What should be the key goal in one’s life be?

 

Building and maintaining  personal relationships with others, either  Qualitative or Quantitative relationships?  they should be  the key goal in one’s life ?
 
Personal relationships DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE now are really important to some persons.
 
I have often heard seniors, educators , teachers, pastors say that one’s own relationship with one’s parents is also a priority.
 
(Mat 19:19 KJV)  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
It is also well known that Jesus loved Lazuraus and his family..  John 11:2 KJV  It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with   4  When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. 5  Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
 
We all have a desire to be loved, a need  to be wanted, to be accepted, to be approved by others, even  to please others it seems too..  Personal relationships are really important to some persons. It likely all now explains why the social internet networks are so popular
 
 Personal relationships are the main goals, priority. They are God ordained goals?
 
(Mat 22:39 KJV)  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
(Lev 19:18 KJV)  Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
 
(2 Th 3:10 KJV)  For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. 12    Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
 
Some PERSONS rather would say getting and maintaining a job, a career are,  is RATHER the most important thing in life, for a job is essential forputting goods, food, bread on the table, and one’s  personal happiness is often  defined by the work one does too.. but even here personal networking seems to be essential in getting ahead  to doing a good job..   
 
The business persons the politician too  would agree that establishing, maintaining, building personal relationships are very important for after all relationships, contacts are essential for his own personal business development, profitability, getting repeat customers, support especially.  Relationships are also important to the  the ambitious achiever as well who wants to get ahead,, to be promoted, thus a goal of personal relations are very important as well to the  Hireling pastors who are here to advance, promote themselves, to get richer in the process.
 
Some others would still rather say that  one’s family relationship are the most import as well, the relationship with ones spouse, children,  brothers and sisters..
  
(1 Tim 5:8 KJV)  But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
 
Some others loudly  would still rather say that the spousal relationships is the most important aspect?
   
The supposedly Important MARRIAGE  Intimacies? SELF CENTERED GOALS?
–  a bond of Spiritual Intimacy… but the FIRST all important relationship is not that  between a husband and wife but that one with  God!  Too often God is neglected and why is that? No excuses here are acceptable.
– Emotional Intimacy… the “heart to heart” connection the intimate couple CRAVED BY EMOTIONAL WOMEN?  and certainly not by men, many men tend to lie to women to make them feel good here..
– Intellectual Intimacy… SEEMS TO BY PASS ANY NEED FOR  LOVE.. Though we allow one another to be unique,  is it important that we share common core values? A truly intimate couple will often even think the same thing? or be led by the same evil spirit? REAL LOVE ACCEPTS A PERSON THE WAY THEY ARE EVEN WITH THE DIFFERENCES.
– Sexual Intimacy or Sexual compatibilty  IS VERY IMPORTANT  too? God has designed a very special physical relationship that draws a husband and wife closer than ever? or a lust that causes them to be tempted by others?  Sexual! This seems to be the biggest goal of may persons sadly. Sex still does not make you happy like Jesus does. Many people who have sex are still unhapy with each other, life too.
 
Most marriages that fail still do fail not due to marital intimacy failures but firstly fail  due to laziness, unrealistic expectations, pursuing bad or false values, extreme goals, self centeredness and ADULTERY..
     
Personal relationship with others should be the key goal in one’s life   or is there other more important priorities, goals in life that should be personally  followed? 
 
First let us look at the above main quoted verses again and see them in a little bit  more detail..
  
 In reality none of these above goals in themselves now are correct, taken to imbalance, extreme, alone, distorted they can be rather deadly.. for any a man is known by the company he keeps and having bad friends, associates, can be personally deadly rather still too.
 
(Mat 5:43 KJV)  Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44   But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47  And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? :48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
 
WHAT WE ARE EVEN TO CULTIVATE RELATIONSHIPS STILL WITH PEOPLE WHO DO NOT APPRECIATE US, HAVE NO USE FOR US? What Ostrazation, divorce, separation from them is not allowed?
 
(Mat 19:19 KJV)  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20   The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21   Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
 
Loving one’s family clearly is not enough.. one has to love others
 
but one first has to love God with all one hearts, soul and body too
 
(Mark 12:29 KJV)  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 
 
 
(Mat 10:37 KJV)  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Some others would still rather say that  family relationship are the most import as well, the relationship with ones spouse, children,  brothers and sisters.. and it seems Jesus failed on that account for his family did not approve of his work goals..

  
(Mat 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. 58 KJV)  And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
 
(Mark 6:5 KJV)  And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. 6  And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching. 7  And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
 
JESUS HIMSELF  SEEMS TO HAVE FAILED IN THE AREA OF PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT, even WITH  HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS, OTHERS TOO, FOR HE WAS KILLED BY THE OTHERS,  EVEN DIED TOTALLY  FORSAKEN, ABANDONED, HE DIED ALMOST ALL ALONE..
 
Jesus seems to CLEARLY imply THAT DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHERS THUS IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN ONE’S LIFE  but rather personally, clearly doing the Will of the Heavenly Father that  was more important even over developing one’s relationships..
 
(Luke 22:42 KJV)  Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
  
(Mat 12:46 KJV)  While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47   Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. 48  But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49   And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50   For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
  
Mat 10:32  Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. :37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39  He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40  He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 41  He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. :42  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
 
FOLLOWING AFTER GOD’S WORD IS ALWAYS STILL ESSENTIAL AS WELL
 
(Mat 13:18 KJV)  Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19   When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20    But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21   Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. :22    He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23    But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
 
Mat 6:31  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. :33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
 
(Mat 13:31 KJV)  Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32  Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
 
Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. :20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
 
JESUS ALSO RELIED FULLY ON GOD’S HELP, LEADING. (John 5:19 KJV)  Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.(John 5:30 KJV)  I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
  
There is a stigma that comes with the real cross for the TRUE, Real righteous Christian people seem  not fit in this society. They always thus  bring attack upon them. He Jesus  came to bring a sword. You wield it, for you show what you are realy like in contrast to them. The world thus hates you for it. They wrongfully despise you. Forget about building relationships with them..
   
Anyway  love is not compliance to other’s evil ways. It is standing up for what is best for them. Yes they hate you.
 
(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
 (1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him
 
It is ok. God, Jesus  loves you.

Why some people still do miss the kingdom of heaven. They cannot give up their sins to God.  My father was a soldier who was proud of all other soldiers. Especially the Russian ones. Many orthodox persons boast of their historical heritage but so what? For a half a century I too often clearly notice that many of the Orthodox persons I know they  do not practice what their church preaches still. My very religious Orthodox father used to often visit the grave site of many of his deceased friends to pray for them but my father was never known to be charitable or kind to anyone , not even to himself. He used to justify it by saying to me why should I do something good to someone else when they never did anything good to me. Many orthodox persons do  honor and venerate St. John to a extreme such as my father also had often did too but I had often wondered why when my father was never willing to make the needed personal changes in his own life, to bring fruit worthy of repentances.. Maybe that was why they admired St John so much cause he did REPENT, AND make the necessary changes. All People who are willfully disobedient to God, falsely still insist on doing their own thing and not doing it God’s way will next miss the boat, and they will not enter into heaven.. for God does not bless disobediences. Cain was a good example of this.

  

I have been recently counseling a person who desperately wants to be remarried, she has been twice married, but she is not interesting in following after God only after her own desires, lusts.. so no marriage for her will make her happy or replace God’s vacuum in her life still too. God has not promised you now even a right of remarriage.. but he promised you peace, joy and happiness and yes you can have that outside of marriage with Jesus..

  

If you still do have a God shaped vacuum that is unfilled, then no other things, no relationships or careers, goals, next will satisfy you, not any personal, social, community relationships..

 

 (2 Tim 2:4 KJV)  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

 

Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you [from their company], and shall reproach [you], and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.

(Mark 8:36 KJV)  For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

(1 Cor 7:32 KJV)  But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
 
(1 Cor 7:33 KJV)  But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
 
(1 Cor 7:34 KJV)  There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
 
(Heb 11:6 KJV)  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
 
(John 8:28 KJV)  Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29  And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
 
(Gal 1:10 KJV)  For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
 
(Rom 8:8 KJV)  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
 
(1 Th 2:15 KJV)  Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
 
(1 Th 4:1 KJV)  Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
 
(Rom 15:1 KJV)  We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
 
(Rom 15:2 KJV)  Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
 
(1 Cor 10:33 KJV)  Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
 
 Now if many persons, pastors too  now had a real, daily relationship with God and read the Bible regularly they would have already known these truths presented here
 
 
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To the bad preacher

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  THE ONLY MENTOR YOU NEED IS THE HOLY SPIRIT   AND NOT THE EVIL SPIRIT’S OR ALCOHOL

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Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT  I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands and teachings. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT  only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man..  

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I have had also now in the past  about 5 control freaks evangelical pastors and also many of my relatives  try to dominate, control me, all claiming that God has appointed them to these roles.. they all can dream on.   We all are to submit ourselves solely to  God, to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.. who guides us, leads us into all truth. Jesus Christ is still the head of the Church, Churches!  

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1 Pe 1:5  who by God’s power are protected through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.  

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Now  you are even cursed if you are under any human covering but God.. There are any number of untold horrors that lurk for those who step outside God’s covering..   It is Jesus Christ that protects us.  We are protected by the Holy Spirit through faith.  There is no mention anywhere in scripture that submission to authority is required for spiritual protection. Demand for coverings are  a spiritualized protection racket,  an extortion scheme where some offer in return you their  spiritual “protection” services. 

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Even when people are mistreated and abused under the coverings they mostly will stay and endure because they are afraid of the false threats of  dooms that may  lie for them outside the covering of their church.  This fear driven manipulation does enslave people and do horrible things to people spiritually, mentally and emotionally. People grow in  healthy relationships built on trust and held together by real love but the enslaved persons  in authoritarian churches rarely experience this.

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Any submission is reciprocal, mutual, based on one’s free will still.

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Dictatorships anywhere are all still demonic.   God’s chosen leaders still cannot force any one into submission, for all submission is even mutual, voluntarily, willingly, unenforceable and all leaders are to be exemplary now firstly too and not rather HERE mere commanders or dictators    I know that this forced submission emphasis, demands are a false attempts by these overly perverse, ambitious, crooked persons, bad pastors and bad religious persons now included too, for these persons  and mere persons who do want now by such means to attempt to self prosper, to grow richer, to advance themselves over others still have  no good concerns for me. They are slave drivers. 

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Slavery was abolished a long time ago too.   Let me be very clear about that I am a slave to no man but to Jesus Christ himself, alone. I serve no man, especially any of the clearly foolish, perverted ones, and  I take orders from no man, I do not have to do what they desire or try to command me to do at any time too. No matter if they still do wrongfully think otherwise too. I am still only God’s slave  and not any man’s.

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Bad pastors that I have too often encountered now main objective is to control, rule over even silence the flock through fear and intimidation. In this despotic, institutionalized church system where disloyalty to or disagreement with the pastor or leaders is viewed as the same as disobeying God. Questioning the pastor on doctrinal statements becomes equal to questioning God. After all, the Pastor is the authority, and authority is always right. These pastors even try to commit their objectors to mental institutions. Sadly in real life both God, Good and bad preachers coexist but presently the bad preachers seem to outnumber the good ones 2:1    

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God’s ideal of a real Church now would be where everybody was just one big happy family of brothers and sisters behaving in love ,  decency, honesty too… but even many homes, families do not have this and why? The devil, sin and self centeredness, false pride run the homes and many churches, church pastors now too. Prideful, ambitious, control freak, pompous Satan and his earthly followers do hate the way God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Gal. 3:13; 5:18 ) and hate us being freed, free in Jesus Christ, our blood-bought freedom too.  

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Satan is really delighted now to see all the enslavements, abuse , chicanery and robbery going on in his rather den of thieves masquerading as a true church or a house of God! When you’re about to be thrown out onto the street for lack of rent money, you just try to get one of those tithe-collecting tycoons to share with you the way the first century Christians did with those in need. Yeah, right, he’ll “PRAY” for you, that is, if you can get past his entourage of ushers.  

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Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits

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Eccl 10:7 KJV  I have seen servants upon horses, and princes walking as servants upon the earth. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

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All of the Loyalty should be to Jesus Christ alone, the Word of God! There is no hierarchy in the body of Christ, where every one has their own function, the apostles, prophets, pastor have a function, even the deacon has a function, the elders as a whole has a function. One member in the body of Christ is not more important than another. They all have a function. Romans 12:3-6 says, “ For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. Having then gifts differing according to grace that is given to us. Sadly the role of pastors and deacons in the churches today does not match the role of deacons set forth in the book of acts.

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It seem many people still get the type leaders they deserve.. even mad ones.

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Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits…

Matthew 24:24, “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew greatsigns and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2Peter 2:1, “But there were false prophets also among the people, Even as there shall be falseteachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, Even denying the Lord thatbought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2John: 1: 7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”

1John 4: BELOVED, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

2 Timothy 4:3,4 “ For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

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SATAN Wants You even today. The same very busy devil who haunts the Las Vegas casinos, Church Bingo Halls, Lottos,  who often even in churches  wears a nice suit and tie to look respectable enough to con you out of your money, with half truths too, and  with the false promises of earthly wealth in exchange for “your sacrificial gift.”   Wonder how  he got his suit too?  He wants also you, he wants  to  net you, to fleece you, and for you be diverted, to miss the boat, he does not want you on the straight, narrow path that next also leads to Heaven, rather he wants you on the broad path that  leads to hell.  He clearly does not want you to live by faith in God to look after you, rather he wants you to do your own thing, for you to look after yourself. Don’t trust God he says, trust in others, trust in the Apostate Church, and in the crooked preachers too, or trust yourself rather. Trust even the too often bad Preacher these days who first  Wants His Cut. He the preacher now also does wants to know  What’s in it for him? Preachers seem these days to be  always hollering about how everyone must submit to THEM, it is a one way enforced submission and not rather rightfully a voluntarily , reciprocal mutual one, and pay up, pay the  tithe , or they’ll roost in Hell for all eternity.  The same too often false PREACHERS who refuse to submit to others and to the whole   Word of God especially.
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Telling the truth and sharing ALL the counsel of God as the  Apostle Paul did (Acts 20:27) can be very costly with the preachers losing not only control of the money but CONTROL over people’s lives,  and the false gratification it brings to their too often already swelled egos too.  Satan likes to have   the church members stranded in the Old Testament paying of the  of tithe that  next will be too often abused by the too often bad pastors now as well..  
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God took the initiative to have a great church by imparting His good Holy spirit gifts to all, these mostly Gentile converts now too.  But some how along the way these gifts and the related gifted men and women they have next too often been neglected, abused, distorted.. and many people these days in the churches even  need to be  he rescued them from these kidnappers.  Preachers too often also falsely say do what I say and not what I do.. especially not the bad things.
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Go to the preacher for help and think you really are going to get it next? Often not now too unless you FIRST give money, your full “tithe” to Him?   the preacher’s palm firstly still  does even needs to be  greased with a lot of  money?  But don’t even expect the help to be real, valid next too.  I myself always prefer to go to God alone rightfully still and not any preacher. If your are laid off, sick, unemployed, poor and there just ain’t much money to be gained from you don’t expect to be welcome back to most churches these days, I mean social /Cultural/pride clubs, not really Churches.
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Jesus himself did not live off the proceeds of tithes, So now why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses ABOUT TITHING in Malachi 3?  I Tim.2:5 which states that there is only ONE Mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus. And not some other human being that must now accepts his direct representative, supposedly on God’s behalf.  And NOWHERE in the New Testament does God even authorize him to take up, spend  any of tithes in His Name. “Spiritual tyrants would demote us from our exalted place in Christ and relegate us to being tribute-paying peons who work and slave to build THEIR religious empires. The false Tithing preachers do radically alters our relationship with God, from being His child receiving His favors solely through His grace in Christ, to some hard-nosed “prosperity partnership” whereby God only dispenses answers to prayer in exchange for cold, hard cash. “
 

Prideful,  ambitious,  control freak,  pompous   Satan and his earthly followers do hate the way God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Gal. 3:13; 5:18 ) and hate  us being freed, free in Jesus Christ, our blood-bought freedom too. Satan is really delighted now to see all the enslavements, abuse ,  chicanery and robbery going on in his rather den of thieves masquerading as a true church or a house of God!  The devil and the too often bad pastor claim they knows what’s best for the flock  so they’d better not take their freedom in Christ too seriously. Satan laughs at the sheep being able to hear the Voice of the Good Shepherd for themselves (John 10:27) he would rather  would rather have them listen to some amusing preacher who perversely usurps the place of God the Father in their lives. These leeches also lay heavy burdens on  God’s sheep , heavy burdens God  never authorized!  Satan and his bad preachers continues to rob God’s people of their identity, self worth,  of BEING sons of God, made free in Christ, part of  the House of God.  “Instead, that honor is  bestowed on some multi-million-dollar cathedral funded by TITHES AND OFFERINGS (freewill offerings are fine when necessary to meet REAL needs like feeding the poor and for missions, etc). Satan would far rather get Christians obsessed with remodeling the “sanctuary” (an Old Testament term) to the point where they neglect the care of poor Christians (God’s TRUE house).

