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No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe, leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

(Mat 5:19 KJV) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Palin had certainly sparked interest

Some persons wrongly try to advocate that Pentecostalism is a modern day religion that now is found solely in the United States originally whereas others do rightfully maintain rather it is a revived New Testament form of Biblical Christianity. It is now a major world wide Charismatic branch of Christianity

There are various brands of Pentecostalism today but they all mostly tend to believe in similar aspects of their version of Christianity but not all. There is clearly one false sect in this grouping now too.

The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Plain has certainly sparked interest world wide into the Pentecostal religion, and now many persons world wide as well as in the Americas do seek, do want to know seriously what is difference basically about this Christian religion from the other existing differing Christian religions.

The Christians now already all supposedly believe in Jesus Christ as firstly being God, Jesus also being the promised Old testament Messiah as well, they the Christians they do all tend to believe in the existence also of the Holy Trinity too , where the personal Sprit of Christ, the Holy Spirit is also manifested as a separate personal entity who carries on the work of Jesus Christ ongoing in the genuine Christian Believer’s personal life. It is estimated that only 30 percent of all Christian believers are genuine, actually practicing Christians in the various Christian churches

And all Christians tend to generally believe in the same Bible, the Old and New Testament as being now the true revealed word of God to us all even about Jesus, the apostles, and the Christian church as well.

The Pentecostals tend to separately now believe that God speaks continually to each Christian believer now as well personally, even outside of the Word of God, the Bible, by means of the Holy Spirit, and the Pentecostals tend to believe in the separate personal need of receiving the anointing, the Baptism of the Holy spirit personally in one’s life , this now is clearly a separate experience from the experience of receiving one’s initial personal salvation, eternal life by faith in the innocent, sacrificial, shed blood of Jesus Christ.

The majority of the Pentecostals tend to believe in manifesting one of the the Charismatic gifts of the Holy spirit, often tongues , as evidence of now being personally baptized with the Holy spirit. .

They the Pentecostals do tend to believe in the manifestations of the charismatic’s gifts of the Holy Spirit as being applicable today as well, whereas other Pentecostal limit it to solely speaking in tongues, and Pentecostals often do personally practice praying for personal, physical healing, even by the laying of hands on others, as well as the ministry of casting out demons out of individuals too.

Needless to say there are different versions by non Pentecostals about what a Pentecostal now are even, some lying and distorted too, depending on who you talk to as well.

The Pentecostals also do tend to believe in the local church being run by elders, apostles, prophets, bishops and not rather by a single one man ministry of a local Pastor.

Trinity, Tithing is mandatory in some Pentecostal churches and in other it is not.

The Holy Spirit of God is the Spirit of God, fully divine.” That means that in every way He is equal with God the Father and God the Son. He possesses their attributes and character. He is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and holy. He is eternal, immutable, righteous, just and loving. And, as the third person of the Holy Trinity, He is a person. When Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit, say in John 14:26 for example He uses the masculine personal pronoun when He says, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit – the Father will send Him in My name – will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.” The Holy Spirit is a unique person with the characteristics which define a person. Acts 5:3 tells us that it is possible to lie to Him and Acts 7:51 tells us it is possible to resist Him. And Acts 13:2 tells us that He speaks.

Jesus had said that without Him and his Holy Spirit you can do nothing.. nothing everlasting, or significant too. yet people falsely do try to redefine Jesus, Divorce the Holy Spirit or try to redefine the Holy Spirit with false doctrines, vanities still to day.

A very lively good church is led by the Holy Spirit and the right, godly leaders.. and in a very bad church the shepherds are bad.. led mostly by the devil and self. And believe me when I say most shepherds are bad still. Great demonic confusion surrounds thus the Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit even among the Baptists, Evangelicals, Dispensationalists, even Jews mainly because there are too many ignorant fools who try to teach, explain something they themselves have still have never personally experienced yet.

It would be one thing if Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Unitarian Jews, and Oneness Pentecostals all had similar religions, practices, and beliefs. But they do not. Their religions, practices, and beliefs ALL WILDLY DIVERGE. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON IS THAT THEY ALL USE THE SAME ARGUMENTS TO DENY TRINITY AND USE THE SAME LANGUAGE TO DESCRIBE THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN IT.

The Assembly of God Pentecostals do support the Trinity doctrine https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/assemblies-of-god-pentecostals/

TD Jakes has a huge ministry and a wide influence, but much of what he teaches is very troubling. Some of what he teaches is even heretical. .a Oneness Doctrine. Oneness Pentecostalism (aka Jesus Only) resurfaced around 1913 just after the Azusa Street Pentecostal revival. It is itself another revival of what has been called Sabellianism (after Sabellius excommunicated 220 AD) and Modalistic (modes; ways) Monarchianism (one king). I can tell you assuredly that TD Jakes believes there is one God. We do as well. However, he believes God is a single (cognizant ego) person who showed (manifested) himself, and/or acted in three different ways (modes or dimensions).

That the Son was the Creator clearly disproves firstly the Oneness position. If the Son did not eternally exist with the Father as a distinct Person why is it that the “Son” can say, “Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had [eichon, or “shared”] with You before the world was” (emphasis added)? How did the Son have (literally, actively possessed) glory with (para) the Father before time if the Son did not exist before Bethlehem?. John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not… and this all substantiates “the eternal pre-existence of the Son”.

The oldest available recorded Christian hymn, Hail, Gladdening Light!, which was being sung as early as 150 AD, is utterly Trinitarian! The church tradition generally holds that the Gospel of John and Revelation were the last books of the New Testament and that one or the other was written as late as 96 AD, as the beloved disciple apostle John lived an exceptionally long time. So this hymn was being sung than 60 years after the New Testament was completed and the apostle had John died. This doctrine was not an add on later.

Hail, gladdening Light, of his pure glory poured,
who is immortal Father, heavenly blest;
Holiest of Holies, Jesus Christ our Lord!

Now are we come to the sun’s hour of rest;
the lights of evening round us shine,
we hymn the Father, Son and Holy Spirit divine.

Worthiest art thou at all times to be sung,
with undefiled tongue,
Son of our God, Giver of life, alone!
Therefore in all the world thy glories, Lord, they own.

The Bible declares God the Father, called the Ancient of Days (see Daniel 7, especially verses 9, 13, and 22) to be King in various places. The Bible declares God the Son, called the Angel of the Lord in His preincarnate form (see Joshua 5:14-15, also Exodus 3:4-6 cross referenced with Exodus 3:2, Acts 7:30, Acts 7:35 ) and the Word of God (John 1:1-18, Proverb 8 especially verse 30) and Jesus Christ to be King. However, the Holy Spirit, called the Spirit of God the Father (Matthew 10:20, Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18) and the Spirit of God the Son (Galatians 4:6, Romans 8:9, Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18) is never declared to be King by scripture at any time. How is this possible if you support a Oneness doctrine?

