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2:35pm   Oct 31
MK 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized (with the Spirit) will be saved; but he who does not….

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(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally seperates the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

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The gift of discernment is a God given spiritual gift that the  Holy Spirit hasprovided a way for us to sort truth from error, a  GIFT that many charismatic Christians like Pentecostals now have been given Solely through their second baptism that allows them to know what the God thinks about the subject in question in reality, it is having the mind of Christ on the subject for discernment and it is one of these nine supernatural gifts (see 1 Cor. 12:8-10) Discernment is a sign of spiritual maturity. In our culture today up is down and right is wrong. God’s true people must be equipped with the supernatural power to tell the difference between the true and the false. If you are realy Holy Spirit filled then you know you have this gift..

1 Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Cor 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1 Cor 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1 Cor 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1 Cor 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Have any of you ever noticed that a good majority of false Christian PERSONS seem to profess to have the gift of discernment.. EVEN IF THEY MOSTLY DO NOT KNOW OR FOLLOW AFTER GOD STILL.. their false pride tends not to let them admit how dumb they realy are otherwise they may have to do something good about it.

MOST PERSONS IN REALITY STILL DO NOT HAVE SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT, AS OPPOSED TO USING MERELY THEIR OWN REASONING, MINDS, AND IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOLY SPRIT BAPTIZED, IN REALITY THEY STILL ARE NOT HOLY SPIRIT FILL STILL EVEN CAUSE THEY BASICALLY ARE NOT FOLLOWING AFTER GOD, OR HIS WAYS, THEY ARE STILL ARE DISOBEDIENT TO GOD MOSTLY AND HAVE NOT EVEN DIED TO SELF

1 Cor 2:15 (KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things…

Luke 12:57 (NIV) “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?”

Understand that there is a difference between discernment for the judgment that God encourages, and criticism for inappropriate judgments
 
Consider the negative reality of most person’s  lack of discernment: Firstly too much attention or not enough is given to world,  the flesh, the devil; even Christian sect seems to focus too much  on one and ignore the others. Diseases are falsely always assumed to be demons and “rebuked” without discernment or effect. Or Demons are often falsely assumed to be sickness, and irrelevant “treatment” is attempted. Also God’s discipline is attributed to Satan, and made light of. Or Satan’s oppression is accepted falsely as being from God. The obvious promptings of the carnal flesh are falsely assumed to be the spirit, or even of the soul. The sinful  soul’s leading  is confused with the spirit.  With such faulty diagnosis, discernment, many attempt “ministry”, to no effect, and often to great harm. Is this what we realy are like?
 
John 7:24 (NIV) “Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.”

Prov 19:2 (NIV) It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.

1 Cor 4:5 (Phi) “The moral of this is that we should make no hasty or premature judgments.”

(James 1:5 KJV)  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
 
(James 1:6 KJV)  But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

It is also a fact that if you want more revelations from God you have to act upon, obey, fulfill the revelation you already have. Discernment is damaged when anyone compromises to sin. But discernment is still one of the most important gift needed today. For every genuine gift of the Spirit, there is a counterfeit. Discernment will determine what is genuinely of the Spirit and what is deception of the devil.

Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48   For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

(1 Sam 3:19 KJV) And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground.
(Psa 37:31 KJV) The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Ezek 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. :27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. 28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken. 29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully. 30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. 31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.

Now when I have often met a new Church pastor, or a church elder, I may have even heard of him beforehand from others, but I basically did not know who he was or what he was realy like. Subsequently I often saw a clear visions, as clear as watching news on the TV, where God would now show me what sins they were still indulging in.. even sins like adultery. Now that is the gift of spiritual discernment. 1 Cor 2:15 (KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things…

the lack of spiritual discernment have lead to a tragic drifting of the  traditional, Biblical, Pentecostal ship. And a ship that drifts will find itself going nowhere  good..

.. did you get that gift yet?

Luke 11:9 (NIV) “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

Mat 16:3 (KJV) “…’It will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowering.’ O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?”

