Albertan Hate Crimes Awareness Day

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Albertan solicitor general attempts to quash the citizens democratic rights to complain.

.. It’s a sobering report into how hate crimes are reported and investigated in Alberta. 2008 statistics released by the Alberta Hate Crimes Committee shows there were 68 hate crimes identified by Calgary police last year, compared to 155 by police in Edmonton. The difference is that the cops themselves are more guilty of hate crimes in Calgary very likely for a start and so they do not prosecute the others who do the same thing. On top of that there is a significant cultural , social makeup between the mostly while collared town of Calgary, and the blue collared town of Edmonton. Calgary definitely has the larger Jews group too while Edmonton has a larger Muslim group. The committee believes the differences are in large part because of different definitions of what constitutes a hate crime. In Alberta falsely slandering, bashing the poor people, drunks , social welfare recipients, natives, immigrants, Asians, and all easterners from Canada now often, on the net as well is not considered a hate crime but it all should be. I personally have witnessed and complained about the racist behavior of the bad cops too in Calgary,Alberta which also now has more significant racial discrimination over Quebec in my own real experiences now too. Quebec is a heaven, kind and gentle compared to Alberta for sure. I personally in front of a large audience, with the news media present now too, had told openly a past Multicultural Minister of Alberta that 70 percent of Alberta were racists and I got a standing applause. The report also showed there have only been two successful prosecutions of hate crimes in Alberta over the last two years. You can start rightfully by prosecuting racist PC ministers and many Albertan evangelicals, Mormons now too.. The group believes Crown prosecutors in this province don’t have the resources to deal with these kinds of complex cases that are often very difficult to win. The Alberta Hate Crimes Committee goes onto suggest there be a specific hate crimes section put into the Criminal Code and a Hate Crimes Awareness Day established in Spring 2010. And more useless unenforced laws, unfinanced as well only makes the hypocritical politicians look good, but in fact does not help much. Better and cheaper too if the Albertan politicians, leaders lead by a real example firstly… yes starting with Prime Minister Stephen Harper too.

 I am often rightfuly upset by all those cry babies in Albeerta who complain about the other people’s dirty yards  in other provinces but they now  can’t seem to clean their own  yet and firstly too. Hypocrites..

 GOOD BUY

see also http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/alberta/

No one is above the law

 No one is above the law, No one. Human rights abuse, Citizen abuse, substance abuse, tax payer’s money abuses, tax evasion. abuse of the laws even by the police, civil and public servants, pastors, professionals, accountants, lawyers, politicians, contractors, business persons, school teachers,  all  needs to be fully exposed and prosecuted under the law too.  

Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical abuses now too.. ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them has been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ? One of the thing that has caught me by surprised were the proposed solutions for the abuse.. some were really unacceptable, such as accepting the abusers and merely forgiving them when God himself does not.. anyone doubt this, look at God’s Punishment of the Apostle Paul specially for his past abuse of the Christians now too. I know from observing others that one’s abusing a Christian can lead to one’s early death. I have found the best way not to get abused anymore is to rightfully not to associate with the abuser anymore, after exposing their abuse to them and others, till they really do repent of it, and a clearly Biblical approach according to the Bible  Book of Corinthians now too. They cannot hit you, abuse you if you are not there. As simple as that http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/not-again-at-it-again/ 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/pretentious-incompetent-in-real-life/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/the-unfortunate-facts-of-life/

 

Every time you do openly speak or write a great truth, a valid complaint now too,  the devil next will try to use someone to try to discredit it and you and I do not have to accept it too. Verbal, emotional, physical, legal, Human rights  abuses are unacceptable for all.. Ironically some  of the biggest bullies I have encountered in Canada themselves had claimed to be good persons and that they themselves supposedly  were being bullied, abused by others .The issue of dealing effectively with the too many  false bullies on the web also now needs to be addressed..  I too do believe that we all have the right , in turns, to speak , to be heard as well, still when I see any person next resorting to merely personal attacks, name calling of others, such as  calling them ” Vile, Low Life, Criminal, Hoodlum,  Scum Bag , Crass Miscreant, Serial Online criminal, and disgusting Sociopath  ”  they should note that firstly themselves have lost it all already.. have lost both support and credibility now as well, for in fact they now are no better than the person they are supposedly complaining about. Even if they call themselves now professing Christians for Satan and his fallen angels also like to masquerade themselves as Angels of light. Messengers of the truth.. for  I also rightfully  hesitate to expose now rightfully such person myself  as to  what they are like, really bad persons, even to all..  even if they were relatives of mine.. or fellow citizens.   By their own doings, fruit you still tell what a person now is like.. (Mat 7:2 KJV)  For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

       
A good friend of mine started specially a home church , that met weekly for about 30 immigrants, and poor people who were despised in the local church and were ostracized.. but shortly  he next suddenly moved to England and I was left with the church. We met together for years, I pastored the church, prayed with them, gave the sermons, did home and hospital visits, and in all the years I did that I never once took an offering, I did not take took even one cent from any of the congregation.. nor did I ever ask one person for any money as well..  in fact on top of all that I had a fully unlimited  lavished meal every Saturday night for all the adherents too.. and it was all free. God  now also had miracoulsy supplied all the money by the people of his choice now too that I had needed for it all too.. so when I see most evangelical pastors now today begging for money, refusing to help feed the poor, do not do home visitation it certainly disgust me rightfully too for these hirelings are stealing the money and not living by faith in God… and they call themselves Christians? they are merely pretenders, imposters still.
 
