The Real Thing

 
(1 Chr 16:20 KJV)  And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21  He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22  Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. 23  Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; show forth from day to day his salvation. 24  Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations. 25  For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised: he also is to be feared above all gods. 26  For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 27  Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place. 28  Give unto the LORD, ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD glory and strength. 29  Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. 30  Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. 31  Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigneth. 32  Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. 33  Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he cometh to judge the earth. 34  O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. 35  And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us  together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise. 36  Blessed be the LORD God of Israel for ever and ever. And all the people said, Amen, and praised the LORD.
 
Now the majority of Pentecostals tend to define Jesus Christ as the Messiah, Savior, Baptizer of the  Holy Spirit, Healer, Deliverer, Coming King, Lord  and they also do believe in the whole Bible as the further revealed word of God by which we measure all truths now by too, they also do believe in the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ and in His second coming, return to earth for His own,  … they also do tend to believe in the existance of Heaven, Hell, the need of giving,  Servanthood, of adult Baptism, being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit now too. They also do believe in the need for continous prayer and daily Bible readings, Bible devotionals.
 
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40  Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;
 
 (Psa 37:23 KJV)  The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way. 24  Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand. 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
 
One of the most absurd statements that I have heard in the clearly ignorant fundamental Baptist, Plymouth Brethren  churches, was that Pentecostals are not Christians, and/or they are demon possessed, falsely even emotional persons, they supposedly are even a false cult, false sect  all rather spoken by narrow minded  fundamentalists persons who clearly themselves do not accept the Bible literally.
 
For the Fundamentals themselves now too often and falsely they pick and chose the parts of the Bible  they want to believe in, and distort the other parts too.  They wrongfully tend too often too not believe in the existence of the gift of Apostles, Prophets- elders, existence today as well, or in the gift healing, all of the 9 and more supernatural gifts of the Holy sprit, nor  do they the Fundamentalists too often  believe in emotionally   praising  the Lord, with real joy,  actively. And the Fundamentalists they  certainly have changed the role of the Church deacons from that which was defined in the New Testament, in the  book of Acts now too, selected and anointed persons who were to help and look after the poor people in the church.  
 
I have been a Pentecostal Christian for 3 decades and someone has yet to show me what is so unChristian with my faith from the Bible.  And for the two previous decades that I was Baptist I certainly saw a lot of liars, abusers, hypocrites, adulterers, idol worshippers, non practicing Christians too  in the Baptist, Brethren  faith now too.
 

I find it ironical that some people are so desperate to poof that all Pentecostals are false they even refer to Pentecostal preachers for support such as (1) Spiritual Authority: The Word And The Testimony by A.W. Tozer, 1950, and others too. 

 “Many Pentecostals will defend their experience by simply saying “it must be so because it is my experience”. This is a false comment by a false person now too. For I know whom I have believed in and he will raise me alive in the last day  too.

 Many of these false pentecostals bashers have to lie, distort, use straw, false arguements, and not the Bible itself to prove their points clearly now too. As we can all easily see now too. Why? because they firstly themslves really do not know the world of God too often, pastors included.. they mostly believe what other men have told them mostly.
 

I have met pretenders, imposters in all churches, in all of the denominations, even in the Baptist, Brethren churches  now too.  Don’t judge the whole church by the few..  

 

Now I do  agree that there are some, a very small few, false Pentecostal break away minority groups (such as United Pentecostal church  ), and I also do undeniably agree that  the majority of the Christian Missionary Alliance church members , adherents are non Christians, for they are mere lip serving Christians only for they really do differ  from the main Pentecostal churches when they  had broken away from them.  Now I know very clearly there are many Canadians who rightfully do not believe that our Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper , a Christian Missionary alliance church member now  is a Christian, and neither do I .  Do see http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/popular-christian-based-readinsg-resources/
  
 Also for certainty neither Mormons, nor Jehovah witnesses they are a sect, a cult and are not all also  real Christians even if they profess to be or think they are now too. I also do have rightfully serious doubts of the salvation of many Messianic Jewish believers who have not made Jesus Lord of their life and have not forsaken all, their culture now included,  to follow after Jesus Christ
 
Luke 18:28 And Peter said, See, we have left our own [things–home, family, and business] and have followed You. 29 And He said to them, I say to you truly, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 Who will not receive in return many times more in this world and, in the coming age, eternal life.
 
and not by a long shot would I agree that any Dispensationalists is a bonfied Christian now as well..    