God is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit — three Persons, one God. Tertullian (160-215 AD) explained, “We define that there are two, the Father and the Son, and three with the Holy Spirit, and this number is made by the pattern of salvation… They are three, not in dignity, but in degree, not in substance but in form, not in power but in kind. They are of one substance and power, because there is one God from whom these degrees, forms and kinds devolve in the name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit” (Adv. Prax. 23; PL 2.156-7

God does not need your money, he wants all of you rather. Apostle Paul clearly made the decision to follow Jesus alone in all that he did, living by faith now too. Paul did not preach tithing at all. Abraham was not a Jew so he did not tithe. The nation of Jews came at a later date and mandatory tithing only applied to Jews.

The Pentecostal Church services tend to be vastly different, but not always, some churches are more active in participatory services of worshiping God in songs, tongues, and in prophecies and they also tend to have longer prayer services , and also longer, more diverse, less predictable church services than many other supposedly Christian denominations.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-already-has-energized-conservative-religious-leaders/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/sarah-palin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/wonder-woman-sarah-palin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/prophetic-utterances-republican-sarah-palin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/the-witchhunt-against-the-pentecostals-backfired/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/favorite-christian-based-reading-resources/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/religious-topics-of-interest/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/disturbing-trend-sensationalized-religious-postings-bashings/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/what-is-the-general-christian-sentiment-towards-pentecostalism/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/betrayers-of-jesus-christ/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/

The Real Thing

(1 Chr 16:20 KJV) And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. 23 Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; show forth from day to day his salvation. 24 Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations. 25 For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised: he also is to be feared above all gods. 26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 27 Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place. 28 Give unto the LORD, ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD glory and strength. 29 Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. 30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. 31 Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigneth. 32 Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. 33 Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he cometh to judge the earth. 34 O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. 35 And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise. 36 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel for ever and ever. And all the people said, Amen, and praised the LORD.

Now the majority of Pentecostals tend to define Jesus Christ as the Messiah, Savior, Baptizer of the Holy Spirit, Healer, Deliverer, Coming King, Lord and they also do believe in the whole Bible as the further revealed word of God by which we measure all truths now by too, they also do believe in the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ and in His second coming, return to earth for His own, … they also do tend to believe in the existance of Heaven, Hell, the need of giving, Servanthood, of adult Baptism, being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit now too. They also do believe in the need for continous prayer and daily Bible readings, Bible devotionals.

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;

(Psa 37:23 KJV) The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way. 24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand. 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

One of the most absurd statements that I have heard in the clearly ignorant fundamental Baptist, Plymouth Brethren churches, was that Pentecostals are not Christians, and/or they are demon possessed, falsely even emotional persons, they supposedly are even a false cult, false sect all rather spoken by narrow minded fundamentalists persons who clearly themselves do not accept the Bible literally.

For the Fundamentals themselves now too often and falsely they pick and chose the parts of the Bible they want to believe in, and distort the other parts too. They wrongfully tend too often too not believe in the existence of the gift of Apostles, Prophets- elders, existence today as well, or in the gift healing, all of the 9 and more supernatural gifts of the Holy sprit, nor do they the Fundamentalists too often believe in emotionally praising the Lord, with real joy, actively. And the Fundamentalists they certainly have changed the role of the Church deacons from that which was defined in the New Testament, in the book of Acts now too, selected and anointed persons who were to help and look after the poor people in the church.

I have been a Pentecostal Christian for 3 decades and someone has yet to show me what is so unChristian with my faith from the Bible. And for the two previous decades that I was Baptist I certainly saw a lot of liars, abusers, hypocrites, adulterers, idol worshippers, non practicing Christians too in the Baptist, Brethren faith now too.

I find it ironical that some people are so desperate to poof that all Pentecostals are false they even refer to Pentecostal preachers for support such as (1) Spiritual Authority: The Word And The Testimony by A.W. Tozer, 1950, and others too.

“Many Pentecostals will defend their experience by simply saying “it must be so because it is my experience”. This is a false comment by a false person now too. For I know whom I have believed in and he will raise me alive in the last day too.

Many of these false pentecostals bashers have to lie, distort, use straw, false arguements, and not the Bible itself to prove their points clearly now too. As we can all easily see now too. Why? because they firstly themslves really do not know the world of God too often, pastors included.. they mostly believe what other men have told them mostly.

I have met pretenders, imposters in all churches, in all of the denominations, even in the Baptist, Brethren churches now too. Don’t judge the whole church by the few..

Now I do agree that there are some, a very small few, false Pentecostal break away minority groups (such as United Pentecostal church ), and I also do undeniably agree that the majority of the Christian Missionary Alliance church members , adherents are non Christians, for they are mere lip serving Christians only for they really do differ from the main Pentecostal churches when they had broken away from them. Now I know very clearly there are many Canadians who rightfully do not believe that our Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper , a Christian Missionary alliance church member now is a Christian, and neither do I . Do see http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/popular-christian-based-readinsg-resources/

Also for certainty neither Mormons, nor Jehovah witnesses they are a sect, a cult and are not all also real Christians even if they profess to be or think they are now too. I also do have rightfully serious doubts of the salvation of many Messianic Jewish believers who have not made Jesus Lord of their life and have not forsaken all, their culture now included, to follow after Jesus Christ

Luke 18:28 And Peter said, See, we have left our own [things–home, family, and business] and have followed You. 29 And He said to them, I say to you truly, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 Who will not receive in return many times more in this world and, in the coming age, eternal life.

and not by a long shot would I agree that any Dispensationalists is a bonfied Christian now as well..

(1Jn 1:4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

(1Jn 1:5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

(1Jn 1:6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

(1Jn 1:7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin

He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
PSALM 91

The secret place is not a cave, physical fortress, or city of refuge somewhere that the Lord has set apart for us as some caring ruler may dedicate for that purpose. It is not even His palace but the secret place is none other than His Own Presence. He Himself is my refuge and fortress!

In my Father’s house

(John 14:2 KJV) In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

One of the greatest promises we have besides all of our sins being forgiven and us next having eternal life as well is that Jesus has gone to heaven to prepare a home for each one of us and he will come back for us next as well.

(John 14:4 KJV) 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Now why is it so unbelievable that some Christians cannot believe now that we can do the same miraculous works that Jesus did, is it because of their sinful unbelief, or the fact they are really not Christians rather still?

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

anyone who continues to violate even the ten commandments really still does not love God.. does not know Him

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

If we let him God will help us, talk to us, lead us into all truth

about the False Teachers & Disobedient Christians

As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian churches and why was, is that? (Prov 31:8 KJV) “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. 9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.

smoking, abortion, drugs, drunkenness behavior, adultery, gay sex , lying, slander, is still immoral and unacceptable for any professing, Christian, evangelical persons especially

Even the Latter Rain’s Rev Todd Bentley now Alone is firstly personally accountable and must takes the blame for all of his own poor acts.. and this will be a real repentance.. will he?

