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 (Heb 10:31 KJV)  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

It always still amazes me how many pastors lie and say they are doing God’s work and yet they never quote the Bible to anyone, so who are they actually fooling: God, the Bible or mere self, men in reality? When I first examine a pastor I first go to his study and see what books he uses.. over the Bible.. so I can know why he is failing. The Holy Spirit himself in detail too will lead and guide you in all truth.. if you actually are led by him now.
 
It is undeniable fact that these days 70 percent of all pastors are bad, so I have helped to fire many evangelical pastors, founding church pastors as well, I helped to closed two evangelical churches as well. Most pastors still are are sex maniacs , counsel divorce, alcoholics falsely still too.
 
Public exposure and prosecuting of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest.
 
I am no ostrich and I also do  follow what Apostle Paul did, I first had wrote letters to the churches,  members, adherents about their uancceptable sins.. I talk to people I love and rightfully even rebuke them before all as well.
 
Genuine Prophets sill point fingers today and still do ask people to repent.
 
(Rev 2:5 KJV)  Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
 
(Rev 2:16 KJV)  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
 
(Rev 2:21 KJV)  And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
 
(Rev 2:22 KJV)  Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
 
(Rev 3:3 KJV)  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(1 Tim 5:21 KJV)  I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
 
(3 John 1:3 KJV)  For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.
 
(3 John 1:4 KJV)  I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
 
God bless you
 

You cannot judge me

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1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
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2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2 Timothy 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
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Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
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You cannot judge me! Judge not.. I Like those hypocrite who never read the Bible and quote falsely a verse out of the Bible like do not judge others, but they still do judge me when they quoted the verse too.. but yet hypocritically you dare to judge me yourself.. why is that? you personally do not practice the Bible? and clearly still do not practice what you preach to me, others?
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The blind accuser of me, clearly rather the ignorant fool cannot see his own, always still justifiable now too according to him, sin , wrong doing is now still so ready to take on other people sins, but this act of his still will not make his own wrong doings go away ehhh.. He clearly even shows to many his own ignorance in the Bible and his lack of practise in reality, for the Bible does not now forbid judging all others, otherwise why would the fool himself try to do it?
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Was firstly your own exemplary meekness, real love evident or only STILL your false condemnation now of me, and any others? (Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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The Bible forbids only the unrighteous judgment, had you really read it now you would have known that too… do you pick the parts of the Bible you like only or do you apply all the parts of the Bible to yourself firstly such as
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Apostle Paul said he was, is the chief of sinners himself.. “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief .“—I Tim. 1:15 the same Apostle Paul who now also judged and rebuked apostle Peter for his sin as well .The Record of the Apostle Paul Rebuking Peter Galatians 2:11-21 , Apostle Paul Rebuking Peter, Because Peter Was Wrongly Treating the Gentile Believers as Second-class Citizens (Gal 2:11 KJV) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. so you also not longer respect apostle Peter as well because he continually also now sinned while following the Lord Jesus? (Mark 14:72 KJV) And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shall deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.
Webster’s defines the act of judging as “to form an opinion about through careful weighing of evidence and testing of premises.” The problem arises because judging can be subjective. In other words, your judgments are based firstly on your own perceptions, motives, and understandings. This is why two people can judge the exact same situation and come up with different determinations. Did you with Katherine Khulman, examine her whole life, what she lived, preached, taught or just by one bad past act of her you condemned her falsely? Since the judgments of man are therefore rooted in the “opinions” of man or of a women, no man’s judgments can be taken as absolute or complete truth. What did God tell you now about her himself? Jesus was able to hear God’s words to pronounce God’s judgments. “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24). We must have our will in full subjection to God’s which enables us to know God’s own words on every subject and allows us to be sent by God to others with His message. Or did you now even bother to pray to him about her before you ran away with your condemnations? The Word of God says that God enables man to judge righteously, commands man to judge righteously too, and is pleased with those who seek to judge righteously . The fact that the desire to judge righteously is highly esteemed by God. King Solomon asks, “Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?” We are also told not to judge according to appearances or by the flesh (John 7:24; John 8:15; James 2:1-4).
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 This means that sound judgment cannot be based on what we see, hear, or think. Since God’s thoughts and ways are are higher than ours, He is not bound by our perceptions, opinions, or prejudices. This again is a confirmation that God alone is The Judge. Our judgments must therefore be based in His direct words to us in order for them to be true. So how is your real, direct communication now with God, does he talk and commune with you in all things?
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The Bible forbids only the unrighteous judgment,
I Corinthians 11:31-32 that we judge ourselves first so that we will not be judged
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(II Chronicles 19:6) “…Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.”
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A  false “accuser of the brethren.” is evident by ones clear absence of real love for them too.
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(Prov 31:8 KJV) Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. 9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
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(1 Cor 5:12 KJV) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
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(1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
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1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
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(1 Cor 10:15 KJV) I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
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(1 Cor 14:29 KJV) Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
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(1 Cor 14:40 KJV) Let all things be done decently and in order. and “Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus” (Colossians 3:17).
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Galatians 6 1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
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It is always evident that the mostly still liars, people claiming to be good persons, who try to enforce the one way rules on others, those even they do not practice, are still just liars and hypocrites.. and of course they do not want you to judge them, to know and expose this to any others..
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But a person is known by the company they keep.. One having  bad company leads to one going to hell too.. tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are now.. a person is also know by what he does, and the values he or she have.. some people have bad values, some people falsely go extreme with good values..
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Now real Biblical repentance evident and it includes s admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God,  and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition,   change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also  a personal, ongoing event. It is visible to all now too..
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Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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 (Rev 18:4 KJV)  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Rev 18:5 KJV)  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.  
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Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
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Mat 7:19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.  16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17    And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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2 Cor 6:14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Cor 7:1  Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 
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Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. “
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But who am I to say? I’m not his judge”???
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If you yourself now cannot judge what people are like so how can you see the devil then too?
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You yourself are not Holy Spirit filled even then.. one needs to deal with that firstly.. Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments  of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person.. (2 Cor 2:11 KJV)  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
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There is no such thing as living in a world in which individuals are not being judged by others for the actions that they take or what they say. Making a statement such as, “you cannot judge me”, is ludicrous.  A Christian person still can judge another Christian’s individual’s behavior or actions, writings, speech but not the intent of any individual’s heart. Only God can do that.. But God alone will judge the non Christians, not us, and we cannot judge what other people do eat as being right or wrong.
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Had you read your Bible seriously you would have known all this this 
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(1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?
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Prov 27:5  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Rev 3:19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Hey I point something out to a net poster, or a church goer, and he goes haywire.. such as when I honestly, lovingly say as “how can you go to a Christian Church and really, obviously still do not know God, Jesus, the Holy spirit personally”? now have you also experienced that? I have too often for my liking the last 4 decades even.. I am nice to the good persons and the bad person gets what he deserves..
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When we do not like to be rebuked. Revenge and anger tends to amplify our worst  tendencies but we all do need a  stark reminder that all persons now are still  responsible, can be and will be accountable  for what they do, say, in churches, in the open, online or  otherwise. Pastors, elders, individuals included.
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I too do not spoil or baby him, like his mother or someone else likely did .. ehh..  and next he gets really upset, he cannot accept any rebuke, critics, advice.. he gets easily angry, revengeful persons and so on and claims he is a real born again Christian but resorts to a hot temper, to slanders, lies, distortions, fighting, threats, blackmail..  .. so where are, were  their own  fruit of the Holy Spirit?  
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Hey I admit it I dislike those evident  show off, competitive posters, preachers  rather  those still novices, who want to ASAP preach to everyone else, clearly still  not led by the holy spirit, because we the older ones can tell how little they still really do know.. .. it seems they do need their diapers still changed.. “crap”… by the way they do also  often next get really upset and tell me that a man of God does not speak that way to anyone.. they are ignorant of how all the Prophets spoke in the Old Testament Bible.. they also did not use sweet sounding words, pleasant phrases.. God does not spoil us too.. he may be a good of love but he is never ever  dumb, unwise.. I am nice to the good persons and the bad person gets what he deserves..
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(Mat 11:16 KJV)  But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
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drivers will face significant insurance rates

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Look at this, due to the undeniable Recession, budget and tax cuts,  Municipalities across Canada have  been cutting back even on their services, snow clearing now too, which has been leading up to more car accidents, and cause the police cannot tell the truth about their employers, the police now lie, and divert the truth, saying that speeding vehicles were the cause of most of the accidents. In reality now also  speeding also still is not the main reasons for accidents but driving while impaired is..
 
Slippery roads, thousands of traffic collisions  are fuelling the car insurance business where many of these drivers will face significant insurance rates increases next as a result..  SEE ALSO http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/research-on-real-world-behavior-crash-factors/
 
“There’s been more snow and more accidents through the month of December. The Calgary Police Service recorded 6,158 collisions in December, 605 of which involved injury. That’s a significant jump from 4,574 collisions in December 2007. Also SUVs and minivans being the most popular rental choices for winter driving.. However, once you’re behind the wheel of a rental vehicle, you may want to drive cautiously, given that you’ll likely be driving on all-season radials, not snow tires. Few, if any, car rental companies offer winter tires in Calgary. “Snow tires are mandatory only in Quebec due to a new law there that required motorists to install snow tires by Dec. 15 or face fines of up to $300. The  Quebec law has resulted in a shortage of snow tires across Canada.
 
Note this important  brief introduction to road safety and the police .. Yes  you always do have to drive safely, in control, not impaired as well and yes there are many, many different factors that now can cause a vehicular, automotive  accident, including but not limited to the actual daily road conditions, even the type of tires you have .. for  it is a fact that good tires lead to a safer drive, and so does a 4 wheel drive.  Next when you start to first drive at any day do first immediately test the road condition by coming to a planned sudden stop , and see firsthand how your car reacts accordingly.. then next do use this experience to set how you will drive the rest of the day too. And no matter what car, or tires you have, or who is the driver, if you do hit a patch of black ice, due clearly to the failure of others, such as the Governments, municipalities,  to apply salt and gravel on the icy / snowy  road, to falsely try to save money here,  it can be very, very hazardous now too. Give them a fine, ticket, they firstly do deserve it too. Now hypothetical if you do not drive at all you are less likely   to have an   accident, assuming another driver does not hit you while walking..
   
AND THEN WHAT THEY LYING POLICE BLAME THE CITIZENS FOR DRIVING TOO FAST IN POOR WEATHER CONDITIONS, WHEN IT IS THE FAULT OF THE PROVINCIAL, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS FOR NOT KEEPING THE ROADS ADEQUATELY CLEANED, SALTED, GRAVEL?
  
THE LAZY COPS DID NOT WANT TO WORK SO THEY THINK PROPOSING MORE ABSURD TRAFFIC LAWS, SPEED TRAPS, VIDEO CAMERAS, LAWS WILL REDUCE THEIR WORK LOAD EHH..  When even the  police chiefs, police personnel  even are also known to play dirty politics, who can you trust then?
    
” CP TORONTO – Accusations of high-level political interference, petty vindictiveness and tarnished reputations will be on public display this week as Ontario’s top cop heads to court to force an adjudicator he accuses of bias to step down from a police disciplinary hearing.  Like it’s just endless.”” Nasty Fantino battle started with baseball bat, winds through courts 
  
It also seems that  the statistical numbers  for drunk drivers, accidents too  are still startling, too high — and split it seems almost evenly for inside the main cities and in the outlying area where there is less policing too. —   While maybe the police, RCMP may  have a strong feel for the trends on the roads, for speeding, accidents, drunk driving and the impaired numbers maybe are still not causing the police great concern, due to their own priorities and even due to the differing, often in a not fully reliable way that the Police, accident data is collected year to year, Canada wide now too, still the  actual Police statistical values, comparisons are very difficult,  erroneous still and these statistics reporting they need to be seriously improved, and the Police themselves even better managed.
 
