In fairness now

 
 Finding out the facts, discovering the truth.
 
Firstly no one can accuse me now  of false partialities, hypocrisies, generalizations for I rightfully detail and  I expose all bad churches even the Bad Pentecostal ones, Bad Baptist One, Bad Christian Missionary Alliance, and bad Plymouth Brethren dispensational ones.. 
 
As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  (Prov 31:8 KJV)  “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9    Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.  
 

 

(John 4:23 KJV)  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
 
(John 4:24 KJV)  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
 
Many people claim to be willing to help you. too often with questionable motives too,   but basically in reality you still have to do it for yourself, you have to discover the truth yourself, it takes real work, being lazy will often lead you to misdirection’s, even into cults, and many have now as well. Sincerity itself is not any kind of protection against being duped, deceived.  The Bible itself warns us Beware of men, next Cursed be he or she that puts their trust in any man.. The Church, the Assembly  itself does not save you, Jesus alone does.
 
(2 Cor 11:14 KJV)  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15   Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
You do not need any others, for you have all the tools you need.. you have at your disposal the Bible, and prayer.. just pray and ask the Holy Sprit himself to guide and lead you into all truth as you read the Bible.. it is as simple as that.
 
Too many false persons try to define God solely based on their own limited personal experiences, knowledge, and if it did not happen to them it cannot happen to anyone else…   and too many even  lie and say they are experts on something they admit they have never even experienced now too… such as healings, gifts of the Spirit… they are mere pretenders rather too often still.              

 

 

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Follow after God alone . God speaks too .       
The word of God is living and active, it penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit.., it judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12
 
it does not need a man written books about 200 years ago to speak for it too..
 
My sheep hear My voice,   and I know them,  and they follow Me.  John 10:27
Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat4:4 (There is no life without hearing words from the mouth of God.)
 
But we have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear. Where is the basic Problem in doing so now? In seeking God directly? for I too after sitting under the mostly  bad evangelical pastors, hirelings,  for 3 decades, the next 3 decades I had seen that almost all of of my beliefs were false, unbiblical, the mere teachings of man, unsubstantiated by the Bible itself.
 
These days Finding a qualified shepherd is hard.. I have yet  to find a really good one in the last  5 decades..  I have rightfully fired many of them for lying, slandering, adultery though already.. even helped to close one big really bad church, the Calgary Christian Center..
http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST
 
Finding a decent, viable, non cultural, non heretical, non sectarian, non polluted Church these days is also too often also hard. Mind you you have to keep on looking for it. Many claim they are good, like they lip service God they love him too, with mere words.
 
I have also dealt with  the Alliance Churches,  Calgary Christian center,  Evangelical Missionary Church,  United Church   , Full Gospel Churches,  Baptist Churches, Evangelical Free, Victory Christian Fellowship,   First Assembly (Pentecostal), Salvation Army,   Don Ross Ministries and the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship; to name a few.  And you should let another man praise you and not yourself.. I moved to Calgary at the age of 35 in 1980 and I had been a Christian  for 20 years before that and for the next 15 years I in contrast could not find one decent honest Christian Pastor or Church in Calgary, in my witness they were all bunch of racists, social clubs, adulterers, liars, slanderers, gossipers, thieves, rich minded persons who despised the poor people etc.., Calgary was the third  most unspiritual place I have been to in Canada
 
(2 Chr 16:9 KJV)  For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.
(Prov 16:5 KJV)  Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
(Prov 23:7 KJV)  For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
(Isa 51:7 KJV)  Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.
(Mat 15:8 KJV)  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Persons who want to uplift their denominations, leaders, mere men, exalt themselves are still false..
(Acts 8:21 KJV)  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.

 
My clear rightful understanding of Plymouth Brethren is while they may have a few aspects of truth, in whole they are generally false, not true to the Bible… basically a sect, a Darby, Scofield cult.
 
The Plymouth Brethren movement was, is an independent work from that of the Holy Spirit, in which which  Brethren believe that they now represent the true church established originally on the day of Pentecost. The two guiding principles of the movement were to be the breaking of bread every Lord’s Day, and ministry based upon the call of Christ rather than the ordination of men. They say  they follow and obey the Scripture, refusing to follow human tradition and creed.   Ironically they just put their own creeds, beliefs as substitute based on the writings of their own  leaders, yes more mere men.  While the Others still tend to  call them Brethren, but they prefer to hide and to be called Christians, they not not like the truth of who they really are exposed fro who in his rigth mind now would follow after them too?
 
The Brethren claim seek to assemble in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and to maintain the apostolic pattern and simplicity which marked the churches of the days of the apostles all that while the falsely deny the existence of the Apostle’s prophets, healing today and the charismatic gifts of the Holy spirit now too. How dirtied can they get next?
 
The Plymouth brethren are  part of one big happy Christian family? Nothing could be further from the truth.  For  they are rather an exclusive club opposed to Charismatics gifts, Healings. Casting out demons too it seems. I was also surprised how little they do like to talk about their owns sins, only the sin of others. The sin of not being a full part of their exclusive club.
 
The Exclusive Brethren believe in receiving no one at the Lord’s table who is not a true Christian in the fullest sense, including being a member of a fully separated assembly (an assembly of Brethren who associate only with Brethren and not with persons from other churches. It seems they too find it easier to hate others than to love them.
 
 Dispensationalists are also rightfully  accused of teaching different methods of salvation, different standards requirements too  in their different defined dispensations periods
 
The Law was a curse, Gal 3:13, and Christ redeemed us from it.  Does not exclude  their too often sins, unloving, unchristlike behaviors, even towards others.  They  too often  seems to still need to find real personal repentances from Sin.
 
  While the Brethren say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too  clearly do have this unholy, desperate need to reinterpret almost every passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking.  
 
I urge you read your Bible, and to find a true and not a pretending Bible teaching local church, if you are not in one, and if you absolutely cannot find one, start one yourself. A New Testament Church can be as small as two or three people, and Jesus is always there, because He hopefully  lives in His people (John 14:23   ; Eph. 1:13 – 14). 
 
  Plymouth Brethren Dispensationalist are noted not for using the Holy spirit to personally guide and lead THEM  and  you into all truth, but the supposed Greek versions of the Bible, Men’s commentaries, their selected reading materials too.. 
 
SUCH AS
 
Resources to Help You Find “Insights from the New Testament Greek” for Yourself: Even if you don’t know a word of Greek, but just get a Strong’s Concordance and a Greek-English New Testament Interlinear and feel  like an expert at least..
 
Commentaries: And if you do not like what you read. write your own commentary, for  many other dispensational Brethren  do that.. and join the club here too
 
Historical, Cultural, Archeological resources”- such as Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews  .. even though we all can now you can’t really find any accurate, detailed ones.. so that will help you to get really confused, lost. Or is that the real point?
 
The Jewish interpretation of history refers to the “first Temple period,” which was the period of time before the destruction of Jerusalem in 600 BC. The temple was destroyed and the Jews were uprooted out of the land for their apostasy and idolatry, they had blended Babylonian witchcraft and sorcery into their religion. They were carried away, eventually a remnant returned during the “second Temple period” when they rebuilt the temple during the times of Ezra and Nehemiah. The second Temple period lasted until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
 
According to the Jews there is an ongoing restoration where they are being restored back with God in the promised land, known as the Zionist restoration. They look forward to the Kingdom, the time when they will rule the world. Every Gentile will be their slave. They believe the Bible teaches this, the rabbis teach the same in their Talmud and Kabbalah. But the New testament, Jesus, the Apostle do not teach this at all. Wow
 
Still the “basic promise of  Dispensationalism is (the supposed) two purposes of God expressed in the formation of two peoples (Jews and gentiles, or Israel and the Church)  who maintain their distinction throughout eternity.”  (This approach would thus not offend the unrepentant Jews but it is still an unbiblical great hoax, a lie)
 
 In direct contrast, Christian theology has always maintained the essential continuity of Israel and the church. The elect of all the ages are seen as one people, with one Savior, one destiny.  This continuity can be shown by examining a few Old Testament prophesies with their fulfillment. Dispensationalists admit that if the church can be shown to be fulfilling promises made to Israel their system is doomed. If the church is fulfilling Israel’s promises as contained in the new covenant or anywhere in the Scriptures, then [dispensational] premillennialism is condemned.
 
