BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS

Now as to the book of Revelations most decent Bible scholars say the symbols in Revelation refer to events and places familiar to its intended audience – Firstly to the first century Christians in Asia Minor. The book, itself, states that its message is directed at the first century Christians in Asia Minor, and that the events it describes would happen “soon” (Revelation 1: 1-4, 1:9-11, 22:10). Face it  next even now there is much disagreement as to the actual interpretation of this book.

The Old testament prophecy of Jeremiah clearly stated that the original Babylon would be destroyed, never to be inhabited again. The physical city of Babylon was originally built by Nimrod after the flood. It was located on the Euphrates River, about 55 miles south of where Baghdad, Iraq stands today. The name Babylon came from the Tower of Babel that was constructed there. Babylon became a large city of global prominence around 1728 BC during the reign of Hammurabi. The glory years of Babylon were achieved under Nebuchadnezzar II (604-562 BC). The city declined during the reign of Belshazzar, and came to ruin when Xerxes, the Persian king, destroyed it in 478 BC. Thus, Jeremiah’s prophesied destruction of Babylon was accomplished, and, just as the prophecy said, it has never been inhabited to this day

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The city Babylon described in Revelation is called “Mystery Babylon.” The prophecy of Mystery Babylon is found in Revelation 17:3-5. “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

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Verse 18 of the chapter tells us that the woman is a city. “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” In verse 1, we are told that the woman sits on many waters. Verse 15 explains the meaning of the waters. “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Not only is this woman a city, but the city is apparently the headquarters over a vast international commerce, financial, political system. The Angel’s warning was that God’s people might hear His voice saying: “Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Rev. 18:4

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the New Covenant is not a continuation of the old TESTAMENT

It is amazing how New Testament Bible ignorant persons falsely dispute the facts about Jews, Israel and Messianic Jews.. The New Covenant, the New testament, has replaced the Old Covenant, the old Testament.. the New Covenant is not a continuation of the old but it’s substitute.  Judaism, plus JEWS   are now dead to God and is Satanic! “…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” —Revelation 2:9  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2013/11/12/the-inheritance-of-abraham-a-report-on-the-promised-land/
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WORLD’S OLDEST BOOK:  Bible published in full online  Along with the Codex Vaticanus, the Codex Sinaiticus is considered the oldest known Bible in the world. It was written in Greek . It is now preserved in the Vatican Museum, a GREEK OLD TESTAMENT was used by the Jews under the Roman rule in their Jewish synagogues. The New testament originally was  written only in Greek and it is a lie that it was written in Hebrew..
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Ostriches who do refuse to see the truth is not new.. what you a Jewish lover NOW still do show false partiality to the Jews over all other nations, those same Jews who are no longer God’s chosen people, and you do not see this as a false hatred towards others? God loves all of his children now.
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SO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AT THE TIME OF JESUS FOR ALL PURPOSES DIDN’T EXIST?
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It is a documented fact that when the Ten Tribes of Joseph, known as “Israel or Ephraim,” were taken into “captivity” in c.800 BCE by Assyria, they ceased to exist as a separate people because they lost their use of their Aramaic/Hebrew language and their sense of Israelite tribal identity. Their Conquests by the Greeks, Romans had helped to further this..
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/jews-israel-arabs-and-jesus-christ-the-bible/
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The problem even with the Messianic Jews and most JEWS is that they are color blind.. they can only see things through a Jewish perspective.. not the reality..
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Many people fail to realize the significant effect the Greeks and Romans by their conquests had on the language usages in the middle east, the areas of the Greek and Roman Empire, even at the time of Jesus Christ.
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Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS….
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Messianic Jews and Christians tend to still even differ as to how they see the forming of the Christian church. For the Messianic Jews the Church was composed originally of mainly Jewish speaking Apostles , Jews and is a reformed version Judaism.. the New testament was supposedly originally written in Hebrew even if there is absolutely no substantiating go it anywhere, and the Apostle Paul is disliked cause he betrays Judaism, But for the Christians the church is composed of Greek speaking apostles and Gentiles ,,and the Apostle Paul is liked cause he helps to bring Salvation to the gentiles..the New Testament was written originally in Greek and there is loads of evidence of this.
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Forget the Messianic Jews spin doctors, Messianic Jews still tend to be liars who tend to hate Christians, the Church.. Look it should be very clear to anyone who reads the Bible honestly the Greek language and a majority of Greek speaking gentiles was a norm in the early church..
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Acts 14:1 And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into the synagogue of the Jews, and so spake, that a great multitude both of the Jews and also of the Greeks believed.
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The problem with Messianic Jews is..(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
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Luke 23:34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” And they divided His garments and cast lots. SO IF JESUS PRAYED AND ASK FORGIVENESS AND GOD FORGAVE THE BETRAYERS AND MURDERERS OF JESUS WHY DID GOD DESTROY JERUSALEM AND IT’S TEMPLE?
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GOD NOT ONLY KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL IN 70 AD.. BUT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST HE CHANGED THE WORLD’S CALENDAR, PROCLAIMING HIS NEW ERA AND TODAY IS 2013 AD, AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
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The God of Abraham is Jesus Christ not the antichrist Jeshua
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John 8: 33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
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Note still also that God is the main olive root, plant.. The Christian Branch has been added and the Jewish Branch has been broken off.. those who say otherwise are liars.. causing false divisions in the body of Jesus Christ.
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(Rom 10:1 KJV) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
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Most Messianic Jews will still go to hell if they have not abandoned their false practice of Judaism.
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v. Ju·da·ized, Ju·da·iz·ing, Ju·da·iz·es. v.tr. To bring into conformity with Judaism. v.intr. To adopt Jewish customs and beliefs. ( Not the Christian ones)
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Messianic Jews, judaizer , Seventh day Adventist what do they have in common? well they follow the old testament laws for a start, those laws that God has given for the Jewish people alone to observe and not the Christian Persons.. Christian persons follow solely the laws of the New Testament..
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“God told the prophet Jeremiah, concerning the Jews, in Jeremiah 7:16 and 14:11… “Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee… Pray not for this people for their good.” Abraham believed upon the Messiah and was saved… “And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness” (Genesis 15:6). We read in Isaiah 43:11, “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” We read in Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.” And I love Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him (Jesus) that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 10:13 promises, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord (Jesus) shall be saved.”
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Oh listen all you Jews today… “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” Salvation may be of the Jews, but 95% of Jews today DON’T HAVE IT! This is the tragic truth.
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Certainly the Jews were once God’s people, but the Lord has set the nation of Israel aside in 586 B.C. until He returns. Concerning the Jews in present day the Bible teaches in Luke 21:24, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” This Scripture was fulfilled in part when the Roman ruler, Titus, declared war on the Jews in A.D. 70 and annihilated them, destroying their 2nd temple, and scattering them aboard. Not one temple stone was left sitting upon another. From that time until today, the Jews have been scattered across the world. Israel today is a mess, still lacking a 3rd temple. Luke 21:24 teaches that Israel’s woes will continue until Jesus Christ returns to reign. The religious Jewish leaders of today are as Pharisaical and hypocritical as they were 2000 years ago. It’s Against the Law in Israel to Convert to Christianity (soul-winning is illegal)
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The messiah that the Jews are looking for today will be the Antichrist, because they rejected their true Messiah when He came to His own 2,000 years ago and they crucified Him. Jews today still practice idolatry. In fact, it’s epidemic! The Jews had sinned, and God was angry at them. Do you think the Jews are any better today? They are 100 times worse!!! They still murder their children through abortion, as to Moloch. Jews are no more righteous than the rest of the heathen world. The Jews are saturated with sin today, as is the entire world (1st John 5:19).
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Israel today is a whoring after OTHER gods. God has cut Israel off and cast the temple out of His sight, just as He warned. BOTH Judaizer Jews and Islamic Arabs reject Jesus as the Messiah, the only begotten Son of God. Therefore, BOTH religions worship the same false mythical god that doesn’t exist. Anyone who openly rejects Jesus Christ has also rejected the Father the Bible says. 1st John 2:23, “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” Most Jews today, including the official Judaism religion of the nation of Israel, REJECT Jesus as the Christ. Therefore Jews DO NOT have the Father either, just as Arabs who follow Muhammad DO NOT have the Father. God warned that He would take away the Jewish house of Jeroboam as a farmer takes away crap… 1st Kings 14:10, “Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone.”
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Do you think God feels any differently about Zionism and Judaism? The Talmud was written by evil men. It is NOT oral tradition passed down from Moses. God gave Moses the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible) Word-for-Word, and no more. There is NO oral tradition. The Talmud is a cleverly crafted lie of the Devil, concocted by foolish unbelieving men who hated Jesus Christ. Whoever you are I beseech you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that you burn the Talmud and use only the inspired Words of God. The Talmud teaches that Jesus was the bastard son of a Roman soldier, and that Jesus was boiled in urine and dung, being sent to burn in hell forever. That is what the Jews and Jewish rabbis think of the Lord Jesus Christ. Clearly Jews hate Jesus Christ as much today as they did when their ancestors had Him crucified by the Romans. Not all Jews hate Jesus, but most of them do. Matthew 27:25, “Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.” And so it was in 70 A.D. when the Roman army under Titus invaded Jerusalem and murdered many of the Jews, not leaving one stone of the temple remaining atop another, just as the Bible foretold. God will not be mocked.
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Today, 2,000-years later, most Jews still reject Jesus as their Christ, believing instead that the Messiah has not come. Thus, they will fully embrace the man of sin, the Antichrist, when he comes, who will stand up from the temple in Jerusalem and declare to be god, demanding worship or death (2nd Thessalonians 2:4; Daniel 9:24-27; Revelation 13:15). In these last days, I believe that the Talmud will be instrumental in the Abomination of abominations, The Great Whore of Revelation 171 and 19:2.
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Whereas some Bible scholars have suspected that the Roman Catholic Church will be The Great Whore, I think not. It is Judaism, the Jews, Messianic Jews as well
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Read what the King James Bible, God’s Word, has to say about Israel and the Jews..
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1st Kings 9:6-8, “But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them: Then will I cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house, which I have hallowed for my name, will I cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all people: And at this house, which is high, every one that passeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss; and they shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and to this house?”” By David J. Stewart
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Jesus Christ and the Trinity are some of the greatest issues that separate Christianity from Judaism, But there are many others too. The Basic Truth is that if you falsely rely on the Hebrew old testament and reject what the Greek New Testament says you will be in error, still going to hell even Messianic Jews included..
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THE MESSIANIC JEWISH MESSIAH DIFFERS FROM THE CHRISTIAN JESUS CHRIST Messianic Jews claim that the Jewish messiah is Jeshua not Jesus Christ.. Messianic parrots tend top repeat what theory false teachers taught them as they are clearly still mostly new testament ignorant..
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They falsely do believe that when the Messiah is reigning as King of Israel, all of the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel, their homeland (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24). This has clearly not yet fully happened and never will .
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They falsely do believe that in the Rebuilding of the Holy Temple The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26–27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21).. The Temple was still standing in Jesus’ day. It was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’ crucifixion and it has not yet been rebuilt. This has clearly not yet fully happened and never will
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They falsely do believe in the Embracing of Torah Observance by All Jews The Messiah will reign as King at a time when all the Jewish people will observe God’s commandments (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27). This has clearly not yet fully happened and never will . Jesus never ruled as a a Jewish King, nor have all Jews embraced the commandments of God’s Torah. This has clearly not yet fully happened and never will
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All of these criteria for the Jewish Messiah are found in numerous places in the Jewish Bible. One foundational example is in the book of Ezekiel, Chapter 37:24-28:
“24 And My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them
25 and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant, in which your fathers have lived; and they shall live there, they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever; and My servant David will be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant, which I will give them; and I will multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in their midst forever
27 and My tabernacle shall be with them, and I will be their God and they will be My people.
28 And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.”
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Now all that all still is only the Jewish only personal interpretation of the Bible and is not what most people believe, Christians now included.
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Yes a Jewish Bible does not have a Messianic “installment plan” where Messiah comes, fails in his Jewish mission, and then returns thousands of years later with an Alternate mission. The Jew still await the coming of the fill Messiah, where he and all the Jews will utopian world , so come soon! This has clearly not yet fully happened and never will . As most Jews will still end up in hell for undeniably falsely refusing Jesus Christ when he first cam to them.. There will also be no Jewish Millennium but a world wide millennium of peace and prosperity..
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It’s important to understand that under the New Covenant, the New Testament, the second coming for the church doctrine is an admission that Jesus will not the Jewish Messianic criteria, expectations as the Christian Church alone itself is now the true Israel replacement and inherits all he Old testament messianic promises..
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YOU ARE NOW A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN AND BUT NOT BOTH FOR BEING JEWISH MEANS FOLLOWING THE JEWISH RELIGION SOLELY AND NOT THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
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NOW again about the Sabbath, .Revelation says that the end-time people of God will be keeping God’s commandments (Rev. 12:17).
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This verse does not say which commandments are still valid. It is wrong to assume that it means the Ten, when God has actually given many more commandments than that.

