Politics- Political, corruptions, inducements, Christians, Alcoholics

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Provincial governments in Canada are making record breaking profits by encouraging the citizens to consume even more  alcohol, beer and are making even  more even by the  taxation of these products. They should not be  encouraging the citizens to do so.
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Our Canadian Christian evangelical Prime Minister Stephen Harper makes an essential stop at the Irish Guinness brewery, he sure has fooled all those fundamental western Christians who voted from him cause they had been lied to that he was an Christian evangelical abstainer    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/canada-pm-arrives-in-dublin-ahead-of-g8-summit-1.1430527
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 The supposed other big past big news over the past decade by the liberals was  that several high profile Christian advocates are winning Conservative nominations across the country. The Globe &  Mail had a rational analysis of the situation in an editorial. so what!
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Now  is difficult to understand the media fuss about Christian activists helping to secure the nominations of at least eight Canadian federal Conservative candidates in the next election. It is  no less  difficult not to understand why no one opposes the election of Alcoholics, or the use of Alcohol to try to secure votes.. but they will oppose the election of Christian persons, It is not difficult to understand why some newspapers would splash a headline on the topic across their front page, thereby starting the entire insanity in the first place.
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Now  let’s look at the problem with the current system. By signing up a group of people to pack a nomination meeting, the chances of nominating a candidate who the party and constituents do not want is dramatically increased.
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With the current political nominating system it’s very easy to trade votes for money, booze, or favours, and it becomes about stacking meetings rather than being the “best” candidate. And  during the leadership race, we saw blatant restrictions of membership forms. If you didn’t support a certain candidate  ,it was impossible to get a membership form from the party, and when you were granted one, it would often take months to get it, or it would be mailed to the wrong address. Since it’s all about being on the membership list and it’s pretty easy to keep people off the membership list, abuse is practically encouraged. So why not switch to the primary system? Every Canadian could register with a party or as a non-partisan on their income tax by checking a box.  Sure, you could still truck in your church members to vote so long as they’re registered to the party in question but with many more eligible voters, it would become a lot harder to take over a riding or win a nomination. With a wider range of people voting, it would presumably allow for candidates the general population prefers to be nominated. It would also become impossible to restrict membership forms, leaving leadership races more wide open and democratic… considering the bad press all parties get through nasty nomination battles and leadership races, it would be a solution everyone would benefit from. Don’t forget a recall system too.
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Now, here  the other laws On political abuse:
 