 

(1Jn 1:4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

(1Jn 1:5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

(1Jn 1:6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

(1Jn 1:7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin

He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
PSALM 91
 
The secret place is not a cave, physical fortress, or city of refuge somewhere that the Lord has set apart for us as some caring ruler may dedicate for that purpose. It is not even His palace but the secret place is none other than His Own Presence. He Himself is my refuge and fortress!

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  1. Pentecostal Church Report Warns of False Prophets

    A major Pentecostal denomination released a paper Tuesday stating the church’s position on the apostolic movement that included a warning on false prophets.

    The International Pentecostal Holiness Church (IPHC), a 108-year-old traditional Pentecostal denomination with about 4.2 million members in 95 countries, states its commitment to the Word and the leadership of the Holy Spirit in its 21-page “Apostolic Biblical Statement and Practical Guidelines.”

    “God is moving in these days with an emphasis on the apostolic anointing and the prophetic,” said Presiding Bishop James D. Leggett, in a statement. “The Apostolic Position Paper recognizes and provides for the exercising of apostolic leadership. Yet it gives a word of caution about false prophets. The balanced approach is good for the church today.”

    The document covers three levels of the apostolic: Jesus Christ, the foremost apostle; the twelve apostles, the foundational apostles; and functional apostles, who functioned both in the scriptures and in the church today.

    The role of apostles is to “plant the gospel in every culture worldwide” and to do it on the “base built by Jesus Christ, the foremost Apostle, and His foundational apostles,” the document stated.

    “We recognize the ministry of functional apostles and bishops in church history as having a close resemblance,” the paper read. “We also recognize that false apostles appeared in the apostolic church as well as in the church history, and that we must remain alert to the continuing danger of these emissaries of Satan.”

    Pentecostalism is one of the fastest growing segments of global Christianity with at least 500 million adherents worldwide. But along with its successful growth has come problems of false teachers who vow miraculous healing, promises of pending fortune in exchange for church donations that are used for their own personal wealth.

    Many mainline Christian leaders in Africa have denounced false prophets who claim to be anointed Pentecostal preachers.

    In the section titled, “Recognizing True and False Apostles,” the document states that there are false apostles, or people who are not appointed by God but rather “carnal men [who] usurped the role for their own glory.”

    To distinguish true and false apostles, the document gave a list of characteristics of a true apostle that includes: ministers with total faithfulness to the writings and teachings of the foundational apostles; accept personal responsibility for the Lord’s Great Commission, even at great cost to themselves; continue to serve even when no one confers on them a title or recognizes their role; and are free from the love of money.

    “The Apostolic Position Paper presents a sound Biblical foundation for both the historical and present day Apostolic Ministry,” said Rev. Ed Wood, Chairman of the Apostolic Commission. “The paper is the result of the International Pentecostal Holiness seeking to be Biblically based in its position regarding the current apostolic movement.”

    In 2005, the denomination’s General Executive Board, at the request of the General Conference delegates, commissioned seven denominational scholars and theologians to conduct a biblical/historical study of the role of apostle in the church today. The board also invited a representative from each of the denomination’s 28 regional offices to participate.

    The document was presented to the General Board of Administration, the highest governing body between General Conference sessions, and approved by the board on Oct. 30, 2007, with minor changes.

    The document also includes practical guidelines for apostolic ministries and other current theological issues in the IPHC.

    IPHC is a charter member of the National Association of Evangelicals, the Pentecostal World Conference, and was instrumental in creating the Pentecostal & Charismatic Churches of North America.

    http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080423/pentecostal-church-report-warns-of-false-prophets.htm

  2. Exercising our spiritual senses to keep clear from the bondage of Legalism

    The Bible teaches us to avoid two extremes in the world of religious experience: Liberalism and Legalism. We have addressed the problem of liberalism in other articles on this site. In short, liberalism teaches that you can have a loose view on God’s holiness and Biblical standards for dress, conversation, associations etc. Loose interpretation then, characterizes the way the Liberal person views Scripture. It is therefore, sinful.

    Now, there is an equally disturbing practice called legalism in the churches. Legalism teaches that there are a list of do’s and don’ts which one must live by, which are not at all taught or listed in the Bible. It is a subtle way of expressing religious pride and making a person a slave to a religious leader or group’s own rules and regulations.

    For example:

    You cannot wear any or some kinds of jewelry (gold, silver etc.)

    You cannot have flowers to decorate your hair.

    You cannot be baptized or take communion if you are engaged in the above.

    You cannot come to church without wearing white.

    You cannot possibly be saved unless you speak in tongues.

    You cannot possibly be spiritual and be materially blessed.

    You cannot play or listen to Christian contemporary music and be accepted with God.

    You cannot play sports and be a Christian.

