Virgin Mary

Saturday Topic: Truth and Christianity by TTM

thenonconformer said, Not all Catholics deny worshipping Mary as part of the Godhead…

June 23, 2008 at 2:49 am

Introduction

I am really having a hard time trying to understand what part Mary the mother of Jesus and others, whose husband was Joseph, has in a discussion of the trinity.. The trinity trio of the god head, new testament clearly excludes her and always has. She Mary was not present at man and earth’s creation or present during the period of old testament now too and according to the Bible undeniably too! The catholic expounded definition of virgin Mary is clearly a false add on to the Bible, New testament.

– 5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. Sadly undeniably most pastors who firstly should above all others they do not pray even one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day so no wonder they are embossed also in bulling, abuses, controversies, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, divorce.

“Felicity Hangnail: Part of the painful tragedy you mentioned happened because some authorities in the RC Church in Quebec did not follow the directions from Rome in accepting candidates for priesthood, letting some wolves in as a result. But then there was also the case when Christ meant nothing to some people’s lives. When salt loses its taste, it is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.”

– The other day I went to visit a local evangelical church, and when I got there the doors was close, even though the sign posted there had said services at 6.00 pm so it appears that they had switched to 7.00 pm services and no one had bothered to change the sign, either cause they did not care about any new visitors or ?? That was the same church where the senior pastor would not talk to me, say hello to me on the street as well..

– >> We have seen over 5000 people trained in 80 days in evangelism – the real deal gospel and we want our nation to see a great harvest.
http://charismania.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/the-smiths-todd-bentley-and-one-moment-in-time-christianity

Now I have seen 3 separate great active evangelical pushes in 3 separate denominations firsthand, the Baptist and the Pentecostal, Alliance ones included.. but what had rightfully concerned me still was the serious leader’s, elders personal immorality and corruption within these churches, which any evangelical outreach still did not deal with! Preaching the Gospel is still not an acceptable alternative to living it. “So in one of the churches the evangelical Baptist outreach leader had sexually propositioned me even.. me a married man, and the pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me, and in the Pentecostal church the outreach pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me as well, in the process the church pastors were stealing money, abusing funds etc..” what were these churches now converting people to in reality? Unacceptable religious abuse. Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons. Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap.. ( It seems even the bad evangelicals do behave like the bad catholics.. really here there is little differences)

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>>Mary is not a person of the Trinity, if that is what you mean. She does have a very special relationship with the three persons of the Trinity, however. She is:
1. Daughter of the Father ( and I am a son too)
2. Mother of the Son ( She is not my mother)
3. Spouse of the Holy Spirit ( and of Joseph)

>>Have you read my latest post on The Blessed Virgin Mary?

rather have you even fully read the Bible is firstly more applicable Question.. not rather the man made commentaries..

And yes I have often read the Catholic version that Mary now is part of the deity of God.. ridiculous.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

LOVE OR THE CLEAR LACK OF IT SAYS IT ALL

 

Diverting back wrongfully the topic discussion and  your personal insulting derogatory remarks is not the right approach from anyone too especially now since you know still nothing about me or my views.. and it does continue to reflect poorly on you still too…even your typical unChristlike   derogatory and insulting remarks, bulling Reponses,  self righteous, a superiority attitude. and what else?
 
Totally undeniably especially on the net Virgin Mary is projected as a God and not rather truly as my sister in Christ. 
 
THE WAY YOU DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS HERE TO ME YOURSELF AT YOUR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER  IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO.
 
This personal ACT of yours is also a poor example of  any type of professing Christian for all to see on the net.
 
(Mat 7:16 KJV)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
 
(Mat 7:17 KJV)  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
 
(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 
(1 Cor 8:1 KJV)  Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
 
(1 Cor 13:1 KJV)  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
 
(1 Cor 13:2 KJV)  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
 
(1 Cor 13:3 KJV)  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
 
(1 Cor 13:4 KJV)  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
 
(1 Cor 13:8 KJV)  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
 
(1 Cor 13:13 KJV)  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
 
(Col 3:14 KJV)  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
 
(1 Tim 4:12 KJV)  but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.
 
(2 Tim 2:22 KJV)  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
 
(1 Pet 4:8 KJV)  And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
 
(1 Pet 5:14 KJV)  Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.
 
(2 Pet 1:7 KJV)  And to godliness ( add) brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
 
 (Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
(1 John 4:12 KJV)    If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
 

 WOW! I too would rightfully see a sermon from even you  than hypocritically only hear it preached again.. time you firstly had applied the Bible yourself for all to see.