Isa 11:2-3 (NIV) The Spirit of the Lord will rest upon him–the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord–and he will delight in the fear of the Lord. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears.

John 8:15-16,26 (NIV) “You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father who sent me… I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”

what about you?

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Because Jesus was raised from the dead, we’ve been given a brand-new life, and we also do have everything to live for, including a future in heaven (1 Peter 1:3–4)

(Gen 9:3 KJV) Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

(Gen 24:1 KJV) And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the LORD had blessed Abraham in all things.

(Deu 4:7 KJV) For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

(Neh 9:6 KJV) Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

(Psa 8:6 KJV) Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

(Psa 57:2 KJV) I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.

(Prov 28:5 KJV) Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

(Isa 44:24 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

(Mat 19:26 KJV) But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

(Mat 21:22 KJV) And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

(Mat 28:20 KJV) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

(Mark 9:23 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

(Mark 10:27 KJV) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

(John 1:3 KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

(John 3:35 KJV) The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

(John 5:20 KJV) For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

(John 15:15 KJV) Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

(John 16:15 KJV) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

(Rom 8:28 KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

(Rom 8:32 KJV) He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

(Rom 11:36 KJV) For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

(1 Cor 3:21 KJV) Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

(2 Cor 5:17 KJV) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

(2 Cor 7:16 KJV) I rejoice therefore that I have confidence in you in all things.

(2 Cor 9:8 KJV) And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

(Eph 5:20 KJV) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

(Phil 3:21 KJV) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

(Phil 4:13 KJV) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

(Col 1:16 KJV) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

(Col 1:17 KJV) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

(2 Tim 2:7 KJV) Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

(1 Pet 4:8 KJV) And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

(1 Pet 4:11 KJV) If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

(2 Pet 1:3 KJV) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

(1 John 2:20 KJV) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

(1 John 2:27 KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

(3 John 1:2 KJV) Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

(Rev 4:11 KJV) Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

(Rev 21:5 KJV) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

(Rev 21:7 KJV) He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Jesus give us a fresh start everyday even in all things, your past is forgiven, you are equipped, saved, healed, delivered by him now too.. appropriate it right now..

 

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Turn your eyes upon Jesus,

Look full in His wonderful face,

and the things of earth will grow strangely dim,

in the light of His glory and grace.

FOR A START THE UNACCEPTABLE ABUSES I HAD WITNESSED HAD VERY SIMILAR PATTERNS.. THEY WERE RELATED TO STEALING OF MONEY, DISTORTION PREACHING ON TITHING, BUT ALSO RELATED MAINLY ON THE INADEQUATE SUPERVISIONS BY THE RESPONSIBLE SUPERINTENDENTS ON THE BAD PASTORS WHO WERE FALSELY ALLOWED TO DO THEIR OWN THING, ACTED LIKE DICTATORS.
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

Help in identifying-spiritual-abuse –– anyonecare.wordpress.com “First, abusive churches have a control-oriented style of leadership. “

”There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.” Ezekiel 22:25-28

“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Timothy 6:3-5

Jesus said “Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a mans life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.” Luke 12:15

“For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.” Ephesians 5:5-7

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:24

Some Pastors will go to Bible school for years and next not even change spiritually. I had the fortunate aspects of being associated for some time with many Bible students in a local religious institution. I happily got to know many of the…m personally while they were going to school and I had even lived with some of them too, as we shared a house.. I next saw many of these same persons who had next graduated from the Bible school and they next went on in life. What I had specially had noted was the good persons who went to the Bible school were next good and kind, humble persons. I had also noticed that the bad persons, the bad Bible students, those who had lied, stole, abused others, committed adultery, they next were still not changed even though they had graduated from the Bible college. All proving that Bible study alone does not change a persons but rather the spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit changes all of the persons. Now the Churches who try to manipulate , please all persons will fail

“There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and there is that withholdeth more than is meet, but it tendeth to poverty. The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. He that withholdeth corn, the people shall curse him: but blessing shall be upon the head of him that selleth it.” Proverbs 11:24-26

In one city I had been to every church I went to was great, but in another city every church I went to was bad and why was that now?

