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NOW WHY OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS IT THAT SOME ARE TRYING SO HARD TO PROVE ETERNAL SECURITY TO OTHERS IF THIS WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS POINT? WHILE ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE US FROM OUR SINS, ETERNAL SECURITY IS STILL A FARCE, A NEW DOCTRINE OF ONLY  THE LAST 200 YEARS INVENTED BY THE BRETHREN DISPENSATIONALIST REV JOHN DARBY AS IT HAS NOT EVEN A PART OF CHRISTIANITY THE 1800 YEARS BEFORE THAT NOW TOO

NEVER MIND YOUR MERE HUMAN ARGUMENTS SHOW HOW MUCH YOU REALLY KNOW THE BIBLE.. QUOTE YOUR APPLICABLE  VERSES THEN.. AS ETERNAL SECURITY IS A BIG DEMONIC LIE.. IF YOU BELIEVE IN IT THE DEVIL HAS YOU POSSESSED NOW AND NOT GOD.THE SAME PERSONS WHO BELIEVE THAT ONE IS ETERNALLY SECURED TEND TO ALSO FALSELY BELIEVE THAT NO CHRISTIAN CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED.. WHAT A MOUTHFUL. YOU CAN SEE WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THEY CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED..

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. These abusive, immoral rather Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only, are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too.. The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted and not accepted by main stream Christianity too. The dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” -Romans 16:17-18 KJV “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” -Jude 1:3-4 The Brethren oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit. “But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8. The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is still also unacceptable Dispensationalism is a system of theology that was first popularized by John Nelson Darby, 19th century British evangelist and forerunner of modern Christian fundamentalism. The false Scofield Reference Bible, written by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, popularized dispensationalism in the United States. The world’s Jews must return to Israel for a dispensational interpretation of prophecy to be fulfilled.

In the Bible, there are several passages in which God promises us the gift of eternal life, and the Bible also makes it perfectly clear that we can never earn that gift. However, a problem develops when people start to think that they don’t need to show any responsibilities towards God’s gift of salvation. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand” (Ezekiel 3:19-20).

Clearly everyone who’s under God’s grace needs to accept that dreaded word, “responsibility.”

• “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?” (Matthew 7:21-22).

•”Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils” (1 Timothy 4:1).

•”And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book (Exodus 32:33).

•”He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels” (Revelation 3:5).

•”For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame” (Hebrews 6:4-6).

•”And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46).

I failed to spot any exemptions allowing Christians to ignore God’s warnings:

•”Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him” (1 John 3:15).

•”This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away” (2 Tim 3:1-5).

•”But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8).

•”For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (2 Peter 2:20-22).

•”But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat” (1 Corinthians 5:11).

In America, about 84 percent of its citizens claim to be “Christians,” and a reported 57 percent belong to a church. When asked if they think they’ll be going to heaven, more than 90 percent of Americans believe that heaven will be their final destination.

Despite this people’s overwhelming optimism, Jesus, in Matthew 7:13-14, said that few would be saved. I’ve been asking people what they believe all my life, and I’ve found a very large portion of society holds to some form of the once-saved-always-saved doctrine.

The also bizarre argument that the eternal security crowd propagates is the idea that once you decide to become a Christian, you can never change your mind. Once you’re in, there’s no escape. From what Bible did this cultic teaching come? Certainly not the one I’m using.

The Apostle Peter says in 2 Peter 2:21 that it would “had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” Not only did Peter say that believers can turn away, but he said it would be better for them to not have become aware of something that would end up haunting them throughout all eternity.

One excuse I hear a lot in an attempt to explain how someone can seem to fall away is the statement that “these people never really believed in the first place.” I have known people who were saved miraculously, yet they fell away. If their salvation wasn’t legitimate, then I’d have to doubt honesty of every of all confessions. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians not only fall away, they admit to doing so cause Jesus did not give them all their wants, desires, needs next too.

all who believe on Eternal Security agree that salvation is secure for eternity because they truly repented and saved to become a believer sometime in the past even though they act like immoral pigs now too.. Eternal security is not a doctrine on it’s own. It has a supporting doctrine called “Faith Only” doctrine which teaches no works are required. This is primarily because, many of these clearly still Bible ignorant persons they do not properly discern the faith / works mentioned by Paul’s letters and in the book of James. Rom 4:2-5) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Jas 2:21-24) Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Eternal security supporters say, A person can be saved (present tense) through faith, not of works, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8, 9).

We need to look into the text carefully and with context. They ignore overlook the next verse esp., verse 10 which says “in Christ”.

(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

But if someone rejects Christ anytime along the way, he will also not receive eternal life.

(Rom 6:22-23) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Eternal security supporters say, True faithful converts will never reject Christ. If they reject, they were never truly saved.

Let us see what the scripture say.

(1Tim 4:1) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

(Heb 10:38-39) Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

How can someone depart from faith if they had not already in faith? Drawing back from what? Scripture says yes, we can walk away.

 (Matthew 7:19) “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Passages demonstrating that salvation is conditional upon continued faith:

You were once alienated from God – your very thoughts were hostile towards Him and your deeds were evil. Yet God has now made peace with you through the death of Christ in His physical body so that you may stand before Him as holy, without blemish and free from accusation – [this you will do] if you remain solidly grounded and firmly fixed in the faith, and un-moved from your hope in the gospel . . . Colossians 1:21-23

Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with Him, we will also live with Him; if we persevere, we will also reign with Him. If we disown Him, He will also disown us; If we are faithless, He will remain faithful, for He cannot disown Himself. 2nd Timothy 2:11-13

It is through this gospel that you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you – otherwise you have believed in vain. 1st Corinthians 15:2

We are of [Christ’s] household, if we hold fast to our courage and confidence in this hope. Hebrews 3:6

For we have all become partners of Christ, if we hold fast to our original conviction firmly to the end. Hebrews 3:14

2. Passages that warn us to protect our faith:

Examine yourselves to see whether you still stand steady in the faith. Put your qualifications [as Christians] to the test. Or didn’t you know this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is at home in you – if He’s not, then you are already disqualified. 2nd Corinthians 13:5

These things all happened [to the Exodus generation] by way of an example so that we might not lust after what is evil as they did. Don’t practice idolatry, as some of them did (as the scripture says “the people sat down to eat and got up to frolic”). Don’t fornicate, as some of them did, and 23,000 of them fell dead in a single day. And let’s not put the Lord to the test, as some of them did, and were killed by snakes. And don’t complain, as some of them did, and were killed by the destroying angel. All these things happened to them to give us an example, and have been written in scripture to warn us as we confront history’s final epoch. So let whoever thinks he’s standing firm be careful not to fall! 1st Corinthians 10:12

Watch out for yourselves, so you don’t lose what you’ve worked so hard for, but receive a full reward instead. No one who goes wandering off – that is, does not keep to the teachings about Jesus Christ – has a share in God. 2nd John 8-9

I am the vine, you are the branches. If a man remains in Me and I in Him, he will bear much fruit; apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. John 15:5-6

3. Passages teaching that sinful behavior is antithetical to faith:

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies – and whatever is similar to all these things. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Galatians 5:19-21

Don’t you know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor practitioners of homosexuality nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1st Corinthians 6:9-10

But among you there must not even be a hint of sexual immorality, or any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse jesting – things that have no place [among you]. Thanksgiving [is what ought to be heard coming from you] instead. For of this you can be sure: no immoral, impure, or greedy person – such a man is an idolater – has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Don’t let anyone deceive you about this with empty words, for it is because of just such things that God’s wrath comes upon those who refuse to obey and believe. So don’t enter into partnership with them. Ephesians 5:3-7

Those who want to get rich fall into temptations, traps, and many senseless and harmful lusts – the kind which swamp men[‘s hearts] to their destruction and damnation. 1st Timothy 6:9

Take it or leave but that is what the Bible still says..