 LOVE OR THE CLEAR LACK OF IT SAYS IT ALL

 Here is a tip to understanding me better, more easier, simply too… when some do people fight- the bullies, abusers, slanderers, liars, they next generally expect, do want, demand  the rest of us to take sides,  even in their ungodly, unholy wars amongst these undeniably unforgiving Baptists, Pentecostals, Catholics, etc., even the wars even on the net too..I refuse truly to take to take any of their sides, for there is no adequate justifications for their war mongering, fights, absues, and for me they rightfully, clearly now  are both in the wrong,  and they  all firstly should repent now.They all, can  and will know we are Christians by how we love one another, not by our mere words, or our immoral acts in our doctrinal disputes.
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

 see also

 

 

 

The bad critics again

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

>>Show me where Todd said “that God told him to get people to believe in the angel and not Jesus.”

thanks for illustrating clearly what I have written about today as well… https://postedat.wordpress.com/

(2 Cor 11:26 KJV)  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
 
And now dealing Todd Bentley who  rightfully feels that  it is necessary to defend himself against his critics and to answer some questions and some of the alleged controversies  plaguing his own ministry.
 
 These often distorted, false attacks now are critical even of three areas.
-Todd Bentley personally including his own spirituality, leadership
-The  poor associates of Todd Bentley
-The doctrines of Christian denomination of the Latter rain movement itself.
 
But firstly it is clearly hard to take now too many of these criticism seriously when they are biased, distorted, one sided bashings, false opponents, based often on false presumptions, false suppositions, false attacks, false accusations, straw arguments, and have  often been done clearly with hidden agendas, and thus they are now not rather even genuine, sincere, humble brethren offering their relevant, related points of views.
 
Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now,  is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
 
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attend these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
 
I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!
  
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
  
Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley 55 page download free for all.  Fresh Fire Ministries. Here is a link to the PDF file > Biblical Reasons to Receive God’s Glory and Give it Away in Power Evanglism  http://www.primewriter.com/LakelandC…pdf 

Todd Bentley

including also even

 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/

 

(2 Cor 11:26 KJV)  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
 
And now dealing Todd Bentley who  rightfully feels that  it is necessary to defend himself against his critics and to answer some questions and some of the alleged controversies  plaguing his own ministry.
 
 These often distorted, false attacks now are critical even of three areas.
-Todd Bentley personally including his own spirituality, leadership
-The  poor associates of Todd Bentley
-The doctrines of Christian denomination of the Latter rain movement itself.
  
This too often  whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents.
 
But first  it is clearly hard to take now too many of these criticism seriously when they are biased, distorted, one sided bashings, false opponents, based often on false presumptions, false suppositions, false attacks, false accusations, straw arguments, and have  often been done clearly with hidden agendas, and thus they are now not rather even genuine, sincere, humble brethren offering their relevant, related points of views.
 
Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now,  is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
 
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
 
I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humity, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.
 
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
 
Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley 55 page download free for all.  Fresh Fire Ministries. Here is a link to the PDF file > Biblical Reasons to Receive God’s Glory and Give it Away in Power Evanglism  http://www.primewriter.com/LakelandC…pdf
  
    
To be absolutely fair to all in the last 5 decades I personally  have seen no signifant spiritual, behaviorial differences between fundamental, Brethren, Baptists Preachers, and the Alliance, Pentacostal Preachers, or Catholic for me they were mostly all bad.
  

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 Responses to “Todd Bentley”

  1. Michael Says: June 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm    I take it you haven’t actually read any of the criticism?
  2. thenonconformer Says: June 22, 2008 at 8:48 pm    Michael if you make such lying, distorted, false posts it is not a wonder I would disregard rightfully your posts now too and had you also read my blogs you would not have made such a poor statement.. but thanks for illustrating clearly what I have written about here to all .

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http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST 

 

 Again:

This too often whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents.

I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics, and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY TO INSULT, ABUSE, LIE ABOUT THE OTHER CHRISTIANS?

I HAVE BEEN RECENTLY READING AGAIN A MAJORITY OF THE CRITICS OF THE LATTER DAY REVIVALS, and too clearly their often diverting back wrongfully the topic discussions, making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks is even THEIR typical unChristlike bulling Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude, and what else? is not the right approach from anyone and it does continue to reflect poorly on ALL OF THEM STILL too…

THE WAY THEY THEMSELVES DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO.

This personal ACT of THEIRS is also a poor example of any type of professing Christian for all to see on the net.

(Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

I too would rightfully see a sermon from even them all than hypocritically only hear it preached again from these critics.. it is time they firstly had applied the Bible for all to see.

