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No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

 

 

(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  

 

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The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Palin has certainly sparked interest

 

 

Some persons wrongly try to advocate that Pentecostalism is a modern day religion that now is found solely in the United States originally whereas others do rightfully maintain rather it  is a revived New Testament form of Biblical Christianity. It is now a major world wide Charismatic branch of Christianity

 

There are various brands of Pentecostalism today but they all mostly tend to believe in similar aspects of their version of Christianity but not all. There is clearly one  false sect in this grouping now too.

  

The nomination of Republican vice President Sarah Plain has certainly sparked  interest world wide into the Pentecostal religion, and now many persons world wide as well as in the Americas do seek, do want to know seriously what is difference basically  about this Christian religion from the other existing differing Christian religions. 

 

The Christians now already  all supposedly believe in Jesus Christ as firstly being God, Jesus also being the promised Old testament Messiah as well, they the Christians they do all tend to believe in the existence also of the Holy Trinity too ,  where the personal Sprit of Christ, the Holy Spirit is also manifested as a separate personal entity who  carries  on the work of Jesus Christ ongoing in the genuine  Christian Believer’s personal life. It is estimated that only 30 percent of all Christian believers are genuine, actually practicing Christians  in the various Christian churches

 

And  all Christians tend to generally believe in the same Bible, the Old and New Testament  as being now the true revealed word of God to us all even about Jesus, the apostles, and the Christian church as well.

 

The Pentecostals tend to separately now believe that God speaks continually to each Christian  believer now as well personally, even outside of the Word of God, the Bible, by means of the Holy Spirit, and the Pentecostals tend to believe in the separate personal need of receiving the anointing, the Baptism of the  Holy spirit personally in one’s life , this now is clearly a separate experience from the experience of receiving one’s initial personal salvation, eternal life by faith in the innocent, sacrificial, shed blood of Jesus Christ.

 

The majority of the Pentecostals tend to believe in manifesting one of the the Charismatic gifts of the Holy spirit, often tongues , as evidence of now being personally baptized with the Holy spirit. .

 

They the Pentecostals do tend to  believe in the manifestations of the charismatic’s gifts of the Holy Spirit as being applicable today as well, whereas other Pentecostal limit it to solely speaking in tongues, and Pentecostals often do personally practice praying for personal, physical healing, even by the laying of hands on others, as well as the ministry of casting out demons out of individuals too.

  

Needless to say there are different versions by non Pentecostals about what a Pentecostal now are even, some lying and distorted too, depending on who you talk to as well.

 

The Pentecostals also do tend to believe in the local church being run by elders, apostles, prophets, bishops and not rather by a single one man ministry of a local Pastor.

 

Tithing is mandatory in some Pentecostal churches and in other it is not.

 

The Pentecostal  Church services tend to be vastly different, but not always, some churches are more active in participatory services of worshiping God in songs, tongues, and in prophecies and they also tend to have longer prayer services , and also longer, more diverse, less predictable  church services than many other supposedly Christian denominations.

 

Do see also

 

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-already-has-energized-conservative-religious-leaders/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/sarah-palin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/wonder-woman-sarah-palin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/prophetic-utterances-republican-sarah-palin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/the-witchhunt-against-the-pentecostals-backfired/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/favorite-christian-based-reading-resources/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/religious-topics-of-interest/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/disturbing-trend-sensationalized-religious-postings-bashings/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/what-is-the-general-christian-sentiment-towards-pentecostalism/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/betrayers-of-jesus-christ/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/   

 

 

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The Real Thing

 

(1 Chr 16:20 KJV)  And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21  He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22  Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. 23  Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; show forth from day to day his salvation. 24  Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations. 25  For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised: he also is to be feared above all gods. 26  For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 27  Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place. 28  Give unto the LORD, ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD glory and strength. 29  Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. 30  Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. 31  Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigneth. 32  Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. 33  Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he cometh to judge the earth. 34  O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. 35  And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us  together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise. 36  Blessed be the LORD God of Israel for ever and ever. And all the people said, Amen, and praised the LORD.

