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But you know that already..

Don’t Believe Everything You Read, or see, even if it is writing, especially if it is a preacher or a politician it now seems.. not even too many of the so called professionals..
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/don%e2%80%99t-believe-everything-you-read-or-see/ http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/professionals-what-a-joke/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/people-need-to-stop-lying-to-others-themselves/

Too many people lie, lie to others and lie to themselves, it all supposedly is alright, but as they get older they tend to even lie some more and clearly manifest a mental disorder (Rom 7:19 KJV) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. (2 Tim 3:13 KJV) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Many persons who are fed up with the APPARENT INADEQUACIES even in the socialized medicine would like us to believe that a private medical system is better… and that is mere wishful thinking.. for even in a private system there are too often the same inadequacies, even for the same reasons, the apparent lack of supervision of medical personnel and services… http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/14/the-great-debate-private-or-socialized-medicare/

Admittedly it is sad, but still the truth that Most people still are not in total touch with reality.. cause they are being lied to or cause they lie and start to believe their own lies. Most people are also still Ostriches in denial, they have glamorous versions of the reality, a distorted one, a spin, one they use to force themselves not to deal with the reality or to have to think about the reality negatively.. for not surprisingly since the average person now lies 3 times every 10 minutes.. and too too often even the news reporters, politicians, professionals falsely object to the telling of the negative truths, realties as it would be bad for their business, careers http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/people-need-to-stop-lying-to-others-themselves/

Now we all have heard the phrase “here to serve”.. but dream on if you are dumb enough to believe that.. most people still are self serving to start of with.. The world is full of self serving persons and Liars, who even often lie to themselves too, there are too many persons with a hidden agenda, sometimes not too hidden ones, such as self promotion, financial gains are too often amongst the top of their goals still. Most of us tend not to believe everything we hear, but most of us are still gullible and do too often get taken in by liars, spin doctors, bad preacher, lying newspapers, reporters daily too…

In the Montreal Verdun hospital the patients ward does not have air conditioning but where the nurses work it is air conditioned by room window units. Visit the 3 floor for a great example. A sick elderly patient who is often cold, catches a cold easily too, was in one of these rooms for a blood transfusion and the nurse in charge was asked to temporary close the air conditioning for a few hours, but the selfish, self centered nurse next refused to do so because she would have to work under warm conditions. Whose welfare was more important? The Patient got sicker as a direct result too. How will the clearly pretentious, useless Ombudsman reply here?

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/thenonconformer%e2%80%99s-canadian-blog/

Not just in Churches, amongst the police, politicians, civil and public servants, I have never seem so many lying, mental people in one place like I have amongst the medical workers I have dealt with this year in in Hospitals, convalescent, old age homes who really do delude themselves too often about their self importance and the positive role they are functioning in. When a medical professional cannot see what they are doing now is simply so wrong they themselves do now need real professional help too.

The People who lie often, the professionals now included, they tend to have severe personal, mental disorders next cause one tends to eventually believe next ones lies as being the truth, and they can no no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth.

Narcissistic, selfish, self centered Mental Disorders too evident now even in many of the so called medical Professionals leads these persons to dwell in self-absorption, fantasy, illusion, where she or he has exaggerated claims to talents, importance, or specialness, manifesting evidence of a need for constant admiration from others, a lack of empathy for all others, persistent in this too, have rigid personality traits and coping styles, clearly inflexible, do show a hypersensitivity to any criticism , defeat or negative realities thus they rather are pathological in denial by the their falsity, contrived replacement of the truths which they still must face eventually . These SEVERE PERSONALITY disorders are generally personally ongoing too leading to more impaired social and/or occupational functioning and can make it difficult to pinpoint a clear dividing line between their pathology and their so called normality. Most of these people with their personality disorders may not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too.

Denial, it is very very common when many an individual, even amongst so called professionals, even in pastors now included, are openly confronted with their own wrong doings, that they resort to a false denial. When confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy. Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on a false assumption of one’s past great success and often precedes their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life. Illustrated fully by the story of the Emperor with new clothes.

Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence, a mechanism of the immature mind that conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. The subject may now deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimization) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly related to the denial of one’s addiction to alcohol for example, or to one slandering others, abusing them stealing, lying.. their denial or their minimization of their own wrong doings is the essential part of what enables them next to to continue his or her behavior in the face of evidence that, to an outsider, that is overwhelming. “The American Heart Association cites denial as a principal reason that treatment of a heart attack is delayed. Because the symptoms are so varied, and often have other potential explanations, the opportunity exists for the patient to deny the emergency, often with fatal consequences. It is common for patients to delay mammograms or other tests because of a fear of cancer, even though this is clearly maladaptive.”

