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Mat  5:22 KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother  without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall  say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but  whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

James 4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not  hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? :2 Ye lust, and  have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and  war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3 Ye ask, and receive not,  because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. 4 Ye  adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the  world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the  world is the enemy of God. 5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in  vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 6 But he giveth  more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth  grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the  devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw  nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye  double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be  turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10 Humble yourselves in  the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

I was really  saddened to note that too many of the abuses I have witnessed were done  by bad , greedy people trying to steal , them trying to get other  people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting it under  false pretenses. The love of more money is still the basis of what many  of the wrong doings is, was all about..

(1 Tim 6:6 KJV) But godliness with contentment is great gain.

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be  not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God,  who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

(Psa 37:16 KJV) A  little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many  wicked. 17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD  upholdeth the righteous.

Did you know that sibling rivalry, abuse is one of the most common forms of family violence? Siblings will use physical violence because they have learned it from their parents, a bad mother or a bad father,  or other adults. In fact, one study found that 76% of the children who were repeatedly abused by their parents also abused their siblings.. and their spouse next too

Everyone  needs to set boundaries on what is acceptable behavior. No verbal abuses, no bullying, no lying, no foul languages, no hitting or other violence should be allowed. Another step parents can take to prevent abuse between siblings is to model their own respectful behavior in your family. Children learn how to interact with others by observing them.
 
Do a check-up on your family and others  this week:
     Do you treat your children. others respectfully?
     Do your children treat each other respectfully?
     Are your children hitting each other when conflicts occur?
     Do you have Home, office, internet rules in place for acceptable behavior?
 
You may need to call a family meeting to work out problem-solving strategies before rough housing turns to abuse, unacceptable violence
 
http://unlforfamilies.unl.edu/
 
Info on Sibling rivalry, young offenders, gangs, mafia, war

(Psalm 133:1 KJV)  Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

Sibling rivalry is a type of sinful, selfish competition or animosity among brothers and sisters, blood-related or not..  the sibling bond is often complicated and is influenced by factors such as parental treatment, birth order, personality, and people and experiences outside the family. Sibling rivalry is particularly intense when children are very close in age and of the same gender, or where one child is intellectually gifted, or one child has received or attains  a bigger inheritance, earning, position, status in life. Adolescents fight for the same reasons younger children fight,  Fighting with siblings as a way to get attention, power  may increase in adolescence. Events even such as a strained marriage may  drive them seriously  apart. Sibling Rivalry in the Bible – sample cases: Cain and Abel, Esau and Jacob, and Joseph and his brothers., Leah and Rachel, and today’s counterpart is the conflicts between the Arabs and the Jews, gangs, Mafia

 
(Prov 15:1 KJV)  A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

What about Bullying?
When any verbal remarks becomes hurtful, unkind to others, and too constant, it now has crossed the line of acceptance, decency and it does needs to stop, to be corrected. Bullying is intentional tormenting in physical, verbal, or psychological ways. It can range from hitting, shoving, name-calling, threats, and mocking to extorting money and one’s possessions. Some persons  bully by shunning others and spreading false rumors about them. Others use email, chat rooms, instant messages, social networking websites, and text messages to taunt others or try hurt their feelings.  It’s important to take bullying seriously for effects can be serious and affect ones’ sense of self-worth and future relationships. In severe cases, bullying has contributed to tragedies, such as school shootings.Why Do some persons Bully? They  bully for a variety of reasons. Sometimes they bully because they need a victim  to try to falsely, selfishly, sinfully   make themselves feel more important, popular, or in control. Often they do bully, torment others because that’s the way they’ve been treated in the past too. They even may think their behavior is normal because they come from families or other settings where everyone regularly gets angry, shouts, or calls others names.

Take it seriously also if you even  hear that the bullying will get worse if the bully finds out that your child has  told others. Many states have bullying laws and policies.   if you have serious concerns about your child’s safety, you may need to contact legal authorities. Do not hesitate to expose it too. Verbal abuse  unstopped, unchecked unrestrained often next turns to physical abuse, wrongful violence.Why Do They even  Hate Each Other? In this society, too many people have the false expectation that they will love others and thus next will get along well with everyone, even in  in their family, Church, community, work. They always expect to feel positive toward their parents, brothers, sisters, spouse and children. This is unrealistic  Most people, themselves however, have at least some times when they don’t feel very loving toward   others. Some persons are even born  really bad, or have become really bad persons now too.

Relationships often can be are close, both emotionally and physically, and thus even very intense.  Because they are   closer at home, communities, church too, the related  members have a greater power than anyone else to make other members feel angry, sad, confused — and loving. This is as true for children and adolescents as it is for adults.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/coping-effectively/

Many years ago some one had said that  most marriage problems, divorce are over the issue of money.. some are,  but many marriages break down are due to uncontrolled lusts of the  flesh, and unforgiveness as well.. But I would agree that many problems  amongst so called Christians, including church fights are often over  over money, the control over it, and many professing Christians depart  from the faith over the false lust for more money and what money can buy  for them.

“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause  divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;  and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ,  but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the  hearts of the simple.” -Romans 16:17-18 KJV

God does not at  all not not allow, accept any human rights, verbal and physical abuses  and neither should we.. And Exemplary public exposure of the Bullies,  abusers, the bad, guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest next  too. God undeniably himself does not show false partialities . Shout the  abuses, sins truth from the housetops..

Let me tell you we do  not have to accept human rights abuse that is a lie of the devil.. in  this world we have the same rights as the bully even the right to see  that a bully is punished for abusing us.. God is not ignorant about the  injustices inflicted upon his people, nor does he accept any of our  human rights abuses without punishing the abusers shortly.. see the  Bible book of Esther if you have doubts..

Est 9:25 But when  Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked  device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own  head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.

Did you know that sibling rivalry, abuse is one of the most common  forms of family violence? Siblings will use physical violence because  they have learned it from their parents, a bad mother or a bad father,  or other adults. In fact, one study found that 76% of the children who  were repeatedly abused by their parents also abused their siblings.. and  their spouse next too http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/young-offenders/

Any Children of God even who are verbally abused they will next be  also physically abused if the matter is not adequately dealt with  ASAP{.. Abusing others is a common reaction of the carnal flesh and is  brought on by many different reasons such as 1: unfulfilled lusts or 2: a  spoiled child syndrome who tries to get their own way by whatever  method it can 3: sibling rivalry 4: people who have no or little moral  values, respect of others 5: one’s parental influence and upbringing..6:  demon possessed persons, etc. The devil, demons and demon seduced  persons, professing Christian persons falsely, wrongfully take false  delight in slandering, abusing, bashing others and their evident fruits  of hatred alone shows how false they themselves now are too. they  clearly had, do manifest the opposite of the fruit of the Holy Spirit  which is love. ,

People who have been abused ironically will  also next abuse others.. . Free speech has never been a right to bully,  slander, degrade, abuse anyone anywhere for that matter basically  anyway, not even a religious or a political group. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/

“Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret, him will I put to silence…him  will I not endure” (Psa. 101:5). “You speak continually against your  brother and slander your own mother’s son…But I will rebuke you and  accuse you to your face!” (Psa. 50:20-21).”

The verbal and  mental abusers often known as control freaks, or bullies, and then there  are the physical abusers. The sad reality is abusers rarely change  unless they are made personally to face some severe negative  consequences, and the older they are the more severe it seems it has to  be..

Now what about

1: Can people change?

