Ascensia.ca : Contact Us

Attention Health Ministers, Ministers of Consumer protection

 

It is amazing that Bayer’s phone line for such a critical disease as diabetes  now too is only 9 to 9 and 7 week days while their competitor offers 24 hours services seven days a week.  For 100 dollars per month per customer for their test strips  you would think they all could give a good support service too?

On top of that firstly falsely to save money many firms  wrongfully fail to see that most people after the age of 45 start to tend  have serious eye sight problem, they even with glasses cannot at all read the too often small, reduced prints, labels  including with the medical products now too. Wow 

 By also not sharing our serious, real concerns, and also insights, gains we are falsely contributing , participating in the deaths of others too it seems. With the valid comfort, help , advice, instructions that we even do receive from others, we next are also able to help, share this with others, for sadly  many people die needlessly as a result of their own ignorance, and ignorance still too often is not a valid excuse too.

General Recommendations for People with Diabetes

  • Enjoy a variety of foods
  • Choose whole grain bread and cereals over white bread and processed cereals
  • Include vegetables and fruits in your daily diet
  • Choose lower-fat dairy products, leaner meats, and foods prepared with little or no fat
  • Achieve and maintain a healthy body weight by enjoying regular physical activity  and healthy eating
  • Limit salt, alcohol, and caffeine 

 

 

On top of that most people should, admit, that diabetes and heart problems are related, and when one has one one tends to eventually have the others, and they now should try to stop that from happen ing by eating proper meals,  proper foods, getting proper exercises and learning how to deal beneficially with encountered stress as well as getting daily enough proper sleep.

 Read my own experiences on the subject: Bayers CRAPPY DIABETES EQUIPMENT 

 

 

This misleading add by a clearly disreputable company has now refused to acknowledge  my emails, claiming they likely were accidently deleted, and has refused to answer any of my   related. questions to them  and  note any of them with a reply of “I am sorry but I cannot help you here”.
 
My questions was how many other Bayer Customers also have defective Bayer diabetes meters, how many of them have also been recalled, and how many of then are defective? and why is that?
  
THEY COULD NOT ANSWER ONE QUESTION OF MINE.  
  
HOW MANY OTHER DIABETES PATIENTS NOW GET THE UNACCEPTABLE SAME POOR SERVICES THAT I HAVE NOW WITNESSED TOO and the answer is? 
 
“Contact Us Site and services are for Canadian residents only. We are always available to help you. Please get in touch with us either by telephone or online. Telephone, If you need help with your AscensiaT or Glucometer® diabetes care product or want to find the store closest to you that sells our products, please call the Diabetes Helpline at 1-800-268-7200. We are available from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. EST, seven days a week. Online Your feedback is important to us. Please let us know what you think of this site and fill out the Site Feedback Form. https://www.bayerdiabetes.ca/eng/contactus/index.asp   We invite your questions, comments and suggestions. Send an e-mail to: feedback@ascensia.ca. If you have questions of a medical nature, your health care team is always your best source of information and advice.”  https://www.bayerdiabetes.ca/eng/contactus/index.asp
 
These diabetes gluecose meters are distributed in Hospitals by working nurses at the hospitals, clearly on the TAKE from Bayer, pushing the Bayer products, and by drug stores.
 
I talked face to face with my family doctor at the Hospital who said Bayer’s diabetes glucose meters are known to be often defective.
 
But some how they fail to tell the public and their users that info,
 
Why? 
 
When I asked Bayers support services by Phone as to how my 2 Bayers glucose meters can be both so wrong.. I take the even  same blood sample.. I next get different results from the same meter even..  On the competitor meter   it says 6.8 firstly and next it says 9.8 in a matter of seconds too (The Ultra meter lets you make a metter adjustement for the type of  test  strips that you get monthl, and it get, solves this Problemed) . While the Bayer meters  say 13.4, and even 22.4.. when it should have said 7.5, and while  the Bayer company says they test  all their glucose meters before delivery.. but what provision do they have now  for testing the after next when being used by the patients rather? If your meter is defective they will replace it.. how in the world are you supposed to know it is really defective in the first place? I found out over 6 months later they were defective the hard way too.. Bayers say their meters are very popular and I said to them that was cause most people wrongfully do not know how crappy their meters are are and Bayer’s follow services now too..
     
