In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal by God, so they too are ignorant, they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play today in Christ’s Church. Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.

More helps? great links, see













-Does God speak to you? http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/does-god-speak-to-you/

-God still speaks outside of the Bible as well  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/god-still-speaks-outside-of-the-bible-as-well/

-THE PROMISE of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit IS FOR YOU http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-promise-of-the-outpouring-of-the-holy-spirit-is-for-you/

-Anointed Christian believers http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/anointed-christian-believers/

-Anointed Continued http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed-continued/

-Jesus Christ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/tag/jesus-christ/?vm=r

-The Church of Jesus Christ http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-church-of-jesus-christ/

-Alive, alive my Jesus is alive for evermore http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/alive-alive-my-jesus-is-alive-for-evermore/

-The true Church of Jesus Christ http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/the-true-church-of-jesus-christ/

-Pentecostals http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/pentecostals/

-God has set us free http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/god-has-set-us-free/

-Jesus can give us a fresh start everyday even in all things https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/jesus-can-give-us-a-fresh-start-everyday-even-in-all-things/

-The Holy Spirit’s anointing http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/the-holy-spirits-anointing/

-A SABBATH REST OR A GODLY REST? http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/a-sabbath-rest-or-a-godly-rest/

-True Christians Are Holy Ghost Baptized http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/true-christians-are-holy-ghost-baptized/

-Why God Used D. L. Moody By R. A. Torrey http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/why-god-used-d-l-moody-by-r-a-torrey/

-The Holy Spirit is the mind of Christ http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-holy-spirit-is-the-mind-of-christ/

-The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

-The restoration of http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/the-restoration-of/

-The essential Political, Relgious, Christian truths https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-essential-political-relgious-christian-truths/

-Worship Him by giving http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/worship-him-by-giving/

-The gift of discernment https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/the-gift-of-discernment/

-Righteous In Christ Alone! http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/

-The Supremacy of Jesus Christ http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/supremacy-of-jesus-christ/

The Promises OF Eternal Life by Jesus Christ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

-Some people are realy lucky.. they experience  Jesus http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/

-How do you recognize if a person is a true Christian, or what  is a Christian? http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/how-do-you-recognize-if-a-person-is-a-true-christian-or-what-is-a-christian/

-Once Saved Always Saved ? Can you still lose your salvation in  Jesus Christ? https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/once-saved-always-saved-can-you-still-lose-your-salvation-in-jesus-christ/

-Bad Pastors, bad deacons, bad elders = bad church https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

-Hireling http://thenonconformer.yolasite.com/index/hireling

-Many persons now they are trying to change  others http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

-About those that hate me and thee wrongfully http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/about-those-that-hate-me-and-thee-wrongfully/

-Laying of hands, Impartation, Breathe of the Spirit,  Anointings, Anointed http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/

-They realy have not been Baptized yet by the Lord Jesus Christ  and his Holy Spirit http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/they-realy-have-not-been-baptized-yet-by-the-lord-jesus-christ-and-his-holy-spirit/

-They ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/they-ceased-not-to-teach-and-preach-jesus-christ/

-The power in the name of jesus http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/the-power-in-the-name-of-jesus/

-The need for binding and loosening related to Satan, his evil  spirits. http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/the-need-for-binding-and-loosening-related-to-satan-his-evil-spirits/

-The Pentecostal Movement https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

-My biggest regrets http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/my-biggest-regrets/

-You cannot judge me https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/you-cannot-judge-me/

-Pride leads to destruction and humility to honour.. What  motivates many persons these days? https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/pride-leads-to-destruction-and-humility-to-honour-what-motivates-many-persons-these-days/

-The ostrich form of Christianity that contradicts the Bible http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/the-ostrich-form-of-christianity-that-contradicts-the-bible/

-It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man  to hear the song of fools http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/t-is-better-to-hear-the-rebuke-of-the-wise-than-for-a-man-to-hear-the-song-of-fools/

– WHO IS JESUS CHRIST – IS HE A JEW, GENTILE OR NEITHER NOW? http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/who-is-jesus-christ-is-he-a-jew-gentile-or-neither-now/

-What does the word chosen mean in the Bible? http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

-Jews, Arabs, None of them politically correct. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/

-Now why was Jesus even so angry with the Pharisees https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/now-why-was-jesus-even-so-angry-with-the-pharisees/

-About those Jews, persons who still falsely refuse to  acknowledge openly Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

-Sheep or trouble maker? https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/trouble-maker-or-a-timid-sheep/

Each one of us needs to live by faith in God as a provider for all of our needs too
  1 Ki 17:3  Get thee hence, and turn thee eastward, and hide thyself by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan. 4  And it shall be, that th…ou shalt drink of the brook; and I have commanded the ravens to feed thee there. :5  So he went and did according unto the word of the LORD: for he went and dwelt by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan. 6  And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning, and bread and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook.
Note this the first rules in helping others is they must want your help, must ask for it, and God confirmed that you should help them as wel Feeling sorry, pity for someone is not enough.. as a Church elder I had 30 people in a month come to me for help.. and I can say that when iI first prayed about it God next told me he was not going to help 15 of those persons.. cause they were not doing his will.. being rebels.. Now for the last 50 years after I  had prayed in secret as per Jesus- God’s instruction to us… God had supplied all of my needs.. Men ought to pray. not Beg.. .
Psa 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. :2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. :3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.:4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away .
I used to help everyone.. but God put a stopped to it.. he God said many people are stealing from you .. and your help to them is useless still as well.. i obey God now. . Once as a Chruch elder i had 30 people in a month come to me for help.. and i can say that when i first prayed about it God next told me he was not going to help 15 of those persons.. cause they were not doing his will.. being rebels..  
I  too am getting tired of the person wanting to be friends and them next contacting me ASAP and begging for money on th enet…  God is to be their source.. not me.. and true Christians do not beg for it.. they always pray for it..secretly too..  and if God is not supplying it do ASAP ask Him why.. I was with a group of Bible students living in a home and we trated soley God to supply our needs.. …we would make a lst of things we wanted, needed and would pray over it, in Jesus name and next God would supply everything in his way and in his time.. Months later this miraculous supply  had stopped one day for good,  and when I went to prayer to God as to why , God had said one of the Bible students was stealing the food, reselling it, cause he was going out with a girl.. Reminds me of the too many bad TV preachers too.. what else is new a Judas in our midst.. so God could not bless us with his provisons. The Just shall live by Faith in God, and not faith in others..  You know I often  hear alcoholics as well quoting me Bible verses as to why they should get money from others too.. so they can continue in sin.. Now as per  “carrying one another burdens to furfill the word of God?” is that in your Gospel or what Bible specifc verse are you referring to?  Cause I agree we are to pray one for another.. Cause God also said we are to insure our  money is spent wisely, we are to be good stewards of it too. God also said cursed, note cursed, is he that puts his trust into man,, for then God will show you wahat sinful man is realy like.. The just shall live by faith in God.. not faith in your church, pastor, wife, brothers ..
Amazing I do still to often hear the overly simplified, evangelical, childish approach used by still to many preachers who now do say “ Come to Jesus your Savior from your sins” when they should be saying “Come to Jesus Christ, your savior and anointer of the Holy Spirit., who will empower you to live His life”.
“for the lost to come under Apostolic Governance”; but there is no such thing as any Apostolic Governance … there are no Christian rulers.. it is mutal. loving, repsectfull  and voluntary submission. Even Apostle Paul governed no one.. he merely freely too gave them strong advice in love…
all free…. no monies requested too..