(Mat 21:13 KJV)  And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. 
(Mat 21:21 KJV)  Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.  22    And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
 
(Mat 21:28 KJV)  But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29  He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30  And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31  Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32  For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
33  Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34  And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35  And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36  Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
 
 I must say that I really also do still have a problem with any  pastors  prosecuting poor persons for supposedly stealing food in their church.. especially when I have often witnessed evangelical pastors themselves in Canada stealing money, even houses now too..
 
 (John 21:15 KJV)  So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
 
(John 21:16 KJV)  He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
 
(John 21:17 KJV)  He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
 
(Acts 20:28 KJV)  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
 
(Rom 12:20 KJV)  Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
 
(1 Cor 13:3 KJV)  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
 
(1 Pet 5:2 KJV)  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
 
(Rev 7:17 KJV)  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
 
(Mark 6:37 KJV)  He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat.
 
(James 2:16 KJV)  And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
 
My understanding of the New testament and the old testament was that 1/7 of the tithe received by pastors was to be given to the local poor people .. on top of that every 3rd year the tithe was to be sued as a food feast to feed the donor, priests, and also the poor people..
 
since clearly the pastors are breaking these laws how can they even think of persecuting poor people for stealing any food now too.
 
On top of that in the New Testament Jesus himself told his disciples to feed them, told Peter to feed his sheep as well, and the weekly offering collected by the church was not solely for the support of the ministry, workers, empires but to help the poor and needy persons undeniably as well..
 
Now on top of all that all good brethren should know that Rev George Mueller lived by faith in God to supply the needs and he fed the poor people and never once asked for donation now as well.
 
Incidentally very specially the book of Malachi that is so often misquoted for giving the tithe the book of Malachi was in fact a rebuke to the priest themselves now firstly for stealing the tithe.. and the need of their returning the stolen tithe to God.. is still very applicable today as well. 
 
I am always amazed how I tend to be the very same person no matter where I go in Canada, in whatever city, church now too and yet I next often tend to be treated very differently in different places, and this is more reflective of now not of who I am but of the character of the persons I am now facing, dealing with. In one place I tend to be accepted, received courtesy and in other place I am made to feel unwanted , despised.. Mind you Jesus himself and all the apostles received various treatments now as well from different cities, different people as well.
      
 (Mat 10:14 KJV)  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15  Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16  Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18  And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19  But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20  For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 21  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 23  But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. 24  The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25  It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 26  Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27  What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29  Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30  But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31  Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
 
I AM ALSO RIGHTFULLY FULLY CONVINCED THAT IF JESUS HIMSELF WAS TO COME TO SOME OF THESE SO CALLED OR PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CHURCHES, EVEN BRETHREN, BAPTIST, ANGLICAN, PENTECOSTAL, CATHOLIC , LIBERAL ONES HE ALSO STILL  WOULD ALSO BE REJECTED, CAST OUT, ABUSED.
 
(Mat 10:33 KJV)  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39  He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
40  He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
41  He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.
42  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
 
I AM ALSO RIGHTFULLY FULLY CONVINCED THAT IF JESUS HIMSELF TODAY  WAS TO COME TO SOME OF THESE SAME PLACES THAT I GO TO HE WOULD COME WITH A WHIP AND NEXT BEAT THEM.
   
 So these crooks, perverts,  abusers,  crooks expect you to abide by the law, rules, meaning their rules that change often, but they themselves wrongfully do not observe, keep the laws of decency.. what planet really are they from? Everyone has to follow the same laws of decency, normality, morality as well in reality.
  