2: Sibling rivalry

3: Bullies

4: Control freaks

For a start do also see:

http://sacredtruths.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/those-unacceptable-persons-bullies-abuserscontrol-freaks-liars-slanderers/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent  twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses  THAT you have asked them to repent.. and proof, substantiation is NOT  required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the  net, tell all the others. Next God is fully free to deal with the  unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been  doing for decades too.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions firstly to  confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email  message.. and someone’s else’s statement and opinions on the subject  does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court  costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel,  slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully  accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly  can be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.

Why do even professing Christian post lies, slander on the net now?  What hidden agenda do they realy have? It could be that they want to be  worshipped solely, to receive alone all the praise of others for a  start.. they falsely want to be the sole center of attention.. even  sibling rivalry.. Sadly some professing Christians are abusive, they do  try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely try to censure  others, do lie about and slander them as well. These abuses. sins, wrong  doings are always still a personal choice that has nothing fully to do  with one’s persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences  now too. Slandering, lying about, calling a specific person false names,  personal attacks, in a church or even on any public forum is still  unacceptable now even if you are a Christian,a Catholic, a Baptist or a  Plymouth Brethren now too.

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Why was Jesus now also so angry with the Pharisees

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Of all the words of Jesus recorded in the Bible, about twenty-five percent of his teaching was devoted to prophecy concerning the destruction of Jerusalem, the scattering of the Jewish people worldwide, and the end of the world. Instead of listening to the lies of mere men and demons do read Jesus’ words in their entirety, in the Bible itself firstly. Not one Bible Prophecies Endorses Israel’s present Behavior, land conquests. The nation of Israel was blessed when it obeyed God’s instructions, and it was next cursed when it disobeyed. The context of Jesus’ Olivet Discourse was about the pending desolation of Jerusalem and the Jews, and NOT about even the Gentile end times.   https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/desolate/

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Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

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Proverbs 28:23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.

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In reality firstly Jesus had said He was God alone, Mark 14:60-65 The Pharisees were a group of religious hypocrites that were definitely not only misguided, lost, but still were was very serious about demanding others to keep God’s law, keeping the no longer applicable law of Moses over the laws of Jesus Christ. They were trying to make others slaves, even to their own false demands When Jesus cleared the temple of the moneychangers and animal-sellers, He showed great emotion and anger (Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; John 2:13-22). Jesus’ emotion was described as “zeal” for God’s house (John 2:17). His anger was pure and completely justified because at its root was concern for God’s holiness and worship. Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, “He looked around at them in anger, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts” (Mark 3:5). In reality, these bad religious leaders were, are destroying, killing others even and keeping many people from their personal salvation. “The Pharisee was standing, praying these things to himself: God, I thank You that I am not as the rest of men, rapacious, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice on the sabbath; I tithe all things, as many as I get” (Luke 18:11-12). “For I testify to them that they have a zeal to God, but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit to the righteousness of God.” Romans 10:2-3 “Watch and take heed from the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s.” Matthew 16:6 “I say to you, This one went down to his house having been justified, rather than that one. For every one exalting himself will be humbled. And the one humbling himself will be exalted” (Luke 18:14) This is the personal prayer the Pharisees would not pray and mean it as well. “Heavenly Father, I want to know You as the sole, true and living God. I ask you by the finished work of Jesus Christ to forgive me and cleanse me from all, everything I’ve done wrong. Now please do Change my heart, and give me a Holy Sprit empowered, filled new life. Fill me with the power of Your Holy Spirit. I now forever turn from all of the false gods and submit my life to your Son Jesus Christ as my only Savior and Lord.Thank You, Lord Jesus, for paying the penalty for my sins and giving me a relationship of friendship with God as my Heavenly Father The Pharisees were blind spiritually , and in fact blind guides as He Jesus was what called them. The still ignornant, self centered already dead persons, the Pharisee who always tried to be the center of attention, loved being praised by others, they the Pharisees believed they were now, smart, enlightended totally righteous, because of their own established doctrines, were fully qualified, empowered to dominate, teach others, they still saw no need for any changes in their lives now, for any or all changes needed to be done in other people’s lives and thus also falsely believed that could not next even any lose their own salvation based on their own false established, superior beliefs. Their gospel was a much too simplified one as well being “Lord, I already do believe in you and therefor you next do owe me my salvation.” Yes even today the Modern day Pharisees tend to be the self-righteous holier-than-thous persons, they often do exist now just like they did then at the time of Jesus. There is no real love of God or for God, or love for any others with them, there is just their false continual hatred of all other’s personal beliefs and their own visible large self pride. The Pharisees falsely still worked hard at it praising themselves, yet they themselves would not enter into the kingdom of heaven nor would they allow others to go in there as well.. They are also the control freaks, the persons who try to dominate all others, and often they used Jesus’s Father’s word in vain and id, do spread evil instead of good. They the Pharisees to make themselves look good and fell good continually put down demands on others, hindered placed heavy burdens by the law beyond reason so they could feel (feel and seem better than others) Jesus was so angry with the Pharisees these clear offspring of vipers? Matthew 3:7-10, clearly demon led persons, Jesus and our anger anger at them was, is expressing Holy Righteous Rage against their idolatry, greed, self aggrandizement , hypocrisy, deceit, refusal to change, self righteousness , Pharisees “The one saying not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery? The one detesting idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in Law, do you dishonor God through transgression of the Law?” (Romans 2:22-23)  We all do need to get angry at the traditional heresy, lies, falsehoods and to get them out of our brains, as well as being angry with the the people spreading them too frequently !!! John 9 41Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains. Isa 56:11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. But even the Messianic Jewish Yeshua is not the Christian Jesus, but another false Jesus still

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Jesus, in the Synoptic Gospels, went to a fig tree looking for food to eat (Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-21). When he saw that there were no figs on the tree he cursed it. There is a very reasonable explanation why Jesus cursed the fig tree .  Jesus  cursing of the fig tree is a played or acted out parable, one which warned the nation of Israel of it’s impending  final judgment. ‘The time of the fig is not yet,’ says Mark, for it was just before Passover, about six weeks before the fully-formed fig appears. The fact that Mark adds these words shows that he knew what he was talking about. When the fig leaves appear about the end of March, they are accompanied by a crop of small knobs, called taqsh by the Arabs, a sort of fore-runner of the real figs. These taqsh are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. They drop off before the real fig is formed. But if the leaves appear unaccompanied by taqsh, there will be no figs that year. So it was evident to our Lord, when He turned aside to see if there were any of these taqsh on the fig-tree to assuage His hunger for the time being, that the absence of the taqsh meant that there would be no figs when the time of figs came. For all its fair foliage, it was a fruitless and a hopeless tree.”

