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The Hallmark of a democratic society is unregulated press and the right of free speech of all citizens, without being bullied , lied about, slandered but unfortunately tis is not always the case in Canada, not in the Internet, not even especially in the Christian Internet where your post can be twisted, lied about distorted, censored or yourself banned, likley by the same religious control freaks who would kill Jesus Christ today as well. They even try to tell us what to write.. How absurd. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/now-about-the-abusers-bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

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Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the realy bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as as to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.  

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Some people say we need to turn our cheeks to our abusers and next they will become Christians because we love them is not true.. Jesus loved Judas and he Judas still went to hell.. if we continue with this approach we should le all the bad guys out of prison and they will be converted…. very very unlikely.

Yes they the unsaved will see we are Christians by how we Christians do love one another does not mean they will become Christians,, To become a Christian you need to repent and few people are willing to do this. Who wants to give up he pleasures of sin, a bad lifestyle on their own? not many.

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Let me tell you we do not have to accept human rights abuse that is a lie of the devil.. in this world we have the same rights as the bully even the right to see that a bully is punished for abusing us.. God is not ignorant about the injustices inflicted upon his people, nor does he accept any of our human rights abuses without punishing the abusers shortly.. see the Bible book of Esther if you have doubts..

Est 9:25 But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.

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I have to admit it came to me as a shock firstly when I started to attend evangelical, Baptist, Pentecostal churches in Canada now as an adult that that same right to be respect, to speak, and to be heard, not to be bullied, falsely oppressed, the Legal and Human rights that I had before, often now did not exist in the churches surprisingly now of all places. Never saw so many control freaks, human rights abusers in my whole life next to the too often bad cops now too. And perversely many a despotic, crooked elder, pastor had wrongfully tried to shut me up, and even next had resorted next to slander me, to try to discredit me and what I had said, or whatever,

Even in the Christian circles we find many ostriches who cannot handle negative statements,

Jesus told us to preach solely the good news IS NOT TRUE, HE TOLD US TO PREACH THE FULL GOSPEL, THE GOOD AND BAD NEWS, THE BAD NEWS INCLUDES STILL THE REALITY MOST PEOPLE WILL GO TO HELL. THE PROPHETS OFTEN PREACHED MOSTLY THE BAD NEWS..One’s need to repent.

Many have it all wrong , yes we do not fellowship with thieves, liars, abusers, distorters, crooks, the bad persons whose real agenda is to take you to hell.. But that does not mean we kick out pout about the preachers who ask us to repent, whose simple, blunt messages many we find disturbing

Those who are ashamed of using the name of Jesus are not Jesus Disciples. It is only the name of Jesus that saves, heals, delivers you.. not any other name.. not the Jewish name…

In real life sibling rivalry, bullies, oppressors can be found everywhere, in our homes, amongst our associates, in our communities, on the net, in politics, civil and public services, even in the churches as well. These are the people who falsely abuse others and despise the human rights of others, and they falsely do think now that God himself approves of it or overlooks it all.. Nothing could be further from the truth. But our own final peace, reward will be in Heaven.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/oppressors-or-bullies-are-always-unacceptable/

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Now about these false bullies, thugs, the proud oppressors, war mongers

This is what the Lord , the God of Israel, himself now rather says about them all:    “Many  sorrow awaits them; their false pride will soon lie in total ruins, they will be humiliated and  devastated rather. No one will ever brag about them again.  Listen rather to the forthcoming  cries,  their  cries of devastation due to their  great personal devastations, destructions.  They cry out in terror. Because they  have trusted in their own wealth and skill, they will be taken fully  captive unavoidably too.  Cursed are they also   because they had  refuse to do the Lord’s work, they held, hold back their swords from shedding Justice! “From their  earliest days, the proud oppressors, bullies  have lived in peace, never suffering setbacks but all that is now about to change. But the time is coming soon,” says the Lord,  “when I will send men to displace them  from their false self confidence, security. They will unsettle them, and permanently   then shatter their false peace, false confidence! At last they all  will be ashamed also of their false idol , their god of war.    You used to boast, ‘We are heroes, we are mighty men of war.’ But now the bully  and his supporters will all  be destroyed. His most promising youth are also now next doomed to slaughter,” says the King, whose name is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies.   “Destruction is coming fast for them; it’s calamity threatens ominously.  Rather  weep for him and cry!   See how the once strong scepter is rather broken, how the once supposedly beautiful staff is shattered!   “Come down from your glory and sit in the dust, you supporters of them too. They will also tear down all your false securities, refuge.. ‘The bully, oppressor,  lies in ruins, disgraced; weeping and wailing! Judgment has been poured out on them and their false supporters too.  “His strength has ended. His arm has been broken,” says the Lord. “Let him stagger and fall like a drunkard, cause he has rebelled against the Lord.  He rather will wallow in his own vomit,  ridiculed by all.  We had all heard of his once boastful , for his pride is very great.   We all seem to know of his lofty pride,   his arrogance, and his haughty heart. I also do know about his insolence,”   says the Lord, “but his boasts are empty—  as empty as his vain deeds. And the destroyer has stripped you bare!  Your past  Joy and gladness are gone.   No one now hears their once  shouts of joy. There is shouting, yes, but not of joy.   “Instead, their awful cries of terror can now be heard world wide too.  “I will put an end to them,” says the Lord, “for the people offer sacrifices at the pagan shrines and burn incense to their false gods.   but now all of  their wealth has disappeared.   There is crying and sorrow as a result. For I have smashed them now  like an old, unwanted jar.   How it is unrepairably shattered! Hear the wailing! Their  shame of Moab! It has become an object of ridicule, an example of ruin to all their  neighbors.”   This is what the Lord says:    “Look! The enemy swoops down like an eagle,   spreading his wings over them. Their resources cities will fall, and their strongholds will be seized. Even the mightiest of them will be in anguish like a woman in labor. For they have  falsely even boasted against the Lord. Now  “Terror and traps and snares will be your lot,” says the Lord. “Those who flee in terror will fall into a trap, and those who escape the trap will step into a snare.   I will see to it that you do not get away, for the time of your judgment has come,”   says the Lord. For a fire comes upon them to devour the entire lands, resources,  with all their rebellious friends, supporter “Now many , they weep for you!   Your sons and your daughters   have even been taken away as captives”.  Jeremiah 48

see also http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/young-offenders/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/reality-a-lesson-for-all-of-the-rcmp/

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Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others,  or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and  often rather making it a lot worse.

Although I had been a Christian for 15 years already. .I was 35 years old when someone said i could hear God speak to me and boy I  was mad.. mad  mad.. and I said it was all untrue..   I  recognized next that  the sprit of God was telling me not to get upset and that God would talk to me this evening, next I was to drive to my favorite spot where i loved to see the mountains views this evening a and which i did..  when i got there God told me to shut up and be quiet for 30 minutes first.. next he said for me to praise the lord.. which i did for 30 minutes.. and then i could hear God talking to me specially.. for about an hour.. he God next told me he had my life planned for me. Now from then on I have learned to talk with God, to pray to him, to share with him my needs, and to discuss them, as well as listen to what he says next..

Now I  had send a birthday present my nephew and I had left a part of it out.. God told me I could send it in another Parcel, so next I had  sent the other parcel next when I was subsequently told that the parcel was lost in delivery. This surprised me cause as why would God tell me to send it.. But a few weeks later I got a phone call telling me the parcel was found. it was still  delivered.. Jesus said my sheep hear my Voice, and the Bible says that you will not go to the left or right unless you hear a confirming voice telling you this is the way walk there in.

Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, as to what un-confessed, un-repented of sins are obstructing their relationship with him now..

Believe it I do often hear God, Jesus, holy Spirit talking to me in an audible and in audible voices. It brings me great joy always now too.

God will speak to us


-but we also do need to write it down because our memories tend to be very short.
-and we need to share it with others next as well for as we sow more will be given back to us..
If you know beforehand the Bible well you will also know the reality of his revelations which will not contradict the Bible..

God’s voice. Elijah described it as a still, small voice (I Kings 19:12).
I do always listen  for an inner audible voice, and I say too “Speak lord for they servant is ready to hear”..- Doubt may eventually next hinder you at first, but throw it off, reminding yourself that it is a biblical concept, and that God is present, speaking to His children.- Don’t take your own way,  yourself, or your own personal importance too seriously which is also a sin.. of pride, rebellion, stubbornness,
 
When you do, you become tense and get in the  way of the Holy Spirit’s movement. It is also  when  we cease our labors and enter His rest that  God is free to flow (Heb. 4:10). Therefore  turn your attention  toward God in praise and worship, seeking His  face. As you wait before God, fixing your gaze solely on Jesus,   in a humble state of mind  and become all still before him, fixing your gaze on Jesus,  God  is present with you, you will become more real to you and you too will discover that you are indeed  dialoguing with God.
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You Can Hear God’s Voice! ( and here is one of many approaches to do so)
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Four keys to consistent, powerful, life-giving conversations with God
 
How to receive revelation knowledge
 
An example of revelation knowledge is when you are reading the Bible and a verse leaps off the page, hits  you between the eyes, and God says, “This is for you right now.” These are precious experiences for the believer. However, for many, they do not happen often enough. There are seven things I do which allow me  the privilege of receiving revelation knowledge every time I read the Bible. Truth and insights leap off the  page and an understanding of how they are to adjust my life permeates my spirit and soul. I love this  experience and hunger for it every time I read the Scriptures. That is why I prepare myself by doing the  following seven things. Prayerfully reflect on these steps and determine which ones you do and don’t use. 
 
 
Biblical Meditation  Resulting in illumination, revelation knowledge, anointed reasoning  
Do Not Do This:
LEFTBRAIN
STUDY/RATIONAL HUMANISM
1. Have unconfessed sin
2. Have a pre-conceived attitude
3. Be independent: “I can…”
4. Read quickly
5. Rely on reason & analysis only 
6. Read without specific purpose
7. Take credit for insights
 
But Do This:
WHOLEBRAIN/HEART
MEDITATION/DIVINE REVELATION
1. Be washed by Jesus’ blood
2. Have a teachable attitude
3. Pray: “Lord, show me”
4. Slow down, ponder, muse
5. Combine anointed reason,  flowing pictures, music &  speech
6. Read with focused purpose
7. Glorify God for insights
 
The Seven Steps of  Biblical Meditation Explained: 

1. LORD, CLEANSE ME BY YOUR BLOOD: Since receiving divine revelation is at the heart of biblical meditation, you must prepare yourself to receive from the Holy Spirit by repenting and being cleansed by the blood of the Lamb. You must be obedient to previous revelations from God (Matt. 7:6), and confess any sin in your life, so you are not cut off from ongoing revelation (Is. 59:1,2; I Jn. 1:9).