And  do you really think that the the majority of the police  who  now are one of the highest paid professionals are firstly doing their Jobs cause they really firstly serving,  are looking after the good welfare of the citizens as they often lie to us and claim they do .. and not cause of the monetary job, fringe benefits ? I would not bet on it not  even on your life..
  
It is an admitted fact we have hired too many bad police officers Canada wide, even in the RCMP.. because exisiting bad mangers hire bad people next too.. thus the police recruitment , hiring, supervision  approach stinks badly.. 
 
“In reality the too often self serving, money hungry, promotional and empire oriented police, and their superiors, bad justice ministers, bad politicians  really do not care about the citizens good welfare but only their own”
    
Here there are 2 main concerns, issues even related TO ACCIDENTS, DRIVERS
1: The rising alcohol consumption, and the rising taxpayer’s costs of alcohol related sickness, accidents
2: The  still inadequate police, RCMP response to impaired drivers, year around.
  
Now I have said it for over 3 decades in writing to all too so now call it what you want but police services generally  it is not about public safety, for it is  a self employment, empire  building, a false money grab, revenue generation, hidden taxes..  for if  the cops, the mad RCMP  were now really worried about public safety THEY WOULD FIRSTLY ARREST THEIR OWN KIND, THE BAD COPS WHO OFTEN DRIVE HOME DRUNK AFTER WORK, COMING HOME FROM THE POLICE TAVERN, and they would ALSO FIRSTLY  go after the people who drive reckless, who  fail to stop at the stop signs, or the  traffic stop lights, and go seriously after the impaired drunken drivers, deal with the unsafe cars whose brakes are squealing cause they need to be repaired.. etc. Cops , civil and public servants too often become perverse persons, unacceptable bullies still too. You and I still do not have to accept such crap.
  
Funny majority  of the accidents still do happen outside of the city but most traffic cops are in the city still too.. 
 
Paradoxically, despite all the dangers, warnings ,  most people continue to drink beyond safe levels on a weekly basis that is more than 14 units of alcohol for women and 21 units for men.   “Reality too many of the binge drinkers., if not already are likely to become hard core alcoholics. The real problem of alcohol misuse was much wider than previously thought   We are drinking more now than we have ever done since before the First World War. We must transform attitudes towards alcohol.   Alcohol, though legal and embedded in our society, is no ordinary commodity. It is very harmful .. never mind the lies, spins,  distortions of the alcohol industries, alcoholics themselves.   Attitudes To Alcohol Must Change.  http://www.emaxhealth.com/2/63/27952/attitudes-alcohol-must-change.html  http://www.emaxhealth.com/2/63/27943/northern-ireland-reports-adult-drinking-patterns.html 
 
Nearly twice as many liquor stores, relatively cheap booze and a pricing system that effectively discounts drinks with more alcohol are contributing to a rise in hazardous drinking, says B.C.’s provincial health officer. The same is true in Alberta and other provinces.  http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_north/lakesdistrictnews/news/36589419.html
 
 Perhaps the most worrying aspect of all is  the frightening age shift in alcohol use. A generation or two ago, the first experiments with binge drinking were at university or during National Service. The “victims” of those generations who started drinking in their late teens and 20s were perhaps better able to cope with the consequences than 10-14 year-olds today. The international evidence is quite clear that the health consequences of alcohol misuse are closely linked to a nation’s total alcohol consumption and the main drivers of this are price and availability.  For liver disease and other medical conditions, there can be a time lag of 10 or more years from the onset of serious drinking to reaping the consequences. Now we are seeing patients, particularly women, in their 20s with advanced alcoholic liver disease – a real tragedy for their family as well as themselves.”  More alcohol use is a concern for health-care professionals, since it means more deaths, illness, injuries and hospital visits, meaning added strain on the health-care system, and additional cost. “There’s 60 different ways in which alcohol can cause premature death and illness,”  Too many cops are alcoholic themselves these days it seems too. Showing justice and compassion is rightfully prosecuting all of  the guilty alcohol and drug offenders.
 
   Honking, fist-shaking, screaming, obnoxious drivers: the symptoms of road rage.    Insurance Corporation of British Columbia  Psychologist John Vavrik, who studies driving behaviour for ICBC, says road rage can be better understood as “aggressive driving spectrum disorder.” According to Vavrik, road rage can take many forms.  “There’s not a clean definition of it. It’s basically an aggressive act aimed at hurting somebody or sending a message to somebody,” Vavrik said.  “The people most at risk of engaging in these behaviours are the least likely to control their behaviour,” he said. “They have low emotional intelligence. They don’t have the tools or skills or strategy to manage their emotions.  “In those extreme cases, we’re talking about sociopathic issues. The driver’s a walking time bomb.”  According to Vavrik, “road-ragers” are generally underachievers, individuals who lack assertiveness and control, and do not have the status in life they desire.  He said the “depersonalized space” of a vehicle is a trigger to road rage, as is an unexpected traffic delay, such as that caused by a slow driver, or being stuck behind an idle bus.
 http://www.timescolonist.com/Road+ragers+generally+underachievers+psychologist/1443637/story.html
Now we know that more people have accident due to road rage, impaired driving, driving under the influence of drugs, alcohol  over speeding too and we still do need to review how much time and resources do the police deal with that firstly? ” 
  
Despite plunging sales in almost every sector, alcohol sales are on the rise in Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta  and in other provinces over last year . If you drive at twice the legal alcohol limit you are at least 30 times more likely to cause a road crash than a driver who hasn’t been drinking. Alcohol abuse is a problem that is expected to become increasingly common as baby boomers, who have been found to drink more than previous generations, reach age 65 and beyond. “A lot of folks over 50 are already dealing with diseases associated with aging and medication use that can result in possible complications and drug interactions. And older people who abuse alcohol are consuming an inordinate amount of calories that can displace important nutrients.” It is just a fact, common sense that  “even at lower levels of consumption, alcohol can be problematic for older people.” 
 
More drunk drivers,  motorists are hitting the sauce before hitting the road this holiday season too. About 1 percent of  the drivers stopped are charged  with impaired driving offences during the generally only one month long  Police province wide drunk drivers check stop campaigns . 
  
In 2006, 232 Ontarians were killed in traffic accidents in which alcohol was a factor.  “We’ve had an increased number of impaired driving fatalities in Ontario though we’re still seeing a downward trend in Ontario,” is still not enough policing here.
 
An Australian study estimates that about half of all traffic accidents in Australia may be due to road rage and most of the others related to alcohol, impaired driving and yet the police falsely tend to pursue revenue generating speeding traffic tickets still and why?   Road rage is a relatively serious act; it can  be seen as a violation of human and property rights , an endangerment of  other’s personal well being, security. 
 
“The Canadian Press TORONTO – The head of the Ontario Provincial Police says drivers who crash in bad weather because of their own negligence should have to pay the bill.  Commissioner Julian Fantino will propose absolute liability legislation today under the Highway Traffic Act to hold irresponsible drivers accountable. This essentially means making drivers pay for accidents in which they were driving aggressively in poor weather, not insurance companies  Fantino says at least 40 per cent of crashes are caused because people are going too fast in poor conditions and not paying attention.  He says his proposal targets people “who could care less” about how they are driving when the roads are bad.   Fantino says his proposal mirrors laws currently on the books in almost every state in the U.S.”
 
A study of the figures in the British Medical Journal showed a  gap between police and hospital data  showed a wide divergence in these figures   said one of the authors of the article, Mike Gill, professor of public health at Surrey University. The Police are known  to lie, and  they try to please their political bosses , to get a raise by generating revenue from traffic tickets too..
  
Now drivers getting better winter, all season tires would be also a better move.. brakes repaired regularly too. and while automotive  death rates have fallen drastically in the last decade in Canada too , the ubiquitous use of cell phones and BlackBerrys while driving pose a serious danger to drivers and others still too. 
“Even so, snow tires are still a wise choice for motorists in southern Ontario, too. However, a snow tire is no surety against the repercussions of reckless or dangerous driving. And that’s the key thing.   More often than not, vehicular collisions on winter roads aren’t caused by the lack of snow tires on a vehicle. It’s (ALSO NOT ) caused by motorists who are driving too fast or not accordingly to the conditions.  This is also what Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Julian Fantino (FALSELY) touched upon this week when he urged the government to increase fines and demerit points for drivers speeding in bad weather conditions – whether it’s snow, heavy rain or thick fog.  Fantino’s pitch came on the heels of a weekend that saw provincial police officers respond to more than 3,000 collisions as large swaths of the province were walloped by two snowstorms. At least 40% of crashes are caused by speeding in poor conditions and not paying attention, Fantino said. (His  unofficial, unreliable statistics, remark NOW  refers to a small period of accidents and not RATHER  the  true statistics for the whole year firstly  since most accidents are caused by rage, impaired driving, poor drivers, vehciles and driver errors). The Highway Traffic Act already has provisions and penalties for speeding and careless driving. Do we really need another section in the Act that specifically addresses bad driving in poor weather?  No, we don’t.  What we do need is the strict enforcement of existing traffic laws – not just about speeding but also signaling turns and taking the proper precautions before changing lanes.”  http://www.tirereview.com/default.aspxtype=wm&module=4&id=2&state=DisplayFullText&item=13392
Furthermore I call Commissioner Julian Fantino a liar and I do ask him SPECIFICALLY to prove with Honourable statistics  that at least 40 per cent of the ROAD crashes are caused SOLELY because car drivers, truck drivers  are going too fast in poor road conditions, unrelated to any other factors now too. We all can play on statistics anyway we want, but let’s us have the whole truth rather  here too.. while
   
” official statistics showed that only five per cent of crashes are caused by drivers breaking the speed limit. Drivers who let their attention wander cause more than six times as many accidents.” Driver error accounted for 66 per cent of accidents.. and add the road rage, impaired, drunk drivers, bad poorly maintained vehicles to that too .. Most reasonable and reasoning people have seen the folly of speed cameras for decades now too. 
  
Many people Canada wide do now often complain about still being harassed, bullied by Traffic cops and getting unecessary traffic tickets, especialy it seems in Ontario, Alberta too. Cops are no angels themselves for sure.  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/speed-related-highway-fatalities/
  
 The insurance industry itself too  often sleeps with legislators, cops because it wants to make loads of money by finding out reasons not to pay out as well.. they support traffic tickets even though they do not reduce the car accidents significantly cause it gives more money to the insurance firms,  this is immoral gouging of consumers too often rather too.. now what about having some honest watchdogs and legislators rather. Go after the drunk drivers, raise the price of the booze firstly..
 
Hey even  many cops are lazy, they also do want to be paid for doing nothing, but merely driving around , speeding too for they get a rush doing this as  I  have often  witnessed it myself. Too bad for them they are paid to work still too. Maybe we can outlaw citizens driving any cars all together that way the cops and legislators too can still  get paid and not have much to do.
   
  
 ”  Some cops guilty of reckless policing . So why is that so many police officers go brain dead when assigned to traffic duty? Answer me that.    “http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/driving
 
 
Even Premier Dalton McGuinty at it again? Premier Dalton McGuinty says he won’t be forcing Ontario motorists to use snow tires during the winter.  not following the lead of Quebec, which introduced mandatory snow tire legislation.. so he uses another back door.. that will costs the citizens a lot more money… liability legislation today under the Highway Traffic Act to hold the supposedly irresponsible drivers accountable.Shortage of governmental money means rather  another hidden Ontario tax too.
 