As I have traveled from city to city, provinces to province, to the US as well I also have visited so called Christian, Evangelical visited churches and one thing that has clearly amazed me, disrobed me as well was how not only are too often the leadership of the church pretentious inadequate, including the pastors, elders, deacons, but also the fact that in each city the churches tend to very very similar, all mostly very bad.. I have often said that these churches have been unable to significantly change the surrounding characters of persons because they rather have been conformed to them, they now have watered down falsely their membership standards, mainly have conformed to the local ruling evil spirits. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/north-american-churches/

it took me a while to next figure out what was wrong with a close, personal friend of mine, an evangelical pastor, and also with his associates now too in one of our local churches now too.. for he often had some of the right sounding words.. but some how I knew something was always obviously basically wrong.. it even was the fact he clearly was always now concerned about the Basics of life: food, clothing, shelter, job, image and too often rather.. their concern for having better material things… Hirelings or prostitutes to me it means the same thing.. sadly the last 12 pastors I had personally encountered where now hirelings!

(Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29 The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30 Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/a-hireling-in-an-evangelical-church/

The opposite of humility is pride. Pride comes from within, out of the heart of men
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/pride-leads-to-destruction-and-humility-to-honour-what-motivates-many-persons-these-days/

It is not too long of a time when one hears in life negative criticisms about even the Church of Jesus, Christ, or the pastors, or the church elders.. and while we are all still to keep our eyes and ears open we all now can avoid the great disappointments if we firstly still do go to a Church to discover, to get to know God firsthand, and not rather to know better the preacher, or the elders, or the denomination.

Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

When I seek God I find him and he does not fail me or disappointed me.

(Eccl 12:1 KJV) Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

(James 4:8 KJV) Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/dont-be-disappointed-with-god/

Let another man praise thee and not thyself.. and check if what is said is really so now too.. and all this now is nothing new as well. How many of you do know that even the preacher now can lie too?

(Acts 20:31 KJV) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/too-often-misleading-preachers/

(Prov 27:23 KJV) Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WANT AN OVER SIMPLIFIED RELIGION, GOSPEL, BIBLE.. AND 95 PERCENT OF THE CHRISTIANS EVEN NOW DO NOT READ THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES A DAY, SO THEY BELIEVE MOSTLY WHAT OTHERS HAD SAID ABOUT THE BIBLE. Mostly distortions, lies, heresies too..

ALMOST ALL CHRISTIANS DO HAVE TO STOP LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHERS SAY THE BIBLE SAYS AND TO RATHER NOW START TO KNOW, READ THE BIBLE THEMSELVES. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE STILL IN GREAT ERRORS..

NOW THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THERE ARE TRUE AND FALSE APOSTLES, PROPHETS, ELDERS, TEACHERS AND HOW TO RECOGNIZE THEM. By their behaviors..

“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:5 “Is John MacArthur a heretic when he teaches the entire Pentecostal movement worldwide (over 400 million) is of Satan? Isn’t blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when one attributes the gift of God to Satan? When MacArthur boldly teaches all speaking in tongues done today is demonic he has no idea of the consequences he’s facing!
http://safeguardyoursoul.com/are-tongues-demonic/

One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now. today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade a pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others. Now sad but true.. too many false pastors, false teachers, false cults, false denominations with hidden agenda take advantage of this void and lead the professing Christian sheep astray next, helped by the devil in all of this too undeniably.
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/pastors-elders-shepherds-christian-leaders-evangelists/

I strongly support the existence of good church shepherds, good church pastors, good elders, who visit their flock, provide help to them, do keep vigilance, guard over them and their good welfare, visit them in the Hospital too. These acts clearly distinguishes them from the much too many bad pastors, rather pastoral prostitutes or hirelings WE SEEM TO STILL ENCOUNTER EVEN THESE DAYS. * Bad men who were not chosen by God to be shepherds, but rather self appointed even for many wrong reasons. And the term pastors in the Bible is rather a plural one meaning the local church should have many of them now too. Not just a false one man ministry. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

God speaks to us in many ways today postedat.wordpress.com
Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, will not confess their sins now too..

