have been to a few of them too.

In Ephesians 4:23 Christians are admonished to “be renewed in the spirit of your mind.” If even the mind of the Christian needs renewal, then it stands to reason that when our minds are not renewed, they may be, to some degree, under the control of the ungodly forces.2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

Active and not passive resistance towards the devil is always required. “Present your bodies a living sacrifice,” we read in Romans 12:1. This means our bodies may not be completely sacrificed to God, and could therefore be CONTROLLED by Satan. James 4: 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Demon possession includes a demon having direct/complete control over the thoughts and/or actions of a person possessed. What you do not believe a dog can return to his vomit?

2 Peter 2: 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Matt 12: 43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Demonic “possession” means a demon can manifest through the host’s faculties-that is, see with the eyes, speak through the vocal cords, and even subject the person to a trance state of mental oblivion. Deliverance comes when the demon inside is cast outside.

What about those instances in which a demon manifests in a Christian? In most cases the demon likley had entered before the believer’s conversion to Christianity some say, and the evil spirit continued to control some part of the person’s life because the specific occult sin was never renounced. The demon claims squatter’s rights.

 

How Does Possession Come About? Uncontrolled anger, Unforgiveness, Fear, Unbelief, sexual immorality, impaired, drunkeness, occult involvement, cursing others, witchcraft , etc.

“If you’re a Christian and you don’t think you can have a demon – You have a demon,”

Demon possessed by a tormentor.. God’s spirit in King Saul was replaced by an evil spirit 1 Samuel 16:14 14But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15And Saul’s servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles you. 16Let our lord now command your servants, which are before you, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is on you, that he shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. … .Saul was afflicted with “an evil spirit” as a punishment for his insistent defiance of God’s will. He had committed flagrant violation of God’s commands on two previous occasions (1 Samuel 13:13-14; 15:11,19).

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him..

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? The devil by nature is a murderer (John 8:44). His rebellion against God changed his character and has made him a force that naturally kills and destroys all that comes under his power.

So, what about the sending of evil spirits by the Lord? This may be more common in scripture than you think. In Psalm 78:49, God judged Israel “by sending evil angels among them.” In Judges 9:23, “God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem.” In 1Kings 22:22, God sent a “lying spirit” in the mouth of the false prophets to send Ahab to his death. In the passage in question (1Samuel 16:14-15), God removed His Spirit from the disobedient Saul. This opened the door for an evil spirit to come and torment Saul. Though in this passage, it is only the servants of Saul that said the evil spirit was from the Lord, in other passages (1Samuel 18:10; 19:9), the text states that the evil spirit came from the Lord. When God removes His protective hand,the Lord allowed or permitted the distressing spirit to come upon Saul, he often turns the person over to Satan for destruction or to an evil spirit for torment. The devil and the evil spirits do the work, but God has allowed them to do what come natural to them for His own purpose.He uses evil to chastise evil” I know this concept it is thoroughly established in scripture. God does not commit wickedness, but He uses the wicked for His purpose. In the end, God will have His glory. How much better it is for us to submit to Him and obey Him willingly.

 

if Christ is the olive tree than you do not need to renews your mind because Christ will do it for you, just like the olive tree renews it branch. therefore you cannot BE connected to Christ and not produce good fruits. HOW REALLY ABSURD.. YOU MEAN YOU ARE A ROBOT NOW, YOU DO NOT HAVE A FREE WILL, YOU CANNOT SIN? EVEN EVANGELICAL PASTORS SIN ALL THE TIME, COMMIT ADULTERY, STEAL AND WHAT YOU DENY THEY DO SIN EVEN HERE.. HOW REALLY ABSURD..

 

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

 

 1 Kings 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

 

2 Chronicles 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

 

Proverbs 19:2 Also, that the soul be without knowledge, it is not good; and he that hasteth with his feet sinneth.

 

Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

 

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

 

Ezekiel 33:12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

 

How Does Possession Come About? Uncontrolled anger, Unforgiveness, Fear, Unbelief, sexual immorality, impaired, drunkeness, occult involvement, cursing others, witchcraft , etc.

“If you’re a Christian and you don’t think you can have a demon – You have a demon,”

Demon possessed by a tormentor.. God’s spirit in King Saul was replaced by an evil spirit 1 Samuel 16:14 14But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15And Saul’s servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles you. 16Let our lord now command your servants, which are before you, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is on you, that he shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. … .Saul was afflicted with “an evil spirit” as a punishment for his insistent defiance of God’s will. He had committed flagrant violation of God’s commands on two previous occasions (1 Samuel 13:13-14; 15:11,19).

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him..