Vanity, All is vanity

(Job 15:31 KJV)  Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompense.

(Job 15:35 KJV)  They conceive mischief, and bring forth vanity, and their belly prepareth deceit.

(Job 35:13 KJV)  Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.

(Psa 4:2 KJV)  how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.

(Psa 10:7 KJV)  His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.

(Psa 12:2 KJV)  They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.

(Psa 39:5 KJV)   verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah.

(Psa 39:11 KJV)   surely every man is vanity. Selah.

(Psa 62:9 KJV)  Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.

(Psa 78:33 KJV)  Therefore their days did he consume in vanity, and their years in trouble.

(Psa 94:11 KJV)  The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.

(Psa 119:37 KJV)  Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity; and quicken thou me in thy way(Psa 144:11 KJV)  Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood:

(Eccl 1:2 KJV)  Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.

(Eccl 1:14 KJV)  I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

(Eccl 2:1 KJV)  I said in mine heart, Go to now, I will prove thee with mirth, therefore enjoy pleasure: and, behold, this also is vanity.

(Eccl 2:11 KJV)  Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought, and on the labour that I had laboured to do: and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there was no profit under the sun.

(Eccl 2:17 KJV)  Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

(Eccl 7:6 KJV)  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

(Eccl 12:8 KJV)  Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

(Isa 5:18 KJV)  Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:

(Isa 40:17 KJV)  All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

(Isa 40:23 KJV)  That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.

(Isa 41:29 KJV)  Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

(Isa 44:9 KJV)  They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

(Isa 58:9 KJV)  Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

(Jer 2:5 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?

(Jer 10:15 KJV)  They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.

(Jer 16:19 KJV)  O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

(Jer 51:18 KJV)  They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.

(Ezek 13:6 KJV)  They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.

(Ezek 13:8 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD.

(Ezek 13:9 KJV)  And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.

(Ezek 22:28 KJV)  And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

Hab 2:13 KJV)  Behold, is it not of the LORD of hosts that the people shall labour in the very fire, and the people shall weary themselves for very vanity?

(Eph 4:17 KJV)  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

(2 Pet 2:18 KJV)  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

(Job 15:31 KJV)  Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompense.

2 Ki 17:15  And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.

(Mat 26:2 KJV)  Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

(Mat 27:22 KJV)  Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.

(Mat 27:23 KJV)  And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.

(Mat 27:35 KJV)  And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

(Mat 28:5 KJV)  And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

(Acts 2:36 KJV)  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

(Acts 4:10 KJV)  Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

(Rom 6:6 KJV)  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

(1 Cor 1:23 KJV)  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

(1 Cor 2:2 KJV)  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

(2 Cor 13:4 KJV)  For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

(Gal 2:20 KJV)  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

(Gal 3:1 KJV)  O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

(Gal 5:24 KJV)  And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

(Gal 6:14 KJV)  But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.



Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Revelation 22:14

There are hundreds of God’s commandements in the Bible.. so which ones do you pick and chose to do..  still no one keeps them all..  Blessed now are they that do his commandments?? for it is still impossible to do and very unreal..  Not  all the commandements in the Bible now are applicable even today and so  which ones do you follow?  you try even do them all cause you still cannot hear God speaking directly  to you? 


JN 15:4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.   15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much  fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.   15:6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.   15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
The ignorant peoeple who do not know the New Testament firsthand will try to tell you that you have to obey all of God’s commandments, all even in the OT, but these same liars cannot list them all, and they do not know what they are even, so firstly they do not live them.. and how hypocrtical and absurd of them, but now can you tell the difference betwen the letter of the law and the spirit of the law even?  The Holy Spirit puts God’s laws on our hearts.. which ones?
 But now  in the NT God says he wants us Eph 5:18 but be filled with the Spirit;  Eph 3:19 to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.  2 Tim 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

NOW THERE IS ALSO A false Campaign to Bring Back the Original Holy Name of Our God Yahushuah BUT  firstly THE ONLY VALID NAME OF GOD TODAY IS STILL JESUS CHRIST.. and these people also falsely seem to hate the trinity of God, the Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit..  why????? It is a subtle attempt to demote the importance of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The devil is behnd all of this, he lies to turn people’s eyes of the real Jesus and falsely turn them into Jews..


 1 TIM 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

So why do some people falsey like to preach that all of  the biblical laws are still being applicable  to others when clearly they also cannot keep the laws.. for them is preaching the Law an acceptable alternative to living the law? Of course not…. Why do they now  rather not preach Jesus and him crucified, Jesus Christ who died for our sins so we can really live now by His Holy Spirit 
Mat 7:13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:  John 1:4  In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God..



THE Old Testament MOSAIC law was given SOLELY to the nation of Israel, AND NOTE THIS NOT EVEN TO ANY OTHER NATION AND CERTAINLY not to ANY OF THE Christians. NOW THE FALSE TEACHERS, FALSE PROPHETS, WHO TRY TO HAVE THEIR OWN DISCIPLES WHO WILL SUPPORT THEM MONETARILY AS WELL THEY , ALL THE LIARS WILL TRY TO TELL YOU OTHERWISE BUT None of the Old Testament law is binding on us today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law ..