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/the-prophets-prophesy-falsely/

Surely now there are much more false Teachers, false prophets, false pastors, disobedient Christians in all of the evangelical, Christian churches, so why pick on just these few now? do tell me.. Let’s be fair and mention them all in all of the denominations now too.. or none at all… it is the mere bullies, bashers who have a partial approach.. bashing the Pentecostals now mainly too is a further sign of an immoral approach. What no more evangelicals, Baptists, Alliance, Anglican, Reformed, Brethren, Mennonites, Lutheran even on this list below even? Unbelievable!!!

70 percent of all Pastors are bad, and 70 percent of all professing Christians are not even real Christians. 95 percent of professing Christians do not read their Bible even 5 minutes a day, they too are real unacceptable sinners now.

Another Shotgun sensationalist postings too..

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False Teachers & Disobedient Christians

This list will be updated and much more will be added in time. By no means is the list below exhaustive or complete.

1. Pastor Fred Phelps

Church/Doctrines-Westboro Baptist Church/ Hyper Calvinist Protestant

False teachings- Preaches a message of hatred against unsaved people. This pastor believes that God hates “fags” which is not Biblical. For a basic exposure of Phelps person, please visit this website. http://www.fredphelps.com/

2. Pastor Steve Winter
Church/Doctrines – OneNess Pentecostalism

False teachings- Denies the trinity, does not believe that Jesus Christ is God, preaches a gospel of Hatred, and he teaches that Baptism and Speaking in Tongues are required for salvation.

Also holds to the following doctrines

Jesus is God the Father.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
The name of God is “Jesus.”
Denies pre-existence of the Word as the Son. Teaches that the He existed as the Father.
Being born again means repentance, baptism, and speaking in tongues.
Baptism must be administered by an ordained Oneness minister to be valid.
Baptism must be administered with the phrase, “In the name of Jesus” instead of the phrase, “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19).
Speaking in tongues is a necessary requirement to demonstrate that a person has been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and is, therefore, saved. It is claimed to be the initial sign of the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
Restitution of all things, though the devil and the angels will not be restored.
Women may be pastors. (Read 1 Cor 14, 1 Tim 2-3)
Only Oneness people will go to heaven.

For a more in depth expose of Winter, please visit the websites below.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/w00.html#winter
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html

Audio File Exposing Steve Winter

Steve Winter EXPOSED

Story of my experience with Steve Winter

My experience with Steve Winter

Report I received of a female being harassed by Steve Winter

Winter’s harassment of a female

3. Benny Hinn
Church/Doctrines –Word of Faith

4. TD Jakes
Church/Doctrines –Oneness Pentecostalism

False teachings- Oneness Pentecostalism

Denies the doctrine of the Trinity. (Makes them a cult)
Denies justification by faith alone by stating that baptism is also required for salvation.
Jesus is God the Father.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
The name of God is “Jesus.”
Baptism is necessary for salvation.
Denies pre-existence of the Word as the Son. Teaches that the He existed as the Father.
Being born again means repentance, baptism, and speaking in tongues.
Baptism must be administered by an ordained Oneness minister to be valid.
Baptism must be administered with the phrase, “In the name of Jesus” instead of the phrase, “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19).
Speaking in tongues is a necessary requirement to demonstrate that a person has been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and is, therefore, saved. It is claimed to be the initial sign of the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
Restitution of all things, though the devil and the angels will not be restored.
Women may be pastors. (Read 1 Cor 14, 1 Tim 2-3)
Only Oneness people will go to heaven.

For a website exposing TD Jakes

http://www.forgottenword.org/jakes.html

5. Creflo Dollar
Church/Doctrines –Word of Faith

False teachings Prosperity Gospel Word of Faith

6. Bill Johnson
Church/Doctrines – Bethel Church/ Word of Faith

False teachings- He teaches a Word of Faith gospel, and as such is a false teacher. Although I cannot say for certain that Johnson is unsaved, what I can say is that the Word of faith movement is false, and Johnson is in error for teaching some of the hellfire doctrines of the movement. Johnson loves Benny Hinn, and Hinn is no question a false teacher.

Check out the link below for a exposure of Bill Johnson

Johnson’s Word of Faith Theology

Listen to this audio file testimony of an experience that someone had with one of Johnson’s students.

Demon Possessed Bethel Church female

7. Kenneth & Gloria Copeland
Church/Doctrines – Word of Faith

False teachings

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/copeland/general.htm

8. Peter S. Ruckman
Church/Doctrines- Fundamentalist Baptist

False Teachings

EXTREME King James Version Onlyism

Peter Ruckman’s letter to CERM (Church Education Resource Ministries)

9. Tom Cruise (Actor)
Church/Doctrines-Scientology

False Teachings

Scientology

Audio Clip EXPOSURE of Tom Cruise and Scientology

Tom Cruise and Scientology EXPOSED

10. Randy Clark

Church/Doctrines- Word of Faith

False Teachings

Word of Faith

Audio Clip EXPOSURE of Randy Clark

Randy Clark EXPOSED

11. Patricia King

Church/Doctrines- Word of Faith

False Teachings

Word of Faith

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Below are some names of some of

the Word of faith teachers. ( So what?)

Benny Hinn
Kenneth Kopeland
Gloria Kopeland
Creflo Dollar
Paul Crouch
Joel Osteen
Kenneth Hagen
TD Jakes
Bill Johnson

While I would love to write about every false teacher in this movement ( and what about in all of the Baptist, Brethren, Evangelical churches too?)

This above site is deceptive, dishonest, it also does treat their false speculation as being the truth.. for example – “Following are examples of the Prophets and Apostles Problems: 1. Paul had a chronic illness with his Eyes” But there is no direct reference to the Bible proving this or in any historical writings, Paul’s admitted thorn in the side was a demon, a messenger from Satan, who came to bruise Paul often because he Paul had wrongfully persecuted and killed Christians in the past .. as the Bible says itself… etc., they are not very good Bible expositors now too.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/

My other top posts

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/those-crazy-charismatics-or-pentecostals/

Do see my other posts on liars, bullies, bashers, control freaks, etc.. persons with a hidden agenda, like the false dispensationalists.

What if I told you that most professing Christians

What if I told you that most professing Christians still cannot hear God’s voice and they often livingly still do claim that God speaks to them , leads them, how unbelievable now is that too? So what is the reason for this now too? http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html

(Deu 12:8 KJV) Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

(Judg 17:6 KJV) In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

(1 Ki 15:5 KJV) Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

(1 Ki 15:11 KJV) And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

(2 Ki 22:2 KJV) And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in all the way of David his father, and turned not aside to the right hand or to the left.

(2 Chr 14:2 KJV) And Asa did that which was good and right in the eyes of the LORD his God:

(2 Chr 20:32 KJV) And he walked in the way of Asa his father, and departed not from it, doing that which was right in the sight of the LORD.