Types of Denial include now the Denial of fact: This form of denial is where someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details in order to tailor a story (omission), This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by blaming, minimizing or justifying. Denial of responsibility: Denial of impact: avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms their behavior have caused to themselves or others. Denial of awareness: they do not admit any previous awareness of the negative reality. Denial of cycle: Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. Denial of denial: This latter form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. People in a false denial are really nuts, delusional..

There are tools and practices that we can implement to overcome the psychological trap of denial. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty is one of the best approach serving everyone’s best interest too. It is a clearly established fact with good basis as to why our Canadian leaders, politicians, police, military, public and civil servants who are always to be exemplary are even personally are to held to a higher standard, accountability in reality.

People in leadership office do have to face higher penalties as an example now too. It is clearly established, accepted fact by most people that those in leadership civil and public servants cops, teachers, ministers, politicians included are always to be exemplary in behavior, conduct and they do need to maintain their high standards even out of their working hours, thus to do so they are also to be exemplary judged, prosecuted for their own wrong doings with a higher standard over those of us ordinary folks.

Too many police officers even are now too often guilty of their most serious neglect of public trust and their duty. The related truth is that neither an independent police investigation, a new police commissioner, a promised provincial or federal investigation, or just more politicians promises too often still will not bring the much needed justice. All of the governments can prohibit the initial and further employment of any known racists for any jobs, and can punish them for their racists acts, views. Police managers continue to promise the reforming of bad cops and the bad cops keep killing, abusing innocent persons. The possible retaining of bad police officers is always anyway a false myth. What thus is always needed is the real the dismissal, criminal prosecution, of the guilty cops. So where is it? Speeding is not the main cause of car accidents, impaired driving is, but too many cops are alcoholics it seems who wrongfully do sympathize with drunks and as a result do not arrest drunks all year http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/canadas-police-forces/.

(Exo 34:6 KJV) And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

(Prov 3:3 KJV) Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart: 4 So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.

(Prov 14:22 KJV) Do they not err that devise evil? but mercy and truth shall be to them that devise good.

(Prov 14:23 KJV) In all labour there is profit: but the talk of the lips tendeth only to penury.

(Prov 16:6 KJV) By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.

(John 8:32 KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

SO WHO, WHAT ARE THE CAUSES OF OUR INADEQUATE MEDICARE (CANADA), RCMP, POLICE? The Bad People!

PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND PROSECUTION OF THE GUILTY SERVES EVERYONE’S BEST INTEREST, SEND A COPY TO AL YOUR FRIENDS OF YOUR COMPLAINTS TOO..

OTTAWA – Canada’s outspoken veterans ombudsman won’t be re-appointed by the Conservative government. Sources have told The Canadian Press retired colonel Pat Stogran, who commanded the country’s first battle group in Kandahar in 2002, was notified earlier this week that his term won’t be renewed. He apparently ran afoul of the federal government in his criticism of the bureaucracy, which he accused of being more interested in saving money that helping veterans. His term comes to an end in November. A spokeswoman for Veteran Affairs Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn’s office would not confirm or deny Stogran’s impending departure. Reached on his cell phone, the ombudsman also would not comment and referred all questions to the minister’s office. He was appointed with much fanfare in 2007 to be first ombudsman under the New Veterans Charter, a marquee position the Conservatives leaned heavily upon as proof they were behind the troops. In an interview with The Canadian Press earlier this year, Stogran said the system was weighted towards treating wounded soldiers like industrial accident victims. More recently, he accused the department’s bureaucracy of blocking initiatives that would help veterans because it would it would cost the federal treasury more money. His frustration was also evident in recent Twitter postings. “The penny pinching ‘insurance company’ mentality should not be embraced since it does not reflect the spirit of the legislation,” was the message posted from his account on July 23. And from later the same day: “What seems to be missing is the principle of honouring Veterans by generously providing benefits.” Stogran joins a long list other federal government appointees who’ve been shown the door, including Peter Tinsley, former head of the Military Police Complaints Commission and Linda Keen, the former head of Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100814/national/veterans_ombudsman_fired

…the problem at the federal and provincial level.. if they do a good job representing the citizens they may get fired, so too many it seems they instead resort to false denials, work on pleasing the establishment.. I have many times dealt with real big deniers. C Roy Montreal Verdun Hospital. An Undeniable Pretentious Ombudsman who has not yet even dealt adequately with any one of my many written complaints so far. They go overboard with the lying, for just imagine this them now denying every single complaint of mine, every one, how really absurd. Anyone now calling me a liar, implying that what I had written, that I was lying, about what I had personally witnessed will not get any points, for I still do make sure everyone will know the whole truth anyway on the net, all politicians and news editors too, for no one can deny my own witness as well and the fact when they lie to me they lie likely to everyone

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Verses of Scripture which gripped my soul.

Ps.34:5.“They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed”.