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The Sin Of Worshiping The Land Of Israel Instead is Idolatry,  as idolizing and worshiping of Jerusalem, Israel and the Jews is evil in the sight of God.  Especially since Israel today is a shameful nation that has abandoned the sole God of the Bible, Jesus Christ. It  is demonism  that are  inspiring people to idolize Israel and the Jews. You are now  also God, Bible IGNORANT if you do still think that God blesses any Christians who support a wicked, Christ-rejecting people, Nation of Israel. The land of Israel itself and the nation still  has nothing to do with our salvation from death and sin.!  Jesus alone now died, was buried and rose up three days later for our justification. Defending Israel is NOT even a man’s job. Defending Israel is NOT a function of the New Testament Church. In fact, this may come as a shock to you, but the Bible says that Jerusalem and the Jews will be attacked and defeated, continually  as we often hear about it too, until the Lord returns to earth, thus ending “the times of the Gentiles.” Luke 21:24, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” Israel today is not the fulfillment of any New Testament Biblical prophecy. as well.Only a total jackass, fool would believe otherwise.. Don’t be fooled  as God is not concerned with restoring Israel to the Holy Land anymore . Jesus told the Jewish rabbis of His time that the kingdom of God had been taken away from them forever. Zionism  itself now still has no need, purpose, nor concern for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Salvation is of the Lord. Salvation came through the Jews, not by the Jews. A Jew must be born-again or he or she cannot go to Heaven. Nicodemus was a Jewish leader, a Pharisee. Jesus warned Nicodemus that he needed to be born again or else he couldn’t enter into the kingdom of God (John 3:5-7). Hebrews 13:5 promises that God never forsakes His own. If you are unsaved,  do refuse to accept Jesus Christ as th Lord of your life, it is you alone that have already forsaken God and rather  now next Hell, the Lake of Fire will be your eternal home.
https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/hell-is-real/

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Zionism is based on a total misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches. It is true that God gave Palestine to Hebrews in ancient times. But the Bible teaches that their possession of the land was under a conditional covenant with Jehovah. If the Hebrews disobeyed their God, they would lose the land. This is clearly taught in Genesis 17:9-14, Exodus 19:4-5, Leviticus 26:40-45, Deuteronomy 7:12, Joshua 23:15-16, 1 Kings 9:6-9, 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, Jeremiah 34:12-22, Ezekiel 33:23-29, Matthew 21:43, etc. When the Jews rejected their Messiah, God sent the Romans to dispossess the Jews from their land in 70 AD. This was God’s complete punishment on the Jews for crucifying Christ – therefore, the Jews today should not be persecuted for something that happened 2000 years ago. However, their former title deed on the land of Palestine is not abrogated. The New Testament teaches that Christians are to focus on the heavenly Jerusalem, not the earthly one, John 4:21, Galatians 4:24-28, Hebrews 12:18-24. We are told in Hebrews 11:13-16 that even Abraham has no further interest in a restored Jewish state on earth, because he is in a much better place in heaven. Do they thank God for restoring their nation after 1,878 years of exile? (the year 1948 A.D. minus 1,978 = A.D. 70, the year Rome destroyed Jerusalem). The Jews were forced into exile. The notion that unsaved, Christ-rejecting, Jews have been restored to their homeland is totally false and unbiblical.

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See also

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/03/09/the-sin-of-worshipping-the-land-of-israel-jews/

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/about-those-that-hate-me-and-thee-wrongfully/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/the-ongoing-earthly-spiritual-battle-is-an-undeniable-fact/

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[Real Pentecostals] New link
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MK 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized (with the Spirit) will be saved; but he who does not….

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(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally seperates the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

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Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others,  or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and  often rather making it a lot worse.

Although I had been a Christian for 15 years already. .I was 35 years old when someone said i could hear God speak to me and boy I  was mad.. mad  mad.. and I said it was all untrue..   I  recognized next that  the sprit of God was telling me not to get upset and that God would talk to me this evening, next I was to drive to my favorite spot where i loved to see the mountains views this evening a and which i did..  when i got there God told me to shut up and be quiet for 30 minutes first.. next he said for me to praise the lord.. which i did for 30 minutes.. and then i could hear God talking to me specially.. for about an hour.. he God next told me he had my life planned for me. Now from then on I have learned to talk with God, to pray to him, to share with him my needs, and to discuss them, as well as listen to what he says next..

Now I  had send a birthday present my nephew and I had left a part of it out.. God told me I could send it in another Parcel, so next I had  sent the other parcel next when I was subsequently told that the parcel was lost in delivery. This surprised me cause as why would God tell me to send it.. But a few weeks later I got a phone call telling me the parcel was found. it was still  delivered.. Jesus said my sheep hear my Voice, and the Bible says that you will not go to the left or right unless you hear a confirming voice telling you this is the way walk there in.

Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, as to what un-confessed, un-repented of sins are obstructing their relationship with him now..

Believe it I do often hear God, Jesus, holy Spirit talking to me in an audible and in audible voices. It brings me great joy always now too.

God will speak to us


-but we also do need to write it down because our memories tend to be very short.
-and we need to share it with others next as well for as we sow more will be given back to us..
If you know beforehand the Bible well you will also know the reality of his revelations which will not contradict the Bible..

God’s voice. Elijah described it as a still, small voice (I Kings 19:12).
I do always listen  for an inner audible voice, and I say too “Speak lord for they servant is ready to hear”..- Doubt may eventually next hinder you at first, but throw it off, reminding yourself that it is a biblical concept, and that God is present, speaking to His children.- Don’t take your own way,  yourself, or your own personal importance too seriously which is also a sin.. of pride, rebellion, stubbornness,
 
When you do, you become tense and get in the  way of the Holy Spirit’s movement. It is also  when  we cease our labors and enter His rest that  God is free to flow (Heb. 4:10). Therefore  turn your attention  toward God in praise and worship, seeking His  face. As you wait before God, fixing your gaze solely on Jesus,   in a humble state of mind  and become all still before him, fixing your gaze on Jesus,  God  is present with you, you will become more real to you and you too will discover that you are indeed  dialoguing with God.
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You Can Hear God’s Voice! ( and here is one of many approaches to do so)
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Four keys to consistent, powerful, life-giving conversations with God
 
How to receive revelation knowledge
 
An example of revelation knowledge is when you are reading the Bible and a verse leaps off the page, hits  you between the eyes, and God says, “This is for you right now.” These are precious experiences for the believer. However, for many, they do not happen often enough. There are seven things I do which allow me  the privilege of receiving revelation knowledge every time I read the Bible. Truth and insights leap off the  page and an understanding of how they are to adjust my life permeates my spirit and soul. I love this  experience and hunger for it every time I read the Scriptures. That is why I prepare myself by doing the  following seven things. Prayerfully reflect on these steps and determine which ones you do and don’t use. 
 
 
Biblical Meditation  Resulting in illumination, revelation knowledge, anointed reasoning  
Do Not Do This:
LEFTBRAIN
STUDY/RATIONAL HUMANISM
1. Have unconfessed sin
2. Have a pre-conceived attitude
3. Be independent: “I can…”
4. Read quickly
5. Rely on reason & analysis only 
6. Read without specific purpose
7. Take credit for insights
 
But Do This:
WHOLEBRAIN/HEART
MEDITATION/DIVINE REVELATION
1. Be washed by Jesus’ blood
2. Have a teachable attitude
3. Pray: “Lord, show me”
4. Slow down, ponder, muse
5. Combine anointed reason,  flowing pictures, music &  speech
6. Read with focused purpose
7. Glorify God for insights
 
The Seven Steps of  Biblical Meditation Explained: 

1. LORD, CLEANSE ME BY YOUR BLOOD: Since receiving divine revelation is at the heart of biblical meditation, you must prepare yourself to receive from the Holy Spirit by repenting and being cleansed by the blood of the Lamb. You must be obedient to previous revelations from God (Matt. 7:6), and confess any sin in your life, so you are not cut off from ongoing revelation (Is. 59:1,2; I Jn. 1:9).

2. LORD, GRANT ME A TEACHABLE ATTITUDE: Revelation is given to those who maintain an  attitude of humility, and it is withheld from the proud and the arrogant. So keep an  open, humble attitude before God, allowing Him the freedom to shed greater light on  any ideas you currently hold and to alter them as He sees fit (Jas. 4:6; II Pet. 1:19).