“My brother, I am a constant reader of my Bible, and I soon found that what I was taught to believe (by Darby’s doctrine) did not always agree with what my Bible said. I came to see that I must either part company with John Darby, or my precious Bible, and I chose to cling to my Bible and part from Mr. Darby.” – Reverend George Müeller, a contemporary and  past supporter of Darby  http://dispensationalismrefuted.blogspot.com/
 
“Perhaps one of the greatest heresies of our day arises from a theological ignorance with respect to the Bible’s teaching on sanctification. While .. Many (Falsely) simply operate under the assumption that obedience, repentance, love for God’s law, and mortification of sin are unnecessary addendums to true faith,  reserved for a special class of “spiritual Christians”, yet still optional for those “carnal Christians” who embrace Christ as Savior but refuse Him as Lord.   How does (anyone,) Ryrie respond to the New Testament texts, especially in the gospels, which so obviously teach that both a change of mind and heart are necessary consequences of justifying faith? … While inconsistent dispensationalists can and do believe in the necessity of repentance, the logical conclusions of classic dispensationalism yield the kind of devastating errors which sees faith as nothing more than a change of mind with regards to the facts of the gospel.  ”  http://covenantgrace.blogspot.com/2008/02/some-of-puritans-believed-that.html
 
Ongoing continual personal repentance  for sins  is not optional.. but a necessary subjection
 
 (1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 
 
(Heb 12:9 KJV)  Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
 
(Eph 5:24 KJV)  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
 
(1 Pet 3:1 KJV)  Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;  (1 Pet 3:5 KJV)  For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:    

Dispensationalism is a system of theology that was first popularized by John Nelson Darby, 19th century British evangelist and forerunner of modern Christian fundamentalism.   The false  Scofield Reference Bible, written by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, popularized dispensationalism in the United States.  The world’s Jews must return to Israel for a dispensational interpretation of prophecy to be fulfilled. To facilitate that process, dispensationalists have been leading groups of pilgrims to Israel since Falwell’s first visit in order to win financial and political support for settlement activity. http://www.theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism_dispensationalism.htm
 
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the  doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus  Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the  simple.” -Romans 16:17-18 KJV  
 
“Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it  necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all  delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out  for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the  only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” -Jude 1:3-4
 
The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is still also unacceptable
 
The Brethren  oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit.
 
“But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8.
 
“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3):  For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV)  Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV)  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
     
 Dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world,  now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and   as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they  have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, lie against the Pentecostals Christians too even in envy it seems cause they  the Pentecostals undeniably are it seems one of the fastest growing group today  in Christianity. These abusive, immoral rather  Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only,  are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too..  The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted  and not accepted by main stream Christianity too.
  
 
DISPENSATIONALISM , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY  BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS  NOW TOO, IS A LIAR’S, A  COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S  FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL  OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING FROM THE JEWS AS WELL BY NOT ASKING THEM TO REPENT, OR TO SEE THEIR NEED OF ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR MESSIAH, SAVIOR. 
 
Imagine trying to build a whole theological central base  on a few isolated Bible texts too now and  now today, even Jacob and the Brethren too, so he Jacob – Israel who tried to get God’s blessing by deceit with the help of others is still at it today, refusing to admit that the blessings of God now, today, forever are only in, and  through Jesus Christ the Messiah, he is trying to steal his own salvation and the promsied land now.
 
(Gen 27:19 KJV)  And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me.
 
 The dispensationalist’s claims  implicitly does involve  them, God in duplicity and Christ in deception and thus no way can they be acceptable works of any REAL, professing Christians
 
Some persons  recognize and treasure all born again believers who operate within a dispensational framework as brothers and sisters in Christ. whereas IN FACT IN ANY CHURCH IT SEEMS ONLY 30 PERCENT OF THE PERSONS AT THE MOST ARE REAL, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, ESPECIALLY IN THE BRETHREN CHURCHES TOO

 (John 8:51 KJV)  Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

 
Note the word IF.. all contracts require the continual, ongoing consent, agreement of both parties otherwise it is a false breach of contract.. so why have some groups falsely now left it out?
However, we must remember that Paul loved his fellow apostle Peter and esteemed him the senior and more honored of the two of them. Nevertheless, when it came to a point of theology that had profound implications for the purity and health of the Church, Paul was constrained by his love for Christ and the Truth publicly to withstand Peter to his face. (Galatians 2:11) 

 

Therefore,  out of love  Like the Bereans nearly two thousand years ago, let us “search the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things are so.”    

 

 

 

“A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth”  (Proverbs 14:6)
thenonconformer

http://cid-74fd848f21ffb8e9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Christian%20Literature/Plymouth.Brethren.Dispensationalists.htm

 

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/lies-slander-personal-defamation-on-the-net-be-warned/
http://www.endtime-truth.com/articles4.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html    

http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html   
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Meditating%20on%20the%20Lord.htm
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/articles.htm

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/ 

http://www.upwardcall.net/rapture.html 

 http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

 

 

 

Relgion.. Finding out the facts, discovering the truth

 

 
 
 Are any of you, Pastors, elders,  now claiming to be a better teacher, guide than the Holy Spirit himself?
 
(John 4:23 KJV)  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
 
(John 4:24 KJV)  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
 
Many people claim to be willing to help you. too often with questionable motives too,   but basically in reality you still have to do it for yourself, you have to discover the truth yourself, it takes real work, being lazy will often lead you to misdirection’s, even into cults, and many have now as well. Sincerity itself is not any kind of protection against being duped, deceived.
 
The Bible itself warns us Beware of men, next Cursed be he or she that puts their trust in any man.. The Church, the Assembly  itself does not save you, Jesus alone does.
 
(2 Cor 11:14 KJV)  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 
(2 Cor 11:15 KJV)  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
(Mat 7:13 KJV)  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
 
(2 Tim 2:15 KJV)  Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
You do not need any others, for you have all the tools you need.. you have at your disposal the Bible, and prayer.. just pray and ask the Holy Sprit himself to guide and lead you into all truth as you read the Bible.. it is as simple as that.
 
Too many false persons try to define God solely based on their own limited personal experiences, knowledge, and if it did not happen to them it cannot happen to anyone else…  
 
and too many even  lie and say they are experts on something they admit they have never even experienced now too… such as healings, gifts of the Spirit… they are mere pretenders rather too often still.         
  
 I also came to the conclusion that the King James Bible is the best version available in the English language today for Bible study, easy reference too. The Bible publishing world is presently involved in a high stakes monetary race to come out with, so called, “newer and better” versions of the English Bible. And, what is their motive? There are countless versions of the English Bible on store shelves today. Is the English language changing so fast that we need a newer translation than the one that came out last month or last year? I think not. They seem to like to push  a different doctrine, and have just as many errors next  it seems as they one they had originally claimed to try to correct. 

I also do believe that God inspired the original writings of the Bible, which are called the autographa. There are many verses that teach this. Here are two key verses that I want you to see.
 