2. LORD, GRANT ME A TEACHABLE ATTITUDE: Revelation is given to those who maintain an  attitude of humility, and it is withheld from the proud and the arrogant. So keep an  open, humble attitude before God, allowing Him the freedom to shed greater light on  any ideas you currently hold and to alter them as He sees fit (Jas. 4:6; II Pet. 1:19).

3. LORD, I WILL NOT USE MY FACULTIES MYSELF: You can do nothing of your own initiative but only what you hear and see by the Spirit (Jn. 5:19,20,30). You do not have a mind to use, but a mind to present to God so He can use it and fill it with anointed reason and divine vision (Prov. 3:5-7; Rom.  12:1,2). If you use your mind yourself, it is a dead work (Heb. 6:1,2).

4. LORD, I PRAY THAT THE EYES OF MY HEART MIGHT BE  ENLIGHTENED: Slow down as you read, mulling the text over and over in your heart and mind, praying constantly for God to give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him (Eph.  1:17,18; Ps. 119:18).

5. LORD, I PRESENT THE ABILITIES TO REASON AND TO IMAGINE TO YOU TO FILL AND FLOW THROUGH BY YOUR SPIRIT: Meditation involves presenting your faculties to God for Him to fill and use. These include your left-brain reasoning capacities as well as your right-brain  visual capacities. Look for the river of God (i.e.  “Spirit flow”) to guide and fill both hemispheres, granting you anointed reasoning and dream and vision (Jn. 7:37-39). Music can assist you, as can muttering, speaking, and writing as you go through the discovery process (II Kings 3:15).

6. LORD, SHOW ME THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM I AM FACING: Focused attention brings additional energies of  concentration of heart and mind, which help  release revelation. For example, note the difference between a ray of sunlight hitting a piece of  paper, and sunlight going through a magnifying  glass to hit a piece of paper. The focused energycreates a ray so concentrated that the paper bursts into flames. When you have a hunger to master a new understanding and discipline, that hungry and searching heart will cause you to see things you  would not normally see (Matt. 5:6).

7. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR WHAT YOU HAVE SHOWN ME: Realizing that the revelation came from the indwelling Holy Spirit, give all the glory to God for what has been revealed (Eph. 3:21). 

Another Great Aid to “Seeing”: Writing Out Scripture

When you write or type out a verse, you discover words which you  otherwise might have missed. Therefore, I write out verses which I  know are key truths for my life. I pray over them, diagram them,  analyze them, meditate on them. That is why I have written many of  my books. I write so I can learn, so I can put truths I am understanding in my own words and in a framework which is meaningful for me.

The following is the law which God gave for new kings who had just  been crowned and were coming to sit upon their throne for the first  time: “Now it shall come about when he sits on the throne of his  kingdom, he shall write for himself a copy of this law on a  scroll in the presence of the Levitical priests” (Deut. 17:18). Since we are kings and priests, are we to do any less (I Pet 2:9)? Let  us make the writing out of Scriptures an important part of our lives.

When we hear of one actually claiming to be able to hear the voice of God. However, we do  not scoff, for several reasons. First, men and  women throughout the Bible heard God’s  voice. Also, there are some highly effective  and reputable men and women of God alive  today who demonstrate that they hear God’s
voice. Finally, there is a deep hunger within us  all to commune with God, and hear Him speak  within our hearts.
As a born-again, Bible-believing Christian, I  struggled unsuccessfully for years to hear God’s  voice. I prayed, fasted, studied my Bible and  listened for a voice  within, all to no avail. There  was no inner voice that I could hear!   God set me aside for a year to study, read, and  experiment in the area of learning to hear His voice. During that time, the Lord taught me  four keys that opened the door to two-way  prayer. I have discovered that not only do they  work for me, but they have worked for many  thousands of believers who have been taught  to use them, bringing tremendous intimacy to  their Christian experience and transforming their very way of living. This will happen to you  also as you seek God, utilizing the following  four keys. The key are all found in Habakkuk 2: 1,2. I encourage you to read this passage before  going on.

Key #1 – God’s voice in our hearts may sound  like a flow of spontaneous thoughts. ( confused also by the devil’s obstructions sometimes) Therefore, when I tune to God solely (  In prayer I first do ask the devil to stop talking to me, and I ask God alone to speak to me, God next he answers this prayer, I tune to spontaneity. The Bible says that the Lord answered me and  said…(Hab. 2:2). Habakkuk knew the sound of can and does speak that way at times. How  ever, I have found that for most of us, most of  the time, God’s inner voice comes to us first  as an interrupted spontaneous thoughts, visions, feelings, or impressions, (since we tend top have no room for god and often are busy pursing our own selfish, self centered ways and thoughts) . For example, haven’t each of us had the experience of driving down the road  and having a thought come to us to pray for  a certain person? We generally acknowledge  this to be the voice of God calling us to pray for  that individual. My question to you is, “What  did God’s voice sound like as you drove in your  car? Was it an inner, audible voice, or was it a  spontaneous thought that lit upon your mind?”  Most of you would say that God’s voice came  to you as a spontaneous thought.So I thought to myself, “Maybe when I listen  for God’s voice, I should be listening for a flow  of spontaneous thoughts. Maybe spirit-level  communication is received as spontaneous  thoughts, impressions, feelings, and visions.”  Through experimentation and feedback from  thousands of others, I am now convinced that  this is so.

The Bible confirms this in many ways. The definition of paga, the Hebrew word for intercession, is “a chance encounter or an accidental  intersecting.” When God lays people on our  hearts for intercession, He does it through  paga, a chance-encounter thought, accidentally  intersecting our thought processes. Therefore, when I tune to God, I tune to chance-encounter thoughts or spontaneous thoughts. When I am poised quietly before God in prayer, I have found that the flow of spontaneous thoughts  that comes is quite definitely from God.

Key #2 – I must learn to still my own thoughts and emotions, so that I can sense God’s flow of thoughts and emotions within me.

Habakkuk said, “I will stand on my guard post and station myself on the rampart…” (Hab. 2:1). Habakkuk knew that in order to hear God’s quiet, inner, spontaneous thoughts, he had to first go to a quiet place and still his own thoughts and emotions. Psalm 46:10 encourages us to be still, and know that He is God. There is a deep inner knowing (spontaneous flow) in our spirits that each of us can experience when we quiet our flesh and our minds.I have found several simple ways to quiet myself  so that I can more readily pick up God’s spontaneous flow. Loving God through a quiet worship song is a most effective means for me (For God inhabits the praises of his people, his nearness is made more real,  note  II Kings 3:15). It is as I become still (thoughts,  will, and emotions) and am poised before God  that the divine flow is realized. Therefore, after  I worship quietly and then become still, I open  myself for that spontaneous flow. If thoughts  come to me of things I have forgotten to do,  I write them down and then dismiss them. If  thoughts of guilt or unworthiness come to my  mind, I repent thoroughly, receive the washing  of the blood of the Lamb, and put on His robe  of righteousness, seeing myself spotless before  the presence of God (Is. 61:10; Col. 1:22).

As I fix my gaze upon Jesus (Heb. 12:2), be coming quiet in His presence, and sharing with  Him what is on my heart, I find that two-way  dialogue begins to flow. Spontaneous thoughts  flow from the throne of God to me, and I find that I am actually conversing with the King of  Kings. It is very important that you become still and properly focused if you are going to receive  the pure word of God. If you are not still, you  will simply be receiving your own thoughts. If  you are not properly focused on Jesus, you will  receive an impure flow, because the intuitive  flow comes out of that upon which you have  fixed your eyes. Therefore, if you fix your eyes  upon Jesus, the intuitive flow comes from Jesus. If you fix your gaze upon some desire of  your heart, the intuitive flow comes out of that desire of your heart. To have a pure flow you  must first of all become still, and secondly, you  must carefully fix your eyes upon Jesus. Again I  will say, quietly worshiping the King, and then  receiving out of the stillness that follows quite easily accomplish this.

 
Key #3 – As I pray, I fix the eyes of my heart upon Jesus, seeing in the spirit the dreams and visions of Almighty God.

We have already alluded to this principle in  the previous paragraphs; however, we need to  develop it a bit further. Habakkuk said, “I will  keep watch to see,” and God said, “Record the  vision” (Hab. 2:1,2). It is very interesting that  Habakkuk was going to actually start looking  for vision as he prayed. He was going to open the eyes of his heart, and look into the spirit  world to see what God wanted to show him.  This is an intriguing idea.I had never thought of opening the eyes of  my heart and looking for vision. However, the  more I thought of it, the more I realized this  was exactly what God intends for me to do. He  gave me eyes in my heart. They are to be used  to see in the spirit world the vision and movement of Almighty God. I believe there is an  active spirit world functioning all around me. is world is full of angels, demons, the Holy Spirit, the omnipresent God, and His omnipresent Son, Jesus. There is no reason for me not to see it, other than my rational culture, which tells me not to believe it is even there and provides no instruction on how to become open to seeing this spirit world.

The  most obvious prerequisite to seeing is that  we need to look. Daniel was seeing a vision in  his mind and he said, “I was looking…I kept  looking… I kept  looking” (Dan. 7:2,9,13). Now  as I pray, I look for Jesus present with me, and  I watch Him as He speaks to me, doing and  saying the things that are on His heart. Many  Christians will find that if they will only look,  they will see. Jesus is Emmanuel, God with us  (Matt. 1:23). It is as simple as that. You will see  a spontaneous inner vision in a manner similar  to receiving spontaneous inner thoughts. You  can see Christ present with you in a comfortable setting, because Christ is present with  you in a comfortable setting. Actually, you  will probably discover that inner vision comes  so easily you will have a tendency to reject it,  thinking that it is just you. (Invalid Doubt is Satan’s  most effective weapon against the Church.)  However, if you will persist in recording these  visions, your doubt will soon be overcome by   faith as you recognize that the content of them  could only be birthed in Almighty God.God continually revealed Himself to His covenant people using dream and vision. He did so  from Genesis to Revelation and said that, since  the Holy Spirit was poured out in Acts 2, we  should expect to receive a continuing flow of  dreams and visions (Acts 2:1-4,17). Jesus, our  perfect Example, demonstrated this ability of  living out of ongoing contact with Almighty  God. He said that He did nothing on His own initiative, but only that which He saw the Father doing, and heard the Father saying (Jn.  5:19,20,30). What an incredible way to live!

Is it actually possible for us to live out of the  divine initiative as Jesus did? A major purpose  of Jesus’ death and resurrection was that the  veil be torn from top to bottom, giving us access into the immediate presence of God, and  we are commanded to draw near (Lk. 23:45;  Heb. 10: 19-22). Therefore, even though what I  am describing seems a bit unusual to a rational  twentieth-century culture, it is demonstrated  and described as being a central biblical teaching and experience. It is time to restore to the  Church all that belongs to the Church.

Because of their intensely rational nature and existence in an overly-rational culture, some will need more assistance and understanding of these truths before they can move into them. They will find this help in the book Communion With God by the same authors.