    You can’t take medicine and be a person of proper faith.

    You cannot, you cannot, you cannot!

    Men and women in the churches have sought to make it “easier”, for folk to keep within the boundaries of Biblical teaching by imposing man-made laws on the people. Never mind that many of the doctrines are themselves unbiblical!

    As you read this article, please do bear in mind that, motive is the all-important thing here! Why do we wear this or that? Do we do it to attract others? To show off? To subtly make ourselves feel like we have more worth if we do certain external things?

    Jewelry is mentioned many times in the Bible. The only time it is prohibited is if it is combined with idolatrous practices or if it is a snare in any way to the owner. One needs to be cautioned that one does not become attached to it so much that they cannot part with it if God commands it. But then, that should be true of everything else as well as we serve God and make Him always first in our lives. As far as the passages in 1 Timothy 2 and 1Peter 3 about jewelry and expensive clothes and elaborate hair arrangements, the spirit of the passages prohibit extravagant and proud display of wealth and pride. It specifically mentions that these external adornments are not what constitute godliness or a person’s real worth before God. It is the inner man walking in meekness and godliness that gives a person true worth in God’s sight. God is merely cautioning against His children getting the two mixed up and living like the world with material attachments, self-pride, with showing off and with not sharing with those in need.

    1 Timothy 6:5-6 states, “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. But godliness with contentment is great gain.”

    Also, external prosperity, money or wealth does not necessarily mean God’s blessing is on the possessor if they don’t have or exhibit the inner virtues mentioned in the Word. To be sure, gold does not lead to godliness. Yes, there are many who blindly and faithfully follow the false teaching of their church by not wearing gold and yet are quite comfortable and unashamed at being proud, unbelieving, foolish, mischievious, unclean gossipers! The things they laugh at, the choices they make in daily life readily reflect this fact.

    1Pe 3:3 – 4 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

    1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

    1Ti 2:9 -10 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

    But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

    By the same token, possessing or wearing gold does not necessarily hinder godliness. This is the error of legalism on this subject of wearing jewelry. Hindering a person’s baptism based on whether or not they wear jewels is utterly wrong!

    In the Old Testament and in Revelation we see that God uses gold and silver and many precious stones to beautify Israel and the New Jerusalem.

    Let us forever get this truth into our minds and hearts:

    Gold, silver, and other precious stones are not evil but good!

    Whether we use them rightly with a pure heart or not is what really is at stake here. Again, what is the motive?

    The same goes for flowers as part of decorating oneself. Make up items are not necessarily sinful either. One cannot just judge someone as being less spiritual or carnal because they use make up or an excessive amount of it, whereas the person casting the judgement uses less or none of it. Let God be the Judge. If you can use this and other items without overdoing it or becoming proud or looking down on others who don’t or can’t do the same for financial reasons or whatever, then you are free to do what you like. No man has the right to judge you wrongly or prohibit these things. No church has the authority to rob you of the Christian liberty God has given you. The Bible teaches modesty and meekness in the use of all things. That is sufficient teaching to direct us in proper attire and attitude.

    The only other consideration left is, whether I am hurting a weaker brother who cannot take the truth that these are uses of Christian liberty. (1 Cor.10-23-33)

    In certain cases, we might have to change our practices temporarily to prevent a weaker believer from getting, “wounded” or from having a troubled conscience (albeit a misinformed conscience). All we need do is pray to the Lord and He will direct us in such circumstances also.

    We need not change our whole lifestyle based on others judgments, if they are not biblical. However, here is a case in point with reference to the above:

    If I am ministering among poor folk, then I may be led of the Spirit and by my conscience to put the jewelry I may be wearing off just to prevent the poor ones who don’t have these things from being distracted or to prevent unnecessary speculation on my motives by the poor folk. This is not an absolute rule but something to consider, that’s all.

    Other than these type of things where the Lord might have us do something temporarily for another’s sake, then we are not at all sinning if we wear jewelry or flowers or whatever so long as it is decent and in order.

    Caution: We must never judge others who have access to jewelry, make-up etc. but who have decided based on a leading from God to forsake them. Perhaps, this has happened because in previous times they had treated such things as idols (just like God may touch anything that we treat as an idol, not necessarily because the thing is evil).

    As far as some extreme, “Pentecostal” views on what constitutes true salvation, (which are really not true Pentecostalism as per the Bible) we must not simply and blindly subscribe to a cultic mentality. It is clear in the Book of Acts and all throughout the Word that a person can be saved and not necessarily speak in tongues. Tongues, is an additional blessing or resource we have as a gift of the Spirit of God.