The more important Question is, do you and I really believe it is the word of God or are you looking for another Bible  translation to justify some of your immoral acts, and/or wrong beliefs still too?
Follow after God alone . God speaks too .       
The word of God is living and active, it penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit.., it judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12
 
it does not need a man written books about 200 years ago to speak for it too..
My sheep hear My voice,   and I know them,  and they follow Me.  John 10:27
Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat4:4 (There is no life without hearing words from the mouth of God.)
(Luke 10:21 KJV)  In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

(John 4:23 KJV)  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
(John 4:24 KJV)  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

 

 

 

 

As a pastor myself I can for sure also say that only 70 percent of the evangelical pastors are crooked, sex maniacs, adulterous, liars, thieves, gossipers, slanderers, counsel divorce, commit tax evasions too so anyone looking for  a good pastor is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I prefer to talk to Jesus directly thus.
Finding a decent, viable, non cultural, non heretical, non sectarian, non polluted Church these days is also too often also hard. Mind you you have to keep on looking for it. Many claim they are good, like they lip service God they love him too, with mere words.
(2 Chr 16:9 KJV)  For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him
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(Prov 16:5 KJV)  Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
(Prov 23:7 KJV)  For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.

(Isa 51:7 KJV)  Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.
(Jer 17:9 KJV)  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
(Mat 13:15 KJV)  For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
(Mat 15:8 KJV)  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Persons who want to uplift their denominations, leaders, mere men, exalt themselves are still false..
(Acts 8:21 KJV)  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.

These days Finding a qualified shepherd is hard.. I have yet  to find a really good one in the last  5 decades..  I have rightfully fired many of them for lying, slandering, adultery though already.. even helped to close one big really bad church, the Calgary Christian Center.. http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST
 

But we have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear. Where is the basic Problem in doing so now? In seeking God directly? for I too after sitting under the mostly  bad evangelical pastors, hirelings,  for 3 decades, the next 3 decades I had seen that almost all of of my beliefs were false, unbiblical, the mere teachings of man, unsubstantiated by the Bible itself.

2 Peter 1:20-21 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation (that is, they did not originate with man). 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”

2 Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”

But, there is also the matter of verbal preservation of the apographa (copies of the originals). I believe that God has preserved His Words in the copies of those original writings in the Hebrew Masoretic Text of the Old Testament and the Traditional Text (Textus Receptus) of the New Testament.

Divine Revelation pluThere are four passages which teach the preservation of the Bible. In the first passage, Isaiah wrote, “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever” (Isaiah 40:8). In the second passage, the Psalmist wrote, “The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever” (Psalms 12:6-7). In the third passage, Peter wrote, “But the Word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you” (1st Peter 1:25). In the fourth passage, Jesus said, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away” (Matthew 24:35). The Bible teaches clearly the preservation of the Scriptures.s Divine Inspiration plus Divine Preservation equals the Divine Bible. The Divine Revelation, put into writing the verbally Infallible Scriptures through Divine Inspiration, must have Divine Preservation in order to be available to all generations. . Psalm 12:6-7  KJV reads: The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.  “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Rom 11:17). “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him” (Heb 11:6). Do not trust in the weak words of fallible men; but in the very powerful and ever perfect words of the Holy Scriptures, infallible and inerrant, 100% inspired and 100% preserved by its almighty Author—the Lord Jesus Christ—who is “the same yesterday, today and for ever” (Heb 13:8). We have an immutable God who has given to us an indestructible Word.

Psalms 33:11 “The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations. 

I too do have FAITH that the God who inspired the original autographs can and did preserve the apographs so that we can say, “Thus saith the Lord; This IS the Word of God” when we hold up our King James Bibles.

 

 

 

Now once again faith even comes mainly by hearing the word of God… not mere man’s words.. God uses his words in the Bible to speak to you by His Holy Spirit as well.. let him.. read the Bible daily prayerfully.

Cadbury and others recall chocolates, cookies, pretzels

 

FDA Detains Chinese Imports for Testing
New York Times – Nov 13, 2008
By GARDINER HARRIS and ANDREW MARTIN Candy, snacks, bakery products, pet food and other Chinese products that contain milk will be detained at the border until tests prove that they are not contaminated, the federal government announced Thursday.
US Blocks Chinese Milk Products Washington Post
US seizes Chinese dairy food China Daily
That Happened! – BBC News – Chicago Tribune – East Texas Review
all 559 news articles »
 
Melamine is sometimes illegally added to food products in order to increase the apparent protein content. Manufacturers knowingly and intentionally mix Melamine, which has some rather nasty ingredients, in our milk. To mix this product, they needed the use of formaldehyde, which is a very toxic and nasty ingredient in itself. Where has the integrity of our products gone? It seems like in the venture of profit many companies will trick and deceive customers into believing whatever they are ingesting is good for them. One important matter though is that, it is not only China who is doing such acts. Many companies everywhere are also putting toxic ingredients in our food and beverages without exactly telling us about it. http://augustafreepress.com/2008/10/13/haresh-daswani-watching-what-you-eat/
  

Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 02:17:00 09/30/2008 MANILA, Philippines—Cadbury chocolates  have been removed from shelves in Hong Kong after tests “cast doubt” on their safety. British chocolate maker Cadbury on Monday became the latest foreign company to be hit by China’s tainted milk scandal, ordering a recall of its Chinese-made products.  In Manila, the Department of Health Monday announced that it was expanding the list of banned milk and milk products to include those not necessarily manufactured in China, but were using milk-based ingredients coming from that country. We will make sure that the list will be forthcoming and this will be longer each day,” Health Secretary Francisco Duque III told lawmakers at the House subcommittee hearing on his agency’s proposed budget for 2009.  Cadbury said in a statement issued by its Singapore office Monday that tests had “cast doubt on the integrity of a range of our products manufactured in China.” t was not immediately clear whether the tests established the presence of the industrial chemical melamine. But Cadbury said it had recalled 11 chocolate products made at its factory in Beijing, which were distributed in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Australia. Hong Kong’s government ordered that the chocolates be immediately removed from shelves. China’s recent food safety scandal started with the discovery of melamine in baby milk powder. Four deaths have been blamed on melamine-laced milk, and some 54,000 children have developed kidney stones or other illnesses after drinking the contaminated baby formula.

Two US food makers were, meanwhile, investigating Indonesian claims that high traces of melamine had been found in Chinese-made Oreos, M&Ms and Snickers, but stressed the same goods had tested negative in other Asian countries.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20080930-163674/Cadbury-recalls-its-chocolates

CFIA recalls cookies because of tainted milk scandal in China
The Canadian Press – 10 hours ago
OTTAWA – The Canadian Food Inspection Agency recall of Chinese products linked to the tainted milk scandal in China continued Tuesday.
Keeping our food safe The Gazette (Montreal)
Chinese cookies recalled over melamine fears National Post
United Press International
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Made-in-China pretzels recalled in Ontario
Canada.com – 4 hours ago
Two varieties of coated pretzels made in China have been taken off of Ontario store shelves after testing positive for the harmful chemical compound melamine.
Consumers grow warier Toronto Sun
CFIA recalls cookies because of tainted milk scandal in China The Canadian Press
Toronto Star – United Press International – The Gazette (Montreal) – 680 News
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Republicans and the Democrats give social welfare to rich persons

 

 

The vote against the measure was 228 to 205, with 133 Republicans joining 95 Democrats in opposition. The bill was backed by 140 Democrats and 65 Republicans.

Supporters vowed to try to bring the rescue package up for consideration again as soon as possible, perhaps late Wednesday or Thursday, but there were no definite plans to do so.