Key #4 – Journaling, the writing out of our prayers and God’s answers, provides a greater new freedom in hearing God’s voice.

God told Habakkuk to record the vision and  inscribe it on tablets…(Hab. 2:2). It had never  crossed my mind to write out my prayers and  God’s answers as Habakkuk did at God’s command. If you begin to search Scripture for this  idea, you will find hundreds of chapters demonstrating it (Psalms, many of the prophets, Revelation). Why then hadn’t I ever thought  of it? (Or why have I refused to do it is the question too)I called the process “journaling,” and I began  experimenting with it. I discovered it to be a  fabulous facilitator to clearly discerning God’s”

Many academic scholars study the Bible and they still fail at it drastically.
A Study (My use of one part of one hemisphere of my brain) 
1. Is nowhere endorsed in Scripture (II Tim. 2:15 is a mis-translation in the KJV Bible).
2. Is self in action (Humanism – a false god).

3. Is self using reason (Rationalism – a false god).

4. Results in wisdom from below – earthly, natural, demonic (Jas. 3:15). For example, reason caused Peter to be
at odds with the purposes of God (Jn. 18:10,11).

Study violates the following biblical principles:

1. Gal. 2:20 – I resurrect self, which no longer lives.

2. Rom. 12:1 – I am using my faculties rather than presenting them to God to use.

3. Is. 1:18 – I’m reasoning, rather than reasoning together with God.

4. Gen. 3:5 – I’ve fallen prey to the temptation of the Garden of Eden that “I can know good and evil.”

  

Meditation (Hebrew/Lamad) To murmur; to converse with oneself, and hence aloud; speak; talk; babbling;  communication; mutter; roar; mourn; a murmuring sound; i.e., a musical notation;  to study; to ponder; revolve in the mind; imagine; pray; prayer; reflection; devotion”  (Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance*)

Meditation (God’s use of every part of both hemispheres of my brain as He fills and flows out through my heart by His Spirit)

1. Is endorsed 18 times in the KJV Bible.

2. Is God in action within the individual.

3. Is God granting revelation through the heart and mind which has been yielded to Him.

4. Results in wisdom from above – pure, peaceable, gentle (Jas. 3:17).

Meditation applies the following biblical principles:

1. Gal. 2:20 – I let Christ live through me.

2. Rom. 12:1 – I am yielding my outer faculties to the indwelling Spirit (to “flow” – Jn. 7:38).

3. Is. 11:2 When reasoning together with God, I receive a spirit of wisdom and understanding and knowledge.

4. Jn. 5:19,20,30 – I’m living as Jesus did, out of divine initiative, doing what I see and hear my Father doing. “

– Visit www.cwgministries.org  for many more free articles, free downloadable books and additional information on hearing God’s voice.

So did you start your journey with God in full, or are you still lost, in the wilderness? still in un-confessed, un-repented  sins, self centered, selfishly doing your own thing. Trying wrongfully to do it in your own strength.

One of the most successful of Satan’s deceptions is the promulgation of the belief that he and his angels are not here on the earth, In Revelation 12:7-9 we read, “And there was war in heaven: Michael [Christ] and his angels fought against the dragon [Satan]; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Satan’s angels are the angels that he deceived into following him in his rebellion against God. Notice that Satan and his angels [devils] were not cast out of heaven to hell; they were cast out to the earth, which is where they are right now! Jesus says in Luke 10:18, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Revelation 12:12: “Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” Additional texts which show that Satan resides on the earth are found in the book of Job. The story of the Garden of Eden is given in Genesis 2:8 through 3:24. There are only four persons mentioned: God, Adam, Eve, and the devil, Satan, who masqueraded as a serpent. Then, after Adam and Eve had been expelled, God stationed angels to guard the garden.  “Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created. . . .” God therefore certainly did not create the devil, but He did create the perfect, holy angel who later became the devil. When God created beings with free will, He knew that sooner or later one of them would begin to experience pride and selfish ambition just as Satan did. If Satan had not been created, the experience that happened to him would have happened to another angel. Why God created beings with free will, beings who can disobey if they choose, The devil still walks on earth and reports to God.  Job 1:7 says, “And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”  Genesis 1:31 tells us that “God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.” Everything was in perfect harmony with everything else. None of God’s creatures ever hurt another or made another unhappy. Where, then, did these obnoxious things come from? Where do the diseases from which mankind suffers come from? Why do animals and human beings hurt and kill one another now when they did not do this originally? Why does the lion eat other animals now instead of straw like the ox, as it did before? Consider the experience of the apostle Paul. A dedicated soldier of truth for the Lord and writer of many of the books of the New Testament, Paul had a physical infirmity. In 2 Corinthians 12:7, he tells us where his infirmity came from. “And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.” Paul says that his problem was from Satan. He also says that he was given the problem so that he would not become proud because of the abundance of God’s revelations to him. God revealed to Paul the whole truth concerning Satan’s rebellion, and it is easy to see that this privilege might have tended to make Paul proud. You see, God did not afflict Paul, but He allowed Satan to do so. Another text that shows that the devil is the cause of pain and suffering is Luke 13:11. “And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.” Here a woman is described who was paralyzed in a bowed-together position, probably with arthritis, for eighteen years. Did God do this to that poor woman and make her suffer for eighteen years? Of course not. God is the ultimate of love and kindness. In Luke 13:16, Jesus explains who did do this to the woman. “And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?” You see, Satan afflicted this woman just as he afflicted Paul and just as he causes sickness and suffering in our world today. Satan is the one who causes all disease and suffering in our world.  The only hope we have of penetrating this wall of lies and deception which Satan has built around us is in the whole Bible,  the New Testament included, the standard for truth in our world. Remember that God cannot lie. (Titus 1:2). First Peter 5:8 tells us to “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” We get a further understanding of the extent of our deception in 2 Corinthians 4:4, which explains that Satan “hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” Proverbs 16:25 tells us that “There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” First Corinthians 2:14 says, “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him.” In Matthew 24:24 Jesus Himself warns that “There shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” 2 Corinthians 11:14,15. “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

 

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Politics- Political, corruptions, inducements  
How many rich people in Calgary, Edmonton  
Healing, Todd Bentley, Florida, Lakeland  
Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper  
The Faith Factor 2008 vs. 2004 — US Exit Polls  
The really Bad Alliance , Evangelical Church  
 
The Jesus Name Apostolic Holiness Church  
Dirtied politics  
Assemblies of God Pentecostals  
Lies, slander, personal defamation   
Dispensationalists it seems to compensate  

 

 (Heb 10:31 KJV)  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

It always still amazes me how many pastors lie and say they are doing God’s work and yet they never quote the Bible to anyone, so who are they actually fooling: God, the Bible or mere self, men in reality? When I first examine a pastor I first go to his study and see what books he uses.. over the Bible.. so I can know why he is failing. The Holy Spirit himself in detail too will lead and guide you in all truth.. if you actually are led by him now.
 
It is undeniable fact that these days 70 percent of all pastors are bad, so I have helped to fire many evangelical pastors, founding church pastors as well, I helped to closed two evangelical churches as well. Most pastors still are are sex maniacs , counsel divorce, alcoholics falsely still too.
 
Public exposure and prosecuting of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest.
 
I am no ostrich and I also do  follow what Apostle Paul did, I first had wrote letters to the churches,  members, adherents about their uancceptable sins.. I talk to people I love and rightfully even rebuke them before all as well.
 
Genuine Prophets sill point fingers today and still do ask people to repent.
 
(Rev 2:5 KJV)  Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
 
(Rev 2:16 KJV)  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
 
(Rev 2:21 KJV)  And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
 
(Rev 2:22 KJV)  Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
 
(Rev 3:3 KJV)  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(1 Tim 5:21 KJV)  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
 
(3 John 1:3 KJV)  For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.
 
(3 John 1:4 KJV)  I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
 
God bless you
 

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Latter Rain (Christian Church) Movement – The real latter day saints..

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For a great background introduction see http://lifebyjesus.wordpress.com/2013/08/17/jesus-christ-is-god/

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 The Latter Rain Movement also now is  the Pentecostalism Biblical teaching that the Lord is pouring out His Spirit again, as He did at Pentecost, and equipping the Holy Spirit filled believers to do his will .
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The term “latter rain” was first used early in the history of Pentecostalism, when David Wesley Myland wrote a book called Latter Rain Songs in 1907. Three years later, Myland wrote The Latter Rain Covenant, a defense of Pentecostalism in general.
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 Joel 2:23, “Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for He hath given you the former rain moderately, and He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.”
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Truthfully the  “rain” in this verse is the  outpouring of the Holy Spirit. The “latter rain” (the present  end-times outpouring) would be greater than the “former rain.”
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In 1948, a “revival” broke out in Saskatchewan, Canada, and the teachings of the Latter Rain movement were clarified. Those involved in the revival were convinced that they were on the verge of a new era, one in which the Holy Spirit would demonstrate His power in a greater way than the world had ever seen. Not even the age of the apostles, they said, had witnessed such a movement of the Holy Spirit.
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 Latter Rain doctrine includes the following beliefs:
– All the gifts of the Spirit, including tongues, are received through the laying on of hands
– All Christians can be demonized and do require deliverance
– God has restored all the offices of ministry to the Church, including apostle and prophet
– divine healing can be administered through the anointing with oil or the laying on of hands
– Our own praise and worship of God does  usher God more effectively   into our presence
– The women have a full and equal ministry role in the Church
– Eventually all denominational lines will be destroyed, and the Church will unify in the last days –
the “latter rain”   Church is  victorious over the world until the entrance of Christ’s kingdom
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Genesis 1:28,   ”Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth”
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THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD CHURCHES BUT THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION IS DECEPTIVE
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The International Coalition of Apostles headed by C. Peter Wagner is the most influential purveyor of the New Apostolic Reformation, a term coined by Wagner. This organization is really an extension of the New Order of the Latter Rain whose influences and mentors include William Branham, Franklin Hall, the Hawtin brothers, and more recently Bill Hamon, Paul Cain and the Kansas City Prophets. The doctrines of the Latter Rain have influenced most of the televangelists on TV today, and so have crept deceptively into many denominations. The main heretical teachings of the New Order Of The Latter Rain, as ruled in 1949 at the General Council of the Assemblies of God held in Seattle, were as follows: (1) The restoration of foundational apostles and prophets in the churches. (2) The teaching and promotion of a transferable impartation or anointing that are passed on “by” the laying on of hands “by” the will of man. (3) Confession and deliverance from sin to men. (4) The impartation of spiritual gifts by the laying on of hands such as the gift of languages for missionary service and other “ministry skills”. (5) The extreme and unscriptural practice of imparting or imposing personal leadings by the means of the gifts of utterance, “word of knowledge” or prophecy. (6) Distortions of scripture interpretations, which are in opposition to teachings and practices generally accepted among the Church. These doctrines deemed heretical by the Assemblies Of God in 1949, which are now common fare because of the Brownsville ‘Revival” and the Third Wave movement, are all being promoted today in the New Apostolic Reformation. http://www.scribd.com/doc/16611959/New-Apostolic-Reformation-Is-Deceptive
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I ATTENDED A LATTER RAIN CHURCH  FOR MANY YEARS, I LOVED THEIR TEACHINGS, THEIR GREAT SERVICES AT THE CALGARY CHRISTIAN CENTRE,  BUT  IN THE END I HELPED TO CLOSE THE CHURCH DOWN AND I HELPED TO GET  RID OF  ALL THE RATHER BAD PASTORS  INCLUDING REV DAVID LAGORE THERE TOO..  AS IT NOW HAD  TOO MANY CROOKS, DISHONEST PERSONS. THEY HAD FALSELY  HIJACKED LATTER RAIN TEACHINGS TO TRY TO  MAKE MONEY OUT OF IT.. THERE ARE ALWAYS STILL GOOD AND BAD PASTORS,CHURCHES TOO.. WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET FOOD POISONING  TOO.. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
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Here 28/30 pastor’s relatives were on the church payroll.. and lying, steal, adultery was also common even amongst the Pastors.. I CAUGHT ONE OF THEIR PASTORS RENTING WORLDLY  VIDEOS.
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EACH PERSON CAN BE A DR JEKYLL OR A MR HYDE CONCURRENTLY, A GOOD PERSON AT ONE TIME AND OTHER BAD PERSON NEXT TOO IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT PART OF YOU YOU NOW DO ALLOW TO DOMINATE, INFLUENCE, CONTROL YOU. WE CAN WALK IN THE FLESH OR IN THE HOLY SPIRIT. We can walk humbly or walk in a false pride… AND THE RESULTS WILL VARY TOO.
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By the way while I consider the Pentecostal churches to be far superior over any other groups, denominations  still there are good and bad Pentecostals, good and bad Pentecostal pastors, churches.  Just like there are good and bad Professing Christians  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/the-false-jesus-name-apostolic-holiness-church-oneness-pentecostal-christianity/
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It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches  that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/
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These third wave named Pentecostal Ministers are the crooks, thieves, liars who use the Church, Gospel to steal God’s money for themselves. they use a sensationalized approach of presenting the gospel. They do it cause it attracts visitors, followers and increases their incomes.
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1 Pet 5:2 KJV) Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
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(1 Pet 5:3 KJV) Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. The International Coalition of Apostles headed by C. Peter Wagner is a superficial, pretentious approach to the reality of real Apostleship and the related gifts of the Holy Spirit..

