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A Common Loser’s Strategy is asking others to Look at me! Notice me. See who I am! Pay attention to me. I am great! I AM THE GREATEST! Worship me, Praise me. Losers worship the false god of self. A Common Loser’s Strategy is also to Seek Revenge. Too often in life I have met too many a proud, perverse, dictatorial manager, administrators, actually slave drivers, who gets often upset. do pout that others that do not cower in fear, do not submit absolute reverence under their feet. They now have set themselves up for severe disappointment or heartache or failure in their lives. Years later I met some of these same people unemployed, even destitute and broke.. Many of us want to succeed but at what costs, at the false costs of others? For too many persons Power is intoxicating? Some bad persons they now get a little power and they falsely do think can be abusive with it. they get a little control and thy also get greatly manipulate. they tend to want all things done their way and they try to manipulate and maneuver others, to get these people to do the things they want done, for they are a bully, just like Haman who used his power falsely to bully the people around him. Dream on they are heading for a rude awakening. Their Bitterness is a wasted life.
Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought . . .Honor one another above yourselves . . . Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. (Romans 12:3,10,16)
(Ezek 6:13 KJV) Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols.
(Psa 35:13 KJV) But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.
And No idols includes one’s pastor, one’s denomination, religious club… Man’s best is too often just more hatred, murder, abuse…. 70 percent of today’s pastors are also crooked cause they are ungodly, unsaved hirelings, wolves in sheep clothing, not called by God pastors trying to make money, a career of the ministry.. this is unacceptable… that is why they too readily do lie, counsel divorce, slander, abuse others.
Now those who attacked the Jews were aware they would be resisted with force, the majority were probably Amalekites. A blind and devilish hatred for the Jews drove them to attack in an insane attempt to destroy them forever. And two facts about what took place speak loudly: (1) they were instructed to kill all their enemies–including women and children (Est.8:11, above), and (2) that the Jews universally rejected taking their possessions as the spoils of war leads me to believe God prompted them to obey completely what Saul and the army of Israel failed to do five hundred years earlier. Our God is totally Sovereign in the affairs of men and He quite literally allowed the Amalekites, souls living in spiritual darkness, a grace period before final judgment fell. The all-but complete slaughter by the army of Israel should have been a “wake-up call,” but they did not repent of their wickedness. And when opportunity presented itself, they eagerly sought to harm the apple of God’s eye–Israel (Deut.32:10; Zech.2:8). Amalek was Esau’s grandson. He was born to Timna the concubine of Eliphaz, Esau’s son. And Esau, if you will recall, had a twin brother Jacob who was born second, thereby missing out on the inheritance rights of the firstborn. So to make a long story short, Esau was a profane person (Heb.12:16) who could not care less about the spiritual headship responsibilities of his birthright. He literally sold that birthright to Jacob for a bowl of pottage (beans) and in doing so, demonstrated the darkness of his heart. Throwing away that blessed priviledge set in motion a chain of events that continues to this very day, because other descendants of Esau continue to have conflict with the offspring of Jacob (Israel).
(2 Chr 14:11 KJV) And Asa cried unto the LORD his God, and said, LORD, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O LORD our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O LORD, thou art our God; let not man prevail against thee. 12 So the LORD smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. 13 And Asa and the people that were with him pursued them unto Gerar: and the Ethiopians were overthrown, that they could not recover themselves; for they were destroyed before the LORD, and before his host; and they carried away very much spoil. 14 And they smote all the cities round about Gerar; for the fear of the LORD came upon them: and they spoiled all the cities; for there was exceeding much spoil in them. 15 They smote also the tents of cattle, and carried away sheep and camels in abundance, and returned to Jerusalem.
(Rev 22:18 KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
“Let it be clear: Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is wrong, But singling Israel out for selective condemnation and opprobrium — let alone denying its right to exist or seeking is destruction — is discriminatory and hateful, and not saying so is dishonest.” Ottawa Protocol
It should be evident to any Bible reader that everything the Jews did was not God sanctioned even as chosen ones not even the Wars between the Jews and/or the Babylonians, Romans:
The Jews’ Great Revolt against Rome in 66 C.E. led to one of the greatest catastrophes in Jewish life and, in retrospect, clearly also has been a terrible mistake.