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Admittedly, Christians must meet SOMEWHERE, and it might not be workable for the saints to assemble in private homes as they did in the First Century. But the local sheep shed must never be a white elephant on the backs of God’s people who are called to liberty. The REAL truth is the BODIES of God’s people ARE the real House of God (see I Cor.6:19).  Today’s tithing doctrine is an indigestible invention of carnal greedy religious wolves.  Tithing creates resentment and jealousy in the Body of Christ. Tithing turns smiley preachers into shiny-shoed tyrants  Don’t you think the good Lord has feelings too, and preachers oughta treat His property with respect? Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe! ”  The devil just loves this division of haves and have-nots in the institutional church…and  the way I see it, life’s way too short to give credibility to the cold, dead institutional church by paying the tithe tribute to it  “

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” When you’re about to be thrown out onto the street for lack of rent money, you just try to get one of those tithe-collecting tycoons to share with you the way the first century Christians did with those in need. Yeah, right, he’ll “PRAY” for you, that is, if you can get past his entourage of ushers. ” Who likely first will say your are poor cause you alone are at fault, are in sin or the lying, bad  preacher will say you did not give the money to me, you gave it to God and God alone now, next is the one who will pay you, help you.. such hypocrisy too.

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Tithe givers and tithe  Collectors live high on the hog while the poor “pew Christians” struggle to keep food on the table, a roof over their heads.   (I Cor.12:5) Jesus clearly FORBADE the hierarchy (bottom-to-top pecking order) in His Body. He said in Matthew 23:8: But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and ALL YE ARE BRETHREN.  Early Christians gained a reputation among non-believers for loving one another and being charitable toward the poor in their midst.  But that is clearly now how it is these days, these days the privileged few “in ministry” fatten themselves at the expense of the struggling wage slaves out in the pews. Instead of being tenderly cared for by so-called shepherds, poor “pew Christians” get threatened that God’s gonna sick satan on them for failure to pay the preacher his cut before buying groceries and paying the rent.  Satan now loves to see their kids go hungry while poor Christian parents pay tithes “by faith”, sacrificing  the thin sliver of income left after rent, transportation and utilities are taken care of. God is NOT not at all pleased with any of such religious persons.  


 There are yes there now are still too many  false sheep who worship those too many crooked evangelical pastors too dressed in nice suits. Not trying to impress anyone, or showing off I next went to a new church dressed in my clean, regular daily clothes. I next too was surprised when no  one said hello to me nor did they great me, and a few services later this continued to happen. So I prayed about it and to my surprise God said they were harlots, prostitutes. Embarrassed at this revelation I decided I would fully proof for myself this was true. So next Sunday I put on a white shirt, tie, nice black pants, and a white sports jacket and most everyone said hello  to me. Incidentally the same thing happens to me on the bus as well.. Why?  Also the very same pastor of this professing Christian church dressed there in a nice suit who also did not talk to me as well was next charged with abuse, slander, lying, misappropriation of church funds, and was eventually fired. Now these days when I see these peacock members, deacons, ushers  strutting around church in their fancy suits trying to impress the others , it causes me to be sick to my stomach still. It would be better if they used the money rather to help the poor and needy in their own church.

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Satan especially loves this one: Sons become servants who fearfully pay religious tribute, contrary to Gal.4:7 and Jesus’ own words in Matt.17:25-26 where He declares that the children are free (from religious taxation). Tithing severs us from the grace of God by substituting a performance-based relationship with God.  Tithing contributes to the destruction of one’s essential faith, all very much to Satan’s delight.  Tithing also clearly helps corrupt ministers to be led more astray by the lure of more earthly riches.   This tithing sheep-fleecing today firstly all amounts to spiritual fraud. lies, dissentions…

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For we are Christ’s Royal Priesthood (I Pet .2:5,9)  and who are ALREADY seated with Christ in heavenly places (Eph.2:6) and these too often false preachers now would demote us from being freed, slaves of no man,  and also from being Royal priests before the Lord.

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Deut. 12:32: What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: THOU SHALT NOT ADD THERETO, NOR DIMINISH FROM IT.
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(Eccl 10:8 KJV)  He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.
 
(Eccl 10:9 KJV)  Whoso removeth stones shall be hurt therewith; and he that cleaveth wood shall be endangered thereby.
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I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now. 

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(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:

Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
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It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
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When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?

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So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seems

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Many Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..

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(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

 Gal. 5:4: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

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The death of Jesus Christ   ushered in a new, and far better, covenant, making ALL OF the Old Covenant obsolete (Col. 2:20-22; Heb.8:13). Christians are not under the Law (Gal.5:18). The Law of Moses WAS, is a package deal.  If you TRY TO NOW “covenant with God” to keep tithing, or any part of the Law of Moses, you make yourself a debtor to do the whole Law (Galatians 5:3). and instead of bringing a blessing, the tithing could make you fall from the grace of God, which would bond you to the application of the whole law and thus falling from grace means you cease to rely solely on Christ’s Sacrifice of Himself for your sins next  to remain justified before a just and Holy God. You began your spiritual journey by faith and you also still do have to continue it by faith (Gal.3:3).  Any religious act, regardless of how “holy” it seems, performed to earn or keep salvation, likley now next would be a one-way ticket to hell! Tithing thus also is the stumbling stone to the modern churches.  Reliance on works of the Law is deadly, contrary  to the saving faith in Christ!

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Gal.3:10: For as many as are of the works of the law are UNDER THE CURSE: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in ALL things which are written in the book of the law to do them (This includes such ordinances as circumcision, animal sacrifices, keeping the Sabbath, the Day of Atonement fast, letting your beard grow, covering every container in your house (Numbers 19:15)!
Verse 11: But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

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Verse 12: AND THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Verse 13: Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

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“Preachers are committing   sin by adding Tithing on Wages, NOWHERE taught even under the Old Law!  Preachers latch onto the ten per cent figure because it seems like a good idea, regardless of what God thinks.  But they neglect the Israelites’ third-year tithe taken to feed the poor (Deut.14:28-29).  When was the last time any preacher ever told you to go buy a six-pack of Bud with some of your tithe money?  Why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses in Malachi 3?  Why don’t preachers ever mention THIS tithing passage?  It’s in the Bible!  I didn’t put it there, so don’t blame ME!

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Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Verse 23: And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Verse 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Verse 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Verse 26: AND THOU SHALT BESTOW THAT MONEY FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL LUSTETH AFTER, FOR OXEN, OR FOR SHEEP, OR FOR WINE, OR FOR STRONG DRINK, OR FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL DESIRETH: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household

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Notice, tithed produce was sometimes turned into money (the ONLY context in which money is associated with tithing in Scripture), but money itself was not turned in as the tithe!  Instead, the tithing farmer or rancher only bought more food with it when he got to Jerusalem, some of which he consumed himself! Tithe-collecting preachers not only ADD TO what God commanded in His Word, they DIMINISH (take away) from God’s Word by forbidding us to go out and buy Bacardi Breezers with “tithe money”.  Old sluefoot is thrilled when money-hungry preachers tamper with the terms and conditions of God’s Law, because in Revelation 22:19 God promised to disinherit those who added to or subtracted from Scripture. When preachers say you can’t buy wine or strong drink with “tithe money” they’re actually taking away from Scripture!

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Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe!
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Besides robbing god’s people of their blood-bought freedom from the Law, what OTHER victories does satan win through tithing on monetary wages, which is NOWHERE taught in all of scripture?   http://www.scribd.com/doc/4617708/Fasting-Tithing-Blessing-Bringers-or-Burdens  
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” The Law is NOT of faith. God  (see Isa. 64:6 to see what God thinks of our best efforts to behave). If you want to know what kind of curses can fall on people who fail to keep God’s Old Law perfectly, just read Deuteronomy Chapter 28!  Bereavement, sickness, deep poverty, mental distress, defeat in every area of life.  Things didn’t improve for us after I gave all my pennies to the preacher.  We had one run of bad luck after another and I wondered why God ignored my prayers for prosperity.  Now that I’ve dumped a lot of religious baggage out of my Christian life, Jesus is more precious to me and life is a lot sweeter. It gladdens satan’s evil heart to see the profound spiritual damage done to Christians through forced tithing. ”  http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/ 
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” The Lord would say unto a certain caustic-tongued preacher who has failed to grow in the knowledge of My Love: I warn you not to hurt My precious lambs out in the pews, or over the air.  You have taken liberties with the tender hearts of my beloved children, even those who cannot discern truth from error.  They stand in awe of you, and latch onto your every word. They are too afraid of you to question anything you say, for many of them are immature and not yet well-trained in the Word of God.

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“Brother Bear”, you have allowed pride and presumption to enter into your life. You have even placed yourself as judge over My people who are suffering trials of deep humiliation, although I said in My Word: Who are you to judge another (Romans 14:4)? And, with the same measure you judge, you shall also be judged (Matthew 7:1-5). Repent of this haughty attitude, or I shall have to allow you to experience some of the same adversity you despise others for enduring.

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You condemn as slothful the poor, even those who set their affections on things above and can truthfully say their inheritance is not of this world.  But I said “Blessed are ye poor, for yours is the kingdom of God (Luke 6:20).”

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But you have reviled the poor (James chapter 2), although My Holy Word makes it clear that I have chosen the poor of this world Who genuinely love Me and rely on Me.  These people, so despised by you,  have been blessed with an extra measure of faith (verse 5).  Though poor in this world’s goods they are heirs of My eternal Kingdom.   Yet you lump them all together as leeches on society, worthless bums who produce nothing and “are just a drain on church resources.” You even take a grudging attitude toward keeping a church pantry for the needy and really think feeding the saints ought to be limited to “spiritual food”, although Jesus divided the loaves and the fishes for a huge crowd as an object lesson to teach them I care for the poor and the hungry. Your real concern is that “spiritual bread” costs less money to break to your flock than material bread.  But James said:  “What good does it do to speak a blessing over your needy brother or sister, unless you also demonstrate practical concern for their bodily needs (James 2:15-16)”?

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You’re being inconsistent, aren’t you, Brother Bear?  You say spiritual food is more important, so preaching  the Word to hearts is a much more valuable task to the Kingdom of God than feeding  hungry mouths.  Still, you set at nought the spiritual contributions made by the poorer saints, just because they aren’t paid for serving the Lord in dollars and cents like you are. But their blessed deeds of devotion are infinitely more precious in My sight than filthy lucre is to you. My Son gave His all to enable people to render such service to Me.

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I have  saints nation-wide and worldwide who are poor in this world’s goods but rich in good works, and already have treasure laid up in heaven. They pray for your ministry, among others.  A few of them even fast, and when these humble souls do eat, their food isn’t nearly so fine as yours. Some of them sing in the choir, or help out in the nursery. Some teach Sunday School, or visit the sick.  And you’ve got the gall to categorize all poor people as worthless bums!

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You lambast your people for their overindulgence in fine food and other luxuries.  Yet you look down on   casually dressed folks and say they don’t have enough self-respect to “dress for success” to help them focus on becoming “prosperous”.  Just what do you mean by that?

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Most likely you would even have despised My appearance, for I was not so smartly decked out as you.  And guess what?  I supplied the wine for a very  special party, and even sampled some of it  myself.  I was accused by ascetic religious leaders of being a “winebibber and a glutton”.  I consorted with harlots and publicans, and, most shocking of all,  I wore a beard and sandals, definitely not in keeping with your code of “conservative values”. You would indeed have considered Me, the Son of God, just another lazy hippie bum  because the day came when I quit toiling in  My carpenter shop and became an itinerant preacher who went forth to spread the Good News of the Kingdom of God, living strictly by faith in  My Father’s provision. You would call Me irresponsible because I quit My secular job before I had saved sufficient funds  to finance My ministry for the forthcoming fiscal year.

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And what would you have thought of John the Baptist?  With his humble garment and shaggy hair, he was hardly an advertisement for your “success gospel”, which the church borrowed from the world to conform the church TO the world!  That unpolished prophet would have been whisked out of your air-conditioned, sanitized sanctuary before he got a word in edgewise.  Rather than preaching the Gospel of Get he said: “Let those who have food or extra clothes share with those who have none.”  Jesus told the rich young ruler to “sell all that you have and give to the poor.”  THEN, “come, follow me.” Neither Jesus nor John ever  jetted around in champagne luxury to tourist traps, such as you’ve done in the past.  Instead of saddling their congregations with a burdensome mortgage in the name of “Christian commitment”, they held church under the open sky.

You roar against the worldliness of the saints,  but what is more worldly in My sight  than to Christianize the most lucrative of the world’s values?  You worship at the altar of monetary prosperity.  You condemn adultery, pornography, and juvenile delinquency, but what about covetousness?  Don’t you covet the “firstfruits” of other people’s paychecks, and compete for first dibs on what your “targeted donor pool” sets aside for TV ministries?  And then you turn round and lampoon poor people for “living below their privileges”.  You contemptuously view such souls as unworthy of My Love.  You think just because they’re struggling financially  they must be suffering My punishment for sin in their lives. Just what do you demand of them? What do you think they must do to live on a par with their so-called privileges? Become just like you, a man  whose angry  face and angrier tongue belie your pleasurable circumstances?