 

 

 
 
 

 

Here are other interesting blogs about the bad police in Ottawa and in Ontario you can look into more further too. 
 
Paul Kambulow Bachelor of Civil Engineering, Montreal, Quebec

  

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: So the Cops and others still lie too

Thank you for your email.  Looks like a gift to private insurance companies.

>http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/cops-lie-too/

 

 >From: “Nicholson, Robert Douglas – Assistant 1″ <NichoR0@parl.gc.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:30 PM
To:  anonconformer
Subject: FW: MP’s mailout proves he’s just being muzzled – Brantford Expositor – Ontario, CA and what Next???
> This is all very interesting. Sorry that you feel that way, but what does it have to do with this office???
> Richard Johnson
> Parliamentary Assistant to
> Hon. Rob Nicholson, M.P.
> Minister of Justice & Attorney General of Canada
> Sent: January 5, 2009 3:15 PM
> To: info@liberal.ca; Prime Minister’s Office; Nicholson, Robert Douglas – M.P.; Day, Stockwell – M.P.;
> Subject: MP’s mailout proves he’s just being muzzled – Brantford Expositor – Ontario, CA and what Next???
> MP’s mailout proves he’s just being muzzled
> Our Conservative MP has sent to all households, at taxpayers’ expense, a so-called newsletter (trimmed in the Conservative colour of choice, blue), which mentions virtually nothing about Brant, the riding he represents.
> Like all Harper MPs, he is told what to say and write and, as the message from Conservative Party headquarters must be applicable to all parts of Canada, little mention is made of an MP’s riding or the MP’s constituents.
> The content of the newsletter, apart from a generic piece about Remembrance Day, is simply Conservative Party propaganda with, most oddly, no mention at all of the Prime Minister’s decision to prorogue Parliament after sitting only 12 days.
> A shaky start for an MP who said he wouldn’t be muzzled — all Conservative MPs are muzzled by Stephen Harper and our MP is clearly no exception.
> Andrew Hunter Brantford
> http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1372571
> and what are you going to come after me next too again?
 
and how is the snow removal services , road CLEARING services in the rest of Canada, STILL POOR, pretentious? in Alberta and in Ontario now too?

Shocked

I am really grateful for my Pastor  Jesus Christ.

You have to be called directly, personally by God to be a pastor,. and God will next give you the love for the job, the people, he will God equip you for all of the tasks.. still sadly many Pastors still are not God called, but self chosen..

A pastor’s commitment next to his people includes first keeping his commitment to serve God firstly, not man or self.. A pastor admitted to me he did not have a full commitment to God.. I was shocked at his still corruption

It was a great shock to me when I had switched over to the Pentecostal faith from the Brethren, Baptist faith to see just as many bad and, crooked pastors there now too..

Pastors too, no matter to  what or to whom you attribute the sin in your life, you are still a sinner that is going to hell unless you overcome that sin by Jesus Christ

The BASIC issue about too many bad pastors even these days now  is not just about the Pentecostal PASTORS but the subject OF TOO MANY bad pastors we seem to have in most denominations still too and STILL why?

Even because many of these BAD people, bad pastors EVEN THE too often false critics are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too. They need to grow up spiritually as well. Are any of you, Pastors, elders, now claiming to be a better teacher, guide than the Holy Spirit himself?  so where is your evidence of being spirit filled, evidence of real  love too?

Where is the power of God that we see in the Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible?

Follow the Anointing Luke 4:14 “And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” Over the years many have questioned the lack of power in their Baptism of the Holy Spirit as opposed to what they read in Scripture and the New Testament and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Sadly too often the pastors tend to be legalists sadly.. control freaks, abusive persons due to a false pride, and their religion rather too often a mere cultural movement, it seems..

I had to call the police against a crooked AOG pastor who was abusing me, stealing money, stealing from his flock in my witness too. I am known for and I like to deal with the whole truth too..

Pastors too often still do falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also too often do still preach. Pastors have to firstly be a good example of what they preach to others as well..

So the other real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word , Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit.. and the answer is yes… all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.

Over 30 percent of evangelical church persons, pastors included practise div0rce, counsel  divorce and I can also assure you these too often sex manics  they are also guilty of many, many other sinful acts in reality too.

Generally these days it is the wife who wrongfully files for divorce,and  before that it used to be the men.  These days the too often dirty lawyers who make blood money from divorce, are wolves in sheep clothing now picturing them slves and  the spouse to the courts, as good persons, decent, honest, relaible, falsely claiming her now to be a totally good , honest person, and not another typical  liar too.
 
The lawyers who tend to be too often liars themselves they like to present the female spouse before the Queen’s courts, before the supposedly reputable judge, who in my witness, experiences actual too often is also now a liar, pretender himself, a person  who does not get off the bench cause he is too lazy to ascertain the truth of the facts being presented to him or her.
 
The lawyers like to present the wife as a decent, respected, good, moral person who now has provided faithfully  for her husband, she did not, does not abuse any them not even her bad  husband, she does not cheat, lie or steal now as well.
 
The still mostly  liars like to present her as an a good person, whereas more likely in reality  she also is another demon. In fact men and women tend to be equal sinners, before God and man. In fact the same spouse she likely has slandered, lied, committed adultery, even stole from her spouse and now she will keep on lying, perjuring herself hoping next to get a good alimony support from her spouse.
 
Many a person  when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact.  
 
All of a sudden clearly new now  openly monsters here have arisen.  In reality  the wife is not the mostly   innocent, the sole injured party and the husband is not the sole bad guy, villain too.
 
All of these mostly immoral,  lying now people, bad pastors, bad spouses, bad laywers, bad judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
 
  Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable.

 

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Dedicated to Ostriches

(Mat 16:22 KJV)  Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
 
(Mat 18:7 KJV)  Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 
One of the most serious religious tragedy I have encountered in the last 5  decades is the ostrich Christianity, that contradicts the Bible..
 
There are various forms of this ostrich Christianity such as :
-You shall not judge,
-God is merciful, forgiving
-We live in the period of grace
-God will forgive all sins
 

 
but here again is what the Bible actually says
 
(John 5:14 KJV)  Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
 
(John 8:11 KJV)  She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
 
(1 Cor 6:9 KJV)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10   Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 
(Mat 18:15 KJV)  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.
18  Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19  Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20  For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
 
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 
(Mat 10:36 KJV)  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
 
(Luke 12:15 KJV)  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
 
(Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
 
(Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
(Luke 12:57 KJV)  Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
 
(John 7:24 KJV)  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
 
(Rom 2:16 KJV)  In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
 
(1 Cor 5:12 KJV)  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
 
(1 Cor 6:2 KJV)  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
 
(1 Cor 6:3 KJV)  Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
 
(1 Cor 6:5 KJV)  I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
 
(1 Cor 11:31 KJV)  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
 
(1 Cor 14:29 KJV)  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
 
(Heb 10:30 KJV)  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
 
(Heb 13:4 KJV)  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
 
(Rev 19:11 KJV)  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
 
Both Pentecostals- Charismatic and  Evangelical Christians it seems still do bad things, and they are too slow to repent of their sins.. but so was King David now too. but he too did not get away with it.. God dealt with  him on it too.

Now Dispensationalists, Fundamentalist have also been too often known to have missed the boat, been wrong on their preachy interpretations, predictions too.

When Will Jesus Christ Return? What Jesus and the Bible have to say.. what you are really  like when he comes back is the important issue too..
 
“Modern-day “prophets” are a dime-a-dozen. In fact, there are more false prophets and false teachers now than in any time in the history of the world. One thing they have in common is prophecies concerning visitations from Christ and His second coming.
 
What would you say if a person told you that: Jesus Christ physically appeared to me last night and said His second coming will be one year from today(?).
 
Answer: Which Jesus? The Bible warns Christians about the counterfeit Jesus (Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Corinthians 11:3-4), and that Satan appears as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). Therefore, which is more important; what people say, or what Jesus and the Bible teach?
 
If the person says, Jesus and the Bible, then share what Jesus and the Bible have to say in the following Scriptures:
 
Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him (Matthew 24:23).
 
So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them (Matthew 24:26). 
 
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone (Matthew 24:36).
 
Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming (Matthew 24:42).
 
For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will (Matthew 24;44).
 
But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone (Mark 13:32).
 
He said to them, It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority (Acts 1:7).
 
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up (2 Peter 3:10).
 
For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night (1 Thessalonians 5:2).
 
Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen (Revelation 1:7).
 
So remember what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come to you (Revelation 3:3).
 
Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame (Revelation 16:15).
 
And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and  a cloud received Him out of their sight. And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them. They also said, Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven (Acts 1:9-11).
 
Although many modern-day prophets have tried and failed miserably, no man or woman knows when Jesus Christ will return. However, Jesus Christ will return:
 
Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also (John 14:1-3).
 
But for the time being, Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father in heaven:
 
So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God (Mark 16:19).

 

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Generally these days it is the wife who wrongfully files for divorce,and  before that it used to be the men.  These days the too often dirty lawyers who make blood money from divorce, are wolves in sheep clothing now picturing them slves and  the spouse to the courts, as good persons, decent, honest, relaible, falsely claiming her now to be a totally good , honest person, and not another typical  liar too.
 
The lawyers who tend to be too often liars themselves they like to present the female spouse before the Queen’s courts, before the supposedly reputable judge, who in my witness, experiences actual too often is also now a liar, pretender himself, a person  who does not get off the bench cause he is too lazy to ascertain the truth of the facts being presented to him or her.
 
The lawyers like to present the wife as a decent, respected, good, moral person who now has provided faithfully  for her husband, she did not, does not abuse any them not even her bad  husband, she does not cheat, lie or steal now as well.
 
The still mostly  liars like to present her as an a good person, whereas more likely in reality  she also is another demon. In fact men and women tend to be equal sinners, before God and man. In fact the same spouse she likely has slandered, lied, committed adultery, even stole from her spouse and now she will keep on lying, perjuring herself hoping next to get a good alimony support from her spouse.
 
Many a person  when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact.  
 
All of a sudden clearly new now  openly monsters here have arisen.  In reality  the wife is not the mostly   innocent, the sole injured party and the husband is not the sole bad guy, villain too.
 
All of these mostly immoral,  lying now people, pastors too often now too, bad spouses, bad laywers, bad judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
 
  Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable.

Paradoxically, despite all the dangers, warnings

Paradoxically, despite all the dangers, warnings ,  most people continue to drink beyond safe levels on a weekly basis that is more than 14 units of alcohol for women and 21 units for men. At the heart of this strange contradiction is a false belief, best encapsulated by the former Prime Minister in his introduction to the first national alcohol strategy. In the document, Tony Blair assured readers that “alcohol misuse by a small minority” was responsible for the rising levels of social and health harm. In short, problem drinkers are “other people”, spoiling it for the rest of us. In reality this is not so.. Drinking alcohol  has become too common amongst too many people.
 