Paul says “They zealously court you, but for no good; yes, they want to exclude you, that you may be zealous for them.” You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. God has not told you to do this, but man.”

The devil gets more people into hell with religion than no religion. The law by its nature makes one very religious. To resurrect the Old Testament laws as a way to live or have God’s approval is to have a religion Christ pronounced dead. At the same time trying to live in a relationship purchased by Christ. Oil and water don’t mix, and neither does the law and grace, they are two totally different operations, two different covenants.

Many Jews thought that the Messiah would be like other kings. They reasoned that if the Messiah would rule all nations, He would do so by armed force. So they also had  looked for One to lead them in battle against their nation’s enemy, Rome (Acts 5:36-37). Seeing the great powers of Jesus, they wanted to force Jesus to become their king (John 6:15). They expected earthly Jerusalem to be His capital city. Later, when Jesus came to Jerusalem, large crowds shouted their greetings: “Hosanna to the Son of David.” (Matthew 21:9) “Blessed is the coming kingdom of our father David.” (Mark 11:10) “Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord.” (Luke 19:38) Instead of joining the Jews  in their  false happiness, Jesus wept over the city (Luke 19:43-44). He warned that Jerusalem would soon be destroyed by the Romans (Luke 21:5-24). Instead of marching against the Roman rulers, Jesus came before them as an accused criminal on trial (Luke 23).  The crowds were soon disappointed when they found the truth of what Jesus said, thaught..  His kingdom was not of this world.. . Many who had welcomed Him began now falsely to call for His death.
The Book of Hebrews in the New Testament was clearly  a warning still now to any and all professing Jewish or Christian  believers about the danger of returning to the old, Levitical system once they had been exposed to the glorious Gospel of Jesus the Messiah.  Dozens of groups have sprung up all over the world calling themselves “Christian” or “Messianic” and promoting varying degrees of Torah observance for believers. It becomes NOW ALSO a different matter when they expect others to do the same as they do or they are considered not spiritual or not saved.  Commandment observers today are zealous and eager to accept a principle Paul himself rejected. He taught against the idea that law-keeping could be used to convey  growth for our spiritual life or justification Gal 3:1  O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? :2  This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? :3  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4  Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5  He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? :6  Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8  And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9  So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12  And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14  That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Gal 3:24  Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25  But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29  And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Rom 3:21-24: “But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe.”
Mat 5:48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. 6;1  Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2  Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3  But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: :4  That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
Yes  foolish persons who falsely want to exalt their own good works lie to us and say that they have to be also saved by keeping the law..falsely do think that we become more holy or spiritual by keeping the Old Testament laws which is exactly the same mistake many non Christians are also doing.
THE  CLEARLY VERY FALSE Legalism now tries to teach it is the keeping of the law that makes one righteous. They do still lie when they say we are saved by grace but we have to keep the law as an addition to sanctify us. The word “law” (Greek: nomos) can apply to the Ten Commandments, the statutes and decrees given at Sinai, the five books of Moses, or the entire Old Testament, it all depends on the context it is used in. All the law is called the Mosaic Law, as Jesus often referred to it; it totals 613 commandments. MANY OF those who observe and perpetuate the law today want to discard the 603 and live by only 10. AS PER THE 10 Commandments,   Jesus HIMSELF HAD attributes it to Moses, not DOLLY to the 10 commandments, making no distinction FORM THE MOSAIC LAWS. The 10 commandments STILL were never separated from the rest of the law of Moses. Some OTHER PERSONS NOW FALSELY  have made artificial divisions of the Old Testament mosaics  law into civil, ceremonial and moral categories. While this can be advantageous for studying the assortment of laws, these categories are not found in the Scripture. The Rabbis THEMSELVES NOW saw the covenant as a unit of 613 commandments consisting of 365 negative and 248 positive. While the mosaic law was perceived to be made of parts it was always understood as a whole. It is wrong to divide the law into categories that the word of God does not. It gives a false view that these are biblical divisions when in fact they are not.
Rom 10:4: “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. By trusting in Christ’s work the law is fulfilled perfectly. Christ is the end of the law, the Greek word is telos which means termination or goal. The law was replaced. All the Old Testament types and shadows were replaced by the light the one who gave us them, Christ did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, to bring it to its natural conclusion and completion. It was there for a time and was then replaced and is non operative for a believer, it is put aside. The laws recipients were Israel. The New Covenant recipients are both Israel and the gentiles. The Old Testament law clearly is not our reference point under grace. Jesus becomes the instructor in the New Covenant through the Holy Spirit.
Mat 20:1  For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2  And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. :3  And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4  And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5  Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6  And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7  They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8  So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9  And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10  But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11  And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12  Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13  But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? 14  Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. 15  Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 16  So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

We are no longer underneath the law. Jesus has put Himself between us and the law, rescued from the penalty we are now “under” Him. The laws have become lifeless ordinances that served their usefulness in time but now are put aside for the believer. Instead we receive God himself, the Holy Spirit, in the better covenant (2 Cor.3).

Rom 7:6: “But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Gal.5:4: “You who would be justified by the law (obedience and works) you have fallen away from grace.” To be justified is to make one more obedient or more right with God. Whether one adds food or baptism or a day its all useless for a spiritual life. Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now trying to be made perfect by the flesh.” I hope you don’t fall for any of this.

(2 Cor 3:14 KJV) But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ. (2 Cor 3:16 KJV) Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.