 

Now the majority of Pentecostals tend to define Jesus Christ as the Messiah, Savior, Baptizer of the  Holy Spirit, Healer, Deliverer, Coming King, Lord  and they also do believe in the whole Bible as the further revealed word of God by which we measure all truths now by too, they also do believe in the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ and in His second coming, return to earth for His own,  … they also do tend to believe in the existance of Heaven, Hell, the need of giving,  Servanthood, of adult Baptism, being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit now too. They also do believe in the need for continous prayer and daily Bible readings, Bible devotionals.

 
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40  Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;

 

 (Psa 37:23 KJV)  The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way. 24  Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand. 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

 

One of the most absurd statements that I have heard in the clearly ignorant fundamental Baptist, Plymouth Brethren  churches, was that Pentecostals are not Christians, and/or they are demon possessed, falsely even emotional persons, they supposedly are even a false cult, false sect  all rather spoken by narrow minded  fundamentalists persons who clearly themselves do not accept the Bible literally.

 

For the Fundamentals themselves now too often and falsely they pick and chose the parts of the Bible  they want to believe in, and distort the other parts too.  They wrongfully tend too often too not believe in the existence of the gift of Apostles, Prophets- elders, existence today as well, or in the gift healing, all of the 9 and more supernatural gifts of the Holy sprit, nor  do they the Fundamentalists too often  believe in emotionally   praising  the Lord, with real joy,  actively. And the Fundamentalists they  certainly have changed the role of the Church deacons from that which was defined in the New Testament, in the  book of Acts now too, selected and anointed persons who were to help and look after the poor people in the church.  

 

I have been a Pentecostal Christian for 3 decades and someone has yet to show me what is so unChristian with my faith from the Bible.  And for the two previous decades that I was Baptist I certainly saw a lot of liars, abusers, hypocrites, adulterers, idol worshippers, non practicing Christians too  in the Baptist, Brethren  faith now too.

 

I find it ironical that some people are so desperate to poof that all Pentecostals are false they even refer to Pentecostal preachers for support such as (1) Spiritual Authority: The Word And The Testimony by A.W. Tozer, 1950, and others too. 

 “Many Pentecostals will defend their experience by simply saying “it must be so because it is my experience”. This is a false comment by a false person now too. For I know whom I have believed in and he will raise me alive in the last day  too.

 Many of these false pentecostals bashers have to lie, distort, use straw, false arguements, and not the Bible itself to prove their points clearly now too. As we can all easily see now too. Why? because they firstly themslves really do not know the world of God too often, pastors included.. they mostly believe what other men have told them mostly.

 

I have met pretenders, imposters in all churches, in all of the denominations, even in the Baptist, Brethren churches  now too.  Don’t judge the whole church by the few..  

 

Now I do  agree that there are some, a very small few, false Pentecostal break away minority groups (such as United Pentecostal church  ), and I also do undeniably agree that  the majority of the Christian Missionary Alliance church members , adherents are non Christians, for they are mere lip serving Christians only for they really do differ  from the main Pentecostal churches when they  had broken away from them.  Now I know very clearly there are many Canadians who rightfully do not believe that our Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper , a Christian Missionary alliance church member now  is a Christian, and neither do I .  Do see http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/popular-christian-based-readinsg-resources/

  

 Also for certainty neither Mormons, nor Jehovah witnesses they are a sect, a cult and are not all also  real Christians even if they profess to be or think they are now too. I also do have rightfully serious doubts of the salvation of many Messianic Jewish believers who have not made Jesus Lord of their life and have not forsaken all, their culture now included,  to follow after Jesus Christ

 

Luke 18:28 And Peter said, See, we have left our own [things–home, family, and business] and have followed You. 29 And He said to them, I say to you truly, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 Who will not receive in return many times more in this world and, in the coming age, eternal life.

 

and not by a long shot would I agree that any Dispensationalists is a bonfied Christian now as well..    