During the summer of 70, the Romans breached the walls of Jerusalem, and initiated an orgy of violence and destruction. Shortly thereafter, they destroyed the Second Temple. This was the final and most devastating Roman blow against Judea. When people today speak of the almost two-thousand-year span of Jewish homelessness and exile, they are dating it from the failure of this revolt. http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/
Less any one gets lost, there are Good Jews, Good Arabs, good Americans, good Canadians and bad ones too. But it seems both Jews and Arabs are equally guilty of hate, unforgiveness, revenge, theft, murder, an eye for an eye approach so we can realy not support either side as being mainly in the right http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/
CANADA’S PRIME MINISTER’S STEPHEN HARPER’S ONE SIDED SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL OVER PALESTINE CLEARY TO GET THE JEWISH VOTES IS IMMORAL as well. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/what-the-canadian-conservatives-do-not-say-about-israel/
Face it basic life is dull, boring, monstrous often too, and so many people seek an edge, an escape, a simple alternative that others do not have supposedly that will let them live on a higher plane. For these often proud people the old fashion, simple gospel of the fact that God, who is Jesus Christ as well, has died personally for all your sins, and you can now be forgiven for all of your sins and next go to heaven if you continue to obey God and do his will is too difficult for them. They still want an easy, instant, quick serve McDonald Gospel. Too any cults now even too readily allow them such alternatives even the cults such as Jehovah Witnesses, Latter Days Saints, Seventh Day Adventist , New Age Movements and others now .
WHERE THERE IS A GENUINE THERE IS OFTEN ALSO A FALSE COUNTERFEIT.
How do you Know if the Spirit Talking to you is Good and not Evil? iS IT REALLY GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT OR THE DEVIL NOW? http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/does-god-speak-to-you/
Just like there is good and bad food, poisonous food that will kill you so there is also good and evil sprits, good spirits we tend to call angels AND bad spirits we tend to call demons BUT MANY PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE HERE YET TOO. “But the Spirit [the Holy Spirit] explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons…” (1 Tim. 4:1).
“…for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” (2 Cor. 11:14).
(1 John 4:1 KJV) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
(1 John 4:2 KJV) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
(1 John 4:3 KJV) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
(1 John 4:4 KJV) Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
PRIDE AND HE LACK OF LOVE TOWARDS OTHERS ARE A VERY CLEAR INDICATION OF A BAD SPIRIT
(1 John 4:11 KJV) Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
(1 John 4:15 KJV) Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
(1 John 4:16 KJV) And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Channeling used to be known as spiritualism WHICH IS DEFINITELY STILL A FORBIDDING, OCCULT PRACTICE!
(Deu 18:10 KJV) There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
(2 Ki 17:17 KJV) And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
(Jer 14:14 KJV) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
(Ezek 12:24 KJV) For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.
(Ezek 13:6 KJV) They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
(Ezek 13:7 KJV) Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
(Ezek 21:21 KJV) For the king of Babylon stood at the parting of the way, at the head of the two ways, to use divination: he made his arrows bright, he consulted with images, he looked in the liver.
(Acts 16:16 KJV) And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
In this practice OF channelling the person involved allows themselves to be taken over by entities which claim to be spirits of the dead, angels, deceased gurus or wise men, or even an alien beings. It is interesting to observe the consistent pattern that emerges in channeling from spirits, the deceased, and alien entities. Most messages speak of the following themes: reincarnation, and the teaching that humans are god’s. Jesus is usually seen a just a wise teacher who was one of many, and the Bible is usually regarded as untrustworthy. THAT ITSELF SHOULD TELL YOU HOW FALSE THESE SPIRITS NOW ARE. The lying entities and Satanists do not believe we need a Savior since they claim they do not believe there is such a thing as sin to be saved from. But why do the entities have so much hesitancy when talking about Jesus, or even to simply ignore Him?
Just cause you may still now deny that evil spirits do exist does not mean they do not exist. Loss of self control can still often lead to the possession of one’s soul by something, someone else. It is danger to surrender one’s will to anything, anyone else.