The Jews, Messianic Jews are still one of the biggest false enemies of Jesus Christ working hard to water down the AUTHORITY, the NAME , existence of JESUS CHRIS Tand they will once again fail at it too..
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As per “YAHWEH  YESHUA  IS ALIVE AND WELL” AND WHAT YOU ARE STILL ASHAMED TO CALL HIM BY HIS REAL NAME JESUS CHRIST AND STILL REALLY WHY IS THAT? CAUSE YOU HATE HIM SO MUCH STILL AND ALL HE STANDS FOR?
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If you truly now do as you claim even love your fellow man you would not lie to him and you also would not lie to God too about who Jesus Christ really is.. the God.. God of the Gentiles and the Jews now too…
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Jewish believers in Yeshua? but there is No such thing.. as Jewish believers in Yeshua as there are only Believers in Jesus Christ.. If someone born to a Jewish mother who embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT now a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They now are either a New Testament Christian, or a Old testament Jew.. The ‘messianic Jews’ now are just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN. Messianic Jews also undeniably tend to tell half truths, they do falsely and too often now take New testament verses out of Context, falsely do promote a non Christian Gospel as they basically are still AntiChrists … Sad..
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Christianity teaches that Judaism is the ‘old’ covenant which Christianity has replaced? and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . Read the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the spirit of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the New testament Bible’s as well. 2 Tim 3:5 KJV Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
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Jesus  Christ is still the only means of personal salvation for both the Jews and gentiles.. no one else can save you from hell..
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The Old Testament laws given by God through Moses were undeniably temporary laws given only for the Jews. they were replaced, superceded by the New testament laws.. Here also is what the false Christians, the Jewish ones generally will not tell you even.. How did the Jews live for thousands of years before the Mosiac laws came into being? And how are they really to live after Jesus died too…
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(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. .
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(1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;.
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2 Tim 4:3-4 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, AND shall be turned unto fables.
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Was what Jesus did for us in the cross shedding his blood, dying for us all was it Enough? God said it was finished Or, did God Lie to us?
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Are all real NEW Testament Christians Under Any Part of the Old Law?
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Do we Know, follow the LORD Jesus Christ or the falsely the Old testament Jewish Law?
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Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
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Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. .
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Luke 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! .
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I Corinthians 11:31-32 that we judge ourselves first so that we will not be judged
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1 Cor 5:11 KJV) But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
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1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
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2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
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2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
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True Christians do not mix the Old and New Covenants “laws”, laws as defined by the New testament, nor do they rightfully now support any of the Judaizers and their “laws”, all those persons who want to keep the Torah “laws” and just add Jesus to it. Today the entire Old Covenant “laws” was to be casted out by the Christian but we must all still follow His new teachings that are valid in the New Covenant as per (Galatians 4:21-31). The New Covenant teachings of Jesus did not include Sabbath-keeping “laws”and many other “laws”of the now obsolete Torah. True Christians believe that the “laws” has been completely abrogated and replaced with the Law of Christ.; Messianic Jews and the Seventh day Adventists, Judaizers do still try to uphold invalid laws, part of the Bible falsely do draw people away from the truth of Christ.
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It is undeniable that whether accidental or deliberate there is a significant attempt to mislead people from Jesus Christ’s sole way of Salvation from Hell to heaven by many persons or groups.. Including Judiazers, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons too….. Satan and his many followers falsely do still works feverishly to draw attention away from his arch enemy, the Head of His true body, Jesus Christ. They falsely deny the new testament and Jesus Christ finished work.. “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.” Romans 1:25 “The spirit of antichrist” is behind this false teaching of making an idol out of any mere day. Anti means in place of.. Anti-christ means “in place of Christ.” (1 John 4:1-6)
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There are many rather still fools, even ignorant persons who think that they can merely obtain God’s favor by keeping any of the laws of the Old Testament.. these deceived persons all fail to realize that the Old Testament were written to the Jews only, not to any gentiles.. Now today all of these over 465 old testament inapplicable laws are redundant, obsolete even to all of the Jews..  Furthermore keeping any of these Mosaic laws does not insure any personal entrance into heaven..
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Can you be a practicing Jew and also believe that Jesus is the messiah? The customary answer is no. Though Christianity began in Jerusalem , all Christians came to understand themselves as people who by definition were not Jewish and who believed that Christianity had “superseded” Judaism — that is, “taken its seat” of favor before God. While the early church was made up of both Jews and gentiles who professed faith in Jesus as Messiah and Lord the early church was anti-Jewish. To accept Jews into the church as Jews who follow the Torah’s instructions for observant Jewish life even as they live in fellowship with Christian Jesus-believing gentiles, would represent a false unacceptable return to Judaism.. Christianity and rabbinic Judaism next emerged as rival claimants to continuity with Israel after the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD.. In the case of Messianic Jews, their failure to leave their ongoing Jewishness is what damns them to hell. Now get that into you head.. Within the early church there was an ongoing conflict between two groups who both claimed to be followers of Jesus Christ. One group held to the teachings of Jesus as taught by the apostles regarding salvation in Christ alone. The other group also held to the teachings of Jesus but added certain Jewish religious practices, particularly circumcision. As the New American Commentary explains, “… the Apostle Paul himself had waged a steady campaign against a group of false teachers, commonly known as Judiazers, who had sown great confusion among the apostle’s recent converts by teaching that becoming Jewish was necessary for salvation.”
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Old Israel supposedly being God’s people for they still will go to hell LIKE MANY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WILL if they personally reject Christ and do not continue to follow after him. (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

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Some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the supposedly historical Jewish Jesus. why? as the only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow now is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law – essentially the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament. also the Mosaic Laws were given only for the once chosen Jews.. As nobody today can follow both religions; for they are mutually exclusive. All Believers should still embrace the whole Word of God that is written by God but now they do not follow the non applicable Old Testament laws, rituals. The Old Testament has now been superseded by the New Testament. The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus. Jews, Judiazers, even the false Christians themselves who want it seems to promote their own self importance, the false value of the now rather false, obsolete old Judaic religion, old testament dominance and it’s also still the false observation of the Old testament letter of the law over the New Testament spirit of the law approach. It is an ungodly act still too. … we need only to follow the law of the spirit.. (Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus..
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AND AS FAR AS JESUS FULFILLING THE OLD TESTAMENT DO PEOPLE NOW EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS NOW?
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Jesus was the only man to ever perfectly keep the law. He did this then died on the cross to do away completely with the law as the means for righteousness, “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and TOOK IT OUT OF THE WAY (gone forever), NAILING IT TO THE CROSS;” Colossians 2:14 Matthew 5:17 – Greek word for “fulfilled” means EXPIRED – which means to DO AWAY WITH! Jesus Christ, Yeshua has come and put and “END” to the OLD Testament religious approach, law for our righteousness. Jesus Christ the only Messiah too has already come and fulfilled the law’s requirements by his sinless death, the most important event being that He bled on that cross as “the Lamb of God” as a sacrifice for the sins of all of mankind (John 1:29). This now also included nailing the old testament laws to the cross. Now if you are still focusing on the mere shadows of the messiah given to the Jews under the OLD testament, and you are living under the old and obsolete covenant which was far inferior to the NEW Testament which Jesus had introduced, accomplished and which is a far superior and a much “BETTER covenant” and made the old covenant obsolete (Hebrews 8:6) you are in great error and still going to hell undeniably now too. “For Christ is THE END of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” Romans 10:4
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What Jesus Christ did when He died on that cross for the sins of all men?
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“Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.” Colossians 2:14-19 So NOW you who are only “complete in Christ” (v10) even to not allow any foul, law-keep religious devil to judge or condemn you for not keeping an inferior, obsolete Jewish law that was done away with and nailed to the cross. face that truth, reality or you will go to hell next instead. Jesus is the only way of Salvation, forgiveness for your sins, his finished work on the cross is the only way..
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Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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When Jesus was referring to “the law” in those verses, He was not referring to the law of MOSES. In fact, Jesus and the apostles differentiate between the law of God and the law of Moses in many places, this is a key point. Jesus proves that He is not talking about the law of Moses in some of the very next verses where He lists the commandments now, and even updates a few, making them stricter…..He says “anyone who breaks the least of THESE commandments shall be least in the kingdom.” What commandments? He didn’t name any yet, BUT HE WAS ABOUT TO. Remember, according to Hebrews 7 that there was a changing of the priesthood, therefore a changing of the law.
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Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
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Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
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Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be justified by the law of Moses.
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All Jewish and non Jewish persons have to keep only these laws – to be filled with the Holy Spirit and to obey the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ The old system under the law of Moses was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. Hebrews 10:1
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The apostle Paul certifies that “the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good” (Romans 7:12), we also do still know as per Romans 7: “1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
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How much more clearer can it be , we are adulterers if we serve the law, since we are dead to the law once we have been married to Jesus Christ.. He Jesus Christ had fulfill the law as Moses had written it. Once He died and rose again He ratified what was needed to be kept under the law of Christ, the laws of the Holy Spirit (not Moses). This law was either given directly by Jesus or through the apostles after the resurrection where they all were filled with the Holy Spirit in the Book of Acts. Pentecost is not an option but mandatory for all Christians.
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Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. To have it put aside. We are under the new law of Christ and NOT under the law of Moses. Some of the Old Testament laws are ratified in the new covenant and most are not. Jesus himself had removed the requirement of having to follow the Law in order to please God, he even had established justification by faith, and thereby united both Jew and Gentile into one group in Christ. This is when Paul says in verse 15 that he abolished in his flesh the enmity which is the law of commandments in ordinances. The Law was that which separated Jew from Gentile and since it has been fulfilled in Christ, it is no longer something that would separate Jew and Gentile. Both Jews and Gentiles can be one, Christians the Church now instead. The word “fulfill” which many abuse, it does not mean to continue or reinforce.
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Matthew consistently used the word fulfill in a specific manner, once something is fulfilled there is not a need for any future fulfillment. Now fulfilled all mean a completion of something that is said. That something was prophesied or written and he fulfilled it or made it happen, bringing it to its end, having it come to pass, no longer applicable commandments, all he old testament laws.. 613 of them now too.. As we can see, these 613 commands were temporary and only for a certain time and next many of the Old Testament laws are given new meaning in the New Testament. Whatever came through the cross and taught by the apostles were the new applicable teachings for the Church. Jesus did not tell the disciples not to sacrifice animals during this time they were still under the law before his resurrection. Its obvious after he died the Temple veil was rent and his sacrifice was made once for all, they no longer had to do continue this approach.
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Apostle Paul describes the Mosaic covenant in 2 Cor.3: 7 the HOLY SPIRIT tells us, is “passing away” and is “abolished” (verses 11,13), in its place we have the “ministry of the Spirit” and “the ministry of righteousness” (verses 8,9).” For “the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” You are trying to earn favor with God by observing certain days or months or seasons or years. I fear for you. Perhaps all my hard work with you was for nothing. Dear brothers and sisters, I plead with you to live as I do in freedom from these things, for I have become like you Gentiles—free from those laws. Galatians 4:10-12 So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
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For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality. Colossians 2:16-17
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Today the church is the true Israel and Christians are God’s true “Jews” today. Jesus taught that God would take his blessings away from fleshly Israel who rejected him as Christ and give it to the Gentiles. Jesus and the Apostles clearly taught the Gentile believers would replace Jewish non-believers.
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Luke 23:34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” And they divided His garments and cast lots.
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SO IF JESUS PRAYED AND ASK FORGIVENESS AND GOD FORGAVE THE BETRAYERS AND MURDERERS OF JESUS WHY DID GOD DESTROY JERUSALEM AND IT’S TEMPLE? because he was establishing a new religion and cancelling the old one..
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IT IS ALSO UNDENIABLE THAT JEWS, MESSIANIC JEWS AND CHRISTIANS HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON WHO AND WHAT JESUS THE CHRIST WAS, IS TO BE..
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(Mat 23:37 KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.;
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(Rom 10:1 KJV) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
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The problem even with the Messianic Jews and most JEWS is that they are color blind.. those same Jews who are no longer God’s chosen people, they can only see things through a Jewish perspective.. not the reality.. Christians have replaced the Jews now as God’s chosen ones.. (Eph 1:4 KJV) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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Messianic Jews are thus the false antichrist still.. It should be of note, interest to all Bible students, that the Christian Church, the bride of Christ, the final Jewish seed, was not mentioned directly in the old Testament but only in the new Testament. In the New testament the Jews are no longer the Chosen ones too, the Christians are.
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MESSIANIC FAITH IS STILL A BIG RIP OFF.. IT IS A JEWISH ANTICHRIST WORSHIP, IT IS A RELGION STILL OF PERSONAL GOOD WORKS, NOT BASED ON A REAL FAITH IN THE REAL JESUS CHRIST.
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Messianic Jews are really still lost persons going to hell. Messianic Jews have a completely different interpretation of the Kingdom of God, of Jesus Christ still.. they falsely see Jesus coming back to establish the kingdom of the Jews and not the kingdom of Heaven.. Messianic Jews do falsely want us all to believe that Jesus remains firmly connected to unsaved Jewish people . and that Jerusalem is still “that great city “ , but he has temporarily forsaken them because they forsook him . The Same attempt is made on when these deceivers say that Jewish people are still God’s chosen people . But an unbelieving Jew will go to the same hell that an unbelieving Gentile will go to . if you are a Christian, do you believe that the Jews go to Hell? the Christian answer will be “yes, anyone who doesn’t accept Jesus as their saviour goes to hell.” I think the more interesting question is, when did most of Jews stop worshipping God? Before or after Jesus was born?
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Christianity is not about the support for Israel, the Jews RATHER IT IS ABOUT SERVING GOD THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND BEING IN HEAVEN WITH HIM
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Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. Jews will always be far from any right to the the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone! The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.
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Christians and the current non-Christian Jews also do worship different gods , The Jews do not, did not truly honor Christ as the promised Messiah , but are looking for another that will come in his own name . The Talmud itself speaks of absolute mockery and hatred for Christ and Christians.
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Jesus Said the Holy Spirit alone will guide and lead you into all truth, not some persons.. CHRIST – the anointed one- Greek for Messiah (anointed one) is Christos, Christ in English. Thus, “Jesus Christ” joins a name and a title, and means Jesus the Messiah. Christ, Messiah, Anointed One. The title “Christ” or “Anointed One” Gk. Christos “Cristov” occurs about 350 times in the New Testament.. The word christos means a person HOLY SPIRIT anointed . The Greek name for an individual “Christos” rendered “Christ” in Scripture, the basic of the term Christian now as well, comes from the Greek word “chrio” means to anoint with oil, the symbol of the Holy Spirit, one can tell if any person is a Christian cause they also can see the evidence of the holy spirit’s anointing.. so now we all can be anointed one inspectors of all Christians now too. Luke 4:18-19 (Wey) [Jesus:] “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me to proclaim Good News to the poor; He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners of war and recovery of sight to the blind: to send away free those whom tyranny has crushed, to proclaim the year of acceptance with the Lord.”But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:20, 27; The word christos means a person so anointed and the word chrisma refers to that by which a person is anointed. John uses chrisma in these two verses, not speaking of the object being anointed but of the instrument of anointing. Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,” just as Herodianos would mean “one who belongs to Herod.” As the ultimate Prophet, King and Priest, Jesus Christ was anointed when he began his earthly ministry. This anointing was predicted by Isaiah in Isaiah 61:1 when he said that the Spirit of the Lord would come upon the Messiah. In God’s time, when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, we are told the Holy Spirit came upon him when he came up out of the water. In other words, he was anointed by the Holy Spirit, and that without measure. When Jesus quoted Isaiah 61:1,2 in the synagogue of Nazareth, saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,” he was announcing to the people that he was the Messiah prophesied by Isaiah long ago and that the anointing of the Holy Spirit was now resting upon him. Not only is Jesus Christ anointed, but the Bible tells us that every believer in Jesus Christ is also anointed. We are kings, priests, and prophets under the Priest, Prophet and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. We find references to this in many places. John the Baptist said there was another person coming after him, mightier than himself, who would baptize people in the Holy Spirit and fire. In Acts 1:5 the Lord Jesus Christ himself speaks of this, saying, “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” This was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, as we read in Acts 2:4: “All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.” The Greek word for anointing is chrisma, from which we have the word chrism. Chrisma appears several times in 1 John 2:20 and 27. It comes from the root word, chriô, which means to rub something or someone lightly with a substance like oil or lotion. Thus, when John writes in 1 John 2:20, “But you have a chrisma, an anointing,” he was referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit upon every believer.;
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Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
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Proverbs 27: 5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Revelation 3: 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
http://lifebyjesus.wordpress.com/2013/10/17/christianity-is-not-about-the-support-for-israel-the-jews/
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Many of the Jewish people.. play word and sound assimilation’s to arrive at their faulty conclusions . the bible warns of “ANOTHER JESUS.” the context is that Paul is making reference to someone who is called “Jesus” (Yeshua). But is someone who has a different IDENTITY, he is not the same in substance, he is not God in the flesh and therefore is not the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE (John 14:6). It is more important to have the MEANING of the word, when translating a word from one language to another, than it is to make sure everyone SPEAKS or pronounces it the same in all languages. The “NAM…http://www.letusreason.org/sacna%202.htm
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It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus Christ now http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/chosen-is-only-used-of-those-who-follow-jesus-christ-now/
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Now there is absolutely no evidence in any Bible manuscript that YHWH was used ANYWHERE in the New Testament . Ridiculous KJV Bible Corrections: Who is Yahweh? by John Hinton, Ph.D. jhinton@post.harvard.edu
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Ex 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
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Ps 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
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Isa 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
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Isa 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:
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The above quoted verses are the four verses where the name of God is pronounced in the KJV (as well as the ASV, and a few other English versions).
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There is a VERY FALSE popular movement to replace the name of God, Jehovah, with the name Yahweh. This is being pushed especially hard among those in the Identity and Christian patriot movements, and especially among the alternative news community prominent on the shortwave, which some Christians perceive of as being a source of more purer form of broadcasted Christianity. There are exceptions, but overall this is nonsense because the shortwave Christian broadcasts are frequently every bit as commercialized (just different products) and apostate as the “Christianity” that is broadcasted on TV.
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Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
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This movement to alter God’s name with absolutely nothing that resembles scriptural, textual, or linguistic support, has misled huge numbers of Christians into denying the Bible and accepting the work of Bible-scoffing atheists who have dominated the academic field of biblical studies since the mid-nineteenth century. I even hear people who claim to be King James Bible supporters use this perversion of the name of God. If they deny what the KJV says about the name of God, then they do not believe the KJV is God’s word. In fact, they do not believe that the Hebrew Old Testament is God’s word either, because it clearly says Yehovah, which becomes Jehovah in English pronunciation, and pronounced He’ova in Spanish. If one can change that word simply on a whim, which is all the Yahweh spelling is, then they can deny the spelling of absolutely any other word in the entire Hebrew Bible.
http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-corrections/Yahweh-Jehova-YHVH.html
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It still seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well.. This is a Jewish lie, hoax.. Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still my right for all even for non Jewish persons too.