Sow, show your love to others even here.. mandatory

One would even think this professing Christians sites are a place for a gathering of snakes, jokers, not real professing, decent, living Christians by the type of posts many write now on various topics even. If you profess to be a Christian time you acted like it still too..

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too

I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attend these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..

https://postedat.wordpress.com/ 

 

Alberta – the Devil’s belt

 (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

>> Canada is nice to a point but far too socialistic for my liking…though I live in the West and we are less left then the East…

Being very knowledgeable and actively involved in both Canadian, Albertan Politics for decades, a lying  bad Conservative is not any better than a bad no good Liberal to start of with…
 
as far as socialistic tendency the east has had more Christian influences for the last hundred years than the west, Alberta, where the RCMP police force was first established to control the cattle rustlers…  and the cold indifference towards the needs of the citizens Canada wide too of many Conservative MLA’s MPs I had met in Calgary was pathetic, unacceptable..

>>I live in Alberta which is the oil rich province and is the largest provider of Oil to America….lots of wealth but sadly materialism is god here….we used to be known as the Bible Belt of Canada but with the influx of great wealth and the combination of Multiculturism, we are spiritually dead…very sad….

I have worked at Syncrude in Fort McMurray Alberta myself, and in Calgary too, and it is very noticeable how bad and also how  they do wrongfully despise poor people in Calgary’s evangelical churches are, as I have often seen myself, I could not find one decent church there.. … and truly Alberta has become the devil’s belt.. where I had pastored for some years a home church for poor people  in Calgary and that included weekly home visitations too,    .. and I am a patron member of the Calgary Multicultural centre too. 

(Rev 3:17 KJV)  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
   
Ever notice also how many Conservatives in Alberta are admittedly alcoholics and not just the sad looking, grumpy  people, or the often road rage too? 

And http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST was written specially for the pastors there now too

History as usual repeats itself even in Alberta. Predicable, cyclic  Bust takes still Alberta by surprise  today ? “ There’s a tiny park in downtown Calgary that is a stark reminder of everything that went wrong in Alberta after the boom of the 1980s and seems to be happening all over again.  The park is right next to the Bank of Montreal’s 41-storey office tower. It was supposed to be the site of a second tower that was cancelled when the bank realized the boom was over and it wouldn’t need all those offices in Western Canada after all. Twenty years later, the price of oil and gas has nosedived again and major projects are about to be cancelled or capped.  Just last week, developers of what is slated to be the tallest building in Western Canada declared that they need $1.1 billion to keep the project going. There is already a square-block hole in the ground and a forest of girders and cranes on-site in the heart of downtown Calgary, but the future home of EnCana Corporation is desperately trying to arrange construction financing in a tight credit market.  Building permits on five other large projects are set to expire because of inactivity. In some cases, the city has had to seal empty construction pits because the developers have pulled the plug.  You would think that in a city, and a province, that has experienced more than a few booms and busts over the past 80 years some sort of common sense would have evolved about how to thrive over the long term in such an economy. But it seems both the private sector and the government are easily blinded by their wishful thinking: this boom will last forever and the money will keep rolling in, they keep telling themselves and everyone else. But it never does. So in the same week that the city’s largest construction project was revealed to be in trouble, the finance minister and the premier announced more bad news. The provincial treasury’s projected surplus for 2008-2009 dwindled from $8.5 billion to $2 billion because of declining oil and gas prices and will likely dwindle even further. Plans for new roads, schools and hospitals are now on hold.  Premier Ed Stelmach also revealed that he is deferring a new royalty regime – which was have to added more than $1.4 billion a year to provincial coffers – because it’s simply the wrong time to increase taxes and risk a further slowdown of the petroleum industry.  No doubt he wishes former premier Ralph Klein had increased royalties years ago when the industry was awash in profits. None of this would really matter if the provincial government had actually prepared for the bust during the boom by saving some of its billions of dollars in bounty.  But it didn’t. Instead it spent billions on infrastructure when the cost of labour and materials was skyrocketing; at one point it issued $400 cheques to every man, woman and child in Alberta, a $1.4 billion giveaway; and it cut taxes or kept them low. Alberta still has The Heritage Savings Trust Fund established by former premier Peter Lougheed but it is only worth $15.8 billion. Norway, by contrast, has managed to squirrel away $350 billion since 1991. Stephen Harper’s Conservatives have also managed to whittle away billion dollar surpluses. Perhaps they also thought the boom would last forever. Or perhaps all those Alberta Conservatives simply forgot about the famous bumper sticker from the 1980s that read: “Please God, let there be another oil boom. I promise not to piss it away this time.”  ” http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/541627   
 
So”  The Prime Minister’s Office says it’s imposing restrictions on the size of ministerial entourages on trips outside Ottawa.  PMO spokesman Kory Teneycke says the number of political aides allowed to travel with a minister will be limited to two. And he says the government is considering a plan to encourage public servants to fly economy class.  The measures come amid sky high travel bills that some Conservative cabinet ministers have piled up since the Tories came to power in 2006.