“They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes. When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an evil spirit came from the tombs to meet Him. This man lived in the tombs, and no-one could bind him any more, not even with a chain. For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No-one was strong enough to subdue him.” (Mark 5:1-4). “Some of the Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon possessed. They would say, “In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?” Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.” (Acts 19:13-16)
Finally in Canada the LIBERAL NEWS MEDIA IS NOW SERIOUSLY RECOGNIZING, NOTICING THE EFFECT OF THE RELIGIOUS PERSON’S VOTES.. it is kind of too late for them and others to do it too once they the relgious right had helped to form and to elect the Reform Party to eliminate next the Progressive Conservative federally and also had next helped to form, elect the new Conservative Party to to defeat the Liberals..
I have been detailing for decades the significant influence in Canada that the Christian priests and pastors have on their congregation, others. Few people had wanted to admit it at all.
So the Federal Liberals for their past support of gays, abortions are now paying a big price for it .. they are even broke.. no money.. and had lost too many supporters.. they reaped what they had sowed..
Liberal G Kennedy in Ontario is the choice of the religious right as well. Thanks to even ex PM Paul Martin who seems to be dreaming of a comeback too Canadian Catholics flee the Liberal Party in droves too.
“Catholics flee Liberals in droves Catholics have always voted Liberal, until recently As Canada’s once-mighty Liberals consider their future, they might be advised to visit a local church-and not just to pray for the party. The religious vote, it seems, played a major role in their recent election defeat. According to new data from Angus Reid Strategies provided exclusively to Maclean’s, Catholics-who make up 44 per cent of Canada’s population and have preferred the Liberals for decades-are flocking to the Conservatives. Catholic voters back parties that are community-minded, says Andrew Grenville, Angus Reid’s chief research officer. And in 2006, for the first time, they shifted their support to the Tories. This year’s results confirm the trend: outside Quebec, 49 per cent of Catholics who attend church weekly voted Conservative, compared to just 38 per cent in 2004. Within Quebec, where upwards of 80 per cent of the population identifies as Catholic, the switch away from the Liberals is even more striking. In 2008, just 22 per cent of Quebec Catholics voted Liberal, compared to 56 per cent in 2004. “Looks like we have a new status quo,” Grenville says. It’s not just Catholics who’ve had a change of heart. Protestants, who make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties, but over the last four years, there’s been a big shift toward the Tories. In 2008, 64 per cent of church-going Protestants outside of Quebec chose the Conservatives, compared to 51 per cent in 2004. Voters who attend so-called conservative churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite, and Stephen Harper’s own Christian and Missionary Alliance) prefer the Tories in even greater numbers: a whopping three-quarters of them voted Conservative this year. What does it mean? “The Liberals have alienated their base, which shows how weak their support really is,” Grenville says, adding that he isn’t very optimistic about the party’s immediate future. “I can’t see Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff appealing to that vote either, which is in part why their prospects aren’t too bright.”
And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/
PS Only 4 persons had showed up to pray against the then Prime Minister Paul Martin MP and he Paul Martin unexpectedly, unbelievably shortly after that had lost his office of Prime Minister, and why did so many people show up in the first place? God only needed 2 persons to agree in prayer on this in Jesus name and he would have acted upon it as well. The prayer meetings had fizzled out? you now got to be joking.. they had did their job.
3. THE DAY OF THE LORD. Another great example of how the promises of God are so very different to specific one-off predictions is in the Bible approach to The Day of the Lord. The prophecy of Amos (Amos 5:18-20), finds many, many fulfillments, all perfectly valid! Firstly, in the 586 BC fall of Jerusalem (Ezekiel 13:5; Lamentations 1:12, 2:1,22), in the ministry of John the Baptist (Mark 1:2; Malachi 3:1-2), in the ministry of Jesus (Luke 4:16-21; Isaiah 61:1-2), in the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost (Acts 2:16-21; Joel 2:28-32), in the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 (Matthew 24:2-15), and certainly in the second coming of Christ (2 Peter 3:12; Rev 16:14). A few would certainly add to this list; many Jews saw the holocaust of the Second World War as their own ‘Day of the Lord’
A closer examination of Christ’s words shows that they were not all fulfilled, indeed could not have been fulfilled, at that time. He warned that the time leading up to His return “will be a time of great distress; there has never been such a time from the beginning of the world until now, and will never be again. If that time of troubles were not cut short, no living thing could survive; but for the sake of God’s chosen it will be cut short” (verses 21-22, New English Bible).