 

(1Jn 1:4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

(1Jn 1:5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

(1Jn 1:6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

(1Jn 1:7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin

He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
PSALM 91
 
The secret place is not a cave, physical fortress, or city of refuge somewhere that the Lord has set apart for us as some caring ruler may dedicate for that purpose. It is not even His palace but the secret place is none other than His Own Presence. He Himself is my refuge and fortress!

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In my Father’s house

(John 14:2 KJV)  In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

One of the greatest promises we have besides all of our sins being forgiven and us next having eternal life as well is that Jesus has gone to heaven to prepare a home for each one of us and he will come back for us next as well.  

  

(John 14:4 KJV) 4  And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5  Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7  If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8  Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9  Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? 10  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11  Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

 

12  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 

 

Now why is it so unbelievable that some Christians cannot believe now that we can do the same miraculous works that Jesus did, is it because of their sinful unbelief, or the fact they are really not Christians rather still?

 

13  And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

 
15  If ye love me, keep my commandments.

 

anyone who continues to violate even the ten commandments really still does not love God.. does not know Him

 

16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

 

If we let him God will help us, talk to us, lead us into all truth

 

 

 

 

 

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about the False Teachers & Disobedient Christians

  

As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  (Prov 31:8 KJV)  “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9    Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.  

 

  smoking, abortion, drugs, drunkenness behavior, adultery, gay sex , lying, slander, is still immoral and unacceptable for any professing, Christian, evangelical persons especially  

 

Even the Latter Rain’s Rev Todd Bentley now Alone is firstly  personally accountable  and must takes the blame for all of his own poor acts.. and this will be a real repentance.. will he?

  

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/the-prophets-prophesy-falsely/

 

Surely now there are much more false Teachers, false prophets, false pastors,  disobedient Christians in all of the evangelical, Christian churches, so why pick on just these few now? do tell me..  Let’s be fair and mention them all in all of the denominations now too.. or none at all… it is the mere bullies, bashers who have a partial approach.. bashing the Pentecostals now mainly too is a further sign of an immoral approach. What no more evangelicals, Baptists, Alliance, Anglican, Reformed, Brethren, Mennonites, Lutheran  even on this list below even? Unbelievable!!!

 

70 percent of all Pastors are bad, and 70 percent of all professing Christians are not even real Christians. 95 percent of professing Christians do not read their Bible even 5 minutes a day, they too are real unacceptable sinners now.

   

Another Shotgun sensationalist postings too..

Church Education Resource Ministries	http://www.cerm.info	HOME PAGE

False Teachers & Disobedient Christians

 This list will be updated and much more will be added in time. By no means is the list below exhaustive or complete.

1. Pastor Fred Phelps

Church/Doctrines-Westboro Baptist Church/ Hyper Calvinist Protestant

False teachings- Preaches a message of hatred against unsaved people. This pastor believes that God hates “fags” which is not Biblical. For a basic exposure of Phelps person, please visit this website. http://www.fredphelps.com/

2. Pastor Steve Winter 
Church/Doctrines – OneNess Pentecostalism

False teachings- Denies the trinity, does not believe that Jesus Christ is God, preaches a gospel of Hatred, and he teaches that Baptism and Speaking in Tongues are required for salvation.

Also holds to the following doctrines

Jesus is God the Father.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
The name of God is “Jesus.”
Denies pre-existence of the Word as the Son. Teaches that the He existed as the Father.
Being born again means repentance, baptism, and speaking in tongues.
Baptism must be administered by an ordained Oneness minister to be valid.
Baptism must be administered with the phrase, “In the name of Jesus” instead of the phrase, “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19).
Speaking in tongues is a necessary requirement to demonstrate that a person has been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and is, therefore, saved. It is claimed to be the initial sign of the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
Restitution of all things, though the devil and the angels will not be restored.
Women may be pastors. (Read 1 Cor 14, 1 Tim 2-3)
Only Oneness people will go to heaven.