119. (1) Every one who(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a
member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, corruptly
(i) accepts or obtains,
(ii) agrees to accept, or
(iii) attempts to obtain,
any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment for himself or
another person in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted
by him in his official capacity, or
(b) gives or offers, corruptly, to a person mentioned in paragraph (a) any
money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of
anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by him in his official
capacity for himself or another person,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding fourteen years.
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Secondly  : Imagine that a Christian radio station from Alberta’s once Bible, belt, today’s devil belt, Red deer Alberta called me a liar and the same Ostrich, tried to shot me the messenger, he  had accused me of spreading hatred cause I said wine and alcoholic were served often at Conservative political events, as the news media has reported itself.. for them that cannot be true.. a professing Christian Stephen Harper cannot serve, drink alcoholic beverages.. but diverting the topic on me does not change the fact as to  whether he Harper serves alcohol to others and that  is still the critical issue.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/the-time-has-come-to-end-glamourising-alcohol-sponsorship/
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70 percent of Canadians drink alcohol, 15 percent Canadians are alcoholic, binge drinkers so of course alcohol is associated now with politics, politicians as well.. 
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Only “Tiny number of police officers part of large drinking and driving problem   Sun Nov 9, 12:03 PM   VANCOUVER, B.C. – The numbers are staggering.  Mothers Against Drunk Driving says 75,000 people are arrested annually in Canada for drinking and driving.  There are an additional 100,000 to 150,000 24-hour suspensions handed out each year by police, said MADD chief executive officer Andy Murie.  Sometimes the people who make those arrests, the front-line police officers who try to get the drunks off the road become – albeit rarely – part of the statistics.  “You might find 10 to 15 incidents a year involving police officers,” said Murie in a recent interview from his Oakville, Ont., office.  “The thing is that with the 10 to 15, because they are police officers and they get charged with a crime, it’s news.”  Often front-page news, most recently in British Columbia.  In recent weeks, the public learned that three B.C. police officers are facing drunk-driving charges – two members of the RCMP and a third from the New Westminster police department.  One of the off-duty RCMP members was arrested for drunk driving after a Jeep collided with a motorcycle, killing a 21-year-old man in Delta, B.C.  Other high-profile cases this year across the country include an Edmonton police officer facing one count of driving with a blood alcohol level above the legal limit and five counts each of impaired driving causing bodily harm and dangerous driving causing bodily harm.  In Saskatoon, a judge will decide the fate later this month of a senior member of the Saskatoon police service charged with impaired driving.  At his trial, two arresting officers testified that Insp. Al Stickney got behind the wheel after they observed him drunkenly staggering across the street.  “This year there’s been about 10 (arrests),” said Murie. “That’s pretty normal for a year.”  ..  the number of police officers caught drinking and driving is a tiny percentage of the total  ..   Benedikt Fischer, a criminologist at the faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University, said police officers are recruited “from the human race and despite the fact we expect so, human behaviour doesn’t stop on-or off-duty.”  Fischer also believes the number of police officers who drive drunk is probably higher than the arrest statistics indicate.  Being a cop is part of a “professional or police culture” dominated by machismo and camaraderie where police officers spend a lot of time socializing with each other, said Fischer, and often it involves alcohol.  “Drinking among police officers is often quite extensive and excessive, probably more so than in other professions,” he said.  When an RCMP member in B.C. is identified as having a drinking problem, he or she gets to know Dr. Ian MacDonald, the regional health services officer for RCMP in B.C.  After an assessment, they might be referred outside the force to an independent addiction specialist.  Whether it’s determined they have a drinking problem or not, all RCMP members arrested for drinking and driving come to MacDonald’s attention and must have an assessment.  MacDonald also thinks that MADD’s numbers are low and that the number of police officers arrested for drunk driving is higher than 10 to 15.  “That strikes me as low. If you look at B.C., we might have two or three charges a year. And if B.C. is 10 per cent of the population, that would be 20 to 30 across Canada.”  Mark Berber, a lecturer in psychiatry at the University of Toronto and an assistant professor at Queen’s University, is also skeptical of the MADD figures.  “It’s surprisingly low considering the stress these guys and gals are under.”  Studies, he said, have suggested that police officers have one of the most stressful jobs and “unfortunately a small number may seek to reduce their anxiety and stress by having a drink.”  He has counselled police officers in his private practice.  “They have spoken about seeking relief from stress and through medication and also drinking,” Berber said.  RCMP members who get caught drinking and driving, in addition to the court process, must endure an internal code of conduct investigation, said RCMP spokeswoman Const. Annie Linteau.  Members appear before an adjudication board and the result could be dismissal, she said. ”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081109/national/police_drunk_driving
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”  We only read/see about the few due to the police buddy system which will leave all but the most blatant of the cops drunk (ie involved in an accident) either being escorted home, or not even bothering to perform the breathe analysis. Do you really think the public is so stupid to believe that the police are held accountable to their partners? I have seen this first hand and know it for truth. So MADD get off your horse and see the facts for what they really are, police covering up for police”
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” I get the uncomfortable impression that there is a level of spin coming from MADD over this matter! If anything, I would have expected MADD to have taken a highly reproachful attitude toward anyone in this profession(as they do to anyone in any other profession) who CHOOSE to drink and drive. Yes, it makes the news if it’s a cop and so does any other citizen who kills someone while drunk at the wheel. “
” There is absolutely no excuse for anyone driving drunk,be they officers or not. We are all aware of the fact that it is illegal and should all be held to the same standard. As to lighter sentencing,police generally get booted off the force after conviction.  “
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 All alcoholics should be fired anywhere..
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Now in reality too often even a professing Christian Canadian Prime Minister Stepheh Harper buys alcohol for others to elicit their support. Will he  also give out playboy too now?
 
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international observations – Journal – Tories can’t hit $2.5 B …  27 Nov 2006 … Unacceptable. and next the PM Paul Martin will likely like Premier Ralph Klein try to say he is not an alcoholic, he like Premier Ralph … http://cnjournal.squarespace.com/journal/2006/11/27/tories-cant-hit-25-b-savings-target.html
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Online Encyclopedia and Dictionary – Ralph Klein An admitted alcoholic, Klein, under the influence, once verbally abused homeless people … This plan was quickly rejected by the government of Paul Martin. …
www.fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/Ralph_Klein
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Western Standard Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde, Ralph Klein who still is not generally respected outside of … Paul Martin the PM is still too often associated with alcoholic beer, …
http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006/03/image_and_polit.html
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My Blahg » I SEE DEAD BLOGSThe New Liberals- more Alcoholics at the taxpayer’s expenses too. Unacceptable. and next the PM Paul Martin will likely like Premier Ralph Klein try to say …
http://myblahg.com/?p=448
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Canada_Today Another Ralph Klein – Unaccepable too. Klein who is guilty of living high on his … Fire all the drunks, alcoholics, tax payer money abusers firstly too. …
http://groups.msn.com/canadatoday/klein.msnw
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Western Standard What was the true crime here — that a Friend Of Ralph Klein used a …. election capaign in Ontario the Liberal PM Paul Martin was promoting alcoholic wine, …
http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006
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Canada Today 2 “(Prime Minister Paul) Martin has ignored these kinds of abuses under his watch …. And is the Paul Martin the PM himself now an alcoholic, who encourages …
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 (Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20   Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21   Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Col 3:5 KJV)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:6   For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
 