I remember at the age of ten I used to repeat this verse so many times to myself as God’s promise to me! It stayed on with me ever since.

l Thes. 4:12

At the age of eighteen I was in the second year of my Bible college. I was beginning to read and understand English then. Living Letters (Epistles of the Living Bible) came out those days and I grabbed it like hot cake. The simple language and bold print attracted me to it. I remember reading it again and again. But one of the verses which gripped my soul was a part of l Thes. 4:12. “This should be your ambition to live a quiet life minding your own business”. From then I never poked my nose into the life or business of some one else. I truly thank the Lord for giving me this insight very early in my life.

Lk. 16:15 “for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.”

After completing the phonemic analysis and writing basic grammar for Kurumba language I met a professor form Tamil University and discussed the possibility of registering for a Ph.D. program. It was easily possible with a little more effort and final write up. Next time when I went to Chennai I met the professor and bought an application form for the same. The following day for meditation was this verse of scripture. I learnt that God has a different standard from that of men. I decided I would never look for a high estimation among men. I just dropped that application form and never used it!

The truth of scripture which transformed my life

I read several books on prayer. Dick Eastman’s “No Easy Road” and “The Hour That Changes the World” are the two books which put me on the proper track. One of the greatest truths I learnt from this author is: “What prayer means to God, criticism means to the Devil”. I studied the concept further. We know Our Lord intercedes for us while the devil accuses us before the Father. They generate opposite forces and they work one against the other. I learnt that when I intercede I help that Lord in His ministry; but when I accuse or criticize I help the devil and his ministry. When I intercede I do the Lord’s work. When I accuse some one I do the devil’s work.

I decided that I would never accuse a person for whom Christ intercedes. I began to see my prayers being answered as never before! Many of us pray. But if we entertain a critical spirit our prayer can never reach God. How can the Lord help someone who helps the devil? If any one wants to have a powerful prayer life, such a person should never accuse anyone even in prayer! (Read more about this in my book on prayer, the chapter titled ‘Opposite Force of Prayer’)

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so who can we Judge?

>>It’s a shame there are Christians as judgmental as the display presented here, today. Jesus did tell us not to judge others, did He not?

and funny that itself was a judgment statement

I get a chuckle when so many so called Christians show their total Bible Ignorance.. they quote isolated verses neglecting the many other applicable verses.

God, Jesus, the Bible, the apostles said we basically are not to judge the non Christians in regard to their spirituality, or to judge other Christians in regard to their lack of observance of the old testament ritual laws now too, but we are to judge all of the professing Christians, to judge even as the type of fruit they bear now too, whether they are keeping the ten commandments, are now really true to the faith.. and even to rebuke them, openly if they do not. But first actually read the Bible and see this for yourself..

(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
(Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
(Mat 5:25 KJV) Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
(Luke 12:57 KJV) Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
(Luke 19:22 KJV) And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
(John 5:30 KJV) I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
(John 7:24 KJV) Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
(John 8:15 KJV) Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
(John 8:16 KJV) And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
(John 12:47 KJV) And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
(John 12:48 KJV) He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
(Acts 10:42 KJV) And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
(1 Cor 5:12 KJV) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
(1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
(1 Cor 6:3 KJV) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
(1 Cor 6:4 KJV) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
(1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
(1 Cor 10:15 KJV) I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
(1 Cor 11:31 KJV) For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
(1 Cor 14:29 KJV) Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
(Col 2:16 KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(Rev 19:11 KJV) And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

>> “CS Lewis was man like you and I, I believe he was right in some cases and wrong in other views, but in no way “no Christian” or a false prophet.”

and if any of us was judged now on everything we had said, done, we would all go to hell, and for sure be declared non Christians..
the true Christian lives by faith in God.. Did CS Lewis have faith in God that God would save him in spite of CS Lewis being imperfect, a sinner… the clear answer seems yes.

I find it so hypocritical that most of us know that pastors tend to be imperfect, but yet we falsely declare too often that if any so called christian leader sins, now does one thing wrong he or she is immediately called a false prophet.. but there is no man that does good and still sins not.. for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.. we all do have this treasure of God himself in us in the simple, sinful, earthen vessels still.

so who can we Judge?

Well we can judge ourselves firstly to see if we are still sound in the faith?

(1 Cor 9:27 KJV) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

let me also remind you that there is no verse in the Bible that says a politician, a ruler outside of the church, has to be even a Christian. A professing Christian, pastor, elder, evangelist ? yes, he or she still also has to practise what he preaches.

>>I am having a hard time with this…there are some people who believe that a Christian can be possessed. I don’t understand how that would be possible since the Holy Spirit is living inside you… I believe there are lots of folks who have a “said” faith, and I believe because it is not a true faith they can be possessed by demons, but I don’t see how this could happen in someone with a true faith.

and some people will say they were never saved in the first place but EVER HEAR OF A DOG RETURNING TO IT’S VOMIT as opposed to once saved always saved? (2 Pet 2:22 KJV) But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.CONTINUE TO LIVE LIKE A SINNER AND YOU FOR SURE NEXT WILL GO TO HELL INSTEAD. EVEN BY YOUR OWN FREE WILL CHOICE.

