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Frank McKenna: The critics are raving 

  

so don’t be stupid NOW again,

    

and don’t select a Liberal leader who

   

– is a pretender Christian,

  

– a liar,

   

– an alcoholic,

   

– or one who cannot speak english, never mind read it.

   

but note above all it has to be one only from Quebec..

   

TRUDEAU’S SON Justine  IS TOO YOUNG, and INEXPERIENCED STILL.

  

for   without the support of the Quebec voters, without a PM from Quebec, you next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding out.. again and again!

 

Try Jean Charest..

 

Frank McKenna: is agreat guy, and so are many others, but they are still not from Quebec.

— Alec Bruce, The Daily Gleaner

“Intellectual prowess and indefatigable drive and determination!”

— Alec Bruce, The Daily Gleaner

“A preternaturally powerful orator — in both English and French — who can work a room of supporters, skeptics, and the undecided voters like Barack Obama on his best day!

 

— Alec Bruce, The Daily Gleaner

“Many back-room Grits are now convinced that the man from Apohaqui, N.B., is the best candidate!!!!

— Alec Bruce, The Daily Gleaner

“A man who has had virtually everything in public life, except the chance to literally reinvent the economy of his own country!!!”

— Alec Bruce, The Daily Gleaner

  

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Unacceptable

 
The still unacceptable  waiting in the local emergency ward, doctor’s office
 
 The other day AT THE LaSalle ANGRIGNON what should have taken 15 minutes a piece for 5 OR ABOUT 1,5 HOURS , RATHER  it took 3 hours TOGETHER  firstly and it took 2 nurses, one doctor, and 1.5 receptionists to do it..
 
Not because  I want to but because I have a need to do so, I have to spend a lot of time, hours often in hospitals, emergency wards, doctors office, so I can sit and observe what I have noticed the last many years.. too often  in too many places still too we have the big  or small hospitals, with plenty of workers, loads of  walking the halls, yes walking the halls often.. non supervised hospital employees not doing their jobs, not  at their job spots, desks  but them walking from one office to another talking to their friends.. they are not very well supervised.. 
 
YES  TOO MANY OF OUR CIVIL AN PUBLIC SERVANTS, OUR EMPLOYEES STILL WANTING TO BE PAID FOR NOT DOING TOO MUCH, FOR THEIR NOT DOING ANYTHING, FOR THEIR NOT DOING THEIR JOBS PROPERLY
 
THE VERY SAD THING IS I CAN often SEE THE VERY SAME THING IN MUNICIPAL CITY HALLS.. empty desks and chairs because they employees is visiting a colleagues in another department, walking the halls, taking a coffee, smoke break..
 
Subject: The still unacceptable  waiting in the local emergency ward..
 
Isn’t it nice that some things do not change, they are so dependable, such as the inefficient usage of the local Hospital facilities, and medical personnel , staff as well/ Wrong! Some things are never acceptable.
 
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT FOR  A FEW HOURS WITH MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AT THE LOCAL EMERGENCY WARD IN THE LASALLE ANGRIGNON-MONTREAL HOSPITAL, AGAIN.
 
So I had to hear all the complaining firsthand from the sick patients about the poor services again too. If the Health Minister was not such a pretender, coward too, now  he would try that himself. And learn a few things. Such as having only one medical  doctor on duty is guarantee way to insure major unacceptable slow down in the emergency department. On top of that as I know first hand and often, the quality of services you get THERE TOO depends on the quality of the doctor himself, and half of them, the clearly really poor ones should be employed for a start elsewhere, and have half of their salary cut as well next rightfully too.
 
Now from years of experience I do also next a Hospital tour. I walk around the hospitals and observe how many hospital employees I can see talking in a group, or just floor walking, and  the medical personnel not at their desks, offices, and I had now clearly observed firstly that this hospital was not even being utilized to a 50 percent capacity, never mind now 75 percent. Clearly bad hospital mangers are responsible for this and there is a significant room for improvement. Being nice to even one bad person is still a major waste of time, and most Hospital managers, employees REALLY STILL do not care at all about the patient’s good welfare, sickness, problems, BUT ONLY THEIR OWN GOOD WELFARE, for  all they staff care about is keeping their own jobs,  getting a raise, promotion and doing the minimum amount of work possible too, because only the fear of firing can cause any hospital employee to do a better job.. So start by firing the bad Hospital managers. Bad School mangers, etc.. Health and education  Ministers firstly as well.
 
Now rightfully all of you fix the problem  and immediately too.
 
Monteal Quebec

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Palin denies accepting $150K in designer clothes Associated Press  Friday, October 24th, 2008 

“Sarah Palin says much of the fuss over the $150,000 worth of designer clothes, hairstyling and accessories the Republican Party bought her is being generated by her gender.She tells the Chicago Tribune a double standard exists. She also says the clothes aren’t worth $150,000 and were bought for the Republican National Convention.Palin says, in fact, most of the clothes have never left the campaign plane and that the whole story isn’t being told.John McCain was asked about the purchases several times on Thursday. Time and again he maintained they were bought because Palin needed clothes, and that they’d be donated to charity after the election.”  “The clothes are a complete NON-ISSUE. Without the clothes, Palin would have been ridiculed for dressing like a country bumpkin, with the clothes, she is ridiculed for spending a lot of money.” More mere hypocristy clearly by the Democrats“It is so good to be back,” Palin said, “A lot in common between Alaska and the Hoosier state. And in fact getting off the plane tonight, and getting out of the vehicle, chilly enough just like it is at home, gotta put a jacket on, you know, in this crisp – and it’s my own jacket from Wasilla, Alaska!”

But the vast US media coverage over her clothes has been much appreciated, it again, continually keeps Sarah Palin in the media spotlight and with the voters. Obama himself would love to have that much free media coverage.. maybe he should get some donated clothes next?
 
 

Sarah Palin says clothing budget row is sexist
guardian.co.uk – 2 hours ago
Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin says the clothing debate shows double standards in the election campaign. Photograph: AP vice-presidential nominee herself blamed the row on sexism.
Hockey mom says $150K clothing ‘frugal’ PRESS TV
The case for Sarah Palin’s wardrobe Toronto Star
Sydney Morning Herald – Telegraph.co.uk – The Associated Press – The Age
all 1,574 news articles »

 

SARAH PALIN has testified for the first time about her   firing of an Alaska police chief, amid false objections of the cost of her fashion makeover to the Republican campaign. Mrs Palin and her husband Todd yesterday gave sworn depositions about the Alaska firing, which a legislative inquiry said last month was within the law although some would say Mrs Palin had supposedly broken some ethics rules by pushing for her former brother-in-law to be sacked from the state police force. More bad cops should be sacked world wide too.
 
In an interview with NBC News   Mrs Palin also said she is not thinking about her political future after the election. “As for furtherance in a political career, I’m not even thinking about that, I’m thinking between now and November 4th what it is that we have to do in reaching out to the electorate, letting them know who John McCain is, what we represent and how electing John McCain is the right decision for the future of America,” she said. She still has a goal of being a winner and not a loser. Despite all the endorsements and money, Obama’s lead has really not changed significantly over the last few months. And that lead is not big enough to offset either the last-minute effect of valid Republican counter attacks and the actual votes. These two effects will  still likley  lead to John McCain getting elected. 
      
   
In her first policy speech of the presidential campaign, Gov. Sarah Palin also vowed Friday that a McCain administration would allow all special-needs students the choice of attending private schools at public expense, a potentially costly proposal.Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, also vowed that she and Sen. John McCain would provide public schools the federal money that was promised when the law covering students with special needs was passed in 1975, a pledge aimed to address the top concern of many school districts and one that has been made by many other politicians but never fulfilled.  Palin described the challenge she faced when she found out her son Trig would be born with Down syndrome, but says it has given her a newfound focus to advocate for special needs children. “When I learned that Trig would have special needs, honestly, I had to prepare my heart,” Palin said. “I did a lot of praying for that understanding, and strength, and to see purpose. And what’s been confirmed in me is every child has something to contribute to the world if we give them that chance.” Palin is concerned about children with disabilities, but she is also turning all this into an effective political fire. Today, for she laso has  accused Obama of planning to increase taxes on trust funds set up for children with disabilities.”Many families with special needs children or dependent adults, they’re concerned about in this race our opponent in this election who plans to raise taxes on precisely these kinds of financial arrangements,” Palin warned.               
             