When Jesus was on earth, he kept the laws of Moses — but he also criticized them. Soon after he went back to heaven, his followers met to decide whether any Christians should keep the laws of Moses. The question came to the foreground when people who weren’t Jewish began to follow Christ: “Some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, ‘The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses’” (Acts 15:5).. Anyone who knew the teachings of Jesus would already know that unbiblical traditions were not required. They did not need to debate about Jewish traditions.

Jesus also said that the greatest among you would be the servant of you all (Matthew 23:11).

Jesus in the gospels asked Peter: “Peter, do you love me?”, to which his Apostle answered “ Yes.”Jesus then says: “Feed my flock.”

Jesus is calling upon his disciples not just to walk daily with him and listen to his daily words, he is also calling upon all of his disciples to respond always in love,  this Obedience is not works to earn salvation, but rather the result of our trust in the Lord. Obedience demonstrates our real trust, respect, and love. Obedience is the confirmation  of our spiritual condition.

If you personally do know Jesus Christ, the holy Spirit they will lead and guide you into all truth, and help you to keep away from sin.. something the ten commandments do not do.. If you personally do  not know Jesus Christ, the holy Spirit then what  does it matter as you are headed to Hell anyway. How do you recognize if a person is a true Christian, or what is a Christian? “

It is amazing how new testament Bible ignorant persons falsely dispute the facts about Jews, Israel and Messianic Jews.. The New Covenant, the New testament, has replaced the Old Covenant, the old Testament.. the New Covenant is not a continuation of the old but it’s substitute. Judaism, plus JEWS are now dead to God and is Satanic! “…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” —Revelation 2:9

MATT 22-35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

SO WHY DO MANY  NEGLECT THE REST OF THE NEW TESTAMENT? JESUS WAS ALSO TALKING TO A JEW SOLELY,

I KNOW OF ONLY TWO COMMANDMENTS  HE JESUS  ASKED US ALL TO OBEY, SO WHY ARE SOME CONTRADICTING JESUS AND CLAIMING THERE ARE OTHERS? REALLY.

Really now does Jesus” say to all if you love me keep my commandments, the MOSAIC Law and Jesus gave his disciples “a new commandment”and not the old commandments,

DO EVEN ANY OF THE APOSTLES CONFIRM THE OBSERVANCE OF THE DEAD NOW JEWISH LAWS?

Keeping the Sabbath,  This commandment has been one of the distinguishing features of the Jewish Religion. The Sabbath is meant to be about making life easy, but the Jews complicated matters by legislating what could or could not be done on the Sabbath. They created so many laws that the Sabbath became a burden to the people; rather than the blessing it was ordained to be.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/christians-pretenders-who-hold-to-the-saturday-sabbath/

It would be impossible for anyone to observe all the commands that are applicable to the Jews, of which there are 613 according to Maimonides And for the 613 commandments to be kept, the Temple at Jerusalem would have to be built and a priesthood and the system of sacrificial offerings would have to be instituted. The same one God rather destroyed.

For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell. (Acts 15:28–29)
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SEE ALSO http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/jews-israel-arabs-and-jesus-christ-the-bible/

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/how-to-pray-for-jerusalem-israel-jews/
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love God and to love one another

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One of the most Common way I can spot false Messianic Jews, non Christian Jews,  posts is their  comment of the need to be one.. to love God and to love one another..

Neglecting the  fact that we also do have to hold all of God’s truth..  even this… “:Instead of joining with unbelievers in a false unity for the so called sake of the world, we need to reject the ecumenical movement, come out from among them, and share the gospel with the lost, including the religious lost.  2 Corinthians 6:14,17 & 5:20 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers.  For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?  And what communion has light with darkness?, Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord.  Do no touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”  & Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us:  we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.  The unity that believers share with their Savior Jesus Christ and the Father in heaven, and the unity that they have with one another through the love of the Spirit is matchless, and we can disdain and reject the false unity striven for by the ecumenical movement which is driven by the devil.”  https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938

http://holdingforthhisword.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/unity-for-the-worlds-sake/

 

 

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23)

“And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” (1 John 5:11-12)

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” (1 John 5:20)

“Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press. And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.” (Luke 8:19-21)

Now for 2000 years the Catholic Church has not denied that man is sinful, Jesus is our Savior and lord, God nor have they denied the Trinity with Holy Spirit now as well.. but they need to remind themselves of the sinful part.. their other false teachings..

It is rather interesting that the false Roman Catholic doctrines regarding Mary mimics actual truth regarding Jesus Christ.

The Bible warns us about the “doctrines (teachings) of Devils (demons) that would enter the church in the last days, and the Catholic doctrines regarding Mary are also absolutely included here.

(1 Timothy 4:1) Satan is a great deceiver and his goal is to deceive your soul right into an eternal Hell!