(Prov 12:15 KJV) The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

(Prov 21:2 KJV) Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.

(Acts 4:19 KJV) But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.

ONE OF THE SADDEST, MOST TRAGIC THINGS ABOUT CHRISTIANS AND THE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TODAY IS HOW THEY MOSTLY ALL HAVE BEEN SO EVIDENTIALLY SECULARIZED.

And this is evident by the too often unbiblical church approach, including the secular church organization, management structure, and the secularized theology now as well even where man has falsely become the centre of the Bible and the universe still and not God himself, The Holy Ghost has been replaced by the pastors and their interpretation of of Bible too. But even the Bible itself now is not the Word of God.

It is understandable that so many people read the Bible and they still cannot understand it cause rather according to the Bible itself, the Bible itself is not the Word Of God for the Voice of the Lord. the Word of God, the Holy Spirit himself is living and active, he penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit.., he judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27 and only The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26.

IN FACT the many Bible scriptures themselves that refer to the Word of God are not at all referring to the Bible itself now too , but rather they refer to voice of God or the voice the Lord , the voice of the living spirit of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit himself. So you can READ OR memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter and verse, AS MANY HAVE, and it will not only gain you nothing with God but it very likely also means you will not even know God sadly TOO. There is a huge pitfall in Christianity thinking that sates that the Bible alone is the Word of God, and thinking all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer to the Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God speaking to you. So If you don’t listen to the true Voice of God, you will never grow; you will never know what it really is to repent; you will never receive his changing, purifying grace; you will not find God; and you ALSO STILL will not have any reward in the Kingdom of God or Christ.

Like many in the early church, even if you can’t read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of Heaven as a son of God forever – by listening to God’s voice and obeying it. God’s spirit, who desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible. He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible, you will only get crumbs beneath the table.

Worshipping the Bible alone is an act of idoltary.

Do see also http://pbulow.tripod.com/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/why-you-should-believe-in-the-bible-jesus-christ-and-the-holy-spirit-too/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

Todd Bentley, someone has to say it to you..

Just cause 70 percent of pastors admitted to having done adultery or counselling divorce, or 30 percent evangelcials commit divorce does still not mean any of them are getting away with any of it next too

And why should I still be so surprised that so many Chuuch Ministers too now are objectionably alcoholics and adulterers as well?

as I have said many times before, even since the Garden of Eden, the devil still lies about the truth and he still says to you that you will not die if you disobey God’s law.. and he does that about lusts, stealing, alcohol, adultery, divorce or whatever.. to keep the people in bondage in their wrongful sins.. but Adam and Eve still paid a price for their sins next, so do we all..

(John 4:37 KJV) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.(Luke 12:57 KJV) Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?

Mark 14:21 For the Son of Man is going as it stands written concerning Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good (profitable and wholesome) for that man if he had never been born.

Sadly too many martial relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:

-The marriage partners push their spouse for total commitment

-They try hard get mostly what they want

-They next too often even lose interest in the sex

-They next become attracted to someone else

-They start cheating with the someone else

-They become angry and resentful for the guilt they feel

-They begin telling their original partner, spouse that they need time apart

-They mostly blame their old partner, spouse for their behavior…and eventually, after making themselves and everyone around them miserable for an indefinite, but usually, a long period of time, they do end their relationships, marriages.

Next even the new relationships and marriages will likely continue to follow this same pattern.

Evangelist Todd Bentley, who led a Pentecostal revival in Lakeland from a modest beginning to near-historic proportions, has filed for separation from his wife, Bentley and his wife had been undergoing marriage counseling for a few years.

Todd Bentley, the evangelist who has led the Florida Outpouring revival here in Lakeland since April 2, has filed for separation from his wife and might not return to the revival, according to his former local spokesperson, Lynne Breidenbach. She said Bentley made the announcement to his staff this afternoon. Bentley and his wife, Shonnah, have two daughters and a son and are Canadian citizens. Under Canadian law, separation is a first step in divorce proceedings and takes nine months.   http://religion.theledger.com/default.asp?item=2248784

“Undoubtedly the pressures and the burden of the Outpouring, which approaches 144 days on August 23rd, have helped to create an atmosphere of fatigue and stress that has exacerbated existing issues in their relationship,”

THIS situation IS all “very sad” but insisted it “doesn’t invalidate what GOD HAD DONE, NOT WHAT Todd did” at the revival.God uses fallen, flawed people.

(Psa 119:11 KJV) Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

(1 Ki 8:46 KJV) If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,)

(Eccl 7:20 KJV) For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

(Ezek 3:21 KJV) Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

(Rom 6:12 KJV) Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

(1 John 1:9 KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

(1 John 1:10 KJV) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Now Are we ALL to judge any of this ?

Apostle Paul clearly had confirmed that we are to judge anyone within the Church, the body of Jesus Christ, only..

(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

(Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(Luke 12:58 KJV) When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison.

(1 Cor 5:12 KJV) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

(1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

(1 Cor 6:3 KJV) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

(1 Cor 6:4 KJV) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

(1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

(1 Cor 11:31 KJV) For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

(Heb 10:30 KJV) For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

(Rom 7:1 KJV) Know ye not, brethren how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

(Rom 7:2 KJV) For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3    So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

(Heb 13:4 KJV) Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

“The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to the husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body; but the husband does. Likewise, the husband does not have authority over his own body; but the wife does” (Corinthians 7:3-5).

“Do not deprive one another except perhaps by agreement for a set time” (1 Cor 7:5).

(Mal 2:14 KJV) Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant. 15   And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth. 16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

TODD BENTLEY BE OBEDIENT TO GOD AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. GOD HATES DIVORCE , ADULTERY AND EVEN HYPOCRITES TOO. AND DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE IS NOT PERMISSIBLE FOR TWO PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WHILE BOTH OF THEM ARE ALIVE.   SO “Todd Bentley”   swallow your pride, your own lusts, goals, false desires but now also still be an EXAMPLE TO THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST, love His church, his work, but now also still love your own wife. AND WORK NOT ONLY TO BE A GOOD PREACHER BUT ALSO TO BE A GOOD HUSBAND, AND GOOD FATHER TO YOUR CHILDREN TOO .

see also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/healing-todd-bentley-florda-lakeland-revival/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/the-problemed-family/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/deliberate-unforgiveness/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-false-divorce-incentives/

Healing, Todd Bentley, Florda, Lakeland, Revival, Latter rain

Rev Todd Bentley showed us all this week too he was very normal person after all.. a sinner like all of us too..

Why are so many people still obsessed with fantasy, romance, divorce, drugs, alcohol, even TV, movies, sex, pleasure, pornography.. for most of them personally it is an initial lazy, false escapism approach from the too often real negative aspects of life that we firstly all tend to have, particularly due to our own unrepentant sins and due to also try to escape from Satan’s buffeting, harassment too….

the grass may appear greener in the neighbors yard cause you do not know what hardships they are facing now, the supposedly rich persons included. While God for his faithful few give them the grace to endure hardships and even to overcome them, we are all nevertheless bound to have trails and tribulations, hardships, all of us..