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If you let any of preachers alone tell you what is the Gospel truth and what you should believe you likely will end up going to hell, since all preachers are imperfect men, and all men tend to still lie as well and too often still for various reasons too.

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I serve Jesus and not mere man, and Jesus is always first for me. I thank God that while I as a sinner am still  totally helpless to be delivered from my sins here one earth, but Jesus died for them and forgave them when I admitted them, asked for his forgiveness. Should should we all, all pastors, included.
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The Latter Rain was a post-war movement within Pentecostal Christianity which remains for some PEOPLE STILL VERY controversial to this day. ( The problem often lies with the leaders, who did not live, practice, what they preach to others too. What is the Latter Rain teaching? Today a revival of the Latter Rain heresy that was rejected in 1950 by the  assembly of God denomination, It was wrong  that many of the Assembly Of God  Pentecostal churches were jealous, thus critical  of this Ministry to this day as well. Their rejection of it to me was unjustifiable still,and all of critiques firstly need  to be balanced by honesty..)) http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/the-assembly-of-god-pentecostals-vs-the-latter-rain-pentecostals/
A very lively church when it is led by the right, Godly leaders.. and a very bad church when the shepherds are bad.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/healing-todd-bentley-florda-lakeland-revival/
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Many people write half truths, these half truths still do not make liars into honest men..
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So far nothing has caused me to change my views on the subject.
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For clarification in discussion of the Latter Rain a distinction should be made between: *The Latter Rain Revival (1947-1952) *The Latter Rain Movement (1952-1960s) *Those persons next influenced by the Latter Rain.

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Origin and Influences

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The Latter Rain Movement had its beginnings in the years following World War II. It was contemporary with the evangelical awakening which was starting with Billy Graham at the forefront, as well as the Healing Revival with Oral Roberts, Jack Coe, and William Branham at the forefront. Although William Branham was never a part of the Latter Rain as such, he was revered by its leaders. It had in fact been a Branham meeting which triggered the start of the Latter Rain.
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Several Pentecostal leaders of a small orphanage outside of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, after visiting the meeting got a vision for a different dimension of Christianity and began to fast and pray in search of it. Later that year, revival events occurred. News quickly swept across Canada and the United States, influencing many Pentecostal believers.  (This explains why it is found in Western Canada.. where it competes directly with the Christian & Missionary Alliance Corporation too. The Western Canada Alliance Churches sadly are  known for  preaching Pentecostalism   but not practicing, living it now too. See the many posts about the bad Alliance. 
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Because of its grassroots and unstructured nature, history may never know the breadth of its influence. As the revival itself died down after a few years, those who had been changed by the doctrine formed various groups which came to become known as “The Latter Rain (Movement)”. The following list includes some representative leaders of various branches, both past and present.

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Founding Leaders

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*George Warnock (who had been Ern Baxter’s secretary), wrote “The Feast of Tabernacles” which became very influential not only for its view of the feasts but for its approach to the Scriptures. One identifiable mark of those influenced by the Latter Rain is their spiritual hermeneutic. *George Hawtin and his brother Ern, were key in the early spread of the movement. They traveled widely, and as they traveled the spirit and influence of the Latter Rain caught on. *A. Earl Lee from southern California was one of the fathers of the movement in Southern California. He had previously been involved with Aimee Semple McPherson..
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Mainstream Leaders

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*Kevin Conner is a very influential Bible teacher who came out of the Latter Rain and who has taken the best of these new ideas and blended them with the more traditional hermeneutics. His approach has influenced such leading ministers as T.D. Jakes. Conner is in fact part of a larger movement known as MFI which represents perhaps the most theologically solid group to directly emerge from the Latter Rain. *David Schoch was a leader associated with this branch of the Latter Rain. The church he led is now known as “City At the Cross” in Long Beach, CA. They have a helpful article here [1] *Wade Taylor came out of the Latter Rain, and was mentor to Robin McMillan, pastor of the lead fellowship of Rick Joyner’s MorningStar Ministry, which itself is very reflective of a Latter Rain ideal. *Glenn Ewing and his son Robert Ewing from Waco, Texas. Among others, the Ewings trained Jim Laffoon, leading prophet for Every Nation.
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Cult-like Movements

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*John Robert Stevens and his movement “The Walk” are an example of a ministry which emerged from the Latter Rain but became cultish. Royal Cronquist was another well known leader in this group. Influential charismatic Francis Frangipane came out of Stevens’ ministry, leaving before it turned in a cult-like direction. *Sam Fife and his movement “The Move” are another example of a cultish movement which was associated with the Latter Rain *Bill Britton teaching about Jesus as a “sample” or “example” son is connected to the Manifested Sons of God Theology which was taken to theological extremes. *Maranatha Campus Ministries, an outreach to college and university campuses, was accused of being a cult because of its highly authoritarian structure. It dissolved in 1989, and many of its leaders regrouped later in the 1990s to form what is now Every Nation.
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Contemporary Figures

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*Bishop Bill Hamon from Santa Rosa Beach, Florida. Hamon has been very influential in the Charismatic movement, including being featured on the cover of Charisma Magazine. *Dr. Kelley Varner from South Africa has a teaching ministry which is Latter Rain based. *Charles Schmitt, pastor of the large Immannuel’s Church in Silver Spring, MD, was spent time in the Latter Rain.
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Schools

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*Elim Bible Institute in New York was the center of much Latter Rain activity. *Portland Bible College, where Conner formerly taught, is another example of a Latter Rain influenced school. *Pincrest Bible School in upstate New York. Founded by Wade Taylor and Bill Britton *Destiny Image Publications, while founded long after the Latter Rain, prints sympathetic titles by Joyner, Hamon, Taylor and others.
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As the list above demonstrates, the movement itself should be distinguished from those whom it ultimately influenced. Some branches of the movement ultimately led to cult like groups, some parts of the movement remained orthodox and also true to Latter Rain ideal, and other parts of the movement moderated the doctrine and ultimately had positive effects on the Charismatic and Pentecostal churches at large.

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Historically, some of the most ardent critics of the Latter Rain and its offshoot theology, the Manifest Sons of God have come from within the Pentecostalism. ( BUT THAT IS WHERE THE DEVIL WORKS MOST OFTEN TOO)

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With time however, the Charismatic and Pentecostal movements, while rejecting the more extreme elements of the theology, have been greatly influenced by other aspects such as the “fivefold” ministry and the laying on of hands.

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More recently, it has been those from Fundamentalist circles who have been the most severe critics of the Latter Rain, and have use various loose connections to the movement to paint everyone associated with a negative brush.

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When its proponents brought the new doctrine into the Pentecostal Churches and in particular the Assemblies of God it nearly split the church. Leaders of the Assemblies of God were concerned that it glorified men among other things and pointed to the “ye are gods” as evidence of severe theological error. They were also concerned that the movement espoused a post-millennial rather than premillennial scenario of the “End Times.” In 1949 the Assemblies of God condemned the doctrine of the ‘Latter Rain Movement’ as heresy.( So what!)

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The Latter Rain brought in a new focus on the spiritual elements of Christianity including personal prophecy and typological interpretation of Scripture. The term “Latter Rain” stems from Bible passages as Jeremiah 3:3 and 5:2, Joel 2:23, Hosea 6:3, Zechariah 10:1, and James 5:7. The idea of a “Latter Rain” was not new to the movement, but in fact was present from the earliest days of Pentecostalism, who believed at the time that return of speaking in tongues and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit marked the “Latter Rain” of God’s Spirit, near the end of history.