The Roman Catholic teaching known as The Immaculate Conception (Mary being conceived without sin) is a DEMONIC IMITATION of the sinlessness of Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:21)

The Roman Catholic teaching of The Assumption (Mary was raised into heaven without dying) is a DEMONIC IMITATION of the actual ascension of Jesus Christ into heaven. (Luke 24:50-53, Acts 1:8-11)

The Roman Catholic teaching of Mary being the Queen of Heaven is a DEMONIC IMITATION of Jesus Christ being the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! (Deuteronomy 10:17, Psalm 136:3, 1 Timothy 6:15, Revelation 17:14, 19:16)

The Roman Catholic teaching of Mary as a mediator (mediatrix) is a DEMONIC IMITATION of Jesus Christ being the one and only mediator for mankind! (1 Timothy 2:5)

 

El-Elyon

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  Now when the Lord Jesus Christ, El-Elyon does not hold the highest position in your life, as God, Who is Creator of us all, he understands when we fail him and when we turn or mind and heart from him to mere false things, we need to turn still again back to Him – when we confess the sin – He El-Elyon is ready to forgive your failing. When you return ‘the most high place’ to Jesus Christ, the El-Elyon , the Lord and Savior and who again sits on the throne of your life, your relationship with Him Jesus, God, returns to the perfect place it was meant to be. He Jesus Christ is the Lord Most High. He is the El-Elyon.
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El-Elyon is only one of the names for God. Elyon is also used by some to refer to the creator God of the world they are referring to about without specifically saying “God” and why are they ashamed to mention the name God now?
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It also means “the Lord Most High.” This name is found in the Bible in Genesis 14:1-20 and Isaiah 14:13-14
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 El-Elyon is first used in Genesis 14. Two kings met Abraham as he was returning victoriously from battle. First, the king of Salem, named Melchizedek – meaning King of righteousness – blessed Abraham, saying “Blessed be Abram by the Lord Most High, Creator of heaven and earth. And blessed be the Lord Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand.” Abram gave Melchizedek one tenth of all his wealth but when Bera, king of Sodom, offered to let Abram keep all the goods belonging to Sodom, that he had retrieved in battle, Abram refused to take anything. Bera was an evil man, king of an evil city. Abram kept the Lord in the highest place in his life and he recognized His servant. However, he would not have anything to do with profit from an evil source.
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 It is further clear from the new Testament that Abraham here had a direct encounter with God or Jesus Christ .. so if you really want to know the fullness of God you have to accept Jesus Christ as your lord, Savior, baptizer of the Holy Spirit too.
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 Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: 21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
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The name, El-Elyon is used again in Isaiah 14. The king of Babylon the devil now he did not worship the One True God whom we now also know as Jesus Christ and aspired wrongfully to raise his throne above that of God Most High. Isaiah prophesized his fall
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. Isaiah 14. 1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,  4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.  24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.  29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.
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Now some people get hung up on an attribute of God and falsely make that name a God.. God’s roles are often mistakenly referred to as ‘names of God’, when really they are simply titles. See Psalms 83:18. Jesus is seen as taking on  various roles to accomplish his work while on earth (Isaiah 61:1-4).  
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A common title of God in the Hebrew old Testament  Bible is Elohim (Hebrew: אלהים), as opposed to other titles of God in Judaism. The Hebrew name of God—El: The word El comes from a root word meaning—might, strength, power. Sometimes referring to God and sometimes the mighty when used to refer to the true god of Israel, El is almost always qualified by additional words that further define the meaning that distinguishes Him from false gods.; In Exodus 6:3, when Moses first spoke with God, God said, “I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as El Shaddai, but I did not make myself known to them by My Name YHWH.” Almost all Orthodox Jews avoid using either Yahweh or Jehovah altogether The resulting substitute made from semivowels and glottals, known as the tetragrammaton, is considered the proper name of God in Judaism, and is not ordinarily permitted to pronounce it aloud, even in prayer. The prohibition on misuse (not use) of this name is the primary subject of the command not to take the name of the Lord in vain.; It is  a the Jewish practice of substituting the spoken Hebrew word ‘Adonai’ (translated as ‘Lord’) for YHWH when read aloud.; 
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YHWH (pre-incarnate) and Yeshua (incarnate) are one and the same, the second Person, with the Father and Ruach haQodesh (the Holy Spirit) being the first and third Persons, respectively, of ha’Elohiym (the Godhead). YHWH is thus expressed as “haShem,” which means ‘the Name.’
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Now the English name “Jesus” has absolutely no pagan connection and is simply a derivation of “Yesous,” the Greek transliteration of “Yeshua.” 
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The Messiah’s Hebrew name is usually transliterated as either Yeshua or Yahshua.  The proponents of the Yahshua form claim that the Messiah’s name was the same as Joshua’s, written [vwhy or [wvwhy (Strong’s #3091). The only problem is that neither of these Hebrew spellings of Joshua’s name can possibly be pronounced “Yahshua.” The third letter in Joshua’s name (reading from right to left) is the letter vav (w) and a vav cannot be silent. The letter vav must be pronounced as either a “v” or an “o” or an “u.” (In the case of Joshua, it takes an “o” sound, giving us “Ye-ho-SHU-a.” Strong’s confirms this pronunciation.) For a name to be pronounced “Yahshua,” it would have to be spelled [wv–hy, and no such name exists anywhere in the Hebrew Bible. Also the Greek Yesous is actually transliterated from this shortened Hebrew form, Yeshua, and not directly from the longer form Yehoshua. Why is the Yahshua form used by no one but Sacred Name believers and people who have been influenced by Sacred Name believers? Probably because no such name exists in the Hebrew Bible and, to my knowledge, no such name exists in any extra-Biblical Hebrew literature as people invented the name Yahshua to fit their theology.
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Jesus (Iesus, Yeshua, Joshua (Yahshua),the  name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which comes the English spelling Jesus. Christ means “the anointed” in Greek (Greek text: Χριστός). Khristos is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word Messiah;If you Really Love YESHUA , Jesus Christ  you would not lie and call Jesus solely now  by the Hebrew name but by his real title which was, Greek and is  is Jesus Christ.. note this at the time of Jesus Christ on earth he was not even called by his Hebrew name as the Roman soldiers did not let the Jews speak in Hebrew, but they spoke Greek, in fact Hebrew was not used for the next 2000 years almost till 1948.. so all these crooked, perverted, false people trying to appear more spiritual by using today a Hebrew title are obviously mentally disturbed, deceived..; In the Mormon cult  Father God’s name is Elohim   and Jesus name in his preincarnate state was Jehovah while the  Jehovah’s Witnesses  cult use the name Jehovah for God the Father as this is a commonly used rendition of the personal name YHWH (Hebrew: יהוה) as per the Holy Bible. Psalm 83:18 (Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 12:2 & 26:4) King James Version; for them God has only one name, Jehovah; 
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Both the lost going to hell Mormon and the Jehovah witnesses cults falsely they still do not recognize Jesus Christ as the sole God, A person does not need to know Hebrew and Greek linguistics in order to be spiritual;
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TRUE HOLINESS FIRSTLY LIES THROUGH QUESTONING EVERYTHING and comparing it firstly as to what the Bible, the Holy Spirit actually teach us… not mere man or the devil..
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The Sacred Name, Yeshua, YAHWEH EL ELYON , Messianic Jew and Hebraic R…oot Movements still are not only lacking, but often spiritually wrong and dangerous. To be more precise, their emphasis on isolated Old Testament verses and practices has been detrimental to true Christians to the degree that certainly some have lost their salvation by trying to be justified by the law of Moses (Gal. 5:2-4) and moving away from Jesus Christ.
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  If you try to keep part of the Law you are required to keep it all (Gal. 5:3).
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  “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are [trying to be] justified by the Law; ye are fallen from grace” (Gal. 5:4).
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(Rom 10:1 KJV) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
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  (Rom 1:20 KJV) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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  (Jer 8:7 KJV) Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/galatianism2.htm
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I HATE LYING

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So  “The only thing I  am aware of you can’t be forgiven of is blaspheming the holy spirit. ” and if you continue to use your own free will to reject God, rebel against God, to do your own thing, continue in sin, you likely will next up in hell also.. miss Heaven like the foolish virgins who had let their oil in their lamp run out.

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“As far as eternal life.. once you become saved you will still make it into heaven no matter what sins you commit. This means, for example, that if you go on a drug and alcohol bender and die in bed with a whore you will still get into heaven, as long as you were saved at one time. Anyone who knows scripture will realize that the Bible does not support this bogus belief. God’s word in no way supports this foul doctrine In Matthew 10:22, 24:13 & Mark 13:13 Jesus Himself tells us “he that endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” The word endure comes from the Greek word hupomeno, meaning to bear up or persevere under sufferings and persecutions. If we are going to get into heaven regardless of what we do then why would it be necessary for our Savior Himself to tell us to persevere? The carnal Christian has to twist verses and take them out of context to try to make them fit their unholy creed. people who pick and chose verses without consulting the Holy Spirit are in grave danger as the Bible says he who endures to the end is saved.. It is interesting many of these people also falsely thinks the miracles of Jesus ceased today, the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit are also unreal and why cause they are lead by a false, wrong spirit.

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A righteous man hateth lying… -Proverbs 13:5

…Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good -Romans 12:9

I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love. -Psalm 119:163

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Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. -1 Corinthians 15:50

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This verse is very clear in what it is saying, to get to heaven we must die to the flesh

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17) And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18) Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19) Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20) Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not high-minded, but fear: 21) For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest He also spare not thee. 22) Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in His goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

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Love and salvation are both gifts from God but they are two different gifts. Because of His love for us while we were yet sinners, Romans 5:8, (implying that we should no longer be sinners) God gave us the gift of salvation, all we have to do is accept it. We are the only thing that can separate ourselves from the love of our creator, not even God can do that. We have the ability to turn our back on God and decide to deny Him. We are told a number of times in the bible that God created us with free will. We have the free will to follow God or deny Him and this applies both before and after salvation.

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One verse that clearly shows that we can lose our salvation is found in Revelation 3:5. But as with any scripture it must be read in context. To do that we must read the verses leading up to it. In this case we should use the entire letter to the church of Sardis.

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1) And to the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. 2) Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. 3) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4) Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5) He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before His angels. 6) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. -Revelation 3:1-6

“”overcometh.” This comes from the Greek word ‘nikeo” meaning to be victorious or to prevail. Jesus is telling us here that if we can prevail then we will be clothed in white raiment and those that are clothed in white will walk with Him because they are worthy. But what is it that we need to overcome? What we need to overcome is not the devil; Jesus has already beaten him for us. What we need to fight tooth and nail to overcome, to fight till the shedding of blood to overcome, is the flesh. Carnal Christians have given up the fight and let the flesh rule; they have grieved the Holy Spirit, rejected God and let the flesh have free reign in their lives. In order to justify the fact that they can give in to the flesh and still say that they are following God, carnal Christians have invented a false doctrine and attempt to force it into a select few bible verses.””

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Face some real truths rather

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Now any honest, intelligent persons knows that the dispensationalists, a new religion of only 200 years are so wrong on so many pints in fact, the they contradict what most of Christianity was preaching the last 2000 years  It is very clear that the Darby  the founder of the Plymouth Brethren, Dispensationalist  Christians to compensate for their failure to try to convert Jewish persons have come up with false reasons for not doing so as well

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IT IS REALLY SAD THE DIFFER SO MANY FROM MANY CHRISTIANS AND SO MANY DOCTRINES NOW TOO AS THEY ARE CLEARLY FOLLOWING THE WRONG SPIRITS. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

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https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938

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It should be evident to many people that