(Mat 27:51 KJV)  And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
Heb 6:18  That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: 19 KJV)  Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
(Heb 10:20 KJV)  By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Rom 10:4  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5  For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. :6  But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7  Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8  But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11  For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12  For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
(Gal 3:23 KJV)  But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 KJV)  Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 KJV)  But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Eph 2:15  Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16  And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17  And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18  For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19  Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20  And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21  In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22  In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
John 15:5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
It is absolutely amazing how many varied and different  unbiblical reasons, arguments people still do give you why they do not have to pray in the spirit, be relatedly Baptized with the Holy Spirit.. most of these people read what other men say and they do not listen to God firsthand here too.
I am basically not at all surprised that some people are so very falsely, dramatically opposed to the gifts of the holy spirit, praying and speaking in tongues included.. because decades I was there myself, when I was a Baptist.. I do admit that I then did not want to accept the fullness of God being offered by God, Jesus, Christ, the Holy Sprit cause I had wanted first, also to experience what the world, devil, flesh had to offer..  and wasted and regretted years later they had noting good to ever offer as I had seen, just a wasteful life with out God.. so next it was very easy for me to surrender to the baptism of the Holy spirit as evinced by speaking in tongues and to expect the joy, peace, power, empowerment that came with it..
HOW TO BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT  (Rom 12:1 KJV)  I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Thus the  Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually WHEN THE PERSON SI SAVED OR AFTERWARDS DEEPENING ON HOW MUCH OF THEIR LIFE THEIR PERSON SURRENDERS TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. MANY PERSONS TILL ONLY INITIALLY  GIVE PIECEMEAL, SMALL PORTIONS FO THEIR LIFE TO GOD AND NEVER SURRENDER TO THE COMPLETE WILL OF GOD FOR THEM.. now still there are many Christians who  have had this “secondary” experience of the Spirit. after  they had fully died to self, stop living in the kingdom of self, gave their whole life unto Jesus Christ, God, the holy spirit.They next do say that it has brought great blessing and comfort to them. Furthermore, they say that the results of the experience is a renewed dedication and appreciation for God, a stronger desire to read the Bible, a stronger desire to fellowship with Christians, and a deeper sense of worship of God. Millions of Christians who claim to have had this experience

The term “baptize with the Holy Spirit” occurs several times in scripture but many persons falsely try to deny what it means.. cause they are not ready to serve God 100 percent still.


Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

Mark 1:8, “I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

Luke 3:16, “John answered and said to them all, ‘As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

John 1:33, “And I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, “He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the one who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.”

Acts 1:5, “for John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”

Acts 11:16, “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”


all evidenced now by personally speaking in tongues. When people were baptized in the Holy Spirit in the New Testament church, the Bible says they all spoke in tongues (see Acts 2:1-4, Acts 4:31, Acts 10:44-48 and Acts 19:1-7).

.. so some never receive it because they falsely refuse to give all to Jesus Christ….

.1 Cor. 14:5 “I would like every one of you to speak in tongues.”

1Cor. 14:39 Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, andDo not forbid speaking in tongues.

1 Cor. 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.

1Cor. 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. (This is prayer.) Indeed, no one (except God) understands him; he utters mysteries (in prayer and worship to God) with his spirit.

1 Cor. 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies (spiritually strengthens) himself (and draws close to God in prayer that exalts Jesus in an expression of supernatural worship), but he who prophesies edifies (strengthens) the church (both himself and others). 1Cor. 14:13 For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says.

1 Cor. 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 1Cor. 14:15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit (praying to Jesus in a Spirit-given language), but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind.

Surely there must be very valid, scriptural reasons for “praying in the Spirit”, or God would not have instituted this to “Pray in the Spirit” available to all Christian Believers  as the initial “sign” of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, while others do also have the “gifts of the Gift of tongues ” which He set in the church Acts 2:4; I Corinthians 12:28). These both are now separate gifts..  To “pray in the Spirit” and  purpose of speaking in tongues and each of the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit is to HELP US GET CLOSER TO GOD! Therefore speaking in tongues, like all gifts from God, is VERY GOOD! The baptism in the Holy Spirit is clearly promised to all of the believers in the Word of God, but one cannot receive this blessing until he has gotten over his doubts and fears, or any doctrinal problems concerning the validity of this experience for today. All god’s promises are appropriated by faith. When some Christians who desire the baptism in the Holy Spirit seem unable to receive this experience, or those who have received the baptism can speak only a few words in tongues, often it is the result of some form of past, unrepentant major  sin or a past  unrepentant occult involvement.

Now as per the separate Church used  “gift of tongues” is one of the nine charismatic gifts of the Spirit and consists of many tongues or languages (‘divers kinds of tongues,’ I Corinthians 12:10), which are for the purpose of ministering to the Body of Christ. It is in reference to these charismatic gifts that Paul asks: ‘…are all workers of miracles? have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?” (I Corinthians 12:29-30).

We are admonished several times in Scripture to personally often  “pray in the Spirit” as this is the means by which we edify ourselves, worship God, and minister on behalf of others (I Corinthians 14:2,4; Acts 10:46; Ephesians 6:18). Paul speaks of praying “in the Spirit” and praying “with the understanding” (I Corinthians 14:15). Every Christian uses prayer with the understanding to strengthen himself and to pray for his and others’ needs, as well as for praising and worshipping God. He certainly does not wait until he “feels’ an anointing before praying in English for these purposes. How much more then should he not wait upon some “feeling” before praying in the Spirit, especially. . To believe that God would ever give us an experience except that which is sacred and holy, or to think that the manifestation of His Presence in us would not glorify Him, is, of course, out of the question since it makes u falsely belive we are superior to God and his will for us

Perhaps the greatest hindrance to the continuation of speaking in tongues on the part of many Christians results from the simple fact that they have never been taught that they should pray regularly in the Spirit. Every Spirit-filled believer, as a consequence of his baptism in the Holy Spirit and his ability to pray in tongues, has been supernaturally endowed with a three-fold charismatic ministry of prayer in the Spirit. This ministry involves: personal ministry for oneself, devotional ministry to God, and an extended ministry on behalf of others.Although a Divine Holy Spirit anointing experience may at times accompany our prayer in the Spirit, it is essential that we understand that the experience of speaking in tongues is always initiated by an act of faith on our part in precisely the same manner in which we initially received the baptism in the Spirit (Galatians 3:2,14, “by faith”). Every Holy Ghost Baptized Spirit-filled believer can pray in the Spirit at any time he wishes if he will lift up his voice and speak in faith and intercession.  http://achristiancounselor.com/tongues.html


Jesus Christ the Cornerstone

Isa 28:16  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 17  Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18  And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it. 19  From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report. :20  For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it. 21  For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act. 22  Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth. 23  Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech. 24  Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground? 25  When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place? 26  For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him. :27  For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod. 28  Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen. 29  This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working.
(Psa 118:22 KJV)  The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
(Mat 21:42 KJV)  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
(Mark 12:10 KJV)  And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
(Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
(Luke 6:48 KJV)  He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
(Luke 6:49 KJV)  But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
(John 17:24 KJV)  Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
(1 Cor 3:10 KJV)  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
(1 Cor 3:11 KJV)  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
(Eph 1:4 KJV)  According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
(Eph 2:20 KJV)  And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
(1 Tim 6:19 KJV)  Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
(2 Tim 2:19 KJV)  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
(Heb 4:3 KJV)  For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
(Heb 6:1 KJV)  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Should Politicaly correct persons or Ostriches be tolerated in the Church

(Prov 28:1 KJV)  The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.