3. LORD, I WILL NOT USE MY FACULTIES MYSELF: You can do nothing of your own initiative but only what you hear and see by the Spirit (Jn. 5:19,20,30). You do not have a mind to use, but a mind to present to God so He can use it and fill it with anointed reason and divine vision (Prov. 3:5-7; Rom.  12:1,2). If you use your mind yourself, it is a dead work (Heb. 6:1,2).

4. LORD, I PRAY THAT THE EYES OF MY HEART MIGHT BE  ENLIGHTENED: Slow down as you read, mulling the text over and over in your heart and mind, praying constantly for God to give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him (Eph.  1:17,18; Ps. 119:18).

5. LORD, I PRESENT THE ABILITIES TO REASON AND TO IMAGINE TO YOU TO FILL AND FLOW THROUGH BY YOUR SPIRIT: Meditation involves presenting your faculties to God for Him to fill and use. These include your left-brain reasoning capacities as well as your right-brain  visual capacities. Look for the river of God (i.e.  “Spirit flow”) to guide and fill both hemispheres, granting you anointed reasoning and dream and vision (Jn. 7:37-39). Music can assist you, as can muttering, speaking, and writing as you go through the discovery process (II Kings 3:15).

6. LORD, SHOW ME THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM I AM FACING: Focused attention brings additional energies of  concentration of heart and mind, which help  release revelation. For example, note the difference between a ray of sunlight hitting a piece of  paper, and sunlight going through a magnifying  glass to hit a piece of paper. The focused energycreates a ray so concentrated that the paper bursts into flames. When you have a hunger to master a new understanding and discipline, that hungry and searching heart will cause you to see things you  would not normally see (Matt. 5:6).

7. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR WHAT YOU HAVE SHOWN ME: Realizing that the revelation came from the indwelling Holy Spirit, give all the glory to God for what has been revealed (Eph. 3:21). 

Another Great Aid to “Seeing”: Writing Out Scripture

When you write or type out a verse, you discover words which you  otherwise might have missed. Therefore, I write out verses which I  know are key truths for my life. I pray over them, diagram them,  analyze them, meditate on them. That is why I have written many of  my books. I write so I can learn, so I can put truths I am understanding in my own words and in a framework which is meaningful for me.

The following is the law which God gave for new kings who had just  been crowned and were coming to sit upon their throne for the first  time: “Now it shall come about when he sits on the throne of his  kingdom, he shall write for himself a copy of this law on a  scroll in the presence of the Levitical priests” (Deut. 17:18). Since we are kings and priests, are we to do any less (I Pet 2:9)? Let  us make the writing out of Scriptures an important part of our lives.

When we hear of one actually claiming to be able to hear the voice of God. However, we do  not scoff, for several reasons. First, men and  women throughout the Bible heard God’s  voice. Also, there are some highly effective  and reputable men and women of God alive  today who demonstrate that they hear God’s
voice. Finally, there is a deep hunger within us  all to commune with God, and hear Him speak  within our hearts.
As a born-again, Bible-believing Christian, I  struggled unsuccessfully for years to hear God’s  voice. I prayed, fasted, studied my Bible and  listened for a voice  within, all to no avail. There  was no inner voice that I could hear!   God set me aside for a year to study, read, and  experiment in the area of learning to hear His voice. During that time, the Lord taught me  four keys that opened the door to two-way  prayer. I have discovered that not only do they  work for me, but they have worked for many  thousands of believers who have been taught  to use them, bringing tremendous intimacy to  their Christian experience and transforming their very way of living. This will happen to you  also as you seek God, utilizing the following  four keys. The key are all found in Habakkuk 2: 1,2. I encourage you to read this passage before  going on.

Key #1 – God’s voice in our hearts may sound  like a flow of spontaneous thoughts. ( confused also by the devil’s obstructions sometimes) Therefore, when I tune to God solely (  In prayer I first do ask the devil to stop talking to me, and I ask God alone to speak to me, God next he answers this prayer, I tune to spontaneity. The Bible says that the Lord answered me and  said…(Hab. 2:2). Habakkuk knew the sound of can and does speak that way at times. How  ever, I have found that for most of us, most of  the time, God’s inner voice comes to us first  as an interrupted spontaneous thoughts, visions, feelings, or impressions, (since we tend top have no room for god and often are busy pursing our own selfish, self centered ways and thoughts) . For example, haven’t each of us had the experience of driving down the road  and having a thought come to us to pray for  a certain person? We generally acknowledge  this to be the voice of God calling us to pray for  that individual. My question to you is, “What  did God’s voice sound like as you drove in your  car? Was it an inner, audible voice, or was it a  spontaneous thought that lit upon your mind?”  Most of you would say that God’s voice came  to you as a spontaneous thought.So I thought to myself, “Maybe when I listen  for God’s voice, I should be listening for a flow  of spontaneous thoughts. Maybe spirit-level  communication is received as spontaneous  thoughts, impressions, feelings, and visions.”  Through experimentation and feedback from  thousands of others, I am now convinced that  this is so.

The Bible confirms this in many ways. The definition of paga, the Hebrew word for intercession, is “a chance encounter or an accidental  intersecting.” When God lays people on our  hearts for intercession, He does it through  paga, a chance-encounter thought, accidentally  intersecting our thought processes. Therefore, when I tune to God, I tune to chance-encounter thoughts or spontaneous thoughts. When I am poised quietly before God in prayer, I have found that the flow of spontaneous thoughts  that comes is quite definitely from God.

Key #2 – I must learn to still my own thoughts and emotions, so that I can sense God’s flow of thoughts and emotions within me.

Habakkuk said, “I will stand on my guard post and station myself on the rampart…” (Hab. 2:1). Habakkuk knew that in order to hear God’s quiet, inner, spontaneous thoughts, he had to first go to a quiet place and still his own thoughts and emotions. Psalm 46:10 encourages us to be still, and know that He is God. There is a deep inner knowing (spontaneous flow) in our spirits that each of us can experience when we quiet our flesh and our minds.I have found several simple ways to quiet myself  so that I can more readily pick up God’s spontaneous flow. Loving God through a quiet worship song is a most effective means for me (For God inhabits the praises of his people, his nearness is made more real,  note  II Kings 3:15). It is as I become still (thoughts,  will, and emotions) and am poised before God  that the divine flow is realized. Therefore, after  I worship quietly and then become still, I open  myself for that spontaneous flow. If thoughts  come to me of things I have forgotten to do,  I write them down and then dismiss them. If  thoughts of guilt or unworthiness come to my  mind, I repent thoroughly, receive the washing  of the blood of the Lamb, and put on His robe  of righteousness, seeing myself spotless before  the presence of God (Is. 61:10; Col. 1:22).

As I fix my gaze upon Jesus (Heb. 12:2), be coming quiet in His presence, and sharing with  Him what is on my heart, I find that two-way  dialogue begins to flow. Spontaneous thoughts  flow from the throne of God to me, and I find that I am actually conversing with the King of  Kings. It is very important that you become still and properly focused if you are going to receive  the pure word of God. If you are not still, you  will simply be receiving your own thoughts. If  you are not properly focused on Jesus, you will  receive an impure flow, because the intuitive  flow comes out of that upon which you have  fixed your eyes. Therefore, if you fix your eyes  upon Jesus, the intuitive flow comes from Jesus. If you fix your gaze upon some desire of  your heart, the intuitive flow comes out of that desire of your heart. To have a pure flow you  must first of all become still, and secondly, you  must carefully fix your eyes upon Jesus. Again I  will say, quietly worshiping the King, and then  receiving out of the stillness that follows quite easily accomplish this.