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB I HAVE BEEN A CHRISTIAN NOW FOR 50 YEARS AND A CHRISTIAN PASTOR FOR 30 YEARS AND FOR DECADES NOW TOO I HAVE MANY FACEBOOK AND INTERNET SITES DEALING WITH GOD, JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO I AM NOT NEW TO THE VARIOUS GAMES PEOPLE PLAY EVEN ON THE NET. and their lies..

I also do think the most flagrant problem with the “once-saved-always-save” doctrine is the notion that people can confess to be a Christians, and yet live a life so depraved that the devil himself would refuse to associate with them. Unfortunately, because of the new false doctrines such as eternal security, hell has had to enlarge itself to make room for the millions of lost souls who have been deceived into going there (Isaiah 5:14). “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him” (James 1:12). these people like Reggie seem to be able to endure anything but siining it seems…. by falsely slandering others who do not go laong with them even. But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22

Eternal LIFE brought through Jesus Christ is a gift. Even though this gift is free, it MUST be conditionally accepted.. KEEPING YOUR ETERNAL LIFE NEXT IS CONDITIONAL AS WELL AND IT CAN ALSO NEXT BE REJECTED, AS YOU STILL HAVE YOUR OWN FREE WILL SOMETHING THE LIARS FALSELY DO NOT TELL YOU AND WHY? THEY HAVE OTHER AGENDAS FOR YOU LIKELY TOO..YOUR NAME NEXT CAN STILL BE BLOTTED FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE IF YOU SIN CONDITIONALLY WITHOUT REPENTANCE.. AND THERE IS MUCH MORE TO KNOW TOO… Now Judas was a Christian,, follower of Jesus who became undeniably Demon possessed and next went to hell. you always have a free will and you chose what spirit you do still have next too. More correctly, the word translated “possession” should simply be rendered “demonized,” that is, under the influence of a demonThe Apostle Judas typifies for me what a BAD CHRISTIAN is really like.. Judas is infamously known for his kiss and betrayal of Jesus to the hands of the chief Sanhedrin priests in exchange for a payment of thirty silver coins andh His place among the Twelve Apostles was later filled by Matthias.; yet woe is upon him, and he would have been better unborn (Matthew 26:23–25). from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. ( Acts 1:25) Most Christians still consider Judas a traitor. Indeed the term Judas has entered many languages as a synonym for betrayer. so Judas does not appear in an of the Epistles of Paul, as He who endures to the end shall be saved..

Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Yes even the initially Holy Spirit filled Christian can falsely still oppose the Holy Spirit next. A GOOD INDICATION TO ME IS HOW ANY PERSON OR GROUPS STANDS NOW ITH JESUS CHRIST IS IN THEIR VIEW OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.. DO THEY SEE HIM AS GOD, DO THEY ALSO ADMIT, TALK ABOUT HIS GIFTS MINISTRY, PERSONALITY AS WELL NOW THAT IS SO TRUE WHEN THEY ARE WRONG IN SUCH A VITAL AREA THEY ARE NEXT WRONG IN SO MANY CAUSE THEY ARE STILL BEING LED BY THE SPIRIT OF DEMONS AND NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT Imagine that the Bible says a Christian can still have also an unclean spirit.. wow.. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. In Acts chapter 5, Ananias and Sapphira, members of the early church, lied to the apostle Peter. They had sold some possessions to give to the church, and then had second thoughts and conspired to keep back a portion for themselves. When Peter asked them what amount they had received for the sale, Ananias and Sapphira lied. What was the source of that lie? The apostle Peter said, “Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit” (verse 3). In judgment, God struck them dead. If we accept the assumption that Ananias and Sapphira experienced the new birth in Christ, yet how else can we explain away the fact that their hearts were filled by Satan to such an extent that they were capable of committing a sin worthy of such abrupt and severe divine judgment? Yeah right, human reason and human logic can easily say that salvation is a free gift, the Holy Spirit is also a separate free gift that comes after salvation. and so does even demonic possession for many persons now too… it is why why Apostle Paul Command you to be filled with the Holy Spirit even… If Christians cannot be possessed now how come this is one of my popular posting too..

 

By the way I cast out 2 demons out of two Christian people in my church after they had repented. .. one was the pastor’s daughter who committed fornication, and the other one HAD made a bind with Satan ..Like I said let the Holy Spirit teach you here not false men.. there is nothing good in men.

Before I first became involved in exorcisms, I too had assumed that a Christian was immune from the torment of demons. I based that assumption on the influence of other supposedly Christian leaders who convinced me of this. “The Holy Spirit and an evil spirit can’t dwell in the same vessel.” “Light and darkness cannot co-exist.” The Holy Spirit showed me otherwise..

Anyone searching the Word of God more diligently about the matter of demons influencing Christians, can see that the issue wasn’t as conclusive as most people had thought.

The pastors and Bible teachers who had repeatedly reinforced the “Christians can’t have a demon” outlook had very little practical experience with the phenomenon. Clearly even the lack of experiential testimony about such a crucial area of spiritual deliverance was a glaring weakness.. People who are not even filled, baptized with the Holy Spirit falsely want to teach someone who is? absurd!

Man is a tripartite being (1 Thessalonians 5:23), and there are aspects of the human body, soul, mind that Satan can always occupy. While he is prohibited from touching the spirit of God’s saints, nothing prevents him from possessing, tormenting the body and soul-if the disobedient conduct of a Christian allows him to do so. 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

If you continue to sin the last verse does not apply. Casting a demon out of a believer is practiced in many , many churches today as well, I have been to a few of them too.

In Ephesians 4:23 Christians are admonished to “be renewed in the spirit of your mind.” If even the mind of the Christian needs renewal, then it stands to reason that when our minds are not renewed, they may be, to some degree, under the control of the ungodly forces.2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

Active and not passive resistance towards the devil is always required. “Present your bodies a living sacrifice,” we read in Romans 12:1. This means our bodies may not be completely sacrificed to God, and could therefore be CONTROLLED by Satan. James 4: 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Demon possession includes a demon having direct/complete control over the thoughts and/or actions of a person possessed. What you do not believe a dog can return to his vomit?