(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally spares the the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement

Even all Jews and Zionists would do well to learn from the Biblical account of even the Apostle Judas.” When morning came, he called HIS DISCIPLES to him and chose twelve of them whom he also designated apostles: Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor” (Lk. 6:13-16). Once he was one of the Apostles but next you can tell what he realy was by what he did, by his own fruits, theft and betrayals included.. ” Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.” Psa 41:9 All four gospels identify Judas as the betrayer. The same Judas Iscariot also had left everything to follow the Lord. In modern terminology, he had ‘accepted’ Jesus as Lord Judas is a prime example of a ONCE CHOSEN believer who fell into absolute apostasy. For three years he followed the Lord with the other disciples BUT HE NEXT BECAME A TRAITOR, turning against Jesus Christ the Messiah, Judas quietly became a vile, tool of Satan WITH his heart gradually hardened became the false, treacherous man who had even sold the Savior even for a fistful of coins. He served as crooked treasurer for Jesus and the Apostles, which meant he carried the money bag. and abused it. John tells us that he was also dishonest and that he often stole money out of the bag whenever he wanted it. he objected so strongly to Mary (sister of Martha and Lazarus) pouring expensive perfume (nard) on Jesus’ feet. He said they should have sold the nard and used the money to help the poor. But what he really wanted was more money in the treasury so he could steal it. (John. 12:1-6); Judas clearly unlike the other apostles did not give up his Jewish heritage but falsely tried to hang on to it.; He made the mistake that falsely looked towards a revived Jewish empire on earth. Judas next committed suicide even and he was next replaced as an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

 

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It is not too long of a time when one hears in life negative criticisms about even the Church of Jesus, Christ, or the pastors, or the church elders.. and while we are all still to keep our eyes and ears open we all now can avoid the great disappointments if we firstly still do go to a Church to discover, to get to know God firsthand, and not rather to know better the preacher, or the elders, or the denomination.

Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

When I seek God I find him and he does not fail me or disappoint me.

(Eccl 12:1 KJV) Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

(James 4:8 KJV) Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

(Psa 69:18 KJV) Draw nigh unto my soul, and redeem it: deliver me because of mine enemies.

(2 Sam 22:31 KJV) As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.

(Job 4:18 KJV) Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:

(Job 13:15 KJV) Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.

(Job 15:15 KJV) Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

(Job 15:31 KJV) Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompense.

(Psa 2:12 KJV) Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

(Psa 4:5 KJV) Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in the LORD.

(Psa 5:11 KJV) But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee.

(Psa 9:10 KJV) And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

(Psa 17:7 KJV) Show thy marvellous lovingkindness, O thou that savest by thy right hand them which put their trust in thee from those that rise up against them.

(Psa 18:30 KJV) As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.

(Psa 20:7 KJV) Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

(Psa 25:2 KJV) O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me.

(Psa 25:20 KJV) O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.

(Psa 31:6 KJV) I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD.

(Psa 31:19 KJV) Oh how great is thy goodness, which thou hast laid up for them that fear thee; which thou hast wrought for them that trust in thee before the sons of men!

(Psa 34:22 KJV) The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.

(Psa 37:3 KJV) Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.

(Psa 37:40 KJV) And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.

(Psa 40:3 KJV) And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.

(Psa 44:6 KJV) For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.

(Psa 52:8 KJV) But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.

(Psa 55:23 KJV) But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.

(Psa 56:3 KJV) What time I am afraid, I will trust in thee.

(Psa 61:4 KJV) I will abide in thy tabernacle for ever: I will trust in the covert of thy wings. Selah.

(Psa 62:8 KJV) Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.

(Psa 64:10 KJV) The righteous shall be glad in the LORD, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory.