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? The devil by nature is a murderer (John 8:44). His rebellion against God changed his character and has made him a force that naturally kills and destroys all that comes under his power.

So, what about the sending of evil spirits by the Lord? This may be more common in scripture than you think. In Psalm 78:49, God judged Israel “by sending evil angels among them.” In Judges 9:23, “God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem.” In 1Kings 22:22, God sent a “lying spirit” in the mouth of the false prophets to send Ahab to his death. In the passage in question (1Samuel 16:14-15), God removed His Spirit from the disobedient Saul. This opened the door for an evil spirit to come and torment Saul. Though in this passage, it is only the servants of Saul that said the evil spirit was from the Lord, in other passages (1Samuel 18:10; 19:9), the text states that the evil spirit came from the Lord. When God removes His protective hand,the Lord allowed or permitted the distressing spirit to come upon Saul, he often turns the person over to Satan for destruction or to an evil spirit for torment. The devil and the evil spirits do the work, but God has allowed them to do what come natural to them for His own purpose.He uses evil to chastise evil” I know this concept it is thoroughly established in scripture. God does not commit wickedness, but He uses the wicked for His purpose. In the end, God will have His glory. How much better it is for us to submit to Him and obey Him willingly.

 

And there is no place in the Bible that conclusively says Christians can’t be possessed. But, on the contrary, there are passages that do indicate that demon possession of believers CAN occur when they backslide from God. 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. nNow we know Satan and devils do exist, we know they are unembodied spirits that work in the spiritual realm, they desire to and are able to indwell humans (also animals) and influence their bodies and minds for evil, they vary in power and authority, but all are more powerful than man, and they can be controlled or cast out by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ if you confess your sins and turn your life to Jesus, all of it..Demons have been here since the beginning of human history. The same demons that infiltrated the antediluvian civilization in the days of Noah are alive and active today. They have infiltrated every area of life from childhood to adulthood, from play to marriage, from sports to work.

In 1 Corinthians 6 and 7, Paul reprimanded the Church, the Christian strongly for their marital infidelity. 1 cor 6:1 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

 

Ephesians 4:32  NIV  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you AND ironically IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT THAT YOUR SINS ARE NOR FORGIVEN AUTOMATICALLY AS EVEN KING DAVID HAD  FOUND OUT, RATHER YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY BRING YOUR SINS TO GOD, CONFESS THEM AND ASK FOR THEIR FORGIVENESS..

 

Romans 6: 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

1 Corinthians 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

2 Cor 10:5 — “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;”

You can’t drink the Lord’s cup [of communion-fellowship] and the cup of demons. You can’t share in the Lord’s [communion-fellowship] table and the table of demons. 1st Corinthians 10:21

Like i had said Possession is only one of the common type of demonic attack and the Possession of even professing Christians is not as rare as some imagine, mind you they will likely too quickly say I am the one possessed and/or crazy not themselves ehh Funny… Christians can receive deliverance from the demon. The last decade has seen a major shift by Evangelicals away from a belief that Christians could not be demonized or demon possessed to a dominate view that a child of God can be demon possessed and thus may need periodic deliverance.

Is demon possession rare? Not according to scripture! Mark 1:34, “…cast out many devils…” Luke 4:41, “…devils also came out of many…” Acts 8:7, “For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them…” Mark 6:13, “…they cast out many devils…” Matthew 8:16, “…they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils…”

Jesus sent fourth 70 disciples to preach the gospel and cast out demons, and they returned full of joy as they could see that this was a very real and important ministry. Now for Jesus to send out 70 men and they come back with praise reports of deliverances… that tells us that even though they were on foot, there were plenty of people in their area that needed deliverance! Luke 10:17, “And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.”

The Bible speaks of different ranks of demons (Eph 6:12), and Jesus taught His disciples that some demons were so strong that they required a level of faith to cast them out that was only obtainable through prayer and fasting (Mark 9:29).

Aren’t all demons the same? Absolutely not; they all have their own personalities, just like people do. There are different demons that serve different functions, such as some people are doctors while others are lawyers, etc. Some demons cause loss of hearing and loss of eyesight (Mark 9:25), while others cause infirmities, and others cause fear and depression (1 Samuel 16:14, “Now the Spirit of the LORD had left Saul, and the LORD sent a tormenting spirit that filled him with depression and fear.” -NLT).

Do demons have names? Yes they do, just like God’s holy angels have names (Luke 1:19, Judges 1:9). Often, the name of a demon will give you a clue as to what it does, the function it preforms, or the role it plays. Some of the demons in the Bible are known as deaf, dumb, infirmity, etc. (Mark 9:25, Luke 13:11).