Instead of personally first learning how to use the Bible to oppose Satan, obtain peace in their own life, too many persons turn to the flesh..

The problem also with the common graphic misrepresentation of the pleasure of sex but the reality is that even the Gays, lesbians, adulterers tend to have even more negative consequences, oppressions in their life to force them into deeper bondage with Satan.. Jesus sets us free from all that.

(Gal 5:16 KJV) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

Mark 10:19 You know the commandments: Do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.

In the ongoing secular societies of today sex sins, specially sex outside of marriage, adultery is personally still taken much too lightly, but these sins for Christians also do have real, serious negative consequences, the disapproval of God clearly indicated now in the Bible. In reality when one has indulged in adultery, one has tended to also simultaneously or previously indulged in many other unacceptable sins now too. Over 55 percent of evangelical pastors have committed adultery now too in North America… and it is no wonder they wrongfully tend to counsel divorce too.

The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein. (Proverbs 22:14 KJV)

Mark 12:24 Jesus said to them, Is not this where you wander out of the way {and} go wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God?

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, The first {and} principal {one of all commands} is: Hear, O Israel, The Lord our God is one Lord; 30 And you shall love the Lord your God out of {and} with your whole heart and out of {and} with all your soul (your life) and out of {and} with all your mind (with your faculty of thought and your moral understanding) and out of {and} with all your strength. {This is the first and principal commandment.} 31 The second {is like it and} is this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.

Some persons absurdly say even that “Pentecostals are not Christians” they are clearly ignorant persons, ignorant of the Bible itself, ignorant of the Holy Spirit ‘s teaching, leading as well, ignorant sadly even of Jesus Christ himself.

I find it so remarkable too even these days that many of the Christian critics comments about the Lakeland revival, the latter rain movement, and Todd Bentley that I have read on the net are now also very similar, even similarly maliciously too, as to what the other past critics, note the professing religious ones now too, had said about Jesus and his own revival, Ministry too.. but why should it be so amazing for it is the same Devil, demons who inspire many of them continually to us all too.

Mark 3:21 And when those who belonged to Him (His kinsmen) heard it, they went out to take Him by force, for they kept saying, He is out of His mind (beside Himself, deranged)!

Mark 3:22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, He is possessed by Beelzebub, and, By [the help of] the prince of demons He is casting out demons.
Mark 3:23 And He summoned them to Him and said to them in parables (illustrations or comparisons put beside truths to explain them), How can Satan drive out Satan?
Mark 3:24 And if a kingdom is divided {and} rebelling against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
Mark 3:25 And if a house is divided (split into factions and rebelling) against itself, that house will not be able to last.
Mark 3:26 And if Satan has raised an insurrection against himself and is divided, he cannot stand but is [surely] coming to an end.
Mark 3:27 But no one can go into a strong man’s house and ransack his household goods right and left {and} seize them as plunder unless he first binds the strong man; then indeed he may [thoroughly] plunder his house.
Mark 3:28 Truly {and} solemnly I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever abusive {and} blasphemous things they utter;
Mark 3:29 But whoever speaks abusively against {or} maliciously misrepresents the Holy Spirit can never get forgiveness, but is guilty of {and} is in the grasp of an everlasting trespass.
Mark 3:30 For they persisted in saying, He has an unclean spirit.

Mark 10:39 And they replied to Him, We are able. And Jesus told them, The cup that I drink you will drink, and you will be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized,
Jesus himself said that not everyone would even believe the same amount even with the same truth they had received..

Mark 4:14 The sower sows the Word.
Mark 4:15 The ones along the path are those who have the Word sown [in their hearts], but when they hear, Satan comes at once and [by force] takes away the message which is sown in them.
Mark 4:16 And in the same way the ones sown upon stony ground are those who, when they hear the Word, at once receive {and} accept {and} welcome it with joy;
Mark 4:17 And they have no real root in themselves, and so they endure for a little while; then when trouble or persecution arises on account of the Word, they immediately are offended (become displeased, indignant, resentful) {and} they stumble {and} fall away.
Mark 4:18 And the ones sown among the thorns are others who hear the Word;
Mark 4:19 Then the cares {and} anxieties of the world {and} distractions of the age, and the pleasure {and} delight {and} false glamour {and} deceitfulness of riches, and the craving {and} passionate desire for other things creep in and choke {and} suffocate the Word, and it becomes fruitless.
Mark 4:20 And those sown on the good (well-adapted) soil are the ones who hear the Word and receive {and} accept {and} welcome it and bear fruit–some thirty times as much as was sown, some sixty times as much, and some [even] a hundred times as much.
Mark 4:21 And He said to them, Is the lamp brought in to be put under a peck measure or under a bed, and not [to be put] on the lampstand?
Mark 4:22 [Things are hidden temporarily only as a means to revelation.] For there is nothing hidden except to be revealed, nor is anything [temporarily] kept secret except in order that it may be made known.
Mark 4:23 If any man has ears to hear, let him be listening {and} let him perceive {and} comprehend.
Mark 4:24 And He said to them, Be careful what you are hearing. The measure [of thought and study] you give [to the truth you hear] will be the measure [of virtue and knowledge] that comes back to you–and more [besides] will be given to you {who hear.}
Mark 4:25 For to him who has will more be given; and from him who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away [by force],
Mark 4:26 And He said, The kingdom of God is like a man who scatters seed upon the ground,
Mark 4:27 And then continues sleeping and rising night and day while the seed sprouts and grows {and} increases–he knows not how.

Sadly too many people wrongfully try to limit what God can and cannot do these days now as well.

King David’s wife did not support him fully, Job’s wife as well but so have the unsupportive wives of many other faithful Christian persons including John Bunyan now too. For that matter neither did Jesus own family now too.

Mark 3:33 And He replied, Who are My mother and My brothers? 34 And looking around on those who sat in a circle about Him, He said, See! Here are My mother and My brothers; 35 For whoever does the things God wills is My brother and sister and mother!

Mark 10:52 And Jesus said to him, Go your way; your faith has healed you. And at once he received his sight and accompanied Jesus on the road.

Mark 4:39 And He arose and rebuked the wind and said to the sea, Hush now! Be still (muzzled)! And the wind ceased (sank to rest as if exhausted by its beating) and there was [immediately] a great calm (a perfect peacefulness). 40 He said to them, Why are you so timid {and} fearful? How is it that you have no faith (no firmly relying trust)? 41 And they were filled with great awe {and} feared exceedingly and said one to another, Who then is this, that even wind and sea obey Him?

Mark 9:1 AND JESUS said to them, Truly {and} solemnly I say to you, there are some standing here who will in no way taste death before they see the kingdom of God come in [its] power.