“Ronald Reagan is back, and he is you Friends, conservatives often complain that no one has ever risen to take the place of Ronald Reagan in our government. But Ronald Reagan is back, and he is you! His spirit has never once left us. His spirit was alive and well when you stood up last year and opposed the bipartisan amnesty bill that you knew the Gipper wouldn’t approve. He was here again today in our Congress during the vote that failed to pass a bill that would have made slaves of every one of us and ended free market capitalism forever in the USA. Fox News said legislators received 999 calls out of 1,000 opposing the bailout. Fox commentators didn’t look too happy about that and the results of today’s vote. I imagine many of them, like Neil Cavuto, are heavily invested in stocks. (Isn’t it interesting that, although almost 100% of us oppose the bailout, Fox News continues to drone on about how important it is for the taxpayer to foot the bills for the crooks in government. Looks like conservatives have broken with their task master). I realize that the stock market does not like this, but look, I have stock too, and I know that if we show these lazy pandering politicians we won’t let them enslave us, our children will grow up in a better, safer world.  “http://laiglesforum.com/2008/09/29/ronald-reagan-is-back-and-he-is-you/

 

 

 

 

 

Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Federal Conservative Party of Canada

   A Conservative loser is still a big loser 
No diffference between a bad lieberal and a bad Conservative now too
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty joined   brewery manager Colin O’Brien, and supply director Paul Armstrong at the Guinness brew house. http://www.canada.com/Stephen+Harper+Irish+adventures/8532787/story.htmlharper_guiness 

Fundamentals evangelists have been proven right, Alcohol is dangerous, leads also to cancer. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/

 

1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your  adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may  devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions  are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.10 But the God of all  grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye  have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 11 To  him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

The CANADIAN conservative federal government itself rarely it seems takes the proper lead, leadership now too. Prime Minister Stephen  Harper has never formed a majority government yet Canada’s prime Minister himself Stephen  Harper,  Harper has been drooling for his majority now for many  years, the leader claims to have a majority government and he now disregards the majority of the Members of Parliament, and the citizens of Canada’s wishes, desires too,  he is still  running his minority Parliament as if he were the leader of a majority, tends to bury religious beliefs to win a hopeful real majority government not surprisingly thus  failed again in an attempt to  win a majority government.  As we are well aware, mo one is are not going to form a majority federal government with the majority support of the citizens of both Quebec and Ontario also now. You next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding by failing to look after the good welfare of all the citizens of Canada. Beating on minorities really doesn’t make a majority government more possible.  A bad Conservative for many in Canada  is just as disgusting as a bad Lieberal. You can really tell as to how bad they are firstly by how they respond to the citizens letters mailed  to them as well.
 
Someone representing the  Conservative Party of Canada came to my home, note to my home, and said to me he was here to get me to vote for Stephen Harper and the Conservatives. He next had refused to answer any of my questions firstly.  I had asked him if it was true that Stephen Harper gave bottles of wine and wine glasses to the Prime Minister of Australia. I asked him also if he Stephen Harper professes to be an evangelical Christian of the Christian Missionary Alliance Church now too? No answer. I asked him how could a born again professing evangelical like Stephen Harper be giving out alcohol to others when it is clearly a historical, general, accepted biblical fact that fundamental evangelicals are abstainers and do not drink wine, alcohol now? The Canadian federal Conservative Party supporter he lied and said that what I said about Stephen Harper was not true. Stephen Harper was good person. The Conservative party supporter he next started to lecture me as to how and what I there could and could not talk about now to him . I next told him that he was standing on my property falsely lecturing me, dictating to me  as to what I cannot  talk about, what I cannot do even in my own home,  dream on! I asked him directly was  he now also   another despotic dictator like the established fact, behavior of the prime minister of Canada, Stephen Harper. He the  clearly red necked Conservative party supporter then turned red with embracement and rudely said he has to leave and immediately departed with his tail between his legs without still  answering one question of mine to him too.  He the Conservative party supporter wants me to support this bad political Conservative party now when I see firsthand how he  even lies, abused me in my own home too? Dream on.
3 of my neighbors I had talked with directly today said they would vote for none of the parties for they are all equally bad, even those who had voted Conservative before too 
 
 
Needless to say the Conservatives lost heavily in my riding and rightfully so..
 

PM Stephen Harper’s province…
Booze, gambling revenues now worth more than gas royalties to Stelmach government
http://ourcanadiancontent.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/booze-gambling-revenues-now-worth-more-than-gas-royalties-to-stelmach-government 
  
 
        
 
 
Control freaks Conservatives .. ‘Keep them out!’ Mounties stop media from asking Tory questions
OTTAWA — It’s a blurry, democratically dangerous no-man’s-land that governments and RCMP spokespeople do not like to publicly explore. The line between legitimate RCMP security duties and the media management imperatives of a politically sensitive Prime Minister’s Office appeared to be scuffed once again this week on the election trail. Mounties protecting Prime Minister Stephen Harper during a campaign event in Surrey, B.C., were ordered Tuesday evening to stop reporters from approaching a high-profile Tory candidate. “Keep them out,” Harper aide Ray Novak shouted at the RCMP security detail as journalists approached Dona Cadman. CTV’s Rosemary Thompson was literally yanked aside by one Mountie as she approached the retreating group – which did not include the prime minister.
Cadman, a Conservative candidate, is famous for sparking bribery allegations against her party by telling a journalist last year that her dying husband, former Reform and Independent MP Chuck Cadman, claimed to have been offered a million-dollar insurance policy to change his vote in Parliament. It’s an unresolved storyline the Conservatives, understandably, don’t want pursued during an election campaign. Cadman, who has dodged questions from the national media before in the campaign, told a local community newspaper Wednesday she’s concentrating on her own back yard. “We’re talking to the local media, which is much more important than going national or regional,” she said. The incident followed an earlier episode in the campaign’s first week when the RCMP was employed to thwart a CTV camera crew in St. Eustache, Que., on the day the Tories suspended campaign spokesman Ryan Sparrow. “I want that camera out of there,” Harper spokeswoman Carolyn Stewart Olsen told a Mountie, who somewhat apologetically obliged. But is it within the RCMP’s mandate to stop the media from doing its job?
 Several officers matter-of-factly said they were acting on orders from the PMO – although the official RCMP line, delivered after the incident became a major media story, was that hotel management sought the eviction. Many on Parliament Hill believe the PMO’s use of RCMP security to thwart reporters has increased under a Harper government that is obsessed with communications control. Stories abound, for instance, of security officers stopping camera cut-away shots from non-PMO-approved positions. But the most infamous case of RCMP deploying its resources for essentially communications reasons came under the watch of former Liberal prime minister Jean Chretien at the 1997 APEC summit in Vancouver. An inquiry into the pepper-spraying of protesters concluded that the Mounties had “succumbed to government influence and intrusion in an area where such influence and intrusion were inappropriate.” Testimony at the inquiry suggested government officials were consumed with the poor optics of large demonstrations. “By whatever educational or other communications means available, the RCMP must instill in its officers … that they are to brook no intrusion or interference whatever from government officials,” inquiry commissioner Ted Hughes concluded. It would appear to be an inquiry forgotten not just by the Mounties and current government, but by the Liberals in opposition.
The Liberal campaign war-room issued a news release Wednesday decrying Tory heavy-handedness. “The job of the RCMP is not to prevent the Conservative party from being embarrassed,” said the Liberal party release. “They are there to protect the prime minister against genuine physical threats and they should never be used as a political tool.” http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g6YesTXAYfsanGLSDxXgDxHF_vWw
We already know what a liar, dictator, control freak  the PM is..