(Mat 11:16 KJV)  But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows. 17   And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
   
My next door neighbor, is personally very threatened by my access to the internet, and my net posts and and I really do not know why?  What has he got to hide or is hiding now? He is a landscape contractor, rather to me merely a basic foreman, who does snow removal and grass cutting as well even  year around for many  folks. He seems to have a handful of employees working for him as well, and in over a decade he will not let me even to get to know him better. I talked to some of the other neighbors about him and many of them had said to me that he was a self conceited bully with a big ego problem. He was and is used to giving orders to his workers, family, but when it comes to me I do rightfully now draw the line for  I see him as a small time hood, and  I do not have to take any advice, orders from him no matter who he thinks now he is. I do not work for him  and he is not a member of my family.  The really sad thing is that are a few other people like him in real life, the masters of households who falsely try to expand their false bulling authority now on others. I too have often personal now met even crooked evangelical pastor now like this as well who while they tried to rule over others were stealing from others, even committing tax evasions as I had witnessed. Kind of hard to understand why these self proclaimed leaders would now also behave negatively  like this.. they all do still need to face reality that I rightfully do not hesitate to call the police against any of their verbal, physical, human rights abuses or the tax departments now as well. No I rightly still do accept bullied or being abused by them. Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant  guilty persons serves every one’s best interest. Even you are reading about it.. and think how many others will read it next world wide too. Public exposure is effective with these kind of bullies.. They need to wake up to reality.. that will get worse and not better for any of them next really too. What an unwise move for him to start this war with me.
 
The need to control is almost always fueled by anxiety – though control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with. 
 
If you are a   Control freak you are not only still unrealistic, immature, immoral person  but you  may have a serious personality disorder.  Even if you are employed or self employed now too. You are a menace, plus a real danger to yourself and to others, for you are an abuser, a human rights violator too. Having clearly now an exaggerated emphasis of your own self importance, being totally in  control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive and generally characterized by perfectionism, orderliness, workaholic tendencies, an inability to make commitments or to trust others and a real cover-up for your fear of having your own flaws exposed. You are exposed now still too..  All  these type of Persons who  believe they can protect themselves by staying in control of every aspect of their lives, or of others, including their relationships are idiots, fools, grossly in error, in need of professional help, good pastoral counseling.
 
I rightfully  believe in the right of free speech, mine, yours, everyone else’s and not solely yours. Most all of you have had to contend with control freaks and they are found everywhere, in Corporations, at  home, in churches too.. These are those people who insist on having their way in all interactions with you. They wish to set the agenda and decide what it is you will do and when you will do it. You know who they are – they have a driving need to run the show and call the shots. Lurking within the fabric of the conversation is the clear threat that if you do not accede to their needs and demands, they will be unhappy.. and they will delete your post…
 
Is 57:4 Against whom do you make sport {and} take your delight? Against whom do you open wide your mouth and put out your tongue? Are you not yourselves the children of transgression, the offspring of deceit–
 
 Being a Control freak is often  merely a false power struggle but a control freak is still a  very insecure and very troubled person who likely has  real personal problems that need to be dealt  with by the professionals.   Or he may sound  now like a person I  know who  was hiding from others, from public exposures,  because he was committing  tax evasion often as well, he used his company’s labor material to upgrade his personal duplex, home, cottage too, walkway and yard and  next falsely charged  it to the business.
 
The person had also lied to me and falsely took credit for his yard landscaping but I next found out his wife did it all. No such thing as a little bit dishonest or a little bit pregant here too..
  
   “Those who demand the most often give the least.”  Ask them to send you something or do something for you. By asking something of them, you will be indicating that you are not intimidated or diminished by their behavior patterns. In order to not feel degraded, humiliated and have your sense of self and self worth assaulted, you need to avoid being bulldozed by a controlling lover, boss or friend. When you are caught up in a truly destructive/controlling attachment, the best response may still also still be to expose them.  Merely simply call the police and walk out.
 
My personal experience in dealing with specific vicious internet bullies, local human rights abusers, the really really bad abusers, including  any really bad news reporters, bad ministers of the government , bad RCMP, bad pastors, these same bad persons who basically falsely want to suppress my right of free speech, telling the truth too, even  now about 6 times a year.. was, besides posting it on the net, to also  reputedly address my complaint in full to all the major news editors, and to about 50 key effective politicians until  it stopped and it always tend next to stop. I too rightfully do not accept any abuse of me or anyone I wittness being abused quietly.
 
Every time you write a great truth the devil next will for sure try to use someone to try to discredit it and I do not accept it too.. I next also do also expose to all what they are like, really bad persons..
 
This issue of dealing effectively with the too many  false bullies on the web needs to be addressed.. ironically some  of the biggest bullies I have encountered in Canada claimed to be good persons and that they themselves  was being bullied, abused.. for the lying serpent devil often hides as an angel of light.. I did not hesitate to expose now rightfully such person myself.. even if they were relatives of mine.. or fellow citizens. God himself opposes all abuses and deals with it negatively too..
 
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/reality-a-lesson-for-all-of-the-rcmp/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
http://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/dealing-effectively/
 
Hate and Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse. Hate, Verbal or physical  abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too … I have learned a long time ago that public exposure and prosecution of the abusers serves everyone’s best interests, http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/

Reality- A lesson for all of the RCMP

 Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest, the bad, perverse RCMP now included. 