“One of the most wonderful experiences in this campaign has been to see all the families of children with special needs who come out to rallies and events just like this,” Palin said today in Pittsburgh. “We have a bond there. We know that children with special needs inspire a special love.”You bring your sons and daughters with you, because you are proud of them, as I am of my son,” Palin continued. “My little fella sleeps during most of these rallies, even when they get pretty rowdy. He would be amazed to know how many folks come out to see him instead of me.” “Too often, even in our own day, children with special needs have been set apart and excluded,” said Palin, whose infant son Trig has Down syndrome. “Too often, state and federal laws add to their challenges, instead of removing barriers and opening new paths of opportunity. Too often, they are made to feel that there is no place for them in the life of our country, that they don’t count or have nothing to contribute. This attitude is a grave disservice to these beautiful children, to their families, and to our country — and I will work to change it.”

” In her speech, Palin said the federal government could finance the new investment by taking some of $18 billion it spends each year on earmarks, specific projects that are designated by members of Congress. “That’s more than the shortfall to fully fund the IDEA,” she said. “And where does a lot of that earmark money end up? It goes to projects having little or nothing to do with the public good — things like fruit fly research in Paris, France, or a public policy center named for the guy who got the earmark. In our administration, we’re going to reform and refocus. We’re going to get our federal priorities straight, and fulfill our country’s commitment to give every child opportunity and hope in life.””

No matter what I write about, Sarah Palin  is still the best seller on my sites too.

and many people now what to know what is happening to her now? after the election

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>>We cannot not legislate Morality?
 
and legally opposing child molestations, pornography, gay marriages, Murder, tax evasions too  now is what?
 
we all can and should preach still God’s morality and now what I had said was very clear..

WE ALL SHOULD HELP ALL OF THE POOR AND NEEDY PERSONS TOO
  
(Mark 6:35 KJV)  And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:36  Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat. 37 He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. 
  
(Acts 20:28 KJV)  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
  
(1 Cor 13:3 KJV)  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
  
(1 Pet 5:2 KJV)  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

(Mat 16:9 KJV)  Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
   
(Acts 20:35 KJV)  I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
   
(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
     

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-christian-evangelical-corporation-and-social-action/

Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical, for unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any others, only themselves it seems Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy. sick persons persons too.. they were Both Conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not basically republicans. Judas was clearly the sole republican..
  
>Are you saying that Jesus would side with the Left today?
   
Jesus, Apostles , undeniably sided with helping all of the poor persons.. where they are Republicans or Democrats too.
 
My political, real, undeniable experiences with rightwing Conservatives ,Republicans, evangelicals the last 4 decades was, is they are mostly still self centered, greedy persons..
  
What is the difference between a young conservative and an an old Conservative? Hopefully a wiser and more compassionate  liberal.
 
For me a Mature Conservative   is a liberal, generous Conservative
  
(Prov 11:25 KJV) The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
(Isa 32:8 KJV) But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
(Acts 2:44 KJV) And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
(Acts 2:45 KJV) And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:46 KJV) And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
(Acts 2:47 KJV) Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
  
(2 Cor 9:13 KJV) Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;
   
(Acts 6:1 KJV) And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. 2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.4 But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:

(1 Cor 16:2 KJV) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. 
  
1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he. may devour: whom resist steadfast in the faith” and do note this our personal active, continual steadfast resistance is always still required to the devil, at all times. Don’t open any doors at all for the devil. The devil is seeking for any crack he can crawl through in your life.
   
 (James 2:1 KJV)  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
  
(James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
  
(James 2:14 KJV)  What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
  
(James 2:17 KJV)  Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
  
(James 2:18 KJV)  Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
  
(James 2:20 KJV)  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
  
(James 2:22 KJV)  Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
  
(James 2:24 KJV)  Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
   
(James 2:26 KJV)  For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
  
(James 5:15 KJV)  And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.And where local churches who don’t have the infrastructure to help poor people in their church should establish one.. and yes they can send money to another church they can really trust to do this too in another country to help the poor people there.. it is an still unacceptable sin how much too often now the donations are too often abused. We as Christians have to be diligent to see next also how the money is obeying spent, not just in donating it.  Acts 13:6 KJV) And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Barjesus
 “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.” —2nd Corinthians 11:3-4  

I have to admit the common misleading definition of a false prophet I seem too often to see on the net is falsely rather any Pentecostal preacher

 

“Many people are pursuing prophetic ministry and it seems there is no lack of confusion surrounding its proper function. Whether you are called to prophetic ministry or just serving Christ with all your heart, you will be faced with many odd, even strange things that will require much spiritual discernment during your walk with God.” Spiritual discernment will come from the Holy Spirit and you can find confirmation in many Scriptures throughout the written Word of God. Firstly it seems Jezebel and Baalim prophets are the prevailing enemies of true prophetic ministry. These spirits intend to hijack the prophetic ministry and hold themselves out to be the “experts” in the field. They condemn criticism as irrelevant, unloving, ignorant and judgmental. Even legitimate miracles in meetings do not confirm these ministers are flowing right. Scripture says, “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity” (Matthew 7:22-23).

 

” One particular trait among some ministers is the love of money that finance extravagant lifestyles. Some who embrace these spirits are merchandisers. A merchandiser sells prophecies, healings, religious oils, potions and various products that reinforce their message. Typically they work within their own networks, focusing on getting as much money from people as possible. They have all kinds of gimmick offerings that manipulate people. They are always recruiting followers to join their groups. I have seen some work every kind of evil when it comes to stealing from God’s people.”

 

For me thus a common false prophet is also a person who has the genuine gifted office of the prophet but who tries to exploit his gifts for personal materialistic gain.. NO prophet is anointed by the Holy Spirit to curse God’s people. so now what we should do is first look at the persons in the Bible who specifically are called by name as being false prophets before we make our down supposedly sounding great but misleading definitions .. by proper rules of biblical interpretation and the law of first mention we should look at Baalim ? the false Prophet.. (1 Ki 18:18 KJV) And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father’s house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim.

 

Luke 6:46 Why do you call Me, Lord, Lord, and do not [practice] what I tell you?

 
(Luke 19:45 KJV) And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought; 46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

 

Most preachers today who sell the gospel for money tend to be still false themselves too. Neither Jesus Christ, His apostles, nor any early Church Christians sold any portion of the Gospel to others, rather they clearly gave freely to all others in need..

 

also Gehazi (2 Ki 5:20 KJV) But Gehazi, the servant of Elisha the man of God, said, Behold, my master hath spared Naaman this Syrian, in not receiving at his hands that which he brought: but, as the LORD liveth, I will run after him, and take somewhat of him. 21 So Gehazi followed after Naaman. And when Naaman saw him running after him, he lighted down from the chariot to meet him, and said, Is all well? 22 And he said, All is well. My master hath sent me, saying, Behold, even now there be come to me from mount Ephraim two young men of the sons of the prophets: give them, I pray thee, a talent of silver, and two changes of garments. 23 And Naaman said, Be content, take two talents. And he urged him, and bound two talents of silver in two bags, with two changes of garments, and laid them upon two of his servants; and they bare them before him. 24 And when he came to the tower, he took them from their hand, and bestowed them in the house: and he let the men go, and they departed. 25 But he went in, and stood before his master. And Elisha said unto him, Whence comest thou, Gehazi? And he said, Thy servant went no whither. 26 And he said unto him, Went not mine heart with thee, when the man turned again from his chariot to meet thee? Is it a time to receive money, and to receive garments, and oliveyards, and vineyards, and sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and maidservants? 27 The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cleave unto thee, and unto thy seed for ever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.

 

It is also true that one can test the real spirituality of a preacher, evangelst, Prophet also is how he treats the salvation of the Jews and also the poor people now too!

 

The sin of Baal worship includes the false love of money and the things money buys. New American Standard Bible (©1995) “I will punish her for the days of the Baals When she used to offer sacrifices to them And adorn herself with her earrings and jewelry, And follow her lovers, so that she forgot Me,” declares the LORD.
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

 

Now Piper has been called a false prophet and what surprised me next was that he did not deny it.. now that is not the first time I have seen that too. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/what-another-false-prophet-too/

 

 

 

 

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 do see also http://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/

According to the medical experts many people die needlessly, even heart attacks and strokes are highly preventable. In fact, seven of ten Americans who die each year, die of a preventable chronic disease such as heart disease and diabetes While 95 percent of the health care dollars in the US are spent on treating disease,  little attention is paid to preventing disease, which should be a national priority  ‘
 
Here Just for a start Most of us are  doing some very   wrong things…
 
-We Smoke, Take bad drugs, Consume  alcohol
The risk of dying of a heart attack is four times higher in people who smoke than in those who don’t smoke. Many of us are under the impression that the major danger from smoking is cancer but that’s not quite true; smoking is the major risk factor for heart disease, stroke, and cardiovascular disease. In fact, about 40 percent of deaths caused by cardiovascular disease are due to smoking. Bad drugs can cause cardiac arrest, heart attacks, and alcohol causes permanent brain cell damages . Avoid alcohol consumption. 5 to 7 percent of the hypertension we see in people is due to high alcohol intake. The World Health Organization estimates that almost 2/3 of strokes and 50 percent of heart attacks are caused by high blood pressure.