 
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It should be evident to many people that too many even Jewish persons, Messianic Jews included now too,  still do cut and paste, chose Bible verse they like and cut out , they falsely do reject the ones they do not like, misunderstand and/or try to rewrite the Bible to suit their own liking, they have re-interpret Bible verses for their own purposes, as they now are false revisionists. The supreme New Testament has replaced the Old Testament and the New Testament clarifies what is no longer applicable in the old Testament, all Judaism included.
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Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND“ Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me“ Exodus 20:5
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GOD NOT ONLY KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL IN 70 AD.. BUT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST HE CHANGED THE WORLD’S CALENDAR, PROCLAIMING HIS NEW ERA AND TODAY IS 2012 AD, AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
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Lasting peace unity for all Jews can only occur by all accepting our God Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, and to Love God, love others, be not drunk with wine, be filled with the Holy Spirit, do not lie or steal.. or slander, abuse others..
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All National Jews will always be far from any right to the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone!
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Can anyone do or say anything that disagrees with mighty Israel without being labeled as ” Unloving” Un Christina” Unkind” “anti-Semitic”?? The all-powerful “anti-Semitism” card that has again too often been been played against me the force of a blunt object; for when these Jewish patriots don’t like what I say they start their personal slanders, personal; attacks, name calling against me.. I know that the Jews were once “God’s Chosen People” and the rest of us we still are just whatever… but when Israel behaves like a violent psychopathic bully and someone mentions it that does NOT make them anti-Semitic. ” and the right of free speech is not for the Jews only now too..
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Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labeled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ” THEY BOTH FALSELY DO PREACH THEIR VERSION OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW OVER LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR TOO! And for the record, their troubled history is not a license for them to act with impunity now.
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Yes it still seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well..
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of those many mansions there are in Heaven no unsaved Jew lives the
re, or Messianic Jews only the born from above Christians. The Messianic Jews seek “Harmony among people and the planet is out goal”.. is rather also new age goal and occultist goal, and the goal of the antichrist too too.. and it will never happen.. never.. Become one with real Jesus Christ rather still..
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1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
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2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
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7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
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1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
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14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
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Revelation 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
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9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
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Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
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15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
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Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
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19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book
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Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels.
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Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
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9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.
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Luke 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
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I am a Holy Spirit filled toungue speaking Pentecostal pastor for decades, fully Baptized with the Holy Sprit and fully in communication with God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and I am not ashamed to quote his words too.. and how about you where is your real Christian evidence showing.. Now repent for real, and do get the Lord Jesus Christ Salvation for real too..
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Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still my right for all even for non Jewish persons too.
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OH HEAR YOU ISRAEL, YOUR ONCE INVISIBLE GOD WAS MADE VISIBLE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST TO YOU AND HIS HOLY SPIRIT THERE WILL NO NO NEW JEWISH TEMPLE NOW TOO.. ONLY THE NEW HEAVENLY JERUSALEM.. STOP READING, LISTEN TO THE DEVIL’S LIES, READ YOUR BIBLE AND PRAY, ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TEACH YOU
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It is naturally impossible for Judaism, Islam, messianic Judaism and Christianity to be considered as all acceptable as they are very different.. Even Judaism is now dead to God. Matthew 24:1 – 25:46 The Olivet Discourse purpose is to reveal events of the near and distant future.
(1) prophetically: Jesus foretells the Roman conquest of Jerusalem and the Temple that occurred in A.D. 70. His predictions about this catastrophe and the tribulations leading up to it are expressed in the apocalyptic language of the OT prophets, which is often cryptic and symbolic. The effect is to show that Jerusalem’s doom will be an event of world-shaking consequence in the divine plan of salvation.
(2) Typologically: the devastation of the Temple, which stood as an architectural Jewish Nationalism, and anticipates in the future next the New Heavenly Jerusalem and eventually the fiery dissolution of heaven and earth and the coming of Christ when Jesus comes again in glory to judge the living and the dead (2 Pet 3:10-13; Rev 20:11-15; CCC 585-86).
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2 Timothy 2: 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, ‘Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?’ But he answered and said to him, ‘Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it. And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.
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The fig tree is the symbol of the nation of Israel.. the Romans destroyed the temple and all of it’s record in 70 ad. Judaism was now dead to God because..
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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
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Many persons sadly still do lie, Bible expositors and preachers AND JEWS, MESSIANC JEWS now also, now they lie when they use a part of the Bible to try to put forth their false pet doctrines while even neglecting the rest of the Bible specially the New Testament.
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“There are also now no Bible verses that say, ‘There is going to be a third temple.’” Actually, the Bible does not say that a Temple must be built before Christ can return. Nor does the Bible teach that the building of the Temple, or talk and rumors about a Temple being built, are a sign of Christ’s return. The Bible teaches that there are no signs of Christ’s coming, Acts 1:7, Matthew 24:36-42, 1 Thessalonians 5:2. There is a false notion that the impending construction of the 3rd Temple will soon usher in Christ’s return and bring an end to all our earthly problems and trials. Naturally, this type of escapist thinking is popular with the Bible ignorant, uncommitted masses, but as we have seen, but still there is no Scriptural basis for it. A Jewish temple does not help to disciple Christians; rather, it only propagates “Jewish fables” of the type that Paul tells us to reject, Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
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Since the time of Christ’s death on the Cross, there has been no need anymore for any earthly Temple nor will there ever be one.. Matthew 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
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Nowhere in the Bible are we commanded to work for the construction of any Temple – our orders are to plant New Testament Christian churches, and not any false Jewish temples, Matthew 28: 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
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Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY
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There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too. after their second dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even for the Jewish return in 1948.. Do try prove me wrong..
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Jesus, who is God clearly said to all persons now.. JN 15:4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much …fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 15:6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
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Jews and many others now have to falsely have to resort to lies and the past fulfilled promises of a return even-
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Revelation 21:22 clearly says now, teaches that there will be no Temple in the Millennium: “And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” Also in the New Testament we are told in Hebrews 7:11-18 that God has permanently set aside the priesthood of the descendants of Levi, in favor of the priesthood of Christ, a non-Levite.
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Also under the New Covenant, circumcision is not required, Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
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THESE FALSE JEWISH LOVERS CANNOT DEBATE THE FACTS HERE, THE NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE, CANNOT QUOTE APPROPRIATE NEW TESTAMENT VERSES TO DISPROVE ANYHING I HAVE SIAD.. ALL THEY CAN DO IS RESORT TO FALSE PERSONAL ATACKS HERE TOO.. SO TYPICALLY JEWISH TOO.
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Christian and Jewish Zionism is a false movement that seeks a spiritual and national restoration of Israel, the land of the Jewish people. Specifically, these Zionists falsely still do believe that the Jews have a divine right to the real estate it formerly possessed during the reign of King Solomon, based on the promises that God made to Abraham
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Christian Zionists falsely also believe that, once Israel’s land is restored and its ancient borders are secured, Christ will come again to rule with the Jews in Israel for a millennium.
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Zionists now have no documented legal legitimate heritage or inheritance after the destruction of all records in the Jerusalem temple in 70 ad . None can prove of whom he is the son, so Zionists even now have no legitimate lineage. Even the common Scripture used by heretics to justify a “Jewish home” is Genesis 12:26 “I will bless those who bless thee, and curse those who curse thee.” This scripture refers however now solely to the justification of the heathen (Gentiles) in Christ, those who are called by the name Christians. Zionism is based on the faulty assumption that God still owes the Jews the land He promised to give to Abraham’s descendants.
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“…For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel… That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God” (Romans 9:6,8).
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“For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outwar
d in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” —Romans 2:28,29
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“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” —Galatians 3:28
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Galatians 3:1 (God) redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, SO THAT by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
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Jude 1:3 Beloved, my whole concern was to write to you in regard to our common salvation. [But] I found it necessary {and} was impelled to write you and urgently appeal to {and} exhort [you] to contend for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints [the faith which is that sum of Christian belief which was delivered verbally to the holy people of God.
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Matthew 21: 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to It is clear from this declaration by Jesus that the Jews are no longer being blessed by God, no longer the chosen ones, even if they do falsely deny this.. Jews who reject Jesus as the Jewish Messiah are consequently condemned by God, forfeiting the promises otherwise due to them under the covenants.; have forfeited any covenantal status. The Christian Church is the sole the inheritor of the promises made with the children of Israel.;
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Cessation, Supersessionism and replacement theology or fulfillment theology are the true Christian interpretations of New Testament Covenant and viewing God’ . The Christian Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. As the Christian the church is a continuation of Israel (replacement/covenant theology), Also, covenants made with Israel are fulfilled in the Christian church
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There are no Biblical remaining prophecies concerning Israel to be fulfilled before Jesus returns. The New Testament Bible does not contain any prophecy concerning Israel today, except that she will continue to “fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled” (Luke 21:24).
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No Christians should be focusing upon the Middle East today; but rather, upon preaching the Full Gospel to the world (Matthew 28:19,20). We are also now to love all people, of all nations, of all races
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NOT SURPRISING THAT JEWISH LOVERS TURN TO HATRED WHEN YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM AND SHOW THE WHOLE WORLD WHAT THEY ARE REALY LIKE STILL.. DEMONIC

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see also https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

Jesus has set me free..

(Job 28:28 KJV) And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

(2 Chr 19:7 KJV) Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts

(1 Cor 9:27 KJV) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Beware also always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc., I do not have to accept any of the negative consequences, or bad acts of other persons and their sins too. That includes their verbal abuse, physical abuse, slander, lies, emotional abuses, their false silent treatment too now. etc.. I can even tell them that now too.

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over

Is 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have love, pity, {and} mercy for him, and to our God, for He will multiply to him His abundant pardon. 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

Is 56:10 watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge; they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, they love to slumber.

I still am often amazed how many control freaks I do encounter, and yes often they can also be found in schools, homes, work, church, governments, elsewhere too.. these are people who often claim they are giving you some helpful hints, tips, advice but are trying to manipulate you to do something they rather want. “there’s no one answer to abuse…..here is one that helps you till God deals with the other person.. he often takes them far away from you, and some even die early.. or they do next suffer really bad…  control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with.  “Those who demand the most often give the least.” Ask them to send you something or do something for you. By asking something of them, you will be indicating that you are not intimidated or diminished by their behavior patterns. In order to not feel degraded, humiliated and have your sense of self and self worth assaulted, you need to avoid being bulldozed by a controlling lover, boss or friend. When you are caught up in a truly destructive/controlling attachment, the best response may still also still be to expose them and to call the police and also walk out.  We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser OR THESE pretentious persons.. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons seems to be most effective way that works for everyone’s benefit in dealing with the bad acts of others still. While too too do   believe in all things work for the best for those who love God, but I rebuke all evil persons rightfully still.. I do not accept rightfully their abuse of me or the others. Here is my reality.. Control freaks are demonic persons, led by the devil, who try to abuse us and to  bring us into bondage, and they tend to get a lot more crazy, get a lot worse..  Jesus has set me free.. from even being hooked to sins, and also from the bondage, the false oppression, enslavement by others.. sadly many other people want to be still enslaved but not me, I have really experienced freedom, I know what it is like, and I want to maintain my full freedom by God’s permission, help, now too. When I think about being set free I often do think about two images, visions that God has given me typically.. an all black, dark picture that turns to a normal scenery… and a picture of a large snake coming at me the size of a train which next disappears instead..
Many people rightfully practice tough  love.. Being nice or kind, friendly  to a really bad person  is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see   no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the  sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser..
Establish Boundaries, Set Limits, Set detachment.  One example of setting a boundary is telling a close friend, even a loved one  that you prefer they not be around you if they are smoking,  drunk or high. Notice that it is specific demand, and you have to sit down and communicate this type of request explicitly with that someone. Setting a boundary like this is difficult because there is this tendency to hurt other’s feelings. But that is part of what is keeping you ineffective– your caring more about this person’s feelings than your own personal well being. Setting boundaries is about putting your own personal well being and even that of others first, and letting that be a guiding example of how to live. You know you are setting effective boundaries when you are taking back control of your own life firstly and starting to regain your own sanity–instead of being all wrapped up in the problems of a struggling smoker, rebel, drug addict or alcoholic.
 
“Here are some more  things that you can do in order to practice detachment with the struggling pervert in your life: -Don’t do things that they should be doing themselves. -Don’t bend over backwards to rescue them or save them from natural consequences. -Don’t cover up for their mistakes or embarrassing situations. -Don’t rescue them from crisis or financial situations. -Don’t try to fix them. -Let go of any guilt you may have about them
Detachment is not about denying your emotions. If someone close to you dies, for example, you will probably feel sad. You can’t choose this feeling. It simply is. But we do have the power to affect the intensity of this feeling, by focusing on the positive aspects of the situation. We can also change our thinking in an attempt to eradicate irrational beliefs that might be contributing to our emotional turmoil.
The goal is not to go without emotions, the goal is to achieve some level of emotional stability. We are detaching from the negative, irrational thoughts that stir up our emotions–like the guilt we might have if we think someone’s perversity, addiction is our fault.
Detachment is difficult and takes practice.”
  
Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.
ALCOHOL and drugs now are still a sin, A VICE AND NOT A NECESSITY . and a lot of criminal activity linked to drug addiction, alcohol too.
 
Some persons rightfully maintain that prison,  job termination are still the main and best solution to this problem of alcoholics, drug abuses too .. for my being kind to the UNREPENTANT wicked, bad, no good persons is really now still a complete waste of time, energy, effort for without real negative consequences neither they or the others tempted to follow them they will not tend to readily positive change, for their own good or the good of others.
(Isa 26:10 KJV)  Let favour be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.11 LORD, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them.
 
(Hab 2:5 KJV)  Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
I have really also learned  from personally observing many persons the last 35 years that there tends to be no such thing as a little bit pregnant,  that to open the barn door a little bit,  left unrestrained, undisciplined, unsupervised, means  the barn door next  will eventually swing wide open.. and when any person tends to personally allow, start a little acceptable vice, abuse, eventually the other even bigger vices, abuses  do now also tend to grow, develop there as well..  and yes while some deny it they too all thus next can be easily discovered, even though the guilty persons too often  will deny this.. and this includes even now next the vices of pre-marital sex, sodomy, polygamy, alcoholism, gambling,  adultery,  drunkenness, bingeing, gluttony, gouging, self-destructive behaviors, selfishness, indifference, apathy, jealousy, anger, hate,   envy,   rudeness, irritability or grudges , lust, cussing, cheating , addiction, shoplifting, stealing, tax evasions and even the others abusive behaviors of bullying, racism, discrimination, pride, lying.  Many people lie to others and falsely deny they have a personal problem. You see one of the major problem about lying is one next tends to believe in one’s own lie as being the truth when they   still are not the truth, and one does do becomes personally partially often next even insane for lying.  …  And most people still do even lie every 3 to 5 minutes they undeniably say? But some person lie a lot more than others, a lot more.. even to themselves , others and to the courts especially. it is not just all the men now that are supposedly the bad guys. in reality men and women are still equal sinners according to God still too and both lie, sin. One of the major problem about lying is one next tends to believe in one’s own lie as being the truth when they still are not… Most of the liars  still are wrongfully not willing to take any personal responsibility, accountability for their own faults, their own shortcomings now next  too and project wrongfully their faults, problems even on the others

 

The real, root problem often is not the alcohol, or the drugs themselves, alone but rather one honestly dealing with themselves and their own real shortcomings  still too.The basic secret of all successful substance abuse termination programs are accepting personal responsibility, personal accountability,  the individual first personally has to admit he or a she  has done wrong, also admits he or she now does needs help,  admit that they is willing to take the help.. all three aspects are required still too. An appropriate real self examination on their own part is always needed firstly here  for it is also their  own real bad personal acts,  and related guilt that next contributes, contributed to his or  her own poor self image, fears, additional  problems..  especially more when things did not go the way he or she had planned beforehand . 
 
Do face it the person who takes bad drugs, alcohol does take it willingly and he or she should also suffer real negative consequences for his poor personal choice here on earth still too, especially when his or her choice harms anyone else.
  
The Public exposure and prosecutions of the guilty persons starting rightfully at the top, but goes down to the bottom as well  serves everyone’s best interest and is continually mandatory for everyone’s best and good welfare.
 