 

Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/no-confidence/

 
(1 Tim 1:8 KJV)  But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
 
(Eccl 8:11 KJV)  Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
 
When I was young I used to naively believe that public exposure of the truth would bring forth justice, until I admitted the truth also  that there would be many persons, perverts still who would refuse to admit their sins, refuse to repent, as well as those other lying persons,  perverts who would falsely also now work to subvert justice from being  carried out because they were likely also equally guilty of doing the same bad acts, lying too, and thus they too now falsely work  to obstruct justice from being carried out on anyone..
 
Proverbs 11:21 Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.
 
Exodus 23:2  Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:
 
The Bible also now is very clear that if the unrepentant evil persons are not punished they will next not   learn to do good..

Psalms 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Zephaniah 1:9 In the same day also will I punish all those that leap on the threshold, which fill their masters’ houses with violence and deceit.

Psalms 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.

Mat. 18:15-17 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.(Psa 101:4 KJV)  A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

 

Anyway all final justice will be carried out by God himself now in all matters too.
 
(Isa 63:4 KJV)  For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
 
(Rom 12:19 KJV)  Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 
(Ezek 21:3 KJV)  And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
 
(Psa 37:29 KJV)  The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
 
(Isa 60:21 KJV)  Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.
 
(Deu 7:15 KJV)  And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee.
 
(Est 8:6 KJV)  For how can I endure to see the evil that shall come unto my people? or how can I endure to see the destruction of my kindred?
 
(Job 8:20 KJV)  Behold, God will not cast away a perfect man, neither will he help the evil doers:
 
(Psa 10:15 KJV)  Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.
 
(Psa 140:1 KJV)  Deliver me, O LORD, from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man;
 
(Prov 2:12 KJV)  To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
 
(Prov 8:13 KJV)  The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
 
(Prov 14:19 KJV)  The evil bow before the good; and the wicked at the gates of the righteous.
 
(Prov 15:3 KJV)  The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
 
(Prov 24:20 KJV)  For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.
 
(Jer 21:12 KJV)  Execute judgment in the morning, and deliver him that is spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor, lest my fury go out like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
 
(Jer 23:22 KJV)  But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
 
(Jer 26:3 KJV)  If so be they will hearken, and turn every man from his evil way, that I may repent me of the evil, which I purpose to do unto them because of the evil of their doings.
 
(Jer 26:13 KJV)  Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.
 
(Jer 36:31 KJV)  And I will punish him and his seed and his servants for their iniquity;
 
(Amos 9:10 KJV)  All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.
 
(Jonah 3:10 KJV)  And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
 
(Isa 1:17 KJV)  Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
 
(2 Pet 2:9 KJV)  The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
 
(Jer 18:10 KJV)  If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
 
(1 Pet 3:11 KJV)  Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
 
(1 Pet 3:12 KJV)  For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
 
(1 Pet 3:13 KJV)  And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
 
(Prov 28:5 KJV)  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.
   

Bad Calgary Cops

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Calgary Police supposedly persecute the Chrtistians and why?
 
YouTube – Pastor Arrested for Preaching the Gospel to the Poor
 
My own personal direct experience was a shock to realize how much the Calgary cops do hate anyone mentioning Jesus Christ.
 
Many of them go after work to the police tavern across the street from the main Calgary police station and drive drunk home from there next too.. this too needs to be exposed..
 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K3kdgGG9co

“On Saturday, Concerned Christians Canada reported that “members of the Street Church ministry were forcefully removed from their preaching platform by a mob of police officers.” http://noapologies.ca/?p=1263

CCC continued: “For years the City has been waging a battle against the ministry, getting more and more aggressive with members being manhandled, Christian materials confiscated, and volunteers wounded from rough treatment.  Street Church ministries has made several attempts to have their Charter rights restored and have made several pleas for justice and mercy which have, to this date, fallen on deaf ears.”

CCC is “is launching an awareness campaign and will be contacting thousands of their supporters across the country to notify them of what injustices are going on in the City of Calgary.”

Jim Blake, National Chairman, Concerned Christians Canada, said “During this altercation three volunteers were arrested, one of which for recording the behaviour of the police from a nearby sidewalk, and still other ministry members were intimidated by being surrounded by squad cars, paddy wagons and police officers. Ironically drug dealers and drug users were conducting their business right in front of the officers and they did nothing to stop them. It’s just so hypocritical. It’s high time that City council step up to the plate. They need to lay down their battle gear and allow Street Church to care for the less fortunate in peace. The very things that City officials harass Street Church about they allow others to do regularly without attacking them. This is a precisely targeted campaign against a ministry that preaches the gospel. It is bigotry and it must stop.”

People who want more information about this case can reach Jim Blake at 403-690-4636 or at nationalchairman@concernedchristians.ca .