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It is difficult to communicate the Latter Rain through reference to doctrine alone, because its most distinctive element is its spiritual atmosphere. Once one understands this basic point, it is easy to identify within the Pentecostal movement who has been impacted by the Latter Rain, and to what degree. Latter Rain proponents saw Pentecostalism as very dry in the post-war period, and in danger of slipping into a dry or mental formalism like many of their evangelical peers. When the Latter Rain hit the dryness was replaced with an almost hyper-spirituality, and the various doctrines lined up this basic idea.
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* The latter rain. The movement derives its name from its interpretation of Joel 2:23. The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost had been the “former rain” that established the Church, but the current “move” of the Spirit was the “latter rain” that would bring the Church’s work to completion, and culminate in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, which was imminent. Although this doctrine in itself had been around since Parham and the early Pentecostals, the Latter Rain broke with the dispensationalism which had become entrenched in Pentecostalism. Whereas dispensationalism is a pessimistic premillennialism, the Latter Rain emphasized victory. This led to various expressions of victorious minded premillennialism and ultimately postmillennialism. Rather than just try and save a few souls before rise of the anti-Christ, the Latter Rain emphasized the Church as overcoming and victorious. This shift alone is extremely significant and can be seen behind the Word of Faith movement, as well as most branches of the Charismatic movement.
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* Christian Unity. A major theme of the Latter Rain was unity among the believers, in the church service, in the geographic region, and at large. They taught that God saw the church organized not into denominational camps, but along geographical lines. They expected that in the coming last days, the various Christian denominations would dissolve, and the true church would coalesce into citywide churches under the leadership of the newly-restored apostles and prophets. This theme was recurrent among the Kansas City Prophets of the 1980s.
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* Laying on of hands. Unlike mainstream Pentecostalism, which holds that the baptism of the Holy Spirit usually comes after prolonged “tarrying” or waiting for the Spirit, the Latter Rain movement taught that the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit can be imparted on one believer by another through the laying on of hands. This impartation was not given to the body at large, but to specifically selected or qualified leaders.
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* The fivefold ministry. The Latter Rain taught that of the five ministerial roles mentioned in Ephesians 4:11 (apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher), the foundational roles of apostle and prophet had been lost after the time of the first apostles, but God was restoring these ministries in the present day. This theme has continued to this day, and has been recently rebranded by C. Peter Wagner as the “New Apostolic Reformation”
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* The Manifest(ed) Sons of God. Some leaders of the Latter Rain movement taught that as the end of the age approached, a select group of “overcomers” would arise within the Church. These Manifest Sons of God would receive the “spiritual bodies” mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15. They would become immortal, and receive a number of divine gifts, including the ability to change their physical appearance, to speak any language, to teleport from place to place, and to perform divine healings and other miracles. They would complete the Great Commission, spreading the gospel throughout the world, and at last usher in the millennial reign of Christ.
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*Pentecostal scholar Richard Riss wrote a master’s Thesis on the Latter Rain, which was repackaged as a book entitled “The Latter Rain” and is available from Honeycomb Visual Productions in Canada. This book is supportive of the movement. It is one of the few scholarly works available on the topic. *Reg Layzell, The Pastor’s Pen (Vancouver, British Columbia: Mission Publishing, 1965) *Dick Iverson. The Journey, A Lifetime of Prophetic Moments (Portland, OR: Bible Temple Publishing, 1995) *Stanley Frodsham “With Signs Following”
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PRAY HONESTLY ALWAYS  AND ASK GOD  FIRST TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH
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Don Hanks

 I make no denial, I rightfully openly oppose all these false, bad professing Christians, Plymouth Brethren, Dispensationalist, Fundamentalists, Baptists  who wrongfully  promote Hatred towards the other Christians, the  Catholics, Pentecostals, Charismatic Christians and do now lie about them , slander them too, even on the net, even those in my own family, and I do openly demand these bad persons rightful prosecutions  or repentance
 
Yes I am quite open.. I have at least 8 internet sites fully detailing the TRUTHS I HAVE ENCOUNTERED.
 
 
1 In fact I believe, I do know  that the professing Christian Don Hanks  rather firstly  is  WRONG now  when he calls all socialists as being totally Unchristian persons for the way I read the New Testament Jesus and the apostles were socialist for sure, they gave to the poor people, cared about them too..  Imagine that I am also on his site mailing lists too and he now bashes one of his readers.. Gosh what will he do next.
 
2 He Don firstly also firstly did not write back to me ALONE.. he chose wrongfully to write to others about me.. very Unchristian.. but what else.. the ends seem to justify the means for him wrongfully.
 
3  And no one can deny my witness of the crooked Conservatives in Alberta, the bad Alliance pastors in Canada or the bad Christian Brethren in Canada.. or the facts about the bad Conservative  Prime Minister now too, no one.. yes, I did also  say that  Conservative Stephen Harper is a liar, an abuser, an ungodly persons, and where is the lie in that now as well? Many many others have said the same thing too.
 
I have been also in correspondence with James myself, and he even wrote to me before too.
 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:02 PM
To:  CONSERVATIVE Canada THENONCONFORMER
Subject: Fw: Email from Canadian on CMA member Stephen Harper

 

 
—– Original Message —–
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Email from Canadian on CMA member Stephen Harper
Hi Don,
How is this for starters.
and link to my website has others on C&MA too:  http://rock-to-salt.cephasministry.com
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btw Dave Hunt at Berean Call is pretty close to Brethren.
btw  Canadian also gave us Todd Bentley who started out as C&MA.
Blessings
James
On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:18 AM, DONALD HANK wrote:

 

James,
What would you like to forward to the non-conformer? Maybe a link to one of your articles?
I was browsing the Nonconformer web site and also saw an article about Brethren pastors. He says they are sneaky and never tell you what they really believe. I have found the local pastor of a Grace Brethren church to be impossible to pin down too.
His writing style is a little difficult.
Don
—– Original Message —–
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Email from Canadian on CMA member Stephen Harper
Hi Don,
I certainly did NOT know….thanks so much for this tip!
I have so many trainloads of bullying, spiritual abuse, fraud, false teachings in the CMA I could fill an 18 wheeler semi truck in Canada and the U.S.  Hope you will forward this to your colleague at the the NonConformer (even if he is not a colleague);
BLessings,
James
On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:33 AM, DONALD HANK wrote:
Hello James, 
Did you know that the Prime Minister of Canada is a Christian Missionary Alliance member?
Here is a complaint about him. I will try to get more info.
Blessings,
Don Hank
 
—– Original Message —–
From: thenonconformer
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Fw: [Laigle’s Forum Alert] Bulllies now run America
 
> Bullies now in charge of America
 
As far as I am rightfully concerned one of the Biggest bullies in Canada is the professing Christian Missionary alliance prime Minister Stephen Harper himself.. and next to that would be the liberal news media, Hollywood, the Jews, Muslims  and the bad cops  as well.. 

Hey Stephen Harper he  is just classical psychology study now too of an abuser, including his  rivalry, abuse,  and likely violence next. If you notice the following warning signs in a person  over a period of time, the potential for increased unacceptable physical  violence by them next also exists: 

The Classical symptoms :

a history of aggressive, abnormal, offensive behavior

serious drug or alcohol abuse

gang membership or strong desire to be accepted by the gang, to be in a gang

threatening others regularly

trouble controlling feelings like anger

withdrawal from good friends and from the normal, usual, acceptable  activities

visibly feeling rejected or alone

having been a victim of bullying, or now being a bully themselves

poor school or job performance

history of discipline problems or frequent run-ins with authority

feeling constantly disrespected

failing to acknowledge the feelings  rights of others

or failing to acknowledge  the abuse of others

access to or fascination with weapons, especially guns

When you recognize these unacceptable future increased violence warning signs in someone else deal with it.   Hoping that someone else will deal with the situation is still false way out.  

Get  educated now, and know more on  how to effectively deal with abuses, Bullies and abusive persons today. 

So the still mostly useless Albertan Prime Minister Stephen Harper and federal Justice Minister Rob Nicholson MP want to get tough on the young offenders, instead of on the parents, show to us all how ignorantly they are and very poor parents now too.. They clearly themselves firstly need to be educated.

If you are being verbally, physically, sexually abused do not hesitate to bring the matter into the open, tell your colleagues, friends and neighbors about it, your church pastors, elders too, congregation members, ands even do call the police. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons always serves everyone’s best interests.  

 http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/coping-with-personal-unresolved-stress/


 
Do I really believe that our bad Conservative Prime Minister will change for the good? NO. Now how clearer can I be about that too.. Zebras do not change their stripes as well.. 
 

“He will say anything to retain power.” “I don’t have confidence in him to deliver what he says now, because what we have experienced with Mr. Harper is that he will say anything and then reverse himself,”    When it comes to politics, NDP Leader Jack Layton also says 2008 taught him one certainty: don’t trust the prime minister. , Layton also now says that all hope that Stephen Harper’s minority Conservative government was willing to work with other parties to get things done has died. 

 

 

 

 

 

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A pastor of the House of prayer church was gloating that the local Pentecostal church had  last night removed their pastor, and House of prayer pastor next was  boasting how good he was and how lucky his congregation now was to have him while the same House of prayer church  pastor was   meanwhile being even accused of stealng funds, the slander of others as well. (Prov 27:2 KJV)  Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

 The general manager of a Pawn shop had asked me to inspect the used computers he had taken in. In the process many times I had noticed that the manager and his brother were stealing from the store, taking unpaid items home for themselves. Next I noticed the same thing being done by the store clerks. When I reported what I saw the store clerks doing the manager in rage immediately fired two of the sales clerks. But he did not fire himself or his brother. Double standard. Sadly I have too often seen this myself firsthand also in evangelical churches where the  pastors and their family members were abusing the donations while they hypocritically were preaching  to others “you shall not steal”   All of  their own personal repentance is still in order!

A professing Christian couple were church hopping, weekly  travelling from church to church looking for that great perfect church that would add a new dimensions to their lives. Unfortunately the couple would not admit they that their own unrepentant sins were the cause of their own Misery, and they next divorced each other, each falsely blaming the other spouse as the cause of their personal unhappiness.
 
(Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. 
 
>People usually accuse others of what they are guilty themselves!  
>Dear thenonconformer you are the one who is the accuser of the brethren, not me?
 
My getting personal again.. you like to  give it to others but can’t take a rebuke yourself ehh.. Please do Stop telling any others what to do .. live it yourself.. what you are speak louder than any of your words. Many people try to falsey bash others, try to change others cause they know they cannot even change themselves now.
 
Personal attacks made falsely next when you cannot deny the facts, the negative truths. So what else is new  the Ostriches here too they  cannot take the huge beam out of their own eyes, they are a poor example of Christianity, do not practice what they preach to others, they still do what they condemn in others . No wonder they oppose other persons right of free speech, the truth. Some things never change. The bad guys included. They love the false praise of men over  being praised by god too. But all men have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Cursed be he that puts his trust in mere man, mere flesh. It is viable that too much of the supposedly  Christian posts here are done in the flesh still and not in the spirit of God. What Happened to their own practice real Christian love, humility, meekness on their parts? Too many preachers, pastors like to preach it to others but do not live it themselves. Repent.
 
(1 Cor 4:21 KJV)  What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?
 
(2 Cor 10:1 KJV)  Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:
 
(Gal 5:23 KJV)  Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
 
(Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
 
(Eph 4:2 KJV)  With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
 
(Col 3:12 KJV)  Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
 
(1 Tim 6:11 KJV)  But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
 
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
 
(Titus 3:2 KJV)  To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.
 