Yes the Holy Spirit will do his part and we have to do our part which is to resist evil. RESIST THE DEVIL (James 4:7 KJV) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.(James 4:8 KJV) Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.what a man sows he will reap still, saved or not.. (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal 6:8 KJV) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

The Pentecostal Movement

Pentecostals .

(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally seperates the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.

Pentecostalism or Classical Pentecostalism believe that all Real Christians are Pentecostals or Charismatics and is a renewal movement within Christianity that places special emphasis on a direct personal experience of God through the Lordship of Jesus Christ, baptism with the Holy Spirit leading to Holy Spirit–filled and empowered life as well as biblical authority, and the miraculous, personal empowerment which includes the use of spiritual gifts. Pentecostals tend to also see their movement as reflecting the same kind of spiritual power and teachings that were found in the Apostolic Age of the early church. For this reason, some Pentecostals also use the term Apostolic or full gospel to describe their movement. Real Pentecostals do practise and believe and in an authentic relationship with God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, the Trinity, stemming from simple conversation with them through prayers and even fasting. They tend to believe a Christian can both be demon possessed and can lose their personal Salvation as well. They tend to put a greater emphasis on prayer over Bible reading, and thus can still even have some personal errors.. Pentecostalism as a whole now even follows four core doctrines: salvation, divine healing, baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the second coming of Christ as well as a Mission to others. These missions include to evangelize the lost, the praise and worship of God, to teach and disciple believers, and to show practical, real compassion to the poor and needy. Some Pentecostals groups still falsely teach and demand tithing. Others now falsely allow divorce. Many Pentecostals also put emphasis on the latter rain outpouring, Believing that we all were living in the end times, they expect God to presently spiritually renew the Christian Church bringing to pass not only the restoration of spiritual gifts, but also the evangelization of the whole world by the re-establishment and the mutual submission of the offices of Apostles, Prophets, Pastors teachers, evangelists. It should be noted some Pastors falsely object to their submission to others. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/holy-spirit-led-filled-christians/

In the Pentecostal churches. the biggest distinction setting them apart from the other Protestant churches is their practice of speaking in tongues as a sign of anointing and “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” – a special experience following salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service.. Yes the Assemblies of God churches teach that the initial physical evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues, as experienced on the Day of Pentecost in the book of Acts and in the Epistles.

Another distinct practice of Pentecostals is the laying of hands, for Holy Spirit empowering and the “miraculous healing” by the power of the Holy Spirit. As the same faith in Jesus Christ that saves also can heal the person but there are no documented cases of visibly evident healing like restored limbs, or restored teeth, since one reaps also what one sows. The divine healing of the sick is a privilege for all real Christians today and is provided for in Christ’s atonement.

Other rightful Fundamental Beliefs, Truths
– They believe that any believers can fall from grace as a result of persistent, unrepentant sin or choose to go to hell by their own free will.
– All of the Scriptures are inspired by God.
-They believe there is One True God revealed in three persons.
– They believe in the the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.
– They believe in man willingly fell into sin – ushering in evil and death, both physical and spiritual, into the world.
– They believe every person can be restored to fellowship with God through accepting Christ’s offer of forgiveness and salvation.
– They believe in Water Baptism by immersion after salvation,
– They believe in the Holy Communion as a symbolic remembrance of Christ’s suffering and death for our salvation.
– They believe in t the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a special experience following salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service.
– They believe in the the initial evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues as experienced on the Day of Pentecost.
– They believe in the sanctification initially occurs at Salvation, but is also a progressive lifelong process.
– They believe in the church has a mission to seek and save all who are lost in sin.
– They believe in the a divinely called and God ordained leadership ministry serves the church.
– They believe in a New Jerusalem, a new heavens and a new earth that Christ is preparing for all people who have accepted Him.
– They believe in the Blessed Hope when Jesus openly not in secret raptures his church upon his return to Earth.
– They believe i in the millennial reign of Christ when Jesus returns with his saints at his second coming and begins his rule over earth for 1,000 years.
– They believe in the in a final judgment for those who have rejected Christ which is hell.
– They believe in the physical ressurrection of the dead, resurrection of our original earthly bodies in heaven

There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many persons now there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers.

The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California..

“Pentecostal/Charismatic Christianity in Africa is over a hundred years old. Today the continent has one of the fastest growing and diverse forms of Pentecostalism in the world. Mega churches in West Africa, segregated churches in South Africa and enormous gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people are features of this phenomenon, but essentially some of the most fascinating features include Pentecostalism’s ability to adapt to different contexts and its relationship with African governments.