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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper « Posted at wordpress.com Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Federal Conservative Party of Canada ….. Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, …
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/canadas-prime-minister-stephen-harper/  
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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper « The non conformer’s … Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper … Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages. The liars and the demons of course will say …
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/canadas-prime-mister-stephen-harper/
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The Walrus » Stephen Harper and the Theo-cons » Canada Religion … 27 Sep 2008 …
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/why-canadas-prime-minister-stephen– harper-keeps-his-religion-secret/ August 30, 2008 04:36 EST …
www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2008.10-stephen-harper-and-the-theocons/
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Why Stephen Harper keeps his evangelical faith very private – The … Prime Minister Stephen Harper is damned if he does talk about his evangelical beliefs ….. Does he Harper have his alcohol-drinking buddies now still too? …

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/why-canadas-prime-minister-stephen-harper-keeps-his-religion-secret/  

 
 
 
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A charismatic leader is someone who really cares about the good welfare of all the people in Canada equally, French or English, easterner or westerner, or whatever, and not another pretender, Christian imposter, Alcoholic, liars, self centered, greedy persons that we seem to too often have instead..
 
so don’t be stupid NOW again,
and don’t select a Liberal leader who
– is a pretender Christian,
– a liar,
– an alcoholic,
– or one who cannot speak english, never mind read it.
but note above all it has to be one only from Quebec..

TRUDEAU’S SON Justine IS TOO YOUNG, and INEXPERIENCED STILL.
for without the support of the Quebec voters, without a PM from Quebec, you next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding out.. again and again!
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PS anyone who is naive to say that professing Christians do not drink alcohol, get drunk just should read all the letters I often do get from professing Christian pastors acknowledging they drink wine, alcohol and trying to justify it..
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According to the pastor Harper was a good christian. The  hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of New Life Beginings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly today now  for us not to have anything to do with a person who drinks wine, and to stand up against all people who do any wrong, to openly speak to them, and lies and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him..  I thus told him Harper drinks beer.. but since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refuses to talk with me  and  says I am tired now, I refuse to hear any of that, I refuse to believe any of that, that is all gossip,  slanders, and we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for their false professing Christian love, brotherly love, their openness now, free speech too.. The same pastor says he does not believe anything the news media writes at all. So who does he believe? only himself it seems.
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For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/

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News reporting these days tends to be Unprofessional

 
I have known now for half a century that news reporting these days tends to be Unprofessional, whether it is the Times, CNN or what ever, for News reporting has too often now become lies, spins, desertions , contradictory even.. no  wonder many people stop buying news papers, do not believe necessary all they hear and read as well, especially in Canada now too  it seems the Vancouver Sun, Calgary Sun, Calgary Herald, Edmonton Journal, the National Post, and many many others now too. So now also  the cops they also do  tend to be unprofessional  it seems as well. Why?
 
 Do now simply go the the Google Canadian http://news.google.ca/  or the US version  http://news.google.ca/news?ned=us   of the news and read about the same subjects first 
 
 for example
– The Canadian federal elections, related political parties and their leaders
– The US federal  elections, related political parties and their leaders
 
and as you read you will see the news editors, news reporters, columnist offering you now their gossip, their opinion, their lies, their slanders, spins  too often and not the balanced, impartial, professional fair , honest facts firstly to allow you to make the right decision on your own.. and too often they even do immorally bully, bash others no as well..
 
sad.. this is all really sad and unacceptable still too
 
“The Canadian 2008 federal election campaign will go down as one of the nastiest in recent political memory.  There was no mistaking the steady use of U.S.-style political attack ads by almost all of the parties. We witnessed just about everything: from a pooping puffin defecating on Liberal leader Stéphane Dion’s shoulder to Conservative leader Stephen Harper being inextricably linked to lame-duck U.S. President George W. Bush.” But did  these attack ads actually work? clearly they  were they successful in producing such a strong showing for Canada’s Prime Minister Mr. Harper in yesterday’s vote? “Some pundits and party operatives argue that attack ads are merely part of the cut and thrust of politics. They maintain that we need to know both the good and the “bad” about our prospective political representatives.  Not surprisingly, they have no hesitation about saying that these ads are very effective during election campaigns. To be sure, the very fact that political parties continue to use them is proof positive of their electoral value and import. These same analysts would quickly point to the “Willie Horton” ad in the 1988 U.S. presidential campaign — used by George Bush Sr. to paint his Democratic challenger, Michael Dukakis, as soft on crime for supporting weekend furloughs for murderers when governor of Massachusetts — to highlight just how powerful these attacks can be. Others will single out the “Swift Boat” attacks against former presidential candidate John Kerry in 2004 to buttress their argument. For them, these ads enabled the sponsoring party to define their opponent in a very negative light. And if the target of the ad doesn’t respond immediately and forcefully, that individual risks being framed in an inauspicious fashion — as Mr. Dion knows only too well. The ads work, then, because the negative image tends to stay longer in the mind of the hapless voter. Furthermore, those voters sitting on the fence or undecided about their party preference are likely most susceptible to this type of electoral messaging.” And we will see more not less of them but THE ADVERTISING MONEY AVAILABLE STILL DID NOT GIVE THE TORIES  HERE THEIR DESIRED MAJORITY GOVERNMENT AND WHY WAS THAT? WAS IT ALL A WASTE OF MONEY RATHER, THE ELECTION NOW INCLUDED? http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/canada-harper-failed-again-in-an-attempt-to-win-majority-government/

“Other observers and commentators argue just the opposite — namely, that these attack ads have little impact or staying power during an election campaign. In addition, they contend that the more discerning voter would not be influenced by this kind of political appeal.” And that on the contrary such adds will clearly rather cause a backlash, cause more people to van support the person being attack as has clearly happened in the republican vice president nominee Sarah Palin TO THE CLEAR, ADMITTED FRUSTRATIONS NOW OF THE DEMOCRATS IN REALITY.

