Are you JW for real?

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Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas. some not too well hidden even. Sadly some people they tend present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness for they tend to falsely have a hidden agenda, one of which is that often they want to get rich, and /or live in the kingdom of self, to be falsely personally worshipped and still live in sin too.  

Jehovah’s witnesses are very strongly cultic in both doctrine and behaviour, thus fitting both categories of false doctrine and mind control.  They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.

They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael – the first being created by God.

They deny that God is a Trinity.

They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.

They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.

They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them – Jesus Christ.

They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.

They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower’s magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don’t read the Watchtower’s books, you will “fall into darkness” – what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died. They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.

They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.

They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.

They discourage tertiary education.

They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.

They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.

They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas – the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ. http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/jw.htm

JW are known liars in their false Bible translations. They lie and claim  the original Hebrew New Testament existed.. with no proof..

They claim that there was a Hebrew original of the gospel of Matthew is a myth..

1.The best and only argument JW’s can come up with for inserting Jehovah into the New Testament is that the gospel of Matthew, unlike the other 26 books of the New Testament, was written in Hebrew.

2.Even if Matthew was written originally in Hebrew, it would still mean Jehovah’s Witnesses change the other 26 New Testament books that were originally written in Greek. But with brazen deception they think if the Holy Spirit wrote one NT book in Hebrew that contained YHWH, this justifies changing the Holy Spirit’s choice of not using YHWH, but LORD, in the other 26 books.
3.But the most important fact to note, is that Jehovah’s Witnesses admit that the other 26 books of the New Testament were written in Greek where the Hebrew “YHWH” would not be used. It is one thing to falsely argue that Matthew was written in Hebrew, then later corrupted when translated into Greek by removing YHWH, but quite another to explain why YHWH is never found in the other 26 New Testament books. You see, Jehovah’s Witnesses believe the entire New Testament has been corrupted.
4.Anyone who has studied the writings of the “Apostolic Fathers” knows that they are quite unreliable. It is most likely that they thought a Hebrew translation of the original Greek text of Matthew into Hebrew was the original. They were mistaken.
5.It is also possible that Matthew produced both a Hebrew and a Greek Original, except for the fact that we have no textual manuscript evidence in the way of ancient fragments to support a Hebrew original of Matthew. The fact remains that there is absolutely no evidence of a Hebrew Matthew.
6.There has never been found any copies of a Hebrew Matthew, all were written in Greek, just like the other 26 books.
7.In fact of the 5000 oldest manuscripts of the Bible NONE use YHWH in the New Testament. So JW’s are found to be liars.
8.JW’s argue that the text of the Bible as we have it is corrupted and that it did originally contain YHWH, at least in Matthew, but it was removed. This is entirely different than saying Bible’s mistranslate the Greek underneath, because in this case, it is missing from the Greek.
9.If JWs can argue that YHWH was lost from the original, then Christians can argue the word “trinity” was originally used in the Bible, but lost. When JW’s argue that Trinity is never used in the Bible, we can equally argue that YHWH was never used in the New Testament. Of course this kind of simple logic is too much for the average JW to comprehend and they will argue in one breath that YHWH was lost from the Greek, then in the other breath say it is adding to the word of God if someone insists the word trinity is found in the Bible. (note: Trinity was never used in the Bible, but the argument is used for hypothetical reasons only. Go to our trinity in the Bible section for more details.)
10.Isn’t that convenient! They say that YHWH was originally in the Bible, but it was removed… but we have no evidence it was removed. They say Matthew was written in Hebrew… but there is no evidence it was ever written in Hebrew.