 
Key #3 – As I pray, I fix the eyes of my heart upon Jesus, seeing in the spirit the dreams and visions of Almighty God.

We have already alluded to this principle in  the previous paragraphs; however, we need to  develop it a bit further. Habakkuk said, “I will  keep watch to see,” and God said, “Record the  vision” (Hab. 2:1,2). It is very interesting that  Habakkuk was going to actually start looking  for vision as he prayed. He was going to open the eyes of his heart, and look into the spirit  world to see what God wanted to show him.  This is an intriguing idea.I had never thought of opening the eyes of  my heart and looking for vision. However, the  more I thought of it, the more I realized this  was exactly what God intends for me to do. He  gave me eyes in my heart. They are to be used  to see in the spirit world the vision and movement of Almighty God. I believe there is an  active spirit world functioning all around me. is world is full of angels, demons, the Holy Spirit, the omnipresent God, and His omnipresent Son, Jesus. There is no reason for me not to see it, other than my rational culture, which tells me not to believe it is even there and provides no instruction on how to become open to seeing this spirit world.

The  most obvious prerequisite to seeing is that  we need to look. Daniel was seeing a vision in  his mind and he said, “I was looking…I kept  looking… I kept  looking” (Dan. 7:2,9,13). Now  as I pray, I look for Jesus present with me, and  I watch Him as He speaks to me, doing and  saying the things that are on His heart. Many  Christians will find that if they will only look,  they will see. Jesus is Emmanuel, God with us  (Matt. 1:23). It is as simple as that. You will see  a spontaneous inner vision in a manner similar  to receiving spontaneous inner thoughts. You  can see Christ present with you in a comfortable setting, because Christ is present with  you in a comfortable setting. Actually, you  will probably discover that inner vision comes  so easily you will have a tendency to reject it,  thinking that it is just you. (Invalid Doubt is Satan’s  most effective weapon against the Church.)  However, if you will persist in recording these  visions, your doubt will soon be overcome by   faith as you recognize that the content of them  could only be birthed in Almighty God.God continually revealed Himself to His covenant people using dream and vision. He did so  from Genesis to Revelation and said that, since  the Holy Spirit was poured out in Acts 2, we  should expect to receive a continuing flow of  dreams and visions (Acts 2:1-4,17). Jesus, our  perfect Example, demonstrated this ability of  living out of ongoing contact with Almighty  God. He said that He did nothing on His own initiative, but only that which He saw the Father doing, and heard the Father saying (Jn.  5:19,20,30). What an incredible way to live!

Is it actually possible for us to live out of the  divine initiative as Jesus did? A major purpose  of Jesus’ death and resurrection was that the  veil be torn from top to bottom, giving us access into the immediate presence of God, and  we are commanded to draw near (Lk. 23:45;  Heb. 10: 19-22). Therefore, even though what I  am describing seems a bit unusual to a rational  twentieth-century culture, it is demonstrated  and described as being a central biblical teaching and experience. It is time to restore to the  Church all that belongs to the Church.

Because of their intensely rational nature and existence in an overly-rational culture, some will need more assistance and understanding of these truths before they can move into them. They will find this help in the book Communion With God by the same authors.

Key #4 – Journaling, the writing out of our prayers and God’s answers, provides a greater new freedom in hearing God’s voice.

God told Habakkuk to record the vision and  inscribe it on tablets…(Hab. 2:2). It had never  crossed my mind to write out my prayers and  God’s answers as Habakkuk did at God’s command. If you begin to search Scripture for this  idea, you will find hundreds of chapters demonstrating it (Psalms, many of the prophets, Revelation). Why then hadn’t I ever thought  of it? (Or why have I refused to do it is the question too)I called the process “journaling,” and I began  experimenting with it. I discovered it to be a  fabulous facilitator to clearly discerning God’s”

Many academic scholars study the Bible and they still fail at it drastically.
A Study (My use of one part of one hemisphere of my brain) 
1. Is nowhere endorsed in Scripture (II Tim. 2:15 is a mis-translation in the KJV Bible).
2. Is self in action (Humanism – a false god).

3. Is self using reason (Rationalism – a false god).

4. Results in wisdom from below – earthly, natural, demonic (Jas. 3:15). For example, reason caused Peter to be
at odds with the purposes of God (Jn. 18:10,11).

Study violates the following biblical principles:

1. Gal. 2:20 – I resurrect self, which no longer lives.

2. Rom. 12:1 – I am using my faculties rather than presenting them to God to use.

3. Is. 1:18 – I’m reasoning, rather than reasoning together with God.

4. Gen. 3:5 – I’ve fallen prey to the temptation of the Garden of Eden that “I can know good and evil.”

  

Meditation (Hebrew/Lamad) To murmur; to converse with oneself, and hence aloud; speak; talk; babbling;  communication; mutter; roar; mourn; a murmuring sound; i.e., a musical notation;  to study; to ponder; revolve in the mind; imagine; pray; prayer; reflection; devotion”  (Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance*)

Meditation (God’s use of every part of both hemispheres of my brain as He fills and flows out through my heart by His Spirit)

1. Is endorsed 18 times in the KJV Bible.

2. Is God in action within the individual.

3. Is God granting revelation through the heart and mind which has been yielded to Him.

4. Results in wisdom from above – pure, peaceable, gentle (Jas. 3:17).

Meditation applies the following biblical principles:

1. Gal. 2:20 – I let Christ live through me.

2. Rom. 12:1 – I am yielding my outer faculties to the indwelling Spirit (to “flow” – Jn. 7:38).

3. Is. 11:2 When reasoning together with God, I receive a spirit of wisdom and understanding and knowledge.

4. Jn. 5:19,20,30 – I’m living as Jesus did, out of divine initiative, doing what I see and hear my Father doing. “

– Visit www.cwgministries.org  for many more free articles, free downloadable books and additional information on hearing God’s voice.

So did you start your journey with God in full, or are you still lost, in the wilderness? still in un-confessed, un-repented  sins, self centered, selfishly doing your own thing. Trying wrongfully to do it in your own strength.