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  
 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

 The Sarah Palin effect has clearly perturbed the Democrats

 

 
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Dirtied politics

NO WONDER IT IS STILL TOO OFTEN CALLED DIRTY POLITICS

For me the biggest hypocrisy of the election is the liberals,  democrats who would lie to us and say they are angels, that they do not lie, or abuse, slander, use negative messages against the other side.. ha ha ha.. not even when they are sleeping? and how stupid do they think we are now too.
 
The democrats are really loudly upset  these  days  that so many people do not accept their lies, distortions, about the right wingers republicans and the Christians.. Dream on.. and how stupid do they think we are now still too.
            
The Bible’s suggestions on electing rulers..

(Deu 1:13 KJV)  Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.
(Deu 1:14 KJV)  And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.
(Deu 1:15 KJV)  So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.
(Deu 1:16 KJV)  And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
(Deu 1:17 KJV)  Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
(Deu 1:18 KJV)  And I commanded you at that time all the things which ye should do.

(1 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV)  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(1 Tim 3:3 KJV) 
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
(1 Tim 3:4 KJV)  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
(1 Tim 3:5 KJV)  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
(1 Tim 3:6 KJV)  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
(1 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
 

When Sarah Palin, John McCain discuss negatives against Obama, Bilden , it is all supposedly lies and slanders, but when the Liberals, Democrats, Biden, Obama say their negatives against against the other two  it is supposedly all fair game.. my how unbelievably perverted, and double standard. An unacceptable  fact I have even shared often before too.
“I’ve been hearing for a while now the common theme that  the McCain/Palin camp is supposedly inciting racism, hatred and violence. See http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/newest-obamacrat-talking-point/  for more on this.
 
It has even been “proclaimed” that Mac and his supporters are trying to get someone to assassinate The One. ( Obama)
I’ve read and heard many say that the anger expressed by supporters at McCain/Palin events is “out of control rage and racism” and that supposedly McCain isn’t doing enough to stop it.   
 I cannot believe the people who tell me they are not at all concerned about Obama’s radical associates, his connection to foreign and domestic terrorists, his ties to ACORN (Yes he IS tied to ACORN in a very big way), his affection for radical religious leaders like Rev. Wright, Father Phleger, Louis Farrakkan and more. Mostly radical religious leaders who peddle hate speech as sermons.
Not only that but these are the same people (Obamabots) who have posted things on The Daily Kos and even the Official DNC website not only advocating but in some cases out right calling for physical and/or sexual violence against Hillary Clinton and many of these hateful posts are still on display for all to see while any reference to anything not positive about The One is immediately deleted and the user(s) banned and admonished as haters and racists. 
This from the campaign that told supporters “I want you to get in their face”, and “if they bring a knife then we’ll bring a gun”. The wonderful candidate who has blogs from his supporters on his own website demanding that they commit to making sure Obama got the nomination “by any means necessary” and the same supporters who have written numerous blogs and essays about how “violence and rioting will ensue” if Obama is not the next president.
This from the guy that went to Kenya on the taxpayers’ dime to campaign for his cousin Ralia Odinga. You know the guy that lost his first attempt at power and incited race riots, ethnic cleansing and general chaos afterward claiming that the election was “stolen” from him though it was clearly not. The guy who won his second attempt in large part because of those tactics and the fact that he basicly bought the support of radical muslims by promising to install Sharia Law. The cousin who took notes from Obama on how to do this. If you don’t beleive me read up on Odinga. Or you can watch this video. http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-newest-bs-obama-talking-point-and-why-its-bs/       
Seriously these Obama supporters have been the nastiest, the rudest, the most hateful and violent I have ever encountered in an election cycle. They will threaten, stalk, hack whatever it takes to suppress any views other than their own. I have heard of more death threats and threats of violence and various reprisals from Obama supporters than should ever be allowed and yet I have not once seen him try to reign them in.

Well , he did say that the families were off limits after his supporters and his official surrogates had already been smearing Sarah Palin and her children for a week or so. It’s easy to speak out after the damage is done.

Suddenly telling the truth is racist and hateful. I had one message from an Obama supporter saying that she did not care one bit about his relationship with Bill Ayers and she wouldn’t care even if he were still doing the despicable things he did back then. It would have absolutely no effect on her decision making!