Mark 9:7 And a cloud threw a shadow upon them, and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is My Son, the [most dearworthy] Beloved One. Be constantly listening to {and} obeying Him!
Mark 9:8 And looking around, they suddenly no longer saw anyone with them except Jesus only.

Mark 9:17 And one of the throng replied to Him, Teacher, I brought my son to You, for he has a dumb spirit.
Mark 9:18 And wherever it lays hold of him [so as to make him its own], it dashes him down {and} convulses him, and he foams [at the mouth] and grinds his teeth, {and} he [falls into a motionless stupor and] is wasting away. And I asked Your disciples to drive it out, and they were not able [to do it].
Mark 9:19 And He answered them, O unbelieving generation [without any faith]! How long shall I [have to do] with you? How long am I to bear with you? Bring him to Me.
Mark 9:33 And they arrived at Capernaum; and when [they were] in the house, He asked them, What were you discussing {and} arguing about on the road?
Mark 9:34 But they kept still, for on the road they had discussed {and} disputed with one another as to who was the greatest.
Mark 9:35 And He sat down and called the Twelve [apostles], and He said to them, If anyone desires to be first, he must be last of all, and servant of all.
Mark 9:36 And He took a little child and put him in the center of their group; and taking him in [His] arms, He said to them,
Mark 9:37 Whoever in My name {and} for My sake accepts {and} receives {and} welcomes one such child also accepts {and} receives {and} welcomes Me; and whoever so receives Me receives not only Me but Him Who sent Me.
Mark 9:38 John said to Him, Teacher, we saw a man who does not follow along with us driving out demons in Your name, and we forbade him to do it, because he is not one of our band [of Your disciples].
Mark 9:39 But Jesus said, Do not restrain {or} hinder {or} forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in My name will soon afterward be able to speak evil of Me.
Mark 9:40 For he who is not against us is for us.
Mark 9:41 For I tell you truly, whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to {and} bear the name of Christ will by no means fail to get his reward.
Mark 9:42 And whoever causes one of these little ones (these believers) who acknowledge {and} cleave to Me to stumble {and} sin, it would be better (more profitable and wholesome) for him if a [huge] millstone were hung about his neck, and he were thrown into the sea.

Mark 9:49 For everyone shall be salted with fire.

Mark 9:50 Salt is good (beneficial), but if salt has lost its saltness, how will you restore [the saltness to] it? Have salt within yourselves, and be at peace {and} live in harmony with one another.

Now recently, this week with Todd Bentley’s divorce announcement, I was reminded when I was at a week long seminar decades ago and the preacher was preaching great and I admit I started to hero worship the preacher but on the last Friday afternoon session the preacher had preached some falsehood.. and I was drastically horrified, dismayed, as to how this could be, could his whole week’s teaching now also be in error. Next I prayed and asked God how could that be? why did it occur? and God replied to me ” you had taken your eyes of me unto the preacher, and I had to show you what he, the preacher was really like.. many look up to man and not God.. we all need to focus solely on Jesus again and always.. .and even to get back to praying and fasting now too.

Todd Bentley reminds me we are all sinners, you and I included..

Don’t even look at any “strange women.” If you do, you will utter perverse things. Proverbs 23:33

(Exo 20:14 KJV) Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Now for decades, I write about, deal with key political figures who are all to be exemplary as citizen paid employees too.., I observe their acts, responses to my letters.. and let me tell you that the really bad guys are so predicable and they make it easy for me to look further into what they are really also doing wrong.. for bad guys rarely tend to be a little bit pregnant.. so there are the basics I look for that will shortly indicate their great downfall!!
– their own positive or negative management style, are they power hungry, control freaks, abusers, and so I look at their ongoing performance record abuses of others including their discrimination, verbal or physical abuses, human rights abuses?
– their attitude towards money, is it normal or have they become greedy, gone overboard, and so do they cheat, lies, steal, live high on the hog?
– yes I even look for religious hypocrisy, even also next their adultery, cause I know it will predictably happen with the bad guys eventually, Proverbs says this is God’s punishment.. likely for stealing poor people’s money, or abusing the rights of others.. seriously too.
– even the type of friends they associate, hang around with, birds of feathers flock together, for we even seem to know that alcoholics love to associate with other alcoholics too etc.

Now I have openly written about Todd Bentley and others.. even that Todd was hanging around with bad people, such as the bad pastors of the Toronto airport Christian fellowship, and he was raking in loads of poor people’s money..

Mark 12:38 And in [the course of] His teaching, He said, Beware of the scribes, who like to go around in long robes and [to get] greetings in the marketplaces [public forums], 39 And [have] the front seats in the synagogues and the chief couches (places of honor) at feasts,

Lying, stealing, tax evasions, slander, gossiping, abuse of others, adultery, and alcohol, are the common sins of 70 percent of Pastors so why do many they pick on Todd Bentley alone now?

TheDeeZone

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfuly cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back..

My undeniable Stats are not only based on the News media reports, but on personal undeniable pastoral witneses, pastoral testimonials.

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/distorters-disrupters-decievers/

You can bully me, bash me, play on words too, even call me a liar, but that will not deny the truth of what I have experienced the last 3 decades on the net and in many in churches now as well.. the truth that any bad Conservative is not any better than a bad Liberal.. and professing Conservatives, professing Christians, evangelical pastors included who themselves now wrongfully are too often now just as ungodly human right violators as any of the ungodly, secular persons too. They also should first Judge themselves before they judge the others, Christians too like to judge others but not themselves.

Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too.

On top of that I have openly admitted as told me decades ago by my Christian Missionary Alliance pastors himself firstly 70 percent of the pastors today in north America are no good, ungodly still, and my own past Alliance pastor he himself also was no saint, angel. But this does not mean I or God have to accept any of their immoral, unacceptable abuses of even me now quietly too.

If you do not like what I write please do not read it, but next lying, slandering me, abusing me is never acceptable.. never. Now let’s continue the topic of any wrongful abuse of even me on the net or elswhere too.. in reply to my posts by anyone too!

Too many sinful. spoiled persons clearly have a false concept of God, that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.

Like I have often said now elsewhere too

Most Christians still do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a day, so they talk about things they really do not know, have not experienced, and the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too but they love to judge the others.

My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?

“There is no question that is is pretty hard to obey a book that you don’t read. I agree that the lack of respect for, reading of and obedience to scripture is epidemic. If the church would simply open God’s word in faith and allow the Spirit to lead and teach us and then if we would respond in submissive obedience out of a heart of simple faith, I believe the world would be different. I also agree that it is impossible to know God without seeking Him as He has revealed Himself to us in His word. So many “Christians” speak of a God they clearly have not spent time with as He Himself has revealed Himself.”

If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish cheapskates.

Secondly all pastors, elders, ministers should be called specifically for their Ministry directly by God. Most of them today have not been called for the ministry, for they are hirelings.