(Psa 73:28 KJV) But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, that I may declare all thy works.

(Psa 115:10 KJV) O house of Aaron, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.

(Psa 115:11 KJV) Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.

(Psa 118:8 KJV) It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

(Psa 118:9 KJV) It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

(Psa 119:42 KJV) So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word.

(Psa 125:1 KJV) They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.

(Psa 146:3 KJV) Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

(Prov 3:5 KJV) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

(Prov 28:25 KJV) He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.

(Prov 29:25 KJV) The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.

(Prov 30:5 KJV) Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

(Isa 31:1 KJV) Woe to them that go down to Egypt for help; and stay on horses, and trust in chariots, because they are many; and in horsemen, because they are very strong; but they look not unto the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD!

(Isa 42:17 KJV) They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.

(Isa 50:10 KJV) Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.

(Hosea 10:13 KJV) Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.

(Nahum 1:7 KJV) The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.

(2 Cor 1:9 KJV) But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

(Heb 2:13 KJV) And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

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According to the popular misconception old age retirement is a place of peace, quietness, a place where you get to do all the things you had wanted to do. Not rather a place of regrets, torment, pain, depressions, sicknesses, deaths,. Most people I have encountered that had reached retirement ages were not happy, rather they were very troubled and why is that? I have often encountered very troubled persons in Hospitals, old age homes.. even people in torment as well..

An elderly person was sitting on a chair next to his hospital bed when he started to scream loudly, continually.. at least 5 nurses and orderlies came running to him asking what was wrong with him.. he replied he was seeing hell, and he was a catholic at that..

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Luke 12:15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
Luke 12:16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
Luke 12:17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
Luke 12:18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
Luke 12:19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
Luke 12:20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
Luke 12:21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

(Mat 8:29 KJV) And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

(Mark 5:7 KJV) And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

(1 John 4:18 KJV) There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

(Rev 9:5 KJV) And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

(Rev 14:11 KJV) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

(Rev 18:7 KJV) How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

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The reality is that because of the death of Jesus Christ on the cross the New Covenant next  replaces the Mosaic Covenant, which is commonly referred to as the “Old Covenant”.All of the The early Christian theologians saw the New Covenant in Christ as a replacement for the Mosaic Covenant for most of the last hundreds of years.
(Matthew 21:33-45), addressed Israel, the Jews of that time, “the chief priests and the Pharisees”,  “‘When therefore the lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those farmers?’ They told him, ‘He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will lease out the vineyard to other farmers, who will give him the fruit in its season.”
Romans 2:28-29: “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God.”
Romans 3:29-31: “Or is God the God of Jews only? Isn’t he the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith, and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then nullify the law through faith? May it never be! No, we establish the law.”
Romans 9:6-8: “But it is not as though the word of God has come to nothing. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel. Neither, because they are Abraham’s seed, are they all children. But, ‘In Isaac will your seed be called.’ That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed.”
Romans 10:12-13: “For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich to all who call on him. For, ‘Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Galatians 3:29: “If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to promise.”
Ephesians 2:11-22, especially Ephesians 2:14: “For he [Jesus] is our peace, who made both [Jews and Gentiles] one, and broke down the middle wall of partition .
 
Only Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6) and that  there is no other salvation but through him. The saints are described in Revelation as those who “hold to the testimony of Jesus.” ((Rev 12:17 KJV)  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.)  Mat 7:13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:  27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
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Now because of the devil  not surprisingly many pridefull people still do try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT  I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT  only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man.
AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/
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That now also  includes too many bad Dispensationalists , Plymouth Brethren persons

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/from-god-alone-comes-all-of-my-salvations/

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Jesus said a good tree brings forth good fruits, you can tell what a tree is like by the fruit it brings forth.. the Plymouth Church group is known for it’s many bad fruits today..

 It is ironic that one of my first evangelical, fundamental pastors who for most of his life opposed the Pentecostal, next when he was told he had a brain tumor, he went to the local Pentecostal church and they prayed for him there and he was undeniably healed AND NO LONGER OPPOSED THEM TOO.