One of the most successful of Satan’s deceptions is the promulgation of the belief that he and his angels are not here on the earth, In Revelation 12:7-9 we read, “And there was war in heaven: Michael [Christ] and his angels fought against the dragon [Satan]; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Satan’s angels are the angels that he deceived into following him in his rebellion against God. Notice that Satan and his angels [devils] were not cast out of heaven to hell; they were cast out to the earth, which is where they are right now! Jesus says in Luke 10:18, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Revelation 12:12: “Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” Additional texts which show that Satan resides on the earth are found in the book of Job. The story of the Garden of Eden is given in Genesis 2:8 through 3:24. There are only four persons mentioned: God, Adam, Eve, and the devil, Satan, who masqueraded as a serpent. Then, after Adam and Eve had been expelled, God stationed angels to guard the garden.  “Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created. . . .” God therefore certainly did not create the devil, but He did create the perfect, holy angel who later became the devil. When God created beings with free will, He knew that sooner or later one of them would begin to experience pride and selfish ambition just as Satan did. If Satan had not been created, the experience that happened to him would have happened to another angel. Why God created beings with free will, beings who can disobey if they choose, The devil still walks on earth and reports to God.  Job 1:7 says, “And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”  Genesis 1:31 tells us that “God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.” Everything was in perfect harmony with everything else. None of God’s creatures ever hurt another or made another unhappy. Where, then, did these obnoxious things come from? Where do the diseases from which mankind suffers come from? Why do animals and human beings hurt and kill one another now when they did not do this originally? Why does the lion eat other animals now instead of straw like the ox, as it did before? Consider the experience of the apostle Paul. A dedicated soldier of truth for the Lord and writer of many of the books of the New Testament, Paul had a physical infirmity. In 2 Corinthians 12:7, he tells us where his infirmity came from. “And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.” Paul says that his problem was from Satan. He also says that he was given the problem so that he would not become proud because of the abundance of God’s revelations to him. God revealed to Paul the whole truth concerning Satan’s rebellion, and it is easy to see that this privilege might have tended to make Paul proud. You see, God did not afflict Paul, but He allowed Satan to do so. Another text that shows that the devil is the cause of pain and suffering is Luke 13:11. “And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.” Here a woman is described who was paralyzed in a bowed-together position, probably with arthritis, for eighteen years. Did God do this to that poor woman and make her suffer for eighteen years? Of course not. God is the ultimate of love and kindness. In Luke 13:16, Jesus explains who did do this to the woman. “And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?” You see, Satan afflicted this woman just as he afflicted Paul and just as he causes sickness and suffering in our world today. Satan is the one who causes all disease and suffering in our world.  The only hope we have of penetrating this wall of lies and deception which Satan has built around us is in the whole Bible,  the New Testament included, the standard for truth in our world. Remember that God cannot lie. (Titus 1:2). First Peter 5:8 tells us to “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” We get a further understanding of the extent of our deception in 2 Corinthians 4:4, which explains that Satan “hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” Proverbs 16:25 tells us that “There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” First Corinthians 2:14 says, “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him.” In Matthew 24:24 Jesus Himself warns that “There shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” 2 Corinthians 11:14,15. “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

 

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Latter Rain (Christian Church) Movement – The real latter day saints..

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For a great background introduction see http://lifebyjesus.wordpress.com/2013/08/17/jesus-christ-is-god/

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 The Latter Rain Movement also now is  the Pentecostalism Biblical teaching that the Lord is pouring out His Spirit again, as He did at Pentecost, and equipping the Holy Spirit filled believers to do his will .
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The term “latter rain” was first used early in the history of Pentecostalism, when David Wesley Myland wrote a book called Latter Rain Songs in 1907. Three years later, Myland wrote The Latter Rain Covenant, a defense of Pentecostalism in general.
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 Joel 2:23, “Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for He hath given you the former rain moderately, and He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.”
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Truthfully the  “rain” in this verse is the  outpouring of the Holy Spirit. The “latter rain” (the present  end-times outpouring) would be greater than the “former rain.”
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In 1948, a “revival” broke out in Saskatchewan, Canada, and the teachings of the Latter Rain movement were clarified. Those involved in the revival were convinced that they were on the verge of a new era, one in which the Holy Spirit would demonstrate His power in a greater way than the world had ever seen. Not even the age of the apostles, they said, had witnessed such a movement of the Holy Spirit.
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 Latter Rain doctrine includes the following beliefs:
– All the gifts of the Spirit, including tongues, are received through the laying on of hands
– All Christians can be demonized and do require deliverance
– God has restored all the offices of ministry to the Church, including apostle and prophet
– divine healing can be administered through the anointing with oil or the laying on of hands
– Our own praise and worship of God does  usher God more effectively   into our presence
– The women have a full and equal ministry role in the Church
– Eventually all denominational lines will be destroyed, and the Church will unify in the last days –
the “latter rain”   Church is  victorious over the world until the entrance of Christ’s kingdom
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Genesis 1:28,   ”Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth”
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THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD CHURCHES BUT THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION IS DECEPTIVE
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The International Coalition of Apostles headed by C. Peter Wagner is the most influential purveyor of the New Apostolic Reformation, a term coined by Wagner. This organization is really an extension of the New Order of the Latter Rain whose influences and mentors include William Branham, Franklin Hall, the Hawtin brothers, and more recently Bill Hamon, Paul Cain and the Kansas City Prophets. The doctrines of the Latter Rain have influenced most of the televangelists on TV today, and so have crept deceptively into many denominations. The main heretical teachings of the New Order Of The Latter Rain, as ruled in 1949 at the General Council of the Assemblies of God held in Seattle, were as follows: (1) The restoration of foundational apostles and prophets in the churches. (2) The teaching and promotion of a transferable impartation or anointing that are passed on “by” the laying on of hands “by” the will of man. (3) Confession and deliverance from sin to men. (4) The impartation of spiritual gifts by the laying on of hands such as the gift of languages for missionary service and other “ministry skills”. (5) The extreme and unscriptural practice of imparting or imposing personal leadings by the means of the gifts of utterance, “word of knowledge” or prophecy. (6) Distortions of scripture interpretations, which are in opposition to teachings and practices generally accepted among the Church. These doctrines deemed heretical by the Assemblies Of God in 1949, which are now common fare because of the Brownsville ‘Revival” and the Third Wave movement, are all being promoted today in the New Apostolic Reformation. http://www.scribd.com/doc/16611959/New-Apostolic-Reformation-Is-Deceptive
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I ATTENDED A LATTER RAIN CHURCH  FOR MANY YEARS, I LOVED THEIR TEACHINGS, THEIR GREAT SERVICES AT THE CALGARY CHRISTIAN CENTRE,  BUT  IN THE END I HELPED TO CLOSE THE CHURCH DOWN AND I HELPED TO GET  RID OF  ALL THE RATHER BAD PASTORS  INCLUDING REV DAVID LAGORE THERE TOO..  AS IT NOW HAD  TOO MANY CROOKS, DISHONEST PERSONS. THEY HAD FALSELY  HIJACKED LATTER RAIN TEACHINGS TO TRY TO  MAKE MONEY OUT OF IT.. THERE ARE ALWAYS STILL GOOD AND BAD PASTORS,CHURCHES TOO.. WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET FOOD POISONING  TOO.. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
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Here 28/30 pastor’s relatives were on the church payroll.. and lying, steal, adultery was also common even amongst the Pastors.. I CAUGHT ONE OF THEIR PASTORS RENTING WORLDLY  VIDEOS.
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EACH PERSON CAN BE A DR JEKYLL OR A MR HYDE CONCURRENTLY, A GOOD PERSON AT ONE TIME AND OTHER BAD PERSON NEXT TOO IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT PART OF YOU YOU NOW DO ALLOW TO DOMINATE, INFLUENCE, CONTROL YOU. WE CAN WALK IN THE FLESH OR IN THE HOLY SPIRIT. We can walk humbly or walk in a false pride… AND THE RESULTS WILL VARY TOO.
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By the way while I consider the Pentecostal churches to be far superior over any other groups, denominations  still there are good and bad Pentecostals, good and bad Pentecostal pastors, churches.  Just like there are good and bad Professing Christians  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/the-false-jesus-name-apostolic-holiness-church-oneness-pentecostal-christianity/
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It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches  that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/
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These third wave named Pentecostal Ministers are the crooks, thieves, liars who use the Church, Gospel to steal God’s money for themselves. they use a sensationalized approach of presenting the gospel. They do it cause it attracts visitors, followers and increases their incomes.
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1 Pet 5:2 KJV) Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
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(1 Pet 5:3 KJV) Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. The International Coalition of Apostles headed by C. Peter Wagner is a superficial, pretentious approach to the reality of real Apostleship and the related gifts of the Holy Spirit..