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People on public assistance are one of your favorite targets.  Leeches on society, you call them. Welfare queens. People looking for an easy ride! But look at yourself, with all  your shameless appeals for money, money, money, and ever more money. Your kind are the biggest welfare recipients of all, but it’s respectable because you do it in the name of “God”!!

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You commit yourself to exorbitant purchases “for the kingdom of God”, then go crying and begging on TV, expecting your “partners in ministry” to bail you out of a debt you incurred without first consulting them.  Have you ever once tried the same tonic you prescribe for others, tightening your belt and “being a responsible steward”?  Must your ministry always run on the latest technology, or are you just keeping up a prosperous front? Why not just postpone your next luxury cruise to the Lands of the Bible, or make your old suit do an extra year? How about a little macaroni and cheese instead of all those fancy restaurant meals? It won’t kill you! How about driving a used car to make it easier to catch up on your bills? Won’t a cheaper watch tell you it’s time to start your service? I am no respecter of persons. I think religious opportunists fishing for funds in fancy attire have much more to apologize for than jobless  people in faded denims!

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Now the shoe’s on the other foot!  How does it feel to be on the receiving end of correction for a change? If you think you’re above being reproved through My humble mouthpiece, you are failing My test of humility and need to seek My forgiveness for pride as well.

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How dare you treat My precious children like scavenging dogs!  You have never once walked one mile in the shoes of the people out in the pews!  No,  not since the days of your youth; especially  not since your rise to nationwide prominence as an “expositor of the Word of God”!

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What practical use do you make of your Bible?  You wave it above your head to show your underlings who’s boss, then you glare menacingly at them and lay into the “laity” (a man-made distinction in My Body).  You turn the House of the Lord into one  vast woodshed to beat My poor people who must struggle from  paycheck to paycheck so you can skim the  “tithes” off their gross income, plus offerings.  That amounts to bondservice to you, their rich overlord.  Many of them cede to you at least one-seventh or one-eighth of their after-taxes take-home pay BEFORE they even put food on their own tables to feed their own families!  How does THAT square with My teaching that I would rather have mercy than sacrifice! And even though I never ONCE commanded New Testament saints to tithe on money, you threaten them with My retribution if they don’t!

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Have you ever once really gotten to know one of your poorer listeners, either in your palatial sanctuary or out in TV Land?  Do you even know how ordinary folk live, or has your affluence blinded you to the way  everyday people must  struggle to survive?  Do you know what it is to set aside your own well-being and carry the sorrows of the afflicted, like the Good Shepherd does?  More than one of your listeners has suffered devastating health problems, or is struggling to raise children alone as a single parent. Many a poor woman cries herself to sleep at night because she’s lost her husband to death or divorce, or perhaps the fellow has run away from his responsibilities as husband and father, and has left her to carry the whole load alone. She dreads the bills the morning mail may bring.  She wonders how she’ll ever meet her rent and child care expenses, how she’ll keep her lights on, how she’ll put food on the table or buy decent school clothes. Her life is a wearisome treadmill. She wonders how long her stamina will last, until the day comes she is too sick to work and might become homeless or destitute. Are you going to call such precious souls lazy just because satan has sent the devourer to sap their physical and financial health and strength?

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Once I heard you bellowing:  “There’s twelve hours in a working day,  six working days, and 72 hours in a working  week!  Get to work!” You looked mad, but my, you enjoyed that. But how hard do YOU work, privileged one? I don’t see YOU slaving at a secular job 72 hours a week, Brother Bear. And when people do put in very long working hours, you gripe about how they  neglect their marriages and their kids and fail  to spend “quality time”  with them. Are you so poor at math that you can’t subtract your ideal working week from what’s left? Do YOU have lots of time to be with YOUR family, or are you a slave to the clock; someone who hates his monotonous way of life but who is expected to drag himself out of bed half-rested, then work two jobs.  Why?  Well, it isn’t cheap to  maintain that image of “prosperity” you demand of people.  Some NEED an extra paycheck in order  to  “tithe” on the first one and still have enough money to pay spiraling rent on an apartment which is barely lived in.  It’s just a spot for the slave to crash for a few short hours before a screeching alarm clock rings and  the same old grind starts again!

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You really think money should come with great difficulty for everybody else except  those “in ministry”.  After all, grueling toil is the price tag for being descended from sinful Adam and Eve.  But you’re just as sinful as anybody in your congregation, and deep inside you know it, Brother Bear. Still, you have no qualms about enjoying YOUR fine clothes, YOUR perks, YOUR regular jaunts (first-class, of course) to the Holy Land to “get closer to Jesus”. But all you want is to go there to get a religious buzz.  How can you get to know Jesus better  if you refuse to see Me in the faces of the poor who fill your pews, or in the aching weariness of the tired grey masses trekking home each night from their very unglamorous jobs?

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No, I don’t see YOU swinging a hammer or waiting on cranky customers in restaurants, or driving a bus. I don’t see YOU sitting up all night with a sick child before having to go to work early the next morning. Rather,  I see you pleading over the air to “prove God” by sending in your best offering, and you’ll gladly  reward the givers with a cheap trinket to say “thank you” for your “love gift to Jesus”.

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How demanding you are, like Pharaoh. He reached the point where he demanded his slaves go find their own straw to make bricks with, and doubled their quota too.  You wouldn’t be bothered by some young mother being so overburdened by long working hours she scarcely has time to see her children. You don’t care if some  elderly woman  skips a couple of meals to “save your ministry”. My people are mortgaged to the hilt, and harnessed to the expenses of your ministry.  They can’t be everywhere at once, yet I hear you bellowing about  their lack of service “to the Lord”, their reluctance to get involved in church activities and personal evangelism.  I hear you whining about how the saints are “at ease in Zion”.

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But if anybody’s at ease, it’s you and other “shepherds” who fleece the flock.  You hypocrite!  Any wise shepherd  will let his animals wear their own wool in the winter to keep warm, so they won’t perish from cold.  But you are cold-hearted enough to fleece My flock at all seasons, regardless of the sad shape they’re in.  You couldn’t care less about their sorrows.  You’re like one of those Simon Legree slave drivers of the Old South who  refused to provide medical care and proper food for his slaves, reasoning that it was cheaper to wear out a slave and replace him, than to waste resources to care for him.  You know that when people get fed up enough to stop coming to your services, other trusting souls who don’t know any better will take their place out in the pews!

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Your sour face masks the enjoyment you get out of your  ministry of meanness. You make a real meal of it, don’t you, Brother Bear?  Speaking of eating, you made an attack on your women disciples who aren’t skinny enough to suit you. Why do you think female fat is a deadlier sin than YOUR fat?

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How dare YOU, of all people, preach on physical fitness, or berate people for not fasting enough for your ministry?  YOUR bank account has gotten so fat from fleecing the poor and profiteering off people’s ignorance  that I think it’s a far greater sin to be a fatcat than a stout woman. I much prefer to see someone raid the fridge to dig  into a pint of Haagen-Dazs and “enjoy the guilt” than to see the likes of you raiding widow’s houses and digging into innocent Christians’ consciences and pockets, then enjoying all the guilt trips you lay on people who genuinely desire a closer walk with Me. People who desperately hope and pray  I am not really like you!

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Where, oh  where do you ever once read that I  hold women to this world’s measurements of beauty while excusing men from them? Show Me the Scripture! Have YOU looked in the mirror lately, and judged YOURSELF against your own narrow definition of physical fitness?  Remember what I said about first getting rid of the log in your own eye before picking at the speck in your neighbor’s eye! You get my drift. Your sexist double standards wound emotionally vulnerable women who have already been burnt by the Establishment’s dieting and slimness manifesto.  They don’t need to have more of that demonic drivel   crammed down their throats at church.  Rather, the fellowship of the saints is supposed to be a refuge from the oppression of the carnal  cultural edicts of a sex-crazed, money-mad world system.  A system which manipulates the minds of the masses and profits off the very same insecurities it instills in them.  You prefer your pews to be full of “successful-looking” saints whose outward appearance advertises the popular  Prosperity doctrine which has served you so well. Trim and businesslike, smart-looking, reassuringly refined and “nice”.

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Well, the hour on My prophetic clock is precariously late  and I don’t have time to put up with your perverse games anymore.  I’m not going to waste My precious time mincing words, either. I have said the things which are highly esteemed in the sight of man are an abomination in My sight (Luke 16:15).  That includes the self-aggrandizement and snobbery of mankind; all its egotistical pride in wealth, social status, or glamor..

I genuinely suspect you’d feel frustrated if your parishioners were closer to perfection than yourself.  It delights you to make them squirm as you  snarl abuse down at them and rob them not only of their human dignity but  the contents of their wallets. Now I’m going to shout back at you, Brother Bear:  Before you come back to My table demanding dessert,  let your poor slaves eat!

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When you invent new ways to heap  condemnation on My people you hinder My own work of healing bruised hearts. At present, I’m not getting much help from you. Nothing frustrates my grace more than some sharp-tongued preacher ripping into sensitive souls which really need the Oil of Joy for the spirit of heaviness,  the healing balm of the Love of Christ for emotional bruises, and the Power of the Blood of the Lamb to gain victory over every assault of the enemy, including nagging feelings of worthlessness and inadequacy.  Don’t you dare deny that My people are precious in My sight, or bring them under bondage to condemnation.  They are My heritage which I have purchased with My own precious  Blood.

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You have used your chastening rod to drive many sheep back out into the wilderness of the world. With force and with cruelty you have ruled them (Ezekiel 34:4).  People just got so disgusted with your vituperative tongue and continual carping that they left to go look for a new guru. These unstable souls were unable to differentiate between bullies in the pulpit and Christ, Who is meek and lowly in heart; the gentle, merciful Savior Whose yoke is easy and Whose burden is light.

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Your greatest delight has been not to show forth My love, but to “give lukewarm Christians a kick in the pants to spur them on to greater holiness”.  But that is not My way.  I am a loving Father, not a  slave driver wielding a whip.

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There were times you actually forgot all about the offering and felt like your motives for performing your ministry were noble, and no one else could fill your place.  In the beginning people thought your approach was like a breath of fresh air, after all the mealy-mouthed, double-tongued preachers they’d listened to before.  Until your words hit home hard and hurt them too much.

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In your misguided  zeal you have laid many grievous burdens upon My precious sheep, which I never authorized you to do. Yet you would never touch one of these burdens with a ten-foot pole (Matthew 23:4). Just how long could you last, if I placed on your neck just one of the burdens so many of My people “out in the pews” are under? Could YOU work a nurse’s double shift, or slave on an assembly line all day?  How could YOU cope with feeling like your precious years were going down the drain and you felt frustrated, and saw yourself as just another cog in a machine at some factory,  living to work, rather than working to live ? How would YOU feel if YOUR boss fired you for some trivial reason, and YOU spent many weary weeks searching for a new job? Why should  poor people have to suffer your caustic criticisms on top of everything else they have to contend with daily!!!!!

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Brother Bear, you’re at it again from your bully pulpit.  In times past you’ve lambasted My people over the head with misapplied Scriptures and vain traditions of men in order to FORCE them to pay unscriptural “tithes” on their paychecks and wages.  With FORCE and with CRUELTY many fat, well-fed  pharaohs have ruled My people (Ezek.34:4). Brother Bear, you’ve even threatened My people with the fires of hell for “robbing god” (yourself?) and you’ve sent many hard-working single moms and unemployed parents to bed weeping that I couldn’t give to them unless they shelled out the cash FIRST to PAY for those blessings. The riches of My infinite love which I FREELY share with My beloved children have been substituted for EARTHLY prosperity which I SELL to fearful, cringing, begging slaves in exchange for painful sacrifices!

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Your LATEST vendetta is against stay-at-home dads who lovingly babysit their own kids instead of toiling at some  “secular” job.  Which planet are you on, anyway? Are you so out of touch with this economic recession that you begrudge some family the extra income a better-educated and better-qualified wife can bring in?  The Virtuous Woman of Proverbs 31 was capable of rolling up her sleeves and bringing in the bacon when necessary.  And if she DOES go out to work to save the family home from foreclosure, who’s gonna stay home and mind the children? It’s a catch-22 situation, Brother Bear. The man’s wages would BARELY be enough to pay for a substitute baby-sitter.  So why would it be far better for him to leave his own precious children to the care of strangers who may not even be Christian? Are YOU gonna shell out money for the man’s nursery fees out of your own extra fat so he can afford to go back to work at his low-paid job and actually get to contribute a meaningful amount to the household budget?  When hell freezes over! You FOREVER beg the “pew Christians” for extra “offerings” and “tithes” to finance something the “church” needs, but they would NEVER EVEN THINK of showing up on your own doorstep to ask for help in time of need.  Some of them have never even some within a few feet of you to say “hello”.  What kind of shepherd are you, anyway?  A good shepherd KNOWS his own sheep (John 10:14)..  Read Ezekiel 34 for a precise description of yourself! The Good Shepherd doesn’t beat the stuffing out of his sheep when they’re down, he HEALS them!  Now you’re telling that poor stay-at-home dad he’s going to fry in hell for all eternity in unquenchable fire with satan and his demons while you go to yet another heaven for yet another easy life.  Unless you repent and come to My Son for forgiveness and cleansing, Brother Bear, don’t bank on it! Don’t you realize My Son warned that if you called your brother “raca” (worthless) you’d be in danger of My divine judgment council (Matt.5:22)?

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Why is it that if this same “Mr. MOM” was being PAID to run a day-care center to babysit OTHER PEOPLE’S KIDS you wouldn’t even think of calling  him a “lazy bum on his way to hell”, but since he’s not earning a solitary cent by keeping his OWN kids, he’s committing an unforgivable sin?  I would charge that man with the sin of slothfulness if he laid around on the couch all day guzzling on a beer watching TV while his kids ran wild.  But there’s a lot of GOOD Christian dads out there, Brother Bear, who deal with the REAL world as it is today in the best way they can. How can YOU possibly relate to the real world, son, where dads are a WELCOME extra pair of loving arms to cradle a sick baby while his tired wife takes a well-earned break? Do YOU ever get tired, Brother Bear? Do YOU have servants in all those fancy mansions you possess to make your life sweet and easy?  Or do you at least own a dishwasher, to clean the backlog of sour, grime-encrusted dishes generated by a houseful of rambunctious youngsters?  What about the yardwork that always needs doing, or the things that get broken around the house which the woman of the house doesn’t have the expertise to fix?  Maybe the woman’s real short and can’t even reach that broken electrical fixture!  Maybe the woman’s way too WEAK to lift heavy furniture or appliances that need tending to.  Anybody, whether male or female, who cares for a houseful of kids all day long and does the job conscientiously and well gets My reward and commendation, not My condemnation!