Some say that it is believed by most scholars that at the time of Jesus on earth Scholars they frequently had access to a Hebrew Bible and even consulted it??? .. who believes that???? Prove it…
As many falsely do fail to admit that the Romans had forbidden the Hebrew language to be used, so they also had burned , destroyed all the Hebrew, Jewish, books, libraries too.. and even in the synagogues where they used the Greek old testament.. the last 300 years before Jesus too..
Yes Josephus a Roman Historian was a Jewish person who changed his Hebrew name to a Roman name too.
For those of you who have become fascinated by — or perhaps deceived would be a better word for it — the idea of trying to discover if you have any Jewish or Hebrew roots of Jesus, the New testament.. no one can prov…e what it is.. there are less than 3 books from the time of Christ available about Jesus, and the JW plus the Jewish Messianic Parrots are still some of the Biggest liars  There is really no need for anyone to try to impress me with how pro-Israel Jesus once was.. He is no longer pro Jewish, Pro Israel..
So now even I really don’t care about the subject of Jews.. and their Hebrew language… because I am not Jewish. I am a New Testament Christian who strives to follow the pattern of the First Century Church. 
It can be generally agreed that the historical Jesus primarily spoke Greek perhaps along with some Hebrew and Aramaic (although there is some debate as to the degree. The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum, where Jesus lived, Greek was widely spoken as in the major cities of the Eastern Mediterranean such as Antioch and Alexandria. Jesus may have also known enough Hebrew to discuss the Hebrew Bible, and he may have known Koine Greek a common language of the Eastern Mediterranean after the Macedonian-Greek (331 BC) and Roman (63 BC) invasions. Indeed, Most of the apostles from the Galilee region also spoke Greek . SO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AT THE TIME OF JESUS FOR ALL PURPOSES DIDN’T EXIST? It is a documented fact that when the Ten Tribes of Joseph, known as “Israel or Ephraim,” were taken into “captivity” in c.800 BCE by Assyria, they ceased to exist as a separate people because they lost their use of their Aramaic/Hebrew language and their sense of Israelite tribal identity.
The Tetragrammaton (Greek: τετραγραμματον, “four letters”) is the quadriliteral, typically unvocalized, Hebrew theonym יהוה identifying the God of Israel throughout the Hebrew Bible, composed of the Hebrew letters yodh he waw he, written Right-to-left in Hebrew, and transliterated YHWH or YHVH in English. It occurs 6,828 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Text critical editions of the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia.

The Tetragrammaton does not occur in any extant Greek manuscripts of the New Testament.
Extant Greek New Testament manuscripts contain the Greek word Kyrios (Lord) in Old Testament quotes where the Hebrew has the Tetragrammaton. Note the New Testament uses Greek kyrios for YHWH even, for example, when Christ reads the Isaiah scroll at the synagogue in Nazareth (Luke 4:17–19 reading Isaiah 61:1). The Watchtower  false reasons that the word Jehovah was originally in the New Testament, but removed without trace. This undermines the integrity of the entire Bible, as if such a significant word has been changed, what else is wrong? On the other hand, if “Jehovah” did not appear in the New Testament, the meaning of key New World Translation Scriptures change.
The fundamental flaw of the NWT is this insertion of the word Jehovah 237 times into the New Testament. There is no proof whatsoever to support this claim, as not a single ancient New Testament document has been found with YHWH in it. Several available manuscripts date back to this period. P47 dates prior to 300 A.D. and contains four uses of Kyrios from Revelation that the NWT translates as Jehovah. P66 dates from around 200 A.D. from John (written in 98 A.D) and contains five occurrences of Lord that appear in the NWT as Jehovah. Some manuscripts go back to within 25 years of John’s writings, yet none contains YHWH. 
There is much evidence that YHWH never appeared in the New Testament. Most obvious is the absence of YHWH in any of the 5,000 discovered Greek New Testament manuscripts. When adding the word Jehovah to the New Testament the Watchtower  lies . This is a serious misrepresentation of scripture. Doctrine should be formed by scripture; scripture should not be changed to support doctrine. Inaccurately inserting the word Jehovah into the New Testament changes the meaning of Jesus message to his followers in a number of ways.