Because Canada’s Bayer ascensia.ca would not give me  REPLY  by phone or email I contacted them also in the UK
 
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: Online form submission
Thank you for your enquiry. This has been forwarded to a member of staff who will contact you as soon as possible.
Kind regards,
Customer Services
They have yet to get back to me
  
When I  also do see a note likes this,” Due to recent high volume of e-mail messages, your response may be delayed.” It still generally means their equipment, services are unreliable and they have loads of customer complaints. I have often got it from the bad service department at  Bell Sympatico. 
 
 For 100 dollars per month per customer for thier test strips  you would think they all could give a good support service too?
To  date no one from Bayer got back to me yet about any of this. Why?
 
I had also contacted their competitor too, but  their phone lines were too busy and they next promised to return my calls which they did at least a few hours later and  they clearly told me that using the meters and test strips was not a simple event, some  real reading, maximizing oneself,  following  their manual instructions, was required  
 
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Ascensia.ca :
Dear Visitor:
Thank you for visiting the LifeScan Web site and for taking the time to write to us.  This automatic response is to notify you that your message has been received by LifeScan’s Customer Service Department.  Due to recent high volume of e-mail messages, your response may be delayed.  We apologize for any inconvenience resulting from this delay, and encourage you to contact our Customer Services Department at the number below if this is an urgent matter.
 
I have switched over to Ultra – Life Scan who are the Number one in Canada and in the US.. Their services in comparison to Bayer now in my real experiences is like heaven compared to hell. They gave me an additional new meter, they gave me free cable to connect their ultra meters to the computer, and software to measure my test results,within 4 days too, all free, and they were kind on the phone always, called me back and talk to me. They have the additional aspect of anyone at home now being able to test the accuracy of the meters supplied with their Ultra meters too. That is the kind of real support I expected from Bayer and all others here too.
 
Understandably since my past disastrous   unacceptable problems with Bayer glucose meters, twice bitten now I am even  more cautious,   I next get different   results from the  Life Scan Ultra meters even..  where  it said  6.8 firstly and   next it said  9.8  using the same blood, and the test was one a few seconds apart. Fortunately  Life Scan Ultra though provides a control, test solution
 
Life Scan is committed to providing customers with quality products and caring service and life scan has done so too. I contacted then  directly by phone next and they   had next effectively took all the necessary steps to rectify  the problems.. replacing the defective strips.. for  it seems the test strip batch themselves now were defective and I understand such things can happen.. it was great that Life Scan has a test procedure to measure the meters effectiveness periodically, and has also the adequate follow up services too. The whole experience was great for me I learned how to check the meters accuracy results too.  All Much much appreciated. .
 
 

Based on their past treatment, rather abuse of me Bayers  are dreaming if I will recommend their  products, rather I talk to pharmacy managers directly and tell them what my doctors told me, Contour is known to give often defective readings..
 

 

 
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The Sarah Palin versus Joe Bilden live TV debate

The Republican Governor Sarah Palin versus Democrat Senator Joe Bilden live US Vice presidents TV debate
 
 
Palin and Biden spar in VP debate but neither deals a knockout Los Angeles Times –  KEEPING IT POLITE: Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Sarah Palin shake hands after their debate in St. Louis. In the tart but mostly peaceable matchup, Biden largely went after presidential candidate John McCain, whom Palin repeatedly cited as a
Analysis: Palin gets back on track, but Biden wins debate CNN
Palin and Biden Are Cordial but Pointed New York Times
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The Tale of Two Debates
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By Andrew Romano The “Showdown in St Louis” between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin might more accurately be called the “Showdowns in St Louis”.
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Palin turns aggressive in faceoff with Biden Toronto Star
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I watched the very same debate on TV live, and next I was astonished at the different people’s various opinions, even though I had honestly watched also the same debate. It was clear to me that CNN was bashing Sarah Palin , trying to falsely influence other people’s opinion negatively too. This was very dishonest, unprofessional of them still too. SO ARE THE OTHERS LIKE TIME WHO ALSO DO THIS.

 

LET US ALL STOP ELECTING LIARS OR THE ALCOHOLICS

 
Hey I myself was surpised next how popular this post is and many people have read it too.
 
Most of us seem to have a really bad habit of electing liars, electing the people who tell us what we want to hear, AND MANY OF THEM ARE LIARS WHO TELL US WHAT THEY THINK WE WANT TO HEAR SO THEY CAN BE ELECTED.
 
Now with the upcoming election this week I was asked by my neighbors what Political party  would I NOW vote for. Now that still really required some work on my part to find out.
 