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You forget, Brother Bear, that before the Industrial Revolution, it wasn’t unusual for men to work “at home”.  Adam and Eve worked together at similar tasks in the Garden of Eden.  Adam didn’t grab a sack lunch and hop onto an express bus to Smog City to toil in some factory.  My own earthly foster father Joseph ran his carpentry shop just a few steps away from our living quarters.  In an emergency situation Joseph could lay down his tools awhile and lend Mary a hand to help with some unusual problem Mary herself was too weak to take care of.  Unless he was away on a special job or had to go get supplies, My foster father did not “commute” to his daily employment.  Whenever necessary My mother could even come into the carpenter’s shop to help hold down a plank while her husband sawed.  She could help him clear light debris out of the shop and help make it tidy.  That’s what being a family is all about, Brother Bear. Sharing and caring, not accumulating a stockpile of money.  Each member of the family helps out the other when one of them is overwhelmed or needs the special expertise of some better qualified member of the family.  I care more about sharing and caring and bearing one another’s burdens in love than I do about sticking to traditional role models in the workplace.  So long as a husband does what he can WHEN he can and displays love, tenderness, godliness and courage in caring for his family, I find no fault in the way he carries out his role.

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OR, could it possibly be that you have ulterior motives for questioning the masculinity of the house-husbands of your congregation?  You know full well that in being a cook, dishwasher, cleaner, launderer, shopper, meal-planner, baby-sitter, errand-runner, football coach, secretary, and amateur doctor for his family, that man’s services must be worth at least a five-figure sum, though he is FREELY giving these services out of love.  Even if the man’s wife is a qualified university professor making a six-figure salary, you gripe about the fact that only ONE tithe check will be coming your way from that household instead of two! Ideally, you’d love to have TWO slaves out there working their guts out to make life cushier for you, wouldn’t you, Brother Bear? When was the last time you sent a sympathy card to the family of some member of your congregation who died prematurely because of job-related stress or poverty?

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You yell about the breakup of the American family, but who are YOU to point the finger of accusation?  You left the wife of your youth for a younger, fresher face.  You committed adultery against a loving wife who had bore you some lovely children, then remarried the object of your affections, having a second family with her.  I love ALL your children and will do My utmost to see to it that they all have a fighting chance to make it to heaven, since they are ALL precious in My sight.  Yet the fact remains that you’re continuing in the ministry, contrary to  I Tim.3:2, Titus 1:6 and Mark 10:11, which plainly states that in putting away your first wife without just cause and remarrying another you’re living in sin.  John the Baptist warned King Herod that it wasn’t lawful for him to have Herodias, yet you could care less about that Biblical example and think it’s only for other people.  You ignore My Word as you pamper your flesh and do what you want.  At the same time you excoriate the members of your congregation for being lazy, unspiritual and selfish with their money!

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When was the last time you thanked your people for all  their loving support? Without  the little people out there in the pews, you’d be out of a job, and you’d have to toil for your daily bread like them. It takes far more faith to live without money than with with it. Have you ever once thanked your people for getting up early on their one day off (for many of them), getting themselves and their children ready, wolfing down a hurried breakfast, then braving  traffic jams and all kinds of weather on Sunday, which is supposedly a day of rest?

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My Love is gentle and meek, but  about the only gentleness they ever get from you is the deceptively mild warmup to your real sermon, which builds into a roaring crescendo of rankling bitterness. Finally, your pent-up anger  bursts out and you let My people know what you really do think of them. They’re just “lazy hot-tub saints who’d be lucky to get the strip off a tin can as a crown on Judgment Day”. But what kind of a crown do YOU expect for browbeating your fellow-servants in your Master’s absence, then making a tidy pile for being an overbearing bear? (Matthew 24: 48-51).

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Even newborn babies fresh from heaven aren’t spared your  bile. I blessed little children and babies, but you call them little vipers who will grow up to be juvenile delinquents unless they’re treated with a firm hand from the youngest age, though all tiny infants want is to be loved and cherished.

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If anybody enters your church feeling like a special,  beloved child  of God, you know how to break him of that habit in a hurry.   I am extremely patient with babes in Christ who simply don’t know any better than to overzealously pick at each other, especially about issues that are  cultural obsessions of a fallen world, not actual sins.  But you, a man who was converted a long time ago, have used your power and influence to make the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad (Ezekiel 13:22a).

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Old hurts you suffered as a young boy are still festering deep in your soul. Others misunderstood you and were impatient with you, even your own over strict dad.  So now you feel driven to perpetuate your unresolved hurt by lashing out at your own congregation and nitpicking at everything which doesn’t fit into your confused notion of what a church should be.  Rather than insulting some wounded woman out in the pews and reducing her to tears, you really should bring all your old hurts to me, dear son, and I would do a miracle of healing and restoration deep in your soul. I would help you to forgive your earthly father, the one you’re really angry at; a misguided man who hurt you by always being quick to discipline you, even before he knew the full story of what had happened. Ask Me to teach you how to love before it’s everlastingly too late to undo the damage which has already been done.

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Grow up, or you’ll be ashamed when you stand before My Judgment Seat.  Repent of your hardheartedness now.  Why should you have to stand tongue-tied before the Bema Judgment Seat and watch your work of discouraging the saints go up in smoke?”

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id88.html

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“Whenever preachers give even passive acceptance to hero worship from Christians they’re manifesting a spirit of Antichrist (instead of Christ).  By lording it over their flocks as gods, they’re promoting IDOLATRY in God’s people and causing Christ’s little ones to stumble (Matt.18:6). Peter instructs true ministers of God to have a humble attitude, not to be greedy of carnal gain, and not to exalt themselves as lords over God’s heritage (I Pet.5:2-4). 

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Lust for power and money has caused the spiritual ruin of many a preacher and shipwrecked many souls who invested time and treasure in his message.:

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I have called you out of the darkness of bondage into the perfect liberty of My Spirit. I have set you free from the cruel despotic, slave masters, bad pastors too, unto your full freedom, liberty in my son Jesus Christ made available to you by his death for all of your sins too.  Stay free.  Note Jeremiah 17:7 which warns of a curse upon those who trust in man rather than God.

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II Cor.3:6  Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but the spirit: for THE LETTER KILLETH, but the spirit giveth life.  

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VERSE 7  But if THE MINISTRATION OF DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVEN IN STONES, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away; 

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VERSE 8  How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 

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VERSE 9  For if THE MINISTRATION OF CONDEMNATION be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 

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Acts 20:29: For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

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Rom. 8:1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.

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(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
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 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

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Open rebuke is better than secret love. Those who sin rebuke before all, doing nothing by partiality, and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke before all as well. I   post  much of these facts, truths openly to all presently so they will all even repent today. 
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Fundamentals evangelists have been proven right, Alcohol is dangerous, leads also to cancer. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/

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1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your  adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may  devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions  are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.10 But the God of all  grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye  have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 11 To  him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty joined   brewery manager Colin O’Brien, and supply director Paul Armstrong at the Guinness brew house. http://www.canada.com/Stephen+Harper+Irish+adventures/8532787/story.html

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I rightfully  do not put up with any crooked cops, bad pastors, crooks and  I readily call the police, expose them , demand openly their full prosecution, dismissal too. Originally I gave many of them the doubt, but now I am convinced that most of them are deliberate, conscious crooks, specifically “hirelings” who should be fired, dismissed
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I also had sent my complaint to major news editors, major MPs, all the members of the legislatures in 4 major provinces now as well asking the government to deal with the false solicitation of funds, tithes under lies by any of the crooked evangelical pastors too. 
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 Now at lest even the bad pastors also least cannot deny the fact they were given a chance to repent.. for it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. I have fired many pastors, seen the white terror on their wives faces when they also do see me.. they have the holy shakes, a spirit of holy fear..  the present public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s’ best interest still.  I think we can agree that people world wide will read these posts,   and  that they will be upset by it and prosperity and properly respond to it too in Jesus name..
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While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
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 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
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do see also

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/neither-give-place-to-the-devil/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/abused.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/forgiveness.htm

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As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  (Prov 31:8 KJV)  “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9    Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.
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No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Ask also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
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I TOO  still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
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For all the fundamental evangelical Christians who say that PM Stephen Harper DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.. HERE IS THE REALITY “VANCOUVER, B.C. – It seems U.S. President Barack Obama owes Prime Minister Stephen Harper a few cold ones. The two leaders had a friendly bet on the outcome of Sunday’s gold-medal Olympic hockey game.   Team Canada came out on top, so Obama will have to pick up a 24-pack of Molson Canadian for the prime minister. Harper would have had to buy Obama a case of Yuengling beer if the U.S. had taken the top honour at the tournament. Team USA beat Team Canada in the first match-up between the two countries in the preliminary rounds, but Canada came out on top in a heart-stopping overtime round on Sunday. Harper was at the game in Vancouver but Obama did not make an appearance at the Olympics. The prime minister met with the gold medal winners in the locker room after the game to congratulate them. “
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/obama-owes-harper-a-few-brews-after-canada-takes-us-in-olympic-hockey-85784877.html
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I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THE LYING US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OBAMA SUPPORTER HAD SAID THAT CHRISTIAN OBAMA DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL..
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 I had attended a recent comical church service,  New Beginnings Ministry 9412 Rue Clement Lasalle, QC H8R1T5 Phone: (514) 363-1080., a farcical circus, not the first time now too,  where  Stéphane Chauvette Associate Pastor was preaching about everything, bashing everyone else, but somehow he could not keep his own promises, his  own word, or stay on a specific valid subject. And he made it clear if you  rock his boat he will next also kick you off the ship..  The  hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of this New Life Beginnings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly  now  for us not to believe any of the news media and for us not to  have anything to do with any person who drinks wine, and to stand up against all of the people who do any wrong, to even openly speak to them, ( as long as it is not the pastor himself  for sure) and yet he lied and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him.. for next  I thus told him that our PM stephen Harper the supposedly good Christian now drinks beer/wine..  well  next the pastor really got upset at me..  since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refused to further talk with me  and said  he was tired now, he  refuses to hear any of that, he refuses to believe any of that, for that is all gossip,  slanders, and also we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for this supposedly Christ like church and their false professing Christian love, false brotherly love, their supposed openness now, and one’s free speech too..
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(Luke 19:45 KJV) And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought; 46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

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Most preachers today who sell the gospel for money tend to be still false themselves too. Neither Jesus Christ, His apostles, nor any early Church Christians sold any portion of the Gospel to others, rather they clearly gave freely to all others in need..

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I have been preaching freely the Gospel of the New Testament, Jesus Christ freely for over 50 years and I have never taken even one church offering or have asked for any money for doing so..

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The Old Testament and the New Testament tells many an account of the false prophets who now also had betrayed God, Jesus for money..http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper is not a real Evangelical Christian

For all you naive, seduced born again evangelicals who do still think that Stephen Harper is an evangelical Christian, most of you real Evangelicals do agree that drinking beer is  an unacceptable sin but
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Stephen Harper offers a pint of beer he poured at the Red Stag tavern during a campaign stop in Halifax, Thursday March 31, 2011”.
… Harper flunked the Christianity test even..
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SECRET or not so secret TITHING

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Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

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(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

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(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

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God does not need your money, he wants all of you rather.  Apostle Paul clearly made the decision to follow Jesus alone in all that he did, living by faith now too. Paul did not preach tithing at all.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/and-who-do-you-follow-jesus-or/

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Matthew 6

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly

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Tithing – giving  10 percent of all of their incomes supposedly directly to God, but today  Tithing preaching is evil in many ways.. it is a false attempt to enslave us under a false obedience to the  false laws.. Old Testament laws that we are not obligated to follow as Christians.   ”Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant and was compulsory upon the people who worshiped God ( upon Jews only).
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Abraham was not a Jew so he did not tithe. The nation of Jews came at a later date.
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Genesis 16 And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not.17 And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.18 And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.19 And he called the name of that place Bethel: but the name of that city was called Luz at the first.20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,21 So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God’s house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
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Tithing today also  is a  mechanism used by most Pastors to steal God’s money and for them use it where they want, not where God wants it to be used
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It was interesting that Rev George Mueller was able to raise millions of dollars by donation, without once sharing and his the needs publicly too. He exercised  his faith in God, verb- Use or apply (a faculty, right, or process),  and prayed secretly for all his needs unlike the many false hirelings in the Ministry today who have their eyes on people and not God