Can demons return to the person whom they left? Yes Jesus warns the ‘wicked generation’ (sinners) that the demon can return with 7 even worse demons and if you go back and re-open the door(s) that let the demon in, you are re-welcoming him back in.

It is interesting that some people falsely do oppose the deliverance Ministry for any Christians and they have chosen to sit in the seat of God to judge others but not themselves .

 

1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.;

Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person..

(2 Cor 2:11 KJV) Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.; “

Now no one still takes the place of God in my life.. and they never will..

Deliverance and Demon Possession is not a popular topic especially amongst those who are clearly possessed through pride or whatever..

Yes even Christians can receive deliverance from the demon. The last decade has seen a major shift by Evangelicals away from a belief that Christians could not be demonized or demon possessed to a dominate view that a child of God can be demon possessed and thus may need periodic deliverance.

Let God Judge them? I used to think like you.. But God already did and many times has asked me personally to go to the pastors and to ask them to repent of special sins and about 10 percent do, the rest go on with their evil ways and next eventually even found in church pastors were removed, lost their church..it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands into the living God. ..

Biblical repentance is admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God, and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. Bow God has commanded all men everywhere to repent.. True repentance is confession, contrition, change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also a personal, ongoing event. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.; While submission of one to another, or sharing , is voluntarily, unenforceable, and is a direct commandment of God there are many professing Christians, other Persons who think they now also are good, godly persons yet they still are actuality demon possessed, as evident by their self centeredness, false self pride, their lack of forgiveness towards others now too.. and they do exhibit the demonic controlling spirit even under the false guise of privacy, Also now you can also be sure there is a great abundances of other sins, wrong doings in their life, cause once they had opened the door to the devil he next took the whole house.. And call it what you may it is still a power hungry, controlling, oppressing evil spirit in them.

I would rather see a sermon preached over just hearing one preached.. I have now cast out of demons from Christians, even a Pastor’s daughter..

Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits

Christians can inherit curses from parents; Christians need deliverance from certain kinds of sins in addition to the forgiveness received at salvation; Christians need to speak or do things to protect themselves and their loved ones from the demonic; Christians can boss Satan around by rebuking, binding, taking authority over him, or running him out of town, usually by sundown, all in the name of Jesus; demons occupy territories because of specific sins of those people which supposedly have given a basis for the demonic stronghold, instead of by permission of the sovereign will of God. Matthew 18:18: “Truly I am telling you, whatever you may bind upon the earth shall be that which has already been bound in heaven; and whatever you may loosed upon the earth shall be that which has already been loosed in heaven” (literal translation).

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).

It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit. They are not automatic.. sin is automatic still even in many in many people’s lives.. and you need the power of the holy Spirit to overcome it..

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ephesians 5″:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. — 1 John 4:1

You really need to relook at the definition of what a Christians really is There is major ,major misunderstanding even in the church as to what it really means to be a saved Christian. We need to look at what the Bible itself says here firstly too…

To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One, Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”.

Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

(1 Chronicles 16:22-24 NKJV) Saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” {23} Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. {24} Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”

Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…

and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths. and they falsely try to say something typical like this now.. the big lie“If you check every single Biblical reference to the Anointing you should notice that ” There is not ONE SINGLE reference to the anointing being a supernatural power given to human by which they are able to perform miracles… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to anyone being able to transmit the anointing by any means, including the laying on of hands… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to getting, keeping, increasing, or losing the anointing.”

Mind you they these same liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with Bathsheba..

It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”

Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even many preachers. As many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God. They do not have God’s understanding of the subject cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His

Would you believe it that I had spent half of my life in the Baptist Church till the holy Spirit reveled to me what really dummies they were spiritually and how they were really both Holy Spirit and new testament ignorant still too The heart knows its own bitterness ( Proverbs 14:10)

How do you now deal with demon possessed Christian persons? ignore them send them top a physiatrist.. unlike Jesus and the Apostles? I myself rightfully firstly ask them to repent of the specific sin that got them possessed.. Narcissm included.. Narcissism is used to describe a person characterized by harshness, egotism, vanity, pride, or selfishness.

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a serious personal personality disorder in which the individual is excessively preoccupied with issues of personal needs, wants, desires, adequacy, power, prestige and even vanity..

Persons diagnosed with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder are characterized by unwarranted, false feelings of self-importance. They are aggressors who have an abnormal sense of entitlement and demonstrate grandiosity in their beliefs and behavior. They have a over inflated strong need for admiration of others, but meanwhile lack feelings of love, care, concerns empathy for others. Like the case of a father who buys a nice new car for himself while his own son suffers in poverty. These negative qualities are usually defenses against a deep feeling of inferiority and of being in the past rejected, unloved. Example- Rebuked in a marriage proposal.