For a more in depth expose of Winter, please visit the websites below.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/w00.html#winter
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html

Audio File Exposing Steve Winter

Steve Winter EXPOSED

Story of my experience with Steve Winter

My experience with Steve Winter

Report I received of a female being harassed by Steve Winter

Winter’s harassment of a female

  
3. Benny Hinn
Church/Doctrines –Word of Faith

4. TD Jakes
Church/Doctrines –Oneness Pentecostalism

False teachings- Oneness Pentecostalism

Denies the doctrine of the Trinity. (Makes them a cult)
Denies justification by faith alone by stating that baptism is also required for salvation.
Jesus is God the Father.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
The name of God is “Jesus.”
Baptism is necessary for salvation.
Denies pre-existence of the Word as the Son. Teaches that the He existed as the Father.
Being born again means repentance, baptism, and speaking in tongues.
Baptism must be administered by an ordained Oneness minister to be valid.
Baptism must be administered with the phrase, “In the name of Jesus” instead of the phrase, “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19).
Speaking in tongues is a necessary requirement to demonstrate that a person has been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and is, therefore, saved. It is claimed to be the initial sign of the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
Restitution of all things, though the devil and the angels will not be restored.
Women may be pastors. (Read 1 Cor 14, 1 Tim 2-3)
Only Oneness people will go to heaven.

For a website exposing TD Jakes

http://www.forgottenword.org/jakes.html

  
5. Creflo Dollar
Church/Doctrines –Word of Faith

False teachings Prosperity Gospel Word of Faith                    

6. Bill Johnson
Church/Doctrines – Bethel Church/ Word of Faith

False teachings- He teaches a Word of Faith gospel, and as such is a false teacher. Although I cannot say for certain that Johnson is unsaved, what I can say is that the Word of faith movement is false, and Johnson is in error for teaching some of the hellfire doctrines of the movement. Johnson loves Benny Hinn, and Hinn is no question a false teacher.

Check out the link below for a exposure of Bill Johnson

Johnson’s Word of Faith Theology

Listen to this audio file testimony of an experience that someone had with one of Johnson’s students.

Demon Possessed Bethel Church female

 
7. Kenneth & Gloria Copeland
Church/Doctrines – Word of Faith

False teachings

 

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/copeland/general.htm             

8. Peter S. Ruckman
Church/Doctrines- Fundamentalist Baptist

False Teachings

EXTREME King James Version Onlyism 

Peter Ruckman’s letter to CERM (Church Education Resource Ministries)

9. Tom Cruise (Actor)
Church/Doctrines-Scientology

False Teachings

Scientology

 Audio Clip EXPOSURE of Tom Cruise and Scientology

Tom Cruise and Scientology EXPOSED

10. Randy Clark

Church/Doctrines- Word of Faith

False Teachings

Word of Faith

Audio Clip EXPOSURE of Randy Clark

Randy Clark EXPOSED

11. Patricia King

Church/Doctrines- Word of Faith

False Teachings

Word of Faith

© Church Education Resource Ministries  http://www.cerm.info/false_teachers.htmPermissions: You are permitted and encouraged to reproduce and distribute this material in any format provided that you do not alter the wording in anyway other than to correct minor spelling and grammar errors. For web posting, a link to this document on our website is preferred. And exceptions to the above must be explicitly approved by Church Education Resource Ministries.Please include the following statement on any distributed copy: By John Wolf © Church Education Resource Ministries. Website http://www.cerm.info. Email: johnw@cerm.info. Below are some names of some of the Word of faith teachers. ( So what?) Benny Hinn Kenneth Kopeland Gloria Kopeland Creflo Dollar Paul Crouch Joel Osteen Kenneth Hagen TD Jakes Bill Johnson   While I would love to write about every false teacher in this movement ( and what about in all of the Baptist, Brethren, Evangelical  churches too?)

  

 

This above  site is deceptive, dishonest, it also does treat their  false speculation as being the truth.. for example – “Following are examples of the Prophets and Apostles Problems: 1. Paul had a chronic illness with his Eyes” But there is no direct reference to the Bible proving this or in any historical writings, Paul’s admitted thorn in the side was a demon, a messenger from Satan,  who came to bruise Paul often  because he Paul had wrongfully persecuted and killed Christians in the past  .. as the Bible says itself… etc., they are not very good Bible expositors now too.          