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/
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Now my God has already promised to   supply all your needs by Jesus Christ already so why do you want to even tithe  firstly? what are your real motives in doing so?
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While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do now  tithe,  and  which too often they can still be a wrong reason, even selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or even showing off, boasting.
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Do note also that like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!
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see also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/about-those-hirelings-now-fleecing-the-sheep/;
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Now about Tithing in the old Testament.. as it is no longer found in the New Testament basically..
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Under the new covenant we are not bound by arbitrary laws; but the principles of right and wrong, as expressed by the law, are fulfilled in the believer’s life through grace. Grace should produce as much as or more than law demanded. Regular systematic giving is clearly taught in the New Testament. It is known as the grace of giving.   The gauge or rule of this systematic giving is defined in the Old Testament, known as the law of tithing. All Christians should conscientiously and systematically tithe their income to God  ( ? )”
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The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada, PAOC also now CLEARLY LIES, IS GUILTY OF MISLEADING, FALSE  STATEMENTS TO ALL CANADIANS TO OBTAIN DONATIONS, by even saying Jesus requires us all to tithe.
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(Lev 27:30 KJV)  And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD. 31  And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.  32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
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(Mal 3:10 KJV)  Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
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(2 Cor 9:6 -15 KJV)  But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.    And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:    (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.    Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)    Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.   For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;   Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;  And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you. Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
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While I was able to agree with most of   the PAOC doctrines, statements of faith, next the glaring biblical distortion of the emphasis on the compulsory tithing was  unacceptable. So is their false support of divorce now too.
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Here also there was glaring inconsistency in the preaching OF TITHING over the actual practice, specially even related to the partial biblical quotes now too.. where clearly there is a direct reference as tithing being applicable to help the poor persons. which in fact is not being practiced in realty for a start at all even  the definite Biblical requirement that 1/7 of the tithes belongs directly to the local  poor persons..
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SO IF YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN TITHING THEN YOU MUST BELIEVE IN HELPING THE LOCAL POOR PEOPLE WITH IT. AND WE CAN ALL SEE THE EVIDENCE IF IT TOO.
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*The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada CHURCH is a Fellowship of more than 1,100 churches across English- and French-speaking Canada.  http://www.paoc.org/info@paoc.org
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The New Testament  Epistles are full of discussions about giving for the support  of  preachers, teachers, and also the giving to the poor persons: but no where do now in realty do any of the  Apostles ask for the tithes  directly or indirectly! Will somebody still please show me where in the New Testament we can next find  any of the New testament Believers in Christ believers paying tithes specifically, or any of the Apostles asking for tithes? Well? Where? It does  not exist in fact!
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In reality the Old Testament Book of Malachi the one most often used a reference to application of tithing in the PAOC CHURCH today firstly was written directly ironically too to the bad priests who were stealing the tithe that all belongs to God firstly. The earth is the Lord’s, and every thing in it, the world, and all who live in it. (Psalm 24:1).
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The book of  Malachi firstly is about the prophet Malachi  is rebuking the bad priests, the  Levites. The tithe payable by the Levites, and main subject is not the tithes payable by the people was the issue, the unpaid tithe here. Ironic that the tithe collection is still too often being abused too often today as well by the PAOC Church  , pastors.
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“The pastors of the PAOC  Church pastors have too often abused  the tithe, stole the TITHE monies, and I had often now turned them into the the authorities myself too , including the PAOC  Calgary Christian centre as I have also detailed on the net to all why too.
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For decades now too I have known many PAOC Christians who boasted to me of their tithing while they continued to commit immoral, unacceptable acts. Tithing was a part of the Old Testament  law, and not the New Testament Covenant.
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It is again interesting that those who believe we must enforce  tithe today that they do not follow the entire letter of the law in this matter in their preaching of the  New Testament, new  Covenant for  the law required also several tithes, including tithing to the local poor persons, all which would amount to considerably more than ten percent.
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Also now according to the same Bible all persons who received any portions of the tithes now too were not allowed to own any property as well.  False Boasting, faith by works  is too often associated with tithing AND WE ARE NOT TO WALK  “Not of works, lest any man should boast.”  Ephesians 5:9
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We too often hear Church sermons on the need to give money to the local storehouse, supposedly the local church, under the heading of tithing being even applicable today? Now is it? How come most of the hypocrites, liars who preach on the demands of the laws of tithing today neglect to firstly themselves to practice on all of the other inclusive laws related to tithing as well. Or are they deliberately or undeliberately  ignorant of these other applicable Biblical laws?
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Just cause a person tithes, does not mean he is spiritual, more likely he is still even coming tax evasion, cheating, steal, abusing  in my personal witness and experiences even in the PAOC churches now. (Psa 112:9 KJV)  He hath dispersed, he hath given to the poor; his righteousness endureth for ever; his horn shall be exalted with honour.
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(Acts 15:14 KJV)  Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15  And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16  After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17  That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18  Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
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Firstly the promised restoration of the tabernacle of David mentioned in the book of Acts is not the restoration of tithing, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, any land of Israel now too, and it was, is not for sure a nationalistic Israel empire building..
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The promised restoration of the tabernacle of David  is solely foremost  by the substitutionary innocent death of Jesus Christ next actually is the experience of the personal “Baptism of the Holy Spirit”, Pentecostalism, and the restoration of the related personal method of the worship of God directly, David danced before the Lord, and thus also  it is not just the formation of CHRIST’S Church.(John 4:23 KJV)  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth..
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Too many even professing Christian persons are not familiar with the Bible , THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THEY THUS DO HAVE A FALSE UNDERSTANDING OF JESUS CHRIST, Tithing, etc., Most persons do not know the Bible really well, in fact they really have not  studied the Bible still firsthand and sadly most people wrongfully rely mostly,  heavily on what  the others do  tell them even as to the supposed truth in  regard to tithing in  the Bible..
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Too often I had  entered a PAOC church for the first time and I was greeted by the pastor and he wanted immediately to know where I was working, what kind of work I and he did not at all ask rather about my poor health which had prevented me from working at that time. Now also I CLEARLY SAW THE GLIMMER IN THE HE PASTOR EYES COUNTING THE POTENTIAL INCOME. HE WRONGFULLY HAD HIS EYES ON MAN TO SUPPLY HIS NEEDS AND NOT GOD.
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Other Christians, even a church secretary even,  bragged to me that they were paid up in the annual tithe but admitted to me they also had not paid all of the taxes cause they had committed tax evasions, for after all their pastor now had did the same thing. (Luke 20:25 KJV)  And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.
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THE SUBJECT OF  TITHING OFTEN CAUSES SOME PERSONS GREAT STRESS AND EVEN CHURCH DIVISIONS, FALSE  PERSECUTIONS AS WELL.
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(1 Tim 6:10 KJV)  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
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IT IS NOT YOUR TITHING THAT WILL BLESS YOU FIRSTLY BUT IT IS GOD HIMSELF.. (Prov 10:22 KJV) The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.
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IT IS TRUE, A FACT THAT FOR  many years many people have been looking even for the one Bible verse that would make them rich and famous too. AND TOO MANY  PEOPLE ARE LEAD FALSELY TO BELIEVE THAT TITHING WILL LEAD TO, GUARANTEE  FINANCIAL PROSPERITY.
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Well prosperity that now happens one day at a time with our walk with Jesus, it is firstly a spiritual one, for we are rich in Him and famous for our great exploits through Him as well not rather solely Money, the love of which is the root of all evil still.. I am also tired of hearing from the persons who wrongfully distort, take one isolated verse about prosperity being wealth, money and they do also wrongfully leave out all of the rest of the Bible verses that speak on giving to the poor and needy, about overall true prosperity and not just more  money now as well.. these type of preachers it seems are  wrongfully mostly selfish and unbalanced persons still, not real loving Christians also.
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(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.prospering  greatly in the Lord firstly? with personal visible good works too? good works on behalf of others, the poor and needy persons too?
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(2 Cor 8:1 KJV)  Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; 2  How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality. 3  For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves; 4  Praying us with much entreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 5  And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.
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Ministering to the saints does not mean solely religious empire building, paying of building funds, and the physical maintenance costs. You do not need a church building to practice tithing and ministering to the saints.(Deu 16:17 KJV) Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which he hath given thee.
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IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (1 Corinthians 16:2 KJV)  “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.” Note nothing about a minimum amount in specific tithing obligations was, is mentioned here and why?  (GALATIANS 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
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God has designed the churches also  should help the poor,  help one another, other churches, and that  can next  also include any other ministries that God will, will lead you to give to now as well.. a real ministry is where someone actually looks after the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock of God, not just in words, but with real visible , good deeds.
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(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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(Luke 16:9 KJV)  And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
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(Luke 16:10 KJV)  He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
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(Luke 16:11 KJV)  If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
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(Luke 16:12 KJV)  And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own?
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(Luke 16:13 KJV)  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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Now what does the Bible actually really say about tithing overall?
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You firstly in love and gratitude give back to God for his love, for his goodness you bring the gift, tithes to God through  yourself  and yes you ensure it is administered   directly to the Christian workers, the poor and needy persons, even  a set portion of the tithe and then you start to also give some more love offerings for the mortgages, the other needs.. Giving is always more than the minimum 10 percent of one’s income, tithe in the old testament for a start.
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Now it is true that tithing existed and was practiced in the Old Testament  and  a  set portion of these tithes  were also to be given to the local poor persons  too. In fact at least 19 % of these Biblical commanded tithes were to be given  directly to the local poor persons. Too Many Churches today falsely do rob God by asking for just the tithe giving and next also wrongfully use it to pay the mortgage, building expenses.
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and/or what they do also not use the same  tithes today   to help practically the poor  persons in their own church? even the designated Old  Testament amount of 19 % of the tithe?
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Are you aware of a PAOC or any church that gives of the portion of the  collected tithes directly, systematically  to the  poor in their own church ? and gives an regular open account of it?
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Furthermore undeniably too the Old Testament Levites, and the poor persons, or anyone who would enjoy  the benefits of the tithes they did not own  or could not own any land, or a house. The Lord God  stated that the Levites would have no inheritance of land but would be given a portion of the tithe instead. Such an injunction would also apply today to anyone claiming a right to receive a tithe too.
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Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.
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(Deu 12:17 KJV)  Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:(Deu 14:23 KJV)  And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
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(Neh 10:38 KJV)  And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.
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The Biblical reality also now  that only  10 percent of the collected  tithe in the Old testament  every three years went directly to the storehouse?
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Also, every third year, the Israelite was required to store his tithe in his own town to feed the fatherless, aliens, and widows as required by the Lord. This was the tithe of the poor. (ma’aser ani)(Deuteronomy 14:22-29, 26:12-15) (Amos 4:4-5)
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The tithe was also paid directly to the storehouse only every 3rd year? and the other two years the thither himself enjoyed the tithes himself by now also personally feasting on it? Did you ever hear your PAOC preacher tell you that and why not? Obviously he wanted your share of the tithe.
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And why now have any of the today’s  PAOC pastors  not even mentioned ALL OF these  Biblical verses, truths  too in all honesty? rather they like you to believe that   then and not all of the tithes was to be  given to the local church for them wrongfully to do as they want.. which was not so at all AND NOT in the Old or New Testament. Even the Apostles were accountable, transparent  to the church elders in all they did.
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Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 2 5 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
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Deuteronomy 26:12-15 (NIV) 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied. 13 Then say to the LORD your God: “I have removed from my house the sacred portion and have given it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, according to all you commanded. I have not turned aside from your commands nor have I forgotten any of them. 14 I have not eaten any of the sacred portion while I was in mourning, nor have I removed any of it while I was unclean, nor have I offered any of it to the dead. I have obeyed the LORD my God; I have done everything you commanded me. 15 Look down from heaven, your holy dwelling place, and bless your people Israel and the land you have given us as you promised on oath to our forefathers, a land flowing with milk and honey.”
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Deuteronomy 12:4-19 (NIV) 4 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way. 5 But you are to seek the place the LORD your God will choose from among all your tribes to put his Name there for his dwelling. To that place you must go; 6 there bring your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, what you have vowed to give and your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks. 7 There, in the presence of the LORD your God, you and your families shall eat and shall rejoice in everything you have put your hand to, because the LORD your God has blessed you. 8 You are not to do as we do here today, everyone as he sees fit, 9 since you have not yet reached the resting place and the inheritance the LORD your God is giving you. 10 But you will cross the Jordan and settle in the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, and he will give you rest from all your enemies around you so that you will live in safety. 11 Then to the place the LORD your God will choose as a dwelling for his Name-there you are to bring everything I command you: your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, and all the choice possessions you have vowed to the LORD. 12 And there rejoice before the LORD your God, you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maid servants, and the Levites from your towns, who have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 13 Be careful not to sacrifice your burnt offerings anywhere you please. 14 Offer them only at the place the LORD will choose in one of your tribes, and there observe everything I command you. 15 Nevertheless, you may slaughter your animals in any of your towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the LORD your God gives you. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean may eat it. 16 But you must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water. 17 You must not eat in your own towns the tithe of your grain and new wine and oil, or the firstborn of your herds and flocks, or whatever you have vowed to give, or your freewill offerings or special gifts. 18 Instead, you are to eat them in the presence of the LORD your God at the place the LORD your God will choose-you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maidservants, and the Levites from your towns-and you are to rejoice before the LORD your God in everything you put your hand to. 19 Be careful not to neglect the Levites as long as you live in your land.
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Amos 4:4-5 (NIV) 4 “Go to Bethel and sin; go to Gilgal and sin yet more. Bring your sacrifices every morning, your tithes every three years. 5 Burn leavened bread as a thank offering and brag about your freewill offerings- boast about them, you Israelites, for this is what you love to do,” declares the Sovereign LORD.
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Heb.7:1 For this Melchisidec, King of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all;. . . 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
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In Genesis chapter 14, Abraham goes out to rescue his nephew Lot, who along with many others has been kidnapped. The kidnappers had ransacked the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah where Lot lived, and were on their way back to their own cities. Abraham took 318 servants with him, (boy was he rich), and rescued Lot’s family. He also took from the kidnappers all the loot they had obtained during their raids. After restoring the personal property of the residents of Sodom, he gave 10% of the loot to Melchisidec. This time, and this time only, are we ever told that Abraham pays tithes to anyone. There is no mention that he went home to round up 10% of the goods he had there, and anyone who could produce his own 318 man army was not poor. We are nowhere told that Abraham ever paid tithes on any of his income again. If Abraham establishes a law for Christians regarding tithing, then if you give away 10% of your next windfall, you have imitated Abraham. The purpose of Hebrews chapter 7 is not to establish a law of tithing, but to show how Jesus Christ was foreshadowed in symbols and figures throughout the Old Testament.(Gen 28:21 KJV)  So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:  Jacob said, “Of all that Thou shalt give me, I will surely give the tenth unto Thee” (Gen.28:22).
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We can presume from these words, that Jacob did, from that point, give the tenth to God: but to whom did he give it? How did he give it to God? There were no “clergymen” around to collect these tithes, and neither was there a Temple to bring them to. Perhaps Jacob gave these tithes to the poor; perhaps they were consumed in offerings by fire, but one thing is for sure: these tithes were not going into someone’s “storehouse”. Note: this was not a command to Jacob from God, but a vow made by Jacob to God. The antiquity of any practice does not make it a law for the Church.
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Matt. 23: 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint, and anise, and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ye ought to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides! which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
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It is obvious that the Lord Jesus told the Jews, the Pharisees specially  to not neglect paying the obligatory  tithe and next asa  a reflection of His judgment on them: in that they were not of His sheep. It was characteristic of Our Lord Jesus to encourage the self righteous in their works, and even to increase the requirement, so as to show them that they were not made righteous by these works. Let’s look at again the few  New Testament supposedly applicable verses on tithing.
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(1 Cor 16:2 KJV)  Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3  And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
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The percentage amount of the individual’s donation firstly is not specified here  though, not even even implied not even  the old testament standard of 10  percent of one’s income or the amount  to be given to the poor persons. Now  why is that?
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EVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SOME PERSONS LIED  ABOUT THEIR THEIR TITHES, INCOMES
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(Acts 5:3 KJV)  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?  4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
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Coming back to the Old Testament verses also  on tithing..

“There were several types of tithes, according to the source of Israelites’ income: the tithes from the land (seed and fruit) and the tithes from the domestic animals (flock and herd). In other words, God HAD expected His people to set aside one tenth of all increase (income).”(Exo 34:26 KJV)  The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.(Exo 23:16 KJV)  And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.(Lev 23:10 KJV)  Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
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(Num 28:26 KJV)  Also in the day of the firstfruits, when ye bring a new meat offering unto the LORD, after your weeks be out, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work:
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(Deu 26:10 KJV)  And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O LORD, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the LORD thy God:
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(2 Chr 31:5 KJV)  And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.
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(Neh 10:35 KJV)  And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the LORD:
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(Neh 10:37 KJV)  And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
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(Prov 3:9 KJV)  Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:
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(Ezek 20:40 KJV)  For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.
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(Ezek 44:30 KJV)  And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest’s: ye shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause the blessing to rest in thine house. In Reality..
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“God’s people OF THE OLD TESTAMENT and note this in the book of acts, New Testament too,  practiced Sharing, the Jews practiced  between the Israelites who received their inheritance from God (the land) and with those who did not posses such inheritance – Levites, strangers, orphans, and widows. If we examine the figures, the number of Israelites versus the number of Levites and the percentage that the Israelites were to give to the Levites and the poor (one third of 10%),( about 19% percent of the tithe)  we will find that each would end up with an equal share. This is the principle that was observed in the distribution of manna: one who gathered much had nothing left over and the one who gathered little had no lack.  Sharing was the community coming together with their families/neighbors and sharing in the atmosphere of joy and celebration before the Lord. “
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(Lev 27:30 KJV)  And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD. The tithe always  is God’s not the churches, pastor’s, priests, etc., (Lev 27:32 KJV)  And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD. (Num 18:26 KJV)  Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe. (Deu 14:22 KJV)  Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. (2 Chr 31:5 KJV)  And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly. (2 Chr 31:6 KJV)  And concerning the children of Israel and Judah, that dwelt in the cities of Judah, they also brought in the tithe of oxen and sheep, and the tithe of holy things which were consecrated unto the LORD their God, and laid them by heaps. (Neh 13:12 KJV)  Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries. (Lev 27:31 KJV)  And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof. (Num 18:24 KJV)  But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance. (Num 18:26 KJV)  Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the  LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe. (Num 18:28 KJV)  Thus ye also shall offer an heave offering unto the LORD of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel; and ye shall give thereof the LORD’S heave offering to Aaron the priest. (Deu 12:6 KJV)  And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks: (Deu 12:11 KJV)  Then there shall be a place which the LORD your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the LORD: (Deu 26:12 KJV)  When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled; (2 Chr 31:12 KJV)  And brought in the offerings and the tithes and the dedicated things faithfully: over which Cononiah the Levite was ruler, and Shimei his brother was the next. (Neh 10:37 KJV)  And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage. (Neh 10:38 KJV)  And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure  house. (Neh 12:44 KJV)  And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited. (Neh 13:5 KJV)  And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests. (Amos 4:4 KJV)  Come to Bethel, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years: (Mal 3:8 KJV)  Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 10  Bring ye all ( all )  the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat ( note this food for the workers was the purpose of the tithe) in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