Now it  would it no be really great if we now had really next  elected decent, qualified, non alcoholic persons as well  who really care more than just about the job, about being hired, the money, winning, the office prestige and  if now we did elect  a genuine, good, adequate politician rather instead  who  really did care  about the good welfare of the people in the riding in reality.. AND WOULD    WORK ON THEIR BEHALF MAINLY AND NOT INSTEAD FOR THEIR OWN OR THEIR PARTY’S BENEFIT MAINLY.
 
Now here’s a basic secret I have learned, how they  the political candidates, and their receptionists now do treat me now is generally how they do also next generally treat the others, and so once again,  as I have often done that before too, I thus had decided to visit firsthand some of the local political candidates, to specially visit their campaign office in our riding.. after all I was honestly trying to determine who  I would vote for.. all I do is say hello, watch and listen as to how they respond, and I do evaluate what they do say too.
 
And many of you all already know that after my last week  run in in my own home with a bad local existing main party candidate representative , who also is just another false spin doctor, and  bad control freak, for certainty now I would not vote for  them or recommend them.
 
So next the first federal political candidate I visited who was the closest one on my journey, and she also now happened to be in, and she welcomed me personally, but within a short while it became very clear to me she only mainly cared about winning over the others, and she only cared about what I could do for her, not what she could do for me or the people in her riding  but now I certainly could not vote thus for her in honesty too. We really do not need another imposter, pretender, figure head in office.
 
So next I visited an independent Candidate, and it next  turns out he was apparently a  formal party reject, there must have been good reason why the leader of that party supposedly did not approve of him as a candidate, even though he had supposedly worked for the same party  for 25 years now. The receptionist said to me that I should wait now till he would be back, very shortly and he would like to talk to me. An hour later she phoned him and he was really too busy to see me , but his sister, one of his main campaign workers had now showed up, and she also was not interested in talking to me, she too made it clear she had no use for me, all she wanted was to win.. a loser not a winner.. so he too was not getting my support.  Incidently I had  next met the same candidate in a local church bazaar sale and he blamed his own secretary next  for being   the cause of him not being able to see me before… I have been seeing his poste nig shot in my whole district, but even the mugh shot was a false one, taken a while back, he looked in reality small, weak and very aged.
 
How come these people do not understand that a personal referral is one the best way to win.. for the costly advertising is very ineffective still.
 
The next Candidate I reviewed she admitted she was only a part timer, she was doing politics part time because she had a main interest in having a financially successful career.. and we do not need that kind of prostitute in office now too.
 
Yes it seems I would really still regret if any of these persons would be elected next. We have had enough political  losers already. It is hard to determine the best, right candidate for me in my area.
 

Republicans and the Democrats give social welfare to rich persons

 

 

The vote against the measure was 228 to 205, with 133 Republicans joining 95 Democrats in opposition. The bill was backed by 140 Democrats and 65 Republicans.

Supporters vowed to try to bring the rescue package up for consideration again as soon as possible, perhaps late Wednesday or Thursday, but there were no definite plans to do so.

“Ronald Reagan is back, and he is you Friends, conservatives often complain that no one has ever risen to take the place of Ronald Reagan in our government. But Ronald Reagan is back, and he is you! His spirit has never once left us. His spirit was alive and well when you stood up last year and opposed the bipartisan amnesty bill that you knew the Gipper wouldn’t approve. He was here again today in our Congress during the vote that failed to pass a bill that would have made slaves of every one of us and ended free market capitalism forever in the USA. Fox News said legislators received 999 calls out of 1,000 opposing the bailout. Fox commentators didn’t look too happy about that and the results of today’s vote. I imagine many of them, like Neil Cavuto, are heavily invested in stocks. (Isn’t it interesting that, although almost 100% of us oppose the bailout, Fox News continues to drone on about how important it is for the taxpayer to foot the bills for the crooks in government. Looks like conservatives have broken with their task master). I realize that the stock market does not like this, but look, I have stock too, and I know that if we show these lazy pandering politicians we won’t let them enslave us, our children will grow up in a better, safer world.  “http://laiglesforum.com/2008/09/29/ronald-reagan-is-back-and-he-is-you/

 

 

 

 

 

Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Federal Conservative Party of Canada