One important affect is that the Watchtower attempts to use the word Jehovah to falsely prove that only Jehovah’s Witnesses will be saved. it is very clear that;
-Jesus is the name borne witness to.
Acts 9:15 “But the Lord said to him: “Be on your way, because this man is a chosen vessel to me to bear my name to the nations as well as to kings and the sons of Israel.”
Acts 1:8 “YOU will be witnesses of me (Jesus) both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de´a and Sa·mar´i·a and to the most distant part of the earth.”
-Jesus is the name used to expel demons.
Mark 9:38-39 “John said to him: “Teacher, we saw a certain man expelling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us.” But Jesus said: “Do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me;”
-Jesus is the subject of the kingdom good news.
Galatians 1:7 “But it is not another; only there are certain ones who are causing YOU trouble and wanting to pervert the good news about the Christ.”
-Jesus name invokes persecution, yet Jehovah’s Witnesses claim their persecution in the Name of Jehovah fulfills prophecy.
Matthew 24:9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.”
-Jesus name alone is the means of salvation.
Acts 4:10-12 “… let it be known to all of YOU and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz‧a‧rene′, whom YOU impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of YOU. This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.””

As their name implies, Jehovah’s Witnesses predominant focus is on preaching about Jehovah whilst the message of the New Testament was to be witnesses of Jesus.
The false  huge emphasis of the Watchtower on the name Jehovah detracts from the constant New Testament message of the Christ. Even when quoting scriptures such as Acts 4 the Watchtower manages to deflect attention from Jesus to Jehovah.

Falsely inserting Jehovah into the New Testament is an unacceptable Bible  manipulation   The effect is an inaccurate understanding of what Jesus taught. How did Jesus instruct the disciples to refer to God? Jesus repeatedly instructed his followers to address God as our Lord or our Heavenly Father (Mt 6:8-18, 7:21, Mk 14:36) and this is the way Jesus followers refer to God if they wish to follow Jesus example. In the Lord’s Prayer Jesus said to pray “Our Father in the heavens”.    http://jwfacts.com/pdf/the-tetragrammaton-and-the-christian-greek-scriptures.pdf
Jehovah’s Witnesses falsely claim that bibles remove YHWH (Tetragrammaton) from the Old Testament. The truth is, they have added the divine name in the New Testament where it is never found in the original Greek manuscripts, and blamed the Bible as being corrupted from the original where YHWH was once found. Rather than trashing their false doctrine, they trash the Bible!

What happens, then, when a writer of the New Testament quotes passages from the Old Testament in which the Tetragrammaton appears? In these instances, most translators use the word “Lord” rather than God’s personal name. The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures does not follow this common practice. It uses the name Jehovah 237 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, or New Testament. Jehovah’s name appears thousands of times in the Hebrew Scriptures. Bravo. However, There are over 5,000 Greek manuscript copies that we have in our possession today that make up our New Testament. *None* of them have the name of Jehovah in them, yet the NWT translators took it upon themselves to add it to their Bible over 230 times without any Biblical merit to do so. ‘ There are no real  Biblical scholars that favor the name of Jehovah being in the NT. Even the Watchtower itself admits the name never appears in the Greek. By means of Watchtower publications, Russell initially directed his adherents to be considered followers of Jesus. It was only later, under the leadership of Rutherford, that attention was  falsely shifted to Jehovah. The term “Jehovah’s Witnesses” was not adopted until 1931. Although the word Jehovah defines the Watchtower Organization in its current form, the significance of the use of the Name and the name Jehovah’s Witness was not introduced until over 50 years after the formation of the Watchtower Society.  Falsely inserting Jehovah into the New Testament is an unacceptable Bible  manipulation   The effect is an inaccurate understanding of what Jesus taught. How did Jesus instruct the disciples to refer to God? Jesus repeatedly instructed his followers to address God as our Lord or our Heavenly Father (Mt 6:8-18, 7:21, Mk 14:36) and this is the way Jesus followers refer to God if they wish to follow Jesus example. In the Lord’s Prayer Jesus said to pray “Our Father in the heavens”.    http://jwfacts.com/pdf/the-tetragrammaton-and-the-christian-greek-scriptures.pdf

The internet is full of people with false, hidden agendas, liars,,, who have all kind of false motives for their false teachings..  JW Yeah your topic.. is sucker bait to reach people.. you are not a real Christian  so what are you teaching…

A) you say that “I profess my faith in the living God” – who? Jesus Christ.. who was God form the foundation of the world, a part of the trinity?

B )  or the Jesus who became a god?

 C) and there is no trinity?

D) Do you also now believe that all the gifts of the Holy Spirit still exists even today?