And still  coming back to the Old Testament you are to give all of the tithe to God, all of the tithe, all of  of it belongs to him, and you next gave  1/7 of this tithe to the local poor people, and the balance of the tithe was to go 100 percent to the support of of the Christian workers and their families. Not to any building programs, loans, mortgages..
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Note this  that  none cent of the tithe,  not one cent  of the tithe, now still  was to go to the temple upkeep, or to the mortgages, building funds.. for there were other specific  offerings to be collected for this..  Is this than also  being practiced by the PAOC today? No! and why not if tithing is applicable today in full?
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Now some Pentecostal churches do try to even make you sign an   agreement that you will give ten percent of your tithes to their church and they will let you next become a member of their church..   and in my own wittiness some of these PAOC pastors, elders, tithers of these churches committed tax evasions, even stole some of the monies , are and were mostly materialistic oriented and not spiritual too. .
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Basically enforced tithing, like circumcision,  is an Old testament Law and thus is not really fully enforced in the  New Testament.. for in the New Testament you give to God of yourself, all of it, and next all of your money.. all of it belongs to God and He God spends it the way He God wants.. (1 Cor 16:1 KJV)  Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
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The New Testament city Churches supported the  poor people even  in  the local city church unlike most PAOC Churches today. And now too  many people, pastors, elders do steal from all of God’s money today in reality as I myself have too often witnessed in churches too and thus  they are still thieves.
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(1 Cor 10:24 KJV)  Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth. and that means caring about their physical well being now as well. (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. (Rom 15:25 KJV)  But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. 26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. 27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. (Isa 58:6 KJV)  Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7  Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? (Dan 4:27 KJV)  Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity. (Mat 10:42 KJV)  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. (Mat 25:37 KJV)  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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Here AGAIN are a few basic facts, truths from the Bible that need also to be considered.The “tithe” itself  is reserved for certain functions, persons now as well.. and no man can still  force any one to tithe. The message of Jesus is that God is not in need of money but of a humble, sacrificial spirit.
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(Mat 17:24 KJV)  And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26  Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free. Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?  Acts 5:4 (2 Cor 9:7 KJV)  Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8  And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work: 8 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his  righteousness remaineth for ever.`10   Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
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Furthermore only the persons who did not own any land, a house  the Old Testament Levites, the poor enjoyed the benefits of the third year  tithes Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites
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At least up to 19 % of the Biblical tithe was to be given directly to the local poor persons
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Deuteronomy 26:12-15 (NIV) 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfiedDeuteronomy 14: 27 And do not neglect the Levites  living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.10 percent of  tithe only was paid directly to the storehouse and only every 3rd year?
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Neh. 10:37-38 “.to bring the firstfruits. and to bring the tithes of our land to the Levites, for the Levites should receive the tithes in all our farming communities. And the priest, the descendant of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes; and the Levites shall bring up a tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the rooms of the storehouse.”and the other two years the tither and his family enjoyed the tithes  by even feasting on it.The people of Israel were required to assemble three times a year at Jerusalem (as the place chosen by the Lord) for the major feasts.(Deu 12:17 KJV)  Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand: (Deu 14:23 KJV)  And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God  always.The Israelite was not commanded to tithe on everything he obtained and used throughout the year, but only on his increase at the end of the year. ( The increase minus his actual expenditures during the year, or the final year  end profit?)Deut.14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.”Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this,” says the Lord of hosts, “if I will not open for you the windows of heaven, and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows” (Malachi 3:10).There were four tithes in Israel under the Old Covenant. Which one is referred to here? And the priest, the son of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the Levites receive tithes, and the Levites shall bring up the tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the chambers of the storehouse (Nehemiah 10:38).The Mosaic Law of Tithing was never 10% of everything you get. The Temple (now considered to be the church-house) did not receive all of the tithes that were given by the Israelites.Tithing was neither commanded nor fully observed in the early church.Tithing as a covenant of prosperity is effective only for those who seek to be justified by keeping all of  the Law which is not possible anyway.Those who demand 10% of everything you get, are identified with the Scribes and the Pharisees, who were still the historic enemies of Christ.
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(Heb 13:5 KJV)  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.6  So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
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(Mark 9:41 KJV)  For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
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Please ALSO do not get any false impression that I am against voluntary tithing to the Lord Jesus Christ, or voluntary giving to the Lord Jesus Christ, AND to the poor persons.
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I am against THE THIEVES WHO STEAL TITHING UNDER FALSE PRETENCES, FALSE PREACHING, or those persons trying to earn, buy their way into heaven, and also  thier now giving on the too often false man defined  mandates that the still mostly false pastors themselves do define it.. and

The fact that at least 60 percent of the evangelical pastors I have dealt with are very inadequate, even rather mere hirelings who lie, slander, abuse others, gossip,  cheat, steal, commit tax evasions, tolerate divorce wrongfully etc, and do not really follow after the Lord.
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We need to have a better biblical  account of how the Lord’s money is spent.(Rom 15:1 KJV)  We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.(Mat 7:16 KJV)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
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(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. Phil. 1:11
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I know for a fact also that  Robbing God of his tithes, misappropriating them and denying the poor their portion of the tithes devastates a church as well.
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(Luke 19:46 KJV)  Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.
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The perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers abound even in PAOC churches. It has been my too many years of personal experiences that the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers, idolterers persons, who mainly  tithe to get richer and not rather to help the poor persons,  for they do  generally as well despise the poor and needy persons, covet to be rich they can be found in both the secular and religious camps, and their behaviors tend to be very similar. Even the religious persons, the rather still carnal persons, the Judas followers,  while they now even do profess to be moral good living persons  still when it comes to making more money they clearly bend their rules on morality, ethics, honesty, and they will even cheat, lie steal to acquire more wealth. they mainly still also do see other people as slave objects, slaves that can be used to help them increase their personal acquisitions and they will cast out, sell out their poor  relatives, relationships still too..  but they still will even profess to be good persons now too. and try to by their way into heaven.
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(Mat 25:34 KJV)   Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
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(James 2:1 KJV)  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7  Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8  If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9  But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
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(1 Tim 5:8 KJV)  But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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(Jer 2:20 KJV)  For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.
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(Prov 29:14 KJV)  The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever.
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The twisting of scriptures, taking isolated verses to justify immoral acts is so common these days even in the conservative evangelical . PAOC circles so that it is not even funny anymore.
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A BAD PASTORAL BOARD, COUNSEL OR A BAD BOARD, COMMITTEE OF THIEVES? WHOSE TAX EXEMPTION PRIVILEGES CLEARLY RATHER SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY, THE PAOC INCLUDED.
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For example : A clearly greedy, misery, cheap, evangelical writer was wrongfully trying to justify his not giving of his income to any others, the poor people with the isolated Bible verses.. (Exo 20:17 KJV)  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. OR (Acts 5:4 KJV)  Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?
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AND he had falsely neglected the other verses of the bible that said to give to the poor and needy persons.  So I prayed and I asked God directly what he thought of it .. and he immediately replied to me.. (Luke 6:38 KJV)  Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
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(Luke 19:8 KJV)  And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken anything from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
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(Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
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(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3  For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth. 4  I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. 5  Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers;  6 Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church:
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(1 John 2:10 KJV)  He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
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(Gal 5:16 KJV)  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh 17   For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
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(1 John 2:16 KJV)  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17   And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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(Phil 4:11 KJV)  Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. 12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13   I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. 14  Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.
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(1 Tim 6:9 KJV)  But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11   But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
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(Deu 24:14 KJV)  Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates: 15 At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.
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(Rom 13:9 KJV)  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
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(1 Tim 6:8 KJV)  And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
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(Heb 13:5 KJV)  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
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(Mat 6:19 KJV)  19  Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20  But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21  For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.  23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27  Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28  And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30  Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
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(John 15:5 KJV)  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
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One of the most quoted verses for blessing, prosperity of the New Testament is also too often taken out of it’s context..
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And the New testament content too is any financial blessing we get is to help our Christian brothers and sisters financially as well.. not solely indulging in ourselves too
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(Deu 26:9 KJV)  And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10 And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O LORD, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the LORD thy God, and worship before the LORD thy God: 11 And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which the LORD thy God hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.
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2 Corinthians 9 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/03/24/if-god-still-demands-tithes-he-would-demand-also-we-also-give-still-animal-sacrifices/
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THERE IS ONLY ONE BIBLE, ONE FAITH FOR PERSONAL SALVATION , ONE FAITH  IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE, AND ONE BODY OF CHRIST, ONE GOD, AND ONE TEMPLE,  IT IS THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS THE CHRIST.
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(Gen 28:21-22 KJV)  So that I come again to my father’s house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:  Jacob said, “Of all that Thou shalt give me, I will surely give the tenth unto Thee”    FIRSTLY WAS A FREE WILL CHOICE..I also rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church  now trying to make any money from  selling the gospel, any of  Bibles, books, tapes listed   for sale too or begging, asking for money .  . Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should all live by faith in God to supply our needs, and to have the faith for God to supply  it.  The Honorable Rev George Muellar did.
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I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.
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(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
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Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
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It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
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When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seemsMany Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..
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(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
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(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
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(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
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(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
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(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
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Please do See also

http://pbulow.tripod.com/ http://pbulow.tripod.com/richpoor.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/reality.html

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/is-it-true-or-false/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/  

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/
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God’s package through Jesus is very comprehensive.. it includes personal salvation, eternal life, full forgiveness of sins, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, healing too.. why do so many people only want to accept a part of it now too? So many people also do want to be made whole, well, but they do not want Jesus as their Lord in their life.. sorry that is not possible.. Jesus is the whole life, he is also the essential, only part of the whole healing. Jesus not only heals gradually, even by Doctors but also fully miraculously even today. Jesus can always do what Doctors cannot.

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/god-can-do-a-lot-more-than-just-heal/

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Is it True or false?

 Acts 20: 29-31 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one day and night with tears.   

  II Peter 2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily (in a sneaky way) shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2  And many shall follow their pernicious ways (lascivious ways, as it reads in the margin); by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment of a long time slumbereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.    

 

(1 Cor 11:22 KJV)  What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.   (James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

 

  I Samuel 15:22: Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.  Because thou hast rejected the Word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king  

 

and where are  Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart and some of the others these days?  

 

(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. I John 3:18 exhorts us to love not just in word, but in deed and in truth.  Note –  Acts 4:35  “And laid them down at the apostles’ feet.  And distribution was made to every man according as he had need.” (The money was collected to support  the needy in the church and the   “tithing” occurs nowhere in this context!) Acts 5:4 “Whiles it remained, was it not thine OWN?  and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? THOU HAST NOT LIED UNTO MEN, BUT UNTO GOD. Acts 5:8  And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.”  Now why is it so many preachers are not afraid of the lies they make to others, God that they make collecting the tithes, monies  today too?  Acts 20:27: “For I have not shunned to declare unto you ALL the counsel of God.” ” If monetary tithing had been in force in the early church Paul would surely have mentioned it.  Monetary tithing was not enforced in the Church until the sixth century A.D., when it was made church law  by two Catholic Church councils in Europe. ”   http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id1.html   

 

Take specifically the case of Ananias and Sapphira.  Exactly what specific sin could the couple have committed that was so bad that next God would strike them dead for it?  Now  their sin even firstly had firstly NOTHING to do with stealing any of monetary tithing.  Their death didn’t even happen as punishment for being stingy with their freewill offerings or maybe failing to tithe but it was the clear sin now of “lying” to God firstly about the amount of their OWN money  supposedly donated and  not at all about any money they had owed to the church.  Ananias and his wife had  wanted a false credit for giving an amount he didn’t actually give. Like many people who make false church tax donations claims even today. Ananias and Sapphira were the equivalent of welfare cheats, in that they wanted to live off the church funds and still have something hidden away for personal use. Here were two wayward professing Christian sheep trying to pull the wool over God’s eyes, but they didn’t live to brag about it . 

 

“How many “faith” preachers in our day hoard vast riches for themselves while crying to  “seed sowers” EVEN THOSE on Social Security  to send in money or they’ll go bust! ”  “How many of these evil religious, TITHE, donations peddlers shamelessly appeal to the story of Elijah being fed by the last of a starving widow’s flour and oil so they can put more bread in their bank account and fuel their own lusts! done all the while deliberately withholding  part of the Truth of His Word from the Body of Christ to leech off of poor brethren so they themselves can splash around in the lap of luxury!   ” Some of ye are sick and nigh unto death cause ye do approach the Lord’s table unworthily. 

 

(1 Cor 11:27 KJV)  Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.  28    But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32   But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

 

(1 Cor 10:21 KJV)  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. (1 Cor 6:2 KJV)  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?   (Luke 16:11 KJV)  If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? (Luke 16:13 KJV)  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Mat 6:25 KJV)  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?  (Mat 6:31 KJV)  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33   But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

  

Reminds me of a women that I know with 3 kids, who had asked the  local church for social aid, so next they gave her 7,500 dollars , while she did not declare to them still that she had 25,000 dollars  in government bonds in a safe that she was saving for a rainy day.

 

Or the lying pastor that I knew too from Calgary Bearspaw House of faith  who tells everyone that he lived solely by faith in God to supply all of his finical needs neglecting to tell them he also has a church salary, and an expenditure budget. Ironically he simultaneously was even accused of falsifying and misappropriating  the expenditures and was eventually dismissed form the church for this too.

 

The age of grace did not cause God to overlook these unrepentant sins.

  

 

“Tithing Truth in a Nutshell

 

1. Unqualified religious leaders (Gentiles) should not take up tithes.

2. God’s tithe NEVER consisted of money!

3. NOWHERE in either Testament are Christians commanded to pay monetary tithes.

4. Tithes consisted only of agricultural produce.

5. Biblical tithes were also sometimes EATEN by the worshipper himself!

  

Deuteronomy 14: 22-27  deals with the Festival Tithe, one of three tithes paid by the laity of Israel.  I’ve been a believer for many, many years, and NOT ONCE have I ever heard this Scripture passage expounded on by any tithe-taking preacher.  I wonder why!

  

Verse 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase (harvest) of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

  

Verse 23 And thou (the tithe-payer!) shalt EAT before the LORD thy God, in the place which He shall chose to place His name there, the tithe of thy  corn, of thy wine, and of thy olive oil, and of the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.  Tithes were EDIBLE things! Pottery makers and sandal makers didn’t tithe on their products. Unless you raised crops or livestock, you didn’t owe any tithes.