-We Don’t Walk enough
Over the past 50 years, health professionals have examined the association between physical activity and the risk for heart disease. The findings consistently reveal that people who are physically active have half the risk for heart attacks than people who are not active. Those studies show also that at least 30 minutes of moderate physical activity, such as brisk walking, on most days of the week, is sufficient to reduce the risk of heart attack
 
-We Eat Too Much Saturated Fat
There’s a reason why health authorities advise us to limit the consumption of saturated fat:
Saturated fat is the most rigid of all fats and is solid at room temperature. Solid fats are hard to dissolve and can easily get stuck in your arteries.
When you eat too much saturated fat, your liver keeps producing cholesterol and you end up with much more cholesterol than you need.
Limit saturated fat consumption to less than 10 percent of the total calories ingested per day.
  
We Ingest Too Many Foods Containing Hydrogenated Oils or Trans Fats
Hydrogenated oils or trans fats as they are usually called, are produced artificially by injecting molecules of hydrogen in vegetable oils, a process called hydrogenation. Through this process, the oil, which is liquid at room temperature, changes its original form and becomes solid. In other words, it becomes saturated fat. In addition, the unnatural shapes of trans fats cause our cells to become malformed and to malfunction. And that includes the cells of the heart and the arteries. Read the food label and avoid products which contain trans fats or hydrogenated fats.
  
-We Don’t Eat Enough Fruits and Vegetables
We know that people who consume plant foods regularly have a lower incidence of heart disease than those who don’t include them in their diet.
Fruits and vegetables contain phytochemicals, nonnutritive chemicals found in plant foods that protect their host plants from infections and microbial invasions. However, phytochemicals are also crucial in protecting humans against many diseases, including heart disease.
  
-We Have Too Much personal  Stress and we have not learned how to diffuse it, how to properly handle it, even to walk away from it,
Eighty percent of the population suffers from some kind of symptoms caused by stress which many times end up in illnesses such as high blood pressure—a risk factor for heart attack. 
One of the reasons why you succumb to disease easily is because tension reduces your body’s capacity to adapt to today’s changing environment.
  
and there is more..
  

 

 
All though I had a heart attack many years ago, my health had improved after my getting diabetes, and I had concluded it was related to the more stringent diet.. but it turns out also to be the diabetes medication also
The INTERHEART study, funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, shows that the risk of heart attack crosses geographic boundaries and correlates strongly to the so-called Western diet that favors salty snacks and fried foods, and to a lesser extent, meat. The risk, spread over five continents, is 30% higher for those who eat a Western diet, the study shows, than for those who adhere to a “prudent diet,” or one rich in fruits and vegetables. An Oriental diet, which is high in tofu and other soy products, doesn’t seem to lower or raise heart attack risk overall, according to the study. Researchers out of McMaster University in Ontario, Canada, examined dietary trends among more than 16,000 participants in 52 countries who were recruited between 1999 and 2003. One-third of the participants, or 5,761 people, were interviewed after having a single heart attack; the remaining 10,646 had no known heart disease, including angina, and did not suffer from diabetes, hypertension, or high cholesterol. The mean age of participants was between 53 and 57 years old. The study categorized eating patterns as Western, Oriental, and prudent. Participants answered written questions and were interviewed by medical personnel about their consumption of 19 food categories, including leafy greens, pickled foods, dairy products, and desserts. All answers were scored according to dietary risk. The study accounted for other risk factors like smoking, body mass index, age, physical activity, sex, and geographical region in assessing overall heart attack risk. It did not track long-term changes in regional eating habits and their link with health problems. Researchers concluded that the higher the regular intake of fried and salty foods, the higher the risk of heart attack regardless of which region of the world one resides in; prudent dietary habits carried the lowest risk. An Oriental diet seemed to be protective against heart attack in some regions of the world, but was not the best hedge overall, perhaps because of the high salt content of soy and other sauces common in the dining choices.  “The objective of this study was to understand the modifiable risk factors of heart attacks at a global level,” says Salim Yusuf, DPhil, the study’s senior author. “This study indicates that the same relationships that are observed in Western countries exist in different regions of the world.” Yusuf is a professor of medicine at McMaster University and is director of the Population Health Research Institute at Hamilton Health Sciences in Ontario, Canada. The study acknowledges that serving sizes and preparation technique (the type of fat used in cooking, for example) could play a role in increasing heart attack risk in participants adhering to a Western diet.  http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20081020/western-diet-is-a-global-heart-risk
 
Oct. 27, 2008 — A review of 40 clinical drug trials failed to produce reliable conclusions about the effects of oral diabetes medicines on cardiovascular health, despite controversy over the drug Avandia. However, researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health did find that metformin seemed to be associated with a decrease in heart disease and heart-related deaths Despite a finding that the drug trials, most of them short-term, were not comprehensive enough to yield the best data, researchers point to metformin as a drug that is “moderately protective” and Avandia as “possibly harmful.” The earlier analysis of the effect of diabetes drugs on cardiovascular health, reported in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2007, showed that Avandia, which works well to reduce blood sugar, was associated with a higher risk of heart attack. However, researchers in that case also acknowledged that their conclusions were limited by a lack of access to original clinical data. http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20081027/do-diabetes-drugs-affect-heart-health
— It may be possible for people with type 2 diabetes to reverse a heart threat without surgery, a new study shows. The study included 358 people with type 2 diabetes who took stress tests to check their heart’s health. The stress tests showed that a fifth of the patients had silent myocardial ischemia. Translation: Those patients had no heart disease symptoms, but their heart muscle didn’t get enough oxygen during the stress test. Heart muscle needs oxygen, which it gets from blood. Blood flow to the heart muscle suffers if the coronary arteries narrow. Ischemia (and possibly a heart attack) can be the result. The patients and their doctors were free to pick any ischemia treatment. None of the patients got surgery, but they tended to start taking at least one of the following medications:
Aspirin
Statin drugs, which lower LDL (“bad”) cholesterol
ACE inhibitors, which lower blood pressure
Three years after their initial stress test, the patients repeated the stress test. The researchers expected that the patients’ ischemia would have worsened. But they were wrong. Of the 71 patients who had ischemia at the study’s start, 56 patients (79%) no longer had ischemia three years later. That finding was “striking and unexpected,” write Yale University’s Frans Wackers, MD, and colleagues. The researchers aren’t sure that the medications reversed ischemia. For instance, the study doesn’t show whether the patients also got serious about their diet and exercise after learning they had silent cardiac ischemia, or which medications helped most. The surprising results deserve further research, Wackers and colleagues conclude.
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20071026/diabetes-heart-help-without-surgery
 

Potassium and Your Heart

Potassium is a simple mineral with a crucial job: helping your heart beat. A hundred thousand times a day, potassium helps trigger your heart’s squeeze of blood through your body. If you have high blood pressure, heart failure, or heart rhythm problems, getting enough potassium is especially important. And although potassium and cholesterol aren’t directly related, eating a potassium-rich diet just might lower your cholesterol, too.

Potassium: Abundant and invisible

Potassium exists in abundance in soil and seawater. A healthy amount of potassium is essential to all plant and animal life. A critical electrolyte, potassium allows our muscles to move, our nerves to fire and our kidneys to filter blood. The right balance of potassium literally allows the heart to beat. Most people get plenty of potassium just by eating a normal American diet. The main source of potassium in our food is fruits and vegetables. Dairy products, whole grains, meat, and fish also provide potassium.

Excellent sources of potassium include:

  • potatoes
  • tomatoes
  • avocados
  • fresh fruits (bananas, oranges, and strawberries)
  • orange juice
  • dried fruits (raisins, apricots, prunes, and dates)
  • spinach
  • beans and peas

Eating a diet rich in fruits and vegetables is the best way to get enough potassium. You’ll also get the other benefits of a high fruits-and-veggies diet. Those include:

  • reduction of heart disease risk
  • lower cancer risk
  • lower risk for obesity

Potassium and your heart

In healthy amounts, potassium is a heart-friendly mineral. Potassium doesn’t treat or prevent heart disease. Numerous studies show, though, that getting enough potassium has heart-healthy benefits in several important ways.

Potassium and high blood pressure

In one major study of people with high blood pressure, taking potassium supplements reduced systolic blood pressure (the top number) by about 8 points. But you don’t have to pop potassium pills to get the heart-healthy benefits. A diet high in fruits and vegetables (good sources of potassium) and fat-free or low-fat dairy foods can help lower systolic blood pressure by more than 10 points in people with hypertension.