(Jer 9:6 KJV) Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.;
(Deu 27:18 KJV) Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.19 Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen
(Eph 4:28 KJV) Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
(1 Cor 11:31 KJV) For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. (Mat 18:14 KJV) Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. (John 12:27 KJV) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
And.. “50% of Sermons Are Not Biblical” Preaching the Gospel is not acceptable to living it. All pastors still do need to read the Bible for one hour a day at least, and pray for one hour a day at least. Almost 80 % of them do not. At least 50 percent of Church and TV, Internet sermons thus are unbiblical because most pastors do not use or read the Bible itself. Great, big Church pastors even steal their sermons from others as I have witnessed firsthand too. I interviewed personally 45 evangelical pastors in one city,  , and none of them even used the Bible in their counseling ministry with their members and adherents. We have too many impostors, hirelings in the Ministry, bad persons not directly called by God to minister and that is why they also do cheat, lie, steal, commit adultery, tax evasions and abuse others, slander as well.
I was sitting in my local church  two years when God spoke to me directly and said you really do not love this Pastor. Indignantly I replied “Lord what do you mean? I am sitting in his service”. God replied “you tolerate him but you do not love him for if that was your local past pastor in Montreal and he had sinned you would have rightfully ran into his office and asked him to repent, and this other pastor has now been sinning, lying, stealing, abusing others, even for years as you know and you have done nothing about it”. I replied “Lord God you are right please forgive me. And God help this pastor to repent”. A few days later God said now go to speak to the pastor and ask him to repent. But God I prayed you would do that, help him repent and God replied I am going to use you to answer your prayers.
Sadly this was not the first or the last pastor in Canada that I have personal gone to face to face and asked them next, now to rightfully repent of their now too many wrong doings here on earth, and the majority of them did not. Most of them 90% next were removed as pastors next by God directly, even original church founders too.
And during this persecution that tends to follow when the likely unloving Pastor refuses to repent, likely 90 percent of them still, the same persecution that is not ordained by God still God shows us his love, clearly God speaks to us personally as to how much he loves us inspire of the negative fact others do not.. God loves us. That is important even above all that God loves us.,, and we love him cause he first loved us.
John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
(Psalm 73:6 KJV) Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment. (Psa 124:1 If it had not been the LORD who was on our side, now may Israel say; 2 If it had not been the LORD who was on our side, when men rose up against us: 3 Then they had swallowed us up quick, when their wrath was kindled against us: (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Mal 2:16 KJV) For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously. (2 Pet 2:14 KJV) Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: (Mal 2:1 KJV) And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.
(Gal 5:19 KJV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. (Titus 3:10 KJV) A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. (Hosea 4:6 KJV) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. (Ezek 22:27 KJV) Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. (Zep 3:3 KJV) Her princes within her are roaring lions; her judges are evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow. (Mat 7:15 KJV) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (Mat 10:16 KJV) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. (Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (Ezek 22:29 KJV) The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.
(Nahum 1:3 KJV) The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.
(Mat 18:5 KJV) And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
To overcome, means to overcome the personal sins even the sins of tolerating, allowing all divorces and wrongfully too, relationship divorces included, the sins of abusing others..
(Mat 12:33 KJV) Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. (1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
 (2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
(Mat 5:13 KJV) Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
(Acts 17:30 KJV) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
(Acts 3:19 KJV) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, (Luke 12:59 KJV) I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.
God still judges all people for what they do here on earth, and abusing another person is not a sin that God accepts lightly, even if you are a Pastor, elder, leader.. . Personal Repentance is always in order even for the evangelical pastors now too , yes as well as for those who do too often show a bad example by tax evasions, abusing others, counseling divorce now as well.  Even if your pastor. elder, priest is the one that is sinning now rebuke him but in love.. if you do not rebuke him it is likely cause you do not love him too. (Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
(Psa 51:1 KJV) A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came unto him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. 2 Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. 3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. 4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
When was the last time you rightfuly had asked a church leader, pastor, elder, deacons, to now personaly repent of their sins? Never? why? God is not a respector of persons!
‎1 John 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. (2 Tim 1:7 KJV)  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. (Luke 12:47 KJV)  And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. … Luke 19:20  And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin: 21  For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. :22  And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: 23  Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury? 24  And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.:25  (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.) 26  For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
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Messianic Jews, Judaizers, Seventh day Adventist

v. Ju·da·ized, Ju·da·iz·ing, Ju·da·iz·es. v.tr. To bring into conformity with Judaism. v.intr. To adopt Jewish customs and beliefs. ( Not the Christian ones)


Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Ephesians 2 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2 Timothy 3 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
1 John 4 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 Corinthians 3: 1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. 21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; 22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 23 And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.
Galatians 3 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
James 5 19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.


Messianic Jews,  judaizer , Seventh day Adventist what do they have in common? well they follow the old testament laws for a start, those laws that God has given for the Jewish  people alone to observe and not the Christian Persons.. Christian persons follow solely the laws of the New Testament..


Now if I eat meat, can I still claim to be a vegetarian? No, of course not!


Could you be Christian and DENY Jesus and his finished work on the cross as well? NO


SO WITH THE Same logic. You can’t be Jewish, a Jew, a Judiazer   and also now EMBRACE Jesus.
Almost a Christian is not the same thing as being a real Christian.


What a really mess this all is with many people following their own religion version basically and not the true religion of Jesus Christ found in the New Testament.