Jesus Christ knew His Church next would have much work to do: “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come” (verse 14). The apostles would begin that work. Christ said that, after receiving the Holy Spirit, they would “be witnesses to [Him] in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth” (Acts 1:8).
Many more books of the Bible—comprising what we call the New Testament—would be written. Many more people would hear the gospel of the Kingdom of God, which Jesus Christ taught. Many more will yet hear that same message!
Then and only then, when the time is right in God’s great plan, will He send His Son in power and glory to establish the Kingdom of God on earth. Hundreds of verses throughout the Bible proclaim that incredible truth.
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away,” said Jesus (Matthew 24:35). Every word of Jesus Christ’s prophecy will ultimately be fulfilled.
Jesus now also began His explanation of events to come by cautioning, “Take heed that no one deceives you” (Matthew 24:4). This first, warning statement did not address the disciples’ question directly. “For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ ” He continued, “and will deceive many” (verse 5). This would not be an isolated or rare occurrence, He warned. Many would come, using His name and claiming to represent Him, and these false teachers would “deceive many.” Here and later in the prophecy He was warning of the coming of false prophets—false religious teachers. “Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many” (verse 11).
Ironically some of those persons claiming to be the true Bible prophecy experts are now false themselves undeniably such as even the dispensationalists now too
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Hospitals in Canada are mainly still here for the good care, safety, health of the patients. But this is not happening too often. For example- All the hospitals must exercise “the greatest control over all aspects of the work over all of the staff, doctors, nurses, technicians included . But undeniably in Quebec too too many nursing employees were, are working for private agencies outside the hospital, so a full accountability, control is clearly lacking. Even in Quebec now there still is a growing reliance by hospitals, old age homes, on using private nursing agencies. Bad nurses and bad doctors rarely face any negative personal consequences. The gravy trains have to be discontinued.
The Quebec government itself now for decades is soft on crime and is wrongfully reluctant to punish any of the bad guys cause they would likely have to start also with themselves. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/positive-changes-need-to-start-at-the-top/
Now that the election is over, and Barack Obama has been elected as the 44th President… are we still going to hear about Sarah Palin? Or will her name become obsolete? After elections, the opponent that loses usually disappears within a week after the election… but this is Sarah Palin we’re talking about…
75 percent of evenagelcials still did not vote for Obama, or 49 percent of the voting US population..
“The media is already harping on the fact that 60 percent of voters expressed doubts about Sarah Palin being ready to take over as President should something happen to John McCain.
But if you study the exit polls carefully, there is no evidence that this fact actually influenced the vote.
When people were asked if Palin’s presence on the ticket was an important factor in their decision, 60 percent answered yes, 33 percent no. But of the 60 percent that said yes, 56 percent ended up voting McCain versus 43 percent Obama.
On the other hand, of the 33 percent that said no, only 33 percent voted McCain versus 64 percent Obama.
What does this mean? People who thought Palin’s presence on the ticket was important were more likely to vote McCain by a significant margin. So the media is allowing their bias to influence the interpretation of the data.
You can look even closer than that. Palin was picked specifically to influence a few key demographics for the Republicans – women, independents, white evangelicals and gun owners:
– White women voted McCain/Palin 53-46. That’s within the margin of error for how Bush/Cheney score with the same group in 2004, 55-44.
– White independents voted McCain/Palin 49-47. There are no comparable data on this group for 2004, but we do know that independents went for Kerry 49-48 in 2004, and 52-44 for Obama this year. It’s safe to conclude that the swing to Obama in this category was caused by non-white independents voting overwhelmingly for the Democratic ticket.