Potassium and high cholesterol

A direct link between potassium and cholesterol hasn’t been established. But it’s interesting that many diets proven to lower cholesterol are also high in potassium. If you have abnormal cholesterol levels, you’re at higher than average risk for heart disease. The same goes for anyone with any of the other risk factors for atherosclerosis:

  • smoking
  • high blood pressure
  • age over 55 for men or 65 for women
  • lack of exercise
  • obesity

Taking potassium isn’t known to reduce the risk of heart attacks. But by making sure you’re taking in enough potassium, you’ll probably end up eating more fruits and vegetables. A healthy diet — high in fruits and veggies and low in saturated fat and cholesterol — can help cholesterol levels and reduce the risk of heart disease

Potassium and abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias)

For people with abnormal heart rhythms, potassium may be even more important. Potassium is hiding inside every heartbeat. Each heart muscle needs just the right potassium balance in order to contract in a coordinated fashion.

People who’ve had abnormal heart rhythms — arrhythmias or dysrhythmias — are at risk for an uncoordinated heart rhythm. Some abnormal heart rhythms include:

  • atrial fibrillation
  • atrial flutter
  • ventricular tachycardia
  • ventricular fibrillation
  • supraventricular tachycardia
  • Wolf-Parkinson-White syndrome

People with a history of arrhythmias should see a doctor on a regular basis. A periodic potassium check might be part of your routine doctor’s visits.

Potassium and heart failure

For many people with heart failure (also called congestive heart failure), getting enough potassium is especially important. Some diuretics — water pills — for heart failure can cause you to lose potassium in the urine. Potassium supplements or a potassium-rich diet can put it back. Ask your doctor before starting a potassium supplement on your own because it may not be necessary.

Potassium: How much?

When it comes to potassium, it is possible to have too much of a good thing. Healthy people shouldn’t have any problems from eating a high-potassium diet or taking potassium supplements as directed. But people with kidney problems or certain other conditions such as the following need to be cautious about potassium intake:

  • acute renal failure
  • chronic kidney disease or dialysis dependence
  • use of medications that increase potassium levels, including spironolactone (Aldactone), triamterene, or trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole (Bactrim)

How much potassium should you be eating? The easiest thing to do is to increase the amount of high-potassium fruits and vegetables in your diet. You’ll be getting plenty of potassium — with no calculator required.

If you really feel like counting, the USDA recommends 4,700 milligrams of potassium per day. You can find the potassium content in foods on their package labels or from the USDA Web site: http://www.nal.usda.gov.

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/potassium-and-your-heart

Short sleep tied to heart disease risk National Post –  NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – People with high blood pressure who get less than the standard amount of sleep may face an increased risk of heart disease and stroke, researchers reported Monday.
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Third of heart risk down to food BBC News –  Swapping fried and salty foods for salads could cut the global incidence of heart attacks by a third, a study of eating habits suggests.
Western Diet Boosts Global Heart Attack Risk 30% U.S. News & World Report
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Western diet to blame for 35% of heart attacks, global study suggests
CBC.ca – 1 hour ago
A Western diet rich in fried foods, salt and meat accounts for 35 per cent of heart attacks worldwide, researchers say. The findings support evidence that animal fat and junk food can lead to heart attacks.
In any diet, fried food, meat raise heart-attack risk: Study Canada.com
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Diets worldwide that are rich in fried and salty foods increase heart attack risk, while eating lots of fruit, leafy greens and other vegetables reduces that risk, a groundbreaking study showed.I made a study for years of the reasons many   people get heart attacks .. it is often a family disease, meaning related family bad habits.. such as the lack of physical exercise,   how   one handles the stressful situations,  how well you sleep included.. and   the type of food eaten and how it is prepared… steamed food is  advisable and often thus too..   The quality of sleep is more important than the Quantity too. Heart stress and food digestion are also related, related even to cancer, having heart attacks now as well. Jesus will do his part, heal us after we do our part first.  http://groups.msn.com/CanadaToday6/heartattackscancer.msnw

It is also now very undeniable we are all also a by product as well as what we eat.. and even a Potassium deficiency.. causes of which are many.. including a medicinal side effect, and the consumption of salt,  soft drinks..   

If Mother Nature was to deprive you of potassium completely, hard scientific evidence proves you would be dead in less than three weeks. Some Symptoms of Potassium Deficiency: Bad circulation, bluish tint to skin, Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome, diabetes, earaches, edema, headaches, heart palpitations, hypertension, insomnia, intestinal pain, muscle weakness, oppressive breathing, pain in the eyes, prolapsed uterus, swollen glands, tissue anemia, and water retention. http://www.infoforyourhealth.com/Heart%20Conditions/Congestive%20Heart%20Failure.htm 

Risks of heart attack the number one killer of persons can also be  directly  related to bacteria in gum plaque  and not merely to one’s smoking or drinking alcohol habits for a start.. This Bacteria that live in the sub-gingival plaques can increase the risk of heart attack for all people.
 
A recent Medical study describes the association between heart disease and gum disease to be at least as strong as the linkage of heart disease to cholesterol, body weight, or smoking. In fact, research suggests that gum disease may be a more serious risk factor for heart disease than  hypertension, smoking, cholesterol, gender and age. So Good dental hygiene  could save your life save you from a heart attack . Science has recently found a direct connection between gum disease and inflammation of the arteries, blood clots, hemorrhages, strokes and heart attacks.  Add to this that over half of all American men have some form of gum disease and you have the ingredients for an epidemic. Despite this connection, conventional medicine has completely ignored oral health in their heart recommendations.   Reference: American Academy of Periodontology, News release, June 2005  http://www.medindia.net/News/view_news_main.asp?x=3802&t=gn 
 
Healthy Teeth Can Reduce Heart Attack Risk- Healthy teeth could help to reduce the risk of heart attacks and strokes, current studies show.Experts say there is increasing evidence of a link between gum disease and heart disease. Experts say “If you have a healthy mouth you are less likely to get coronary heart disease.” After reviewing all of the studies comparing the two disorders, Dental Journals say that periodontal disease could be as significant a risk factor for heart disease as smoking and a high cholesterol diet. “Evidence is now emerging that dental health, in particular periodontal disease, may also be a significant risk for the development of coronary heart disease,” experts claim. “In general the most important studies are large and the quality of epidemiology has been good. There is probably now enough evidence to suggest that there is a relationship in which we, as dentists, should begin to be interested.” There are studies dating back to 1965, examining the link between the two diseases. In two of the larger studies done is the United States the evidence was striking. The National Health and Nutrition Examination Study in 1993, which included nearly 10,000 people aged 25-74, showed that patients with periodontal disease had a 25 percent increased risk of coronary heart disease compared to people without gum problems. A more recent study that involved 1,147 men found “the incidence of coronary heart disease, fatal coronary heart disease and stroke were all significantly related to the baseline periodontal status,” the study said. Smoking, diabetes and low socio-economic status have been implicated in both coronary heart disease and periodontal disease. Sugar and fluoride intake are also related to tooth decay and gum disease, and could be a contributing factor to heart attacks and strokes. Experts say one of the likely causes for the association between the two diseases is bacteria. “An interaction between specific bacteria in dental plaque (the soft layer of mainly bacteria that forms on the teeth) and platelets (components of blood involved in clotting) has also been suggested as contributing towards the association between periodontal disease and coronary heart disease.” Periodontitis is an infection of the gums which causes a natural defence mechanism in the body. The interaction is localised in the gums but it could also trigger reactions elsewhere in the body. “There is a lot of evidence now saying that chronic infections may be an important trigger for atheroma formation (degenerative changes in the arteries). We must consider periodontal disease as a similar chronic infection,” they say. The link appeared to be most obvious in men aged 40-50 years old but the majority of the analysis concerned men. Coronary heart disease is much more prevalent in males. Although women can also be affected by both diseases, they were generally not included in the studies. The present consensus is that Dentists should continue to emphasise that improving dental health generally — and gum health in particular — helps to maintain natural teeth and may also help to reduce the risk of coronary heart disease. http://dentistcom.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/healthy-teeth-can-reduce-heart-attack-risk/
 
There have been many other similar collaborating medical studies too..  and why the poor people suffer the most.. it is they cannot afford regular dental cleaning and the costs of dentists.
   