Seems he wants power so much he sells even his soul to the Devil..

“With the Liberal party emasculated and the left wing vote split among three parties, the Conservatives should be well into majority territory by this point in the campaign. It should be a cake-walk.

However, while support for the Conservatives has, at times, touched on the benchmark 40 per cent level typically required for a majority government, the party’s numbers remain stubbornly in minority territory.

The reasons are not clear, but it does appear that Canadians are not yet comfortable with giving Stephen Harper a majority mandate.

The most recent Canadian Press Harris-Decima poll has 43 per cent of respondents reporting they have a positive impression of Harper, which is 10 points lower than the beginning of the campaign. (Liberal leader Stephane Dion’s favourable impression remains level at 32 per cent.) Nationally, the Conservatives have the support of 37 per cent of respondents, while the Liberals are at 24 per cent, the NDP at 18 and the Greens are at 10 per cent.

What is it about Harper that results in a less favourable impression of him the more Canadians see of him? Didn’t they like the nice fluffy vests? The musings about family life? The professed love of piano music?

It seems that Canadians are uneasy about a possible mean streak that Harper is keeping hidden, one that could result in a governing climate along the controversial Mike Harris PCs in Ontario in the 1990s.

Harper has flashed evidence of such a trait in his battles with the media. And — locally at least — there is evidence that dissent will not be tolerated. Resistance, even among his own party, is apparently futile.

After Radio-Canada broadcast an interview Sept. 18 with Sudbury Conservative candidate Gerry Labelle, he issued a press release the same day recanting some statements, offering a “complete retraction” and pledging his full support to “Prime Minister Stephen Harper, his cabinet and this Conservative government.” Labelle’s statement read more like a capitulation than a retraction.”  http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1222777

CALGARY – Opposition parties are demanding Calgary Conservative incumbent
Lee Richardson immediately resign for controversial comments that suggested
immigrants are to blame for much of the crime in Canada.

In an interview with a Calgary weekly newspaper published Thursday,  Richardson is quoted as saying many crimes aren’t committed by people who  “grew up next door” and immigrants aren’t as law-abiding.  “Particularly in  big cities, we’ve got people that have grown up in a different culture, and  they don’t have the same background in terms of the stable communities we  had 20, 30 years ago in our cities . . . and don’t have the same respect for  authority or people’s person or property,” Richardson told Fast Forward  Weekly, when asked about recent gun violence in Calgary.  “Talk to the  police. Look at who’s committing these crimes,” added Richardson, the Tory  candidate in Calgary Centre. “They’re not the kid that grew up next door.” Richardson later said he regretted the comments and that he misspoke.  Calgary Centre NDP candidate Tyler Kinch immediately demanded that  Richardson resign from the campaign, or that Conservative Leader Stephen  Harper fire him – a sentiment also shared by the federal Liberals.   “We  must expect more out of our community leaders,” Kinch told reporters on  Thursday. “Mr. Richardson’s comments are hurtful, unfair, untrue and  unproductive . . . Lee Richardson must resign.” Liberal public safety critic  Ujjal Dosanjh called Richardson’s comments “disgraceful” and urged Harper to  turf him.  “If Prime Minister Harper does not take action and fire his  candidate one can only assume he condones such attitudes. It’s clear that  the old Reform Party view towards immigration is still alive and well in  this Conservative party,” Dosanjh said in a statement. http://www.canada.com/topics/news/features/decisioncanada/story.html?id=0add4a8f-03ee-48dd-9538-dd4d3762d395
The liar and the liars would falsely have you believe that there was no crime in Alberta before the immigrants came.. Rememeber that one of the first RCMP outpost in Canada historcially was in Calgary, Alberta the major home of crooks, thieves, cattle rustlers. Now it is the home of drug pushers, car thieves, white collar criminals.
The majority of Albertan citizens should resign, for supporting MP   Richardson’s views, it is clear that 70 percent of Albertan are not only self centered, selfish, but yes racists as well.. while Albertan’s claim to be Albertan most of them are new immigrants from other part of Canada, the world, including the Prime Minister of Canada now himself, Stephen Harper, and they  all in greed mostly have come to Alberta seeking jobs because of Alberta oil  and gas supplies.. but few get rich for the cost of living is too high.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/how-many-rich-people-in-calgary-edmonton-alberta/
 
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Reality today is that  besides cheap words, more likely broken promises, useless   Canada’s  pretentious Ostrich Conservative Finance Minister  Flaherty still presently offers no viable, real, effective solutions to help the thousands already laid off, and Canada’s present economic meltdown, the people also who will lose their homes due to foreclosures too.
 
 (Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20   Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21   Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Col 3:5 KJV)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:6   For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
 

Clinton hesitant to call Obama a ‘great man’

 
 
Bill Clinton said he wasn’t ready to call Obama a ‘great man’.

(CNN)– Former President Bill Clinton was hesitant to characterize Barack Obama as a “great man” Sunday, a phrase he had no qualms using last week to describe Obama’s rival John McCain.

Clinton told NBC’s Tom Brokaw that it was only earlier this month in Harlem that he and Obama had their “first conversation.”

Clinton then explained what he meant in characterizing McCain as a “great man.”

“I think his greatness is that he keeps trying to come back to service without ever asking people to cut him any slack or feel sorry for him or any of that stuff because he was a POW,” Clinton said of the Republican presidential nominee.

Clinton, who successfully ran his own 1992 presidential campaign on the now commonly used phrase “it’s the economy, stupid,” said that he believed the current economic crisis “left [Obama] in a position of leadership that he’s now in.”

Clinton said he and Obama are developing a “really good relationship,” and the Democratic nominee has the potential for greatness. Explaining, he said Obama has many personal accomplishments, but none that exemplify his greatness to the country.

“When he becomes president, he’ll be doing things for the American people and for the world and he is-and the greatness will then become apparent because of the good he’ll do…That’s what I very much believe is going to happen.”

Some have questioned Bill Clinton’s support for Obama following the protracted primary battle between the Illinois senator and Hillary Clinton. The former president praised Obama during his speech at the Democratic National Convention and declared Obama “ready to be president of the United States,” as both sides tried to bring an end to the “Clinton-Obama rift” storyline.

Clinton himself was among the most outspoken critics of Obama’s readiness during the primary season.

The reason it has taken him so long to hit the trail for Obama was the need for him to return to work on his foundation after the long primary season, Clinton explained Sunday.

He is expected to campaign for Obama in Florida, Ohio, northeast Pennsylvania, and Nevada after the Jewish holidays.

“I’m going to do my very best to do every single thing he asks me to do,” Clinton said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/clinton-hesitant-to-call-obama-a-great-man/

Those Obama Liberals, News media still seem to like falsely  to bash, hate Sarah Plain, they still are alienating  now too  more and more right right winged Christians, causing them to support Sarah Plain instead..
75 percent of evangelicals polled refused to vote for Obama.
 

Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren

 
The Dispensationalist , Plymouth  Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsey to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not! In the Western  world today, too many Brethren Christians dare not walk openly or share their faith “for fear of the Jews” and others , but not all of them. (Prov 28:1 KJV)  The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/the-revisionists/
 
Plymouth Brethren it seems they  like to hide from what they really are and teach..  They say the want to be known as the  “No Name Christian Church”, but they are often called  “PB Church”, “PBer’s”, “The Brethren Church”, “Darbyites” and such like.  The history books often refer to them as Plymouth Brethren or those who started the Plymouth Brethren movement.  This Plymouth Brethren label came to be used in the early 1800s because an assembly of Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in Plymouth England had a number of gifted preachers that traveled and preached throughout the country and because they were from the town of Plymouth, people would often refer to them as one of those brethren from Plymouth. 
 