For example, The Toronto Star is reporting that last year, then environment minister John Baird billed the taxpayers $61,000 in airfares to attend a climate change conference in Indonesia.  The tab included flights for himself, three political aides and two federal officials. (The Canadian Press, ccg)

(Conservatives-CBC)  Opposition parties say the Harper government is softening up the public for cuts to the CBC.  With the crashing economy and recent revelations about CBC executive spending, Liberals and New Democrats argue the government has already started to make its case.  Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has mentioned the CBC’s $1 billion-dollar annual federal subsidy — and has floated the idea of selling federal assets to balance the budget.  Heritage Minister James Moore sent a letter warning CBC executives to curb their spending in light of “reported excess.”  In the House of Commons this week, a Conservative backbencher accused the public broadcaster of “irresponsible” spending habits.  NDP heritage critic Libby Davies says it all adds up to the government “laying the groundwork” for a whack at the CBC, a favourite Conservative whipping boy. (The Canadian Press, ccg)

Bad Midwives

http://myfirstlove86.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/christianity-religion-part-2/

>> “For far too many converts the process of new birth is long and complicated: Faith may come well before repentance; baptism may come long after faith (or, more confusing still, long before); many people are not sure whether they have been ´baptised´ in the Spirit or not; some have never repented; others have never been baptised. It is usally not their fault. They where badly delivered by inexperienced and untrained midwives.” or immoral midwives

Most people do not have the fullness of the Holy Spirt , pastors now too, because they have nver made Jesus Christ complete Lord of their life.. and this is not an option still too.

Plus now 5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. Sadly undeniably most pastors who firstly should above all others they do not pray even one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day so no wonder they are embossed also in bulling, abuses, controversies, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, divorce.

Now I have seen 3 separate great active evangelical pushes in 3 separate denominations firsthand, the Baptist and the Pentecostal, Alliance ones included.. but what had rightfully concerned me still was the serious leader’s, elders personal immorality and corruption within these churches, which any evangelical outreach still did not deal with! Preaching the Gospel is still not an acceptable alternative to living it. “So in one of the churches the evangelical Baptist outreach leader had sexually propositioned me even.. me a married man, and the pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me, and in the Pentecostal church the outreach pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me as well, in the process the church pastors were stealing money, abusing funds etc..” what were these churches now converting people to in reality? Unacceptable religious abuse. Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons. Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap..

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;Colossians 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counselling divorce, gossiping, slandering, lying, and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counselling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.

But eventually one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

(Micah 3:6 KJV) Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

as to what is a Christian?

http://myfirstlove86.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/christianity-religion/

To be a Christian is based on the greek word anointed, Christos, a person we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirt of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(Acts 10:39 KJV)  And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

(Acts 10:40 KJV)  Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;

(Acts 10:41 KJV)  Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

(Acts 10:42 KJV)  And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

(Acts 10:43 KJV)  To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

(Acts 10:44 KJV)  While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

(Acts 10:45 KJV)  And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

(2 Cor 3:2 KJV)  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

(2 Cor 3:3 KJV)  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

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(Rom 8:29 KJV)  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
 
(Rom 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
 

Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on various sites I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,

but clearly the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.
 
and some of the inacceptable responding bullies, bashers who try their false personal attacks on me now cause I had stepped on their toes, tyhey do not even know me well enough to make any kind of personal judgmental bashings  upon me never mind doing it now in public too
 
Secondly it is amazing how many so called Christian Internet Discussions sites are still control freaks, ostriches with hidden agendas and they do not post the Responses that show them truly in an unfavorable light..
 
so I merely post my posts even here anyway
 
Mind you there is a difference between unfair censorships and regulating appropriately the inadequate spews, comments..  but never the less let the prophets speak and let the other’s judge..
 
some sites that  I do like to make posts in.
 
posts even such as
 
– I am really having a hard time trying to understand what part  Mary the mother of Jesus and others, whose husband was Joseph, has in a discussion of the trinity.. The trinity trio of the god head, new testament clearly excludes her and always has. She Mary was not present at man and earth’s creation or present during the period of old testament now too  and according to the Bible undeniably too! The catholic expounded definition of virgin Mary is clearly a false  add on to the Bible, New testament.
 