2 Peter 2: 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Matt 12: 43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Demonic “possession” means a demon can manifest through the host’s faculties-that is, see with the eyes, speak through the vocal cords, and even subject the person to a trance state of mental oblivion. Deliverance comes when the demon inside is cast outside.

What about those instances in which a demon manifests in a Christian? In most cases the demon likley had entered before the believer’s conversion to Christianity some say, and the evil spirit continued to control some part of the person’s life because the specific occult sin was never renounced. The demon claims squatter’s rights.

 

How Does Possession Come About? Uncontrolled anger, Unforgiveness, Fear, Unbelief, sexual immorality, impaired, drunkeness, occult involvement, cursing others, witchcraft , etc.

“If you’re a Christian and you don’t think you can have a demon – You have a demon,”

Demon possessed by a tormentor.. God’s spirit in King Saul was replaced by an evil spirit 1 Samuel 16:14 14But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15And Saul’s servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles you. 16Let our lord now command your servants, which are before you, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is on you, that he shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. … .Saul was afflicted with “an evil spirit” as a punishment for his insistent defiance of God’s will. He had committed flagrant violation of God’s commands on two previous occasions (1 Samuel 13:13-14; 15:11,19).

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him..

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? The devil by nature is a murderer (John 8:44). His rebellion against God changed his character and has made him a force that naturally kills and destroys all that comes under his power.

So, what about the sending of evil spirits by the Lord? This may be more common in scripture than you think. In Psalm 78:49, God judged Israel “by sending evil angels among them.” In Judges 9:23, “God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem.” In 1Kings 22:22, God sent a “lying spirit” in the mouth of the false prophets to send Ahab to his death. In the passage in question (1Samuel 16:14-15), God removed His Spirit from the disobedient Saul. This opened the door for an evil spirit to come and torment Saul. Though in this passage, it is only the servants of Saul that said the evil spirit was from the Lord, in other passages (1Samuel 18:10; 19:9), the text states that the evil spirit came from the Lord. When God removes His protective hand,the Lord allowed or permitted the distressing spirit to come upon Saul, he often turns the person over to Satan for destruction or to an evil spirit for torment. The devil and the evil spirits do the work, but God has allowed them to do what come natural to them for His own purpose.He uses evil to chastise evil” I know this concept it is thoroughly established in scripture. God does not commit wickedness, but He uses the wicked for His purpose. In the end, God will have His glory. How much better it is for us to submit to Him and obey Him willingly.

 

if Christ is the olive tree than you do not need to renews your mind because Christ will do it for you, just like the olive tree renews it branch. therefore you cannot BE connected to Christ and not produce good fruits. HOW REALLY ABSURD.. YOU MEAN YOU ARE A ROBOT NOW, YOU DO NOT HAVE A FREE WILL, YOU CANNOT SIN? EVEN EVANGELICAL PASTORS SIN ALL THE TIME, COMMIT ADULTERY, STEAL AND WHAT YOU DENY THEY DO SIN EVEN HERE.. HOW REALLY ABSURD..

 

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

 

 1 Kings 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

 

2 Chronicles 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

 

Proverbs 19:2 Also, that the soul be without knowledge, it is not good; and he that hasteth with his feet sinneth.

 

Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

 

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

 

Ezekiel 33:12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

 

How Does Possession Come About? Uncontrolled anger, Unforgiveness, Fear, Unbelief, sexual immorality, impaired, drunkeness, occult involvement, cursing others, witchcraft , etc.

“If you’re a Christian and you don’t think you can have a demon – You have a demon,”

Demon possessed by a tormentor.. God’s spirit in King Saul was replaced by an evil spirit 1 Samuel 16:14 14But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15And Saul’s servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles you. 16Let our lord now command your servants, which are before you, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is on you, that he shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. … .Saul was afflicted with “an evil spirit” as a punishment for his insistent defiance of God’s will. He had committed flagrant violation of God’s commands on two previous occasions (1 Samuel 13:13-14; 15:11,19).

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him..

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? The devil by nature is a murderer (John 8:44). His rebellion against God changed his character and has made him a force that naturally kills and destroys all that comes under his power.

So, what about the sending of evil spirits by the Lord? This may be more common in scripture than you think. In Psalm 78:49, God judged Israel “by sending evil angels among them.” In Judges 9:23, “God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem.” In 1Kings 22:22, God sent a “lying spirit” in the mouth of the false prophets to send Ahab to his death. In the passage in question (1Samuel 16:14-15), God removed His Spirit from the disobedient Saul. This opened the door for an evil spirit to come and torment Saul. Though in this passage, it is only the servants of Saul that said the evil spirit was from the Lord, in other passages (1Samuel 18:10; 19:9), the text states that the evil spirit came from the Lord. When God removes His protective hand,the Lord allowed or permitted the distressing spirit to come upon Saul, he often turns the person over to Satan for destruction or to an evil spirit for torment. The devil and the evil spirits do the work, but God has allowed them to do what come natural to them for His own purpose.He uses evil to chastise evil” I know this concept it is thoroughly established in scripture. God does not commit wickedness, but He uses the wicked for His purpose. In the end, God will have His glory. How much better it is for us to submit to Him and obey Him willingly.

 

And there is no place in the Bible that conclusively says Christians can’t be possessed. But, on the contrary, there are passages that do indicate that demon possession of believers CAN occur when they backslide from God. 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. nNow we know Satan and devils do exist, we know they are unembodied spirits that work in the spiritual realm, they desire to and are able to indwell humans (also animals) and influence their bodies and minds for evil, they vary in power and authority, but all are more powerful than man, and they can be controlled or cast out by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ if you confess your sins and turn your life to Jesus, all of it..Demons have been here since the beginning of human history. The same demons that infiltrated the antediluvian civilization in the days of Noah are alive and active today. They have infiltrated every area of life from childhood to adulthood, from play to marriage, from sports to work.

In 1 Corinthians 6 and 7, Paul reprimanded the Church, the Christian strongly for their marital infidelity. 1 cor 6:1 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

 

Ephesians 4:32  NIV  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you AND ironically IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT THAT YOUR SINS ARE NOR FORGIVEN AUTOMATICALLY AS EVEN KING DAVID HAD  FOUND OUT, RATHER YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY BRING YOUR SINS TO GOD, CONFESS THEM AND ASK FOR THEIR FORGIVENESS..