    **Let us say here that we ought to always avail ourselves of all of God’s blessing and provision for us paid for by the Precious Blood of Christ. We would be short-changing ourselves and denying certain Scriptures if we didn’t. We ought be filled with the Spirit of God. This is God’s Will for us.

    As far as medicine is concerned, it is utterly unbiblical to judge someone as, “unfaithful” or “weak” because they use it when they are sick. It is utterly an abomination to think oneself to be superior to all others just because they have endured an illness or would rather die without taking medicine. We have written an article entitled, “False Teaching Amongst Some Churches” which deals in more detail with regards to this topic.

    A lot more can be said on this issue of Legalism in the Church but suffice it to allow this Biblical principle to guide us always:

    God has meant for us to serve Him and enjoy Him and all of His provisions while walking in the fear of the Lord. As long as what we do does not lead to sin, as long as it is not prohibited in the Word by explicit declaration or in an implicit sense or by principle, then we are free to do what we like.

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    Now, if you are in bondage to false, man-made doctrine or have taught the same, you need not give up hope! God is merciful when we confess our foolishness or ignorance to Him.

    Ask God for forgiveness for following man instead of Him. Repent and enjoy the freedom He has given you while not indulging in anything that leads to idolatry.

    Remember the chief thing is not to judge oneself or others (especially others!) by external things or man’s standards, for God looks on the heart while man looks on the outward things. (1 Samuel 16:7)

    If one is in fact, always preoccupied with how they look on the outside in any area, then God can and will speak to them as they follow Him faithfully. However, no man must play another man’s conscience by imposing unbiblical doctrine on him.

    In conclusion:

    Remember, in all criticism and judgment, Love is the chief thing.
    Honesty and humility in the heart is the main issue.
    To have purity of heart is of paramount importance.
    Motive is all-important, as far as why we like to do a certain thing.

    (1 Cor. 13, Titus 2:7, 1 Pet 5:5)

    For the Freedom in the Spirit bought by the
    Precious Blood of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior,

    Brothers and sisters at comprehensivechristian.com

  3. The resurrection of Jesus Christ was not only witnessed by the Apostles, it was also written done by one of them, apostle Luke too, the account we can all read today in the Bible but God on top of that now has given his holy spirit as a witness of this reality to all those who truly believe him too

    Acts 1:1 IN THE former account [which I prepared], O Theophilus, I made [a continuous report] dealing with all the things which Jesus began to do and to teach
    Acts 1:3 To them also He showed Himself alive after His passion (His suffering in the garden and on the cross) by [a series of] many convincing demonstrations [unquestionable evidences and infallible proofs], appearing to them during forty days and talking [to them] about the things of the kingdom of God.
    Acts 1:4 And while being in their company {and} eating with them, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem but to wait for what the Father had promised, Of which [He said] you have heard Me speak.
    Acts 1:5 For John baptized with water, but not many days from now you shall be baptized with (placed in, introduced into) the Holy Spirit.
    Acts 1:6 So when they were assembled, they asked Him, Lord, is this the time when You will reestablish the kingdom {and} restore it to Israel?
    Acts 1:7 He said to them, It is not for you to become acquainted with {and} know what time brings [the things and events of time and their definite periods] or fixed years and seasons (their critical niche in time), which the Father has appointed (fixed and reserved) by His own choice {and} authority {and} personal power.
    Acts 1:8 But you shall receive power (ability, efficiency, and might) when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you shall be My witnesses in Jerusalem and all Judea and Samaria and to the ends (the very bounds) of the earth.

    Acts 2:3 And there appeared to them tongues resembling fire, which were separated {and} distributed and which settled on each one of them.

    Acts 2:16 But this is [the beginning of] what was spoken through the prophet Joel:
    Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, God declares, that I will pour out of My Spirit upon all mankind, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy [telling forth the divine counsels] and your young men shall see visions (divinely granted appearances), and your old men shall dream [divinely suggested] dreams.
    Acts 2:18 Yes, and on My menservants also and on My maidservants in those days I will pour out of My Spirit, and they shall prophesy [telling forth the divine counsels and predicting future events pertaining especially to God’s kingdom].

    Acts 2:21 And it shall be that whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [invoking, adoring, and worshiping the Lord–Christ] shall be saved.

    Acts 2:38 And Peter answered them, Repent (change your views and purpose to accept the will of God in your inner selves instead of rejecting it) and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of {and} release from your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
    Acts 2:39 For the promise [of the Holy Spirit] is to {and} for you and your children, and to {and} for all that are far away, [even] to {and} for as many as the Lord our God invites {and} bids to come to Himself.

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