– 5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. Sadly undeniably most pastors who firstly should above all others they do not pray even one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day so no wonder they are embossed also  in bulling, abuses, controversies, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, divorce.
 
– The other day I went to visit a  local evangelical church, and when I got there the doors was close, even though the sign posted there had said services at 6.00 pm >it appears that they had switched to 7.00 pm services and no one had bothered to change the sign, either cause they did not care about any new visitors or ?? That was the same church where the senior pastor would not talk to me, say hello to me  on the street as well..
 
– >> We have seen over 5000 people trained in 80 days in evangelism – the real deal gospel and we want our nation to see a great harvest.
http://charismania.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/the-smiths-todd-bentley-and-one-moment-in-time-christianity
 
Now I have seen 3 separate great active evangelical pushes in 3 separate denominations firsthand, the Baptist and the Pentecostal, Alliance ones included.. but what had rightfully concerned me still was the serious leader’s, elders personal immorality and corruption within these churches, which any evangelical outreach still did not deal with!  Preaching the Gospel is still not an acceptable alternative to living it. “So in one of the churches the evangelical Baptist outreach leader had sexually propositioned me even.. me a married man, and the pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me,  and in the Pentecostal church the outreach pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me as well, in the process the church pastors were stealing money, abusing funds etc..” what were these churches now converting people to in reality? Unacceptable religious abuse. Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons. Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap..   
  
 Colossians 3:12  Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;Colossians 3:13  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.Colossians 3:14  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counselling divorce,  gossiping, slandering, lying,  and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there  was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship  with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counselling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.But eventually  one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

(Micah 3:6 KJV)  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

Enough is enough!

 

Want to get really depressed? Just visit an old age home, where you have mostly retired seniors in their late 80’s and talk to them firsthand, and often hear them say “the longer I live on earth, the more I see how wicked, corrupted place it really is”. Now I too have experienced the same thing, such as crooked lawyers, bad cops, useless civil servants, useless politicians, bad, corrupted pastors even  but I next did something good about it..
 
 
Now sadly in my course of daily activities, travel I do personally encounter too often still unacceptably abusive, wicked persons   and I have two simple choices: I take an ostrich or sheep approach and I can   pretend, lie  that I  did not see it, or that does not concern me or rather I can   take real,  positive actions to insure the same unacceptable wicked person does not repeat their bad acts.
 
One reason  too many wicked persons do not repent it cause they seem to think I too am only one person, another one of those too typical complainers, loud mouthed person whose bark is worse than his bite.. and it does seem we have mostly that type of complainers now too.  
 
But in real life there are a few things that get my blood boiling, cause my blood pressure to rise and cause me to act immediately.. that especially includes abusive pastors, abusive cops, abusive medical care workers, and crooked, accountants,  bad lawyers, crooked corporate managers, bad politicians too  now too as you all can see in posts. 
 
Now I too have learned the great secret in helping bad people to personally repent or to change their wicked ways.. the public exposure and the demand of their rightful prosecuting, dismissal  of the same  wicked persons, as well as their bad superiors, and generally best done not by a phone call, but rather done in writing, with many copies to the right parties, news media, ministers, elected offices and also openly to the general public next too even  such as those you do eventually see on my web blogs https://postedat.wordpress.com/ and http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/ created   special blogs where I do, have placed the unacceptable wrong doings of others towards me and others, and thus I let them experience their own appiroaite consequence.
 
Public exposure and the related prosecution of of the unrepentant wicked persons serves best interest. 

Now crooked civil and public professionals, crooked realtors, crooked accounts, crooked business persons are not the only bad guys I have encountered in Canada, there have also been the crooked hospital administrators, perverse internet service providers such as Bell and Acanac as well, where they have a very wide, oceanic gulf  between what the sales- marketing department promises and what they next do deliver as well.. and if you try to complaint too much to them they tend next to lie about you, and try to cut you off too. Bell Canada does not discriminate, show partiality, it seems ready to abuse anyone..   Canada’s telcos such as Bell  are at a clear disadvantage in the battle with the cable companies, for internet speeds as well, cable firms  have modern coaxial cable networks that support greater bandwidth use than the phone companies’ too common mostly copper wire and so in overcoming this Bell resorts to lies, false misleading advertisements for years now too.

Paul Kambulow

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/so-much-for-any-promised-consumer-protecton/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/about-time-big-3-put-into-their-place-bell-rogers-and-telus/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/bells-lies-vs-reality-again/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/isp-false-misleading-adds/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/the-still-unrepentant-wicked-persons/

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Not the prime Minister Stephen Harper,  Most people only care when it concerns them

 


 

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