If someone born to a Jewish mother who  embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT now  a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They now are either a  New Testament Christian, or a Old testament Jew..
The ‘messianic Jews’ now are   just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN.
Do they  even rightfuly firstly  understand that Christianity teaches that Judaism is the ‘old’ covenant which Christianity has  replaced?
As nobody today can follow both religions; for they are mutually exclusive.
Many people — some but not all Christians, and some Jews as well — erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. This is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Genetics might indicate that ones ancestors were Jews, but that does not, in fact, make one a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child proved to be of Jewish origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person’s mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith and wishes to identify solely as a Jew, then that person is considered fully Jewish. In addition, a convert to Judaism is fully Jewish. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race (for example one cannot convert to become an Asian or an African-American), one can convert to become a Jew. If someone who is Asian or African-American converts to Judaism, that person obviously remains an Asian or an African-American, and at the same time is a Jew. However, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
Even Messianic Jews with their false Judaism have  clearly falsely diverted from being merely Jewish followers of solely Jesus Christ, It can be said to be now an undeniable   cesspit of Jews hating Christians, the church and Jesus Christ still and they are still wrongfully following Judaism..They never once do they like to mention  the blatant judgment that God will pour out on Israel for its idolatry , rather falsely stating that  “ Israel remains God’s elect , chosen to bring his blessing upon the rest of humankind .”  Talmudic Jews and United Nations’ Masons are looking for God’s blessing upon the rest of mankind . They are deceiving themselves and are aided and abetted by their own false teachers.. Though mankind’s blessings came from the Jews , so will all its curses . If you do not believe this you had better read your Bible . These people do not reveal or revere the real Jesus . If these Messianic Jews ever do these things I will believe they are true Christians . This group is nothing less than a fifth column deceiving supposed Christians and Jews who may have a real interest in Christ ;
Satan wants you to think of the verse “ and so all Israel shall be saved “ , which means that all who trust Christ as Savior and Lord , not any unbelieving Jews .
Christians and  the current non-Christian Jews also do worship different gods ,  The Jews do not, did not  truly honor Christ as the promised Messiah , but are looking for another that will come in his own name . The Talmud  itself speaks of absolute mockery and hatred for Christ and Christians.
Only a small remnant of remaining Jews will accept Christ after he has poured out his wrath upon them for their constant rejection of him .
Messianic Jews do falsely want us all to believe that Jesus remains firmly connected to unsaved Jewish people . and that Jerusalem is still “that great city “ , but he has temporarily forsaken them because they forsook him . The Same attempt is made on when these  deceivers say that  Jewish people are still God’s chosen people . But an unbelieving Jew will go to the same hell that an unbelieving Gentile will go to . if you are a Christian, do you believe that the Jews go to Hell? the Christian answer will be “yes, anyone who doesn’t accept Jesus as their saviour goes to hell.”  I think the more interesting question is, when did  most of Jews stop worshipping God? Before or after Jesus was born? Before and after.. Who now really had changed? God or the Jews?;
William J. Beausay reveals the heresy of  “ apocryphal writings .“
Howard Silverman reveals the heresies of  unbiblical  rabbinic literature .
Henri L. Goulet reveals the heresy of Jewish apocalyptic Literature and explains clearly what is taught  about ancient rhetoric , which is probably unbiblical and perhaps Talmudic .
Elliot Klayman reveals the heresy of Rabbinic Literature and its Talmudic association . Do they believe the Noahide laws to be “ the bedrock society from the dawn of civilization ?“  If so this is more evidence proving their satanic deception .
There is still a  “ Very Serious Problems Spiritual  With The  Messianic Jewish Congregations .” as they clearly are Unchristian..


Messianic Jews are still just as much Jews as anything and not the real Christians of Jesus  Christ.  Seventh day Adventism, Judaizers, Messianic Jew want to have one foot in Hell, in Judaism, and one foot in Heaven, Christianity and that is Impossible.
I respect Christians but I don’t respect ‘messianic Jews’ because they lie claiming they are both Jews and Christians.. give it up, you are one or the other.
All Jewish people, Messianic ones too  can only be saved the same way as Gentiles can, by grace through faith in Jesus without the works of the law OF MOSES WHICH WAS DONE AWAY AFTER JESUS CHRIST CAME AND DIES ON THE CROSS
I agree that once you accept Jesus, you’re a Christian and no longer a Jew or a messianic Jew.
Messianic Jews, Judaizers Seventh day Adventists do now still have more in common with the Jews than the true Christians


Christians are NOT ‘or ever will be the restored Jews’ or the new Jews, they are only still the true Christians.,


YOU really CANNOT BE of the JEWISH relgion and EMBRACE JESUS. It is as simple as that.

NOTE THIS:  Genesis 9:3-4 is proof of that to Noah. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
According to this verse, Noah was given permission to eat anything that didn’t have the blood still in it. Adam wasn’t given this permission, and it’s a much broader spectrum than the kosher diet of Moses’s law, where many animals were forbidden to eat under any circumstances. Different still, is the diet of the NT  where now people can eat any animals without spiritual punishment.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses……  15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
2Cor 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.  3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:  3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?  3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.  3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.  3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.  3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:  3:13 And not as Moses,which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:  3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.  3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.  3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.  3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.  7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.  7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.  7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,  7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.  7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.  7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.  8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
1Tim 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.


Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.  17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at(overlooked); but now commandeth all men every where to repent:  17:31 Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained;(JESUS) whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead.
That last group of verses is an absolute 100 megaton explosion to the argument about sacred objects, ‘godly’ graven images of the temple, relics of the OT, and the such implications that these things matter now, or ever really did. God passed it by due to the peoples ignorance, and most likely influences of false religions after leaving Egypt. God never seemed to care about gold, jewels, polished silver, fine brass, or the fabric of holy robes prior to Moses leading Israel out of Egypt, yet from this point on, it seemed to matter a great deal. These verses just explained it all away, and that’s why we as Christians are not instructed to carry on with these things.
Now that it should be apparent that most of the OT laws have been done away, what remains then? What’s going on? Well, theres only 9 commandments that are reiterated in the NT*, but they are summarized by 1 new one. John 13:34 is where Jesus says a NEW commandment He was giving was to love one another as He loves us, and Romans 13:8 says to love one another is to fulfill all of the law. That is the law now, there it is, all of it, right there, for also in loving one another you will not do any ill will to anyone. Paul even clarifies it, just in case you were wondering what kind of love to have.
There is also Galatians 5:14 “For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” Can it really get any clearer?
I will now take this one step further and show the Jesus was instituting this new set of rules even within His own life. Yes, Jesus Christ the Messiah was preparing people for a change, things were not going to be the way they were in the OT anymore, and this verse is painfully clear that a change was a comin’….
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.  11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Kind of interesting isn’t it? Jesus was well aware of all of the wars and fighting and bloodshed of the OT times and was putting an end to it once and for all. This was not the way of God, for He is love. The kingdom of heaven would no longer be able to be taken by violence, (from either side actually) because it would no longer be an earthly matter. We know this because of the examples the apostles set in peace and persecution through the first century church. They were not renegade assassins or anything like that.
So here come the verses that every Judaizer tries to hit me over the head with: Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.  5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
These verses have cause a lot of confusion in the faith, especially in light of the massive amount of verses I have already laid down in this section. Something needs to be made clear here. When Jesus was referring to “the law” in those verses, He was not referring to the law of MOSES. In fact, Jesus and the apostles differentiate between the law of God and the law of Moses in many places, this is a key point. Jesus proves that He is not talking about the law of Moses in some of the very next verses where He lists the commandments now, and even updates a few, making them stricter…..He says “anyone who breaks the least of THESE commandments shall be least in the kingdom.” What commandments? He didn’t name any yet, BUT HE WAS ABOUT TO. Remember, according to Hebrews 7 that there was a changing of the priesthood, therefore a changing of the law.


Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:  5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:  5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:  5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.  5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.  5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.


Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.  5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;  5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?


Further proof that the law of God/Christ is different from the law of Moses is in…


John 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you NOT that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the TRUE bread from heaven..


Mat 19:7-8 and Mark 10:4-5 Jesus is asked about divorce and His answer is that MOSES gave them that precept because of the hardness of their hearts, and that it was not so from the beginning. Proving again that the law has changed more than once. Jesus then forbade it except in adultery.


John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.


John 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?


Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be justified by the law of Moses.


Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. (The elders then came together and decided it was wise for Paul to purify himself in the temple and shave his head according to custom, in order to prevent a riot…it didn’t work, because the Jews knew Paul was in fact teaching this, and we know too from the many writings of Paul which I have already provided in this section.)


We also know from 1st Samuel 8:1 that God gave the people kings because they whined that they wanted a human king, He would have been their king. We also know that God sent them quails when they were tired of manna, so they ate meat until they got sick of it. Apparently God has always wanted a better way, but the Jews simply would not listen, so finally when Christ came, He came teaching the true way of the Father.  As far as certain OT prophecies like Zechariah 14:16-19, which talks about there being observance of the feast of tabernacles by all people…simply read verse 8 and you will see this is all figurative/spiritual. Verse 8 talks about living waters flowing from Jerusalem. How can water be ‘living’? In the NT, living waters are talked about as something spiritual and not physical. Better proof is found back in Zech 12:4 where it says that every horse will be struck with astonishment and blindness, and their riders will go mad. Literally this verse is pointless, horses aren’t used for transportation anymore, they’re hardly even used for labor. Will cars and tractors go blind instead?


The last thing to address is the oft repeated argument of the promises of God, and verses about His perpetual covenant with Israel, such as in Exodus 31:16 that sabbath day keeping would be a part of this covenant, among other things like diet in Lev 3:17. These things all became nullified when the covenant was broken, and Israel was cast off. Think it didn’t happen? See Holy Racism to find out how and when… Israel became heathen, and eventually rejected their own messiah and the true ways of God (Matt 8:11-12, Matt 12:7, Matt 5:21-46, Matt 21:43, John 8:47, John 1:18, Act 2:36, Rom 11:20, Col 1:15, etc etc. see also  Sacrifices, and  OT violence for more info). As a result of their wickedness, God made good on His word and proved He did not make idle warnings to Israel (1Kings 9:6-7, Josh 24:20, 1Ch 28:9, 2Ch 7:19-20, 2Ch 15:2) which came to a climax with the destruction of the temple and scattering of the nation in 70 ad. These events dissolved the covenant, and THEREFORE nullified many OT prophecies of the coming days for Israel. Get out of the mindset that says God will keep His end of the bargain even if you don’t keep yours,   http://www.angelfire.com/planet/loveoneanothe//judaizers.html


The Influence of the Hebrew Roots movement (HRM) has grown by leaps and bounds over the last century in America. It’s impact in this end time is being felt in all areas of Christendom of those who call Jesus Lord. For those who are Born of the Spirit, if they are Bereans and study the scriptures comparing this movement with the Gospel given to the NT church, they would see bright flashing danger signs. Sad to say, many are being deceived.
The Hebrew Roots Movement which encompasses Messianic Judaism and both in fact are one and the same, just packaged differently in order to deceive more people, is gaining momentum in these last days. While Messianic Judaism is more Christ oriented, it is really just a stepping stone to the HRM. Many Jews who have accepted Christ as Messiah, are attempting as the Jewish Christians in the early church, to mesh Grace with Judaism under the Old Covenant, making all inclusive with one another the Works of the Law, as well as the ordinances, such as the Sabbath and other holy days and combining them with Christianity. The great Apostle Paul had much to say about this in his letters to the early church. Read the book of Galatians where Paul addresses this heresy and warns the early church that if they follow this teaching, they have fallen from grace. http://www.angelfire.com/la/jlush/dangersHRM.html


A SCRIPTURAL VIEW OF MESSIANIC JUDAISM Exposing the heresy of the demonic Messianic Jew movement

1. The apostle Paul, a Jew said, “I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW” (1 Cor. 9:20).






7. “WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS, IT SPEAKS TO THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW (Jews who are not born again)” (Rom. 3:19).



10. “GENTLES…DO NOT HAVE THE LAW…THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LAW” (Rom. 2:14) (Gentiles never have and never will have the Law.)


12. “SIN SHALL NOT BE YOUR MASTER, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE [Grace is the God-given desire and power to do His will]” (Rom. 6:14).







Paul, said that “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28).


In conclusion, God’s law hasn’t been done away, it’s the law of Moses that is no more. We now have the true way, demonstrated in the New Testament through the life of Christ.

Christian Zionism as a FALSE man made theology AND in its basic starting points does not discriminate between a very small Remnant of physical Israel who HAD accepted Christ and came entirely out of the Old Covenant shadows, and ALSO  the large majority who rejected Christ and still reject him.