 

 

 Do see also

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/equipped/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/

  

My other top posts

 

 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/those-crazy-charismatics-or-pentecostals/

 

 Do see my other posts on liars, bullies, bashers, control freaks, etc.. persons with a hidden agenda, like the false dispensationalists.

 

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What if I told you that most professing Christians

 

What if I told you that most professing Christians still cannot hear God’s voice and they  often livingly still do claim that God speaks to them , leads them,  how unbelievable now is that too? So what is the reason for this now too? http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html  

(Deu 12:8 KJV)  Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

 

(Judg 17:6 KJV)  In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

 

(1 Ki 15:5 KJV)  Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

 

(1 Ki 15:11 KJV)  And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

 

(2 Ki 22:2 KJV)  And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in all the way of David his father, and turned not aside to the right hand or to the left.

 

(2 Chr 14:2 KJV)  And Asa did that which was good and right in the eyes of the LORD his God:

 

(2 Chr 20:32 KJV)  And he walked in the way of Asa his father, and departed not from it, doing that which was right in the sight of the LORD.

 

(Prov 12:15 KJV)  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

 

(Prov 21:2 KJV)  Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.

 

(Acts 4:19 KJV)  But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.

 

ONE OF  THE SADDEST, MOST TRAGIC THINGS ABOUT CHRISTIANS  AND THE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TODAY IS HOW THEY MOSTLY ALL  HAVE BEEN SO EVIDENTIALLY SECULARIZED.

 

And this is evident by the too often unbiblical church approach, including the secular church organization, management   structure,  and the secularized  theology now as well even where man has falsely become  the centre of the Bible and the universe still and not God himself, The Holy Ghost has been replaced by the pastors and  their interpretation of of  Bible too.  But even the Bible itself now is not the Word of God.

 

It is understandable that so many people read the Bible and they still cannot understand it cause rather according to the Bible itself, the Bible itself  is  not the Word Of God   for  the Voice of the Lord. the Word of God, the Holy Spirit  himself is living and active, he penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit.., he judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12

 

 

My sheep hear My voice,   and I know them,  and they follow Me.  John 10:27 and only The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26.

 

IN FACT the many Bible scriptures themselves  that refer to the Word of God  are not at all referring to the Bible itself now too , but rather they refer to   voice of God or the voice the Lord , the voice of the living spirit of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit himself. So you can READ OR memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter and verse, AS MANY HAVE, and it will not  only gain you nothing with God but it very likely also means you will not even know God sadly TOO.  There is a huge pitfall in Christianity thinking  that sates that the Bible alone  is the Word of God, and thinking all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer to the Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God speaking to you.  So If you don’t listen to the true Voice of God, you will never grow; you will never know what it really is to repent; you will never receive his changing, purifying grace; you will not find God; and you ALSO STILL will not have any reward in the Kingdom of God or Christ.  

Like many in the early church, even if you can’t read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of Heaven as a son of God forever – by listening to God’s voice and obeying it. God’s spirit, who desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible.  He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible, you will only get crumbs beneath the table.

 

Worshipping the Bible alone is an act of idoltary.

 

Do see also http://pbulow.tripod.com/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/why-you-should-believe-in-the-bible-jesus-christ-and-the-holy-spirit-too/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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Todd Bentley, someone has to say it to you..

Just cause 70 percent of pastors admitted to having done adultery  or counselling divorce, or 30 percent evangelcials commit   divorce does still not  mean any of them are getting away with any of it next too

And  why should I still  be so surprised that so many Chuuch Ministers too now are objectionably alcoholics and adulterers as well?

as I have said many times before, even since the Garden of Eden, the devil still lies about the truth and he still says to you that you will not die if you disobey God’s law.. and he does that about lusts, stealing, alcohol, adultery, divorce or whatever.. to keep the people in bondage in their wrongful sins.. but Adam and Eve still paid a price for their sins next, so do we all..