   A Conservative loser is still a big loser 
No diffference between a bad lieberal and a bad Conservative now too
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty joined   brewery manager Colin O’Brien, and supply director Paul Armstrong at the Guinness brew house. http://www.canada.com/Stephen+Harper+Irish+adventures/8532787/story.htmlharper_guiness 

Fundamentals evangelists have been proven right, Alcohol is dangerous, leads also to cancer. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/

 

1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your  adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may  devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions  are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.10 But the God of all  grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye  have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 11 To  him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

The CANADIAN conservative federal government itself rarely it seems takes the proper lead, leadership now too. Prime Minister Stephen  Harper has never formed a majority government yet Canada’s prime Minister himself Stephen  Harper,  Harper has been drooling for his majority now for many  years, the leader claims to have a majority government and he now disregards the majority of the Members of Parliament, and the citizens of Canada’s wishes, desires too,  he is still  running his minority Parliament as if he were the leader of a majority, tends to bury religious beliefs to win a hopeful real majority government not surprisingly thus  failed again in an attempt to  win a majority government.  As we are well aware, mo one is are not going to form a majority federal government with the majority support of the citizens of both Quebec and Ontario also now. You next cannot hope to have a majority government as Harper keeps on finding by failing to look after the good welfare of all the citizens of Canada. Beating on minorities really doesn’t make a majority government more possible.  A bad Conservative for many in Canada  is just as disgusting as a bad Lieberal. You can really tell as to how bad they are firstly by how they respond to the citizens letters mailed  to them as well.
 
Someone representing the  Conservative Party of Canada came to my home, note to my home, and said to me he was here to get me to vote for Stephen Harper and the Conservatives. He next had refused to answer any of my questions firstly.  I had asked him if it was true that Stephen Harper gave bottles of wine and wine glasses to the Prime Minister of Australia. I asked him also if he Stephen Harper professes to be an evangelical Christian of the Christian Missionary Alliance Church now too? No answer. I asked him how could a born again professing evangelical like Stephen Harper be giving out alcohol to others when it is clearly a historical, general, accepted biblical fact that fundamental evangelicals are abstainers and do not drink wine, alcohol now? The Canadian federal Conservative Party supporter he lied and said that what I said about Stephen Harper was not true. Stephen Harper was good person. The Conservative party supporter he next started to lecture me as to how and what I there could and could not talk about now to him . I next told him that he was standing on my property falsely lecturing me, dictating to me  as to what I cannot  talk about, what I cannot do even in my own home,  dream on! I asked him directly was  he now also   another despotic dictator like the established fact, behavior of the prime minister of Canada, Stephen Harper. He the  clearly red necked Conservative party supporter then turned red with embracement and rudely said he has to leave and immediately departed with his tail between his legs without still  answering one question of mine to him too.  He the Conservative party supporter wants me to support this bad political Conservative party now when I see firsthand how he  even lies, abused me in my own home too? Dream on.
3 of my neighbors I had talked with directly today said they would vote for none of the parties for they are all equally bad, even those who had voted Conservative before too 
 
 
Needless to say the Conservatives lost heavily in my riding and rightfully so..
 

PM Stephen Harper’s province…
Booze, gambling revenues now worth more than gas royalties to Stelmach government
http://ourcanadiancontent.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/booze-gambling-revenues-now-worth-more-than-gas-royalties-to-stelmach-government 
  
 
        
 
 