 CALGARY – The City of Calgary is appealing a court decision that acquitted a street preacher of five bylaw charges and called two civic bylaws overly broad. City solicitor Paul Tolley said the city believes the 91-page provincial court judgment, released earlier this month, has “both errors in fact and errors in law.” An appeal to the Court of Queen’s Bench will be filed by the Jan. 6 deadline, he said. Art Pawlowski, who preaches in public while feeding the homeless, has been in a battle with the city over the use of a loudspeaker to spread his message and for placing material on streets, including boxes of food, a large wooden cross and speakers. On Monday, he called the city’s decision “very unfortunate. “The city, instead of focusing (on helping the homeless) are wasting taxpayer money,” Pawlowski said. “We are not the city’s enemies. The city continues to fight us.” In a Dec. 7 written decision, provincial court Judge Allan Fradsham said while there is “little dispute that the accused engaged in most of the impugned behaviours,” he also heard arguments for Pawlowski made under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Tolley said the city believes “the charter principles have not been factually applied and extend too far.”  There is also concern, he added, that the streets bylaw and the parks and pathways bylaw, under which Pawlowski was charged and which have been in place for years, were called overly broad and vague in the judgment. As well, because the charter applies across the country, the decision could have an impact on other bylaws in other cities, Tolley said. Pawlowski, who preaches in front of Old City Hall and in a park near the drop-in centre, has argued he needs the loudspeaker to be heard by drug dealers, prostitutes and others. The city has said the amplified voice generated complaints, including from residents across the river. Tolley said the city is concerned about Fradsham’s comment that the actions of some city officials “fall precariously close to being excessive and . . . an abuse of power.” “We don’t believe they have,” he added. http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/City+challenges+Calgary+preacher+acquittal/2369791/story.html

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PS: Look at this, due to the undeniable Recession, budget and tax cuts,  Municipalities across Canada have  been cutting back even on their services, snow clearing now too, which has been leading up to more car accidents, and cause the police cannot tell the truth about their employers, the police now lie, and divert the truth, saying that speeding vehicles were the cause of most of the accidents. In reality now also  speeding also still is not the main reasons for accidents but driving while impaired is.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/drivers-will-face-significant-insurance-rates/

Unacceptable Violence Against Christians

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Thursday, October 16, 2008

Orgy Of Violence Against Christians


Christian nuns in Orissa appeal for an end to the onslaught

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2:30pm UK, Wednesday October 15, 2008
Alex Crawford in Orissa
Tens of thousands of Christians have been made homeless after an orgy of violence by Hindu hardliners in the east Indian state of Orissa.

More than 300 villages have been destroyed and more than 4,000 homes burnt in violent attacks which have been going on since August and show no sign of stopping.

The Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh has now sent hundreds of paramilitary troops to the area to try to stop the persecution which he’s called the nation’s shame.

Nearly 60 people have been killed, 18,000 injured and there are scores of reports about gang rapes, including of one nun.

Fourteen districts in the area have been affected and more than 200 hundred churches destroyed.
Many of the Christians have criticised the state police for not doing enough and in some cases they have been accused of adding to the violence and intimidation.

More than 1,000 people crowd around stick fences in the Naugaon refuge camp in the Khandamal district of Orissa as guards patrol outside.

This is the area which has seen the worst violence and the 400 families crowded into this camp are only a few miles away from their former homes.

They came in their hundreds and just ransacked our homes, setting them on fire. If you didn’t run away, you were beaten. They told us we could only stay if we converted to Hinduism. Otherwise, they said they would kill us.

One woman reveals the hardliners’ brutal treatment.
The camp may now be guarded by paramilitary police but they still cannot prevent attacks. The camp has had two firebombs thrown into it.

The tales these people tell of the cruelty wrought upon them is shocking.

One victim’s lip quivered uncontrollably as she told us how she watched her brother being burned alive by the Hindu mobs.
“They came in their hundreds and just ransacked our homes, setting them on fire. If you didn’t run away, you were beaten. They told us we could only stay if we converted to Hinduism. Otherwise, they said they would kill us,” she said.

The trouble began when a prominent Hindu leader was killed in mid-August. He had been leading a campaign to convert Christians to Hinduism.

Many of his followers believed his killers were Christians, despite the police saying there was no evidence of this.

They embarked on an orgy of revenge and it still has not stopped.

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Tensions, attacks continue in India

Posted on Oct 13, 2008 | by Vishal Arora/Compass Direct News
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NEW DELHI, India (BP)–After police in India’s state of Orissa confirmed Oct. 6 that a key Hindu nationalist was killed by Maoists, a Hindu extremist group allegedly circulated forged documents in an attempt to implicate a local church in the Aug. 23 murder.

The Hindu Jagaran Samukhya (Society for Revival of Hinduism or HJS) circulated documents saying that Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati’s killed in Orissa’s Kandhamal district was planned at a meeting at Bethikala Church on May 25 attended by 17 people following a briefing and order by religious leaders, the Press Trust of India news agency reported Oct. 9.

Local Christian leaders responded by saying they will file defamation charges.