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If you let any of preachers alone tell you what is the Gospel truth and what you should believe you likely will end up going to hell, since all preachers are imperfect men, and all men tend to still lie as well and too often still for various reasons too.

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I serve Jesus and not mere man, and Jesus is always first for me. I thank God that while I as a sinner am still  totally helpless to be delivered from my sins here one earth, but Jesus died for them and forgave them when I admitted them, asked for his forgiveness. Should should we all, all pastors, included.
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The Latter Rain was a post-war movement within Pentecostal Christianity which remains for some PEOPLE STILL VERY controversial to this day. ( The problem often lies with the leaders, who did not live, practice, what they preach to others too. What is the Latter Rain teaching? Today a revival of the Latter Rain heresy that was rejected in 1950 by the  assembly of God denomination, It was wrong  that many of the Assembly Of God  Pentecostal churches were jealous, thus critical  of this Ministry to this day as well. Their rejection of it to me was unjustifiable still,and all of critiques firstly need  to be balanced by honesty..)) http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/the-assembly-of-god-pentecostals-vs-the-latter-rain-pentecostals/
A very lively church when it is led by the right, Godly leaders.. and a very bad church when the shepherds are bad.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/healing-todd-bentley-florda-lakeland-revival/
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Many people write half truths, these half truths still do not make liars into honest men..
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So far nothing has caused me to change my views on the subject.
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For clarification in discussion of the Latter Rain a distinction should be made between: *The Latter Rain Revival (1947-1952) *The Latter Rain Movement (1952-1960s) *Those persons next influenced by the Latter Rain.

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Origin and Influences

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The Latter Rain Movement had its beginnings in the years following World War II. It was contemporary with the evangelical awakening which was starting with Billy Graham at the forefront, as well as the Healing Revival with Oral Roberts, Jack Coe, and William Branham at the forefront. Although William Branham was never a part of the Latter Rain as such, he was revered by its leaders. It had in fact been a Branham meeting which triggered the start of the Latter Rain.
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Several Pentecostal leaders of a small orphanage outside of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, after visiting the meeting got a vision for a different dimension of Christianity and began to fast and pray in search of it. Later that year, revival events occurred. News quickly swept across Canada and the United States, influencing many Pentecostal believers.  (This explains why it is found in Western Canada.. where it competes directly with the Christian & Missionary Alliance Corporation too. The Western Canada Alliance Churches sadly are  known for  preaching Pentecostalism   but not practicing, living it now too. See the many posts about the bad Alliance. 
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Because of its grassroots and unstructured nature, history may never know the breadth of its influence. As the revival itself died down after a few years, those who had been changed by the doctrine formed various groups which came to become known as “The Latter Rain (Movement)”. The following list includes some representative leaders of various branches, both past and present.

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*George Warnock (who had been Ern Baxter’s secretary), wrote “The Feast of Tabernacles” which became very influential not only for its view of the feasts but for its approach to the Scriptures. One identifiable mark of those influenced by the Latter Rain is their spiritual hermeneutic. *George Hawtin and his brother Ern, were key in the early spread of the movement. They traveled widely, and as they traveled the spirit and influence of the Latter Rain caught on. *A. Earl Lee from southern California was one of the fathers of the movement in Southern California. He had previously been involved with Aimee Semple McPherson..
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Mainstream Leaders

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*Kevin Conner is a very influential Bible teacher who came out of the Latter Rain and who has taken the best of these new ideas and blended them with the more traditional hermeneutics. His approach has influenced such leading ministers as T.D. Jakes. Conner is in fact part of a larger movement known as MFI which represents perhaps the most theologically solid group to directly emerge from the Latter Rain. *David Schoch was a leader associated with this branch of the Latter Rain. The church he led is now known as “City At the Cross” in Long Beach, CA. They have a helpful article here [1] *Wade Taylor came out of the Latter Rain, and was mentor to Robin McMillan, pastor of the lead fellowship of Rick Joyner’s MorningStar Ministry, which itself is very reflective of a Latter Rain ideal. *Glenn Ewing and his son Robert Ewing from Waco, Texas. Among others, the Ewings trained Jim Laffoon, leading prophet for Every Nation.
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*John Robert Stevens and his movement “The Walk” are an example of a ministry which emerged from the Latter Rain but became cultish. Royal Cronquist was another well known leader in this group. Influential charismatic Francis Frangipane came out of Stevens’ ministry, leaving before it turned in a cult-like direction. *Sam Fife and his movement “The Move” are another example of a cultish movement which was associated with the Latter Rain *Bill Britton teaching about Jesus as a “sample” or “example” son is connected to the Manifested Sons of God Theology which was taken to theological extremes. *Maranatha Campus Ministries, an outreach to college and university campuses, was accused of being a cult because of its highly authoritarian structure. It dissolved in 1989, and many of its leaders regrouped later in the 1990s to form what is now Every Nation.
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*Bishop Bill Hamon from Santa Rosa Beach, Florida. Hamon has been very influential in the Charismatic movement, including being featured on the cover of Charisma Magazine. *Dr. Kelley Varner from South Africa has a teaching ministry which is Latter Rain based. *Charles Schmitt, pastor of the large Immannuel’s Church in Silver Spring, MD, was spent time in the Latter Rain.
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Schools

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*Elim Bible Institute in New York was the center of much Latter Rain activity. *Portland Bible College, where Conner formerly taught, is another example of a Latter Rain influenced school. *Pincrest Bible School in upstate New York. Founded by Wade Taylor and Bill Britton *Destiny Image Publications, while founded long after the Latter Rain, prints sympathetic titles by Joyner, Hamon, Taylor and others.
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As the list above demonstrates, the movement itself should be distinguished from those whom it ultimately influenced. Some branches of the movement ultimately led to cult like groups, some parts of the movement remained orthodox and also true to Latter Rain ideal, and other parts of the movement moderated the doctrine and ultimately had positive effects on the Charismatic and Pentecostal churches at large.

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Historically, some of the most ardent critics of the Latter Rain and its offshoot theology, the Manifest Sons of God have come from within the Pentecostalism. ( BUT THAT IS WHERE THE DEVIL WORKS MOST OFTEN TOO)

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With time however, the Charismatic and Pentecostal movements, while rejecting the more extreme elements of the theology, have been greatly influenced by other aspects such as the “fivefold” ministry and the laying on of hands.

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More recently, it has been those from Fundamentalist circles who have been the most severe critics of the Latter Rain, and have use various loose connections to the movement to paint everyone associated with a negative brush.

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When its proponents brought the new doctrine into the Pentecostal Churches and in particular the Assemblies of God it nearly split the church. Leaders of the Assemblies of God were concerned that it glorified men among other things and pointed to the “ye are gods” as evidence of severe theological error. They were also concerned that the movement espoused a post-millennial rather than premillennial scenario of the “End Times.” In 1949 the Assemblies of God condemned the doctrine of the ‘Latter Rain Movement’ as heresy.( So what!)

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The Latter Rain brought in a new focus on the spiritual elements of Christianity including personal prophecy and typological interpretation of Scripture. The term “Latter Rain” stems from Bible passages as Jeremiah 3:3 and 5:2, Joel 2:23, Hosea 6:3, Zechariah 10:1, and James 5:7. The idea of a “Latter Rain” was not new to the movement, but in fact was present from the earliest days of Pentecostalism, who believed at the time that return of speaking in tongues and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit marked the “Latter Rain” of God’s Spirit, near the end of history.