(John 4:37 KJV) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth. (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.(Luke 12:57 KJV)  Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
 
Mark 14:21 For the Son of Man is going as it stands written concerning Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good (profitable and wholesome) for that man if he had never been born.

Sadly too many martial relationships today follow  a very predictable pattern:

-The marriage partners  push their spouse for total commitment

-They try hard get mostly what they want

-They next too often even lose interest in the sex

-They next become attracted to someone else

-They start cheating with the someone else

-They become angry and resentful for the guilt they feel

-They begin telling their original partner, spouse that they need time apart

-They mostly blame their old partner, spouse for their behavior…and eventually, after making themselves and everyone around them miserable for an indefinite, but usually, a long period of time, they do end their relationships,  marriages.

Next even the new relationships and marriages will likely continue to follow this same pattern.

Evangelist Todd Bentley, who led a Pentecostal revival in Lakeland from a modest beginning to near-historic proportions, has filed for separation from his wife, Bentley and his wife had been undergoing marriage counseling for a few years.
 
Todd Bentley, the evangelist who has led the Florida Outpouring revival here in Lakeland since April 2, has filed for separation from his wife and might not return to the revival, according to his former local spokesperson, Lynne Breidenbach. She said Bentley made the announcement to his staff this afternoon. Bentley and his wife, Shonnah, have two daughters and a son and are Canadian citizens. Under Canadian law, separation is a first step in divorce proceedings and takes nine months.   http://religion.theledger.com/default.asp?item=2248784
 
“Undoubtedly the pressures and the burden of the Outpouring, which approaches 144 days on August 23rd, have helped to create an atmosphere of fatigue and stress that has exacerbated existing issues in their relationship,”
 
THIS situation IS all “very sad” but insisted it “doesn’t invalidate what GOD HAD DONE, NOT WHAT Todd did” at the revival.God uses fallen, flawed people.
 
(Psa 119:11 KJV)  Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
 
(1 Ki 8:46 KJV)  If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,)
 
(Eccl 7:20 KJV)  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
 
(Ezek 3:21 KJV)  Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.
 
(Rom 6:12 KJV)  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 
(1 John 1:10 KJV)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
Now Are we ALL to judge  any of this ?
 
Apostle Paul clearly had confirmed  that  we are to judge  anyone within the Church, the body of Jesus Christ,  only..
 
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
 
(Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
 
(Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
(Luke 12:58 KJV)  When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison.
 
(1 Cor 5:12 KJV)  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
 
(1 Cor 6:2 KJV)  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
 
(1 Cor 6:3 KJV)  Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
 
(1 Cor 6:4 KJV)  If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
 
(1 Cor 6:5 KJV)  I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
 
(1 Cor 11:31 KJV)  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
 
(Heb 10:30 KJV)  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
 
(Rom 7:1 KJV)  Know ye not, brethren  how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
 
(Rom 7:2 KJV)  For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3    So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
 
(Heb 13:4 KJV)  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
 
“The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to the husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body; but the husband does. Likewise, the husband does not have authority over his own body; but the wife does” (Corinthians 7:3-5).
 
“Do not deprive one another except perhaps by agreement for a set time” (1 Cor 7:5). 
 
(Mal 2:14 KJV)  Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant. 15   And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth. 16  For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
 
TODD BENTLEY BE OBEDIENT TO GOD AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. GOD HATES DIVORCE , ADULTERY  AND EVEN HYPOCRITES TOO. AND DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE IS NOT PERMISSIBLE FOR TWO PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WHILE BOTH OF THEM ARE ALIVE.   SO “Todd Bentley”   swallow your pride, your own lusts, goals, false desires  but now also still  be an EXAMPLE TO THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST, love His church, his work, but now also still love your own wife.  AND WORK NOT ONLY TO BE A GOOD PREACHER BUT ALSO TO BE A GOOD HUSBAND, AND GOOD FATHER TO YOUR CHILDREN TOO .
 
see also
 
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/healing-todd-bentley-florda-lakeland-revival/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/the-problemed-family/
 http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/deliberate-unforgiveness/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-false-divorce-incentives/

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