“We will file both civil and criminal defamation cases against the person who made such allegations,” Joseph Kalathil of the Catholic Archbishop in Bhubaneswar and Prafulla Ku Sabhapati, president of the Bethikala Parish Council of Kandhamal, said in a statement. “Not only our signatures were forged, the contents of the documents were also fabricated.”

Orissa state police confirmed that Maoists killed Saraswati after a communist leader told NDTV 24X7 news that his organization was behind the murder, targeting Saraswati as a key leader of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council or VHP).

“We left two letters claiming responsibility for the murders,” said Sabyasachi Panda, chief of the Orissa unit of the banned Communist Party of India-Maoist.

Panda said the government of Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik “suppressed those letters.” The Orissa government, which is affiliated with the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), will support the World Hindu Council, Panda said. “The state government made it look like Christian groups were responsible for the attack. The Christian community in Orissa does not
have any Maoist organization supporting them here,” Panda said.

In another development, The Indian Express reported that the Orissa police had arrested three tribal Christians in connection with Saraswati’s murder and obtained confessions of their involvement.

A representative of the Christian Legal Association told Compass Direct News that, according to Orissa sources, the police had tortured the three Christians to pressure them to confess to a crime they did not commit.

After the assassination of Saraswati, Hindu extremist groups blamed local Christians and began attacks on them, their houses and their churches in spite of the Orissa police and media stating on the day of the murder that suspected Maoists had killed Saraswati.

According to the All India Christian Council, more than 60 people have been killed, more than 18,000 injured and around 4,500 houses and churches destroyed in the “retributive” violence. Two Christian women, including a nun, reportedly were gang-raped. The violence, which later spread to at least 14 districts of Orissa, has left more than 50,000 people homeless.

In Kandhamal and other districts, the violence continues seven weeks after the violence began.

About 15 houses were burned down Oct. 9 by a mob in the Lansaripalli village in the neighboring Boudh district, The Hindu reported. The attackers allegedly came from the Gochhapada area of Kandhamal district.

“Thursday’s was the third incident in Boudh district,” the daily added. “More than 100 houses were burnt down in two separate attacks in the past few days.”

On Oct. 8, a mob burned and looted at least 25 houses of Christians in the Balligada village in Kandhamal, Ajay Singh of the Catholic Archdiocese of Bhubaneswar told Compass.

On Oct. 7, five or more houses were torched in Jalespanga area of Kandhamal. Another house was burned in the Sujeli village.

The Hindu said the more than 16,000 Christians living in various relief camps were not returning to their villages, fearing attacks on them if they refused to convert to Hinduism.

Singh, of the Bhubaneswar Archdiocese, told Compass that more than 12,000 Christians from various relief camps had moved out of Kandhamal to other districts and states, as they feared more attacks.

The president of the VHP, Ashok Singhal, told India’s Zee News channel on Oct. 5, “What Hindu organizations including the VHP, the Bajrang Dal and the RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, India’s chief Hindu nationalist group] are doing in Orissa is all legal and is the reaction of the murder of VHP leader Saraswati, who was like Jesus Christ to us.”

In an interview with The Week magazine published the same day, Singhal said Hindu youth are “ready to die and, if necessary, to kill. [Their] patience is ebbing.”

Singhal added that a “Hindu uprising” had begun, “and the political parties will have to rethink and reinvent themselves, for their own existence. If there is no arrangement for Hindus’ security, they’ll do it on their own. … If that self-defence is militancy, so be it….”

In addition, a leader of the Bajrang Dal in the southern state of Karnataka admitted to supporting recent attacks on churches while speaking to The Week magazine. “We supported those who attacked the churches, as it is a justified fight,” Bajrang Dal convenor Mahendra Kumar said.

The violence in Orissa spread to several other states, including Karnataka, where around 20 churches were destroyed and 20 Christians were attacked in the recent weeks.

As many political parties and rights groups have demanded a ban on the Bajrang Dal for attacking Christians and churches in Orissa and other states, the federal government ruled by the United Progressive Alliance has mandated that the National Integration Council give its recommendations, the Times of India reported Oct. 10.

The Bajrang Dal, however, warned that any such move would have “grave consequences” for the government politically, saying there was “no legal ground” for such action.

There are some 900,000 Christians in Orissa, which has a population of 36.8 million.

Compass Direct News, based in Santa Ana, Calif., provides reports on Christians worldwide who are persecuted for their faith.