Holiday stress, along with getting laid off, has caused too many a person to start drinking heavily and this situation is not unusual.. Sadly when most people think about the upcoming holidays, they think about friends, family, food and good cheer. And for many people, the weeks between Thanksgiving and New Year’s are still particularly difficult. Financial problems are tough to handle for most people at any time, but they can seem overwhelming during this season of giving. Due to unresolved stress Feelings of loneliness, isolation and despair may also intensify but alcohol and drugs are never the answer still. Unfortunately, your friend’s   Many people turn to alcohol falsely believing that it helps them to relax and to cope with stress and worry. And because many people think that New Year’s Eve and similar occasions must always be celebrated with alcohol, it’s often readily available, providing another excuse to drink. It actually will likely cause more problems, and not effectively deal with the ones still not resolved Many people next tend to go to excess, extremes, and   drinking larger amounts of alcohol can increase the risk of a deadly form of liver damage called cirrhosis, heart disease, some types of cancer and injuries. And even moderate drinking can often have harmful consequences in the wrong setting, such as one should not    drink and drive, and drinking alcohol during a pregnancy may  seriously harm a developing baby. Alcohol dependence, also called alcoholism, often  means that if a person tries to stop or cut back on drinking, he or she may experience anxiety, sweating, trembling, trouble sleeping, nausea and vomiting. Drinking can be risky even for people who aren’t dependent on it. It may seriously still interfere with sleep and productivity, strain close relationships and get in the way of spending time with loved ones. It not only also puts the drinker at risk for becoming alcohol dependent as well as developing alcohol-related health problems. Too many people who really do now suffer from a drinking problem claim still don’t believe that anything is wrong. They faley try to justify that they’re drinking to cope with a particularly stressful time. In their mind, suppposedly the basic stress is the unresolved problem, not the drinking. They say they can stop drinking whenever they want, but they don’t. Two wrongs do nto make one right here too.  Denial is a common obstacle that prevents many people from seeking help.
 
It’s also worrying that motorists are continuing to ignore the drink-drive message. ‘The anti-drinking and driving message has to be got across, not just at this time of year but at all times.’ ‘There is no safe option to drink alcohol if you’re planning on getting behind the wheel.  ‘There is also no fail-safe guide as to how to stay under the legal drink drive limit – that’s why we are urging people to not drink at all if they have a vehicle with them.
 
“Make a choice and stick to it – drink or drive. “Don’t drink and drive,”  If you drive at twice the legal alcohol limit you are at least 30 times more likely to cause a road crash than a driver who hasn’t been drinking. If you plan to drive the only safe option is not to drink. Drivers’ reaction times and motoring skills deteriorate after even a small amount of alcohol – and get worse with increased alcohol consumption. If you are convicted for a drink-driving offence you will have a criminal record, lose your licence for a minimum of one year, may go to prison for up to six months, may have to pay a significant fine  and you may have difficulty hiring a car within 10 years of your conviction. If you are convicted of causing death by careless driving while under the influence of drink you face up to 14 years in prison, an unlimited fine and a minimum two-year driving ban. Other consequences include:
-facing exceptionally high insurance costs once you get your licence back.
-loss of a job (15 per cent of those convicted do), legal expenses and loss of personal transport and increased travel expenses.
-living with the knowledge that your irresponsibility has caused death, injury or severe distress to innocent people.

 
 
 A research report providing results from a survey of adult drinking in Northern Ireland has been published .
 
Reality too many of the binge drinkers., if not already are likely to become hard core alcoholics.
 

 

The survey, conducted on behalf of the Department of Health, Social Services and Public Safety, examines the amount people drink, when, where and what they drink and who they drink with.

 It also examines how drinking behaviours vary across different sections of the public, the proportion of people who binge drink, problem drinking, and perceptions of drinking.

Key Findings

The key findings relating to the Adult Drinking Patterns Survey in Northern Ireland 2008 are:

* More than seven in ten (72%) adults drink alcohol.

* A larger proportion of males (74%) than females (70%) drink alcohol.

* Most drinking occurs over the weekend and peaks on Saturdays.

* The most common drink consumed is wine (50%), closely followed by beer (48%).

* Most of those who drank in the week prior to the survey had consumed alcohol at home (64%), and nearly one quarter (24%) had consumed alcohol in a pub.

* More than four in five (81%) respondents had exceeded the recommended daily limits during the week prior to the survey.

* Approximately four in five males (79%) and females (83%) exceed their recommended daily limits during the week prior to the survey.

* Nearly one quarter (24%) of respondents drank above the weekly sensible levels.

* Over one quarter (26%) of male respondents and over one fifth (22%) of female respondents drank above the weekly sensible levels in the week prior to the survey.

* Nearly a third (32%) of those who drank in the week before the survey had engaged in at least one binge drinking session.

* Males (35%) were more likely than females (29%) to binge drink.

* Over half (54%) of drinkers aged 18-29 years engaged in at least one binge drinking session in the week prior to the survey, and they are more likely to binge drink than respondents in the older groups.

* One in 10 respondents (10%) of those who drank in the week prior to the survey are highly likely to have a problem with alcohol, according to the CAGE analysis.

* Over half (56%) of those who consumed alcohol in the week prior to the survey considered themselves to be light drinkers, two in five (40%) considered themselves to be moderate drinkers and 4% considered themselves to be heavy drinkers.

Comparisons between 2005 and 2008 are:

* The proportion of adults who drank above the weekly sensible levels in the week prior to the survey significantly decreased from 29% in 2005 to 24% in 2008.

* The proportion of adults who engaged in at least one binge drinking session in the week prior to the survey significantly decreased from 38% in 2005 to 32% in 2008.

 

 

 

 

 
Attitudes To Alcohol Must Change. A health Minister  has called for a change in attitudes towards alcohol by both the public and the drinks industry all year now too. Statistics which show an increase of in the number of people   binge drinking, getting drunk  and that the statistics also show that we still have a long way to deal with this major problem. 81% of people who choose to drink are still exceeding the recommended daily limits. The cost of alcohol misuse to our society is very real. In just over 10 years, there has been a startling 86% increase in the numbers of people dying due to alcohol related harm. “Now, more than ever, we should all be working together to really tackle this issue head on and I believe the drinks industry has a key role to play. Supermarkets in particular sell alcohol far too cheaply. I am extremely disappointed that despite having met with each of the major supermarkets, and received their personal assurances that they take this matter extremely seriously, those words have not as yet translated into meaningful action. “On the contrary, they are flooded with festive drinks promotions that will only encourage people to indulge further in binge drinking. This, in my view, is totally unacceptable.   Action speaks louder than words. On this occasion, profit is being put before public health.”  “The harsh reality is that although alcohol misuse is known to be damaging and harmful to health and well-being, many people still drink to excess. This must change, and in this respect we all have a collective responsibility in tackling this issue – individuals, society, government and the drinks industry alike.”    http://www.emaxhealth.com/2/63/27952/attitudes-alcohol-must-change.html

 

People are drinking more alcohol in many societies than ever before. In the UK, Ireland, Denmark, and increasingly Australia, young people drink more alcohol than those in the USA, France, and other Mediterranean countries. The way in which adolescents drink in different countries also varies. Frequency of drinking, regular drunkenness, binge drinking, and being drunk before the age of 13 years, are all indicators of an unhealthy pattern of alcohol misuse that is becoming more common. So, for example, 27% of UK 15-year-olds admit to drinking at least five drinks in a row in the past 30 days compared with 22% in 1995; in girls, as many as 29% binge drink. In the USA, 19% of 15-year-olds binge drink. Accidental death, self-harm, suicide, injury, violent behaviour, unprotected sex, alcohol dependence, and liver disease can all result. Nearly half of the alcohol drunk by these young people comes from the family home. Supermarkets, local shops, off-licences, pubs, and clubs provide the rest.  http://madhavgopalkrish.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/more-young-people-drink-more/?referer=sphere_related_content/
 
“Reality too many of the binge drinkers., if not already are likely to become hard core alcoholics. The real problem of alcohol misuse was much wider than previously thought   We are drinking more now than we have ever done since before the First World War.
 Perhaps the most worrying aspect of all is  the frightening age shift in alcohol use. A generation or two ago, the first experiments with binge drinking were at university or during National Service. The “victims” of those generations who started drinking in their late teens and 20s were perhaps better able to cope with the consequences than 10-14 year-olds today.
 The international evidence is quite clear that the health consequences of alcohol misuse are closely linked to a nation’s total alcohol consumption and the main drivers of this are price and availability.

 

Holiday stress, along with getting laid off, has caused too many a person to start drinking heavily and this situation is not unusual.. Sadly when most people think about the upcoming holidays, they think about friends, family, food and good cheer. And for many people, the weeks between Thanksgiving and New Year’s are still particularly difficult. Financial problems are tough to handle for most people at any time, but they can seem overwhelming during this season of giving. Due to unresolved stress Feelings of loneliness, isolation and despair may also intensify but alcohol and drugs are never the answer still. Unfortunately, your friend’s   Many people turn to alcohol falsely believing that it helps them to relax and to cope with stress and worry. And because many people think that New Year’s Eve and similar occasions must always be celebrated with alcohol, it’s often readily available, providing another excuse to drink. It actually will likely cause more problems, and not effectively deal with the ones still not resolved Many people next tend to go to excess, extremes, and   drinking larger amounts of alcohol can increase the risk of a deadly form of liver damage called cirrhosis, heart disease, some types of cancer and injuries. And even moderate drinking can often have harmful consequences in the wrong setting, such as one should not    drink and drive, and drinking alcohol during a pregnancy may  seriously harm a developing baby. Alcohol dependence, also called alcoholism, often  means that if a person tries to stop or cut back on drinking, he or she may experience anxiety, sweating, trembling, trouble sleeping, nausea and vomiting. Drinking can be risky even for people who aren’t dependent on it. It may seriously still interfere with sleep and productivity, strain close relationships and get in the way of spending time with loved ones. It not only also puts the drinker at risk for becoming alcohol dependent as well as developing alcohol-related health problems. Too many people who really do now suffer from a drinking problem claim still don’t believe that anything is wrong. They faley try to justify that they’re drinking to cope with a particularly stressful time. In their mind, suppposedly the basic stress is the unresolved problem, not the drinking. They say they can stop drinking whenever they want, but they don’t. Two wrongs do nto make one right here too.  Denial is a common obstacle that prevents many people from seeking help.

For liver disease and other medical conditions, there can be a time lag of 10 or more years from the onset of serious drinking to reaping the consequences. Now we are seeing patients, particularly women, in their 20s with advanced alcoholic liver disease – a real tragedy for their family as well as themselves.”

Unacceptable Violence Against Christians

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Thursday, October 16, 2008

Orgy Of Violence Against Christians


Christian nuns in Orissa appeal for an end to the onslaught

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2:30pm UK, Wednesday October 15, 2008
Alex Crawford in Orissa
Tens of thousands of Christians have been made homeless after an orgy of violence by Hindu hardliners in the east Indian state of Orissa.

More than 300 villages have been destroyed and more than 4,000 homes burnt in violent attacks which have been going on since August and show no sign of stopping.

The Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh has now sent hundreds of paramilitary troops to the area to try to stop the persecution which he’s called the nation’s shame.

Nearly 60 people have been killed, 18,000 injured and there are scores of reports about gang rapes, including of one nun.

Fourteen districts in the area have been affected and more than 200 hundred churches destroyed.
Many of the Christians have criticised the state police for not doing enough and in some cases they have been accused of adding to the violence and intimidation.

More than 1,000 people crowd around stick fences in the Naugaon refuge camp in the Khandamal district of Orissa as guards patrol outside.

This is the area which has seen the worst violence and the 400 families crowded into this camp are only a few miles away from their former homes.

They came in their hundreds and just ransacked our homes, setting them on fire. If you didn’t run away, you were beaten. They told us we could only stay if we converted to Hinduism. Otherwise, they said they would kill us.

One woman reveals the hardliners’ brutal treatment.
The camp may now be guarded by paramilitary police but they still cannot prevent attacks. The camp has had two firebombs thrown into it.