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THEIR TOO OFTEN FALSE BASH OF PENTECOSTALS HEALERS IS DEVIL INSPIRED.

It is very clear that the much too many false Critics of the Pentecostals will try to grasp at any straws to falsely bash the Pentecostal and still try to justify their own immoral acts.. they even falsely claim to be experts on speaking in tongues even though they themslves now still cannot speak in tongues too.

THE WAY THEY THE FUNDAMENTALS, EVANGELICALS, DISPENSATIONALISTS, PLYMOUTH BRETHREN THEY DO UNDENIABLY CONDEMNING POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, IN A UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO. All very revealing as to what they are firstly like themselves..

THEY ARE THE UNDENIABLY UNLOVING PERSONS WHO CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,   NEVER MIND THE GIFTS.

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TOO MANY PERSONS EVN IN THE CHURCH ARE STILL PROMTING THE KINGDOM OF SELF..  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/god-still-speaks-outside-of-the-bible-as-well/

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Why is it so many people falsely still do  try too limit the power of God, and they work so hard to try to tell us as to what God can and cannot do today..  and for sure, definitely it is not only cause they are spiritually immature, they do have a hidden agenda, working hard at  promoting themselves, or they now  are mere sheep, unoriginal parrots who repeat what others have said , but it is often still mainly because Satan himself now and for sure is behind all this too.

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new, not  even to the past 12 apostles, major prophets , and to Jesus Christ himself all these persons who had face many similar bullies, groups etc., for the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and he does try to continually discredit any work of God, even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too, even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and innappropriate Bible verses now too.

I also would not take any criticism even seriously by any persons who they admittedly even admit they are opposed to all of the charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the same persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now as having received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly,   confirmed by the speaking of tongues also,  especially when also they themselves have not attended any of the Pentecostal meetings, or the meetings  of  any  of the latter rain churches.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/

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 For a very very long time  sadly the infighting amongst various Christian churches seems to continue as each one tries to prove it is the greatests in the kingdom of heaven? https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/the-need-of-one-distancing-their-good-works-from-their-evil-ones/

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THE SINGLE MOST POPULAR QUESTION ON THE INTERNET GIVEN TO A CHRISTIAN PASTOR OR A PRIEST now is can I get a divorce? The question firstly is not rather what are the main causes of divorces even such as  laziness, unrealistic expectations, sexual lusts or lust for more money, materialism.
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There are much too many typical Professing Christians now , Fundamental, Plymouth Dispensational Brethren, and whether they are open or closed Brethren, that are deceitful .. for they are also those persons who do do still falsely and too often substitute next their own men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s, and while the one Bible opposes divorce for Christian persons, the Plymouth Brethren undeniably do often even encourage the divorce of any spouse, Christian or not, who does not heed to the full brethren doctrines, for solely according to them the wife does not need to listen to her husband in anything even from the same the husband who was to be the head of the home if he does not jump at their command.. Not only the Brethren, but even bad Fundamental, Pentecostal, bad Baptist pastors also falsely now do this as well to try to maintain a full, crooked control and economic grasp over their religious empire.. The poor wife who is seduced by these bad pastors is surely headed for a severe downfall next ..

 

Divorce also clearly is still  is not a valid teaching, doctrine of  of the Christian church  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/

 

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren undeniably also as I too have witnessed do now go behind the husbands back and will even encourage the wife to divorce her husband cause he is not a true Plymouth Dispensational Brethren all contrary to the Bible.