(James 1:21 KJV)  Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
 
(James 3:13 KJV)  Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
 
(1 Pet 3:15 KJV)  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
 
“Hey you self righteous supposedly Christian guys and gals just look at yourself. your lack of love towards others, even your supposed enemies is more reflective of who you still are. Get a real life in Jesus. the Evangelical Christian ostriches who deny their sins are still going to Hell and they like to bash others but cannot face or see the truth about themselves. The vipers like you, the Pharisees condemned Jesus also for telling the truth about them too and so do you still even here. When you condemn the others you visibly even condemn yourself as well here.”
 
Look who is hypocritically, wrongfully  accusing me now   firstly  TIM himself.. you got so personal with someone you do not know, never met as well.. and such a hypocrite now too you are.. yes too many evangelicals, pastors included like you TIM are not known for playing nice, accepting the truth easily, they like to play dirty, bash, bully, abuse others, make unrelated personal smears, attacks.. showing more clearly to all what they still really are like.. undeniable bad guys. but they that is normal for this is how the bad persons ..they often treated the prophets, apostles as well and still do.
 
Never the less  the Holy Spirit  he will still also reprove the world of sin, judgment, righteousness.. and not be an Ostrich to their sins, wrong doings
    
I also do not think much of control freaks, bullies too  and do   see also my many posts on how to deal with control freaks.. abusers.. for example
 
One is not a Christian for too long before one encounters the dispensationalist topics of Prophecy- Tribulation, the anti Christ, such as http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com    the same  people who seem to be more fascinated with the future over living in the present.. Now one thing for certainly I know as well many of these overboard persons tend to have very little love for others, other Christians in reality, and I can only concluded that they really are not led by the Holy Sprit, are not open to the fruit and gifts of the Holy Spirit as well.. (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
   
(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
10:1  Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3  And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5  But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6  Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7  Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8  Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9  Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10  Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11  Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
13  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14  Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
15  I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
16  The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17  For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
18  Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19  What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20  But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
22  Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
23  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
24  Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth.
 
(John 8:12 KJV)  Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
 
(John 12:35 KJV)  Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. 36  While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.
 
(John 12:46 KJV)  I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
 
(Rom 2:18 KJV)   And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; 19  And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, 20  An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. 21  Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 22  Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 23  Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
 
(1 Th 5:4 KJV)  But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
 
(1 John 1:3KJV)   That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4  And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
  
(1 John 2:8KJV)   Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10  He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
(2 Cor 3:2 KJV)  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
 
TOO MANY PEOPLE FALSELY THINK THEY ARE HIDING THEIR UNREPENTANT SINS, THEY GOT AWAY WITH THEM. GOD STILL SEES THEM. SO DOES THE DEVIL AND THE WORLD NOW AS WELL.
 
(Mat 22:32 KJV)  God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
 
(Rom 14:17 KJV)  For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
 
(1 Cor 4:20 KJV)  For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
 
(1 Cor 14:33 KJV)  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 
 
I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counseling divorce,  gossiping, slandering, lying,  and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there  was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship  with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counseling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.
 
Alliance Churches,  Calgary Christian center, Centre Street Evangelical Missionary Church,  United Church   , Full Gospel Churches,  Baptist Churches, Evangelical Free, Victory Christian Fellowship,   First Assembly (Pentecostal), Salvation Army,   Don Ross Ministries and the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship; to name a few.  And you should let another man praise you and not yourself.. I moved to Calgary at the age of 35 in 1980 and I had been a Christian  for 20 years before that and for the next 15 years I in contrast could not find one decent honest Christian Pastor or Church in Calgary, in my witness they were all bunch of racists, social clubs, adulterers, liars, slanderers, gossipers, thieves, rich minded persons who despised the poor people etc.., Calgary was the third  most unspiritual place I have been to in Canada

But eventually  one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

(Micah 3:6 KJV)  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

The most crooked pastors I had encountered in Canada were those in Alberta too… Here also you can start with ex Calgary Christian center, the Calgary First Alliance church, the Calgary Salvation Army.  I also remember also hearing about that great Conservative myth on promised full accountability, governmental transparency, a better form of governing, and the Harper- Conservative government lies go on and on, fooling only the Conservatives as to who they really are still, liars..

 I had good reasons supposedly for not  Pastoring  once, one of which was there now supposedly  were plenty of other good Pastors, much better Pastors than me  around..  and both arguments were lies as God himself next showed me  firsthand when I interviewed about 45 evangelical pastors.. even about their marital counseling practices… which is almost none! This is also really surprising when  about 70 percent of all people even in the  churches  tend to have major marital problems sooner or later.. Pretender, liar and that is so typical of evangelical pastors in Canada, elders, and  pastors of the false  Christian Missionary Alliance church now too. I wrote about this false church before too. No wonder most of the evangelical pastors as well do  commit adultery, or steal,  commit tax evasions, gossip, slander, abuse others   and falsely counsel divorce now too. In reality 70 percent of all of the the pastors are still really bad, still doing a real bad job.. for  firstly they tend not to use the Bible at all in their own  personal counseling  practices but rather they  tend to do use an  immoral, humanistic, psychological approach, or they simple say get divorced and  wrongfully too.  Their actual daily usage of the Bible, not books really can show you how good or bad pastors they still are,  and never mind what useless Bible college or commentary also that they graduated from still.

Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the  Pastors,  even though this may be an honest expectation, for  our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him.

Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man, or women,  and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders  and you certainly will next not be disappointed.

Because of my poor health I have had to retire from a physically active Ministry and next many people could not understand how I could be by myself alone, for such long periods of time, and for me it is very easy for I have Jesus to go directly to talk with, I do prefer his company above all others rightfully too. Learn to talk to Him directly about your concerns, not firstly the Pastors!!

(Luke 9:36 KJV)  And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.

(John 8:9 KJV)  And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst

Secondly the majority of these pastors they do not provide at all any real counseling help to their own flock in need even  in their own churches, and especially not related to  marital,  employment problems also even in Evangelical, Pentecostal churches. This  approach of their is  not really pastoring.. this is stealing money from the sheep!
 
Sadly most pastors  seem to want to only to preach, to  talk big and to be praised for it, to be  recognized, and admired by the others, for they tend to have a false, big ego that they want filled, but they still wrongfully not want to do also the real work, the dirty work at the sheep’s level.. Yes these same pastoral hypocrites also do  falsely tend to lie, slander others , gossip and also to delegate blame on one of the spouses even  in a martial problem situation, even with  invalid still reasons, basically for them not  to personally get involved.   The pastor would say something like  the husband or the wife  was at fault.. so the pastor is still talking only about the negative symptoms of a real marital problem,  and what is he real or false solution rather.. pass the buck wrongfully still to the others? Unacceptable and  I would rightfully not give any of my money at all to this type of Pastor or  his Church!
 
Pastoral marriage counseling it is also still mandatory for all Pastors, all of them too, it is mandatory still that they do also help each and every sheep in their flock, and do home visits as well..   and these two also are not optional.. but sadly majority of Pastors  they really still do not have love for the sheep.. and doing the dirtier jobs they wrongfully run away for it.. and God himself told me that this was all was immorally acts on the part of both of these pastors.. I never run away from any hard counseling.. for  I got God to help me.. Do thus  tell the pastor that up to 70 percent of the people have marriage problems, it is always the biggest pastoral need too..  and if he does not do this work than he is really not a real pastor..  just another hireling, or a wolf in sheep clothing..
 
You do clearly also have my permission to send these remarks  to them as well! I have already personally fired about 25 pastors in my life time.. and I do not hesitate to publicly expose them, rebuke them rightfully  remove them from office still.. any of the bad ones..
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.  (Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.  (Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;  (1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.  (2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.  (Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;  (Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.  (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.  Better to be rebuked by me than God next directly, for God then will not be so forgiving..
 
(Psa 18:39 KJV)  For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me 40  Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me. 41  They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not. 42  Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets.
 
(Psa 18:46 KJV)  The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted. 47 It is God that avengeth me, and subdueth the people under me. 48  He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/

The trouble with anyone lying is that soon one will likely end up believing in one’s  own lies and one tends to  live out the lies next, to act upon their false delusions. This applies to people who lie to the courts, to politicians who lie to the citizens as well.. to Pastors who lie to their congregations.. Now I have personally seen this happen many times .. For example a pastor was personally asked to repent of his own  immorality. His own family asked him if the charges were true. The pastor replied you cannot believe anything the persons says he is crazy.. Soon the pastor’s family started to worry about this supposedly crazy person. To keep up the pretense the pastor even bought next a bullet proof car for protection for himself. This increased the stress upon his own family.. They lived out the pastor’s lie.. This was a punishment for the lies now as well. This same truth applies to ANYONE, Minister, lawyers, spouses  who lie to us or the courts  too. In the end the pastor still  lost his church anyway, because he next was still exposed for his wrong doings, cause you cannot lie to everyone.. some people saw the truth.. and did something good about it too.. they let the Pastor go.
 
 (Isa 29:15 KJV)  Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? (Psa 138:6 KJV)  Though the LORD be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off.
 
(Jer 23:16 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.
 
God called me to be a Pastor, to minister full time to his people, but I did not accept it , in fact not next for about 20 years, and I had many false excuses.. excuses like  I was praying for the other people, pastors, even one specifically who next turned out to be an adulterer and he had children by another person who was not his wife.. and God next dealt with me through a series of negative dramatic events like the loss of my job, health, family, even still  I had another excuse too I was too bad of a sinner to be a pastor to which God replied and said if a gay pastor can pastor so can you.. that finally broke all my excuses too I agreed to be a Pastor for God.. God then had said to me enough is enough I am tired of you living a self indulged life serving vanities, and now next you will usefully work for me.. and testify of me even before “Kings and Queens”.. which I did for the next 20 years too.
 
Now there are still also at least six major things wrong with the North Americanized Gospel being preached falsely today even worldwide,
 
1 It is mostly man centered religion and not rather God centered, it still tends to exalts man, self, pride..not rather solely Jesus Christ ….
 
(2 Tim 3:1 KJV) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
 
and not rather (1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
 
Furthermore it is undeniably clear that too many pastors, elders  are even  wrongfully pursing secular wealth, the owning of bigger and better homes, working at insuring adequate pensions moneys for themselves while neglecting to minister to the physical, spiritual needs of God’s people.
 
Did you know that Marriage counseling is the main and biggest ministry  today, it is the big need in churches today and yet still most pastor do even wrongfully refuse to do it, they rather even too many of them do wrongfully counsel divorce..
 
On the one hand many preachers preach that we all must live daily by faith, by faith in God to supply all of our needs but on the other hand they clearly beg for money, donations, even by wayoff mailing lists too.. they look unto man to supply their needs and not God in reality.. to me this is both hypocritical and contradictory and unacceptable.. to me these people are still the “Hirelings” that Jesus spoke about, even the “money changes” he kicked out of the temple, those people who instead of freely giving, put copyrights on their material and sell it to others.. for sadly too many even professing Christians have still even now made their the acquisition, pursuit of money, the false love for all of the things that money can buy, as their false idol, and one of their false goal in life, and as a result they now personally do not really have love for God, love for his people or love for others… and this is still really unacceptable to God.
 