The tales these people tell of the cruelty wrought upon them is shocking.

One victim’s lip quivered uncontrollably as she told us how she watched her brother being burned alive by the Hindu mobs.
“They came in their hundreds and just ransacked our homes, setting them on fire. If you didn’t run away, you were beaten. They told us we could only stay if we converted to Hinduism. Otherwise, they said they would kill us,” she said.

The trouble began when a prominent Hindu leader was killed in mid-August. He had been leading a campaign to convert Christians to Hinduism.

Many of his followers believed his killers were Christians, despite the police saying there was no evidence of this.

They embarked on an orgy of revenge and it still has not stopped.

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Tensions, attacks continue in India

Posted on Oct 13, 2008 | by Vishal Arora/Compass Direct News
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NEW DELHI, India (BP)–After police in India’s state of Orissa confirmed Oct. 6 that a key Hindu nationalist was killed by Maoists, a Hindu extremist group allegedly circulated forged documents in an attempt to implicate a local church in the Aug. 23 murder.

The Hindu Jagaran Samukhya (Society for Revival of Hinduism or HJS) circulated documents saying that Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati’s killed in Orissa’s Kandhamal district was planned at a meeting at Bethikala Church on May 25 attended by 17 people following a briefing and order by religious leaders, the Press Trust of India news agency reported Oct. 9.

Local Christian leaders responded by saying they will file defamation charges.

“We will file both civil and criminal defamation cases against the person who made such allegations,” Joseph Kalathil of the Catholic Archbishop in Bhubaneswar and Prafulla Ku Sabhapati, president of the Bethikala Parish Council of Kandhamal, said in a statement. “Not only our signatures were forged, the contents of the documents were also fabricated.”

Orissa state police confirmed that Maoists killed Saraswati after a communist leader told NDTV 24X7 news that his organization was behind the murder, targeting Saraswati as a key leader of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council or VHP).

“We left two letters claiming responsibility for the murders,” said Sabyasachi Panda, chief of the Orissa unit of the banned Communist Party of India-Maoist.

Panda said the government of Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik “suppressed those letters.” The Orissa government, which is affiliated with the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), will support the World Hindu Council, Panda said. “The state government made it look like Christian groups were responsible for the attack. The Christian community in Orissa does not
have any Maoist organization supporting them here,” Panda said.

In another development, The Indian Express reported that the Orissa police had arrested three tribal Christians in connection with Saraswati’s murder and obtained confessions of their involvement.

A representative of the Christian Legal Association told Compass Direct News that, according to Orissa sources, the police had tortured the three Christians to pressure them to confess to a crime they did not commit.

After the assassination of Saraswati, Hindu extremist groups blamed local Christians and began attacks on them, their houses and their churches in spite of the Orissa police and media stating on the day of the murder that suspected Maoists had killed Saraswati.

According to the All India Christian Council, more than 60 people have been killed, more than 18,000 injured and around 4,500 houses and churches destroyed in the “retributive” violence. Two Christian women, including a nun, reportedly were gang-raped. The violence, which later spread to at least 14 districts of Orissa, has left more than 50,000 people homeless.

In Kandhamal and other districts, the violence continues seven weeks after the violence began.

About 15 houses were burned down Oct. 9 by a mob in the Lansaripalli village in the neighboring Boudh district, The Hindu reported. The attackers allegedly came from the Gochhapada area of Kandhamal district.

“Thursday’s was the third incident in Boudh district,” the daily added. “More than 100 houses were burnt down in two separate attacks in the past few days.”

On Oct. 8, a mob burned and looted at least 25 houses of Christians in the Balligada village in Kandhamal, Ajay Singh of the Catholic Archdiocese of Bhubaneswar told Compass.

On Oct. 7, five or more houses were torched in Jalespanga area of Kandhamal. Another house was burned in the Sujeli village.

The Hindu said the more than 16,000 Christians living in various relief camps were not returning to their villages, fearing attacks on them if they refused to convert to Hinduism.

Singh, of the Bhubaneswar Archdiocese, told Compass that more than 12,000 Christians from various relief camps had moved out of Kandhamal to other districts and states, as they feared more attacks.

The president of the VHP, Ashok Singhal, told India’s Zee News channel on Oct. 5, “What Hindu organizations including the VHP, the Bajrang Dal and the RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, India’s chief Hindu nationalist group] are doing in Orissa is all legal and is the reaction of the murder of VHP leader Saraswati, who was like Jesus Christ to us.”

In an interview with The Week magazine published the same day, Singhal said Hindu youth are “ready to die and, if necessary, to kill. [Their] patience is ebbing.”

Singhal added that a “Hindu uprising” had begun, “and the political parties will have to rethink and reinvent themselves, for their own existence. If there is no arrangement for Hindus’ security, they’ll do it on their own. … If that self-defence is militancy, so be it….”

In addition, a leader of the Bajrang Dal in the southern state of Karnataka admitted to supporting recent attacks on churches while speaking to The Week magazine. “We supported those who attacked the churches, as it is a justified fight,” Bajrang Dal convenor Mahendra Kumar said.

The violence in Orissa spread to several other states, including Karnataka, where around 20 churches were destroyed and 20 Christians were attacked in the recent weeks.

As many political parties and rights groups have demanded a ban on the Bajrang Dal for attacking Christians and churches in Orissa and other states, the federal government ruled by the United Progressive Alliance has mandated that the National Integration Council give its recommendations, the Times of India reported Oct. 10.

The Bajrang Dal, however, warned that any such move would have “grave consequences” for the government politically, saying there was “no legal ground” for such action.

There are some 900,000 Christians in Orissa, which has a population of 36.8 million.

Compass Direct News, based in Santa Ana, Calif., provides reports on Christians worldwide who are persecuted for their faith.

Tuesday, October 14, 2008

RALLY IN FRONT OF THE UNITED NATIONS -NY OCT 11th 2008

Dear Friends,

A Rally was organized in Newyork in front of UN Headquarters to protest the violence against Christians in India.
The link to view these pictures and videos
http://picasaweb.google.com/persis61/RallyINFRONTOFTHEUNITEDNATIONSNYOct11th2008#slideshow

God Bless You

Monday, October 13, 2008

Christians fear the sword and fire in India

The Indian government has not placed the onus of the multiple murders, rapes, and arson on the culprits: Hindu extremists.

by Joseph D Souza and John Dayal
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Our community is facing a trial by gun, sword, fire and rapine, the worst crisis it has seen in its 2,000 year old history in India, one of the earliest homelands of the faith. There is ethnic cleansing of Christians in Orissa where violence continues unabated for 45 day at the hands of bloodthirsty gangs Civil Society identifies as the Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad. So far 300 villages have been cleansed of all Christians, the 17,000 or so in government’s refugee camps have been told they can go home only if they become Hindus. More than 4,000 houses and more than 100 churches have been burnt. Perhaps thirty thousand or more, more than half of them children are hiding in forests or are living as Internally Displaced Persons. More than 50 have been butchered, often burnt alive.

A nun and an uncounted number of other women have been gang raped. Gender violence was one of the unspoken traumas of the widespread violence in Orissa in December2007. For all practical purposes, Orissa seems not to be a part of India where the rule of law operates, and the Indian Constitution remains operative.

Orissa is ruled by a coalition of the Biju Janata Dal and the Bharatiya Janata party [BJP]. The violence has spread to other States ruled by the BJP, including Karnataka, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, and Uttarakhand. Other States have not remained untouched, and Jharkhand, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Delhi have also seen demolition of churches, the maiming or killing of priests.

A Constitutional authority as the Leader of the Opposition in Parliament, and the supreme leader of his party, Mr Lal Krishna Advani could have ordered his governments in the States to act and stop the violence. He chose to remain a silent spectator for more than 40 days. When he spoke at last to condemn the rape of the Nun in Orissa, he immediately diverted attention from the heinous crime by speaking of `forcible and fraudulent conversions’ during a meeting with some Christian leaders, called at the behest of a Hindu swami from Rishikesh and some BJP Members of Parliament. The dialogue was neither religious, nor political.

There is nothing in these BJP and RSS dialogues that identifies the killers, arsonists and rapists. There is little that puts the onus of the violence where it belongs – on a political leadership which has conspired with the goons and its police which is guilty both of inaction in saving in the victims, and of participating in the violence against the Christians.

We are deeply anguished. We see this and similar attempts at `dialogue’ as an insidious and clever way on the eve of the meeting of the National Integration Council to absolve the BJP of responsibility and to save the goons of its parent organisation, the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh and its militant terrorist organisations, Bajrang dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad who run a parallel government in Orissa and other States. The organisations are now facing the wrath of the entire civil society of India, and of the world.

The All India Christian Council welcomes all dialogue. It is the cornerstone of our everyday life and Christian witness. But a dialogue presupposes free will, a peaceful platform, a structured agenda, a common goal for peace through mutual respect, understanding and acknowledgement of each other as equals.

The BJP-RSS `dialogue’ exercises in some parts of the country exude the stink of coercion and beating a smaller community into submission and a whittling away of Constitutional rights. This also becomes a strategy to divide the community and to isolate and target smaller groups, in this case the Believers Church and the New Life Fellowship, through well placed and motivated media gossip. These churches have pleaded innocence but face a well constructed campaign designed to extinguish them. We condemn this and affirm the unity and solidarity of the Church in its entire rich diversity of denominations and Rites, from the Catholic to the Episcopal, Evangelical and Pentecostal groups. Everybody who believes in Christ is a Christian.

We also denounce forcible and fraudulent conversions. They would by definition be illegal, immoral and against the Faith. Five decades of Church documents testify to this. Conversion is the work of the Holy Spirit. Repeated exercises by the National Minorities Commission and efforts by aggressive governments have failed to provide a single proven case of forcible or fraudulent for forcible conversion. And yet State guarantees on Freedom of Faith, including the propagation of faith, and human rights are smothered in calls for moratoriums and brutalised in police harassment.

There should be more dialogue and an encompassing one on all issues so vital to the unity and integrity of India. Religious leaders should dialogue with other religious leaders in bilateral and multilateral forums. Parliament provides the forum for political dialogue. Civil society is the best platform for a larger peaceful and continuing dialogue and debate. These are forums we trust. And we call upon them, including the National Integration Council, to act soon to save not just the Christian community in Orissa, Karnataka and other States, but to save the very Idea of India in all its glorious diversity, its precious secularism and its civilisation dignity.

Rev Dr. Joseph D Souza is the international president of the Dalit Freedom Network and president of the All India Christian Council.
Dr John Dayal is an activist in India for the human rights of Christians and Dalits – formerly known as “untouchables.”

Karnataka church fire raises fear of fresh attack

14 Oct 2008, 0212 hrs IST,TNN
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BANGALORE: Was it an accident or yet another attack by miscreants? With no answers in sight, the Karnataka police and church authorities are at lo
ggerheads over what sparked the fire which gutted a room and partially damaged the main prayer hall of St Antony’s Church at Yedavanahalli near Attibele in Bangalore Rural district in the wee hours of Monday.

The village is about 34 km from Bangalore. While church authorities claimed miscreants had lit the fire, police maintained it was an accident.

The police’s first theory that a short circuit was the cause was swiftly disproved by Bescom (Bangalore Electricity Supply Company) engineers who visited the spot.

Two constables posted outside the church first noticed the fire around 1am and tried to stamp it out. One of the church doors was kept open so that the constables could take shelter if it rained. When they couldn’t control the flames, they alerted neighbours who tried their best to put out the fire.