Tuesday, October 14, 2008

RALLY IN FRONT OF THE UNITED NATIONS -NY OCT 11th 2008

Dear Friends,

A Rally was organized in Newyork in front of UN Headquarters to protest the violence against Christians in India.
The link to view these pictures and videos
http://picasaweb.google.com/persis61/RallyINFRONTOFTHEUNITEDNATIONSNYOct11th2008#slideshow

God Bless You

Monday, October 13, 2008

Christians fear the sword and fire in India

The Indian government has not placed the onus of the multiple murders, rapes, and arson on the culprits: Hindu extremists.

by Joseph D Souza and John Dayal
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Our community is facing a trial by gun, sword, fire and rapine, the worst crisis it has seen in its 2,000 year old history in India, one of the earliest homelands of the faith. There is ethnic cleansing of Christians in Orissa where violence continues unabated for 45 day at the hands of bloodthirsty gangs Civil Society identifies as the Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad. So far 300 villages have been cleansed of all Christians, the 17,000 or so in government’s refugee camps have been told they can go home only if they become Hindus. More than 4,000 houses and more than 100 churches have been burnt. Perhaps thirty thousand or more, more than half of them children are hiding in forests or are living as Internally Displaced Persons. More than 50 have been butchered, often burnt alive.

A nun and an uncounted number of other women have been gang raped. Gender violence was one of the unspoken traumas of the widespread violence in Orissa in December2007. For all practical purposes, Orissa seems not to be a part of India where the rule of law operates, and the Indian Constitution remains operative.

Orissa is ruled by a coalition of the Biju Janata Dal and the Bharatiya Janata party [BJP]. The violence has spread to other States ruled by the BJP, including Karnataka, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, and Uttarakhand. Other States have not remained untouched, and Jharkhand, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Delhi have also seen demolition of churches, the maiming or killing of priests.

A Constitutional authority as the Leader of the Opposition in Parliament, and the supreme leader of his party, Mr Lal Krishna Advani could have ordered his governments in the States to act and stop the violence. He chose to remain a silent spectator for more than 40 days. When he spoke at last to condemn the rape of the Nun in Orissa, he immediately diverted attention from the heinous crime by speaking of `forcible and fraudulent conversions’ during a meeting with some Christian leaders, called at the behest of a Hindu swami from Rishikesh and some BJP Members of Parliament. The dialogue was neither religious, nor political.

There is nothing in these BJP and RSS dialogues that identifies the killers, arsonists and rapists. There is little that puts the onus of the violence where it belongs – on a political leadership which has conspired with the goons and its police which is guilty both of inaction in saving in the victims, and of participating in the violence against the Christians.

We are deeply anguished. We see this and similar attempts at `dialogue’ as an insidious and clever way on the eve of the meeting of the National Integration Council to absolve the BJP of responsibility and to save the goons of its parent organisation, the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh and its militant terrorist organisations, Bajrang dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad who run a parallel government in Orissa and other States. The organisations are now facing the wrath of the entire civil society of India, and of the world.

The All India Christian Council welcomes all dialogue. It is the cornerstone of our everyday life and Christian witness. But a dialogue presupposes free will, a peaceful platform, a structured agenda, a common goal for peace through mutual respect, understanding and acknowledgement of each other as equals.

The BJP-RSS `dialogue’ exercises in some parts of the country exude the stink of coercion and beating a smaller community into submission and a whittling away of Constitutional rights. This also becomes a strategy to divide the community and to isolate and target smaller groups, in this case the Believers Church and the New Life Fellowship, through well placed and motivated media gossip. These churches have pleaded innocence but face a well constructed campaign designed to extinguish them. We condemn this and affirm the unity and solidarity of the Church in its entire rich diversity of denominations and Rites, from the Catholic to the Episcopal, Evangelical and Pentecostal groups. Everybody who believes in Christ is a Christian.

We also denounce forcible and fraudulent conversions. They would by definition be illegal, immoral and against the Faith. Five decades of Church documents testify to this. Conversion is the work of the Holy Spirit. Repeated exercises by the National Minorities Commission and efforts by aggressive governments have failed to provide a single proven case of forcible or fraudulent for forcible conversion. And yet State guarantees on Freedom of Faith, including the propagation of faith, and human rights are smothered in calls for moratoriums and brutalised in police harassment.

There should be more dialogue and an encompassing one on all issues so vital to the unity and integrity of India. Religious leaders should dialogue with other religious leaders in bilateral and multilateral forums. Parliament provides the forum for political dialogue. Civil society is the best platform for a larger peaceful and continuing dialogue and debate. These are forums we trust. And we call upon them, including the National Integration Council, to act soon to save not just the Christian community in Orissa, Karnataka and other States, but to save the very Idea of India in all its glorious diversity, its precious secularism and its civilisation dignity.

Rev Dr. Joseph D Souza is the international president of the Dalit Freedom Network and president of the All India Christian Council.
Dr John Dayal is an activist in India for the human rights of Christians and Dalits – formerly known as “untouchables.”

Karnataka church fire raises fear of fresh attack

14 Oct 2008, 0212 hrs IST,TNN
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BANGALORE: Was it an accident or yet another attack by miscreants? With no answers in sight, the Karnataka police and church authorities are at lo
ggerheads over what sparked the fire which gutted a room and partially damaged the main prayer hall of St Antony’s Church at Yedavanahalli near Attibele in Bangalore Rural district in the wee hours of Monday.