“God demands also of the Pastor that he be holy, and he should be. There are more people walking in the counsel of the pastors than any other class of men in the world. When they are sad, they are glad to counsel with their pastor, and when they are happy and enjoying life, they delight in telling their pastor. So his counsel is constantly being sought and his advice taken. God pity the pastor who though does not feel the responsibility.”
 
The Old Testament book of Malachi was written to specifically to Pastors stealing God’s money.. and going along with divorce wrongfully too.  I have been a treasurer, church secretary and a wittiness and I have too often seen pastors and elders stealing the donated money for wrong personal use.. and often.. it is only a really big shock the first time..
 
In reality the majority of Pastors today are ungodly, and so out of curiosity I interviewed many, many of them personally to see how they arrived at that poor spiritual state.. a state of cheating, lying, stealing, slandering, gossiping, committing sexual immoralities too..  I have actually directly interviewed about 75 evangelical pastors, and I helped to fire about 12 or more of them too.. and most Pastors almost all did not pray daily or read their bible daily, or even use the Bible in counseling.. sad.. they are hireling, pretenders, imposters. Some of the most crooked Pastor I met were clearly not called for the ministry and I specifically asked them how they went into the ministry,, A really bad pastor that I loved used to preach out of books and not the Bible, he used to always ask for a monetary raise every time it seems one person was saved or added to the church, like many pastors I met he also liked to rig the supposedly fair church elections for the persons of his choice to the positions too. Trying to be nice , hoping to change him I asked him two personal questions. Pastor did God specifically call you into the Ministry? and is their such thing as power to live a Christian life? He replied no to both questions.. so how can he teach, lead others? he could not.. he was drastically removed. The reason he because a Pastor was that he wanted his Masters of Business administration but he could not afford to go to college so he went to Bible collage, and running the church was the same as running a business he said to me..Boy he needed to be pastored himself but his unrepentant sins stopped this. And he lost his church eventually, the church he had founded for he was exposed for not being called to the minsitry.. not equipped by it. Over 40 percent of pastors are fired more than once it seems..
 
Now as far as personally Giving.. a clearly separate subject.. We are to give of ourselves personally daily to God… and then all we have is his to use as he wills.. furthermore the Book of acts says we are in the local church to also firstly give to the poor Christians, and not only to the pastors, building funds, missionaries.. and how many churches now actually do this these days give to the poor.. it is the government who does it rather.. it supplies the social aid.
 
I am also not against voluntary tithing to the Lord Jesus Christ, or voluntary giving to the Lord Jesus Christ, AND to the poor persons. I am against trying to earn, buy your way into heaven, and also giving on the too often false man defined mandates that the still mostly false pastors themselves do define it.. by the too many mostly false pastors?
 
A personal desire to be a Pastor is not enough.. for you have to be specially be first called directly by God for the Ministry.. My own father agreed with me today on this and he said that was the biggest reason we have so many bad pastors, they were not called by God for the ministry
 
By the way the term Pastor is only mentioned once in the whole New Testament and why? cause there are many other offices God calls us to as well.. like the office of a Missionary, Apostle, prophet, evangelist, healing, elder, deacon, minister, etc., It is my rightful view view that Churches are not at all run by any Pastor, but RUN only by Jesus Christ and the elders (always plural), and note this they are all shepherds.. all of the elders i.e. apostles, prophets, teachers are all the shepherds of the Church)Pastor as plural too is mentioned only once in the NEW TESTAMENT and yet a whole false doctrine of their sole importance today is made, and that reference Pastor included also apostles, prophets, evangelist, and I do not care to believe in the still mostly lies of men but only what the Bible teaches itself.
 
(2 Cor 9:10 KJV) Now he that MINISTEReth seed to the sower both MINISTER bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
 
(Heb 13:17 KJV) Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
 
Thus the Pastors need to obey as well the existing Apostles and the existing prophets today..
The New Testament word MINISTER rightfully used to mean to be a humble shepherd feeding God’s flock but today it sadly has visible connotations of an air of superiority, of abusing others, of being worshipped, admired, being served upon, of self exaltations and self service even. Too many Pastors seem also do not like to be called SHEPHERDS, THEY LIKE TO USE THE SECULAR WORD LEADERS.. even a captain of the ship.. and this makes me think of “Mutiny on the Bounty”. Pastos, elders are al servants who are to minister to all of God’s people.
(Rev 21:4 KJV)  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 
(Eccl 8:13 KJV)  But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.
 
(Psa 5:4 KJV)  For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
 
(Deu 24:16 KJV)  The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
 
(Psa 33:17 KJV)  An horse is a vain thing for safety: neither shall he deliver any by his great strength.
 
(Exo 20:23 KJV)  Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.
 
(Lev 26:1 KJV)  Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
 
(2 Ki 17:38 KJV)  And the covenant that I have made with you ye shall not forget; neither shall ye fear other gods.
 
(Isa 43:10 KJV)  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
 
(Lev 11:44 KJV)  For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy:
 
(Isa 32:6 KJV)  For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practice hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail. 7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
 
All, absolutely all persons who deviate from the words of God found in the Bible are deviates, perverts, liars, that includes any Church elders, pastors, members, adherents. Those who lie do have a hidden agenda, it includes the false exaltation of self and the false oppression of others.
 
One of Satan’s agendas is to dominate, oppress all human beings and do note  this is also the agenda of his followers, of all those persons whole live in the flesh and not by the spirit of God. Jesus has come to set us free even free, from slavery to any others too,  from sin and it’s consequences, and not rather to put us again into bondage, even more false bondage.. so beware of men, even of preachers, watch out always too.. and watch out especially for those who quote other men’s words, who put forth their own words,  and still do claim they are God’s words ..

(Mat 20:26 KJV) But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your MINISTER;

(Mat 20:28 KJV) Even as the Son of man came not to be MINISTERed unto, but to MINISTER, and to give his life a ransom for many.

(Mat 25:44 KJV) Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not MINISTER unto thee?

(Rom 15:16 KJV) That I should be the MINISTER of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, MINISTERing the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

(Rom 15:25 KJV) But now I go unto Jerusalem to MINISTER unto the saints.

(Rom 15:27 KJV) It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to MINISTER unto them in carnal things.

(Eph 3:7 KJV) Whereof I was made a MINISTER, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power

Once again the words man, men, MINISTER to me are generic terms, includes male and females, both male and females can be shepherds in the house of God?

(1 Pet 5:2 KJV) Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

(Jer 48:10 KJV) Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.

(Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Note the sole New Testament reference to the term Pastor is still only a plural one.. and also clearly along with with the presently existing other gifted offices now too.Truly I am rightfully disappointed with those Pastors who to elevate their own self importance mislead others, misquote the Bible by even now making the term “pastor” a singular term only.. a fact not supported in the New Testament Bible. There are many shepherds of the one local church, flock, many pastors, not just the one. These false pastors would like us also all to believe that they are the individual owners of the sheep as well and we have to obey them in all things. But Personal Submission is always mutual and voluntary.

(Eph 4:11 KJV) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

(1 Cor 16:16 KJV) That ye submit yourselves unto such, and to every one that helpeth with us, and laboureth.

and now if God had called, hired you then next he directly will pay you.. does not even your secular employer pay you after you have been hired.. but if you have not been hired by a firm then you cannot expect them to pay you,..

1 Tim 6:10 KJV) For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows

(John 2:15 KJV) And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;

(John 2:16 KJV) And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.

(Mat 10:8 KJV) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

(Mat 10:9 KJV) Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

and there’s also a verse that says that you shouldn’t muzzle an ox while it’s threshing.

Too sadly I have actually heard this verse quoted by mamy persons justifying stealing from their employers..

The issues THAT I have dealt with here TOO are important, issues that I personally have been concerned with the last 35 years to they are issues that need to be dealt with still.
 
In my own life time I have seen many supposedly sincere, even hard working pastors, most pastors next fired from their jobs next, and often unexpectedly. Why? They firstly sought their own agenda, preached their own message, not God’s. They were rebellious to God.
 
(Prov 25:14 KJV)  Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.
 
(Psa 104:3 KJV)  Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: 4  Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
 
(Eccl 11:5 KJV)  As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.
 
When Pharaoh refused to listen to Moses to let his people go and worship him God sent plagues upon pharaoh.. when people of Israel disobeyed God sent negative plagues upon them.. God does the same thing today as well.. believe it or not too, even upon individuals, cities, states, provinces, nations too.
 
(Jer 5:5 KJV)  I will get me unto the great men, and will speak unto them; for they have known the way of the LORD, and the judgment of their God: but these have altogether broken the yoke, and burst the bonds.  6  Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities: every one that goeth out thence shall be torn in pieces: because their transgressions are many, and their backslidings are increased. 7  How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses. 8  They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour’s wife. 9  Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this? 10  Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD’S. 11  For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD. 12  They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine: 13  And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
 
(Jer 7:2 KJV)  Stand in the gate of the Lord’s house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD. 3  Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place. 4  Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. 5  For if ye thoroughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye thoroughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour; 6  If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt: 7  Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever. 8  Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. 9  Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; 10  And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? 11  Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD. 12  But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel. 13  And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the LORD, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not; 14  Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh. 15  And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim. 16  Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.
 
(Jer 7:20 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.
 
(Jer 7:23 KJV)  But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.24   But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
 
(Jer 7:28 KJV)  But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.
 
(Isa 30:10 KJV)  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
 
(Isa 65:5 KJV)  Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.
 
(Jer 21:13 KJV)  Behold, I am against thee, O inhabitant of the valley, and rock of the plain, saith the LORD; which say, Who shall come down against us? or who shall enter into our habitations?
 
(Ezek 11:3 KJV)  Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh.
 
(Amos 4:1 KJV)  Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink. 2  The Lord GOD hath sworn by his holiness, that, lo, the days shall come upon you, that he will take you away with hooks, and your posterity with fishhooks.
 
(Amos 9:10 KJV)  All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.
 
(Mat 23:16 KJV)  Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
 
(Rev 2:2 KJV)  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
 
(Rev 3:9 KJV)  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 
(Lev 19:12 KJV)  And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
 
(Deu 18:19 KJV)  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
 
(Deu 18:20 KJV)  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
 
(2 Chr 7:16 KJV)  For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.
 
(Isa 42:8 KJV)  I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
 
(Isa 43:7 KJV)  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
 
(Isa 48:11 KJV)  For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
 
(Isa 52:6 KJV)  Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
 
(Jer 7:10 KJV)  And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.12  But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.
 
(Jer 7:14 KJV)  Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.
 
(Jer 7:30 KJV)  For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.
 
(Jer 12:16 KJV)  And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, The LORD liveth; as they taught my people to swear by Baal; then shall they be built in the midst of my people.
 
(Jer 14:14 KJV)  Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
 
(Jer 14:15 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.
 
(Jer 16:21 KJV)  Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.
 