Soon, they realized that a fire was still blazing in a locked room, where most of the things were stored. That included the cassocks, about 300 sarees gifted by devotees, CDs and copies of the Bible. The people smashed the window panes and threw water inside. But, the fire raged on and fire tenders were summoned. By 2.15am, they arrived and extinguished the fire.

Fr Santhosh Almeida of the church lodged a complaint with the police and requested the police to investigate the matter. This church is administered by the church at Adigondanahalli, whose priest is Fr C Francis.

“I received a call around 2.30am that there was a fire in our church. Later, the police called me and said they were on the spot. I visited the place this morning,” he said. Fr Francis had doubts about the short circuit theory. He did not rule out the possibility of an attack.

Pregnant women bear the brunt of Orissa violence

13 Oct 2008, 0319 hrs IST, Anand Soondas,TNN
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BHUBANESWAR: The relentless persecution of Christians in Kandhmal, forcing them to remain in relief camps scattered across Orissa, is now presenti
ng a new problem — unsafe deliveries by women. Stranded without access to doctors, hospitals or medical kits, most women are delivering in relief camps with the help of fellow refugees and — if they are fortunate — some anganwadi workers.

But not all have been lucky to be able to give birth. “There have been 10 miscarriages in the past week,” said Jyotirmoy Naik in Cuttack. “Nirmala Digal, Mita Digal, Ranju Naik, Padmini Naik, Mithila Naik — all miscarried because there’s no help for expecting women at the camps.”

Jacob Pradhan, a Christian priest, said: “In the last week, three women in Baliguda delivered babies
, but all away from hospitals. They gave birth in unhygienic conditions and got the help of anganwadi workers. It’s a huge struggle.”

Rev Prakash Naik, who’s active in the Raikia camps, said even if women do manage to give birth, the conditions in the relief shelters are so bad that mortality is a big fear. “Just look around Vijaya school camp and you’ll see what I mean. Survival is a huge factor. Water has gathered in dirty, mosquito-infested puddles and people are defecating in the open.”

Many other miscarriages took place as Christians fled to the jungles and stayed there for days with attacks against them showing no signs of abating.

“Pregnant women suffered as they hid in the forests. While lack of food hindered healthy deliveries for the emaciated, others slipped and fell while running for their lives,” said Krishna Kanta Naik, a social worker in Baliguda.

“Nine women have delivered at the camps in the past week, but the children are very unhealthy.”

Caught in such testing times, the names of the babies, before their formal christening, reflect the travails of the mothers. While one infant is called Danga (riot), another is Sangram (rebellion). “Of course, the formal names will be given after 21 days, as is our ritual, but elders are calling them by these names,” said Nalin Naik.

“Because these are the only words that are there in the minds of people here right now.”

But what is also upsetting many in the camps, apart from risk-laden deliveries, is the inability to observe ‘ekusia’, the 21-day ritual marked by women when someone among them has a baby.

Conversion business

By Kushwant Singh
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RECENT INCIDENTS of violence and vandalism against Christians and their churches deserve to be condemned unreservedly. They have blackened the fair face of Mother India and ruined the reputation of Hindus being the most religiously tolerant people in the world. At the same time, we must take a closer look at people who convert from one faith to another. To start with, let it be understood that these days there are no forced conversions anywhere in the world. India is no exception. Those who assert that the poor, innocent and ignorant of India are being forced to accept Christianity are blatant liars. A few, very few educated and well-to-do men and women convert to another faith when they do not find solace in the faith of their ancestors. Examples are to be found in America and Europe of men and women of substance turning from Judaism and Christianity to Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and Sikhism.
There are also men and women who convert to the faith of those they wish to marry. We have plenty of cases of Hindu, Muslim, Christian and Sikh inter-marriages. However, the largest number of converts come from communities discriminated against. The outstanding example was that of Dalit leader Bhimrao Ambedkar who led his Mahar community to embrace Buddhism because they were discriminated against by upper caste Hindus. This is also true of over 90 per cent of Indian Muslims whose ancestors being lower caste embraced Islam which gave them equal status. That gives lie to the often-repeated slander that Islam made converts by the sword.

An equally large number of people converted out of gratitude. They were neglected, ignorant and poor. When strangers came to look after them, opened schools and hospitals for them, taught them, healed them and helped them to stand on their own feet to hold their heads high, they felt grateful towards their benefactors. Most of them were Christian missionaries who worked in remote villages and brought hope to the lives of people who were deprived of hope.

To this day, Christian missionaries run the best schools, colleges and hospitals in our country. They are inexpensive and free of corruption. They get converts because of the sense of gratitude they generate. Can this be called forcible conversion? Why donʼt the great champions of Hinduism look within their hearts and find out why so many are disenchanted by their pretensions of piety? Let them first set their own houses in order, purge the caste system out of Hindu society and welcome with open arms all those who wish to join them. No one will then convert from Hinduism to another religion.

Khushwant Singh is a prolific writer and journalist in India. A popular Urdu and Punjabi poet and a self proclaimed agnostic. He edited Illustrated Weekly of India and daily Hindustan Times.

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Hindu Threat to Christians: Convert or Flee


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A Christian in her burned home in the Indian state of Orissa. Villagers blamed Hindu militants.
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By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Published: October 12, 2008
BOREPANGA, India — The family of Solomon Digal was summoned by neighbors to what serves as a public square in front of the village tea shop.
They were ordered to get on their knees and bow before the portrait of a Hindu preacher. They were told to turn over their Bibles, hymnals and the two brightly colored calendar images of Christ that hung on their wall. Then, Mr. Digal, 45, a Christian since childhood, was forced to watch his Hindu neighbors set the items on fire.

“ ‘Embrace Hinduism, and your house will not be demolished,’ ” Mr. Digal recalled being told on that Wednesday afternoon in September. “ ‘Otherwise, you will be killed, or you will be thrown out of the village.’ ”

India, the world’s most populous democracy and officially a secular nation, is today haunted by a stark assault on one of its fundamental freedoms. Here in eastern Orissa State, riven by six weeks of religious clashes, Christian families like the Digals say they are being forced to abandon their faith in exchange for their safety.

The forced conversions come amid widening attacks on Christians here and in at least five other states across the country, as India prepares for national elections next spring.

The clash of faiths has cut a wide swath of panic and destruction through these once quiet hamlets fed by paddy fields and jackfruit trees. Here in Kandhamal, the district that has seen the greatest violence, more than 30 people have been killed, 3,000 homes burned and over 130 churches destroyed, including the tin-roofed Baptist prayer hall where the Digals worshiped. Today it is a heap of rubble on an empty field, where cows blithely graze.

Across this ghastly terrain lie the singed remains of mud-and-thatch homes. Christian-owned businesses have been systematically attacked. Orange flags (orange is the sacred color of Hinduism) flutter triumphantly above the rooftops of houses and storefronts.

India is no stranger to religious violence between Christians, who make up about 2 percent of the population, and India’s Hindu-majority of 1.1 billion people. But this most recent spasm is the most intense in years.

It was set off, people here say, by the killing on Aug. 23 of a charismatic Hindu preacher known as Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, who for 40 years had rallied the area’s people to choose Hinduism over Christianity.

The police have blamed Maoist guerrillas for the swami’s killing. But Hindu radicals continue to hold Christians responsible.

In recent weeks, they have plastered these villages with gruesome posters of the swami’s hacked corpse. “Who killed him?” the posters ask. “What is the solution?”

Behind the clashes are long-simmering tensions between equally impoverished groups: the Panas and Kandhas. Both original inhabitants of the land, the two groups for ages worshiped the same gods. Over the past several decades, the Panas for the most part became Christian, as Roman Catholic and Baptist missionaries arrived here more than 60 years ago, followed more recently by Pentecostals, who have proselytized more aggressively.

Meanwhile, the Kandhas, in part through the teachings of Swami Laxmanananda, embraced Hinduism. The men tied the sacred Hindu white thread around their torsos; their wives daubed their foreheads with bright red vermilion. Temples sprouted.

Hate has been fed by economic tensions as well, as the government has categorized each group differently and given them different privileges.

The Kandhas accused the Panas of cheating to obtain coveted quotas for government jobs. The Christian Panas, in turn, say their neighbors have become resentful as they have educated themselves and prospered.

Their grievances have erupted in sporadic clashes over the past 15 years, but they have exploded with a fury since the killing of Swami Laxmanananda.

Two nights after his death, a Hindu mob in the village of Nuagaon dragged a Catholic priest and a nun from their residence, tore off much of their clothing and paraded them through the streets.
The nun told the police that she had been raped by four men, a charge the police say was borne out by a medical examination. Yet no one was arrested in the case until five weeks later, after a storm of media coverage. Today, five men are under arrest in connection with inciting the riots. The police say they are trying to find the nun and bring her back here to identify her attackers.
Given a chance to explain the recent violence, Subash Chauhan, the state’s highest-ranking leader of Bajrang Dal, a Hindu radical group, described much of it as “a spontaneous reaction.”

He said in an interview that the nun had not been raped but had had regular consensual sex.

On Sunday evening, as much of Kandhamal remained under curfew, Mr. Chauhan sat in the hall of a Hindu school in the state capital, Bhubaneshwar, beneath a huge portrait of the swami. A state police officer was assigned to protect him round the clock. He cupped a trilling Blackberry in his hand.

Mr. Chauhan denied that his group was responsible for forced conversions and in turn accused Christian missionaries of luring villagers with incentives of schools and social services.

He was asked repeatedly whether Christians in Orissa should be left free to worship the god of their choice. “Why not?” he finally said, but he warned that it was unrealistic to expect the Kandhas to politely let their Pana enemies live among them as followers of Jesus.

“Who am I to give assurance?” he snapped. “Those who have exploited the Kandhas say they want to live together?”

Besides, he said, “they are Hindus by birth.”

Hindu extremists have held ceremonies in the country’s indigenous belt for the past several years intended to purge tribal communities of Christian influence.

It is impossible to know how many have been reconverted here, in the wake of the latest violence, though a three-day journey through the villages of Kandhamal turned up plenty of anecdotal evidence.

A few steps from where the nun had been attacked in Nuagaon, five men, their heads freshly shorn, emerged from a soggy tent in a relief camp for Christians fleeing their homes.

The men had also been summoned to a village meeting in late August, where hundreds of their neighbors stood with machetes in hand and issued a firm order: Get your heads shaved and bow down before our gods, or leave this place.

Trembling with fear, Daud Nayak, 56, submitted to a shaving, a Hindu sign of sacrifice. He drank, as instructed, a tumbler of diluted cow dung, considered to be purifying.

In the eyes of his neighbors, he reckoned, he became a Hindu.

In his heart, he said, he could not bear it.

All five men said they fled the next day with their families. They refuse to return.

In another village, Birachakka, a man named Balkrishna Digal and his son, Saroj, said they had been summoned to a similar meeting and told by Hindu leaders who came from nearby villages that they, too, would have to convert. In their case, the ceremony was deferred because of rumors of Christian-Hindu clashes nearby.

For the time being, the family had placed an orange flag on their mud home. Their Hindu neighbors promised to protect them.

Here in Borepanga, the family of Solomon Digal was not so lucky. Shortly after they recounted their Sept. 10 Hindu conversion story to a reporter in the dark of night, the Digals were again summoned by their neighbors. They were scolded and fined 501 rupees, or about $12, a pinching sum here.

The next morning, calmly clearing his cauliflower field, Lisura Paricha, one of the Hindu men who had summoned the Digals, confirmed that they had been penalized. Their crime, he said, was to talk to outsiders.