 

Romans 6: 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

1 Corinthians 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

2 Cor 10:5 — “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;”

You can’t drink the Lord’s cup [of communion-fellowship] and the cup of demons. You can’t share in the Lord’s [communion-fellowship] table and the table of demons. 1st Corinthians 10:21

Like i had said Possession is only one of the common type of demonic attack and the Possession of even professing Christians is not as rare as some imagine, mind you they will likely too quickly say I am the one possessed and/or crazy not themselves ehh Funny… Christians can receive deliverance from the demon. The last decade has seen a major shift by Evangelicals away from a belief that Christians could not be demonized or demon possessed to a dominate view that a child of God can be demon possessed and thus may need periodic deliverance.

Is demon possession rare? Not according to scripture! Mark 1:34, “…cast out many devils…” Luke 4:41, “…devils also came out of many…” Acts 8:7, “For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them…” Mark 6:13, “…they cast out many devils…” Matthew 8:16, “…they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils…”

Jesus sent fourth 70 disciples to preach the gospel and cast out demons, and they returned full of joy as they could see that this was a very real and important ministry. Now for Jesus to send out 70 men and they come back with praise reports of deliverances… that tells us that even though they were on foot, there were plenty of people in their area that needed deliverance! Luke 10:17, “And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.”

The Bible speaks of different ranks of demons (Eph 6:12), and Jesus taught His disciples that some demons were so strong that they required a level of faith to cast them out that was only obtainable through prayer and fasting (Mark 9:29).

Aren’t all demons the same? Absolutely not; they all have their own personalities, just like people do. There are different demons that serve different functions, such as some people are doctors while others are lawyers, etc. Some demons cause loss of hearing and loss of eyesight (Mark 9:25), while others cause infirmities, and others cause fear and depression (1 Samuel 16:14, “Now the Spirit of the LORD had left Saul, and the LORD sent a tormenting spirit that filled him with depression and fear.” -NLT).

Do demons have names? Yes they do, just like God’s holy angels have names (Luke 1:19, Judges 1:9). Often, the name of a demon will give you a clue as to what it does, the function it preforms, or the role it plays. Some of the demons in the Bible are known as deaf, dumb, infirmity, etc. (Mark 9:25, Luke 13:11).

Can demons return to the person whom they left? Yes Jesus warns the ‘wicked generation’ (sinners) that the demon can return with 7 even worse demons and if you go back and re-open the door(s) that let the demon in, you are re-welcoming him back in.

It is interesting that some people falsely do oppose the deliverance Ministry for any Christians and they have chosen to sit in the seat of God to judge others but not themselves .

 

1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.;

Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person..

(2 Cor 2:11 KJV) Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.; “

Now no one still takes the place of God in my life.. and they never will..

Deliverance and Demon Possession is not a popular topic especially amongst those who are clearly possessed through pride or whatever..

Yes even Christians can receive deliverance from the demon. The last decade has seen a major shift by Evangelicals away from a belief that Christians could not be demonized or demon possessed to a dominate view that a child of God can be demon possessed and thus may need periodic deliverance.

Let God Judge them? I used to think like you.. But God already did and many times has asked me personally to go to the pastors and to ask them to repent of special sins and about 10 percent do, the rest go on with their evil ways and next eventually even found in church pastors were removed, lost their church..it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands into the living God. ..

Biblical repentance is admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God, and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. Bow God has commanded all men everywhere to repent.. True repentance is confession, contrition, change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also a personal, ongoing event. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.; While submission of one to another, or sharing , is voluntarily, unenforceable, and is a direct commandment of God there are many professing Christians, other Persons who think they now also are good, godly persons yet they still are actuality demon possessed, as evident by their self centeredness, false self pride, their lack of forgiveness towards others now too.. and they do exhibit the demonic controlling spirit even under the false guise of privacy, Also now you can also be sure there is a great abundances of other sins, wrong doings in their life, cause once they had opened the door to the devil he next took the whole house.. And call it what you may it is still a power hungry, controlling, oppressing evil spirit in them.

I would rather see a sermon preached over just hearing one preached.. I have now cast out of demons from Christians, even a Pastor’s daughter..

Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits

Christians can inherit curses from parents; Christians need deliverance from certain kinds of sins in addition to the forgiveness received at salvation; Christians need to speak or do things to protect themselves and their loved ones from the demonic; Christians can boss Satan around by rebuking, binding, taking authority over him, or running him out of town, usually by sundown, all in the name of Jesus; demons occupy territories because of specific sins of those people which supposedly have given a basis for the demonic stronghold, instead of by permission of the sovereign will of God. Matthew 18:18: “Truly I am telling you, whatever you may bind upon the earth shall be that which has already been bound in heaven; and whatever you may loosed upon the earth shall be that which has already been loosed in heaven” (literal translation).

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).

It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit. They are not automatic.. sin is automatic still even in many in many people’s lives.. and you need the power of the holy Spirit to overcome it..

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ephesians 5″:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. — 1 John 4:1

You really need to relook at the definition of what a Christians really is There is major ,major misunderstanding even in the church as to what it really means to be a saved Christian. We need to look at what the Bible itself says here firstly too…

To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One, Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”.

Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

(1 Chronicles 16:22-24 NKJV) Saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” {23} Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. {24} Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”

Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…

and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths. and they falsely try to say something typical like this now.. the big lie“If you check every single Biblical reference to the Anointing you should notice that ” There is not ONE SINGLE reference to the anointing being a supernatural power given to human by which they are able to perform miracles… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to anyone being able to transmit the anointing by any means, including the laying on of hands… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to getting, keeping, increasing, or losing the anointing.”

Mind you they these same liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with Bathsheba..

It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”

Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even many preachers. As many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God. They do not have God’s understanding of the subject cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His

Would you believe it that I had spent half of my life in the Baptist Church till the holy Spirit reveled to me what really dummies they were spiritually and how they were really both Holy Spirit and new testament ignorant still too The heart knows its own bitterness ( Proverbs 14:10)

How do you now deal with demon possessed Christian persons? ignore them send them top a physiatrist.. unlike Jesus and the Apostles? I myself rightfully firstly ask them to repent of the specific sin that got them possessed.. Narcissm included.. Narcissism is used to describe a person characterized by harshness, egotism, vanity, pride, or selfishness.

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a serious personal personality disorder in which the individual is excessively preoccupied with issues of personal needs, wants, desires, adequacy, power, prestige and even vanity..

Persons diagnosed with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder are characterized by unwarranted, false feelings of self-importance. They are aggressors who have an abnormal sense of entitlement and demonstrate grandiosity in their beliefs and behavior. They have a over inflated strong need for admiration of others, but meanwhile lack feelings of love, care, concerns empathy for others. Like the case of a father who buys a nice new car for himself while his own son suffers in poverty. These negative qualities are usually defenses against a deep feeling of inferiority and of being in the past rejected, unloved. Example- Rebuked in a marriage proposal.

The concept of Narcissus, excessive selfishness has been recognized negative through the Bible throughout history. Narcissism is usually considered a major problem in a person or group’s relationships with self and others.