Control freaks Conservatives .. ‘Keep them out!’ Mounties stop media from asking Tory questions
OTTAWA — It’s a blurry, democratically dangerous no-man’s-land that governments and RCMP spokespeople do not like to publicly explore. The line between legitimate RCMP security duties and the media management imperatives of a politically sensitive Prime Minister’s Office appeared to be scuffed once again this week on the election trail. Mounties protecting Prime Minister Stephen Harper during a campaign event in Surrey, B.C., were ordered Tuesday evening to stop reporters from approaching a high-profile Tory candidate. “Keep them out,” Harper aide Ray Novak shouted at the RCMP security detail as journalists approached Dona Cadman. CTV’s Rosemary Thompson was literally yanked aside by one Mountie as she approached the retreating group – which did not include the prime minister.
Cadman, a Conservative candidate, is famous for sparking bribery allegations against her party by telling a journalist last year that her dying husband, former Reform and Independent MP Chuck Cadman, claimed to have been offered a million-dollar insurance policy to change his vote in Parliament. It’s an unresolved storyline the Conservatives, understandably, don’t want pursued during an election campaign. Cadman, who has dodged questions from the national media before in the campaign, told a local community newspaper Wednesday she’s concentrating on her own back yard. “We’re talking to the local media, which is much more important than going national or regional,” she said. The incident followed an earlier episode in the campaign’s first week when the RCMP was employed to thwart a CTV camera crew in St. Eustache, Que., on the day the Tories suspended campaign spokesman Ryan Sparrow. “I want that camera out of there,” Harper spokeswoman Carolyn Stewart Olsen told a Mountie, who somewhat apologetically obliged. But is it within the RCMP’s mandate to stop the media from doing its job?
 Several officers matter-of-factly said they were acting on orders from the PMO – although the official RCMP line, delivered after the incident became a major media story, was that hotel management sought the eviction. Many on Parliament Hill believe the PMO’s use of RCMP security to thwart reporters has increased under a Harper government that is obsessed with communications control. Stories abound, for instance, of security officers stopping camera cut-away shots from non-PMO-approved positions. But the most infamous case of RCMP deploying its resources for essentially communications reasons came under the watch of former Liberal prime minister Jean Chretien at the 1997 APEC summit in Vancouver. An inquiry into the pepper-spraying of protesters concluded that the Mounties had “succumbed to government influence and intrusion in an area where such influence and intrusion were inappropriate.” Testimony at the inquiry suggested government officials were consumed with the poor optics of large demonstrations. “By whatever educational or other communications means available, the RCMP must instill in its officers … that they are to brook no intrusion or interference whatever from government officials,” inquiry commissioner Ted Hughes concluded. It would appear to be an inquiry forgotten not just by the Mounties and current government, but by the Liberals in opposition.
The Liberal campaign war-room issued a news release Wednesday decrying Tory heavy-handedness. “The job of the RCMP is not to prevent the Conservative party from being embarrassed,” said the Liberal party release. “They are there to protect the prime minister against genuine physical threats and they should never be used as a political tool.” http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g6YesTXAYfsanGLSDxXgDxHF_vWw
We already know what a liar, dictator, control freak  the PM is..

Seems he wants power so much he sells even his soul to the Devil..

“With the Liberal party emasculated and the left wing vote split among three parties, the Conservatives should be well into majority territory by this point in the campaign. It should be a cake-walk.

However, while support for the Conservatives has, at times, touched on the benchmark 40 per cent level typically required for a majority government, the party’s numbers remain stubbornly in minority territory.

The reasons are not clear, but it does appear that Canadians are not yet comfortable with giving Stephen Harper a majority mandate.

The most recent Canadian Press Harris-Decima poll has 43 per cent of respondents reporting they have a positive impression of Harper, which is 10 points lower than the beginning of the campaign. (Liberal leader Stephane Dion’s favourable impression remains level at 32 per cent.) Nationally, the Conservatives have the support of 37 per cent of respondents, while the Liberals are at 24 per cent, the NDP at 18 and the Greens are at 10 per cent.

What is it about Harper that results in a less favourable impression of him the more Canadians see of him? Didn’t they like the nice fluffy vests? The musings about family life? The professed love of piano music?

It seems that Canadians are uneasy about a possible mean streak that Harper is keeping hidden, one that could result in a governing climate along the controversial Mike Harris PCs in Ontario in the 1990s.

Harper has flashed evidence of such a trait in his battles with the media. And — locally at least — there is evidence that dissent will not be tolerated. Resistance, even among his own party, is apparently futile.

After Radio-Canada broadcast an interview Sept. 18 with Sudbury Conservative candidate Gerry Labelle, he issued a press release the same day recanting some statements, offering a “complete retraction” and pledging his full support to “Prime Minister Stephen Harper, his cabinet and this Conservative government.” Labelle’s statement read more like a capitulation than a retraction.”  http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1222777

CALGARY – Opposition parties are demanding Calgary Conservative incumbent
Lee Richardson immediately resign for controversial comments that suggested
immigrants are to blame for much of the crime in Canada.