Lies, slander, personal defamation on the net.. Be warned

Who are you to falsely judge another man’s servant now..     (Rev 3:19 KJV)

 

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.   Acts 20:18

 

And when they arrived he said to them: You yourselves are well acquainted with my manner of living among you from the first day that I set foot in [the province of] Asia, and how I continued afterward, Acts 20:19 Serving the Lord with all humility in tears and in the midst of adversity (affliction and trials) which befell me, due to the plots of the Jews [against me]; Acts 20:20

How I did not shrink from telling you anything that was for your benefit and teaching you in public meetings and from house to house, Acts 20:21 But constantly {and} earnestly I bore testimony both to Jews and Greeks, urging them to turn in repentance [that is due] to God and to have faith in our Lord Jesus Christ [that is due Him].    https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/oppressors-or-bullies-are-always-unacceptable/

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Speaking in tongues is both a personal even, praying in tongues but also a public event.. The purpose of tongues with interpretation in public is twofold. One purpose is to provide a sign for unbelievers that they might believe. The other purpose is to edify the church body. Tongues with interpretation declares the mighty works of God, exalts His name, and prompts the believers to worship Him in spirit and in truth. It also explains and calls for commitment to the church’s present mission, and neither of these gifts have even ceased in operation these last days now too..
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Also what is the advantage of “praying in tongues” in one’s private prayer life?
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There are at least four uses or purposes of unknown tongues, according to the New Testament: (1) as the initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4; 10:46; 19:6); (2) as a gift to edify the church when the tongues are interpreted (1 Corinthians 12:10); (3) as a sign for unbelievers that they might believe (1 Corinthians 14:22); and (4) as a God-given provision for effective prayer and praise (1 Corinthians 14:2, 14). In all these cases, tongues is the same in essence, but different in purpose.
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Praying in tongues during private devotions is an additional ministry of the Holy Spirit. Many believers today testify that praying in tongues greatly enriches their spiritual lives. The limitations of intellect are overcome as the Holy Spirit quickens the human spirit in glorious expressions of worship and adoration. The quandary of limited vocabulary and the inability to express feelings and concerns of the soul disappear as a Spirit-imparted language flows out from the heart. It is as if heaven and earth, time and eternity, God and man all compress together in a glorious act of worship.
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Also since the Holy Spirit has authentically inspired next the interpretation of the tongues now , the revelations given will never contradict the teachings of the Bible. If the interpretation is contrary to Scripture, it is out of order and must be ruled so. The Bible is the measure by which all speaking in tongues utterances as well must be judged. While spiritual gifts are divine in their origin, but they are entrusted to people, and they must operate in a way that is consistent with biblical teaching   1 Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order..

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  bad persons, bad , pastors, leaders, elders, Corporations too who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,.

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Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over..,

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I really get a big chuckle in hearing from all those pretend, rather hot air speaking in tongues experts who themselves admit they cannot speak in tongues.

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(Jer 2:19 KJV)  Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

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(Jer 3:22 KJV)  Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God.

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(Jer 5:6 KJV)  Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities: every one that goeth out thence shall be torn in pieces: because their transgressions are many, and their backslidings are increased.

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( Is 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have love, pity, {and} mercy for him, and to our God, for He will multiply to him His abundant pardon. 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

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Is 56:10 watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge; they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, they love to slumber.

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Having clearly not an exaggerated emphasis of your own self importance, being totally in  control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive and generally characterized by perfectionism, extreme tendencies,   and a real cover-up for your fear of having your own sinful flaws exposed. You are exposed now still too..  are grossly in error, in need of professional help, good pastoral counselling.. Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too. If you are a   Control freak, a bully, liar, basher  you are not only still unrealistic, immature, immoral person  but you  have a serious personality disorder. You are a menace, plus a real danger to yourself and to others Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too. Control freaks or Bullies, abusers, wrongfully do cause  others stress so they can maintain a false sense of order. These people themselves firstly are are still riddled mostly with anxiety, fear, insecurity, and anger. They’re very critical of themselves their lover and their friends, but underneath all that still too that supposedly perfect outfit and great body is a mountain of real unhappiness, unresolved guilt, disturbed person.   I have a whole site that deals with true and false Pentecostal bashing .. There was so much emotional rubbish, lies, distortions in  critiquing the Pentecostals  that they were not at all  worth reading, it rather  gives a real bad impression to the readers about the writers, posters firstly. Why are they so filled with demons and hate? The devil is the one sided accuser of the brethren and too many writers there clearly had fell into his hold.  it seems these writers were not real Christians to start of with, they were  clearly ignorant, or ashamed off the Bible, God’s words. For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/

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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the  the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others. “For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by iniquity” (Acts 8:20-23).

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(Acts 20:29 KJV)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

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(Acts 20:30 KJV)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

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(Acts 20:31 KJV)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

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(Acts 20:32 KJV)  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

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(Acts 20:33 KJV)  I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.

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(Acts 20:34 KJV)  Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

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(Acts 20:35 KJV)  I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

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The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing even the Judas Iscariot is noted in history as the one who betrayed Him (Jesus). Yet Judas was first numbered among the Twelve apostles (Luke 6:13, 22:3; Acts 1:16-17 numbered with us), “chosen” by Christ Himself,  so how next did the “Apostle Judas” became also the traitor? What drove him to his immoral acts. The reality is that he had never died to self too.Too many a persons also do falsely deny who they really are, hiding behind prestigious or pretentious facade that they are unknown, cannot be discerned, read, known cause they are too complex.. you can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

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Jesus himself said a person can be known simply by what they do. good people do good things.. and bad people tend to do bad things.

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(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

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(Mat 7:19 KJV)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

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(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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(Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

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(Mat 7:22 KJV)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

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(Mat 7:23 KJV)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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(Mat 7:24 KJV)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

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(Mat 7:25 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

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(Mat 7:26 KJV)  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

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(Mat 7:27 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

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The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior   also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

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From: Franco Barone

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:55 AM

Subject: Re: L’exposition du public et la poursuite des coupables-

Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty  No one during the church age is brought before “the council” for saying “Raca!” (numskull, empty-head, or fool). No one is in danger of judgment simply because he is angry with his brother without cause.

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My reply-   Slandering, lying about, calling a specific person false names, personal attacks,  even on any public forum is still unacceptable now even if you are a Christian, a Plymouth Brethren one now too.

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Franco you have  your false personal misinterpretations of the Bible as a false cover-up for your immoral acts on the net .. but Bullying and calling a person names such as a fool, crazy, or what ever is still an unacceptable immoral act according both to Canada’s courts and the Human Rights commissions now as well and is rightfully fully prosecutable as you can see in the references detailed. If you are still unable to properly read the Bible, do talk to a good lawyer and he will tell you the same thing      All Comments containing inflammatory material, lies, slanders, offensive language, personal attacks are not permitted and will be deleted…. Despite our best hints some persons do too often turn from the Christian ideal and cheapen the quality of discourse even for everyone else. Unfortunately, it is simply impossible to write a comprehensive set of rules forbidding every type of UnChristian behavior. No love so don’t write it.. The fact that this rule may not still forbid a certain type of post does not automatically make an uncivil post appropriate, nor does it imply that the administrators will next still approve of disrespectful behavior. Every persons has a responsibility to participate in a respectful manner, and to help foster an atmosphere of thoughtful discussion. In this regard, we strongly advise all persons to  have a little common decency. Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual on this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden. Will be deleted

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And some of the unacceptable responding bullies, bashers who try their false personal attacks on me now cause I had stepped on their toes, firstly they do not even know me well enough to make any kind of personal judgmental bashings  upon me never mind doing it now even in public too, and slander is what it is.. . Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on various sites I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,  but clearly the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.  

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Some Brethren persons  who write to me clearly have often said to me that they do not like the replies I post back on the net. I do not spam, I firstly write an email to no one unless they had written to me or have requested me to write to them. But I am free to write, in decency now too,  on whatever I want on the net  even about the unacceptable brethren abuses, Pentecostal bashers, haters.. like it or not. Life is not one sided where the crooks, perverts have the sole rights and no one else.

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“”From: franco barone  Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:26 PM   Subject: Re: Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest Your a child and have yet to put away your childish things.  You need to read your own words of who is accusing whom, on the internet.  Be assured he who thinks he standeth will surely fall, and how great is that fall.” .  So go ahead and prosecute you fool! What are you waiting for? ”

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My rightful reply Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:41 PM  Subject:

Re: L’exposition du public et la poursuite des coupables- Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty

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(Mat 5:22 KJV)  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.  . Now you are adding to your continual  unacceptable slander of me by calling me a fool.. slandering me again.. contrary to the laws of Canada, the Charter rights, and what you do not honour now the laws of the country too, never mind God’s laws clearly as well.. And you say you want to me to go ahead and prove to the world that I have asked your RIGHTFULLY to repent, stop your  immoral acts. .. Well  I have already done that ..( I have also deleted your bad posts, slanders too)  but look again and do see the people I wrote too worldwide, Canada wide, Ontario, including Quebec, Canada .. Do see my posts posts about you on the net too..  .  as a Canadian I have legal, human rights, ask any lawyer now, cause you need one .. your OWN DISTORTED  interpretation of the Bible does not count for me, when clearly you falsely as we all can see FIRSTLY EVEN THAT  now do not practice it even.  Preach first to yourself FOR I would rather see you live it firstly and so would the rest of us. Do note I PERSONALLY   do not HAVE TO resort  to calling you  UNACCEPTABLE  NAMES to these discuss issues… YET YOU SIMPLY unacceptably now DO HAVE TO DO THAT. Is that an other  example of a CLEARLY bad  Brethren, dispensational Christian NOW?       . Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest..  I also rightfully do not accept any personal lies, slanders, abuses, personal attacks, defamation  quietly.

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Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfully cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back..   . Be warned.  No I do not accept personal insults lies, abuse, slander of me from even so called Christian Brethren for It is a  prosecutable human rights courts offence in Canada even if it is done on the internet. Be warned now.. (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. .  As even posted on the net now, on my many sites too,  I have already contacted 500 elected officials in Canada, all the major news editors and have lodged formal complaints now about the much too many lying, abusive brethren, and I have gotten response from 2 provinces, related  minister already and they are working on the matter  . ” You are a heretic, and you call yourself a Christian. .. You are a braggart and a bully. A false accuser of all true born-again believing Christians…  You are indeed a hypocrite. 50 years? You have learned nothing. …    You error in not knowing what you speak of, and it is to your shame for you do the LORD Christ Jesus an injustice.  Surely the dog has turned to his vomit. Diotrophes.”  