  Anyone who doesn’t care if the candidate they want to see in the white house has friendships with terrorists really isn’t smart enough to vote. Sorry but there it is.   Seriously does this guy have even one friend or associate that is not either a criminal, a terrorist, a radical hate monger or a far-left nutjob? Not even one normal friend?

How many of us would have this number of anti-American leaning friends? All we hear from camp Obama is how he’s the poor widdle victim of hate and racism and the mean old republicans are trying to kill him! (Sorry for the tweety bird speak I just can’t help it)

Ever notice no matter what happens? when  Obama attacks the others then claims he is attacked. Sure, sure he is always the “victim” and those of us who do love America and democracy are always the “bullies”. Funny because if you look around you won’t see threats from Hillary Clinton supporters or from McCain/Palin supporters. ” http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-newest-bs-obama-talking-point-and-why-its-bs/   

 

I had read on many lying Sites that Barrack Obama does not drink alcohol and  that is not true.. that is clearly PR crap! http://www.sofakingdrunk.com/2008/05/09/obama-and-clinton-drinking-alcohol-obama-drunk-clinton-drunk/

When Sarah Palin, John McCain discuss negatives against Obama, Bilden , it is all supposedly lies and slanders, but when the Liberals, Democrats, Biden, Obama say their negatives against against the other two  it is supposedly all fair game.. my how unbelievably perverted, and double standard. An unacceptable  fact I have even shared often before too.
 

 

 “The Canadian 2008 federal election campaign will go down as one of the nastiest in recent political memory.  There was no mistaking the steady use of U.S.-style political attack ads by almost all of the parties. We witnessed just about everything: from a pooping puffin defecating on Liberal leader Stéphane Dion’s shoulder to Conservative leader Stephen Harper being inextricably linked to lame-duck U.S. President George W. Bush.” But did  these attack ads actually work? clearly they  were they successful in producing such a strong showing for Canada’s Prime Minister Mr. Harper in yesterday’s vote? “Some pundits and party operatives argue that attack ads are merely part of the cut and thrust of politics. They maintain that we need to know both the good and the “bad” about our prospective political representatives.  Not surprisingly, they have no hesitation about saying that these ads are very effective during election campaigns. To be sure, the very fact that political parties continue to use them is proof positive of their electoral value and import. These same analysts would quickly point to the “Willie Horton” ad in the 1988 U.S. presidential campaign — used by George Bush Sr. to paint his Democratic challenger, Michael Dukakis, as soft on crime for supporting weekend furloughs for murderers when governor of Massachusetts — to highlight just how powerful these attacks can be. Others will single out the “Swift Boat” attacks against former presidential candidate John Kerry in 2004 to buttress their argument. For them, these ads enabled the sponsoring party to define their opponent in a very negative light. And if the target of the ad doesn’t respond immediately and forcefully, that individual risks being framed in an inauspicious fashion — as Mr. Dion knows only too well. The ads work, then, because the negative image tends to stay longer in the mind of the hapless voter. Furthermore, those voters sitting on the fence or undecided about their party preference are likely most susceptible to this type of electoral messaging.” And we will see more not less of them but THE ADVERTISING MONEY AVAILABLE STILL DID NOT GIVE THE TORIES  HERE THEIR DESIRED MAJORITY GOVERNMENT AND WHY WAS THAT? WAS IT ALL A WASTE OF MONEY RATHER, THE ELECTION NOW INCLUDED? http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/canada-harper-failed-again-in-an-attempt-to-win-majority-government/

“Other observers and commentators argue just the opposite — namely, that these attack ads have little impact or staying power during an election campaign. In addition, they contend that the more discerning voter would not be influenced by this kind of political appeal.” And that on the contrary such adds will clearly rather cause a backlash, cause more people to van support the person being attack as has clearly happened in the republican vice president nominee Sarah Palin TO THE CLEAR, ADMITTED FRUSTRATIONS NOW OF THE DEMOCRATS IN REALITY.

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The Bible’s suggestions on electing rulers..
 
(Deu 1:13 KJV)  Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.
(Deu 1:14 KJV)  And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.
(Deu 1:15 KJV)  So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.
(Deu 1:16 KJV)  And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
(Deu 1:17 KJV)  Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
(Deu 1:18 KJV)  And I commanded you at that time all the things which ye should do.
   
(1 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV)  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(1 Tim 3:3 KJV)  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
(1 Tim 3:4 KJV)  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
(1 Tim 3:5 KJV)  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
(1 Tim 3:6 KJV)  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
(1 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 
 

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The best way to save money in Politics is to firstly fire all of the Alcoholics in the civil and public services, governments.. all governmental Ministers, MPs, provincial  MPPs, MLAs, MNAs  included, not just in Canada now too?
 
For decades I have been writing to news editors, politicians about important issues… and every once a while there come at different peaks significant writings that do have historical effect.. such as this one.. that affected both Ralph Klein’s and Paul Martin’s political career.. and will it effect Peter McKay and Stephen Harper’s now as well?
 