In an interview with a Calgary weekly newspaper published Thursday,  Richardson is quoted as saying many crimes aren’t committed by people who  “grew up next door” and immigrants aren’t as law-abiding.  “Particularly in  big cities, we’ve got people that have grown up in a different culture, and  they don’t have the same background in terms of the stable communities we  had 20, 30 years ago in our cities . . . and don’t have the same respect for  authority or people’s person or property,” Richardson told Fast Forward  Weekly, when asked about recent gun violence in Calgary.  “Talk to the  police. Look at who’s committing these crimes,” added Richardson, the Tory  candidate in Calgary Centre. “They’re not the kid that grew up next door.” Richardson later said he regretted the comments and that he misspoke.  Calgary Centre NDP candidate Tyler Kinch immediately demanded that  Richardson resign from the campaign, or that Conservative Leader Stephen  Harper fire him – a sentiment also shared by the federal Liberals.   “We  must expect more out of our community leaders,” Kinch told reporters on  Thursday. “Mr. Richardson’s comments are hurtful, unfair, untrue and  unproductive . . . Lee Richardson must resign.” Liberal public safety critic  Ujjal Dosanjh called Richardson’s comments “disgraceful” and urged Harper to  turf him.  “If Prime Minister Harper does not take action and fire his  candidate one can only assume he condones such attitudes. It’s clear that  the old Reform Party view towards immigration is still alive and well in  this Conservative party,” Dosanjh said in a statement. http://www.canada.com/topics/news/features/decisioncanada/story.html?id=0add4a8f-03ee-48dd-9538-dd4d3762d395
The liar and the liars would falsely have you believe that there was no crime in Alberta before the immigrants came.. Rememeber that one of the first RCMP outpost in Canada historcially was in Calgary, Alberta the major home of crooks, thieves, cattle rustlers. Now it is the home of drug pushers, car thieves, white collar criminals.
The majority of Albertan citizens should resign, for supporting MP   Richardson’s views, it is clear that 70 percent of Albertan are not only self centered, selfish, but yes racists as well.. while Albertan’s claim to be Albertan most of them are new immigrants from other part of Canada, the world, including the Prime Minister of Canada now himself, Stephen Harper, and they  all in greed mostly have come to Alberta seeking jobs because of Alberta oil  and gas supplies.. but few get rich for the cost of living is too high.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/how-many-rich-people-in-calgary-edmonton-alberta/
 
see also
 
 
Reality today is that  besides cheap words, more likely broken promises, useless   Canada’s  pretentious Ostrich Conservative Finance Minister  Flaherty still presently offers no viable, real, effective solutions to help the thousands already laid off, and Canada’s present economic meltdown, the people also who will lose their homes due to foreclosures too.
 
 (Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20   Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21   Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Col 3:5 KJV)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:6   For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
 

Pastors do not have to break the law.

 
  
“Endorsing from the Pulpit Pastors launch challenge of IRS rules on endorsements.   
 
 Pastor Gus Booth remembers when he used to simply encourage his congregation of 150 in Warroad, Minn., to vote each Election Day. Now, he thinks it’s important to tell them which candidate should get their vote. On Sunday, as part of the “Pulpit Initiative” organized by an Arizona-based conservative Christian legal group, Booth is set to join dozens of clergy nationwide in challenging Internal Revenue Service rules that prohibit churches from politicking by supporting or opposing candidates. “If we can tell you what to do in the bedroom, we can certainly tell you what to do in the voting booth,” said the Minnesota minister, an evangelical leader of a nondenominational church, who expects to endorse Republican John McCain during his “Pulpit Freedom Sunday” sermon. “The voting booth is not some sort of sacred cow that you can’t talk about. You’re supposed to bring the gospel into every area of life.” The Alliance Defense Fund announced the initiative last May as a way to challenge IRS rules that date to 1954. ADF spokesman Greg Scott said the organization contacted “pastors, priests and rabbis from every major denomination,” and knows of 33 clergy in 23 states who intend to take part on Sunday. At least one clergyman who was contacted joined in filing a complaint against the initiative with the IRS. “We’re basically aiming to get these rules declared unconstitutional so that pastors have the right to speak freely from the pulpit without fear of punishment,” said Dale Schowengerdt, legal counsel for the ADF. “http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/septemberweb-only/139-41.0.html
 
“Pulpit Initiative About Freedom, not Politics
 
The purpose of the Alliance Defense Fund’s Pulpit Initiative is to restore the right of pastors to speak freely from the pulpit without fear of punishment by the government for doing what churches do: speak on any number of cultural and societal issues from a biblical perspective. The purpose of the Pulpit Initiative is not – as some have said to confuse the issue – about whether pastors should or should not “endorse” candidates. The issue with which ADF is concerned is over who regulates what may be said from the pulpit.