These people who are pathologically narcissistic, are very much controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ views, unaware of others’ needs as well., obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges, problems in sustaining, satisfying relationships. lack of love to others, no emotional attachments, difficulty with empathy, clear problems distinguishing the self from others, manifest a hypersensitivity to any insults real or imagined insults, criticism and manifests often rage and objects to narcissistic injury, napoleon complex, use contempt to minimize the other person, can resort to physical abuse of others quite easily, inability to process shame in healthy ways.; gentleness only to those who admire and affirm them , detesting those who do not admire them , use other people without considering the cost of doing so, imposters, hypocrites, pretending to be more important even to all others over what they really are, self promoter, mostly, takes advantage of others to reach own imposed goals, always expects to be recognized as superior and special, without any real even superior accomplishments, falsely expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement of their goodness from others; arrogant in attitudes and behavior, expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic, often lying, ragging and exaggerate of their achievements, values, effects., claiming to be a genius, “expert” at all things, clearly cold, unloving, fruitless, inability to view the world from the perspective of other people, clear denial of any wrong doings, guilt, remorse and evident no gratitude.

Narcissists hold unreasonable and false expectations of particularly favorable treatment form all others and the related automatic compliance because they consider falsely do themselves special above all others. Failure to comply to praising them is considered a personal attack on them, their superiority, and the unacceptable perpetrator is immediately considered an “enemy” or “crazy” person, censured, not to associate with anymore. Any Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic even violent rage. All others are always to be placed in a subservient position. All Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all.

Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and their false illusion known , self projection to dump shame falsely unto onto others.

A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.

The narcissist who is feeling deflated does often re-inflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else. In other words a Slave driver, a control freak and Bully as well.

It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.;

says Salvation is a gift.. AND SO it is now still a false what a justification for all the sins that even too many evangelical pastors also and undeniably can still do after they had been already saved.. and how really really absurd, ridiculous response Reggie that is still .. really Reggie I love all the relevant the Holy Spirit led Bible verses you had posted to me in reply.. what there are none? why was that? only the personal attacks, insults…Oh yes insults upon insults.. it seems I am talking to a child and not a mature adult still.. and is it cause you really are Bible ignorant like so many others so you cannot give a biblical evidence for your faith as Apostle Paul said we should? ..   really Repentance is also a gift and clearly many fundamental Christians still they do not seem to have it.. so their sons now are unforgiven and thus they do return to hell with them. So   tell me to whom these verses were written? to all non saved Baptists only ehh..

 1 John 1: 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Eternal security: the belief that once a person accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior, he can never be lost. Eternal security sounds great until you realize that this doctrine allows people to commit every sin under the sun without suffering any consequences for their complete lack of holy living. Why most people lack any concern for their eternal salvation is the most baffling question I can ponder. The Bible says that few people will choose to make heaven their eternal home. (Mat 7:13-14) The Bible and man are in sharp conflict with each other because most folks expect to be bound for heaven when they leave this world. It’s no accident that most people are deceived about their eternal destiny. Satan, who is described as the enemy of mankind, has made the damnation of souls his full-time job. Of course, everyone who’s been hoodwinked by the devil into believing a lie only has himself or herself to blame for the poor judgment. It is the false advocates of eternal security that are often called, ignorant, immature carnal Christians by many In Romans 6:5-6 we are told that in order for us to be a part of His resurrection we must also be a part of His death. Verse 6 is very clear that it is the body of sin that is to be destroyed. When we are born again we are a new creation in Christ Jesus and no longer a slave to our carnal desires. We are in fact commanded to turn away from sin. Remember that whoever we serve is our master. If we serve God then we are dead to sin. If we serve sin then we are dead to God. We cannot serve two masters. It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock. As a result many of them falsely resort to a dictatorial, abusive or hierarchy church structure and they demand falsely AND force submission, and of course they even abuse their flock… they do now even cheat, lie, steal, slander, wrongfully counsel divorce.. . many people are surprised at this and do not know what to do.. Recognize, admit the sad truth and shout their sins from the housetops. They are not real, loving shepherds called by God..

One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal by God, so they too are ignorant, they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play. Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.

AND   DO SEE ALSO
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html ..

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/deceived-by-the-imposters-cults-sects-wolves-in-sheep-clothing/ .

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Prayer for a start is not merely cursing someone immediately because they did something we do not agree with..

James 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
James 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Many people have a false understanding of what prayer is.. to some persons prayer is actually cursing someone now too.. when I truthfully do tell some persons some thing they do not want to hear, or they do not agree with next I often have heard some people actually boast that they would humbly pray now and for , or against me and God would hear their prayer.. Boy are they are wrong, God does not hear such prayer, only the devil does, and we can resist the devil , make null what he does upon us.. Legitimate prayer is giving God permission to deal with a matter but still we all do need to always both pray in the will of God and with faith, but also to pray now without unconfessed sin for God to answer the prayer. .. if you are praying in faith, faith comes from knowing the world of God and thus knowing what you are allowed to pray..

when I pray I check with God as to what I am allowed to pray as per –
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Mat 6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mat 6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
Mat 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.

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Why was Jesus now also so angry with the Pharisees

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Of all the words of Jesus recorded in the Bible, about twenty-five percent of his teaching was devoted to prophecy concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, the scattering of the Jewish people worldwide, and the end of the world. Instead of listening to the lies of mere men and demons do read Jesus’ words in their entirety, in the Bible itself firstly. Not one Bible Prophecies Endorses Israel’s present Behavior, land conquests. The nation of Israel was blessed when it obeyed God’s instructions, and it was next cursed when it disobeyed. The context of Jesus’ Olivet Discourse was about the pending desolation of Jerusalem and the Jews, and NOT about even the Gentile end times.   https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/desolate/

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Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

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Proverbs 28:23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.