“Prime Minister Paul Martin looks at a red wine while visiting a winery in Beamsville, Ont. Sunday. Mind you this is not what real Professing Christians tend to do especially on Sunday.. and this is not a rare occasion for the PM Paul Martin who has been giving out free beer too it seems.. as I have detailed here elsewhere too.. But Paul Martin the PM is still too often associated with alcoholic beer, he and his party members too… Liberal party workers, members have pizza and beer parties too. The New Liberals- more Alcoholics at the taxpayer’s expenses too. Unacceptable. and next the PM Paul Martin will likely like Premier Ralph Klein try to say he is not an alcoholic, he like Premier Ralph Klein only encourages beer drinking and drink beer too often cause this is another Canadian value.. even the related drunk driving.. the too often stingy, unimpassioned of others abusive behavior of alcoholics, plus the permanent brain damage alcohol causes. Alocholics are known to be liars, they often even lie to themselves and others often saying even they are not alcoholics too. You still can tell if they are aloholics by what they do and who their good Friends are.You can still tell who they are for they like to be around other alcoholics, and now also by the amount of alcohol they do like to have or to even have even around them. They also do like to have and to be often around plenty of beer and alcohol. Klein was known to be a regular drinker in a tavern in Calgary when he worked as a reporter before becoming the Premier.. for that is his regular church of prayer..””Beamsville, Ont. — One of Paul Martin’s top aides apologized to Canadian parents yesterday after saying on national television that they would buy popcorn and beer with the money the Conservatives are offering for child care. The Conservatives rolled out a child-care plan last week that would give parents of preschool children an annual $1,200 per child to spend as they see fit Scott Reid, Mr. Martin’s communications director, tried to explain on CBC News: Sunday the difference between that approach — which he broke down to $25 a week — and the Liberal plan to establish a national child-care system. “Working families need care,” he said. “They need care that is regulated, safe and secure and that’s what we’re building here. Don’t give people $25 a week to blow on beer and popcorn. Give them child-care spaces that work.””
Reid’s apology doesn’t change the Liberal policy on daycare, which fails to respect parents’ choices and trust them to decide what’s best for their kids His comment was not just a “slip of the tongue” but a reflection of a long pattern of Liberal attitude that devalues parents’ choices, Kate Tennier, founder of Advocates for Childcare Choice, said she was appalled by Reid’s comments and said they shows “Paul Martin appears to agree with this rather scary notion of government intrusion into Canadian family life,” she said.” How really scary!” About 13% of the nation’s children receive daycare from government-sanctioned providers, while the other 87% either receive care from a stay-at-home parent, a relative, or an unlicensed daycare provider who are left out by the Liberals.
 
How appropriate this would occur while Paul Martin was on a Sunday at a wine factory.. The Liberals aid that the Parent’s can’t be trusted to handle the tax payer’s money and what only the Liberals can? Real Liberal Rubbish. We all do from real experiences too already do know how Liberal cannot be trusted with our taxpayer’s money and that they wrongfully even buy beer, wine, Martinis, alcohol with it too. All of this was, is just more Liberal hypocrisy!Not only is any cheating, lying, stealing, tax payer’s money abuses is unacceptable also for any civil, public servant, elected representatives, not even for one of them, and no matter what political party they may support too, it is also always inappropriate, unethical, immoral to use one cent of the taxpayer’s money on booze, alcohol as well at any time and anywhere now too.
 
Since we normal persons already tend to know the negative effect of Alcoholism.. Let me be also very clear about it too, I am rightfully against any brain damaged or not alcoholics having any position, job in governments, the civil, public services, rather they should all be fired immediately rather and that includes any Prime Minister, Premier, Member of Parliament or their staff members
 
This may be the season for some to be jolly with booze, drugs but keep it all, all out of politics, the governments.
EDMONTON (CP) – Ralph Klein says he wouldn’t be Alberta’s premier today and he could be dead by now if he’d kept up his heavy drinking. The premier swore off the bottle in 2001 after a night on the town which ended with him swearing at men at a homeless shelter and throwing money at them. But in year-end media interviews this week he acknowledged he continues to have the odd drink. “I probably would have died of liver disease,” Klein said in one such interview with The Canadian Press. “It’s not only unhealthy, but it’s politically unhealthy. Mentally unhealthy.” Klein conceded he has had a few drinks in the last year, but there have been differing accounts of how often and how much. After his encounter at the homeless shelter, Klein admitted that boozing had taken a toll on his ability to carry out his duties as premier. “I do know I have a problem, and I do know I’m going to deal with it,” he said at the time as tears rolled down his cheeks. “I am going to go as long as I possibly can and hopefully end this journey without having another drink . . . one day at a time.” Klein also said then that he had considered resigning. “When you get up and you are feeling rotten and you wonder, ‘Gee, I feel this badly, do I really want to get on and do the work of the day,’ you bring yourself around to do it, but it is a lot better to do it with an absolutely clear head.” Klein admitted he drank the equivalent of a bottle of wine every day.” this is all true? you really believe him??? His decades of alcohol did not cause any brain damage now too? How come also very few other people can give up drinking alcoholic that easy now too? His still often odd behavior, emotional outburst is not associated with his alcohol problem? 