“Heart attacks linked to nine risk factors: study – Washington, August 31  A large international study led by a Canadian has linked more than 90 per cent of heart attacks to nine easy-to-measure risk factors common to essentially every region and every ethnic group in the world, a media report has said.  The study conducted under Salim Yusuf, Director of the Population Health Research Institute at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario (Canada) found that leading risk factors for heart attack were abnormal cholesterol, current smoking, abdominal obesity, depression and stress, high blood pressure and diabetes. According to the study preventive factors were eating fruits and vegetables daily, regular exercise and moderate alcohol consumption. “The risk factors are the same all over the planet,” said Jean-Pierre Bassand, President of the European Society of Cardiology. “Political action is desperately needed” in all countries to devise plans geared towards prevention, he said. The findings, said The Wall Street Journal, add to the evidence of the rising global burden of cardiovascular disease, particularly in developing countries, where it is supplanting infectious diseases as the most important cause of death. -Depression and stress, which were determined from several different questionnaires used in the study of 15,152 patients from 52 countries, accounted for a 2.5-fold risk in a person’s risk of a heart attack. – Regular consumption of fruits and vegetables was associated with a 30 per cent reduction of an individual’s risk of a heart attack while regular exercise lowered risk by 14 per cent.”
 Why  is the Latinos, Blacks, Natives, poor people subject so much to sickness.. they cannot afford the good food? or also do not know what good food is? 

Researchers at Scotland’s University of Dundee administered aspirin, an antioxidant or a placebo to 1,276 adult diabetics with no initial symptoms of heart disease, and monitored their health for eight years. Neither the aspirin nor the antioxidant did any better than the placebo in reducing the incidence of heart attack or stroke.

 
Studies have shown that among people who have previously suffered a heart attack or stroke, aspirin reduces the risk of subsequent events by 25%.  “The key message is to keep taking your aspirin if you’ve had a heart attack or stroke,”
 
Compared to the general population, diabetics are up to five times more likely to suffer from heart disease, and approximately 80% of people with the condition die from heart attack or stroke.  But how much of this is still related to foods, stress, proper exercise, rest..
 
Did you also  know that some medications, for even colds, flu, diabetes, etc., can even increase your risk to a heart attack too?  

The study, called INTERHEART, looked at 16,000 heart attack patients and controls between 1999 and 2003 in countries on every continent, marking a shift from previous studies which have focussed on the developed world…

The researchers found that people who eat a diet high in fried foods, salty snacks, eggs and meat — the “Western Diet” — had a 35 percent greater risk of having a heart attack than people who consumed little or no fried foods or meat, regardless of where they live.

Most people also do not even know how to eat proper foods, even professionals included.. thus next a lot of people do  have related health problems..    

for more see
 

http://12diabetes.tripod.com/

http://12diabetes.tripod.com/info.htm

 

 

http://pkbulow.tripod.com/HealthII.htm

 

 

Now we should already all should know that unresolved stress, smoking, alcohol, bad drugs, inadequate physical exercises, lack of proper sleep,  bad teeth, over weight,  and poor eating habits do cause heart attacks that  kill people..    

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/publichealthpriorities.html
http://www.tobaccofreeutah.org/finalpressrelease.doc

 

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Bad Report urges Ottawa to keep ISP traffic throttling in place..
 
Ottawa shouldn’t give in to demands that Internet providers treat all traffic the same, says a Canadian telecommunications consultancy,  Montreal-based SeaBoard Group in a report released Thursday, another salvo in the war on net neutrality.   The report comes out as the industry awaits the release of a ruling by the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) on a complaint from a group of Internet service providers against Bell Canada’s traffic-shaping efforts. A decision had been expected at the end of September. The CRTC regulates cable and telephones, and therefore could have a say over the Internet. However, it decided in 1999 to be hands-off on new media. In March, Bell began throttling Internet traffic to subscribers and ISP resellers of its DSL service during peak hours, claiming a minority of customers are consuming large amounts of bandwidth to the detriment of the rest. The Canadian Association of Internet Providers quickly demanded the CRTC order Bell to stop slowing traffic, saying the move damages subscribers wanting fast speeds. But Bell argued managing bandwidth makes service equal for all. Meanwhile, the commission is in the middle of what it calls a New Media Project Initiative and re-examining its decision to keep its hands off new media. That review may touch on net neutrality. In the U.S., Comcast throttled BitTorrent traffic until earlier this year, when the Federal Communications Commission ordered it to stop unless it could prove the effort is necessary. Comcast then came up with a new strategy: Impose a download cap of 250Gb a month to each subscriber. SeaBoard says the first public case relating to the Net neutrality debate in France came in 2007 when the French ISP Neuf Cegetel was accused by the videosharing site Dailymotion of throttling access. Neuf Cegetel refuted the claims citing technical difficulties and the subject was eventually dropped.
 
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Canadian groups debate ISP traffic throttling
ISPs ask the CRTC to stop Bell from defying law
Net neutrality: Google vs. Seaboard
 
I think that Google would have a better understanding of the sources of innovation on the Internet than a consultancy firm like Seaboard who, as far as I know, don’t actually do anything other than comment on other folks’ innovation. Also, as always, who paid for their report? Written by: DT, 
Report urges Ottawa to keep ISP traffic throttling in place  The bums make all the same kinds of arguments that were used to seal FTA abd NAFTA.
Written by: Rodney,
 
The SeaBoard Group is unqualified to make recommendations on..  The SeaBoard Group is by no means qualified to comment on this issue. They are a consulting firm whose clients are technology corporations including communication carriers, so they have a financial stake in this and it’s no surprise then that their report sides with the corporate position. Also, the “group” consists of three analysts: 2 economists and 1 marketing/commerce person. So who among them has an understanding of technical aspects of controlling net congestion? Answer: none of them. The report is really just an opinion piece on how market forces always know what’s best (which is what economists always say). It does not investigate Bell’s claim that traffic shaping using deep packet inspection and throttling is the only means to manage congestion (a claim which is entirely false as the Comcast example proves). It does not investigate how deep packet inspection impacts consumer privacy. And it only says that ISPs should be careful not to give themselves an advantage by throttling competitor traffic (which obviously they will as the Telstra example proves). ISPs do have to manage their networks to prevent congestion, but their is absolutely no need for them to employ traffic shaping to do so (upper limits on bandwidth and monthly caps are fair and already in use). They just want to use traffic shaping because it gives them a lot power and they use the excuse of network congestion to justify it. But no one should fall for it, the FCC didn’t. And the SeaBoard group has no credibility on this issue.
Written by: Stephen,
 
Simply illegal  There is already (illegal) Cap on so call unlimited internet. and now they want to illegally degrade a service i alreayd paid? ISPs who throttle need to be fined a couple of millions to set a exemple and prevented from ANY KIND of throttling as it is clearly illegal for them to do so. I paid for 10 Mbiit i want my 10 mbits.. if the ISP oversold it is not mhy problems…. How much do you think the MPAA/RIAA paid the Canadian ISPs to illegally throttling P2P traffic?
Written by: Mectron, from Penticton
 
Report urges Ottawa to keep ISP traffic throttling in place  Mr. Goodey has a good point. Since we are receiving less, we should be charged less. But, we are consumers which equals the bottom of the barrel for these pitiful (mono/duo) polices… This is a typical “Con” job – pun intended. I think the best thing that could come out of this is the fabulous chance to reconnect with nature – I always wanted to take up biking. Plus, I’ll save money, not having to spend any more money on computer / internet gear…
Written by: Dan, from Gatineau, QC
 
Report urges Ottawa to keep ISP traffic throttling in place  If you bought a ton of coal from me and I delivered 700 pounds but demanded full payment how would you feel? Cheated? Well now you know how I feel. Bell, Rogers, Shaw have a monopoly. They want to charge full price but not have to deliver.
Written by: Publis, 
Report urges Ottawa to keep ISP traffic throttling in place
“Comcast then came up with a new strategy: Impose a download cap of 250 Gb a month to each subscriber. Some observers think most Canadian providers will soon move to such caps, commonly seen on wireless handsets.” Caps already exist and I could only wish they were so high. Rogers has a cap of 60 GB a month for high speed express internet. CRTC wants to run the Internet like they do television and Radio. Which means Canadians will continue to get screwed out of good content in an effort to protect something that is not very good anyways… Canadian media content.
Written by: Chu, 
why should we pay for internet service we are not receiving?..  put a meter on that throttle then—–the more we are deprived of receiving full service——the less we should have to pay for it i do not like paying for something i am not getting——its called fraud.
Written by: yahn goodey, 
Selected throttling is illegal censorship  Customers are already throttled based on their package. If a customer is paying for a 10Mbit connection, why should their speed be restricted to 5Mbit for certain types of traffic? If they are paying for 10Mbit, they should get 10Mbit. Regardless of how the ISPs are trying to spin this, it all boils down to the fact that they want to be able to make corporate sanctioned traffic be fast, and everything else be slow. This means that big corporations websites will be fast (i.e. Disney, CNN, Google) and small business websites will be slow.”