True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one hour and pray daily for others.

what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act like real anointed Christians. http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!!

I have dealt with that issue on my sites in detail.. we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.

http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST http://pbulow.tripod.com/ etc.

“TheDeeZone (17:52:28) : http://thedeezone.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/revival-and-evangelism/

Non-conformer,

You have never supplied where you get your stats. I notice that you are Canadian but make claims about Americans. Are you referring to residents of the Americas or the USA.

Your facts are unsubstantiated.

I have visited several of your sites the information posted on them is redundant and illogical at best.

You make great claims but fail to support your claims or provide a solution.

The majority of ministers I know are called by God, do cheat, lie, steal or any of the other things you claim. Also the majority of Christians I know are really Christians not merely professing with there mouths.
This is the only time I am allowing you to repost items here.

My guess is that you are more than just non-conforming.

Slander involves spoken word not written ( what a false play on words)

Any further reposting of items or inappropriate postings will be deleted. Unsure of what I considered acceptable read the page entitled About Comments, there is a link at the top. — DH”

Well here is my reply

My witness alone even is an undeniable fact .Now DO stop falsely TELLING ME WHO AND WHAT I AM AND WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO.. TRY TO CONTROL SOLELY YOURSELF. You like to label me, bully me. libel me, slander me, but what do you call yourself.. hopefully not a Christian.. I have dealt with too many like you..

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/changing-yourself-first-positively/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/woe-to-the-shepherds/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/amazing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/equality/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..

Now let me have my right of defence, my full right of free speech too, for in your own personal attack of me , your false judging of me too, someone you never met or know now firstly too, so now as you are aware you DE HORRD are not a court appointed judge, and we are not in your court room, so I do not have to play to your false, one sided , often changing demands, demonic rules now too. I am not your slave, you are not by Boss, or a superior one, I do not work for you, I do not take orders from you, I rightfully do not have to do what you say, I can use my own right of free speech, I can write my own posts too still. I can do what I want on my own too. Now clearly your own behavior is clearly unchristlike, unchristian, and you need to have a more humble attiutide and Christ like firstly too. This is my site and not yours now too even. I am a decent, honest, law abiding Christian and a mature senior too. No one has ever found me guity of libel in any court of law too. Do also see my posts on Libel now too.

Now DH you next had entered my site, made a post, reply and I had replied to you. And I had also posted my comments on on your site.. but now you next had wrongfully threatened to cut me off your site.. sad.. that you had degenerated that much.. but you had not replied to all of my questions to you and yet you louldy demand I do reply to you .. so please now also do reply to my questions too..

Firstly in kindness what real facts do and you have to deny any of this? Even about my past posts about how mostly bad most evangelical pastors now are?

The 30 percent ungodly divorce rate amongst evangelicals and the 70 percent ungodly evangelical pastors who counsel divorce too?

Or the mostly only Pentecostal major TV ministries under investigations by a US senator? and what not the rest in fairness now too?

Do read my sites.. about the Bad Christian Missionary Alliance church, about the bad pastors at the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church too. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/ and http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/quartlerly-update-christian-posts/ and http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/pastors-elders-shepherds-christian-leaders-evangelists/

Please now also do cool down.. take a slow breathe of the spirit of God.. for contrary to what you wrote I have many times in reality now offered on my many sites the solutions to the problems of much too many bad pastors in North America, and yes too often it is the same major pastors who travel the evangelical circuits too.. even in the US or Canada, even in the same denominations now too.. even Benny Hinn was a [astor in Canada before he went to the US and so was Todd Bentley etc.. and many others now too.. it really is a small world..

You think that US Christians, pastors are more spiritual than those in Canada? and why is that?? do they not both have access to the same Holy Spirit, and even the same devil, and equally as well?

>> The majority of ministers I know are called by God, do cheat, lie, steal or any of the other things you claim.

>Also the majority of Christians I know are really Christians not merely professing with there mouths.

You had said that the Pastors cheat , lie andsteal, absue, slander but not their followers?

Still I was surprised in decades this is the fist time someone so unwisely had called me a liar so openly now too.. I of course wanted to know why? and what really sore toe or idol that had I stepped on in reality?

Please now also so called pastoral expert now do also now tell me SPECIALLY as to how many Pastor you had talked too that can SPECIALLY admit like I can the place, the time that GOD HAD CALLED THEM SPECIFICALLY INTO THE MINISTRY.. MOST pastor that I talked too, had asked this question too, they could nor and don’t even tell me the assurance of their specifc Ministry callings, yet you do give such a ridicuclous assurance on their behalf yourself now ? Why? the reality bothers you and you do not want to face it?

In your past pastoral experiences with Church pastors, now do also tell me as to how many pastors have you personaly, in detail

interviewed, 5 – 100? or more? and also how many did you help to be rightfully fired,

and how many bad churches now did you personally close as well?

I myself have been dealing with crooked pastors now specially for 3 decades.. and sadly I have seem much too seen many rightfully fired too, even 2 original Church founding pastors now too and I had helped to close one large bad evangelical church, the Calgary Christian centre, at God’s own specific request, directions to me too.

You have also now done how many church and pastoral visitations yourself the last 50 years too?

Now if you actually read my sites.. I had said cleary already said many times that the bad pastors should repent, change their bad lifestyle, and now stop cheating, lying, stealing and be rather filled, baptized with the holy spirit as the sole acceptable solution now too. Righfully so now too..

Supposedly you a Christian sister please do kindly note that I was never interesting in having a shouting match with you or anyone.. even about the bad pastors and now a major American news media had surveyed American pastors, and some of my personal sources about bad pastors also were major American pastors..

so you clearly are grasping at STRAWS to uphold the much too many fallen evangelical idols, pastors, and the abuses that do you and I do now hear about are not even the tip of the iceberg..

in one city alone I had personally had interview 45 evangelical pastors and none used the Bible in their Ministry..

so you can delete my posts but they anyway they are still posted on my sites… the undeniable truths as to what most pastors are like these days even witnessed by me the last 4 decades too and by many others too.

I admit there are much too many crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. but there seems much too many critics on the net.. who clearly are violating God’s instruction to try to talk to a brother humbly, personally about their sins, sins.. before shouting it from the housetops.. wrongfully mostly this is not been ing even done as we can all see on the net daily too.

I am a pastor, I have been to latter day Pentecostal churches, I have encountered good and bad pastors in many denominations including Alliance, Baptist, Pentecostal ones.. but firstly I tend to rightfully speak to a pastor face to face, get to know firsthand what he is like before I am wise enough to publically condemn, judge him

But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, how can you really judge the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..

Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof..

Now here for an example as to how I see ignorance, hidden agendas, bad critics when I make posts on the net too..

but this is what should not be amazing for real Christians.. I had posted the same initial simple reposes, comments on many professing Christian sites that I had visited today.. and I next had got mostly similar positive comments but on 2 of the sites the persons had written me back and sais they could not understand what I had shared.. and that often happens..

Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! You cannot even understand God’s truths.

(Rom 8:7 KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

(1 Cor 3:1 KJV) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

(1 Cor 3:4 KJV) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it.. I understand some persons are more mature than others, some are spiritual and some just carnal even though they profess to be all Christians.

Like I often get this typical response “A hearty AMEN! Thanks for your comment. Be blessed. ”

“Hi Brother. thanks for dropping by. I totally agree with your comment, it wont eliminate dry times and trials but it is a vital part of our Christianity. … Frank”

hey I post the same posts on different professing Christian sites and I get different responses too.. interesting..

and yet I also get the clearly negative ones..

A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they will not contradict the Bible.. and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too.

But of course if any others because they really still do not know God and/or because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk with them thus they really should find out why too! otherwise they will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themselves instead..

So how are they dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their Lord, Savior, or are they just playing a religious game?

so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is reflective of the true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..

Now I have often already covered topics like this many times too on my own sites in detail. http://pbulow.tripod.com/ including the too often false Pentecostal bashers…

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/the-posts-the-lakeland-revival-bashers-seem-to-despise/

and you can also see what many others say too about the much too many bad pastors these days too

http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/church_issues/fraud_embezzlement_illegal_benefits.htm

http://picklinginhispresence.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/liars-and-perjurers-in-revival-john-davies-cnt-with-walter-kambulow-concerning-todd-bambambam-bentley-a-others/

http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/

But firstly and sadly my you are wrongfully too free with your slandering, offensive, insulting words, libel words towards me and my posts.. for a start do you abuse everyone like this who writes now something you do not want to hear or just me.. or just me? RSVP.

but you STILL trying to tell me what I can or cannot write even to you is really grossly absurd as you next writing the post for me too.. the controlling sprit is not from God.. and you firstly Judging me and saying next back I cannot respond, judge you is also really absurd now on your own part too. You now id not like when I replied to your own comments to me? Sorry, too bad. Grow up, become a decent, mature adult like me and stop being a spoiled brat, merely now a child. If you cannot handle the response you get from others just don’t write to them in the first place now too. WHEN YOU DO START TO ACT LIKE AN ADULT I WILL NEXT NOT HAVE TO TREAT YOU LIKE A LITTLE KID.

Nice talking to you..

God bless you

Bashing Pentecostals Christians on the net even by fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too

the posts the Lakeland Revival bashers seem to despise

Florida Healing Outpouring with Todd Bentley: 30 Reasons for Healing (16-30)

27 06 2008

First, Roy Fields is back! Others leading has been moving, but there is something about him that changes the atmosphere. Roy, welcome back. Second if you are in Lakeland Fl on the 4th of July there will be free food. From 4-7pm, next Friday there be a celebration with free food. This will also lead into a water Baptism service. I am just thrilled for both of these events. The first shows a desire to reach out to host community and give back to those who have given so much. As important, the second is another example of how Fresh Fire and Ignited are taking care and shepherding those who are making profession of faith under their leadership.

Another fun fact, there is now a medical doctor who is reviewing all the medical reports about healing. The desire for accountability and integrity is great in Lakeland. One of the assistants said there is a four step process for those who take the stage professing healing
1 Pastor volunteers from around the world, screen and test, those who claim to have received healing
2 This is then relayed to those who bring the person on stage, to ensure what is shared is consistent
3 After they are on the platform, a survey is filled out with symptoms, sign of healing and contacts.
4 FOLLOW UP! 1-2 weeks a phone call is made to see how they are doing.

Just some random quotes form Todd Bentley… he really does use the name of Jesus.
(This is just a sample, to show who the glory goes to)

“We are encouraging people to see doctors after healings. I believe in medicine”
“It is the power of Jesus. We are powerless without the power of the Holy Ghost
“Can we give thanks to Jesus for this.”
“We want to give all we can, leally, to the media to give the glory to Jesus.”
“We give all the glory to Jesus”
“Can we give Jesus all the glory tonight?”
while praying for healing, “Two new ankles in Jesus mighty name”

30 Reasons for Healings #16-30 (all verses NIV)

16. He does what he pleases – God is sovereign and healing happens because God chooses too.
17. Charitable Giving- (whole chapters but verses) Acts 9: 36 In Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (which, when translated, is Dorcas), who was always doing good and helping the poor and Acts10:2 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. Based on these verses miracles happens as a direct result of charitable giving. It would seem that when we take care of the pour, God reaches and extra measure of the miracles.
18. The Gospel – Mark 16:19-20 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. Healing is good news and, according to Todd, the Gospel is the power of God as well as the message of salvation
19. I am a friend of God’s – John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. God hears the prayers of His friends. What do you do for your “true” friends? The deeper the intimacy with God, the deeper the friendship. Is God your friend, because there seems to be many who understand Jehovah but do not understand Abba. Abba, is the characteristic of a deep personal relationship.
20. The Glory of God – John 11:4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”
21. The cures of the Law – Romans 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. Healings show that you free from the law of sin and death.
22. Desperation: Mark 5:27 When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, Sometime people need a touch so bad they push trough to get it. “if only this small amount” They are the ones who are desperate enough to reach out and get healed

23. Connection locked up

24. Name of God – Exodus 15:26 He said, “If you listen carefully to the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you.”

25. Communion – 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. This would seem to be a reason why you are not, but if it bring sickness maybe it bring healing (my thought on it, time was short so the last were real quick)

26. Gift of the Spirit- There was no verse give to justify this, but 1 Corinthians12:9-109to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

27. The name of Jesus – Triune God, Jesus is God see #24

28. The nature of the Holy Spirit – God creates when the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit moves. It was after Genesis 1:2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. That God said, “Let there be light.” IF the Spirit lives with us, then he is moving, we should expect creation (new body parts is creation).
29. I am Saved – James 5:15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Faith is a gift of the Spirit and only saved people have this. So salvation, brings faith, faith brings healing. And, yes because Jesus forgave my sins.
30. Kingdom of God- Mathew 6:10 Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. There is no sickness in the Kingdom, God preformes creation in His kingdom, there are miricals in the Kingdom, let it be so here

These are the second half of the 30 reasons, each with scripture refrances. People you may not like Todd Bentley, but please be careful arguing against the word of God. For those around Todd, let him know I said “thanks for the teaching, it has meant a lot to me.”

On a personal note: I blew out my knee today, while walking down some stairs. It hurt to move or even put pressure on it. Tonight, during the broadcast, I WAS HEALED. Proof of this, I wrote this whole blog standing up.

http://allenwilson.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/florida-healing-outpouring-with-todd-bentley-30-reasons-for-healing-16-30/

the Lakeland critics seem to be led by the devil..

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/

Do see also

http://pbulow.tripod.com/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://www.socyberty.com/Advice/Are-You-a-Control-Freak.101788

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/wrongful-accusations/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

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