Statistics are notoriously difficult to calculate and verify, and even more so in Africa. But the estimates we have for Christian affiliation at the beginning of the twenty-first century reveal some amazing trends that any casual observer of Christianity in Africa will not find so incredible. According to one estimate, 11% of Africa’s population (including the predominantly Muslim north) was ‘Charismatic’ in 2000. Even if this figure is only roughly approximate, the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements undoubtedly are fast becoming dominant forms of Christianity on the continent. This has been developing for over a century and Africa now has its own distinct contribution to make to the shape of global Pentecostal and Charismatic Christianity.

NOW NUMBERING OVER 500 million, and probably the fastest growing religious movement in the world, Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are transforming the global religious demographic, especially in Latin America and Africa. They comprise nearly half of Brazil’s population, and 25 percent of the United States is Pentecostal or Charismatic. “

http://www.sundayschoolcourses.com/denominations/denominations.htm#_Toc147897237

Formed:	ad
Theology and practice:	Evangelical, Spirit-filled, charismatic, fundamentalist, often Free Will, divine healing, speaking in tongues as a sign of baptism by the Holy Spirit, eschatological. Early in the movement, many were pacifistic. (Note: only a very tiny portion of Pentecostals are involved in snake handling)
Baptism:	Believer’s, immersion. Baptism by the Holy Spirit. Will sometimes do rebaptisms for back-sliders.
Sacraments:	Baptism and Communion
Form of government:	(Very) decentralized
Worship:	Non-Liturgical
Famous members [21]:	Oral Roberts, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, John Ashcroft, James Watt, Elvis Presley, Denzel Washington, Anthony Quinn, Pat Boone, Aimee Semple McPherson, Al Sharpton

The Pentecostal movement is the largest Protestant denomination in the world today, by some accounts [22], approaching 500,000,000 adherents. (Note: not all Pentecostal churches have formal membership programs).

The Pentecostal movement had its beginnings in the Holiness movement of the mid-19^th century. The Holiness movement itself grew out of the Spirit-filled Methodist tradition, and resulted in a second wave (the first wave occurred in the 18^th century) of revival meetings sweeping throughout the United States. One church denomination that came directly out of the Holiness movement is the Church of the Nazarene (1,500,000 members in 2006). The Church of the Nazarene Web site lists these as the attributes of the Wesleyan-Holiness Churches [23]:

Born out of the 19th-century holiness revivals
Accepted pietism emphasis
Reemphasis on sanctification as second work
Possibility of a sinless life
Sanctification both instantaneous and progressive
Revival oriented
Missionary minded
Simple worship
Conservative in theology
Emphasis on personal ethics
Appeal to the poor

In the late 19^th century, a Kansas college student named Charles Fox Parham promulgated a theory of glossolalia – speaking in tongues – as evidence of baptism of the Holy Spirit. In time, his theory would spread like wildfire across the Midwest, and make its way all the way to Los Angeles.

In 1903, a southern Holiness preacher named William J. Seymour opened the Azusa Street Revival. His first sermon was on the Pentecost (Acts 2:4), and the modern Pentecostal movement was born.

Pentecostalism reached a mass audience in the 1910s and 1920s when Aimee Semple McPherson became a national sensation as a Pentecostal revivalist. She drove around in a “gospel car”, with signs on it such as “Where will you spend eternity?”

The Pentecostal Mission (20th century). For the 19th century Pentecostal Mission holiness denomination, The Pentecostal Mission (TPM) or New Testament Church (NTC) formerly known as Ceylon Pentecostal Mission (CPM), is a Pentecostal denomination which originated in Ceylon, now Sri Lanka. In some countries, the church is known under slightly different names. The international headquarters is now situated in Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India. It has around 2,500,000 members worldwide over 65 nations. This mission was founded in Colombo, Sri Lanka in 1923 by a Hindu convert, Ramankutty – later known as Pastor Paul It now has churches (or Faith Homes) in many parts of Sri Lanka, as well as India, Nepal, Malaysia, USA, Canada, Europe, Africa, Singapore, Hong Kong, Australia, France, New Zealand, the Caribbean Islands and the Middle East. Worldwide, there are branches in Brazil, Ecuador, Zambia, Rwanda, Guinea, Zimbabwe, Cameroon, Mauritius, Jamaica, Seychelles, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Guadeloupe, Nicaragua, South Africa, Gambia, Ivory Coast, Honduras and Dubai. The doctrines of the church are traditional Pentecostal ones mostly, include: Trinity, New Birth (being born again), Water Baptism, Baptism of the Holy Spirit as evidenced by speaking in unknown tongues, Separation, Divine Healing, Entire Sanctification (of the Body, Soul and Spirit), Overcoming Life, Consecrated Ministry, Rapture, Tribulation and Great Tribulation, Resurrection, The Millennial Reign, The Great White Throne , Judgment, and Eternity. (The Rapture is a Dispensational doctrine, not substantiated in the New Testament.) The site is made for the fellowship of the Pentecostal Mission and any other Christians.