Bell’s own retailers sue company for breaking contracts
CBC.ca – 2 hours ago
By Peter Nowak CBC News Bell Canada’s independent retailers say the company is giving better sales incentives to non-exclusive dealers such as Best Buy and Future Shop.
Retailers sue Bell Toronto Star
Bell Canada sued by independent dealers over reduced commissions The Canadian Press
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 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control/

 

Bell Canada sued by independent dealers over reduced commissions

MONTREAL — Bell Canada’s (TSX:BCE) independent retail outlets are suing Canada’s largest telecommunications company for $200 million in an interfamily squabble over reduced commissions.

The Independent Communications Dealer Association of Canada, claiming to represent four-fifths of Bell’s independently operated stores, said Tuesday it has begun litigation in Ontario and Quebec, alleging Bell has broken its contract in several ways.

The association, saying it represents 172 store locations under the Bell, Bell World, Bell Mobility, Espace Bell and Bell Mobilite banners, cites “a downward spiral in our relationship that has escalated under Bell’s current management over the last three years.”

Association president Doris Ronca, who owns two Bell World stores in Montreal, said the group has been trying to negotiate with Bell in good faith to resolve the various problems it faces.

“Unfortunately we’ve reached a dead end and have no other choice but to go to the courts,” she said in an interview.

The dealers have knocked heads with Bell before, and purused a $135 million lawsuit in 2006 against the phone giant over a failed move by the dealers to turn their network into an income trust.

They had hoped to combine their stores in one business and float it on the stock market, but the phone company vetoed the plan.

During much of 2005, income trusts were a hot Bay Street strategy that generated tax advantages for companies that turned themselves into trusts. In late 2006, the Conservative government imposed a tax on new trusts beginning in 2011 that curbed the sector.

At the time, Bell said it would vigorously defend itself in the lawsuit.

Ronca accused Bell of years of mismanagement that has resulted in losing customer and investor brand loyalty and falling from first to third place in the wireless marketplace.

Bell is now punishing its own exclusive dealer channel by not honouring agreements and systematically destroying the competitiveness, reputations and the value of businesses that have been built over 20 years, said Ronca.

“This didn’t just start yesterday. It’s been a problem for several years now.”

The litigation claims Bell has ignored a commitment in March to leave dealers’ fees and commissions untouched until mid-2009.

It alleges that Bell has eliminated until December the payment of commissions for customers that replace handsets and renew contracts. These commissions account for up to 70 per cent of an outlet’s revenues.

It also says commissions for new product sales have been cut by between 10 per cent and 20 per cent.

The impact will be the layoff of more than 300 employees at stores in Quebec and Ontario as they lose $17.5 million in commissions until December, Ronca said.

The association says Bell is providing more lucrative incentives to non-exclusive retailers such as Wireless Wave, Best Buy and Future Shop.

And it says Bell’s direct marketing is undercutting the dealer chain.

The lawsuits claim over $200 million in damages, demand that Bell honour its current agreements, and seek the right to sell products from competitors like Telus, Rogers and new entrants in the mobile-phone business.

Bell Canada couldn’t be immediately reached for comment, but is expected to respond to the lawsuit later Tuesday.

The company’s parent BCE Inc. (TSX:BCE) is in the final stages of completing its $52 billion takeover by an investment group led by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan Board and its U.S. partners.

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iMe48mJFvpeptjUvDW1a0U0zqh1g

Bell Canada Inc.’s independent retailers are suing the company for years of “abusive, arbitrary” business practices that include changing their contracted commissions. The Independent Communications Dealer Association of Canada, which represents 172, or 80 per cent, of Bell’s independent stores, announced on Tuesday it had filed suit against the company for three years of “not honouring agreements and systematically destroying our competitiveness, reputations and the value of our businesses that we have built, some of us for over 20 years,” the group said in a statement. The retailers seek more than $200 million in damages against the company as well as a reversal of all competitive measures listed in its suit, and a commitment to honour its current contract. “Once we sign a contract, we expect that contract to be honoured, but instead, year over year, they make changes to it without our agreement,” said CDAC vice-president Rick Umbrio. “All we’re asking is for Bell to honour their commitments and agreements. We want to be able to negotiate with Bell, put something in writing and they honour it, not change it on the fly.” The final straw in the “downward spiral” of their relationship, Umbrio said, came recently when Bell decided to cut commissions dealers earn on upgrading customers to new phones. The retailers had signed a contract with Bell in March that would leave their commissions untouched until June, 2009.  http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/10/21/tech-bell.html

 and I already have even been saying how bad  Bell is now in regard to keeping contractual agreements even for a whole year now too on the net too.

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/tag/bell/

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One thing is still very clear the too often pretentious news media and  the too often pretentious  politicians are not actively doing their jobs in helping people to be informed, having the proper facts to be able to make the proper decisions, take the proper actions, so do thank God for the existence of the internet, no matter how imperfect now it itself is as well.. it offers now at least some valid truths to the discerning readers.
 
 Booze may speed shrinking of the brain
Chicago Sun-Times –  First, the experts said drinking low to moderate amounts of alcohol was a good idea, that it might protect against heart disease. Now, a study has found that such drinking has a risk: It might speed the shrinking of the brain that naturally comes with
Study Links Drinking Alcohol To Shrinking Of The Brain dBTechno
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Ignorance is still no excuse in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of God..
 
(Psa 73:22 KJV) So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.(Isa 56:10 KJV) His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. 12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.(Rom 10:3 KJV) For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.“Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise” Proverbs 20:1; “Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder” Proverbs 23:29-32; “But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment. For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean” Isaiah 28:7-8.(1 Cor 14:38 KJV) But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
 
Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages. The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.
 