 

Verse 24 introduces the only context in the whole Bible where money is mentioned in conjunction with tithing!  And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set His Name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee;

  

Verse 25 Then thou shalt turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shalt choose:

  

Verse 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after; for oxen, or for sheep,  or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and THOU SHALT EAT  there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thy household,

 

Verse 27  And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee (in the Promised Land).

 

 

Numbers 18:21-24 says makes it plain that only the  sons of Levi were ever authorized by God to collect tithes, and only from the children of Israel. No other tribes of Israel were ever  supposed to collect tithes, and the Levitical priesthood ended in 70 A.D. when the Temple was destroyed

 

Old Testament tithes were never used for building projects, so why is that being done today?

 

Nowhere in Scripture is any Christian authorized to request the tithe.

 

Even Jesus did not finance His own ministry with tithes. If He had, He never would have had to say: The Son of Man hath nowhere to lay His head (Matt.8:20). 

 

In Malachi  the purpose of the tithe was to keep FOOD, NOT MONEY, in God’s House (Malachi 3:10). Why?   The Levites (priestly tribe of Israel) were denied an inheritance (of real estate) in the Promised Land. The tithe was their compensation for this, and their reward for their Tabernacle service (Numbers 18:21-24).  Still other tithes were set aside to be  consumed by worshippers and the poor at their yearly festivals (Deut.12:17-18; 14:22-27)  . Every third year, a special tithe was stored up for the poor within the city gates (Deut.14:28-29). 

 

Tithing was done six years out of every seven.  Every seventh year the Land was to lie fallow, to give the land a rest (Lev.25:1-4). No tithes would be collected that year at all.   Have you ever heard of any present churchgoer getting a rest every  seventh year from paying tithes?

 

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id13.html      

Church Practices

EARLY CHURCH

MODERN CHURCH
Financial Contributions Free will offerings collected for the needy only, no tithing (2 Cor.9:7).  Members met in private homes (Rom.16:5; I Cor.16:19; Col.4:15) Tithing aggressively taught.  Non-tithers shamed.  Money provides pastor’s perks, building fund, landscaping, exciting programs, etc.
Pastoral support Freewill giving, leadership sometimes worked on side (2 Cor.11:9; I Thes.2:9) Leadership supported mainly through tithes, often live lavishly.
Church Authority Elders taught and led by example, but all related to one another as brethren (Matt.23:8; I Pet.5:3).  Only ONE Lord (Eph.4:5). Heirarchy of MANY lords run the institutional church, from senior pastor all the way down to the deacon.
Giving & Receiving EQUALITY of well-being preached by Paul (2 Cor.8:13-15).  All to have the same care one for another (I Cor.12:25). Poor parishioners support rich clergy.  Pastors drive fancy cars, take exciting holidays, and never stop begging for more.
Fellowship DAILY they fellowshipped and broke bread from house to house.  Christians shared possessions and looked after everyone’s well-being. (Acts 2:42-47) Churches divide into little cliques which some can’t fit into.  Lonely folks leave  church.  People say “hello” once a week and that’s it.  Occasional potluck meals, concerts, etc.
Church Ministry EVERYONE had something to contribute to service (I Cor.14:26; Eph.4:16).  No mention of pulpits, pews, etc.  The word “congregation” appears only in Old Testament, except for a gathering of Jews in Acts 13:43.  Clergy-laity divide didn’t exist in early church. “Pew saints” only pray, pay and obey. Ministry done mostly by pastor, visiting speakers and “song leaders”.  Congregation are mostly spectators. Even some Charismatic churches discourage spiritual gifts out of fear of offending visitors.
Evangelization Repentance toward God and faith toward Christ taught (Acts 20:21).  Preaching done in demonstration of the Spirit and in power (I Cor.2:4-5). Real faith bore witness  of Christ (Rom.1:8) Unconditional love of God preached, without mentioning “the wages of sin is death” (Rom.6:23). Free concerts for sinners. Positive messages only. Hell and God’s wrath against sin are taboo. Powerless sermons, keys to prosperity, self-help videos, slick marketing.

 

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id57.html    

 

 It still is a a lack of living by faith and  a grave sin of covetness for all pastors to  distort, hold back part of God’s Truth from the church to protect, insure  their own financial income. All sorts of real sinners now had inhabited Jesus’ world  2000 years ago.  Harlots, thieves, tax collectors, even murderous brigands like Barabbas. But still now about the only sinners Jesus ever  chewed out in the Gospels were the self-righteous Pharisees, who devoured widows’ houses and turned their converts into twice the son of hell as themselves (Matt: 23:14-15).  That now includes those false preachers of today who would say that only if you tithe especially to the local pastor’s storehouse you are spiritual.     

 

”  Making Merchandise of the Unpardonable Sin Ezekiel 13:22;  Acts 20:27-30   

Desperate ministers of deceit are like bloodsuckers who try to squeeze the last drop dry from anemic sheep, the way they change their tactics from bad to worse as they sense the winds of change in My beleaguered body.  In time of abundance fishers for funds siphon off a little of the extra fat from well-to-do contributors and even urge poorer saints to be willing to tighten their belts and do without a few luxuries, supposedly for the sake of the “Kingdom of God.” They would dangle a glittery prosperity carrot before the bedazzled eyes of My people, promising that they would be repaid for their generosity on a ratio of a hundred to one. Scriptures would be jerked out of their context to prove I was the ultimate investment, and “you can’t get better odds in Vegas.”

 

What garbagey theology!  The promises I made to those who sow seeds into the Kingdom of God meant that a great harvest of souls would be reaped into My eternal Kingdom, and the good works of My Spirit of Grace would be spread abroad to bless many unto a newness of life.  As for those who are hardened in heart and love riches more than Me, their dirty money perish with them!  Now that times are harder for so many, they are switching from the carrot approach to the stick approach, both diabolical perversions of My Word.  Some are filling My children’s hearts with fear that I will execute them like Ananias and Sapphira if they withhold donations from their so-called ministries or refuse to tithe on money, which is nowhere commanded in My Word. Most of those deceivers know that robbing My people of their sustenance is a doctrine of devils!  Saints whom I have chosen to enter into My perfect rest of peace have been troubled and I shall surely trouble those who sow lies into their hearts, saith the Lord. Those greedy deceivers who make the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad, I shall make sad in return.  That is the only return they will get on their investment of lies. They shall surely have their day in the Court of Heaven to answer for what they have done to hurt and rob My Body.

 

Satan instills lying guilt feelings in millions of My children today because they are unable to give massive amounts of money to religious organizations.  Some are told that it is a sin against the Holy Ghost to be stingy in their contributions and they won’t get to heaven unless they open their wallets more.  Unfounded fear of being guilty of the unpardonable sin has ruined the peace and the health of so many of My children.  But the unpardonable sin has nothing to do with money!  It is a sin against the Love of God which is committed by attributing the wonderful works of My Spirit of Grace to the devil, or speaking slanderous words against My Holy Spirit, which brings eternal alienation from the only One Who can perform the marvelous work of redemption down in your inward parts.

 

The sin committed by Ananias and Sapphira was to lie to My Holy Spirit, not to refuse to fork over ten percent of their wages to bogus ministries.  If this couple had admitted to Peter that they lacked the faith to give all the price of the land and so were only giving part of the money to the church, they would have been spared judgment because they would not have been lying to the apostles. They were not even required to sell their land in the first place, for Peter said unto the couple, “While the land remained, was it not thine own? And after it was sold, was the money not in thine power?”  Ananias and Sapphira had the right to either keep their land or sell it, and after they sold it they even had the right to keep the money or just donate part of it.  But these deceivers wanted to gain credit for giving a bigger donation than they actually did, in order to live off the church common fund and hold something back for a rainy day.  But their rainy day came sooner than they expected, saith the Lord, because you cannot deceive Me.  I who weigh the thoughts and intents of the soul know what that two were conspiring against Me, to rob My people.

  

So who is robbing My people today; poor saints who withhold part of their paycheck from greedy ministers of darkness, or learned religious experts who withhold that part of the Truth of My Word which they find unprofitable, and then boldly declare unto My Church: “I have faithfully declared unto you ALL the counsel of God.”  Instead, they sell My people a pack of lies.

  

Most of the wolves in sheep’s clothing who try to scare My people with the story of Ananias and Sapphira KNOW that the real issue in it was lying to the Holy Spirit, not non-tithing or refusing to give a required donation.  But these same false ministers know their Bible inside out and yet they sit on truths I would share with My people which would liberate them from the bondage of fear.  These evil men and women take advantage of My people’s ignorance of scripture to pry “tithes” out of them, and to maximize their ministry income so they can live luxuriously like the parasites they are.  So who is really guilty, saith the Lord? Those who honestly cannot afford big contributions and don’t give unless I direct them to, or lying deceivers who hold back non-lucrative portions of My Word from their flocks?  Poor, destitute saints who hold back part of the amount these mooches want find out in a hurry that it makes these men mean enough to breathe threats at them from the pulpit and over the air. They just can’t stand to have their luxurious lifestyle cramped by the poverty of their listeners. And so these men withhold truths unprofitable to their banks accounts; scriptural truths of the Gospel of Grace which expose the darkness and folly of the lies of the Gospel of Greed.  Liberating truths are suppressed which would profit My Body and set them free from the lies which fill them with fear.

 

I will surely go from place to place, saith the Lord, and I shall cut the leeches off My Body.  And I shall surely cut the fetters off My people so they can walk in the liberty unto which I have called them.  ”  http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id1.html

 

“Acts Chapter 15 tells of a great theological dispute among early church leaders. Were non-Jewish believers obligated to keep the Law of Moses in order to earn and keep their salvation?  None other than the Apostle Peter says that if the Old Law was hard for Jews to bear, why should Gentile believers, who were already justified by faith, have that burdensome yoke placed on them?
 
The apostles reached a sensible decision.  Only four restrictions would be placed upon the  liberty of the Gentile believers:
 
   To refrain from:
 
     1. Foods offered to Idols
     2. Fornication
     3. Meat from strangled animals
     4. The consumption of blood
 
Those original builders of the Church believed that if just those four things were observed, God could surely take care of the rest. Conspicuous by its absence is the Law of Tithing.”
http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id11.html

 

(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

do see also https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

 

“Preachers are committing this sin by adding Tithing on Wages, NOWHERE taught even under the Old Law!  Preachers latch onto the ten per cent figure because it seems like a good idea, regardless of what God thinks.  But they neglect the Israelites’ third-year tithe taken to feed the poor
 
 (Deut.14:28-29).  When was the last time any preacher ever told you to go buy a six-pack of Bud with some of your tithe money?  Why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses in Malachi 3?  Why don’t preachers ever mention THIS tithing passage?  It’s in the Bible!  I didn’t put it there, so don’t blame ME!
 
Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Verse 23: And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Verse 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Verse 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Verse 26: AND THOU SHALT BESTOW THAT MONEY FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL LUSTETH AFTER, FOR OXEN, OR FOR SHEEP, OR FOR WINE, OR FOR STRONG DRINK, OR FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL DESIRETH: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household
 
Notice, tithed produce was sometimes turned into money (the ONLY context in which money is associated with tithing in Scripture), but money itself was not turned in as the tithe!  Instead, the tithing farmer or rancher only bought more food with it when he got to Jerusalem, some of which he consumed himself! Tithe-collecting preachers not only ADD TO what God commanded in His Word, they DIMINISH (take away) from God’s Word by forbidding us to go out and buy Bacardi Breezers with “tithe money”.  Old sluefoot is thrilled when money-hungry preachers tamper with the terms and conditions of God’s Law, because in Revelation 22:19 God promised to disinherit those who added to or subtracted from Scripture. When preachers say you can’t buy wine or strong drink with “tithe money” they’re actually taking away from Scripture! 
 
Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe!
 
Besides robbing god’s people of their blood-bought freedom from the Law, what OTHER victories does satan win through tithing on monetary wages, which is NOWHERE taught in all of scripture?   http://www.scribd.com/doc/4617708/Fasting-Tithing-Blessing-Bringers-or-Burdens  
 
 
 
I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.
  
(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
 
Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
 
It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
 
 
When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?
 
So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seems
 
Many Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..
 
(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
 
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
 
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
 
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
 
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 
 
 
 
While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
 
 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
  
No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
 
 
(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  

How to keep oneself away from sexual transgressions?

 
I read recently an interesting internet  search question on my site– How to keep oneself away from sexual transgressions?
 
The answers for a start:
 
Get married, but that is not enough
 
(Gen 2:18 KJV)  And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
 
(Heb 13:4 KJV)  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
 
(1 Cor 7:10 KJV)  And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
 
(1 Cor 7:11 KJV)  But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
 
 
Make a deliberate choice to always obey and follow after God and his commandments too
 
(Eph 5:1 KJV)  Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
 
(Eccl 12:1 KJV)  Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
 
(Exo 23:20 KJV)  Behold, I send an Angel ( Jesus Christ)  before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. 21  Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
 
 
Beware of the devil who always seem to have a habit to lead you astray
  
(2 Cor 2:11 KJV)  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
  
(Eph 4:27 KJV)  Neither give place to the devil.
 
(1 Pet 5:8 KJV)  Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
 
(1 Pet 5:9 KJV)  Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
 
 
Stay meek, Humble, not rather sinfully proud..
 
(James 4:1 KJV)  From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? 2   Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3   Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. 4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. 5   Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 6  But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
 
(Eph 4:26 KJV)  Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
 
(Eph 4:31 KJV)  Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
 
(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
 
(Eph 5:2 KJV)  And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. 
 
Confess your sins to God regularly
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 
(1 John 1:10 KJV)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
(1 John 2:1 KJV)  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
 
(1 John 2:2 KJV)  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
 
(1 John 2:3 KJV)  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
 
(1 John 2:4 KJV)  He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
 
(1 John 2:5 KJV)  But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
 
(1 John 2:6 KJV)  He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 
 
Beware of men and women who always seem to have a habit to lead you astray
 
Stay away always  from bad compnay, bad people, bad friends, bad joke s now as well.
 
(Phil 3:2 KJV)  Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
 
(Mat 7:15 KJV)  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 
(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
 
 
(1 Cor 10:13 KJV)  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 
(1 Cor 10:14 KJV)  Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
 
Pray and read the Bible daily, Do your part too, fullfill your obligations to God
 
(Psa 119:11 KJV)  Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
(Psa 119:11 KJV)  Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
 
(Job 8:20 KJV)  Behold, God will not cast away a perfect man, neither will he help the evil doers:
 
(Psa 101:8 KJV)  I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD.
 
(Rom 2:13 KJV)  (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
 
(James 1:22 KJV)  But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 
 
 
(Eph 5:18 KJV)  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
 
(Eph 5:19 KJV)  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
 
(Eph 5:20 KJV)  Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
 
(Eph 5:21 KJV)  Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
 
(Eph 5:22 KJV)  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

And  why should I still  be so surprised that so many Chuuch Ministers too now are objectionably alcoholics and adulterers as well?