– White evangelical/born again cCristians voted McCain/Palin 74-24 in 2008, which is slightly lower than the 78-21 breakdown in 2004. But their share of the total vote was larger this time than last time (26 percent in 2008 versus 23 percent in 2004), so on balance the white evangelical/born again contribution to the Republican vote was probably about the same size as it was in 2004.
– Gun owners voted for McCain/Palin in the same numbers they voted for Bush/Cheney last time round: 62-37 in 2008 versus 63-36 in 204
So, in those four major target groups, Palin delivered the goods for the McCain campaign. These are groups that were skeptical about McCain before Palin joined the ticket.
In all four categories, the McCain/Palin share of the vote was virtually identical to the Bush/Cheney share in 2004. That seemed impossible before Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin will be a force to be reckoned with over the next four years.”
She has a son in Iraq, a daughter pregnant and an infant with Down Syndrome.
She has her hand’s full.
But she has made it clear that this is not the last we will see of Sarah Palin.
“I’m not doing this for naught,” Palin said last week, when asked if all the mudslinging in the campaign made her long for a return to the more sedate politics of Alaska, where she is governor.
After McCain’s stinging loss, Palin, 44, has emerged as one of the strongest brands the Republicans have got.
As one of the most recognisable figures in a party searching for direction and new leadership, Palin’s future role will be a major theme when Republican heavyweights weigh up strategies for the 2010 mid-term congressional elections.
“She definitely is going to be the most popular Republican in this country when this thing is over,” Republican strategist Ed Rollins, and former political director to president Ronald Reagan, told CNN before the election.
And the carefully coiffed conservative Christian who cast herself as a maverick, a reformer and an anti-corruption star, has clearly indicated the 2008 run wasn’t an end-all to her national political ambitions.
“I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we’ve taken, that would bring this whole” endeavour to nothing, Palin told ABC last week.
In the last pre-election episode of NBC’s Saturday Night Live, comedienne Tina Fey, in her much lauded role impersonating Palin, made a show of “going rogue” from the McCain campaign talking points by trying to hawk “Palin 2012” t-shirts.
At Republican rallies in recent weeks supporters too have been seen displaying “Palin 2012″ shirts and banners.
There has been talk in Hollywood of Sarah Palin getting a talk show; talk in Washington of Sarah Palin as the best fundraiser the Republicans have; talk in Alaska of Sarah Palin running for the Senate.
There is a world of options in front of Sarah Palin. She is the star of the Republican Conservative base and if you think she will stay in Alaska for long – you’re wrong.”
if you think the evangelicals have died for long – you’re wrong
The Rise of the Religious Left. But clearly Obama still did not get the evangelical votes.
Ten Faith Factors for Election Night
2. Will Palin Turn Out the “Religious Right”? — By picking Sarah Palin, John McCain gambled that she’d be able to rev up the evangelical “base.” Even as her popularity has fallen generally, evangelicals still love her (some even believing she was sent to battle the anti-Christ.) Assuming most conservative evangelicals vote for McCain, the second question is: how many will show up? Point of reference: white evangelicals accounted for 23% of the electorate in 2004.
3. Do Midwestern Evangelicals Split With Their Brethren? — Recent polls have showed Obama trailing badly among evangelicals in Florida and Colorado but doing quite well with them in Michigan, Ohio and
Pennsylvania. If he succeeds there, he may have tapped into regional differences in style, theology and politics and launch a new era in faith-and-politics punditry, in which we no longer talk about “the evangelical vote” as a geographically uniform phenomenon.4. Will Catholics Ignore Their Bishops? – The overall Catholic vote has gone with the popular vote winner every election since 1968. Catholic Bishops have been urging Catholic voters to vote for pro-life candidates but a majority of Catholic voters are now pro-choice so it remains to be seen what influence the church will have. (Obama is also winning with the 100-year-old-nuns bloc) Another factor in Obama’s favor: a higher percentage of the Catholic vote will be Latino this year. Last election, George W. Bush won the Catholic 52%-46%.