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. …. but their supposed repentance does not automatically exclude their negative consequences still
  
(Prov 22:1 KJV)  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.
 
Can a Person change themselves? Is there hope for anyone? Only if they follow God’s rules!! Accepting Jesus! and we all should look in hope at the calendar.. 2008 ad.. 2008 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ… so undeniably off an event it even changed the calendar history too.

(Mat 4:17 KJV)  From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Biblical repentance is admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God,  and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition,   change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also  a personal, ongoing event. http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/repent-for-the-kingdom-of-heaven-is-at-hand/

We all have an equal right to speak and to be heard..

Luke 2:39-52

[39] When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. [40] And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon him.

[41] Every year his parents went to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Passover. [42] When he was twelve years old, they went up to the Feast, according to the custom. [43] After the Feast was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it. [44] Thinking he was in their company, they traveled on for a day. Then they began looking for him among their relatives and friends. [45] When they did not find him, they went back to Jerusalem to look for him. [46] After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. [47] Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers. [48] When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”

[49] “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?” [50] But they did not understand what he was saying to them.

[51] Then he went down to Nazareth with them and was obedient to them. But his mother treasured all these things in her heart. [52] And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.

It is really sad that desperate, oppressed sheep want to believe anything without checking directly with God, Jesus,  the Holy Spirit first. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Revelation 16
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

The devil wants us to be ostriches, to take his false abuses and to falsely shut up.. but no way,, we all still do have a right to speak and to be heard.

But  we serve God and not ourselves, we are only God’s  servants.. doing that which he God  has commanded us to do

Matthew 10
27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

Luke 1
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

Romans 6
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 7
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Hebrews 12
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Revelation 7
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

2 Peter 2
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Luke 7
22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

and he Jesus was prophetically telling us to tell the Baptists that Jesus still heals today too ehh

Matthew 21
6 And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them,

Mark 13
34 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

Luke 17
9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.

Acts 1
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

Acts 10
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

Acts 13
47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Matthew 23
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Matthew 25
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Luke 17
10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Matthew 5
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Philippians 4
13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

 

Hebrews 6

10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;

James 5

11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

1 John 1

1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

2 John 1

8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.

 

ETERNAL SECURITY

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NOW WHY OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS IT THAT SOME ARE TRYING SO HARD TO PROVE ETERNAL SECURITY TO OTHERS IF THIS WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS POINT? WHILE ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE US FROM OUR SINS, ETERNAL SECURITY IS STILL A FARCE, A NEW DOCTRINE OF ONLY  THE LAST 2000 YEARS INVENTED BY THE BRETHREN DISPENSATIONALIST REV JOHN DARBY AS IT HAS NOT EVEN A PART OF CHRISTIANITY THE 1800 YEARS BEFORE THAT NOW TOO

NEVER MIND YOUR MERE HUMAN ARGUMENTS SHOW HOW MUCH YOU REALLY KNOW THE BIBLE.. QUOTE YOUR APPLICABLE  VERSES THEN.. AS ETERNAL SECURITY IS A BIG DEMONIC LIE.. IF YOU BELIEVE IN IT THE DEVIL HAS YOU POSSESSED NOW AND NOT GOD. THE SAME PERSONS WHO BELIEVE THAT ONE IS ETERNALLY SECURED TEND TO ALSO FALSELY BELIEVE THAT NO CHRISTIAN CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED.. WHAT A MOUTHFUL. YOU CAN SEE WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THEY CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED..

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

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These abusive, immoral rather Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only, are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too.. The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted and not accepted by main stream Christianity too. The dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.”

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-Romans 16:17-18 KJV “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” -Jude 1:3-4 The Brethren oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit. “But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8.

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The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is still also unacceptable Dispensationalism is a system of theology that was first popularized by John Nelson Darby, 19th century British evangelist and forerunner of modern Christian fundamentalism. The false Scofield Reference Bible, written by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, popularized dispensationalism in the United States. The world’s Jews must return to Israel for a dispensational interpretation of prophecy to be fulfilled.

In the Bible, there are several passages in which God promises us the gift of eternal life, and the Bible also makes it perfectly clear that we can never earn that gift. However, a problem develops when people start to think that they don’t need to show any responsibilities towards God’s gift of salvation. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand” (Ezekiel 3:19-20).

Clearly everyone who’s under God’s grace needs to accept that dreaded word, “responsibility.”

• “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?” (Matthew 7:21-22).

•”Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils” (1 Timothy 4:1).

•”And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book (Exodus 32:33).

•”He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels” (Revelation 3:5).

•”For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame” (Hebrews 6:4-6).

•”And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46).

I failed to spot any exemptions allowing Christians to ignore God’s warnings:

•”Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him” (1 John 3:15).

•”This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away” (2 Tim 3:1-5).

•”But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8).

•”For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (2 Peter 2:20-22).

•”But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat” (1 Corinthians 5:11).

In America, about 84 percent of its citizens claim to be “Christians,” and a reported 57 percent belong to a church. When asked if they think they’ll be going to heaven, more than 90 percent of Americans believe that heaven will be their final destination.

Despite this people’s overwhelming optimism, Jesus, in Matthew 7:13-14, said that few would be saved. I’ve been asking people what they believe all my life, and I’ve found a very large portion of society holds to some form of the once-saved-always-saved doctrine.

The also bizarre argument that the eternal security crowd propagates is the idea that once you decide to become a Christian, you can never change your mind. Once you’re in, there’s no escape. From what Bible did this cultic teaching come? Certainly not the one I’m using.

The Apostle Peter says in 2 Peter 2:21 that it would “had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” Not only did Peter say that believers can turn away, but he said it would be better for them to not have become aware of something that would end up haunting them throughout all eternity.

One excuse I hear a lot in an attempt to explain how someone can seem to fall away is the statement that “these people never really believed in the first place.” I have known people who were saved miraculously, yet they fell away. If their salvation wasn’t legitimate, then I’d have to doubt honesty of every of all confessions. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians not only fall away, they admit to doing so cause Jesus did not give them all their wants, desires, needs next too.

all who believe on Eternal Security agree that salvation is secure for eternity because they truly repented and saved to become a believer sometime in the past even though they act like immoral pigs now too.. Eternal security is not a doctrine on it’s own. It has a supporting doctrine called “Faith Only” doctrine which teaches no works are required. This is primarily because, many of these clearly still Bible ignorant persons they do not properly discern the faith / works mentioned by Paul’s letters and in the book of James. Rom 4:2-5) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Jas 2:21-24) Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Eternal security supporters say, A person can be saved (present tense) through faith, not of works, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8, 9).

We need to look into the text carefully and with context. They ignore overlook the next verse esp., verse 10 which says “in Christ”.

(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

But if someone rejects Christ anytime along the way, he will also not receive eternal life.

(Rom 6:22-23) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Eternal security supporters say, True faithful converts will never reject Christ. If they reject, they were never truly saved.

Let us see what the scripture say.

(1Tim 4:1) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

(Heb 10:38-39) Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

How can someone depart from faith if they had not already in faith? Drawing back from what? Scripture says yes, we can walk away.

 (Matthew 7:19) “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Passages demonstrating that salvation is conditional upon continued faith:

You were once alienated from God – your very thoughts were hostile towards Him and your deeds were evil. Yet God has now made peace with you through the death of Christ in His physical body so that you may stand before Him as holy, without blemish and free from accusation – [this you will do] if you remain solidly grounded and firmly fixed in the faith, and un-moved from your hope in the gospel . . . Colossians 1:21-23

Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with Him, we will also live with Him; if we persevere, we will also reign with Him. If we disown Him, He will also disown us; If we are faithless, He will remain faithful, for He cannot disown Himself. 2nd Timothy 2:11-13

It is through this gospel that you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you – otherwise you have believed in vain. 1st Corinthians 15:2

We are of [Christ’s] household, if we hold fast to our courage and confidence in this hope. Hebrews 3:6

For we have all become partners of Christ, if we hold fast to our original conviction firmly to the end. Hebrews 3:14

2. Passages that warn us to protect our faith:

Examine yourselves to see whether you still stand steady in the faith. Put your qualifications [as Christians] to the test. Or didn’t you know this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is at home in you – if He’s not, then you are already disqualified. 2nd Corinthians 13:5

These things all happened [to the Exodus generation] by way of an example so that we might not lust after what is evil as they did. Don’t practice idolatry, as some of them did (as the scripture says “the people sat down to eat and got up to frolic”). Don’t fornicate, as some of them did, and 23,000 of them fell dead in a single day. And let’s not put the Lord to the test, as some of them did, and were killed by snakes. And don’t complain, as some of them did, and were killed by the destroying angel. All these things happened to them to give us an example, and have been written in scripture to warn us as we confront history’s final epoch. So let whoever thinks he’s standing firm be careful not to fall! 1st Corinthians 10:12

Watch out for yourselves, so you don’t lose what you’ve worked so hard for, but receive a full reward instead. No one who goes wandering off – that is, does not keep to the teachings about Jesus Christ – has a share in God. 2nd John 8-9

I am the vine, you are the branches. If a man remains in Me and I in Him, he will bear much fruit; apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. John 15:5-6

3. Passages teaching that sinful behavior is antithetical to faith:

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies – and whatever is similar to all these things. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Galatians 5:19-21

Don’t you know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor practitioners of homosexuality nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1st Corinthians 6:9-10

But among you there must not even be a hint of sexual immorality, or any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse jesting – things that have no place [among you]. Thanksgiving [is what ought to be heard coming from you] instead. For of this you can be sure: no immoral, impure, or greedy person – such a man is an idolater – has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Don’t let anyone deceive you about this with empty words, for it is because of just such things that God’s wrath comes upon those who refuse to obey and believe. So don’t enter into partnership with them. Ephesians 5:3-7

Those who want to get rich fall into temptations, traps, and many senseless and harmful lusts – the kind which swamp men[‘s hearts] to their destruction and damnation. 1st Timothy 6:9

Take it or leave but that is what the Bible still says..

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB I HAVE BEEN A CHRISTIAN NOW FOR 50 YEARS AND A CHRISTIAN PASTOR FOR 30 YEARS AND FOR DECADES NOW TOO I HAVE MANY FACEBOOK AND INTERNET SITES DEALING WITH GOD, JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO I AM NOT NEW TO THE VARIOUS GAMES PEOPLE PLAY EVEN ON THE NET. and their lies..

I also do think the most flagrant problem with the “once-saved-always-save” doctrine is the notion that people can confess to be a Christians, and yet live a life so depraved that the devil himself would refuse to associate with them. Unfortunately, because of the new false doctrines such as eternal security, hell has had to enlarge itself to make room for the millions of lost souls who have been deceived into going there (Isaiah 5:14). “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him” (James 1:12). these people like Reggie seem to be able to endure anything but siining it seems…. by falsely slandering others who do not go laong with them even. But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22

Eternal LIFE brought through Jesus Christ is a gift. Even though this gift is free, it MUST be conditionally accepted.. KEEPING YOUR ETERNAL LIFE NEXT IS CONDITIONAL AS WELL AND IT CAN ALSO NEXT BE REJECTED, AS YOU STILL HAVE YOUR OWN FREE WILL SOMETHING THE LIARS FALSELY DO NOT TELL YOU AND WHY? THEY HAVE OTHER AGENDAS FOR YOU LIKELY TOO..YOUR NAME NEXT CAN STILL BE BLOTTED FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE IF YOU SIN CONDITIONALLY WITHOUT REPENTANCE.. AND THERE IS MUCH MORE TO KNOW TOO… Now Judas was a Christian,, follower of Jesus who became undeniably Demon possessed and next went to hell. you always have a free will and you chose what spirit you do still have next too. More correctly, the word translated “possession” should simply be rendered “demonized,” that is, under the influence of a demonThe Apostle Judas typifies for me what a BAD CHRISTIAN is really like.. Judas is infamously known for his kiss and betrayal of Jesus to the hands of the chief Sanhedrin priests in exchange for a payment of thirty silver coins andh His place among the Twelve Apostles was later filled by Matthias.; yet woe is upon him, and he would have been better unborn (Matthew 26:23–25). from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. ( Acts 1:25) Most Christians still consider Judas a traitor. Indeed the term Judas has entered many languages as a synonym for betrayer. so Judas does not appear in an of the Epistles of Paul, as He who endures to the end shall be saved..

Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Yes even the initially Holy Spirit filled Christian can falsely still oppose the Holy Spirit next. A GOOD INDICATION TO ME IS HOW ANY PERSON OR GROUPS STANDS NOW ITH JESUS CHRIST IS IN THEIR VIEW OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.. DO THEY SEE HIM AS GOD, DO THEY ALSO ADMIT, TALK ABOUT HIS GIFTS MINISTRY, PERSONALITY AS WELL NOW THAT IS SO TRUE WHEN THEY ARE WRONG IN SUCH A VITAL AREA THEY ARE NEXT WRONG IN SO MANY CAUSE THEY ARE STILL BEING LED BY THE SPIRIT OF DEMONS AND NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT Imagine that the Bible says a Christian can still have also an unclean spirit.. wow.. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. In Acts chapter 5, Ananias and Sapphira, members of the early church, lied to the apostle Peter. They had sold some possessions to give to the church, and then had second thoughts and conspired to keep back a portion for themselves. When Peter asked them what amount they had received for the sale, Ananias and Sapphira lied. What was the source of that lie? The apostle Peter said, “Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit” (verse 3). In judgment, God struck them dead. If we accept the assumption that Ananias and Sapphira experienced the new birth in Christ, yet how else can we explain away the fact that their hearts were filled by Satan to such an extent that they were capable of committing a sin worthy of such abrupt and severe divine judgment? Yeah right, human reason and human logic can easily say that salvation is a free gift, the Holy Spirit is also a separate free gift that comes after salvation. and so does even demonic possession for many persons now too… it is why why Apostle Paul Command you to be filled with the Holy Spirit even… If Christians cannot be possessed now how come this is one of my popular posting too..

 

By the way I cast out 2 demons out of two Christian people in my church after they had repented. .. one was the pastor’s daughter who committed fornication, and the other one HAD made a bind with Satan ..Like I said let the Holy Spirit teach you here not false men.. there is nothing good in men.

Before I first became involved in exorcisms, I too had assumed that a Christian was immune from the torment of demons. I based that assumption on the influence of other supposedly Christian leaders who convinced me of this. “The Holy Spirit and an evil spirit can’t dwell in the same vessel.” “Light and darkness cannot co-exist.” The Holy Spirit showed me otherwise..

Anyone searching the Word of God more diligently about the matter of demons influencing Christians, can see that the issue wasn’t as conclusive as most people had thought.

The pastors and Bible teachers who had repeatedly reinforced the “Christians can’t have a demon” outlook had very little practical experience with the phenomenon. Clearly even the lack of experiential testimony about such a crucial area of spiritual deliverance was a glaring weakness.. People who are not even filled, baptized with the Holy Spirit falsely want to teach someone who is? absurd!

Man is a tripartite being (1 Thessalonians 5:23), and there are aspects of the human body, soul, mind that Satan can always occupy. While he is prohibited from touching the spirit of God’s saints, nothing prevents him from possessing, tormenting the body and soul-if the disobedient conduct of a Christian allows him to do so. 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

If you continue to sin the last verse does not apply. Casting a demon out of a believer is practiced in many , many churches today as well, I have been to a few of them too.

In Ephesians 4:23 Christians are admonished to “be renewed in the spirit of your mind.” If even the mind of the Christian needs renewal, then it stands to reason that when our minds are not renewed, they may be, to some degree, under the control of the ungodly forces.2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

Active and not passive resistance towards the devil is always required. “Present your bodies a living sacrifice,” we read in Romans 12:1. This means our bodies may not be completely sacrificed to God, and could therefore be CONTROLLED by Satan. James 4: 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Demon possession includes a demon having direct/complete control over the thoughts and/or actions of a person possessed. What you do not believe a dog can return to his vomit?

2 Peter 2: 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Matt 12: 43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Demonic “possession” means a demon can manifest through the host’s faculties-that is, see with the eyes, speak through the vocal cords, and even subject the person to a trance state of mental oblivion. Deliverance comes when the demon inside is cast outside.

What about those instances in which a demon manifests in a Christian? In most cases the demon likley had entered before the believer’s conversion to Christianity some say, and the evil spirit continued to control some part of the person’s life because the specific occult sin was never renounced. The demon claims squatter’s rights.

 

How Does Possession Come About? Uncontrolled anger, Unforgiveness, Fear, Unbelief, sexual immorality, impaired, drunkeness, occult involvement, cursing others, witchcraft , etc.

“If you’re a Christian and you don’t think you can have a demon – You have a demon,”

Demon possessed by a tormentor.. God’s spirit in King Saul was replaced by an evil spirit 1 Samuel 16:14 14But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15And Saul’s servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles you. 16Let our lord now command your servants, which are before you, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is on you, that he shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. … .Saul was afflicted with “an evil spirit” as a punishment for his insistent defiance of God’s will. He had committed flagrant violation of God’s commands on two previous occasions (1 Samuel 13:13-14; 15:11,19).

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him..

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? The devil by nature is a murderer (John 8:44). His rebellion against God changed his character and has made him a force that naturally kills and destroys all that comes under his power.

So, what about the sending of evil spirits by the Lord? This may be more common in scripture than you think. In Psalm 78:49, God judged Israel “by sending evil angels among them.” In Judges 9:23, “God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem.” In 1Kings 22:22, God sent a “lying spirit” in the mouth of the false prophets to send Ahab to his death. In the passage in question (1Samuel 16:14-15), God removed His Spirit from the disobedient Saul. This opened the door for an evil spirit to come and torment Saul. Though in this passage, it is only the servants of Saul that said the evil spirit was from the Lord, in other passages (1Samuel 18:10; 19:9), the text states that the evil spirit came from the Lord. When God removes His protective hand,the Lord allowed or permitted the distressing spirit to come upon Saul, he often turns the person over to Satan for destruction or to an evil spirit for torment. The devil and the evil spirits do the work, but God has allowed them to do what come natural to them for His own purpose.He uses evil to chastise evil” I know this concept it is thoroughly established in scripture. God does not commit wickedness, but He uses the wicked for His purpose. In the end, God will have His glory. How much better it is for us to submit to Him and obey Him willingly.

 

if Christ is the olive tree than you do not need to renews your mind because Christ will do it for you, just like the olive tree renews it branch. therefore you cannot BE connected to Christ and not produce good fruits. HOW REALLY ABSURD.. YOU MEAN YOU ARE A ROBOT NOW, YOU DO NOT HAVE A FREE WILL, YOU CANNOT SIN? EVEN EVANGELICAL PASTORS SIN ALL THE TIME, COMMIT ADULTERY, STEAL AND WHAT YOU DENY THEY DO SIN EVEN HERE.. HOW REALLY ABSURD..

 

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

 

 1 Kings 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

 

2 Chronicles 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

 

Proverbs 19:2 Also, that the soul be without knowledge, it is not good; and he that hasteth with his feet sinneth.

 

Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

 

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

 

Ezekiel 33:12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

 

How Does Possession Come About? Uncontrolled anger, Unforgiveness, Fear, Unbelief, sexual immorality, impaired, drunkeness, occult involvement, cursing others, witchcraft , etc.

“If you’re a Christian and you don’t think you can have a demon – You have a demon,”

Demon possessed by a tormentor.. God’s spirit in King Saul was replaced by an evil spirit 1 Samuel 16:14 14But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15And Saul’s servants said to him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles you. 16Let our lord now command your servants, which are before you, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is on you, that he shall play with his hand, and you shall be well. … .Saul was afflicted with “an evil spirit” as a punishment for his insistent defiance of God’s will. He had committed flagrant violation of God’s commands on two previous occasions (1 Samuel 13:13-14; 15:11,19).

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him..

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? The devil by nature is a murderer (John 8:44). His rebellion against God changed his character and has made him a force that naturally kills and destroys all that comes under his power.

So, what about the sending of evil spirits by the Lord? This may be more common in scripture than you think. In Psalm 78:49, God judged Israel “by sending evil angels among them.” In Judges 9:23, “God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem.” In 1Kings 22:22, God sent a “lying spirit” in the mouth of the false prophets to send Ahab to his death. In the passage in question (1Samuel 16:14-15), God removed His Spirit from the disobedient Saul. This opened the door for an evil spirit to come and torment Saul. Though in this passage, it is only the servants of Saul that said the evil spirit was from the Lord, in other passages (1Samuel 18:10; 19:9), the text states that the evil spirit came from the Lord. When God removes His protective hand,the Lord allowed or permitted the distressing spirit to come upon Saul, he often turns the person over to Satan for destruction or to an evil spirit for torment. The devil and the evil spirits do the work, but God has allowed them to do what come natural to them for His own purpose.He uses evil to chastise evil” I know this concept it is thoroughly established in scripture. God does not commit wickedness, but He uses the wicked for His purpose. In the end, God will have His glory. How much better it is for us to submit to Him and obey Him willingly.

 

And there is no place in the Bible that conclusively says Christians can’t be possessed. But, on the contrary, there are passages that do indicate that demon possession of believers CAN occur when they backslide from God. 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. nNow we know Satan and devils do exist, we know they are unembodied spirits that work in the spiritual realm, they desire to and are able to indwell humans (also animals) and influence their bodies and minds for evil, they vary in power and authority, but all are more powerful than man, and they can be controlled or cast out by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ if you confess your sins and turn your life to Jesus, all of it..Demons have been here since the beginning of human history. The same demons that infiltrated the antediluvian civilization in the days of Noah are alive and active today. They have infiltrated every area of life from childhood to adulthood, from play to marriage, from sports to work.

In 1 Corinthians 6 and 7, Paul reprimanded the Church, the Christian strongly for their marital infidelity. 1 cor 6:1 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

 

Ephesians 4:32  NIV  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you AND ironically IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT THAT YOUR SINS ARE NOR FORGIVEN AUTOMATICALLY AS EVEN KING DAVID HAD  FOUND OUT, RATHER YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY BRING YOUR SINS TO GOD, CONFESS THEM AND ASK FOR THEIR FORGIVENESS..

 

Romans 6: 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

1 Corinthians 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

2 Cor 10:5 — “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;”

You can’t drink the Lord’s cup [of communion-fellowship] and the cup of demons. You can’t share in the Lord’s [communion-fellowship] table and the table of demons. 1st Corinthians 10:21

Like i had said Possession is only one of the common type of demonic attack and the Possession of even professing Christians is not as rare as some imagine, mind you they will likely too quickly say I am the one possessed and/or crazy not themselves ehh Funny… Christians can receive deliverance from the demon. The last decade has seen a major shift by Evangelicals away from a belief that Christians could not be demonized or demon possessed to a dominate view that a child of God can be demon possessed and thus may need periodic deliverance.

Is demon possession rare? Not according to scripture! Mark 1:34, “…cast out many devils…” Luke 4:41, “…devils also came out of many…” Acts 8:7, “For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them…” Mark 6:13, “…they cast out many devils…” Matthew 8:16, “…they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils…”

Jesus sent fourth 70 disciples to preach the gospel and cast out demons, and they returned full of joy as they could see that this was a very real and important ministry. Now for Jesus to send out 70 men and they come back with praise reports of deliverances… that tells us that even though they were on foot, there were plenty of people in their area that needed deliverance! Luke 10:17, “And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.”

The Bible speaks of different ranks of demons (Eph 6:12), and Jesus taught His disciples that some demons were so strong that they required a level of faith to cast them out that was only obtainable through prayer and fasting (Mark 9:29).

Aren’t all demons the same? Absolutely not; they all have their own personalities, just like people do. There are different demons that serve different functions, such as some people are doctors while others are lawyers, etc. Some demons cause loss of hearing and loss of eyesight (Mark 9:25), while others cause infirmities, and others cause fear and depression (1 Samuel 16:14, “Now the Spirit of the LORD had left Saul, and the LORD sent a tormenting spirit that filled him with depression and fear.” -NLT).

Do demons have names? Yes they do, just like God’s holy angels have names (Luke 1:19, Judges 1:9). Often, the name of a demon will give you a clue as to what it does, the function it preforms, or the role it plays. Some of the demons in the Bible are known as deaf, dumb, infirmity, etc. (Mark 9:25, Luke 13:11).

Can demons return to the person whom they left? Yes Jesus warns the ‘wicked generation’ (sinners) that the demon can return with 7 even worse demons and if you go back and re-open the door(s) that let the demon in, you are re-welcoming him back in.

It is interesting that some people falsely do oppose the deliverance Ministry for any Christians and they have chosen to sit in the seat of God to judge others but not themselves .

 

1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.;

Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person..

(2 Cor 2:11 KJV) Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.; “

Now no one still takes the place of God in my life.. and they never will..

Deliverance and Demon Possession is not a popular topic especially amongst those who are clearly possessed through pride or whatever..

Yes even Christians can receive deliverance from the demon. The last decade has seen a major shift by Evangelicals away from a belief that Christians could not be demonized or demon possessed to a dominate view that a child of God can be demon possessed and thus may need periodic deliverance.

Let God Judge them? I used to think like you.. But God already did and many times has asked me personally to go to the pastors and to ask them to repent of special sins and about 10 percent do, the rest go on with their evil ways and next eventually even found in church pastors were removed, lost their church..it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands into the living God. ..

Biblical repentance is admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God, and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. Bow God has commanded all men everywhere to repent.. True repentance is confession, contrition, change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also a personal, ongoing event. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.; While submission of one to another, or sharing , is voluntarily, unenforceable, and is a direct commandment of God there are many professing Christians, other Persons who think they now also are good, godly persons yet they still are actuality demon possessed, as evident by their self centeredness, false self pride, their lack of forgiveness towards others now too.. and they do exhibit the demonic controlling spirit even under the false guise of privacy, Also now you can also be sure there is a great abundances of other sins, wrong doings in their life, cause once they had opened the door to the devil he next took the whole house.. And call it what you may it is still a power hungry, controlling, oppressing evil spirit in them.