 

 

 

Can you really believe as the truth what most of these too many still too alcoholic politicians say to us these days too??”” 
 

 

 

It seems that according to some  Senator Joe Bilden is an alcoholic too, and Barrack Obama too?  Wow!!
 
What about any other politicians? 
  
Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and  the professing Christians . Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/
 
The major undeniable  weakness, weakness, discrepancies, shortfall in the soft underbelly of  the personal life of Barrack Obama and even Canada’s prime Minister Stephen Harper is clear, and  is that already   proven  too, that there is a wide discrepancy between what he verbally says he is and  who he really is now and  and what he in fact still next does. Even now starting clearly with his profession of being a real practicing Christian. Barack Obama for continuity he is not a real practicing Christian and he undeniably has violated God laws continually, and there is no excuse for it.. While it is often a thorny issue, discussion in the Christian faith, amongst the protestants and evangelicals whether Christians drinking wine is tolerate now, the Bible in both the old and new testament clearly and undeniably still  says that anyone in a leadership position cannot consume wine, alcohol or get drunk. This is not even subject even to any debate now as well. Both Obama and Bilden do undeniably drink alcohol now.. and what about McCain and Palin now  too?
 
Again ““Dr. Daniel Akin, President of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary has written an article in favor of the famous Resolution #5 (Resolution calling for total opposition to alcohol). Alcohol is the number one drug problem among teenagers. (1 Cor. 8:13; 9:19-22; 10:32-33). Because I am an example to others, I will make certain no one ever walks the road of sorrow called alcoholism because they saw me take a drink and assumed, “if it is alright for him it is alright for me.” No, I will choose to set an uncompromising example of abstinence because I love them.  I will seek my joy and filling in the Spirit not in alcohol. I love the Phillips translation of Ephesians 5:18 which reads, “Don’t get your stimulus from wine (for there is always the danger of excessive drinking), but let the Spirit stimulate your souls.” Psalm 4:7-8 adds, “You [O Lord] have put more joy in my heart than they have when their grain and wine abound. In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.”  There is no record that Jesus drank strong drink,  As a pastor or church leader, would I demand abstinence for  leadership? Absolutely! The principle of Proverbs 31:4-5 is appropriately applied here, “It is not for Kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.” “
(1 Cor 11:28 KJV)  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

(Prov 3:33 KJV)  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

Jesus himself had said that professing to be a Christian is not enough, 

Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart];

Gal 5:23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].

Matt 7:16 You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?17 Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit. 18 A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].  19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits.

The Bible’s suggestions on electing rulers.. good managers
(Deu 1:13 KJV) Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.
(Deu 1:14 KJV) And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.
(Deu 1:15 KJV) So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.
(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
(Deu 1:17 KJV) Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
(Deu 1:18 KJV) And I commanded you at that time all the things which ye should do.
(1 Tim 3:1 KJV) This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(1 Tim 3:3 KJV) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
(1 Tim 3:4 KJV) One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
(1 Tim 3:5 KJV) (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
(1 Tim 3:6 KJV) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
(1 Tim 3:7 KJV) Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Tim 3:2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation {but} must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect {and} temperate {and} self-controlled ( Sober) ; [he must be] sensible {and} well behaved {and} dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable {and} qualified teacher,
Alcoholics, wine drinkers, smokers, drug users too they all  tend to have evidentially lost their self control.. 

Undeniably whether you are also a leader or not getting drunk is still an unacceptable sin as well. And all true Christians consider this still a sinful act

 
 Obama amongst some others  reiterated his support for civil unions for homosexuals. No surprise there. Some Christians   do indeed allow for the conferring of some legal rights, short of marital status, on gays as a simple matter of fairness. We cannot legislate or enforce morality. Nevertheless all true Christians consider this a sinful act But I suspect his rationale raised some hackles. “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans”. Barrack Obama. Since when did Romans 1 become obscure? I thought pitting the words of Jesus against those of Paul was a tactic of Red Letter Christians, not something a serious candidate for the Oval Office would engage in.There is no refererence to gay civil unions in the Sermon on the Mount (unless you stretch the Golden Rule beyond all recognition). Perhaps Obama mixed up his Bible references   Is Barack Obama a Red Letter Christian? http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/03/is_barack_obama.html
 