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In reality firstly Jesus had said He was God alone, Mark 14:60-65 The Pharisees were a group of religious hypocrites that were definitely not only misguided, lost, but still were was very serious about demanding others to keep God’s law, keeping the no longer applicable law of Moses over the laws of Jesus Christ. They were trying to make others slaves, even to their own false demands When Jesus cleared the temple of the moneychangers and animal-sellers, He showed great emotion and anger (Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; John 2:13-22). Jesus’ emotion was described as “zeal” for God’s house (John 2:17). His anger was pure and completely justified because at its root was concern for God’s holiness and worship. Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, “He looked around at them in anger, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts” (Mark 3:5). In reality, these bad religious leaders were, are destroying, killing others even and keeping many people from their personal salvation. “The Pharisee was standing, praying these things to himself: God, I thank You that I am not as the rest of men, rapacious, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice on the sabbath; I tithe all things, as many as I get” (Luke 18:11-12). “For I testify to them that they have a zeal to God, but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit to the righteousness of God.” Romans 10:2-3 “Watch and take heed from the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s.” Matthew 16:6 “I say to you, This one went down to his house having been justified, rather than that one. For every one exalting himself will be humbled. And the one humbling himself will be exalted” (Luke 18:14) This is the personal prayer the Pharisees would not pray and mean it as well. “Heavenly Father, I want to know You as the sole, true and living God. I ask you by the finished work of Jesus Christ to forgive me and cleanse me from all, everything I’ve done wrong. Now please do Change my heart, and give me a Holy Sprit empowered, filled new life. Fill me with the power of Your Holy Spirit. I now forever turn from all of the false gods and submit my life to your Son Jesus Christ as my only Savior and Lord.Thank You, Lord Jesus, for paying the penalty for my sins and giving me a relationship of friendship with God as my Heavenly Father The Pharisees were blind spiritually , and in fact blind guides as He Jesus was what called them. The still ignornant, self centered already dead persons, the Pharisee who always tried to be the center of attention, loved being praised by others, they the Pharisees believed they were now, smart, enlightended totally righteous, because of their own established doctrines, were fully qualified, empowered to dominate, teach others, they still saw no need for any changes in their lives now, for any or all changes needed to be done in other people’s lives and thus also falsely believed that could not next even any lose their own salvation based on their own false established, superior beliefs. Their gospel was a much too simplified one as well being “Lord, I already do believe in you and therefor you next do owe me my salvation.” Yes even today the Modern day Pharisees tend to be the self-righteous holier-than-thous persons, they often do exist now just like they did then at the time of Jesus. There is no real love of God or for God, or love for any others with them, there is just their false continual hatred of all other’s personal beliefs and their own visible large self pride. The Pharisees falsely still worked hard at it praising themselves, yet they themselves would not enter into the kingdom of heaven nor would they allow others to go in there as well.. They are also the control freaks, the persons who try to dominate all others, and often they used Jesus’s Father’s word in vain and id, do spread evil instead of good. They the Pharisees to make themselves look good and fell good continually put down demands on others, hindered placed heavy burdens by the law beyond reason so they could feel (feel and seem better than others) Jesus was so angry with the Pharisees these clear offspring of vipers? Matthew 3:7-10, clearly demon led persons, Jesus and our anger anger at them was, is expressing Holy Righteous Rage against their idolatry, greed, self aggrandizement , hypocrisy, deceit, refusal to change, self righteousness , Pharisees “The one saying not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery? The one detesting idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in Law, do you dishonor God through transgression of the Law?” (Romans 2:22-23)  We all do need to get angry at the traditional heresy, lies, falsehoods and to get them out of our brains, as well as being angry with the the people spreading them too frequently !!! John 9 41Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains. Isa 56:11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. But even the Messianic Jewish Yeshua is not the Christian Jesus, but another false Jesus still

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Jesus, in the Synoptic Gospels, went to a fig tree looking for food to eat (Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-21). When he saw that there were no figs on the tree he cursed it. There is a very reasonable explanation why Jesus cursed the fig tree .  Jesus  cursing of the fig tree is a played or acted out parable, one which warned the nation of Israel of it’s impending  final judgment. ‘The time of the fig is not yet,’ says Mark, for it was just before Passover, about six weeks before the fully-formed fig appears. The fact that Mark adds these words shows that he knew what he was talking about. When the fig leaves appear about the end of March, they are accompanied by a crop of small knobs, called taqsh by the Arabs, a sort of fore-runner of the real figs. These taqsh are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. They drop off before the real fig is formed. But if the leaves appear unaccompanied by taqsh, there will be no figs that year. So it was evident to our Lord, when He turned aside to see if there were any of these taqsh on the fig-tree to assuage His hunger for the time being, that the absence of the taqsh meant that there would be no figs when the time of figs came. For all its fair foliage, it was a fruitless and a hopeless tree.”

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The Sin Of Worshiping The Land Of Israel Instead is Idolatry,  as idolizing and worshiping of Jerusalem, Israel and the Jews is evil in the sight of God.  Especially since Israel today is a shameful nation that has abandoned the sole God of the Bible, Jesus Christ. It  is demonism  that are  inspiring people to idolize Israel and the Jews. You are now  also God, Bible IGNORANT if you do still think that God blesses any Christians who support a wicked, Christ-rejecting people, Nation of Israel. The land of Israel itself and the nation still  has nothing to do with our salvation from death and sin.!  Jesus alone now died, was buried and rose up three days later for our justification. Defending Israel is NOT even a man’s job. Defending Israel is NOT a function of the New Testament Church. In fact, this may come as a shock to you, but the Bible says that Jerusalem and the Jews will be attacked and defeated, continually  as we often hear about it too, until the Lord returns to earth, thus ending “the times of the Gentiles.” Luke 21:24, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” Israel today is not the fulfillment of any New Testament Biblical prophecy. as well.Only a total jackass, fool would believe otherwise.. Don’t be fooled  as God is not concerned with restoring Israel to the Holy Land anymore . Jesus told the Jewish rabbis of His time that the kingdom of God had been taken away from them forever. Zionism  itself now still has no need, purpose, nor concern for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Salvation is of the Lord. Salvation came through the Jews, not by the Jews. A Jew must be born-again or he or she cannot go to Heaven. Nicodemus was a Jewish leader, a Pharisee. Jesus warned Nicodemus that he needed to be born again or else he couldn’t enter into the kingdom of God (John 3:5-7). Hebrews 13:5 promises that God never forsakes His own. If you are unsaved,  do refuse to accept Jesus Christ as th Lord of your life, it is you alone that have already forsaken God and rather  now next Hell, the Lake of Fire will be your eternal home.
https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/hell-is-real/

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Zionism is based on a total misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches. It is true that God gave Palestine to Hebrews in ancient times. But the Bible teaches that their possession of the land was under a conditional covenant with Jehovah. If the Hebrews disobeyed their God, they would lose the land. This is clearly taught in Genesis 17:9-14, Exodus 19:4-5, Leviticus 26:40-45, Deuteronomy 7:12, Joshua 23:15-16, 1 Kings 9:6-9, 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, Jeremiah 34:12-22, Ezekiel 33:23-29, Matthew 21:43, etc. When the Jews rejected their Messiah, God sent the Romans to dispossess the Jews from their land in 70 AD. This was God’s complete punishment on the Jews for crucifying Christ – therefore, the Jews today should not be persecuted for something that happened 2000 years ago. However, their former title deed on the land of Palestine is not abrogated. The New Testament teaches that Christians are to focus on the heavenly Jerusalem, not the earthly one, John 4:21, Galatians 4:24-28, Hebrews 12:18-24. We are told in Hebrews 11:13-16 that even Abraham has no further interest in a restored Jewish state on earth, because he is in a much better place in heaven. Do they thank God for restoring their nation after 1,878 years of exile? (the year 1948 A.D. minus 1,978 = A.D. 70, the year Rome destroyed Jerusalem). The Jews were forced into exile. The notion that unsaved, Christ-rejecting, Jews have been restored to their homeland is totally false and unbiblical.