Key Events

Date	Event
1867	National Holiness Camp Meeting Association formed
1896	Speaking in tongues occurs at a Holiness meeting in North Carolina
1900	Charles Fox Parham opens a Bible school in Topeka, Kansas
1901	Speaking in tongues occurs at a Holiness meeting in Topeka, Kansas
1903	A revival in Galena, Kansas gains thousands of converts to Charles Parham’s message
1905	The Great Revival in Wales published, introducing a larger audience to what would become Pentecostalism
1906	The Azusa Street Revival in Los Angeles, led by William J. Seymour becomes the foundation of the modern Pentecostal movement
1906	First General Assembly of the Church of God, in Cleveland Tennessee
1907	Pentecostal Assemblies of the World organized
1910	Tennessee preacher George W. Hensley handles a rattlesnake in front of his congregation
1913	Pentecostal-Holiness meeting held in Arroyo Seco, Califo rnia, attended primarily by Pentecostal pastors
1914	First General Counsel of the Assemblies of God; receives ordained women into fellowship
1919	Aimee Semple McPherson becomes a national sensation as a Pentecostal revivalist. She drove around in a “gospel car”, with signs on it such as “Where will you spend eternity?”
1922	Death of William J. Seymour
1926	Aimee Semple McPherson somewhat discredited in what may have been a phony kidnapping
1943	Pentecostal churches join the National Association of Evangelicals
1998	Largest church in the world is the Yoido Full Gospel Church in Korea – 240,000 attend weekly worship [24]
2006	Assemblies of God has 12,100 churches in the U.S.; 236,022 churches and outstations in 191 other nations [25]

The Power of God

Now about Pentecostals.. I have never been hated so much anywhere by any religious groups as I have been by Brethren and Baptist Christians, pastors when they find out I am a Pentecostal… their evident fruits of hatred alone shows how false they themselves now are too. they clearly had, do manifest the opposite of the fruit of the Holy Spirit which is love.

Clearly Self-complacency, Self-deception about one’s own adequacies and Pretention, Deception of self-aggrandizement, Legalism, Unbelief in God still manifest as being the basic causes for the visible lack of available Biblical Power amongst so many Christians, Churches even today!

(John 15:5 KJV) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

(Mat 6:13 KJV) And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

(Mat 9:8 KJV) But when the multitude saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.

(Mat 10:1 KJV) And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

(Mat 22:29 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

(Mat 28:18 KJV) And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

(Mark 3:15 KJV) And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:

(Luke 1:35 KJV) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

(Luke 4:14 KJV) And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

(Luke 4:32 KJV) And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.

(Luke 4:36 KJV) And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.

(Luke 5:17 KJV) And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them.

(Luke 9:43 KJV) And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God.

(Luke 10:19 KJV) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

(Luke 12:5 KJV) But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

(Acts 1:8 KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

(Acts 3:12 KJV) And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? (Acts 3:16 KJV) And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

(Acts 4:7 KJV) And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?…10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

(Acts 4:33 KJV) And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

(Acts 6:8 KJV) And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(Rom 1:4 KJV) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

(Rom 1:16 KJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

(Rom 15:13 KJV) Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

(Rom 15:19 KJV) Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

(Rom 16:25 KJV) Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

(1 Cor 1:18 KJV) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

(1 Cor 1:24 KJV) But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

(1 Cor 2:4 KJV) And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

(1 Cor 2:5 KJV) That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

(1 Cor 4:20 KJV) For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

(2 Cor 4:7 KJV) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

(2 Cor 12:9 KJV) And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

(2 Cor 13:4 KJV) For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

(Eph 1:19 KJV) And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

(Eph 3:20 KJV) Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

(Eph 6:10 KJV) Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

(1 Th 1:5 KJV) For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

(2 Tim 1:7 KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

(2 Tim 3:5 KJV) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

(2 Pet 1:3 KJV) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

(2 Pet 1:16 KJV) For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

(Rev 18:1 KJV) And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

(Rev 19:1 KJV) And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

(Rev 20:6 KJV) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

In many churches, the Pastoral Library are filled with ungodly men’s books, commentaries, and they wrongfully too have replaced the Bible as the power of God

God is not looking for Liberals, mere Librarians or Historians but He is looking for godly men and women willing to be filled with the Holy Spirit and next being seriously committed to praying for a Revival from on High.

Increased personal Bible reading, prayer and obedience are clear signals that we personally are pressing toward maturity in Jesus Christ. For we cannot hope to lead any of the others to where we ourselves have refused to go..