So, the Pulpit Initiative is not about…

· turning the church into a Political Action Committee
· allowing contributions to candidates
· any particular candidate or political party
· “political” speech
· endorsing or opposing candidates

The Pulpit Initiative is…

· a bold defense of the First Amendment’s Establishment, Free Exercise, and Free Speech clauses
· about protecting core religious expression
· only related to what a pastor says from his pulpit, for example, on a Sunday morning (i.e., not about voter guides, candidate appearances, or other “political” activities)

Certainly, congregations and a church’s leadership can tell pastors they don’t want names of candidates spoken from the pulpit. But that is very different from government censorship. To government regulators, today’s “Gospel” may well be words that are tomorrow’s “politics.” ADF has already defended Americans in many cases where publicly preaching words straight from the Gospel has led to censorship…and even jail.  The bottom line is that no enforcement agency of the federal government should be telling a pastor what he can or cannot say from his pulpit about the Bible and his church’s teaching on the issues of the hour – even if the pastor’s sermon applies Scripture and church teaching to candidates and elections. Such agencies certainly cannot condition tax-exempt status–a status churches have always been constitutionally guaranteed since our founding–on the surrender of cherished First Amendment rights. In fact, for 166 years, churches freely preached directly on political candidates’ qualifications for office. That was no problem when the Constitution was signed, or when the first Commissioner of Internal Revenue was appointed in 1862, or when the federal income tax was authorized by the 16th Amendment in 1913. Nor were churches transformed into political machines. When the IRS code was amended in 1954 to ban “intervention” in political campaigns, it was an act of political retaliation by then-Sen. Lyndon Johnson against two anti-communist groups. It had nothing to do with “church politicking,” and scholars agree that churches were not the target of the regulation. ADF has the U.S. Constitution and the weight of American history on its side. Those who oppose the Pulpit Initiative have yet to make one constitutionally-derived argument against it. It is ironic that they laud the “separation of church and state” in opposition to the Pulpit Initiative, but by opposing the initiative, are asking for continued government control and censorship of a pastor’s sermon.The pulpit is no place for government regulators.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2008/09/pulpit_initiative_about_freedo.html

Pastors do not have to break the law. They can merely live by faith in God to provide and now discontinue from giving out tax receipts on all donations and thus be free to speak as any ordinary citizen can. The Bible does not prohibit them from doing this now as well   like Rev George Mueller did too.

“I was surprised at how many clergy are willing to go back on their institution’s promise to comply with the IRS 501c3 laws that provide guidelines for nonprofits on staying publically neutral in order to benefit from tax exempt status.Need a refresher?  Here are the IRS laws for non-profits regarding the Restriction of Politcal Campaign Intervention.  By flagrantly violating these restrictions, those clergy might as well buy all of their home furniture and ask to have it tax free or all of their family’s clothes and say it’s tax free– just pay for it and present the tax free certificate for your religious institution because those are also restrictions.This is not leading by example, but to the contrary, instead of working to change the laws those 33 (and plenty more besides them) pastors are proud to break the law.  How do the parishoners explain those values to their kids?  Spitting in the face of the law by advocating a candidate from the pulpit is even more difficult than explaining a personal failure of judgment by a clergyperson because  the religious institution itself is defying the law of the land. Perhaps the participants of the Pulpit Initiative could benefit from learning a Jewish law concept: dina de-malkhuta dina, when the law of the land takes precedence over anything else. 
 
Here is a short piece from MyJewishLearning.com as part of an article on business ethics and paying taxes:  Taxes and Tax Evasion   Considering the scope of Jewish business law, it is not surprising that it also has a clear opinion regarding tax evasion. Eighteen hundred years ago the [Talmudic sage] Shemuel established the legal principle that in civil matters dina d’malkhuta dina—“the law of the land is the law” (B.T. Bava Kama 113a). In its discussion of this principle, the Talmud specifically includes taxation as a secular law that must be followed. This, for example, is the way Maimonides summarizes this law (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Theft 5:11):“[…] but a tax fixed by the king of 33% or 25% or any fixed sum… a person who avoids paying such a tax is a transgressor because he is stealing the king’s portion, regardless of whether the king is Jewish or not.”Of course, these clergy don’t really follow what the Talmud says, but the idea that such a concepts exists and has for thousands of years should be a wake-up call for these people. No doubt the government has quietly avoided prosecuting many offenders of the 501c3 laws for a variety of reasons.  “

 

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