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See also

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/03/09/the-sin-of-worshipping-the-land-of-israel-jews/

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/about-those-that-hate-me-and-thee-wrongfully/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/the-ongoing-earthly-spiritual-battle-is-an-undeniable-fact/

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MK 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized (with the Spirit) will be saved; but he who does not….

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(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally seperates the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

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The gift of discernment is a God given spiritual gift that the  Holy Spirit hasprovided a way for us to sort truth from error, a  GIFT that many charismatic Christians like Pentecostals now have been given Solely through their second baptism that allows them to know what the God thinks about the subject in question in reality, it is having the mind of Christ on the subject for discernment and it is one of these nine supernatural gifts (see 1 Cor. 12:8-10) Discernment is a sign of spiritual maturity. In our culture today up is down and right is wrong. God’s true people must be equipped with the supernatural power to tell the difference between the true and the false. If you are realy Holy Spirit filled then you know you have this gift..

1 Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Cor 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1 Cor 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1 Cor 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1 Cor 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Have any of you ever noticed that a good majority of false Christian PERSONS seem to profess to have the gift of discernment.. EVEN IF THEY MOSTLY DO NOT KNOW OR FOLLOW AFTER GOD STILL.. their false pride tends not to let them admit how dumb they realy are otherwise they may have to do something good about it.

MOST PERSONS IN REALITY STILL DO NOT HAVE SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT, AS OPPOSED TO USING MERELY THEIR OWN REASONING, MINDS, AND IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOLY SPRIT BAPTIZED, IN REALITY THEY STILL ARE NOT HOLY SPIRIT FILL STILL EVEN CAUSE THEY BASICALLY ARE NOT FOLLOWING AFTER GOD, OR HIS WAYS, THEY ARE STILL ARE DISOBEDIENT TO GOD MOSTLY AND HAVE NOT EVEN DIED TO SELF

1 Cor 2:15 (KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things…

Luke 12:57 (NIV) “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?”

Understand that there is a difference between discernment for the judgment that God encourages, and criticism for inappropriate judgments
 
Consider the negative reality of most person’s  lack of discernment: Firstly too much attention or not enough is given to world,  the flesh, the devil; even Christian sect seems to focus too much  on one and ignore the others. Diseases are falsely always assumed to be demons and “rebuked” without discernment or effect. Or Demons are often falsely assumed to be sickness, and irrelevant “treatment” is attempted. Also God’s discipline is attributed to Satan, and made light of. Or Satan’s oppression is accepted falsely as being from God. The obvious promptings of the carnal flesh are falsely assumed to be the spirit, or even of the soul. The sinful  soul’s leading  is confused with the spirit.  With such faulty diagnosis, discernment, many attempt “ministry”, to no effect, and often to great harm. Is this what we realy are like?
 
John 7:24 (NIV) “Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.”

Prov 19:2 (NIV) It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.

1 Cor 4:5 (Phi) “The moral of this is that we should make no hasty or premature judgments.”

(James 1:5 KJV)  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
 
(James 1:6 KJV)  But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

It is also a fact that if you want more revelations from God you have to act upon, obey, fulfill the revelation you already have. Discernment is damaged when anyone compromises to sin. But discernment is still one of the most important gift needed today. For every genuine gift of the Spirit, there is a counterfeit. Discernment will determine what is genuinely of the Spirit and what is deception of the devil.

Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48   For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

(1 Sam 3:19 KJV) And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground.
(Psa 37:31 KJV) The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Ezek 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. :27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. 28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken. 29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully. 30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. 31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.

Now when I have often met a new Church pastor, or a church elder, I may have even heard of him beforehand from others, but I basically did not know who he was or what he was realy like. Subsequently I often saw a clear visions, as clear as watching news on the TV, where God would now show me what sins they were still indulging in.. even sins like adultery. Now that is the gift of spiritual discernment. 1 Cor 2:15 (KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things…

the lack of spiritual discernment have lead to a tragic drifting of the  traditional, Biblical, Pentecostal ship. And a ship that drifts will find itself going nowhere  good..

.. did you get that gift yet?

Luke 11:9 (NIV) “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

Mat 16:3 (KJV) “…’It will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowering.’ O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?”

Isa 11:2-3 (NIV) The Spirit of the Lord will rest upon him–the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord–and he will delight in the fear of the Lord. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears.

John 8:15-16,26 (NIV) “You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father who sent me… I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”

what about you?

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Because Jesus was raised from the dead, we’ve been given a brand-new life, and we also do have everything to live for, including a future in heaven (1 Peter 1:3–4)

(Gen 9:3 KJV) Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

(Gen 24:1 KJV) And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the LORD had blessed Abraham in all things.

(Deu 4:7 KJV) For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

(Neh 9:6 KJV) Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

(Psa 8:6 KJV) Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

(Psa 57:2 KJV) I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.

(Prov 28:5 KJV) Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

(Isa 44:24 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

(Mat 19:26 KJV) But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

(Mat 21:22 KJV) And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

(Mat 28:20 KJV) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

(Mark 9:23 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

(Mark 10:27 KJV) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

(John 1:3 KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

(John 3:35 KJV) The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

(John 5:20 KJV) For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

(John 15:15 KJV) Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

(John 16:15 KJV) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

(Rom 8:28 KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

(Rom 8:32 KJV) He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

(Rom 11:36 KJV) For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

(1 Cor 3:21 KJV) Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

(2 Cor 5:17 KJV) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

(2 Cor 7:16 KJV) I rejoice therefore that I have confidence in you in all things.

(2 Cor 9:8 KJV) And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

(Eph 5:20 KJV) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

(Phil 3:21 KJV) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

(Phil 4:13 KJV) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

(Col 1:16 KJV) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

(Col 1:17 KJV) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

(2 Tim 2:7 KJV) Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

(1 Pet 4:8 KJV) And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

(1 Pet 4:11 KJV) If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

(2 Pet 1:3 KJV) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

(1 John 2:20 KJV) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

(1 John 2:27 KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

(3 John 1:2 KJV) Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

(Rev 4:11 KJV) Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

(Rev 21:5 KJV) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

(Rev 21:7 KJV) He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Jesus give us a fresh start everyday even in all things, your past is forgiven, you are equipped, saved, healed, delivered by him now too.. appropriate it right now..

 

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Turn your eyes upon Jesus,

Look full in His wonderful face,

and the things of earth will grow strangely dim,

in the light of His glory and grace.