E) that the Holy Spirit is God, a person, is part of the trinity? Like real Christians do…

F) and do you believe this John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. ( Jesus was not a god but the God)..

Well? I am waiting  for your replies.. not your false diversions, lies, slanders

“I will just  just say a prayer for you.” Dream on .. 

God does not hear the prayer of an Ungodly  persons  and their  love of me is also  impossible cause they  do not have the love of the Holy Spirit..

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2 Timothy 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

(1 Cor 5:12 KJV) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

(1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

(1 Cor 10:15 KJV) I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.

(1 Cor 14:29 KJV) Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

JW teach crap.. not the real Jesus  It is always evident that the mostly still liars, people claiming to be good persons, who try to enforce the one way rules on others, those even they do not practice, are still just liars and hypocrites.. and of course they do not want you to judge them, to know and expose this to any others.. But a person is known by the company they keep.. One having  bad company leads to one going to hell too.. tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are now.. a person is also know by what he does, and the values he or she have.. some people have bad values, some people falsely go extreme with good values..

Now real Biblical repentance evident and it includes s admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God,  and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition,   change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also  a personal, ongoing event. It is visible to all now too..

(Rev 18:4 KJV)  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Rev 18:5 KJV)  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven..

Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. “

But who am I to say? I’m not his judge”???

If you yourself now cannot judge what people are like so how can you see the devil then too?

You yourself are not Holy Spirit filled even then.. one needs to deal with that firstly.. Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments  of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person.. (2 Cor 2:11 KJV)  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

There is no such thing as living in a world in which individuals are not being judged by others for the actions that they take or what they say. Making a statement such as, “you cannot judge me”, is ludicrous.  A Christian person still can judge another Christian’s individual’s behavior or actions, writings, speech

The following is a list of twenty-two cult characteristics that will enable anyone to determine in five minutes what is and isn’t a cult.

•If the leader or leaders write their own material and claim that it is from God or “inspired by God” or “from the mouth of God” then they are a cult.

•If the leadership tells you that you can’t read anything written by any other church or religion and only can read what they write then it is a cult.

•If you are forbidden to speak to or read anything written by someone who has left the group for reasons of conscience or belief then it is most definitely a cult.

•If the leadership has to write its own version of the Bible and call it “improved” or “more accurate” and the use of that “translation” is unique to that religion then it is most definitely a cult.

•If personal choice and independent thought is considered to be “evil” then it is most definitely a cult.

•If asking difficult questions is discouraged then it is most definitely a cult.

•If, when finding a particular question difficult or impossible to answer you are told to just “have faith” or “wait on the Lord” then you are probably in a cult.

•If it is forbidden to disagree either privately or openly with the leadership on any point then it is most definitely a cult.

•If you are encouraged to sever ties with anyone not affiliated with your religion then it is most definitely a cult.

•If the group actively solicits membership it is probably a cult.

•If an interested person is only given enough information to pique their interest but not enough information to scare them away then it is most definitely a cult.

•If you are told to teach just “the good stuff” during the initial phase of a person “studying” with you then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If there are aspects of your teaching that are purposely kept hidden until the student is very far along in the indoctrination process then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If the members are instructed to be especially nice to new visitors then it is probably a cult.

•If the leadership teaches that they are the only ones with “the truth” and that everyone else is deceived then you are in a cult.

•If the members are encouraged to turn other members in for infractions then it is 100% most definitely a cult.

•If you are given a litany of rules and regulations to follow then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If your schedule is booked with group activities to the point that you have little or no time to yourself then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If you are told to have little or nothing to do with anyone, including close friends and family members, who choose to leave the group, then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If your leadership is nameless, mysterious, aloof, unapproachable, unaccountable or otherwise “nebulous” then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If your leadership doesn’t have to report their income to you or the government then you are most definitely in a cult.

•If higher education is considered evil and strongly discouraged by the leadership then you are most definitely in a cult.

How many of the above characteristics hit your religion? If it was more than five then you are probably in danger of being in a cult.

If you answered yes to ten or more than you are most definitely in a mind control cult.

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I am a Canadian, retired and I do have an Engineering degree, from Concordia University , Montreal 1968, plus I had also now worked as a Re/Max Realtor in Calgary too.

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