Is Obama What another  type of Christian  also now ?  Are there now really so many different types?  My next door neighbor tells me he is a Christian, and he says is a member of the church of Jesus Christ, the LATTER DAY SAINTS, Mormons, and he says now today he reads the Bible and prays daily too.  But  when I started to ask him about what the   Apostle had said in the Bible now about getting drunk,  he next said he did not believe in any of the the 12 apostles  writings, but yes, he believes that these writings  they are in the books that supposedly composing the Common Bible, but he does not  believe they are really part of the valid Bible. So when I next had further asked him what he now had defined as being the true Bible, he said the Bible according to Him now  was solely the spoken word of Jesus. He is another one of  those red lettered Christians..  So I asked him if he believed solely   in the  4 Gospels, the Bible books written now anyway by some of the 12   Apostles of Jesus anyway,  even Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.. and so if he really is now  believing in the 4  Gospel, the  still   Apostolic writings so what was the problem in him now even believing that the Book of Revelation  in the Standard Bible now was aalso a  part of the Bible? After all it was written by the same Apostle John who now had written  the book of John, and the epistles of John now too.. Now he next replied and had said  he did not believe in the book of Revelation as being a part of the Bible. Wow! This is getting all so confusing, needlessly complicated too , listening to him firstly. Really now what does he  believe in cause I really cannot figure out how he picks and chooses to believe, it seems he believes in the ten commandments, but he does not even know what they are still too, he really believes in the Gospel solely according  to him and not the Gospel according to Jesus and the Apostles.. and he admits has these complex rules for Bible interpretations as to what is valid and what is not, all  made by his church, and he next had said I should go to his church to find out what these rules now are. I replied and said I did not need any more of these clearly false mere man made religion, rules to tell me what part of the Bible I should believe in firstly , for the Holy sprit himself, the spirit of Christ has clearly promised to lead us and to guide us personaly now  into all truth, not rather anyone else who admits they do not even believe in the standard Bible now too. The Bible and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever too.  I can read for myself and I can believe in it myself without has clearly distorted directions, guidance, rules now too. . I also either take it all as being  God’s word’s or none of it. It is as simple as that for a start now too. 
  
In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  
 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, etc.,

 

I have 6 wordpress blog sites at least and they are all great, cause they are written by me and I put a lot of work into it..

Sadly I have learned that if I want to get loads of readers I just refer to these two words.. and I next do get loads of visitors..  but sadly  the other topics,  the  other words mostly  do not.. 

the really  bad thing is that by me doing this attracts next the some of bad persons as well, not just the good ones. such is life…

Do see also

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/fighting-the-smears-about-sarah-palin/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/mccain-versus-obama-hot-free-speech/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/christian-missionary-alliance-2/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/christian-graphics-wallpapers/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/popular-christian-based-readinsg-resources/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/hello-world/

Another Snap election call- Ukraine

  
 
President Viktor Yushchenko of Ukraine has dissolved the Ukrainian  parliament weeks after the collapse of the country’s ruling pro-Western coalition.  Mr Yushchenko announced Ukraine’s third general election in less than three years in a pre-recorded speech on TV. The polls will be held on 7 December. Yushchenko’s party, which is seeking closer ties with the European Union and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, quit the coalition on Sept. 3 after its former ally Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko teamed up with the pro-Russian opposition to strip the president of some powers. Yushchenko and Timoshenko joined forces four years ago to win the 2004 election in the bloodless Orange Revolution. After a split in 2005, the two reunited before last year’s vote. Since then, Yushchenko and Timoshenko have been locked in a battle over how to tackle Europe’s fastest inflation rate, sell state assets and how to spend budget.  “Early elections are not likely to bring political stability,”   “Tensions between the parliament and the president are likely to continue” as “the pro-presidential party may gather even fewer votes than predicted, as the population is clearly dissatisfied with the frequent elections. Yushchenko is thus likely to face, after elections, parties he has already had a lot of difficulties working with.”  Ukraine’s inflation rate, driven by global food and energy costs and exacerbated in Ukraine by government spending, rose to 24.3 percent in August. The annual rate almost tripled in a year to 31.1 percent in May, prompting Standard & Poor’s to cut the country’s credit rating.  Ukraine’s hryvnia fell 18 percent in the past month as the country’s ruling coalition collapsed and debt markets seized up.  “The early elections are clearly negative for the economy. They may further undermine economic fundamentals,” . “The country is in a very precarious economic situation. The economy is expected to slow sharply, while consumer price inflation should remain high.”
 
Really now! How is that the rather still dumb it seems politicians, who think turn a blind eye to the problems the citizens have, by calling a snap election in Canada, Ukraine, elsewhere now  will help next them, or the citizens?

How I see it.. pretenders

 

No I really do not think they are real Christians

for they clearly do not adhere to the whole world, 

the word of God the Bible

(Luke 6:46 KJV)  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

(Luke 6:49 KJV)  But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages. The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

  I have had many, many unexpected shocks in my life.. like finding out too often still that many of my pastors, local politiicans, professing Christian Brethren  too  were   real crooks, dishonest persons.. and why was that?

Too many persons lie, made a pretence of who they are, put on an act, a show.. do wrongfully think they can fool  most of the people and get away with it.. but for how long? 

(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 

 

(Mat 10:25 KJV)  It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 26  Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27  What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 

(2 Cor 4:2 KJV)  But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

(1 Pet 3:4 KJV)  But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

We all should know that elders, apostles, prophets, pastors- teachers are basically only shepherds protecting  the sheep from the wolves, insuring they get good feed as well.. the larger the herd the more shepherds, shepherdess there are too.. and Jesus Christ is always the chief shepherd  of all of the flocks, as well as the sole owner. But there are still the good and bad sheep,good and bad  shrpherds as well, the hireling shepherds.. in it solely for the money, the bucks only..