The concept of Narcissus, excessive selfishness has been recognized negative through the Bible throughout history. Narcissism is usually considered a major problem in a person or group’s relationships with self and others.

These people who are pathologically narcissistic, are very much controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ views, unaware of others’ needs as well., obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges, problems in sustaining, satisfying relationships. lack of love to others, no emotional attachments, difficulty with empathy, clear problems distinguishing the self from others, manifest a hypersensitivity to any insults real or imagined insults, criticism and manifests often rage and objects to narcissistic injury, napoleon complex, use contempt to minimize the other person, can resort to physical abuse of others quite easily, inability to process shame in healthy ways.; gentleness only to those who admire and affirm them , detesting those who do not admire them , use other people without considering the cost of doing so, imposters, hypocrites, pretending to be more important even to all others over what they really are, self promoter, mostly, takes advantage of others to reach own imposed goals, always expects to be recognized as superior and special, without any real even superior accomplishments, falsely expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement of their goodness from others; arrogant in attitudes and behavior, expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic, often lying, ragging and exaggerate of their achievements, values, effects., claiming to be a genius, “expert” at all things, clearly cold, unloving, fruitless, inability to view the world from the perspective of other people, clear denial of any wrong doings, guilt, remorse and evident no gratitude.

Narcissists hold unreasonable and false expectations of particularly favorable treatment form all others and the related automatic compliance because they consider falsely do themselves special above all others. Failure to comply to praising them is considered a personal attack on them, their superiority, and the unacceptable perpetrator is immediately considered an “enemy” or “crazy” person, censured, not to associate with anymore. Any Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic even violent rage. All others are always to be placed in a subservient position. All Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all.

Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and their false illusion known , self projection to dump shame falsely unto onto others.

A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.

The narcissist who is feeling deflated does often re-inflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else. In other words a Slave driver, a control freak and Bully as well.

It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.;

says Salvation is a gift.. AND SO it is now still a false what a justification for all the sins that even too many evangelical pastors also and undeniably can still do after they had been already saved.. and how really really absurd, ridiculous response Reggie that is still .. really Reggie I love all the relevant the Holy Spirit led Bible verses you had posted to me in reply.. what there are none? why was that? only the personal attacks, insults…Oh yes insults upon insults.. it seems I am talking to a child and not a mature adult still.. and is it cause you really are Bible ignorant like so many others so you cannot give a biblical evidence for your faith as Apostle Paul said we should? ..   really Repentance is also a gift and clearly many fundamental Christians still they do not seem to have it.. so their sons now are unforgiven and thus they do return to hell with them. So   tell me to whom these verses were written? to all non saved Baptists only ehh..

 1 John 1: 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Eternal security: the belief that once a person accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior, he can never be lost. Eternal security sounds great until you realize that this doctrine allows people to commit every sin under the sun without suffering any consequences for their complete lack of holy living. Why most people lack any concern for their eternal salvation is the most baffling question I can ponder. The Bible says that few people will choose to make heaven their eternal home. (Mat 7:13-14) The Bible and man are in sharp conflict with each other because most folks expect to be bound for heaven when they leave this world. It’s no accident that most people are deceived about their eternal destiny. Satan, who is described as the enemy of mankind, has made the damnation of souls his full-time job. Of course, everyone who’s been hoodwinked by the devil into believing a lie only has himself or herself to blame for the poor judgment. It is the false advocates of eternal security that are often called, ignorant, immature carnal Christians by many In Romans 6:5-6 we are told that in order for us to be a part of His resurrection we must also be a part of His death. Verse 6 is very clear that it is the body of sin that is to be destroyed. When we are born again we are a new creation in Christ Jesus and no longer a slave to our carnal desires. We are in fact commanded to turn away from sin. Remember that whoever we serve is our master. If we serve God then we are dead to sin. If we serve sin then we are dead to God. We cannot serve two masters. It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock. As a result many of them falsely resort to a dictatorial, abusive or hierarchy church structure and they demand falsely AND force submission, and of course they even abuse their flock… they do now even cheat, lie, steal, slander, wrongfully counsel divorce.. . many people are surprised at this and do not know what to do.. Recognize, admit the sad truth and shout their sins from the housetops. They are not real, loving shepherds called by God..

One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal by God, so they too are ignorant, they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play. Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.

AND   DO SEE ALSO
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html ..

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/deceived-by-the-imposters-cults-sects-wolves-in-sheep-clothing/ .

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