5. Can Obama Finally Bowl a Strike With Skeptical White Catholics? – During the primaries, Obama did poorly with white Catholics, often working class ethnics or their offspring. Remember his feeble attempt to curry favor through bowling? They tend to be culturally conservative and haven’t voted for a Democrat since 1996. On the other hand, they’re especially concerned about the economy this year, and Joe Biden has been trying to bond with them as a fellow “cultural Catholics.” Point of reference: In 2004, Bush won 56% of white Catholics, Kerry 43%.
6. Will Whitebread Protestants Back the Black Guy? – Recent polls show Democrats gaining with a group that had leaned Republican for most of the past few decades – Mainline Protestants. It appears that while Sarah Palin energized evangelicals, she may have alienated some Mainliners. In 2004, they went for President George W. Bush 54%-46%.
7. Will Latino Protestants Vote Their Values or the Pocketbook? – One positive trend for Obama will likely be the shift of Latinos from the Republican side, where they resided in 2004, to the Democrats. The hidden religious story: most of the shift is driven by Latino Protestants. Many are evangelical and liked Bush’s Christian faith and his conservative positions on social issues (gay marriage, abortion) but have shifted to Obama because of the economy and concerns about immigration.
8. How Will the Kinda-Sorta Religious Vote? – In recent elections, the most religious you were, the more likely you were to vote Republican. This is known as the God Gap, which will still certainly exist. But watch for two things: among weekly churchoers how big is McCain’s margin? Bush won that group 61%-39% Second, Kerry last time beat Bush among more occasional churchgoers 53%-47%. Will Obama increase that margin?
9. Will Jews Schlep to Republican Side? – This only really matters in
Florida, and even there it doesn’t matter as much as you’d think (Jews made up 5% of the electorate there in 2004). Early polls had Obama struggling among Jews – in part because of fears about his former church’s connections to Louis Farrakhan — but more recently he’s caught up, possibly because Jews fear that Sarah Palin is an extreme evangelical. Or possibly the Sarah Silverman factor. Jews reportedly went about 75%-25% for Kerry.10. Will the GOP Become the ROP? – Will Republicans become the Religiously Oriented Party? In 2004, white evangelicals made up 36% of Bush voters.
Will that go up or down? If it becomes an even more dominant force within the party, how will that shape either the way McCain governs if he wins or, if he loses, how the Republicans re-invent themselves.
Carla Hinton Religion Editor http://blog.newsok.com/religionandvalues/2008/10/31/389
so what do you say about the faith factor…
Though the economy clearly was the defining issue of the election, Obama forged a new coalition by luring millions of religious left voters who had avoided Democrats in recent years.
He narrowed the God Gap. Bush beat Kerry among weekly church-goers by 61%-39%. McCain is beating Obama 54%-44% Most of that gain appears to have come from Protestants rather than Catholics
He won Catholics back. Early exit polls indicate he won 54% of the Catholic vote compared to 45% for John McCain. George W. Bush won the Catholic vote 52%-46%. Most of those gains came from Catholics who don’t attend mass weekly.
He also improved among white Catholics, according to the early exit polls. Bush got 56%-43% As of now, McCain lead by just 51%-49% This was despite an aggressive push by more than 50 Bishops to encourage Catholics to focus on abortion as the central issue.
He man real gainst among Evangelicals. Evangelicals and Born Again Christians made up a greater portion of the electorate this year than last election but that didn’t all accrue to McCain’s benefit, as predict. Obama improved slightly on a national level, getting 25% compared to Kerry’s 21%
But far more important, he made significant progress in the pivotal rustbelt states that won him the election. For instance, evangelicals flooded the polls in Ohio and Obama significantly improved on Kerry’s showing.
He attracted more Mainline Protestants — Though shifting toward the center in recent years, mainline Protestants — once a core of the Republican party — – still went for the Republicans in 2004. The exit polls didn’t ask specifically about mainline Protestants but it appears Obama improved slightly with this group.
He energized the lightly religious. Though secular voters already voted Democratic, they did so by an even bigger margin this year. Even more important, a quarter of the electorate says they go to worship services but only a few times a year. Kerry won that group with 54%-45%. Obama won 61%-38%