I would rather see a sermon preached over just hearing one preached.. I have now cast out of demons from Christians, even a Pastor’s daughter..

Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits

Christians can inherit curses from parents; Christians need deliverance from certain kinds of sins in addition to the forgiveness received at salvation; Christians need to speak or do things to protect themselves and their loved ones from the demonic; Christians can boss Satan around by rebuking, binding, taking authority over him, or running him out of town, usually by sundown, all in the name of Jesus; demons occupy territories because of specific sins of those people which supposedly have given a basis for the demonic stronghold, instead of by permission of the sovereign will of God. Matthew 18:18: “Truly I am telling you, whatever you may bind upon the earth shall be that which has already been bound in heaven; and whatever you may loosed upon the earth shall be that which has already been loosed in heaven” (literal translation).

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).

It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit. They are not automatic.. sin is automatic still even in many in many people’s lives.. and you need the power of the holy Spirit to overcome it..

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ephesians 5″:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. — 1 John 4:1

You really need to relook at the definition of what a Christians really is There is major ,major misunderstanding even in the church as to what it really means to be a saved Christian. We need to look at what the Bible itself says here firstly too…

To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One, Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”.

Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

(1 Chronicles 16:22-24 NKJV) Saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” {23} Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. {24} Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”

Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…

and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths. and they falsely try to say something typical like this now.. the big lie“If you check every single Biblical reference to the Anointing you should notice that ” There is not ONE SINGLE reference to the anointing being a supernatural power given to human by which they are able to perform miracles… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to anyone being able to transmit the anointing by any means, including the laying on of hands… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to getting, keeping, increasing, or losing the anointing.”

Mind you they these same liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with Bathsheba..

It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”

Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even many preachers. As many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God. They do not have God’s understanding of the subject cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His

Would you believe it that I had spent half of my life in the Baptist Church till the holy Spirit reveled to me what really dummies they were spiritually and how they were really both Holy Spirit and new testament ignorant still too The heart knows its own bitterness ( Proverbs 14:10)

How do you now deal with demon possessed Christian persons? ignore them send them top a physiatrist.. unlike Jesus and the Apostles? I myself rightfully firstly ask them to repent of the specific sin that got them possessed.. Narcissm included.. Narcissism is used to describe a person characterized by harshness, egotism, vanity, pride, or selfishness.

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a serious personal personality disorder in which the individual is excessively preoccupied with issues of personal needs, wants, desires, adequacy, power, prestige and even vanity..

Persons diagnosed with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder are characterized by unwarranted, false feelings of self-importance. They are aggressors who have an abnormal sense of entitlement and demonstrate grandiosity in their beliefs and behavior. They have a over inflated strong need for admiration of others, but meanwhile lack feelings of love, care, concerns empathy for others. Like the case of a father who buys a nice new car for himself while his own son suffers in poverty. These negative qualities are usually defenses against a deep feeling of inferiority and of being in the past rejected, unloved. Example- Rebuked in a marriage proposal.

The concept of Narcissus, excessive selfishness has been recognized negative through the Bible throughout history. Narcissism is usually considered a major problem in a person or group’s relationships with self and others.

These people who are pathologically narcissistic, are very much controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ views, unaware of others’ needs as well., obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges, problems in sustaining, satisfying relationships. lack of love to others, no emotional attachments, difficulty with empathy, clear problems distinguishing the self from others, manifest a hypersensitivity to any insults real or imagined insults, criticism and manifests often rage and objects to narcissistic injury, napoleon complex, use contempt to minimize the other person, can resort to physical abuse of others quite easily, inability to process shame in healthy ways.; gentleness only to those who admire and affirm them , detesting those who do not admire them , use other people without considering the cost of doing so, imposters, hypocrites, pretending to be more important even to all others over what they really are, self promoter, mostly, takes advantage of others to reach own imposed goals, always expects to be recognized as superior and special, without any real even superior accomplishments, falsely expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement of their goodness from others; arrogant in attitudes and behavior, expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic, often lying, ragging and exaggerate of their achievements, values, effects., claiming to be a genius, “expert” at all things, clearly cold, unloving, fruitless, inability to view the world from the perspective of other people, clear denial of any wrong doings, guilt, remorse and evident no gratitude.

Narcissists hold unreasonable and false expectations of particularly favorable treatment form all others and the related automatic compliance because they consider falsely do themselves special above all others. Failure to comply to praising them is considered a personal attack on them, their superiority, and the unacceptable perpetrator is immediately considered an “enemy” or “crazy” person, censured, not to associate with anymore. Any Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic even violent rage. All others are always to be placed in a subservient position. All Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all.

Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and their false illusion known , self projection to dump shame falsely unto onto others.

A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.

The narcissist who is feeling deflated does often re-inflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else. In other words a Slave driver, a control freak and Bully as well.

It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.;

says Salvation is a gift.. AND SO it is now still a false what a justification for all the sins that even too many evangelical pastors also and undeniably can still do after they had been already saved.. and how really really absurd, ridiculous response Reggie that is still .. really Reggie I love all the relevant the Holy Spirit led Bible verses you had posted to me in reply.. what there are none? why was that? only the personal attacks, insults…Oh yes insults upon insults.. it seems I am talking to a child and not a mature adult still.. and is it cause you really are Bible ignorant like so many others so you cannot give a biblical evidence for your faith as Apostle Paul said we should? ..   really Repentance is also a gift and clearly many fundamental Christians still they do not seem to have it.. so their sons now are unforgiven and thus they do return to hell with them. So   tell me to whom these verses were written? to all non saved Baptists only ehh..

 1 John 1: 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Eternal security: the belief that once a person accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior, he can never be lost. Eternal security sounds great until you realize that this doctrine allows people to commit every sin under the sun without suffering any consequences for their complete lack of holy living. Why most people lack any concern for their eternal salvation is the most baffling question I can ponder. The Bible says that few people will choose to make heaven their eternal home. (Mat 7:13-14) The Bible and man are in sharp conflict with each other because most folks expect to be bound for heaven when they leave this world. It’s no accident that most people are deceived about their eternal destiny. Satan, who is described as the enemy of mankind, has made the damnation of souls his full-time job. Of course, everyone who’s been hoodwinked by the devil into believing a lie only has himself or herself to blame for the poor judgment. It is the false advocates of eternal security that are often called, ignorant, immature carnal Christians by many In Romans 6:5-6 we are told that in order for us to be a part of His resurrection we must also be a part of His death. Verse 6 is very clear that it is the body of sin that is to be destroyed. When we are born again we are a new creation in Christ Jesus and no longer a slave to our carnal desires. We are in fact commanded to turn away from sin. Remember that whoever we serve is our master. If we serve God then we are dead to sin. If we serve sin then we are dead to God. We cannot serve two masters. It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock. As a result many of them falsely resort to a dictatorial, abusive or hierarchy church structure and they demand falsely AND force submission, and of course they even abuse their flock… they do now even cheat, lie, steal, slander, wrongfully counsel divorce.. . many people are surprised at this and do not know what to do.. Recognize, admit the sad truth and shout their sins from the housetops. They are not real, loving shepherds called by God..

One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal by God, so they too are ignorant, they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play. Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.

AND   DO SEE ALSO

https://dispensatiionalism.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/pre-trib-rapture-is-false-along-with-eternal-security/
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html ..

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/deceived-by-the-imposters-cults-sects-wolves-in-sheep-clothing/ .

The New Testament Church Structure, Which one is Biblical,

The New Testament Church Structure, Which one is Biblical, the right one for tofday? Does God firstly really lead the Church even today by  an  one man or an eldership form of structure – an one directional pyramidal structure, or even the totally reverse also, a Congregationalist one? or the bi directional pyramidal structure or  what? Do you even really know what the New Testament says now on this?

DO SEE http://pbulow.tripod.com/struct.html

Tragically there are even too many devils volunteers   in our families, not just in the household of faith. (Mat 10:36 KJV) And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. (Luke 21:16 KJV) And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. Normally it is the church leaders themselves who destroy the church since most church leaders even these days are also now extremely biblically ignorant, theyhave been appointed leaders mostly for the wrong resaons..

ONLY 30 PERCENT OF THE PASTORS NOW HAVE ACTUALY BEEN CALLED BY GOD..
2 Tim 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; :5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. :8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. :9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
Distinguishing marks of abusive churches, bad Pastors.

“First, abusive churches have a control-oriented style of leadership.

Second, the leaders of such churches often use manipulation to gain complete submission from their members.

Third, there is a rigid, legalistic lifestyle involving numerous requirements and minute details for daily life.

Fourth, these churches tend to change their names often, especially once they are exposed by the media.

Fifth, denouncing other churches is common because they see themselves as superior to all other churches.

Sixth, these churches have a persecution complex and view themselves as being persecuted by the world, the media, and other Christian churches.

Seventh, abusive churches specifically target young adults between eighteen and twenty-five years of age.

The eighth and final mark of abusive churches is the great difficulty members have in getting out of or leaving these churches, a process often marked by social, psychological, or emotional pain.”

” A central feature of an abusive church is control-oriented leadership. The leader in an abusive church is dogmatic, self- confident, arrogant, and the spiritual focal point in the lives of his followers. The leader assumes he is more spiritually in tune with God than anyone else. He claims insight into Scripture that no one else has. Or, he may state that he receives personal revelations from God. Because of such claims, the leader’s position and beliefs cannot be questioned; his statements are final. To members of this type of church or group, questioning the leader is the equivalent of questioning God. Although the leader may not come out and state this fact, this attitude is clearly seen by the treatment of those who dare to question or challenge the leader. The leader of the movement often makes personal decisions for his followers. Individual thinking is prohibited; thus the followers become dependent on the leader. In the hierarchy of such a church, the leader is, or tends to be, accountable to no one. Even if there is an elder board, it is usually made up of men who are loyal to, and will never disagree with, the leader. This style of leadership is not one endorsed in the Bible.

 
 (Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. DO SEE ALSO http://pbulow.tripod.com/persecuted.htm

 Pet 4:12 KJV) Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Every   true child of God even should know that  satanic attacks directly, or indirectly, such as through a person, are going to come periodically, temporarily and they will come both subtly and/or openly, and sometimes furiously. Satan will never give up on harassing a child of God.  But there is a way out, just resist him with the word of God, and the name of Jesus. Jesus was tempted, oppressed by the devil and he quoted the word of God to the devil.

 (Mat 4:1 KJV)  Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2  And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered. 3   And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.4   But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.  5   Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, 6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. 7  Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. 8   Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9  And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

May the  words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer. -Psalm 19:14

 
  (Rev 7:14 KJV)  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

(Rev 12:11 KJV)  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

James 4:7  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8  Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9  Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10  Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

II Corinthians 6:14 – 7:1 “Heavenly Father, I bow in worship and praise before you. I cover myself with the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ as my protection. I surrender myself completely and unreservedly in very area of my life to You. I take a stand against all the workings of satan that would hinder me in my prayer life. I address myself only to the true and Living God and refuse any involvement… of satan in my prayer. Satan, I command you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to leave my presence with all your demons. I bring the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ between us. I resist all the endeavors of satan and his wicked spirits to rob me of the will of God. I choose to be transformed by the renewing of my mind. I pull down the stronghold of satan over my life, mind, family, business, etc

(Luke 21:19 KJV) In your patience possess ye your souls. All Persons will pay the consequences for their unrepentant of actions. This principle is amply laid out in Scripture.

MAKE EVERY SECOND OF TIME COUNT AS IT ALL WILL QUICKLY PASS AWAY AND YOU WILL HAVE NO REWARD IN HEAVEN NEXT TOO..

(Job 8:20 KJV)  Behold, God will not cast away a perfect man, neither will he help the evil doers:

(Psa 37:4 KJV)  Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.

(Psa 37:5 KJV)  Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.

(Psa 37:6 KJV)  And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.

(Psa 37:7 KJV)  Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.

(Psa 37:8 KJV)  Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.

(Psa 37:9 KJV)  For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.

(Psa 37:10 KJV)  For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

(Psa 37:11 KJV)  But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

(Psa 37:12 KJV)  The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.

(Psa 37:13 KJV)  The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.

(Psa 37:14 KJV)  The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.

(Psa 37:15 KJV)  Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.

(Psa 37:16 KJV)  A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.

(Psa 37:17 KJV)  For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.

(Psa 37:18 KJV)  The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.

(Psa 37:19 KJV)  They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.

(Psa 37:20 KJV)  But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

(Heb 13:20 KJV)  Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, (Heb 13:21 KJV)  Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Also do see The Power of the Blood of Christ by R. A. Torrey Ocean City & The need for binding and loosening related to Satan, http://cityocean.wordpress.com/