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It is difficult to communicate the Latter Rain through reference to doctrine alone, because its most distinctive element is its spiritual atmosphere. Once one understands this basic point, it is easy to identify within the Pentecostal movement who has been impacted by the Latter Rain, and to what degree. Latter Rain proponents saw Pentecostalism as very dry in the post-war period, and in danger of slipping into a dry or mental formalism like many of their evangelical peers. When the Latter Rain hit the dryness was replaced with an almost hyper-spirituality, and the various doctrines lined up this basic idea.
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* The latter rain. The movement derives its name from its interpretation of Joel 2:23. The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost had been the “former rain” that established the Church, but the current “move” of the Spirit was the “latter rain” that would bring the Church’s work to completion, and culminate in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, which was imminent. Although this doctrine in itself had been around since Parham and the early Pentecostals, the Latter Rain broke with the dispensationalism which had become entrenched in Pentecostalism. Whereas dispensationalism is a pessimistic premillennialism, the Latter Rain emphasized victory. This led to various expressions of victorious minded premillennialism and ultimately postmillennialism. Rather than just try and save a few souls before rise of the anti-Christ, the Latter Rain emphasized the Church as overcoming and victorious. This shift alone is extremely significant and can be seen behind the Word of Faith movement, as well as most branches of the Charismatic movement.
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* Christian Unity. A major theme of the Latter Rain was unity among the believers, in the church service, in the geographic region, and at large. They taught that God saw the church organized not into denominational camps, but along geographical lines. They expected that in the coming last days, the various Christian denominations would dissolve, and the true church would coalesce into citywide churches under the leadership of the newly-restored apostles and prophets. This theme was recurrent among the Kansas City Prophets of the 1980s.
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* Laying on of hands. Unlike mainstream Pentecostalism, which holds that the baptism of the Holy Spirit usually comes after prolonged “tarrying” or waiting for the Spirit, the Latter Rain movement taught that the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit can be imparted on one believer by another through the laying on of hands. This impartation was not given to the body at large, but to specifically selected or qualified leaders.
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* The fivefold ministry. The Latter Rain taught that of the five ministerial roles mentioned in Ephesians 4:11 (apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher), the foundational roles of apostle and prophet had been lost after the time of the first apostles, but God was restoring these ministries in the present day. This theme has continued to this day, and has been recently rebranded by C. Peter Wagner as the “New Apostolic Reformation”
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* The Manifest(ed) Sons of God. Some leaders of the Latter Rain movement taught that as the end of the age approached, a select group of “overcomers” would arise within the Church. These Manifest Sons of God would receive the “spiritual bodies” mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15. They would become immortal, and receive a number of divine gifts, including the ability to change their physical appearance, to speak any language, to teleport from place to place, and to perform divine healings and other miracles. They would complete the Great Commission, spreading the gospel throughout the world, and at last usher in the millennial reign of Christ.
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See also

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External links

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Books

*Pentecostal scholar Richard Riss wrote a master’s Thesis on the Latter Rain, which was repackaged as a book entitled “The Latter Rain” and is available from Honeycomb Visual Productions in Canada. This book is supportive of the movement. It is one of the few scholarly works available on the topic. *Reg Layzell, The Pastor’s Pen (Vancouver, British Columbia: Mission Publishing, 1965) *Dick Iverson. The Journey, A Lifetime of Prophetic Moments (Portland, OR: Bible Temple Publishing, 1995) *Stanley Frodsham “With Signs Following”
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PRAY HONESTLY ALWAYS  AND ASK GOD  FIRST TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH
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I am really grateful for my Pastor  Jesus Christ.

You have to be called directly, personally by God to be a pastor,. and God will next give you the love for the job, the people, he will God equip you for all of the tasks.. still sadly many Pastors still are not God called, but self chosen..

A pastor’s commitment next to his people includes first keeping his commitment to serve God firstly, not man or self.. A pastor admitted to me he did not have a full commitment to God.. I was shocked at his still corruption

It was a great shock to me when I had switched over to the Pentecostal faith from the Brethren, Baptist faith to see just as many bad and, crooked pastors there now too..

Pastors too, no matter to  what or to whom you attribute the sin in your life, you are still a sinner that is going to hell unless you overcome that sin by Jesus Christ

The BASIC issue about too many bad pastors even these days now  is not just about the Pentecostal PASTORS but the subject OF TOO MANY bad pastors we seem to have in most denominations still too and STILL why?

Even because many of these BAD people, bad pastors EVEN THE too often false critics are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too. They need to grow up spiritually as well. Are any of you, Pastors, elders, now claiming to be a better teacher, guide than the Holy Spirit himself?  so where is your evidence of being spirit filled, evidence of real  love too?

Where is the power of God that we see in the Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible?

Follow the Anointing Luke 4:14 “And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” Over the years many have questioned the lack of power in their Baptism of the Holy Spirit as opposed to what they read in Scripture and the New Testament and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Sadly too often the pastors tend to be legalists sadly.. control freaks, abusive persons due to a false pride, and their religion rather too often a mere cultural movement, it seems..

I had to call the police against a crooked AOG pastor who was abusing me, stealing money, stealing from his flock in my witness too. I am known for and I like to deal with the whole truth too..

Pastors too often still do falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also too often do still preach. Pastors have to firstly be a good example of what they preach to others as well..

So the other real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word , Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit.. and the answer is yes… all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.

Over 30 percent of evangelical church persons, pastors included practise div0rce, counsel  divorce and I can also assure you these too often sex manics  they are also guilty of many, many other sinful acts in reality too.

Generally these days it is the wife who wrongfully files for divorce,and  before that it used to be the men.  These days the too often dirty lawyers who make blood money from divorce, are wolves in sheep clothing now picturing them slves and  the spouse to the courts, as good persons, decent, honest, relaible, falsely claiming her now to be a totally good , honest person, and not another typical  liar too.
 
The lawyers who tend to be too often liars themselves they like to present the female spouse before the Queen’s courts, before the supposedly reputable judge, who in my witness, experiences actual too often is also now a liar, pretender himself, a person  who does not get off the bench cause he is too lazy to ascertain the truth of the facts being presented to him or her.
 
The lawyers like to present the wife as a decent, respected, good, moral person who now has provided faithfully  for her husband, she did not, does not abuse any them not even her bad  husband, she does not cheat, lie or steal now as well.
 
The still mostly  liars like to present her as an a good person, whereas more likely in reality  she also is another demon. In fact men and women tend to be equal sinners, before God and man. In fact the same spouse she likely has slandered, lied, committed adultery, even stole from her spouse and now she will keep on lying, perjuring herself hoping next to get a good alimony support from her spouse.
 
Many a person  when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact.  
 
All of a sudden clearly new now  openly monsters here have arisen.  In reality  the wife is not the mostly   innocent, the sole injured party and the husband is not the sole bad guy, villain too.
 
All of these mostly immoral,  lying now people, bad pastors, bad spouses, bad laywers, bad judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
 
  Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable.

 

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 A Happy New Year

2009

Wishing you all love, joy, peace, love,

 

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freedom, prosperity, and much more.

and that you at least do not repeat last year’s mistakes..

(Prov 10:22 KJV)  The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

 

 Paul Kambulow

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