The Real Thing

(1 Chr 16:20 KJV) And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. 23 Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; show forth from day to day his salvation. 24 Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations. 25 For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised: he also is to be feared above all gods. 26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 27 Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place. 28 Give unto the LORD, ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD glory and strength. 29 Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. 30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. 31 Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigneth. 32 Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. 33 Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he cometh to judge the earth. 34 O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. 35 And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise. 36 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel for ever and ever. And all the people said, Amen, and praised the LORD.

Now the majority of Pentecostals tend to define Jesus Christ as the Messiah, Savior, Baptizer of the Holy Spirit, Healer, Deliverer, Coming King, Lord and they also do believe in the whole Bible as the further revealed word of God by which we measure all truths now by too, they also do believe in the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ and in His second coming, return to earth for His own, … they also do tend to believe in the existance of Heaven, Hell, the need of giving, Servanthood, of adult Baptism, being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit now too. They also do believe in the need for continous prayer and daily Bible readings, Bible devotionals.

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;

(Psa 37:23 KJV) The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way. 24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand. 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

One of the most absurd statements that I have heard in the clearly ignorant fundamental Baptist, Plymouth Brethren churches, was that Pentecostals are not Christians, and/or they are demon possessed, falsely even emotional persons, they supposedly are even a false cult, false sect all rather spoken by narrow minded fundamentalists persons who clearly themselves do not accept the Bible literally.

For the Fundamentals themselves now too often and falsely they pick and chose the parts of the Bible they want to believe in, and distort the other parts too. They wrongfully tend too often too not believe in the existence of the gift of Apostles, Prophets- elders, existence today as well, or in the gift healing, all of the 9 and more supernatural gifts of the Holy sprit, nor do they the Fundamentalists too often believe in emotionally praising the Lord, with real joy, actively. And the Fundamentalists they certainly have changed the role of the Church deacons from that which was defined in the New Testament, in the book of Acts now too, selected and anointed persons who were to help and look after the poor people in the church.

I have been a Pentecostal Christian for 3 decades and someone has yet to show me what is so unChristian with my faith from the Bible. And for the two previous decades that I was Baptist I certainly saw a lot of liars, abusers, hypocrites, adulterers, idol worshippers, non practicing Christians too in the Baptist, Brethren faith now too.

I find it ironical that some people are so desperate to poof that all Pentecostals are false they even refer to Pentecostal preachers for support such as (1) Spiritual Authority: The Word And The Testimony by A.W. Tozer, 1950, and others too.

“Many Pentecostals will defend their experience by simply saying “it must be so because it is my experience”. This is a false comment by a false person now too. For I know whom I have believed in and he will raise me alive in the last day too.

Many of these false pentecostals bashers have to lie, distort, use straw, false arguements, and not the Bible itself to prove their points clearly now too. As we can all easily see now too. Why? because they firstly themslves really do not know the world of God too often, pastors included.. they mostly believe what other men have told them mostly.

I have met pretenders, imposters in all churches, in all of the denominations, even in the Baptist, Brethren churches now too. Don’t judge the whole church by the few..

Now I do agree that there are some, a very small few, false Pentecostal break away minority groups (such as United Pentecostal church ), and I also do undeniably agree that the majority of the Christian Missionary Alliance church members , adherents are non Christians, for they are mere lip serving Christians only for they really do differ from the main Pentecostal churches when they had broken away from them. Now I know very clearly there are many Canadians who rightfully do not believe that our Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper , a Christian Missionary alliance church member now is a Christian, and neither do I . Do see http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/popular-christian-based-readinsg-resources/

Also for certainty neither Mormons, nor Jehovah witnesses they are a sect, a cult and are not all also real Christians even if they profess to be or think they are now too. I also do have rightfully serious doubts of the salvation of many Messianic Jewish believers who have not made Jesus Lord of their life and have not forsaken all, their culture now included, to follow after Jesus Christ

Luke 18:28 And Peter said, See, we have left our own [things–home, family, and business] and have followed You. 29 And He said to them, I say to you truly, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 Who will not receive in return many times more in this world and, in the coming age, eternal life.

and not by a long shot would I agree that any Dispensationalists is a bonfied Christian now as well..

(1Jn 1:4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

(1Jn 1:5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

(1Jn 1:6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

(1Jn 1:7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin

He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
PSALM 91

The secret place is not a cave, physical fortress, or city of refuge somewhere that the Lord has set apart for us as some caring ruler may dedicate for that purpose. It is not even His palace but the secret place is none other than His Own Presence. He Himself is my refuge and fortress!

In my Father’s house

(John 14:2 KJV) In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

One of the greatest promises we have besides all of our sins being forgiven and us next having eternal life as well is that Jesus has gone to heaven to prepare a home for each one of us and he will come back for us next as well.