Just cause 70 percent of pastors admitted to having done adultery  or counselling divorce, or 30 percent evangelicals commit   divorce does still not  mean any of them are getting away with any of it next too

as I have said many times before, even since the Garden of Eden, the devil still lies about the truth and he still says to you that you will not die if you disobey God’s law.. and he does that about lusts, stealing, alcohol, adultery, divorce or whatever.. to keep the people in bondage in their wrongful sins.. but Adam and Eve still paid a price for their sins next, so do we all..

(John 4:37 KJV) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

(Eph 5:3 KJV)  But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
 
(Eph 5:4 KJV)  Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
 
(Eph 5:5 KJV)  For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
 
(Eph 5:6 KJV)  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
 
(Eph 5:7 KJV)  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
 
(Eph 5:8 KJV)  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
 
(Eph 5:9 KJV)  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
 
(Eph 5:10 KJV)  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
 
(Eph 5:11 KJV)  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
 
(Eph 5:12 KJV)  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
 
 
Stay away from false values, unrealistic expectations, and all bad TV, bad moves, bad books, bad magazines and pornography  now too

the posts the Lakeland Revival bashers seem to despise

Florida Healing Outpouring with Todd Bentley: 30 Reasons for Healing (16-30)

27 06 2008

First, Roy Fields is back!  Others leading has been moving, but there is something about him that changes the atmosphere.  Roy, welcome back.  Second if you are in Lakeland Fl on the 4th of July there will be free food. From 4-7pm, next Friday there be a celebration with free food.  This will also lead into a water Baptism service.  I am just thrilled for both of these events.  The first shows a desire to reach out to  host community and give back to those who have given so much.  As important, the second is another example of how Fresh Fire and Ignited are taking care and shepherding those who are making profession of faith under their leadership.

Another fun fact, there is now a medical doctor who is reviewing all the medical reports about healing.  The desire for accountability and integrity is great in Lakeland.   One of the assistants said there is a four step process for those who take the stage professing healing
1 Pastor volunteers from around the world, screen and test, those who claim to have received healing
2 This is then relayed to those who bring the person on stage, to ensure what is shared is consistent
3 After they are on the platform, a survey is filled out with symptoms, sign of healing and contacts.
4 FOLLOW UP!  1-2 weeks a phone call is made to see how they are doing.

Just some random quotes form Todd Bentley… he really does use the name of Jesus.
(This is just a sample, to show who the glory goes to)

“We are encouraging people to see doctors after healings.  I believe in medicine”
“It is the power of Jesus.  We are powerless without the power of the Holy Ghost
“Can we give thanks to Jesus for this.”
“We want to give all we can, leally, to the media to give the glory to Jesus.”
“We give all the glory to Jesus”
“Can we give Jesus all the glory tonight?”
while praying for healing, “Two new ankles in Jesus mighty name”

30 Reasons for Healings #16-30 (all verses NIV)

16. He does what he pleases – God is sovereign and healing happens because God chooses too.
17. Charitable Giving- (whole chapters but verses) Acts 9: 36 In Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (which, when translated, is Dorcas), who was always doing good and helping the poor  and Acts10:2 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly.  Based on these verses miracles happens as a direct result of charitable giving.  It would seem that when we take care of the pour, God reaches and extra measure of the miracles.
18. The Gospel – Mark 16:19-20 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly.    Healing is good news and,  according to Todd, the Gospel is the power of God as well as the message of salvation
19.  I am a friend of God’s – John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.  God hears the prayers of His friends.  What do you do for your “true” friends?  The deeper the intimacy with God, the deeper the friendship. Is God your friend, because there seems to be many who understand Jehovah but do not understand Abba.  Abba, is the characteristic of a deep personal relationship.
20. The Glory of God –  John 11:4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”
21. The cures of the Law – Romans 8:2  because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. Healings show that you free from the law of sin and death.
22. Desperation: Mark 5:27 When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak,  Sometime people need a touch so bad they push trough to get it.  “if only this small amount”  They are the ones who are desperate enough to reach out and get healed

23.  Connection locked up

24. Name of God – Exodus 15:26 He said, “If you listen carefully to the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you.”

25. Communion – 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.  This would seem to be a reason why you are not, but if it bring sickness maybe it bring healing (my thought on it, time was short so the last were real quick)

26.  Gift of the Spirit- There was no verse give to justify this, but 1 Corinthians12:9-109to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

27. The name of Jesus – Triune God, Jesus is God see #24

28.   The nature of the Holy Spirit – God creates when the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit moves.  It was after Genesis 1:2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. That God said, “Let there be light.”  IF the Spirit lives with us, then he is moving, we should expect creation (new body parts is creation).
29. I am Saved – James 5:15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.  Faith is a gift of the Spirit and only saved people have this.  So salvation, brings faith, faith brings healing.  And, yes because Jesus forgave my sins.
30. Kingdom of God- Mathew 6:10 Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.  There is no sickness in the Kingdom, God preformes creation in His kingdom, there are miricals in the Kingdom, let it be so here

These are the second half of the 30 reasons, each with scripture refrances.  People you may not like Todd Bentley, but please be careful arguing against the word of God.  For those around Todd, let him know I said “thanks for the teaching, it has meant a lot to me.”

On a personal note:  I blew out my knee today, while walking down some stairs.  It hurt to move or even put pressure on it.  Tonight, during the broadcast, I WAS HEALED.  Proof of this, I wrote this whole blog standing up.

http://allenwilson.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/florida-healing-outpouring-with-todd-bentley-30-reasons-for-healing-16-30/

  the Lakeland critics   seem to be led by the devil..

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
  
Do see also

TOO OFTEN FALSE BASH OF PENTACOSTALS HEALERS

Our actions must be founded on what we know to be true from God’s Word, and that what is being directed us personally to each one of us by the Holy Spirit, and to do that we all still do need to continually in reality live a Holy Sprit filled life. it starts by daily reading the Bible, having a Bible devotional, and sadly even most pastors do not do that too.

Mark 16:17 And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;
Mark 16:18 They will pick up serpents; and [even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well.
Mark 16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after He had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and He sat down at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:20 And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message by the attesting signs {and} miracles that closely accompanied [it]. Amen (so be it).

In contrast I read on the net what the bullies, bashers say about healings, miracles.
http://hiscrivener.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/faith-healers-could-encounter-a-setback-at-the-altar/
http://kimolsen.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/george-banovs-blasphemous-prophecy-at-todd-bentleys-ordination/
It should be clear to most of us, the bad guys do not like my pages still.. it shows them in their true light.. the bad guys, bullies, bashers or what ever?

THE WAY MANY FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICAL AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS TRY TO MAKE FUN AT OTHER CHRISTIANS IS SICKENING, A VERY POOR THEOLOGY AND IS SADLY NOW ALSO TYPICAL OF THE MUCH TOO OFTEN FALSE BASHING OF THE PENTECOSTALS TOO! It clearly makes me think that Satan himself is behind most of it still too.

And what about the Phony wars and phony peace by the professing Christians now too..
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

As to bullies question to me.. ““are you ranting”… my how you still do like to bash, insult people.. you do not know them even well enough to falsely even try to judge them, your approach is quite immature and unspiritual too.. looking for a big fight cause someone had stepped on your sore toes.. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

I certainly hope you do not profess wrongfully to be a Christian to anyone, cause you do not act like it for sure… nor do I hope you abuse all the people like that who make a post here.. a sure way to next lose many people still too. Stay in God’s love and not rather in the flesh.. we may not agree, do have a right to differ, but we still do need to show love to the others. Need more input from me on the subject.. I have it detailed even on 5 internet sites.. “

It is very clear that the much too many false Critics of the Pentecostals will try to grasp at any straws to falsely bash the Pentecostal and still try to justify their own immoral acts..

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too.
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..

A MAJORITY OF THE CRITICS OF THE LATTER DAY REVIVALS, are too clearly their now too often diverting back wrongfully the topic discussions, and themselves making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks and even their evidently their typical unChristlike bullying Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude, and what else? is not the right approach from anyone and it does continue to reflect poorly on ALL OF THEM STILL too…
THE WAY THEY THEMSELVES DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO. And very revealing what they are firstly like themselves
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/understanding-me-and-others-better/

“I have read in the last month every wordpress site, and many others sites openly bashing, abusing, slandering the Florida revival, Todd, the latter day Pentecostals and yet to date I personally have not read, seen one valid criticism, decent presentation at all.. what a great shocker.. It all seems more like little immature, jealous kids still fighting over which one of them will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven and who will be last.. what a real absurdity. I myself though have opposed Todd Bentley’s associated with some really bad pastors, trying to make money form selling items at the revival.. and his false application for divorce..

Hey Critics, Don’t get desperate but get real… like I have rightfully said I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings of any of the latter rain churches..

I did not say Charismatic supposedly churches.. cause we know those often mean rather the Catholic Pentecostals..

as to what the Bible says is only how you here do interpret it.. not the Holy Spirit.

I have been a Christian for 50 years and a Pentecostal pastor for the last 30 years, and I have attended the latter day churches too and often.. and specifically what about you? not the supposed others..

The Latter Rain movement was rejected by the AOG Pentecostals in 1948 as heretical… and what they are speaking for God now.. dream on.. There are other Pentecostal persons, denominations who support them, approve of them, me included. The AOG has it’s own falsehoods, and problems it needs to look at.. (Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

The Full Gospel Business Men’s fellowship uses a similar latter rain approach for decades now too.
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/

Too many persons are bashing other Pentecostals with clearly a hidden agenda, jealousy, and it is still the wrong thing to do so now too.. they are not even doing it in love or humility Cleary as required by the Bible now too. “

Even because Evangelical Fundamentalism, dispensationalists, too often also replaces the worship of God , the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ with the sole worship of the Bible, bypassing the works of the Holy Spirit it seems, though most Fundamentalists will deny that. Liberalism, too, replaces the worship of God, and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ with the worship of something else. In the case of Liberalism, however, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of mere human reason , and both groups are not that far apart, for they are are in error.

Fundamentalists worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private re-interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah, they worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).

Fundamentalists and Liberals too need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and of John 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH.

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12941.htm
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, elders, deacons too for they all seem to do the same bad things too.. adultery, alcoholism, gossip, slander, divorce..

And when I see shallow arguments of anyone still limiting today as to what God today can do, even through us, EVEN ABOUT HEALING, it makes me rightfully also think how shallow their Christian faith now really is.. they are still babies in the Lord and need someone to teach them the whole truth, the whole , full gospel too, for my God can do anything, Jesus is the same , yesterday, today and forever.

ON TOP OF THAT I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW SO MANY OF THESE SAME PERSONS PERSONS ALSO FALSELY RISE TO DEFEND SMOKING, WINE, ALCOHOL AS WELL AND WORK FULLY TO DENY IT IS SINFUL.. “Spurgeon was once asked when he would quit smoking cigars. He replied, “When it becomes a problem.” He was then asked, “When will it become a problem?” To which he replied, “When I smoke two at a time.” AND look at all the false justifications for Spurgeon’s sin.. and do see also alcoholism the unacceptable sin

When you talk about what the scriptures says you honestly should also point out that you mean it is how you now interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..

The people who also tell us to use only the Bible often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.

(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

I tend to look at both sides of the issues myself.. for that matter I have now been both non Christian, and Christian, both Baptist and Pentecostal, and both groups still do have major errors, weakness, inadequacies, and they now also have some good points too.. but still there is no such thing as a perfect denomination now as well

But one other thing often is clearly is evident to me visiting, reading the many so called Professing Christians sites mostly all telling us the supposed truth, postings often more with dishonest hidden agendas, poorly researched too, very biased now too.. It also seems to me they are also still are trying to convince themselves as to what is the truth is and no one else, they build up their own false straw arguments, and then do reply to their own arguments. It is generally too often now not an honest presentation, discussion of the topic they have presented. http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/todd-bentley-gets-annointed-by-special-oil-from-africa/
>>Pastors are going there by the droves. I know one personally. He went to Toronto to bring some of “it” back and he’s done the same thing with Lakeland. I think he thinks this will be the answer to filling the seats in his church, “http://Christian theology.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/depart-from-me-i-never-knew-you/

>Did he really tell you that or are you in truth distorting, lying, falsely judging him and many others cause you are a controlling person ?
I see nothing wrong in going there and I am real Christian now too

The nonconformer replied “I never knew you, is not a criticism by Jesus that the healings, miracles done by the person(s) were false.. but a true statement that they really never knew Jesus fully or personally, it seems to apply to you now firstly too. For no pastor, evangelist, healer IS PERFECT TO START OFF..

You are so sensitive to others being supposedly false, cause you clearly are false, now take the beam out of your own eye first.. Someone is wrong here and I don’t think it is that difficult (except perhaps for you) to determine who that is and that is you.. for you do twist Bible verses, slander, falsely quickly bash others to suit your own views..

Clearly Judas was an Apostle, better look at the definition of an Apostle, an Apostle is not an unchristian person.. and he was next replaced in the book of acts by another Apostle. The fact that Jesus knew that Judas would betray him does not mean he was not anointed.. but first better look at the meaning of the word anointed now.. one who evidences the Holy spirit.. with signs and wonders Acts 10:38

If you do not let the Holy spirit lead you as to what a verse actually means you are part of the Blind leading the blind now, forget trying to say the scripture cannot be wrong, rather you are wrong.. “You throw the term free will around as if it does not need to be defined. ” and yet you clearly in desperation rebuttal quoted back a verse that has nothing to do with one’s free will.

“You have contradicted now three times the Word of Jesus,” and what a further false and wrong, judgmental act on your part too, you so easily condemn a person whom you do not know, never met, another real Christian, a real Christian now over 50 years too, and I have been pastoring now for over 3 decades as a Pentecostal pastor too. So get a real life. Really do get Jesus.”

Why is it so many people try too limit the power of God, and they work so hard to try to tell us what God can and cannot do today.. for sure, definitely it is not only cause they are spiritually immature, have a hidden agenda, are promoting themselves, or they are unoriginal parrots who repeat what others have said , but it is often still mainly because Satan for sure is behind all this too.
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/discern-it/
Evangelical fundamental parrots often need to quote someone else cause they do not know the Holy spirit well enough to let him lead them, even the truth about healing. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/64/

Is 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no one else; there is no God besides Me. I will gird {and} arm you, though you have not known Me,

(Jer 32:27 KJV) Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

I undeniably could not help but notice on even the web too how supposedly British religious clergies, scholars, Christians, falsely also do bash American Pentecostal revivals? It is not being done out of jealousy too?

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/it-is-not-good-for-the-man-to-dwell-alone/

I have been on the net for over 2 decades, and I have thousands of readers regularly reading my posts. Hey I too have often said that there are many professing bashers, bullies, liars now even on the Christian internet and they think they alone can make the rules, enforce the rules on others, and that is too bad for them too for they need to grow up.. and to firstly get used to the right of free speech of others, other’s right to be heard and to male their own posts .. I only have about 30 internet sites written often for these bad hypocritical Christians now too so hopefully they too will learn the truth about themselves.. too bad guys do not like me to use my right of free speech.. so what else is new.. they by their bullying, control freak approach clearly show to all what hypocritical Christians they rather are! They are not humble servants of Jesus for sure.

isn’t it great that we all can have the same right to make a post now and the same right to have it read by others now too?

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/fundamental-evangelical-and-supposedly-professing-christian-critics/