Living for Christ: A Lifestyle that Honours God
 
1 Timothy 5:23: “Use a little wine for the sake of your stomach” A favorite verse of many people is Paul’s advice to Timothy in 1 Timothy 5:23 to “No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.” We need to note several things. Timothy obviously doesn’t even drink grape juice! (Note: in an earlier letter 1 Tim 3:2-3 Paul had told Timothy an Elderto be abstinent (nephalion), and a nonparticipant at drinking places and parties (meparoinon). Obviously advise Timothy had carefully followed). Additionally this is only for a ‘medical’ reason. Most significantly, historical testimonies tell us the ancients advised the use of use of unfermented wine for medical purposes. For example, Athenaeus, theGrammarian (A.D. 280), specifically advises one use unfermented “sweet wine” (glukonoinon) for stomach disorders. He writes: “Let him take sweet wine, either mixed with water or warmed, especially that kind called protropos, the sweet Lesbian glukus, asbeing good for the stomach; for sweet wine [oinos] does not make the head heavy.” (Athenaeus, Banquet 2, 24). This sounds similar to Paul. Athenaeus calls the wine” lesbian” because its alcoholic potency had been removed. Pliny (A. D. 79), a contemporary of Paul and author of the celebrated Natural History gives similar recommendations. He advise the use of boiled unfermented wine called adynamon for sick persons “for whom it is feared that wine may be harmful.” (Pliny, Natural History 14,18). Even if it were alcoholic wine Paul was talking about, it would only justify medical uses of alcohol. Paul is not here suggesting moderate drinking. Be abstinent The New Testament often admonitions abstinence through the Greek verb nepho and the adjective nephalios((1 Th 5:6 KJV) Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
(1 Th 5:7 KJV) For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
(1 Th 5:8 KJV) But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(1 Tim 3:11 KJV) Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
(2 Tim 4:5 KJV) But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
(Titus 2:2 KJV) That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
(1 Pet 1:13 KJV) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
(1 Pet 4:7 KJV) But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
(1 Pet 5:8 KJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:).
So note how many times the new testament says to be soberan d it should be translated as abstinent or abstaining from wineThere is noteworthy unanimity among Greek lexicons on the primary meaning of the verb nepho as “to abstain from wine” and of the adjective nephalios as”abstinent, without wine.” (See, for example, G. W. Lampe, A Patristic Greek Lexicon (Oxford, 1961),s. v. “Nepho”; James Donnegan, A New Greek and English Lexicon, 1847 edition, s. v. ” Nepho”; ThomasS. Green, A Greek-English Lexicon to the New Testament, 1892 edition, s. v. ” Nepho”; E. Robinson, AGreek and English Lexicon of the New Testament (New York, 1850), s. v. ” Nepho”; G. Abbott-Smith, AManual Greek Lexicon of the New Testament, 1937 edition, s. v. ” Nepho”; Hesychius of Alexandria,Hesychii Alexandri Lexicon, 1858 edition, s. v. ” Nephalios”; Demetrios C. S. Byzantios, Lexicon Epitomoutes Ellenikes Glosses, 1939 edition, s. v. “Nephalios.”). Josephus and Philo, who were contemporaries of Paul and Peter, both tell us the priests, who were not allowed to drink any wine were nephalioi andnephalios. (Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 3, 12, 2, trans. William Whiston, Josephus Complete Works(Grand Rapids, 1974), p. 81 and Philo, De Specialibus Legibus 4, 183). The adjective nephalios in ((1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; (1 Tim 3:11 KJV) Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. (Titus 2:2 KJV) That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.) can and should be read as abstinent. And nepho in ((1 Th 5:6 KJV) Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. (1 Th 5:7 KJV) For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. (1 Th 5:8 KJV) But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. (1 Pet 1:13 KJV) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; (1 Pet 5:8 KJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: ), should be translated as abstinent or abstaining from wine. Unfortunately, translators soften the meaning of the word and translate it in amore figurative sense as merely “temperate, sober, steady. ”While there is no simplistic “Thou shall not” command concerning alcohol, the Bible warns against wine that intoxicates. In addition to the Bibles warnings, there are many reasons for a Christian to avoid alcohol. Up to half of all crime is committed while under the influence of alcohol. There is our influence and example to friends, family and children (you cannot teach what you refuse to practice – its called hypocrisy). Many people are strongly predisposed to alcoholism and one drink may begin a lifetime of struggle and suffering. Finally, in view of Jesus soon return, we should avoid anything that would adversely affect our minds, hearts, bodies and social example. (Note: This study has used/adapted material from “Wine in the Bible” by S. Bacchiocchi).Alcohol causes more pain, death and suffering than all illegal drugs and should be completely avoided by a disciple of Jesus for moral, spiritual and scriptural reasonsWhat about wine or alcohol? The Bible has no simplistic command that says, “You shall not drink alcohol,” though some warnings come close (The Bible doesn’t say, “Don’ttake LSD”, yet all Christians rightly condemn such drugs). However, the whole voice and direction of the Bible is clearly against intoxicating drink. We can tell this because wine that intoxicates is portrayed negatively in Biblical narratives and is routinely warned against ((Lev 10:8 KJV) And the LORD spake unto Aaron, saying, (Lev 10:9 KJV) Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: (Lev 10:10 KJV) And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean; (Lev 10:11 KJV) And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses. (Judg 13:3 KJV) And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son. (Judg 13:4 KJV) Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing: (Prov 20:1 KJV) Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. (Prov 23:31 KJV) Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. (Prov 31:4 KJV) It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink: (Prov 31:5 KJV) Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted. (Hab 2:5 KJV) Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people: (Eph 5:18 KJV) And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; (1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; (1 Tim 3:3 KJV) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; ), whereas non-intoxicating wine is portrayed positively ((Gen 27:28 KJV) Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine: (Gen 49:10 KJV) The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. (Gen 49:11 KJV) Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: (Gen 49:12 KJV) His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk. (Psa 104:14 KJV) He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; (Psa 104:15 KJV) And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man’s heart. (Isa 55:1 KJV) Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. (Amos 9:13 KJV) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. (John 2:10 KJV) And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. (John 2:11 KJV) This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.). This simultaneous approval and disapproval of ‘wine’ can seem confusing and contradictory. This problem largely disappears when we realize that the Hebrew and Greek words for wine (yayin and oinos) can mean either fermented or unfermented wine. The ancient writers who were contemporaries with many of the Biblical writers use the words to refer to both types of wine.For example in his book Metereologica, Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) speaks of unfermented grape juice (glukus), saying: “though called wine [oinos], it has not the effect of wine, for it does not taste like wine and does not intoxicate like ordinary wine.” Aristotle explicitly tells us unfermented grape juice was called “oinos” or “wine”. Other examples can be found in ancient Jewish writings also (The Septuagint, a translation of the Old Testament in Greek, often translates the Hebrew word for grape-juice “tirosh” by the Greek word ‘oinos’ or wine). The problem is not wine but what kind of wine. The Bible speaks against fermented wine, but for unfermented wine. Scripture condemns the use of alcoholic beverages because they distort the perception of reality ((Prov 23:33 KJV) Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. (Isa 28:7 KJV) But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment. ); they impair the capacity to make moral, responsible decisions ((Lev 10:9 KJV) Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: (Lev 10:10 KJV) And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean; (Lev 10:11 KJV) And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.); they weaken moral sensitivities and inhibitions ((Gen 9:21 KJV) And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. (Gen 19:32 KJV) Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. (Isa 5:11 KJV) Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them! (Isa 5:12 KJV) And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hands. (Hab 2:15 KJV) Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness! ); they cause physical sickness ((Psa 60:3 KJV) Thou hast showed thy people hard things: thou hast made us to drink the wine of astonishment. (Prov 23:20 KJV) Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: (Prov 23:21 KJV) For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags. (Isa 19:14 KJV) The LORD hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit. (Hosea 7:5 KJV) In the day of our king the princes have made him sick with bottles of wine; he stretched out his hand with scorners. ); and they disqualify for civil and religious service ((Lev 10:9 KJV) Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: (Lev 10:10 KJV) And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean; (Lev 10:11 KJV) And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses. (Prov 31:4 KJV) It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink: (Prov 31:5 KJV) Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted. (1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; (1 Tim 3:3 KJV) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; (Titus 1:7 KJV) For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; (Titus 1:8 KJV) But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; ). Contrary to popular opinion, it was as hard if not harder to preserve fermented wine than unfermented grape juice. To prevent fermented wine from becoming acid, moldy, or foul-smelling, the ancients used many preservatives such as salt, sea-water, liquid or solid pitch, boiled-down must, marble dust, lime, sulphur fumes or crushed iris. In comparison the preservation of grape juice unfermented was a relatively simpler process. Ancient sources inform us of four main ways: (1) by boiling down the juice to a syrup, (2) by separating the fermentable pulp from the juice of the grape by means of filtration, (3) by placing freshly pressed grape juice in sealed jars which were immersed in a pool of cold water, and (4) by fumigating the wine jars with sulphur before sealing them. What follows are some Bible texts that are commonly misused by people to justify moderate drinking .Many think Jesus turned water into alcoholic wine at the wedding of Cana. Supposedly “good wine” is that which has a high alcoholic content. However, ancient authors from Jesus day considered “good wine” to be unfermented wine whose alcoholic potency had been removed by boiling or filtration. Pliny, for example, says “wines are most beneficial (utilissimum) when all their potency has been removed by the strainer.” (Pliny, Natural History 23, 24, trans. W. H. S. Jones, The Loeb Classical Library, Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1961). Similarly, Plutarch tells us wine is “much more pleasant to drink” when it “neither inflames the brain nor infests the mind or passions” because its strength has been removed through frequent filtering. (Plutarch, Symposiac 8, 7). The ancient Jewish Talmud indicates that drinking to the accompaniment of musical instruments on festive occasions such as a wedding was forbidden. (See Sotah 48a; also Mishna Sotah 9, 11). Some interpret John 2:10 “well drunk” as meaning very intoxicated. But the Greek verb methusko is correctly translated “to drink freely” by the RSV of the Bible, without any implication of intoxication. New Wine in New Wineskins Christ’s statement that “new wine must be put into fresh wineskins” ((Mat 9:17 KJV) Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. (Mark 2:22 KJV) And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles. (Luke 5:38 KJV) But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.), supposedly indicates Jesus approved use of alcohol. This is a strangein terpretation, as Jesus is not even talking about whether one should drink wine or not. Nothing in this passage supports drinking alcohol. It is probable that the wine is non-alcoholic as it is simply not possible for new or old wineskins to withstand the pressure of fermentation! Unfermented grape juice must be put into new wineskins. If new wine was put into old wineskins, remnant material from the pervious wine could start fermentation and develop gas with an enormous pressure that would burst and ruinboth the grape juice and the skin. Unfermented must, after it had been filtered or boiled, is ‘new wine’ which could be safely stored in new wineskins. Luke adds the following tothis story “And no one after drinking old wine desires new; for he says, ‘The old is good ‘”(Luke 5:39). Some people claim Jesus is commending old wine, which is likely fermented. They miss the whole point. In verses 33-39 Jesus is describing how the ‘old’ ways of the Pharisees don’t like the ‘new’ work of Jesus. Jesus says not to put new wine into old wineskins, a new patch on an old garment. He then concludes that one who is used to old wine won’t want the new. The person preferring the old (fermented wine) is the Pharisee who is resisting Jesus new teachings. The Last Supper During Passover time when Jesus instituted the last supper he referred to the wine as the “the fruit of the vine” ( (Mat 26:29 KJV) But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom. (Mark 14:25 KJV) Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. (Luke 22:18 KJV) For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. ). The noun “fruit” (gennema) emphasizes this ‘wine’ is that which is in its natural state, just as it is gathered. Fermented wine is not the natural “fruit of the vine” but the unnatural fruit offermentation and decay. The Jewish historian Josephus, a contemporary of the apostles, explicitly calls the three clusters of grapes freshly squeezed in a cup by Pharaoh’s cupbearer as “the fruit of the vine.” (Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 2, 5,2). The phrase is clearly used to refer to the sweet, unfermented juice of the grape. We should also note that all fermented products (leaven bread etc) were to be disregarded at Passover time. Numerous ancient Christian groups use unfermented grape juice for the last supper.
http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:uSTsTdHBOVkJ:www.livingstonsda.org.au/7livingextra.pdf+what+is+the+meaning+of+23+Drink+no+longer+water,+but+use+a+little+wine+for+thy+stomach%27s+sake&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2In speaking of the ungodliness of the Gentiles, Peter wrote, “For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of Gentiles — when we walked in lewdness, lusts, drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties, and abominable idolatries” (1 Pet 4:3 – NKJV).In listing the works of the flesh in Galatians 5:19-21, the apostle Paul mentions both drunkenness and revelries. But just in case that wasn’t clear enough, he added these words, “and the like” (v 21). This would be considered somewhat of a “catch-all” phrase for any evil thing not specified in the previous verses. In 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22, Paul wrote, “Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil” (NKJV). The word translated “good” is from the Greek kalos, meaning “commendable, admirable, excellent in its nature and characteristics, praiseworthy, morally good, noble, affecting the mind agreeably” (Strong’s). None of these traits can be ascribed to the use of alcohol.