(John 14:4 KJV) 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Now why is it so unbelievable that some Christians cannot believe now that we can do the same miraculous works that Jesus did, is it because of their sinful unbelief, or the fact they are really not Christians rather still?

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

anyone who continues to violate even the ten commandments really still does not love God.. does not know Him

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

If we let him God will help us, talk to us, lead us into all truth

the posts the Lakeland Revival bashers seem to despise

Florida Healing Outpouring with Todd Bentley: 30 Reasons for Healing (16-30)

27 06 2008

First, Roy Fields is back! Others leading has been moving, but there is something about him that changes the atmosphere. Roy, welcome back. Second if you are in Lakeland Fl on the 4th of July there will be free food. From 4-7pm, next Friday there be a celebration with free food. This will also lead into a water Baptism service. I am just thrilled for both of these events. The first shows a desire to reach out to host community and give back to those who have given so much. As important, the second is another example of how Fresh Fire and Ignited are taking care and shepherding those who are making profession of faith under their leadership.

Another fun fact, there is now a medical doctor who is reviewing all the medical reports about healing. The desire for accountability and integrity is great in Lakeland. One of the assistants said there is a four step process for those who take the stage professing healing
1 Pastor volunteers from around the world, screen and test, those who claim to have received healing
2 This is then relayed to those who bring the person on stage, to ensure what is shared is consistent
3 After they are on the platform, a survey is filled out with symptoms, sign of healing and contacts.
4 FOLLOW UP! 1-2 weeks a phone call is made to see how they are doing.

Just some random quotes form Todd Bentley… he really does use the name of Jesus.
(This is just a sample, to show who the glory goes to)

“We are encouraging people to see doctors after healings. I believe in medicine”
“It is the power of Jesus. We are powerless without the power of the Holy Ghost
“Can we give thanks to Jesus for this.”
“We want to give all we can, leally, to the media to give the glory to Jesus.”
“We give all the glory to Jesus”
“Can we give Jesus all the glory tonight?”
while praying for healing, “Two new ankles in Jesus mighty name”

30 Reasons for Healings #16-30 (all verses NIV)

16. He does what he pleases – God is sovereign and healing happens because God chooses too.
17. Charitable Giving- (whole chapters but verses) Acts 9: 36 In Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (which, when translated, is Dorcas), who was always doing good and helping the poor and Acts10:2 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. Based on these verses miracles happens as a direct result of charitable giving. It would seem that when we take care of the pour, God reaches and extra measure of the miracles.
18. The Gospel – Mark 16:19-20 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. Healing is good news and, according to Todd, the Gospel is the power of God as well as the message of salvation
19. I am a friend of God’s – John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. God hears the prayers of His friends. What do you do for your “true” friends? The deeper the intimacy with God, the deeper the friendship. Is God your friend, because there seems to be many who understand Jehovah but do not understand Abba. Abba, is the characteristic of a deep personal relationship.
20. The Glory of God – John 11:4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”
21. The cures of the Law – Romans 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. Healings show that you free from the law of sin and death.
22. Desperation: Mark 5:27 When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, Sometime people need a touch so bad they push trough to get it. “if only this small amount” They are the ones who are desperate enough to reach out and get healed

23. Connection locked up

24. Name of God – Exodus 15:26 He said, “If you listen carefully to the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you.”

25. Communion – 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. This would seem to be a reason why you are not, but if it bring sickness maybe it bring healing (my thought on it, time was short so the last were real quick)

26. Gift of the Spirit- There was no verse give to justify this, but 1 Corinthians12:9-109to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

27. The name of Jesus – Triune God, Jesus is God see #24

28. The nature of the Holy Spirit – God creates when the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit moves. It was after Genesis 1:2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. That God said, “Let there be light.” IF the Spirit lives with us, then he is moving, we should expect creation (new body parts is creation).
29. I am Saved – James 5:15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Faith is a gift of the Spirit and only saved people have this. So salvation, brings faith, faith brings healing. And, yes because Jesus forgave my sins.
30. Kingdom of God- Mathew 6:10 Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. There is no sickness in the Kingdom, God preformes creation in His kingdom, there are miricals in the Kingdom, let it be so here

These are the second half of the 30 reasons, each with scripture refrances. People you may not like Todd Bentley, but please be careful arguing against the word of God. For those around Todd, let him know I said “thanks for the teaching, it has meant a lot to me.”

On a personal note: I blew out my knee today, while walking down some stairs. It hurt to move or even put pressure on it. Tonight, during the broadcast, I WAS HEALED. Proof of this, I wrote this whole blog standing up.

http://allenwilson.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/florida-healing-outpouring-with-todd-bentley-30-reasons-for-healing-16-30/

the Lakeland critics seem to be led by the devil..

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/

Do see also

http://pbulow.tripod.com/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://www.socyberty.com/Advice/Are-You-a-Control-Freak.101788

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/wrongful-accusations/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/