The bad critics again

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

>>Show me where Todd said “that God told him to get people to believe in the angel and not Jesus.”

thanks for illustrating clearly what I have written about today as well… https://postedat.wordpress.com/

(2 Cor 11:26 KJV)  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
 
And now dealing Todd Bentley who  rightfully feels that  it is necessary to defend himself against his critics and to answer some questions and some of the alleged controversies  plaguing his own ministry.
 
 These often distorted, false attacks now are critical even of three areas.
-Todd Bentley personally including his own spirituality, leadership
-The  poor associates of Todd Bentley
-The doctrines of Christian denomination of the Latter rain movement itself.
 
But firstly it is clearly hard to take now too many of these criticism seriously when they are biased, distorted, one sided bashings, false opponents, based often on false presumptions, false suppositions, false attacks, false accusations, straw arguments, and have  often been done clearly with hidden agendas, and thus they are now not rather even genuine, sincere, humble brethren offering their relevant, related points of views.
 
Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now,  is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
 
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attend these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
 
I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!
  
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
  
Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley 55 page download free for all.  Fresh Fire Ministries. Here is a link to the PDF file > Biblical Reasons to Receive God’s Glory and Give it Away in Power Evanglism  http://www.primewriter.com/LakelandC…pdf 

Todd Bentley

including also even

 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/

 

(2 Cor 11:26 KJV)  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
 
And now dealing Todd Bentley who  rightfully feels that  it is necessary to defend himself against his critics and to answer some questions and some of the alleged controversies  plaguing his own ministry.
 
 These often distorted, false attacks now are critical even of three areas.
-Todd Bentley personally including his own spirituality, leadership
-The  poor associates of Todd Bentley
-The doctrines of Christian denomination of the Latter rain movement itself.
  
This too often  whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents.
 
But first  it is clearly hard to take now too many of these criticism seriously when they are biased, distorted, one sided bashings, false opponents, based often on false presumptions, false suppositions, false attacks, false accusations, straw arguments, and have  often been done clearly with hidden agendas, and thus they are now not rather even genuine, sincere, humble brethren offering their relevant, related points of views.
 
Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now,  is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
 
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
 
I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humity, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.
 
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
 
Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley 55 page download free for all.  Fresh Fire Ministries. Here is a link to the PDF file > Biblical Reasons to Receive God’s Glory and Give it Away in Power Evanglism  http://www.primewriter.com/LakelandC…pdf
  
    
To be absolutely fair to all in the last 5 decades I personally  have seen no signifant spiritual, behaviorial differences between fundamental, Brethren, Baptists Preachers, and the Alliance, Pentacostal Preachers, or Catholic for me they were mostly all bad.
  

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 Responses to “Todd Bentley”

  1. Michael Says: June 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm    I take it you haven’t actually read any of the criticism?
  2. thenonconformer Says: June 22, 2008 at 8:48 pm    Michael if you make such lying, distorted, false posts it is not a wonder I would disregard rightfully your posts now too and had you also read my blogs you would not have made such a poor statement.. but thanks for illustrating clearly what I have written about here to all .

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This too often whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents.

I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics, and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY TO INSULT, ABUSE, LIE ABOUT THE OTHER CHRISTIANS?

I HAVE BEEN RECENTLY READING AGAIN A MAJORITY OF THE CRITICS OF THE LATTER DAY REVIVALS, and too clearly their often diverting back wrongfully the topic discussions, making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks is even THEIR typical unChristlike bulling Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude, and what else? is not the right approach from anyone and it does continue to reflect poorly on ALL OF THEM STILL too…

THE WAY THEY THEMSELVES DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO.

This personal ACT of THEIRS is also a poor example of any type of professing Christian for all to see on the net.

(Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

I too would rightfully see a sermon from even them all than hypocritically only hear it preached again from these critics.. it is time they firstly had applied the Bible for all to see.

Sow, show your love to others even here.. mandatory

One would even think this professing Christians sites are a place for a gathering of snakes, jokers, not real professing, decent, living Christians by the type of posts many write now on various topics even. If you profess to be a Christian time you acted like it still too..

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too

I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attend these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..

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(Rom 8:29 KJV)  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
 
(Rom 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
 

Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on various sites I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,

but clearly the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.
 
and some of the inacceptable responding bullies, bashers who try their false personal attacks on me now cause I had stepped on their toes, tyhey do not even know me well enough to make any kind of personal judgmental bashings  upon me never mind doing it now in public too
 
Secondly it is amazing how many so called Christian Internet Discussions sites are still control freaks, ostriches with hidden agendas and they do not post the Responses that show them truly in an unfavorable light..
 
so I merely post my posts even here anyway
 
Mind you there is a difference between unfair censorships and regulating appropriately the inadequate spews, comments..  but never the less let the prophets speak and let the other’s judge..
 
some sites that  I do like to make posts in.
 
posts even such as
 
I am really having a hard time trying to understand what part  Mary the mother of Jesus and others, whose husband was Joseph, has in a discussion of the trinity.. The trinity trio of the god head, new testament clearly excludes her and always has. She Mary was not present at man and earth’s creation or present during the period of old testament now too  and according to the Bible undeniably too! The catholic expounded definition of virgin Mary is clearly a false  add on to the Bible, New testament.
 
– 5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. Sadly undeniably most pastors who firstly should above all others they do not pray even one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day so no wonder they are embossed also  in bulling, abuses, controversies, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, divorce.
 
– The other day I went to visit a  local evangelical church, and when I got there the doors was close, even though the sign posted there had said services at 6.00 pm >it appears that they had switched to 7.00 pm services and no one had bothered to change the sign, either cause they did not care about any new visitors or ?? That was the same church where the senior pastor would not talk to me, say hello to me  on the street as well..
 
– >> We have seen over 5000 people trained in 80 days in evangelism – the real deal gospel and we want our nation to see a great harvest.
http://charismania.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/the-smiths-todd-bentley-and-one-moment-in-time-christianity
 
Now I have seen 3 separate great active evangelical pushes in 3 separate denominations firsthand, the Baptist and the Pentecostal, Alliance ones included.. but what had rightfully concerned me still was the serious leader’s, elders personal immorality and corruption within these churches, which any evangelical outreach still did not deal with!  Preaching the Gospel is still not an acceptable alternative to living it. “So in one of the churches the evangelical Baptist outreach leader had sexually propositioned me even.. me a married man, and the pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me,  and in the Pentecostal church the outreach pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me as well, in the process the church pastors were stealing money, abusing funds etc..” what were these churches now converting people to in reality? Unacceptable religious abuse. Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons. Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap..   
  
 Colossians 3:12  Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;Colossians 3:13  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.Colossians 3:14  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counselling divorce,  gossiping, slandering, lying,  and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there  was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship  with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counselling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.But eventually  one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

(Micah 3:6 KJV)  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.