The use of alcohol in moderation in social or private settings has many defenders, but no defense. Remember Paul’s admonition to Timothy, “Be not a partaker in other men’s sins, keep thy self pure” (1 Tim 5:22).  http://www.housetohouse.com/hth/biblequestions/archive/question0029.htm

(1 Cor 11:28 KJV)  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. (Prov 3:33 KJV)  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.Jesus himself had said that professing to be a Christian is not enough, and it applies now to a Prime Minister as well, one rather can  tell what a person is really like by what he does,  a True Christian is one who evidently is controlled by the Spirit of God and not by  self, sin, a real Christian is one where thus anyone can clearly see by the evidence of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, including even self control.Christians are always to remain SOBER too. 1 Thessalonians 5:8 (King James Version) 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.Sober, obedient and not given to lusts of the flesh. 1 Peter 1:13-14 (King James Version)  13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
 
Ephesians 5:11-21 (King James Version) 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them  12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalmsMatt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart];Gal 5:23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence- abstainer). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].

Matt 7:16 You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?17 Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit. 18 A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].  19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits.
 
1 Tim 3:2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation {but} must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect {and} temperate {and} self-controlled; [he must be] sensible {and} well behaved {and} dignified ( Sober- Abstainer)  and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable {and} qualified teacher,Alcoholics, wine drinkers, smokers, drug users too they all  tend to have evidentially lost their self control..
 
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous rightfully says that only God can next heal, relieve the sin, the illness of addiction. It requires the addictive person to first confess they have sinned and next ask for God’s forgiveness, help. God will help you only if you let him, and you cannot be trying t o live your own life and hope to know God better next as well. Too many a persons also do falsely deny who they really are, hiding behind prestigious or pretentious facade that they are unknown, cannot be discerned, read, known cause they are too complex.. you can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all of the people all of the time..   

People to make money even these days tell all kind of lies … Today many Children are also being falsely led to believe that Gambling, Alcohol and Bad drug use is generally safe. The average 18 year old has seen 100,000 television commercials encouraging him or her to drink. That’s why 80% of high school seniors have tried alcohol, 32% have gotten drunk in the last thirty days, 43% smoke marijuana, and about one third are smoking cigarettes. Most addicts die of their addiction and they take their family members down with them. The first step in any help program recovery is to get honest with yourself. Get honest even as to what the other person is really like.. Do not let them take you down the drain with them next too..We all must take any personal addiction seriously because 25% of North Americans die as a result of substance abuse. The average alcoholic dies twenty-six years earlier than he or she would otherwise. Drug users, alcoholics, cheaters, abusers, adulterers affect negatively continually too the lives of at least six others. If you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s  bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that  drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men. 

Not one cent of taxpayer’s money should be ever used in the governments, civil  and public servants, expense accounts  to buy alcohol, wine  or beer.

I had read on many lying Sites that Barrack Obama does not drink alcohol and  that is not true.. Is he rather an alcolholic too now?http://www.sofakingdrunk.com/2008/05/09/obama-and-clinton-drinking-alcohol-obama-drunk-clinton-drunk/
  
In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.

Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Why are alcoholics always in denial? and why do they often lie,  cheat, steal also now? Because if they do admit the truth they are alcoholics, sinners too  they do have now to repent of the sin of disobeying God’s word about being drunk too.. so they take the ostrich denial approach instead too often. Alcoholism still is a sin of a deliberate, personal choice, and to be set free you have to admit your sin, confess it, renounce it, ask God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ as well.. It is not only wrong for the average person it is also especially wrong for leaders in the government, politicians. It is amazing how one can quickly spot an alcoholic, while they cannot still see their sin, and how quick they are to oppose themselves being exposed now too..

Obama amongst some others reiterated his support for civil unions for homosexuals. No surprise there. Some Christians do indeed allow for the conferring of some legal rights, short of marital status, on gays as a simple matter of fairness. We cannot legislate or enforce morality. Nevertheless all true Christians consider this a sinful act But I suspect his rationale raised some hackles. “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans”. Barrack Obama. Since when did Romans 1 become obscure? I thought pitting the words of Jesus against those of Paul was a tactic of Red Letter Christians, not something a serious candidate for the Oval Office would engage in.There is no refererence to gay civil unions in the Sermon on the Mount (unless you stretch the Golden Rule beyond all recognition). Perhaps Obama mixed up his Bible references Is Barack Obama a Red Letter Christian? ”
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/03/is_barack_obama.html

 

 

Is Barrack Obama What another type of Christian also now ? Are there now really so many different types? My next door neighbor tells me he is a Christian, and he says is a member of the church of Jesus Christ, the LATTER DAY SAINTS, Mormons, and he says now today he reads the Bible and prays daily too. But when I started to ask him about what the Apostle had said in the Bible now about getting drunk, he next said he did not believe in any of the the 12 apostles writings, but yes, he believes that these writings they are in the books that supposedly composing the Common Bible, but he does not believe they are really part of the valid Bible. So when I next had further asked him what he now had defined as being the true Bible, he said the Bible according to Him now was solely the spoken word of Jesus. He is another one of those red lettered Christians.. So I asked him if he believed solely in the 4 Gospels, the Bible books written now anyway by some of the 12 Apostles of Jesus anyway, even Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.. and so if he really is now believing in the 4 Gospel, the still Apostolic writings so what was the problem in him now even believing that the Book of Revelation in the Standard Bible now was aalso a part of the Bible? After all it was written by the same Apostle John who now had written the book of John, and the epistles of John now too.. Now he next replied and had said he did not believe in the book of Revelation as being a part of the Bible. Wow! This is getting all so confusing, needlessly complicated too , listening to him firstly. Really now what does he believe in cause I really cannot figure out how he picks and chooses to believe, it seems he believes in the ten commandments, but he does not even know what they are still too, he really believes in the Gospel solely according to him and not the Gospel according to Jesus and the Apostles.. and he admits has these complex rules for Bible interpretations as to what is valid and what is not, all made by his church, and he next had said I should go to his church to find out what these rules now are. I replied and said I did not need any more of these clearly false mere man made religion, rules to tell me what part of the Bible I should believe in firstly , for the Holy sprit himself, the spirit of Christ has clearly promised to lead us and to guide us personaly now into all truth, not rather anyone else who admits they do not even believe in the standard Bible now too. The Bible and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever too. I can read for myself and I can believe in it myself without has clearly distorted directions, guidance, rules now too. . I also either take it all as being God’s word’s or none of it. It is as simple as that for a start now too.
 
(Prov 31:6 KJV)  Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. 7  Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
   
 I have had many, many unexpected shocks in my life.. like finding out too often still that many of my pastors were   real crooks, dishonest persons.. and why was that?
 
Too many persons lie, made a pretence of who they are, put on an act, a show.. do wrongfully think they can fool  most of the people and get away with it.. but for how long?
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 
(Mat 10:25 KJV)  It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 26  Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27  What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
 
(2 Cor 4:2 KJV)  But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.
 
(1 Pet 3:4 KJV)  But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
 
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