(Jer 23:25 KJV)  I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
 
(Jer 23:27 KJV)  Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
 
(Jer 25:29 KJV)  For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.
 
(Jer 27:15 KJV)  For I have not sent them, saith the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.
 
(Jer 29:9 KJV)  For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.
 
(Jer 29:23 KJV)  Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.
 
(Jer 32:34 KJV)  But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.
 
(Jer 34:15 KJV)  And ye were now turned, and had done right in my sight, in proclaiming liberty every man to his neighbour; and ye had made a covenant before me in the house which is called by my name:16  But ye turned and polluted my name, and caused every man his servant, and every man his handmaid, whom he had set at liberty at their pleasure, to return, and brought them into subjection, to be unto you for servants and for handmaids.
 
(Zec 5:4 KJV)  I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.
 
(Mat 24:5 KJV)  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
 
(John 15:16 KJV)  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
 
(Acts 15:17 KJV)  That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

 It seems in reality that at least 70 percent of pastors, including evangelicals ones, even in Alberta too, in North America commit adultery and/or counsel divorce, cause sadly they are clearly too often still sex maniacs. Note unrepentant sins are often exposed openly in the Bible now too, shouted from the housetops

You have to be called directly, personally by God to be a pastor,. and God will next give you the love for the job, the people, he will God equip you for all of the tasks.. still sadly many Pastors still are not God called, but self chosen..
A pastor’s commitment next to his people includes first keeping his commitment to serve God firstly, not man or self.. A pastor admitted to me he did not have a full commitment to God.. I was shocked at his still corruption

It was a great shock to me when I had switched over to the Pentecostal faith from the Brethren, Baptist faith to see just as many bad and, crooked pastors there now too.. 

Pastors too, no matter to what or to whom you attribute the sin in your life, you are still a sinner that is going to hell unless you overcome that sin by Jesus Christ

The BASIC issue about too many bad pastors even these days now is not just about the Pentecostal PASTORS but the subject OF TOO MANY bad pastors we seem to have in most denominations still too and STILL why?

Even because many of these BAD people, bad pastors EVEN THE too often false critics are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too. They need to grow up spiritually as well. Are any of you, Pastors, elders, now claiming to be a better teacher, guide than the Holy Spirit himself? so where is your evidence of being spirit filled, evidence of real love too?

Where is the power of God that we see in the Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible?

Follow the Anointing Luke 4:14 “And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” Over the years many have questioned the lack of power in their Baptism of the Holy Spirit as opposed to what they read in Scripture and the New Testament and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Sadly too often the pastors tend to be legalists sadly.. control freaks, abusive persons due to a false pride, and their religion rather too often a mere cultural movement, it seems..

I had to call the police against a crooked AOG pastor who was abusing me, stealing money, stealing from his flock in my witness too. I am known for and I like to deal with the whole truth too..

Pastors too often still do falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also too often do still preach. Pastors have to firstly be a good example of what they preach to others as well..

So the other real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word , Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit.. and the answer is yes… all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.

“The Christian church needs a whole lot less showmanship and a lot more humble leaders who work patiently and persistently in their local congregations for the growth of God’s people in faith, in love and in hope. “

Mercy is given by God to those who repent for a start.,, not those who claim they have like Tim the false accuser of the good brethren still too

while their own actions show the reality they still really have not really repented now personaly..

Anyone saw the proof that even Todd Bentley had repented? The topic  crooked pastors… a too common undeniable reality theses days in Canada too

Still all Pastors need to take the beam out of their own eyes before preaching to others still too.. I rightfully would rather see a sermon personally practiced over one merely falsely preached to others. I was shocked that not only adultery is a common pastor problem still but so is alcohol.. and what else? lying, slander, abuse of others..

(2 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

Would you still  believe it that one person next still wrote back to me and said he could not understand what I  had written that was so bad even about him, of what his sins were, their false  denial of their personal sins is so deep, they have been abusing others, sinning so long that it has become natural, acceptable to them.
 
(Mat 18:6 KJV)  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
 
(Mat 18:7 KJV)  Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
 
(Mat 18:8 KJV)  Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
 
(Mat 18:9 KJV)  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
 
(Mat 18:10 KJV)  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
 
 

 

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Someone said that Hell is here on earth for a start.. based on the number of daily viruses, Trojans increasing now that seems to be true..  Tech-savvy users willing to put up with an at-times annoying interface, as well as a daily pop-up ad, might prefer the stronger malware detection rate in Avira AntiVir Personal, which took top billing in the free AV ratings. Microsoft’s New Free Antivirus Hits the Streets. MSE, now available for download, Microsoft Security Essentials is a rerun no one should watch.   The free Security Essentials can be downloaded for Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7 from the Microsoft Web site.
 
The following is a list of tools and utilities that I too also would  like to suggest to people. This list is full of great tools and utilities to help you understand how you got infected and how to keep from getting infected again.
  1. Spybot Search & Destroy – Uber powerful tool which can search and annhilate nasties that make it onto your system. Now with an Immunize section that will help prevent future infections.
  2. AdAware – Another very powerful tool which searches and kills nasties that infect your system. AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy compliment each other very well.
  3. SpywareBlaster – Great prevention tool to keep nasties from installing on your system.    

  4. CleanUP! – Cleans temporary files from IE and Windows, empties the recycle bin and more. Great tool to help speed up your computer and knock out those nasties that like to reside in the temp folders.
  5. Windows Updates – It is very important to make sure that both Internet Explorer and Windows are kept current with the latest critical security patches from Microsoft. To do this just start Internet Explorer and select Tools > Windows Update, and follow the online instructions from there.
  6. ZonedOut + IE-SpyAd – puts over 5000 sites in your restricted zone so you’ll be protected when you visit innocent-looking sites that aren’t actually innocent at all.
  7. Trillian or Miranda-IM – These are Malware free Instant Messenger programs which allow you to connect to multiple IM services in one program! (AOL, Yahoo, ICQ, IRC, MSN)
  8. ERUNT (Emergency Recovery Utility NT) allows you to keep a complete backup of your registry and restore it when needed. The standard registry backup options that come with Windows back up most of the registry but not all of it. ERUNT however creates a complete backup set, including the Security hive and user related sections. ERUNT is easy to use and since it creates a full backup, there are no options or choices other than to select the location of the backup files. The backup set includes a small executable that will launch the registry restore if needed.
  9. Recovery Console – Recent trends appear to indicate that future infections will include attacks to the boot sector of the computer. The installation of the Recovery Console in the computer will be our only defense against this threat. For more information and steps to install the Recovery Console see This Article. Should you need assistance in installing the Recovery Console, please do not hesitate to ask.
To find out more information about how you got infected in the first place and some great guidelines to follow to prevent future infections you can read this article by Tony Klein and this one by Miekiemoes.
 You usually get infected because your security settings are too low.

”  You usually get infected because your security settings are too low.Let’s also not forget that SpyBot Search and Destroy has the Immunize feature which works roughly the same way.
It can’t hurt to use both.
6) IE-SPYAD

puts over 5000 sites in your restricted zone, so you’ll be protected when you visit innocent-looking sites that aren’t actually innocent at all.
7) The IE hosts file blocks ads, banners, cookies, web bugs, and even most hijackers. This is accomplished by blocking the Server that supplies these little gems.
Example – the following entry 127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net blocks all files supplied by the DoubleClick Server to the web page you are viewing. This also prevents the server from tracking your movements.It Now includes most major parasites, hijackers and unwanted Search Engines!
In many cases this can speed the loading of web pages by not having to wait for these ads, banners, hit counters, etc. to load.
This also helps to protect your Privacy by blocking
servers

that track your viewing habits, known as “click-thru tracking”.
However as time has progressed the focus of this project has changed from blocking ads/banners to protecting the user from the many parasites that now exist on the Internet. It doesn’t serve much purpose if you block the ad banner from displaying, but get hijacked by a parasite from an evil script or download contained on the web site. The object is to surf faster while preserving your Safety, Security and Privacy.

Incidentally, another site with an enormous amount of information on computer security, and which is well worth a visit is http://www.wilderssecurity.com/

 

 

Finally, after following up on all these recommendations, why not run Jason Levine’s Browser Security Tests.

They will provide you with an insight on how vulnerable you might still be to a number of common exploits.
If you are using XP or windows 2000 or 2003 then this application will also help a lot to prevent hijacking
https://www.prevx.com

 

And make sure your Antivirus and firewall is switched on and kept updated 

__________________
Derek
Microsoft MVP/Windows – Security ”

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t188362.html

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t188362.html

What do you recommend?

“Here are a number of good recommendations that will help tighten them, and which will contribute to making you a less likely victim:
1) Watch what you download!
Many freeware programs, and P2P programs like Grokster, Imesh, Kazaa and others are amongst the most notorious, come with an enormous amount of bundled spyware that will eat system resources, slow down your system, clash with other installed software, or just plain crash your browser or even Windows itself.

 

2) Go to IE > Tools > Windows Update > Product Updates, and install ALL Security Updates listed.
It’s important to always keep current with the latest security fixes from Microsoft. Install those patches for Internet Explorer, and make sure your installation of Java VM is up-to-date. There are some well known security bugs with Microsoft Java VM which are exploited regularly by browser hijackers.

3) Go to Internet Options/Security/Internet, press ‘default level’, then OK.
Now press “Custom Level.”
In the ActiveX section, set the first two options (“Download signed and unsigned ActiveX controls) to ‘prompt’, and ‘Initialize and Script ActiveX controls not marked as safe” to ‘disable’.

Now you will be asked whether you want ActiveX objects to be executed and whether you want software to be installed.
Sites that you know for sure are above suspicion can be moved to the Trusted Zone in Internet Option/security.

So why is activex so dangerous that you have to increase the security for it?
When your browser runs an activex control, it is running an executable program. It’s no different from doubleclicking an exe file on your hard drive.
Would you run just any random file downloaded off a web site without knowing what it is and what it does?

And some more advice:

4) Install Javacool’s SpywareBlaster

It will protect you from all spy/foistware in it’s database by blocking installation of their ActiveX objects.
Download and install, download the latest updates, and you’ll see a list of all spyware programs covered by the program (NOTE: this is NOT spyware found on your computer)
Press “select all”, then “kill all checked”, and you’re done.
The spyware that you told Spywareblaster to set the “kill bit” for won’t be a hazard to you any longer.
Although it won’t protect you from every form of spyware known to man, it is a very potent extra layer of protection.
Don’t forget to check for updates every week or so.

5) Another brilliant program by Javacool we recommend is SpywareGuard.

It provides a degree of real-time protection solution against spyware that is a great addition to SpywareBlaster’s protection method.
An anti-virus program scans files before you open them and prevents execution if a virus is detected – SpywareGuard does the same thing, but for spyware! And you can easily have an anti-virus program running alongside SpywareGuard. It now also features Download Protection and Browser Hijacking Protection!

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