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Lies, libels, personal slanders, character assignations even from any  professing Christian persons now  are still unacceptable and full prosecutable

 

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Brethren sins shouted from the house tops and they do not like it. .  (Heb 10:24 KJV)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:  . BUT INSTEAD NAME CALLINGS. BASHING, is what they mainly do.. and are known for as well.  . I SHOULD RIGHTFULLY NOW MAKE A COLLECTION OF ALL THE LIES, DIRTY NAMES, SLANDERS, PLYMOUTH BRETHREN RESPOND WITH..GOD HIMSELF DOES NOT ACCEPT VERBAL, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, NEITHER DO I. THEY FIRSTLY SHOULD TAKE THE BEAMS OUT OF THEIR  OWN EYE FIRST.   https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/   http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/ .  Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest

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“Perhaps one of the greatest heresies of our day arises from a theological ignorance with respect to the Bible’s teaching on sanctification. While .. Many (Falsely) simply operate under the assumption that obedience, repentance, love for God’s law, and mortification of sin are unnecessary addendums to true faith,  reserved for a special class of “spiritual Christians”, yet still optional for those “carnal Christians” who embrace Christ as Savior but refuse Him as Lord.   How does (anyone,) Ryrie respond to the New Testament texts, especially in the gospels, which so obviously teach that both a change of mind and heart are necessary consequences of justifying faith? … While inconsistent dispensationalists can and do believe in the necessity of repentance, the logical conclusions of classic dispensationalism yield the kind of devastating errors which sees faith as nothing more than a change of mind with regards to the facts of the gospel.  ”  http://covenantgrace.blogspot.com/2008/02/some-of-puritans-believed-that.html

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Lip service Christianity is still not acceptable. Ongoing continual personal repentance  for sins  is also not optional.. but a necessary subjection even for http://startnow72.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/benny-hinn-makes-todd-bentley-looked-like-an-amatuer/#comment-999

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>>Grace said, on August 11th, 2008 at 11:33 pm   “the nonconformist” ..  he is very violent and abusive!

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(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.  (Heb 12:9 KJV)  Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?  . The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.

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The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions Christianity – Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters .   You can bully me, bash me, play on words too, even call me a liar, but that will not deny the truth of what I have experienced  the last 3 decades on the net and in many in churches now as well.. the truth that any  bad Conservative is not any better than a bad Liberal.. and professing Conservatives, professing Christians,  evangelical pastors included  who  themselves now wrongfully are too often now just as ungodly human right violators as any of the ungodly, secular  persons too. They also should first Judge themselves before they judge the others, Christians too like to judge others but not themselves. . Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too.

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I always find it very interesting how so many people, professing Christians even  like to talk about themselves and others, to post ON THE NET the supposed sins of others, but not their own sins..  REALLY HYPOCRITICAL STILL TOO. (Mat 3:8 KJV)  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:  9   And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10    And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5   Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.  . (Mat 7:14 KJV)  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

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Isn’t nice that according to the Canadian Charter of rights I too now can write to absolutely now any one I want to  still, all news editors, all politicians too,  and that if they  do not want to read my emails they  can just delete them too.. or they  can first take their  email of the net and stop requesting people to write to them. I would have thought that they too  knew that by now too.. funny.. What do any of them still think they or you are the only one who can tell, write and post the truths even on the net still? and the rest of us cannot?  . It seems you cannot trust the federal or the provincial, municipal  governments in Canada still..  do  we all do these days too do keep on getting media revelations of abuses, corruptions, lies etc.

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/toronto-councillor-adam-giambrone-lies/

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I do also  have to say I was amazed so readily myself. How in my last few decades of Canadian experiences how quickly the too apparent crooks it seems are the first ones who threaten to or do  sue, even how they do try to shut up the truth from the public exposure, a subject that I  have often written about..   . Our governments and the courts clearly are firstly very slow to enforce prosecutions of the really clearly bad persons such as the bad cops, bad civil and public servants, too many tax evaders, thieves, tax payer’s money abusers    and undeniably as well but what the very apparent crooks can too readily sue the others.. ..  falsely can attempt to suppress, obstruct  justice from being carried out?  . And there are  still too many for my liking in Canada  crooked professionals such as even crooked realtors, bad Real estate firms, bad Accountants, bad lawyers, bad Pastors and priests now too, bad cops, bad medical workers, bad civil and public servants, too many tax evaders, even too many  bad telecommunication, internet firms guilty of false, misleading advertising and customer abuses too such as Bell..

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/the-way-normal-business-is-supposedly-being-carried-in-canada/

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From: Bentley_Chris-MPP-CO

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:01 AM

Cc: attorneygeneral@ontario.ca

Subject: RE: about the Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently..

Good morning: Thank you for taking the time to contact Chris Bentley’s Constituency Office.  I will bring your email to Mr. Bentley’s attention. Since your concerns are a matter for the Attorney General.  I have taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the Ministry of the Attorney General to be responded to.  If you would like to follow up with Mr. Bentley’s Toronto office directly please do not hesitate to contact (416) 326-2220 or 1-800-518-7901 attorneygeneral@ontario.ca.

Thank you again,

Ashley Conyngham Constituency Assistant Chris Bentley, MPP London West 8-11 Base Line Road East London, Ontario N6C 5Z8 Tel: (519) 657-3120 Fax: (519) 657-0368 Mobile: (519) 281-2153

 

do see also

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/thedeezone-175228/

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Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West

Almost 70 years ago, Europe found itself at war with one of the most sinister figures in modern history: Adolf Hitler. When the last bullet of World War II was fired, over 50 million people were dead, and countless countries were both physically and economically devastated. Hitler?s bloody struggle sought to forge the world anew, in the crucible of Nazi values. How could such a disaster occur? How could the West have overlooked the evil staring it in the face, for so long, before standing forcefully against it?

Today, we find ourselves confronted by a new enemy, also engaged in a violent struggle to transform our world. As we sleep in the comfort of our homes, a new evil rises against us. A new menace is threatening, with all the means at its disposal, to bow Western Civilization under the yoke of its values. That enemy is Radical Islam.

Using images from Arab TV, rarely seen in the West, Obsession reveals an ?insider’s view’ of the hatred the Radicals are teaching, their incitement of global jihad, and their goal of world domination. With the help of experts, including first-hand accounts from a former PLO terrorist, a Nazi youth commander, and the daughter of a martyred guerilla leader, the film shows, clearly, that the threat is real.

A peaceful religion is being hijacked by a dangerous foe, who seeks to destroy the shared values we stand for. The world should be very concerned.

Home page: http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

“Twenty years ago, while at an International Association of Fire Chief Conference, I had an opportunity to talk with fire officers from Israel. During our conversation, they told me if I would like to see what America would deal with in years to come, watch what happens in Israel and the Middle East. They will bring it to our shores.

In a Washington Times article by Sara Carter, August 8, 2007 she wrote, “approximately 20 Arab persons a week utilizing the Travis County Court in Austin to change their names and driver’s licenses from Arabic to Hispanic surnames.” Why would they be doing this I wonder? There are an estimated 5,000 trained terrorists already in the United States. What is our government doing about it?

This is from investigative journalist Paul Sperry’s book, Infiltration, page xv. ”Perhaps the most shocking news of all, the main FBI translator program, based in the Washington field office, is a den of deceit and dual loyalties, a place where mistranslations of al-Qaida intercepts by Muslim and Arab linguists is commonplace, say agents and translators who have worked there.

Take former FBI linguist Sibel Dinez Edmonds. When she showed up for her first day of work at the field office, a week after the 9/11 attacks, she expected to find a somber atmosphere. Instead, she was offered cookies filled with dates from party bowls set out in the room where other Middle Eastern linguists with top-secret security clearance translate terror-related communications. The cause for the celebration? The 9/11 attacks. Some of her colleagues openly and loudly derided the country they are paid to protect. With her Arab supervisor looking on, another Arab translator sneered: “It’s about time they got a taste of what they’ve been giving the Middle East.” (Letter by Sible D. Edmonds to Senate Judiciary Committee and the 9/11 Commission, 6 January 2004, 5.) It gets worse. The language services squad is the frontline in the FBI’s war on terrorism, collecting all foreign language tips, information, and terrorist threats to homeland security. Agents act on what the squad translates and reports back to them. The sooner agents get the information, the sooner they can thwart terrorist attacks. Investors have missed clues to both the 1993 and 2001 World Trade Center attacks because they were buried in a backlog of untransulated wiretaps and documents in Arabic, a backlog that is growing. Despite the mountain of untransulated material, which could hold clues to the next al-Qaida attack, Edmonds says her supervisor ordered her and other translators to just let the work pile higher. Why? To compel Congress to boost their department budget. The supervisor was promoted to running the Arabic desk, the key to intercepting the al-Qaida plots, after he threatened to sue the FBI for racial discrimination.”Now this is bad, really bad, but it does not end there. In the February 2008, The Limbaugh Letter, there is an interview with Kenneth Timmerman, author of Shadow Warriors: The Untold Story of Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender.

In his book, Timmerman states as we were going into Iraq, in March and April of 2003, there were CIA teams on the ground that were dead set against the Administration’s plan, which was to empower the Iraqi National Congress—-which was a coalition of groups, including Kurds, Shies, Sunnis—- that was lead by Ahmed Chalabi, who the CIA absolutely hated. CIA agents were going into Anbar Providence and other places saying, “How can we help you create some kind of alternative. We do not want to have Chalabi in office, either. They were giving money to these Sunni sheiks in Unbar Province, and they were the ones, who in fact, within weeks turned millions of dollars over to the former Baathists and to al Qaeda people and launched the insurgency.” This funded the beginning of the insurgency. It makes no difference if you are for or against the Iraq war; it makes a difference when American’s decide to use our tax dollars to fund those insurgents who are killing against troops. Why are we being lied to by our elected and appointed officials? In Timmerman’s book, page xxi he states,After the 9/11 attacks, FBI Director Mueller assured Americans that the nineteen al-Qaida hijackers operated alone when they lived here, that they were relatively isolated and got no help or support from the Muslim community. According to him, 9/11 was just the result of a few bad apples.

Only, he was not leveling with the American people.

In fact, the Joint Inquiry into 9/11 by Congress found that a number of Muslims provided the hijackers with “substantial” assistance, including finding housing, opening bank accounts, obtaining driver’s licenses, locating flight schools, and facilitating other transactions. What’s more, some of the hijackers were in various degrees of contact with more than a dozen American Muslims who at some point had come under FBI investigation for terrorism activities. And some of the mosques the hijackers attended in California, Florida, Virginia, Arizona, and Maryland were also attended by persons of interest to the FBI. Even before al-Qaida attacked, the bureau was conducting full-field investigations of fifty-seven individuals connected to al-Qaida. (The 9/11 Commission Report) and they are just the time pf the iceberg.”

Here is what the 9/11 Commission called the “radical Islam.” It is just Islam in practice.I call it the body bombs in Wal-Mart attacks.

The latest from our government.
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DHS Warns Of Pregnant Prosthetic Belly Bombings

“New Wave Of Terrorism Carried Out By Women Wearing Loaded Pregnant Suits

Reporting Sean Hennessey WASHINGTON (CBS) ― The FBI and Department of Homeland Security are warning against a new type of terrorism carried out by women who appear to be pregnant.

It may be the newest wave in suicide attacks: a prosthetic pregnant belly serving as a compartment for explosives. The belly opens up from the front and the explosives are placed inside.

“It’s not the first time we’ve had women involved before in one way or another,” says security expert Robert Strang.

Strang tells CBS 2 he isn’t surprised at the new lows terrorists will stoop to—lows that include those with Down syndrome even carrying out suicide attacks in Baghdad.

“They’re recruiting anybody they can get to do those things that’s not going to inform law enforcement, that’s not going to be a threat to these organizations that can get the job done,” says Strang.

With terrorist training camps up and running in Pakistan, there are now fears Americans might one day be involved. Authorities are increasingly worried that Al Qaeda is actively recruiting people who look like Americans and sound like Americans to carry out the next attack on America.

“Whether it’s Americans or whether it’s people who can launch from Europe, because they have visas or passports that allow them to travel to the United States, they are looking at people who can operate in the west,” says Philip Mudd of the FBI.

Authorities say there is “no specific, credible intelligence” that says terrorists are planning to use women and suicide bombers to attack, but the warning was sent to agencies across the country in the wake of recent attacks overseas.

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DHS Warns Of Pregnant Prosthetic Belly Bombings

 

 

 

 

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