By Christian Zionism ADVOCATES  I am not talking only about JEWS, BUT John Hagee and his Christians United For Israel (CUFI), but about the entire FALSE theology of John Darby, C.I. Scofield, Lewis S. Chafer, Hal Lindsey and many other celebrities. http://halfback.posterous.com/some-old-testament-texts-on-the-transformatio




About those Jews, persons who still falsely refuse to acknowledge openly Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/


– Even Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/tag/jesus-christ/
-Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven.. http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/now-how-did-moses-abraham-the-great-jewish-patriarchs-next-make-it-to-heaven/


Jesus the Jewish Messiah rule of Israel basically is not detailed in the New Testament. Non existent..

Part of the revelation given to Paul by Christ was that physical Israel, the Jews, were no longer the chosen people because of their bloodline. Paul expresses this part of his revelation in Galatians 3: 3-7, After the Cross, though, the chosen bloodline teaching itself became anti-Christ. Romans 2: 28-29: “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” Paul is saying that anyone of any race becomes a true Jew by the Spirit, by having the Spirit in his heart.  We know that at a time earlier than the time of Christ that the northern tribes were called Israel and the southern tribes Judah, or Jews. But in the first century when the New Testament was written, the term Israel and Jews referred to the same people.  And interestingly John in Revelation 2: 9 and 3: 9 supports what Paul says about a true Jew being anyone who is led by the Spirit. The teaching of Christian Zionism that all physical Israel, the Jews, now remain the chosen people, is part of the strong delusion of II Thessalonians 2: 10-12 and of the snare of Luke 21: 35.  http://northwye.blog.co.uk/2012/11/01/paul-s-revelation-from-jesus-christ-is-opposed-by-christian-zionist-theology-15153737/ 
Jesus the Jewish Messiah who will restablish the nation of Osrael is still basically is not detailed  in the New Testament.
Why is that the role of Jesus the Jewish  Messiah is not detailed at all in the New Testament and the word Messiah is   mentioned only 2 times  in the new testament..
(John 1:41 KJV)  He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.
(John 4:25 KJV)  The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.  26   Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
still there is no detailed  Testament definition of the Messiah now too. ..;
Most Jews thus believe that Jesus really could not be the Messiah of the Old Testament; even of he claimed  to be so..
Basically identity of Jesus as being the Messiah is kept secret, except to chosen disciples.The story in the Gospel of Matthew[ account tells of the “Wise Men” or “Magi” who brought gifts to the infant Jesus after following a star which they believed was a sign that the Messiah, or King of the Jews, had been born. The Gospels state that Jesus is the Messiah,] “Son of God”,[, and “Lord and God,, sent to “give his life as a ransom for many” and “preach the good news of the kingdom of God.”
(Luke 2:11 KJV)  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
(John 1:41 KJV)  He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.
(John 20:31 KJV)  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Jews and Christians seem to have a difference of views as to what the messiah will do now too .Many Messianic Jews and Christian thus belive that the role of Jesus the Messiah will only be fulfilled in the millennium reign of Christ, but is this true, is there a new testament substantiation of it. No and why is that?
The central theme for the Jews of the Old Testament Holy Books is the coming of the Messiah and the establishment of the Kingdom of God among people
According to the old testament Jews and their traditions  “The word “Messiah” does not mean “savior.” The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a concept that has no basis in the Jewish thought “The Messiah will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The Messiah is often referred to as “Messiah ben David” (Messiah, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments. (Isaiah 11:2-5) He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being…The Messiah will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).”;  The world after the Messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term “messianic age” to refer specifically to the time of the Messiah. Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people. (Isaiah 2:4) Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.
All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated. In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish God as the only true God, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9). There will be no murder, robbery, competition or jealousy. There will be no sin (Zephaniah 3:13). Sacrifices will continue to be brought in the Temple, but these will be limited to thanksgiving offerings, because there will be no further need for expiatory offerings.”  Jews do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. or that  he simply did not fulfill the mission of the Messiah as it is described in the biblical passages here cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the Jewish scriptures said the Messiah would do. According to their iinterpretation
In an accurate translation of the Jewish Scriptures, the word “Moshiach” is never translated as “Messiah,” but as “anointed.” http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/
, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by God to the Jews, Jewish tradition is supposedly now  best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation also  in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.
These specific Old Testament criteria are as follows:
1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy 17:15, Numbers 24:17)
2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct male descendent of both King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalm 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon. (I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)
3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)
4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)
5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)
All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in the book of Ezekiel chapter 37:24-28:
“And My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant…and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.”
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, he according to the basic Jews cannot be the Messiah.” http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/
Obviously for many Jews and Messianic Jews the Jesus of Christianity did not fulfill these requirements Many Messianic Jews and Christian thus believe that the role of Jesus the Messiah will only be fulfilled in the millennium reign of Christ, but is this true, is there a New Testament substantiation of it. No and why is that?
The Jews had looked and looked mainly for a restoration of the former glory of the nation of Israel while Jesus clearly said his kingdom was not of this world. The Jews mostly still were not concerned about getting to Heaven cause they had it made as they were supposedly the chosen ones now..but even this is no true according the new testament.

” Lord, speak to me and I will obey. I know, Lord, that I cannot do anyithing in my strength, but only by Your indwelling strength, the Holy Spirit who  will enable me. Speak, Lord, Your servant is listening.” Is this also now your prayer?

At Mount Sinai God told Moses as to how He would proceed to put the children of Israel in possession of their promised inheritance. He would not drive out the inhabitants of the land “in one year”; but He said, “little by little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.” And He God next goes on to say that He would set the bounds of their possession “from the desert unto the river” (Euphrates), and would “deliver the inhabitants of the land” into their hand, and they should “drive them out” before them (Ex. 23:27-31).

Joshua 1:8 … This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.   “Behold, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them” (Deut. 1:6-8).

“Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be” (Deut. 11:24).   “And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).   And the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ   “For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith” Romans 4:13

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7.   , “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:29   “And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations, and ye have said unto Him, Nay, but set a king over us” (1 Sam. 10:17-19).   Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.







The Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah, the Savior of the World,do show they  they were fulfilled in the Lord Jesus Christ and in the New Testament Church.