While the Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too  clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every  passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking. It is impossible to give a concise, succinct definition of Dispensationalism today because of the many changes among dispensational teachers. There is more than one view of Dispensationalism today. Therefore, the old definition found in the Scofield Bible is no longer accurate or adequate: “A dispensation is a period of time during which a man is tested in respect of obedience to some specific revelation of the will of God” (Scofield Reference Bible, p. 5, note 4 )so  it is impossible to give a concise and succinct definition of Dispensationalism, and if Darby, Scofield, or even Chafer were to return today, they would be bewildered by the widely divergent stances of those still called dispensationalists. So clearly Dispensationalism cannot be defined as a return to the new testament biblical, beliefs, doctrines any longer too. “Darby and many others Brrthren had held that the church of God would escape the days of the end [i.e., the days of the great tribulation]; Newton, Tregelles, George Müller, and others believed the church will go through that period; R. C. Chapman, Groves, and Lady Powerscourt thought that not all believers will share in the first resurrection and the millennial kingdom…. “

Because of the dogmatic insistence of Darby and his followers that others heed their instructions, which they felt to be the Spirit’s leading, they reaped divisions in abundance

Too many relgious groups who still do  teach unacceptable falsehoods try to proclaim also that they are real Christians other wise who would even listen to them ,even their false Gospel of the dispensational method of interpretation of the Bible. Yes  many other relgious groups falsey also try to say that they are Christians now including the clearly  false cults of Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses, and the other even once called real Christians Churches who have basically departed from  the  true faith in Jesus Christ such as the  Anglican, the Catholics, Mennonites and some of the others too.

The false churches and Cults are classic experts in brainwashing techniques.  Jehovah’s Witnesses is another cult that uses brainwashing techniques with great success. Any member who dares to leave the organization is shunned by close family members, and this intimidation is as intense as one can possibly imagine. Divorce,  isolation,  Shunning is a masterful false bondage technique.

Another false group are the Messianic Jews. The modern day Judaizers in the Christian church are those in the “Torah Keeper” movement. Many Christian churches falsely teach that the old testament Commandments also do apply today. This false doctrine of theirs is not  baffling since they want to falsely keep and exalt their old culture, cultural beliefs, and are not willing to pay the price to follow after Jesus Christ alone,  and all of the  Scripture written by the Apostle Paul for the church today is clearly against it too. They come up with twisted explanations and they clearly also now do  fall into false teaching. They falsely believe that legalism is the only method possible for a person to resist a sinful lifestyle. These church Pastors, Ministers and Reverends ignore the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit in the born again believer. The Apostle Paul taught that legalism is doomed to failure. Submitting to the guidance of the Holy Spirit actually fulfills the requirements of the ritual, sacrificial Law too. Legalistic preachers typically don’t accept repentance from members in the church. The repentant member is simply kicked out no matter what he does. This unbiblical practice of expecting all members to be perfectly sinless leads to denial of sin throughout the congregation. The denial of sin results in a sinful pride, a pattern of lying and a refusal to admit or repent of anything.  All legalists lead people away from the gospel and away from Christ by focusing on their legalistic false doctrines and works instead of the gospel.” 

Dispensationalists like also to  teach that all who place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual body, the Church, because  they not only want to corrupt, influence other Christians it would be unthinkable for them to admit they have false doctrines, and can be rightfully excluded from the true believers in Jesus Christ.

  Dispensational theology breaks Scripture into separate parts (really into separate revelations), each applicable for a limited time and a limited audience. The growth of DISPENSATIONALISM coincided with a break  away church that supported  a supposedly changing, accommodating, developing God.  Dispensationalists denies the contractual  covenant  duties of the people of God. Dispensationalists holds that the complete Old Testament was no longer binding. DISPENSATIONALISM also falsely teach that the teachings of the  the New testament Gospels are not binding to any Christians because they rather pertain to the future. Dispensationalists falsely also say Christ’s death was His alternative  plan “B” after the Jewish people rejected His attempt to establish His earthly Kingdom, and that He will come back and try it again later. Dispensationalists also falsely try to  tells the true church that we are in a parenthesis, a holding period, until Christ returns to set up His Jewish Kingdom and Israel is the center fold of the Bible.. While Jesus himself had said my kingdom is not of this world.. DISPENSATIONALISM  was, and is a false foundation on which the believers in the church can only be led astray from the truth of God, and his word to us.

The three general views of Dispensationalism:

-There is what is called hyper-Dispensationalism. One of their distinctives is the teaching that the Church did not begin until the middle of the Book of Acts.

-There are those who are called classical dispensationalists. C.I. Scofield, Lewis Sperry Chafer and others of the old school would come under this designation. They held that Israel is on earth and the Church is in heaven and the twain shall never meet.

-The neo-dispensationalist view is promoted by such leaders as Charles C. Ryrie, Dwight Pentecost and Zane Hodges. They hold that the Church and Israel shall come together after the millennium. They differ from the old dispensationalists, in that they teach that saints in the Old Testament were saved by faith.

Each of these views has many distinctives and differences from the others, and it is not at all a basic, simple, straightforward, unified belief,  Gospel as the Brethren try too often to mislead others to believe in too.

While the Plymouth Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word they have clearly seem to like to eradicate, explain away the Bible references to personal  judgement, reaping, sins, Hell, damnation, and I often still do wonder why? what are they hiding? are fearful of? the real truth? It is true that there have been many dispensationalists who have not embraced selective-resurrection or chastisement at the judgment seat.

Most Christians  still don’t seem to realize that because of Israel’s disobedience, God is finished with national Israel. Let’s look at what Jesus had to say to the nation of Israel:

 Matthew 21:18-19  Now in the morning, when He returned to the city, He became hungry. 19 And seeing a lone fig tree by the road, He came to it, and found nothing on it except leaves only; and He said^ to it, “No longer shall there ever be any fruit from you.” And at once the fig tree withered.

In reality  The Church Is the full replacement for Israel Now. That   sums up the heart of real, valid theology, that the Christian church is heir of the promises to and the responsibility of the Hebrew nation of old. When God blessed Abraham in Genesis 22:17—18, He promised: “[T]hy seed shall posses the gate of his enemies.” In Matthew 16:18, after Peter confessed faith in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, Christ said, “[U]pon this rock [this profession of faith] I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Abraham’s seed was promised the gate of his enemies, and then Christ promised His church they would occupy the gates erected by hell itself. Another aspect of that promise to Abraham was that in Him all nations would be blessed. That blessing is Jesus Christ and His salvation. But who is now commanded to teach and baptize “all nations” in the Great Commission? The church, the people of Jesus Christ, who are heirs of Abraham’s faith.

There is a great disagreement within Christiandom as to who the “Israel of God” is. Does this refer to the nation Israel or to the Church of Jesus Christ? How you answer this question is very important. If you are going to understand the Bible and its promises, you must understand who “Israel” is. What we believe influences how we behave. What Christian leaders teach about the Jews and Arabs influences how Christians view the events unfolding in the Middle East. I also believe that there is a direct connection between the church’s view of Israel and terrorism.  A wrong view of Israel   affects  the  foreign policy negatively  also. Because of the even  false Dispensationalism and the false  Christian Zionism, most American Christians believe that we have a biblical mandate to stand with and protect Israel in spite of any of the unacceptable bad things Israel itself now does too The Dispensationalist, as well as the Zionist, falsely believes that the nation of Israel is still God’s chosen people, the sole inheritors of God’s promises, and that to be a part of Israel, one must be of the proper lineage and nationality.  Zionism is not a Christian Movement but a political movement built on the belief that the Jewish people still do deserve by right to possess all of the land of Palestine . Israel too as their own. Christian Zionism is essentially a Christian prophetic support for Zionism; seeing the modern state of Israel, and the equivalent of the old testament biblical Israel. Christian Identity teaches a similar idea that Israel is actually composed of the descendants of the ten “lost tribes” that became the Anglo-Saxon and Germannic peoples. According to this view, to be a part of “Israel,” one must be of this fleshly lineage.  There is absolutely no new testament reverences, verses of support for any of this This is all unbiblical per the New testament now as well, for, just as with Dispensationalism, the emphasis is placed upon the flesh and temporal, instead of upon the Spirit and the eternal. Put another way, according to these systems of doctrine, the focus is taken from the cross of Jesus Christ, and is instead placed upon the merits of man. And that makes it all false too. http://www.preteristplanet.com/id79.html

There are too many false evangelical religious groups  who try to seduce others by their false MISLEADING STATEMENTS.
 