FOR A START THE UNACCEPTABLE ABUSES I HAD WITNESSED HAD VERY SIMILAR PATTERNS.. THEY WERE RELATED TO STEALING OF MONEY, DISTORTION PREACHING ON TITHING, BUT ALSO RELATED MAINLY ON THE INADEQUATE SUPERVISIONS BY THE RESPONSIBLE SUPERINTENDENTS ON THE BAD PASTORS WHO WERE FALSELY ALLOWED TO DO THEIR OWN THING, ACTED LIKE DICTATORS.
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

Help in identifying-spiritual-abuse –– anyonecare.wordpress.com “First, abusive churches have a control-oriented style of leadership. “

”There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.” Ezekiel 22:25-28

“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Timothy 6:3-5

Jesus said “Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a mans life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.” Luke 12:15

“For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.” Ephesians 5:5-7

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:24

Some Pastors will go to Bible school for years and next not even change spiritually. I had the fortunate aspects of being associated for some time with many Bible students in a local religious institution. I happily got to know many of the…m personally while they were going to school and I had even lived with some of them too, as we shared a house.. I next saw many of these same persons who had next graduated from the Bible school and they next went on in life. What I had specially had noted was the good persons who went to the Bible school were next good and kind, humble persons. I had also noticed that the bad persons, the bad Bible students, those who had lied, stole, abused others, committed adultery, they next were still not changed even though they had graduated from the Bible college. All proving that Bible study alone does not change a persons but rather the spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit changes all of the persons. Now the Churches who try to manipulate , please all persons will fail

“There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and there is that withholdeth more than is meet, but it tendeth to poverty. The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. He that withholdeth corn, the people shall curse him: but blessing shall be upon the head of him that selleth it.” Proverbs 11:24-26

In one city I had been to every church I went to was great, but in another city every church I went to was bad and why was that now?

As I have traveled from city to city, provinces to province, to the US as well I also have visited so called Christian, Evangelical visited churches and one thing that has clearly amazed me, disrobed me as well was how not only are too often the leadership of the church pretentious inadequate, including the pastors, elders, deacons, but also the fact that in each city the churches tend to very very similar, all mostly very bad.. I have often said that these churches have been unable to significantly change the surrounding characters of persons because they rather have been conformed to them, they now have watered down falsely their membership standards, mainly have conformed to the local ruling evil spirits. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/north-american-churches/

it took me a while to next figure out what was wrong with a close, personal friend of mine, an evangelical pastor, and also with his associates now too in one of our local churches now too.. for he often had some of the right sounding words.. but some how I knew something was always obviously basically wrong.. it even was the fact he clearly was always now concerned about the Basics of life: food, clothing, shelter, job, image and too often rather.. their concern for having better material things… Hirelings or prostitutes to me it means the same thing.. sadly the last 12 pastors I had personally encountered where now hirelings!

(Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29 The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30 Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/a-hireling-in-an-evangelical-church/

The opposite of humility is pride. Pride comes from within, out of the heart of men
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/pride-leads-to-destruction-and-humility-to-honour-what-motivates-many-persons-these-days/

It is not too long of a time when one hears in life negative criticisms about even the Church of Jesus, Christ, or the pastors, or the church elders.. and while we are all still to keep our eyes and ears open we all now can avoid the great disappointments if we firstly still do go to a Church to discover, to get to know God firsthand, and not rather to know better the preacher, or the elders, or the denomination.

Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

When I seek God I find him and he does not fail me or disappointed me.

(Eccl 12:1 KJV) Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

(James 4:8 KJV) Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/dont-be-disappointed-with-god/

Let another man praise thee and not thyself.. and check if what is said is really so now too.. and all this now is nothing new as well. How many of you do know that even the preacher now can lie too?

(Acts 20:31 KJV) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/too-often-misleading-preachers/

(Prov 27:23 KJV) Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WANT AN OVER SIMPLIFIED RELIGION, GOSPEL, BIBLE.. AND 95 PERCENT OF THE CHRISTIANS EVEN NOW DO NOT READ THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES A DAY, SO THEY BELIEVE MOSTLY WHAT OTHERS HAD SAID ABOUT THE BIBLE. Mostly distortions, lies, heresies too..

ALMOST ALL CHRISTIANS DO HAVE TO STOP LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHERS SAY THE BIBLE SAYS AND TO RATHER NOW START TO KNOW, READ THE BIBLE THEMSELVES. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE STILL IN GREAT ERRORS..

NOW THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THERE ARE TRUE AND FALSE APOSTLES, PROPHETS, ELDERS, TEACHERS AND HOW TO RECOGNIZE THEM. By their behaviors..

“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:5 “Is John MacArthur a heretic when he teaches the entire Pentecostal movement worldwide (over 400 million) is of Satan? Isn’t blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when one attributes the gift of God to Satan? When MacArthur boldly teaches all speaking in tongues done today is demonic he has no idea of the consequences he’s facing!
http://safeguardyoursoul.com/are-tongues-demonic/

One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now. today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade a pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others. Now sad but true.. too many false pastors, false teachers, false cults, false denominations with hidden agenda take advantage of this void and lead the professing Christian sheep astray next, helped by the devil in all of this too undeniably.
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/pastors-elders-shepherds-christian-leaders-evangelists/

I strongly support the existence of good church shepherds, good church pastors, good elders, who visit their flock, provide help to them, do keep vigilance, guard over them and their good welfare, visit them in the Hospital too. These acts clearly distinguishes them from the much too many bad pastors, rather pastoral prostitutes or hirelings WE SEEM TO STILL ENCOUNTER EVEN THESE DAYS. * Bad men who were not chosen by God to be shepherds, but rather self appointed even for many wrong reasons. And the term pastors in the Bible is rather a plural one meaning the local church should have many of them now too. Not just a false one man ministry. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

God speaks to us in many ways today postedat.wordpress.com
Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, will not confess their sins now too..

(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally spares the the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement

Even all Jews and Zionists would do well to learn from the Biblical account of even the Apostle Judas.” When morning came, he called HIS DISCIPLES to him and chose twelve of them whom he also designated apostles: Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor” (Lk. 6:13-16). Once he was one of the Apostles but next you can tell what he realy was by what he did, by his own fruits, theft and betrayals included.. ” Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.” Psa 41:9 All four gospels identify Judas as the betrayer. The same Judas Iscariot also had left everything to follow the Lord. In modern terminology, he had ‘accepted’ Jesus as Lord Judas is a prime example of a ONCE CHOSEN believer who fell into absolute apostasy. For three years he followed the Lord with the other disciples BUT HE NEXT BECAME A TRAITOR, turning against Jesus Christ the Messiah, Judas quietly became a vile, tool of Satan WITH his heart gradually hardened became the false, treacherous man who had even sold the Savior even for a fistful of coins. He served as crooked treasurer for Jesus and the Apostles, which meant he carried the money bag. and abused it. John tells us that he was also dishonest and that he often stole money out of the bag whenever he wanted it. he objected so strongly to Mary (sister of Martha and Lazarus) pouring expensive perfume (nard) on Jesus’ feet. He said they should have sold the nard and used the money to help the poor. But what he really wanted was more money in the treasury so he could steal it. (John. 12:1-6); Judas clearly unlike the other apostles did not give up his Jewish heritage but falsely tried to hang on to it.; He made the mistake that falsely looked towards a revived Jewish empire on earth. Judas next committed suicide even and he was next replaced as an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

 

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