It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers  too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever. (Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

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Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
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“Unfortunately most religious leaders today seem to be hirelings and not true shepherds! All they care about is their own ministry and self interests and not the best interest of the sheep! The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included.
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And it is not all just about getting and keeping more money, the Church management , the pastoral thefts, misappropriation of funds is it? It is basically the perverse pastoral managerial styles of the churches leaders , and their lies,  false disclosures, their lack of accountability too, but it is much more, it is about their false intereference into one’s home, personal marriages to enlarge the relgious empires at any costs it seems.  
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Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
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Too many  Catholic and evangelical Pastors tend to think they are very special, unaccountable to anyone but God and thus they FALSELY ARE very arrogant too. Those who sin rebuke before all and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke as well.Pastors do too often falsely think they are above the laws of the country  and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many past personal encounters experiences Canada wide too that I had , but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby, Jesus,  with the dirty wash water. Rather next I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead.. 1/12 only did. There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any persons or any    the Pentecostal Christians  for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net.  So I do not.
  
In reality too many people unsupervised, left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully ofteneven arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family or Church are still a reality too.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/reality.html
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The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.
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It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill. 
Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well. I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too.
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As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinkings? The husband .

Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-church-pentecostal-dispute/

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FOR WE ALL TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.
 
Yes, the Bad pastors, bad elders,  continue to exist  cause likely their supporters are  also now bad too. Many people write half truths, these half truths still do not make liars into honest men..
  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
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No such thing as a little bit abuse or a little bit pregant, they are all crooked to the core here too. They are they persons who have falsely abolished God’s Bible orders, commands for their own hopeful, personal gains.. and they now are counted as the least in the kingdom of heaven, and  rightfully too or the still lost souls. 

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(Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.

For a  bishop   must be blameless, (1 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

(1 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

1 Cor 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1 Cor 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1 Cor 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

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The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren tend to be in major cities still composed of WASP- white, Anglo Saxon, protestants  and the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren say that “We teach that all who place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual body, the church” is a lie for too many many real Christians still are immediately rejected, shut out of the brethren church , excluded for not being dispensationalist.

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The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren also undeniable practice personal character assassination, slander, human rights abuse when they often do openly make a claim that anyone, any Christian who is a Pentecostal is an emotional, mentally disturbed individual as I have often witnessed myself as well.. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsely to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not!

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Plymouth Dispensational Brethren it seems they like to hide from what they really are and teach.”While they the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren too often hide who they are by making the statement they are Christians, they certainly are not true Christians and for century have not been accepted by the major Christian churches.The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren to me rightfully are the wolves in sheep clothing, the false brethren who crept in amongst us falsely saying they are Christians.. they are a new group at it too.. since they started only in the 1800.. It would be rather generally accurate to say that they are racists, sectarian, divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders too.. and anyone does not heed to dispensational teach is evil, Ch Spurgeoen, Rev George Muellar, me included ehh “

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There are too many false Christian brethren in the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren even falsely like to lump as one, wolves in sheep clothing, persons like Judas the apostle was false

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A MAN’S HOME IS HIS CASTLE – “This saying is as old as the basic concepts of English common law.,”A proverbial expression that illustrates the principle of individual privacy, which is fundamental to the privacy, justice system as well. “You are the boss in your own house and nobody can tell you what to do there. No one can enter your home without your permission. The proverb has been traced back ‘Stage of Popish Toys’ . In 1644, English jurist Sir Edward Coke (1552-1634) was quoted as saying: ‘For a man’s house is his castle, et domus sua cuique tutissimum refugium’ (‘One’s home is the safest refuge for all’). http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/weird-judge-overturns-mans-last-will-and-testament/

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Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.

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What does scripture teach? Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? (1 Cor. 1: 10-13)

and yet the brethren themselves do often cause, practice, and have divisions amongst themselves from the start even.. one of the first being the dispensational brethren Rev George Muellar rejected many of their teachings.

So the same Jesus will say to them I never knew you (Mat 7:22 KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

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Over 3 decades ago I wrote to John F Walwood, to which he had also replied and I said he was a liar for the Bible did not support his dispensational false teaching, and to this date I have been fully right, Today to him and his similar supporters, the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren I do still rightfully say the same thing too. They are still liars.

do see also

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

and me telling the truth about the Brethren is not bitterness, unlawful,  but real honesty for even a doctor tells negative truths.

.. get real

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