When someone one says to me, others, on the net that they believe the Bible is the word of God, they believe Jesus is God and He is an equal  part of the Trinity, they believe in the Holy spirit now as being a person as well,  but they next do  deny falsely the existence of the the Holy Spirit’s  spiritual, charismatic gifts, they now are still lying, falsely  playing on words, because you cannot accept Jesus Christ and reject the Holy Spirit and his gifts. The Holy Spirt is the Spirit  of Christ. Thus they really are not Christians, for how could the Holy Spirit now be even guiding them and leading them into all truth when they cannot be led by him into these basics even.. rather they are being led by the devil, others, mere men, and not God undeniably still too.

 The hypocritical  Plymouth brethren falsely want to maintain that they are Christians,  a part of the Body of Christ Universal , when it is also clearly undeniable they are nor only the the dispensationalists. Plymouth brethren  and the   dispensationalists, Plymouth brethren   also falsely do  bash, try to discredit, do abuse the Pentecostal Christians who they falsely  claim now are not even Christian. Not one persons in decade has even rightfully showed me why I am not a Christian even though I am also a Pentecostal one too now.

Dispensationalists who now say that salvation is wholly of God by grace on the basis of the redemption of Jesus Christ, the merit of His shed blood, and not on the basis of human merit or works falsely exclude any future personal; accountably too.

The brethren falsely  would like us to belief that even the en commandments are not applicable to us today, and yet James judges the belief, the applicable faith  of other supposedly Christians by them still too.
 
James 2:5  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
6  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
7  Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
8  If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9  But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12  So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
13  For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath showed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
14  What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15  If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16  And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17  Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
(Mat 19:16 KJV)  And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20  The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
 
Instead of rightfully here too taking Jesus words at face value, like they do with too many things, the Brethren have their own false re explanations, interpretations..
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
  
(Gal 6:8 KJV)  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
  
(Gal 6:9 KJV)  And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
  
(Gal 6:10 KJV)  As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

  The rather first Christian dispensationalist we seem to tend to know is the heretic Apostle Judas even one of the 12 original Apostles

(Mat 13:22 KJV)  He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

(Mark 4:19 KJV)  And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

(John 8:23 KJV)  And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

(John 18:36 KJV)  Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

(1 Cor 1:20 KJV)  Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

(1 Cor 2:6 KJV)  Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

(1 Cor 3:19 KJV)  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

(1 Cor 7:31 KJV)  And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.

(2 Cor 4:4 KJV)  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

(Eph 2:2 KJV)  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

(Eph 6:12 KJV)  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

(Rev 11:15 KJV)  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 (Rev 1:5 KJV)  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

(Rev 19:10 KJV)  And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

(Rev 22:16 KJV)  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

(Rev 22:20 KJV)  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

(Rev 22:21 KJV)  The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

 I also came to the conclusion that the King James Bible is the best version available in the English language today for Bible study, easy reference too. The Bible publishing world is presently involved in a high stakes monetary race to come out with, so called, “newer and better” versions of the English Bible. And, what is their motive? There are countless versions of the English Bible on store shelves today. Is the English language changing so fast that we need a newer translation than the one that came out last month or last year? I think not. They seem to like to push  a different doctrine, and have just as many errors next  it seems as they one they had originally claimed to try to correct.  

I also do believe that God inspired the original writings of the Bible, which are called the autographa. There are many verses that teach this. Here are two key verses that I want you to see…
 
The more important Question is, do you and I really believe it is the word of God or are you looking for another Bible  translation to justify some of your immoral acts, and/or wrong beliefs still too?!

2 Peter 1:20-21 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation (that is, they did not originate with man). 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”

2 Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”

But, there is also the matter of verbal preservation of the apographa (copies of the originals). I believe that God has preserved His Words in the copies of those original writings in the Hebrew Masoretic Text of the Old Testament and the Traditional Text (Textus Receptus) of the New Testament.

I have FAITH that the God who inspired the original autographs can and did preserve the apographs so that we can say, “Thus saith the Lord; This IS the Word of God” when we hold up our King James Bibles.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/?s=Plymouth++Brethren
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

 

Sarah Palin on

 Sarah Palin on Abortion 
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  • Rejected sympathy for Down’s Syndrome son, as gift from God. (Aug 2008)
  • Opposes embryonic stem cell research. (Aug 2008)
  • Every baby is created with a future and potential. (Aug 2008)
  • Safe Haven bill: allow surrendering newborns without penalty. (Feb 2008)
  • Adoption is best plan for permanency for foster care kids. (Oct 2007)
  • Pro-life. (Nov 2006)
  • Choose life, even if her own daughter were raped. (Nov 2006)
  • If Roe v. Wade got overturned, let people decide what’s next. (Oct 2006)
  • Opposes use of public funds for abortions. (Oct 2006)
  • Pro-contraception, pro-woman, pro-life. (Aug 2006)
  • Only exception for abortion is if mother’s life would end. (Jul 2006)
 Sarah Palin on Civil Rights 
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  • Vetoed bill denying benefits to gays, as unconstitutional. (Aug 2008)
  • ADA brings expanded freedom to Americans with disabilities. (Jul 2008)
  • Recognize Juneteenth to celebrate the end of slavery. (Jun 2008)
  • HIV/AIDS among Alaska Natives is public health crisis. (Mar 2008)
  • Recognize Martin Luther King holiday. (Jan 2008)
  • Comply with same-sex partner benefits despite disagreement. (Dec 2006)
  • Marriage only be between and man and a woman. (Nov 2006)
  • Value our cultural diversity. (Nov 2006)
  • Prefers term “anti-rural” to “anti-Native”. (Nov 2006)
  • Special legislative session on same-sex health benefits. (Nov 2006)
  • Ok to deny benefits to homosexual couples. (Aug 2006)
  • No spousal benefits for same-sex couples. (Jul 2006)
  • Top priorities include preserving definition of “marriage”. (Jul 2006)

 Sarah Palin on Drugs 
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  • Highway fatalities down because of strict drunk driving laws. (Aug 2008)
  • Maintain alcohol sale database; bar giving alcohol to minors. (Jun 2007)
  • Questions cruise ship gambling, under casino gambling ban. (Oct 2006)
  • Opposes legalizing marijuana, but meth is greater threat. (Aug 2006)
  • Smoked marijuana when it was legal under Alaska law. (Aug 2006)
  • Top priorities include gangs & drugs; they harm family life. (Jul 2006)

 Sarah Palin on Education 
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  • Teach creationism alongside evolution in schools. (Aug 2008)
  • Supports teaching intelligent design in public schools. (Aug 2008)
  • 294 Alaska public schools progressed under NCLB. (Aug 2008)
  • School debate should focus on accountability. (Jan 2008)
  • Committed to providing strong education, including morals. (Jan 2008)
  • Budget funds education, but will to work is also critical. (Jan 2008)
  • Court ruling against NEA: state adequately funds education. (Jun 2007)
  • Fully fund K-12 and support early funding of education. (Jan 2007)
  • Supports $20 million needs-based aid for U. Alaska. (Nov 2006)
  • Forward-fund K-12 schools to allow better planning. (Nov 2006)
  • Supports charter schools, home schools, & other alternatives. (Nov 2006)
  • Target early education programs to at-risk groups. (Nov 2006)
  • Alignment between parents, teachers, schools, & business. (Nov 2006)
  • Faith-based materials ok in homeschooling. (Nov 2006)
  • ABC method: back to basics, plus patriotism & ethics. (Nov 2006)
  • Supports parental choice for what is best for their children. (Nov 2006)
  • Don’t push school boards on creationism but allow discussion. (Oct 2006)
  • I believe we have a creator; and many theories of evolution. (Oct 2006)
  • Support charters & home schools; not private school vouchers. (Oct 2006)
  • Let parents opt out of schoolbooks they find offensive. (Jul 2006)
  • Parents know best, about school spending & school age. (Jul 2006)

 

 Sarah Palin on Crime 
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  • Establish “FBI Day” to support fighting global crime. (Jun 2008)
  • Register sex offenders; & investigate internet sex crimes. (Jun 2008)
  • Victims’ rights are critical to “justice for all”. (Mar 2008)
  • We are tough on crime and beefing up law enforcement. (Jan 2008)
  • Collect DNA samples from felons. (Jun 2007)
  • Gang members on probation must wear electronic monitors. (Jun 2007)
  • Maximum sentence for first-degree murder by police. (Apr 2007)
  • If legislature passed death penalty law, I would sign it. (Nov 2006)
  • Strong public safety presence, via police, courts & prisons. (Nov 2006)
  • Death penalty for adults who murder children. (Oct 2006)
  • No special hate-crime laws; all heinous crime is hate-based. (Jul 2006)
  • No expansion of gambling in Alaska. (Jul 2006)

 Sarah Palin on Government Reform 
Click here for 13 full quotes on Government Reform OR other candidates on Government Reform OR background on Government Reform.

  • Shook up the good-ol’ boys network with major ethics reform. (Sep 2008)
  • Vetoed nearly half a billion dollars in wasteful spending. (Sep 2008)
  • McCain: She’s a soul-mate who implemented ethics reform. (Aug 2008)
  • Killed “bridge to nowhere” project as unneeded. (Aug 2008)
  • Supported infamous “Bridge to Nowhere”; now criticizes it. (Aug 2008)
  • Individuals make better decisions than government. (Aug 2008)
  • Fight “bridge to nowhere” and all earmarks. (Jul 2008)
  • VECO scandal & Stevens indictment shows need for GOP cleanup. (Jul 2008)
  • Comprehensive ethics reform: change politics as usual. (Jul 2007)
  • Presented comprehensive ethics bill in early 2007. (Mar 2007)
  • Sell previous governor’s jet on eBay–it’s impractical. (Dec 2006)
  • Attended numerous debates & did not avoid any unnecessarily. (Oct 2006)
  • Supports state funding for Gravina Island bridge. (Oct 2006)

http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm

Barack Obama vs John McCain

 

gay sex, abortion, lying, drunkness behavior, taking drugs,
 
are all unacceptable for any professing, Christian, evangelical persons especially Barrack Obama now as well
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/john-mccain-sarah-palin-barack-obama-and-joe-biden/

 

 Barack Obama on Civil Rights 
Democratic nomine for President; Junior Senator (IL)
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  • Hate crimes related to the immigration issue is unacceptable. (Feb 2008)
  • People want to move beyond our divisions. (Jan 2008)
  • 2004 DNC speech merged “heritage” with “diversity”. (Dec 2007)
  • The politics of fear undermines basic civil liberties. (Oct 2007)
  • 1980s boss predicted Obama would be heir to MLK’s voice. (Aug 2007)
  • Racial equality good for America as a whole. (Jun 2007)
  • Put the Confederate flag in a museum, not the state house. (Apr 2007)
  • Muslim heritage gives Obama unique influence in Muslim world. (Oct 2006)
  • No black or white America–just United States of America. (Oct 2006)
  • Gays should not face discrimination but should not marry. (Oct 2004)
  • Forthright on racial issues and on his civil rights history. (Jul 2004)
  • Defend freedom and equality under law. (May 2004)
  • Politicians: don’t use religion to insulate from criticism. (Apr 2004)
  • Miscegenation a felony in 1960 when Obamas practiced it. (Aug 1996)
  • The civil rights movement was a success. (Aug 1996)
  • Apply affirmative action to poor white college applicants. (Apr 2008)
  • Fight job discrimination to give women equal footing at jobs. (Feb 2008)
  • Remove discriminatory barriers to the right to vote. (Feb 2008)
  • Benefited from affirmative action but overcame via merit. (Dec 2007)
  • Include class-based affirmative action with race-based. (Oct 2007)
  • Better enforce women’s pay equity via Equal Pay Act. (Aug 2007)
  • Blacks should infiltrate mainstream to affect change. (Aug 2007)
  • Commitment to diversity by CEOs is advisable. (Mar 2007)
  • African-Americans vote Democratic because of issue stances. (Jul 2004)
  • Supports affirmative action in colleges and government. (Jul 1998)

    Gay Rights

     

  • Opposes CA Prop. 8, one-man-one-woman marriage. (Jul 2008)
  • Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)
  • Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)
  • Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)
  • Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)
  • Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)
  • We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)
  • Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)
  • Disentangle gay rights from the word “marriage”. (Aug 2007)
  • Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)
  • Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)
  • Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)
  • Pass ENDA and expand hate crime legislation. (Mar 2007)
  • Opposed 1996 Illinois DOMA bill. (Mar 2007)
  • Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)
  • Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
  • Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)
  • Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998)

 

 John McCain on Civil Rights 
Republican nominee for President; Senior Senator (AZ)
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  • Supports CA Prop. 8: one-man-one-woman marriage. (Jul 2008)
  • Voted against MLK holiday in 1983; now calls that a mistake. (Apr 2008)
  • Don’t ask, don’t tell is working; don’t tamper with it. (Jun 2007)
  • Confederate flag on top of capitol was wrong; in front is ok. (May 2007)
  • Leave gay marriage to the states. (Jan 2007)
  • John Lewis was as courageous as anyone could ever hope to be. (Apr 2004)
  • Fear did not restrain Dr. King to resist repression. (Apr 2004)
  • 1994: No Senate hiring discrimination by sexual orientation. (Jan 2004)
  • Support evangelism but don’t pander to evangelical leaders. (Feb 2000)
  • Inter-racial dating ban is idiotic and cruel. (Feb 2000)
  • Career-long history of supporting Indian causes. (Jan 2000)
  • Ten Commandments would bring virtue to our schools. (Jan 2000)
  • Confederate flag is a “symbol of heritage”. (Jan 2000)
  • Allow, but not mandate, school prayer. (Jan 2000)
  • Would be “comfortable” with a gay president. (Dec 1999)
  • Flying Confederate flag should be left to states. (Sep 1999)
  • 1st Amend. not a shield for hate groups. (Aug 1999)
  • Indian gambling OK; lottery is not. (Aug 1999)
  • Hollywood should voluntarily self-censor sex and violence. (Jul 1999)
  • Supports Amendment against flag-burning. (Apr 1999)
  • We don’t need laws against Spanish language & culture. (Mar 1999)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Civil_Rights.htm#Barack_Obama