The village is about 34 km from Bangalore. While church authorities claimed miscreants had lit the fire, police maintained it was an accident.

The police’s first theory that a short circuit was the cause was swiftly disproved by Bescom (Bangalore Electricity Supply Company) engineers who visited the spot.

Two constables posted outside the church first noticed the fire around 1am and tried to stamp it out. One of the church doors was kept open so that the constables could take shelter if it rained. When they couldn’t control the flames, they alerted neighbours who tried their best to put out the fire.

Soon, they realized that a fire was still blazing in a locked room, where most of the things were stored. That included the cassocks, about 300 sarees gifted by devotees, CDs and copies of the Bible. The people smashed the window panes and threw water inside. But, the fire raged on and fire tenders were summoned. By 2.15am, they arrived and extinguished the fire.

Fr Santhosh Almeida of the church lodged a complaint with the police and requested the police to investigate the matter. This church is administered by the church at Adigondanahalli, whose priest is Fr C Francis.

“I received a call around 2.30am that there was a fire in our church. Later, the police called me and said they were on the spot. I visited the place this morning,” he said. Fr Francis had doubts about the short circuit theory. He did not rule out the possibility of an attack.

Pregnant women bear the brunt of Orissa violence

13 Oct 2008, 0319 hrs IST, Anand Soondas,TNN
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BHUBANESWAR: The relentless persecution of Christians in Kandhmal, forcing them to remain in relief camps scattered across Orissa, is now presenti
ng a new problem — unsafe deliveries by women. Stranded without access to doctors, hospitals or medical kits, most women are delivering in relief camps with the help of fellow refugees and — if they are fortunate — some anganwadi workers.

But not all have been lucky to be able to give birth. “There have been 10 miscarriages in the past week,” said Jyotirmoy Naik in Cuttack. “Nirmala Digal, Mita Digal, Ranju Naik, Padmini Naik, Mithila Naik — all miscarried because there’s no help for expecting women at the camps.”

Jacob Pradhan, a Christian priest, said: “In the last week, three women in Baliguda delivered babies
, but all away from hospitals. They gave birth in unhygienic conditions and got the help of anganwadi workers. It’s a huge struggle.”

Rev Prakash Naik, who’s active in the Raikia camps, said even if women do manage to give birth, the conditions in the relief shelters are so bad that mortality is a big fear. “Just look around Vijaya school camp and you’ll see what I mean. Survival is a huge factor. Water has gathered in dirty, mosquito-infested puddles and people are defecating in the open.”

Many other miscarriages took place as Christians fled to the jungles and stayed there for days with attacks against them showing no signs of abating.

“Pregnant women suffered as they hid in the forests. While lack of food hindered healthy deliveries for the emaciated, others slipped and fell while running for their lives,” said Krishna Kanta Naik, a social worker in Baliguda.

“Nine women have delivered at the camps in the past week, but the children are very unhealthy.”

Caught in such testing times, the names of the babies, before their formal christening, reflect the travails of the mothers. While one infant is called Danga (riot), another is Sangram (rebellion). “Of course, the formal names will be given after 21 days, as is our ritual, but elders are calling them by these names,” said Nalin Naik.

“Because these are the only words that are there in the minds of people here right now.”

But what is also upsetting many in the camps, apart from risk-laden deliveries, is the inability to observe ‘ekusia’, the 21-day ritual marked by women when someone among them has a baby.

Conversion business

By Kushwant Singh
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RECENT INCIDENTS of violence and vandalism against Christians and their churches deserve to be condemned unreservedly. They have blackened the fair face of Mother India and ruined the reputation of Hindus being the most religiously tolerant people in the world. At the same time, we must take a closer look at people who convert from one faith to another. To start with, let it be understood that these days there are no forced conversions anywhere in the world. India is no exception. Those who assert that the poor, innocent and ignorant of India are being forced to accept Christianity are blatant liars. A few, very few educated and well-to-do men and women convert to another faith when they do not find solace in the faith of their ancestors. Examples are to be found in America and Europe of men and women of substance turning from Judaism and Christianity to Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and Sikhism.
There are also men and women who convert to the faith of those they wish to marry. We have plenty of cases of Hindu, Muslim, Christian and Sikh inter-marriages. However, the largest number of converts come from communities discriminated against. The outstanding example was that of Dalit leader Bhimrao Ambedkar who led his Mahar community to embrace Buddhism because they were discriminated against by upper caste Hindus. This is also true of over 90 per cent of Indian Muslims whose ancestors being lower caste embraced Islam which gave them equal status. That gives lie to the often-repeated slander that Islam made converts by the sword.

An equally large number of people converted out of gratitude. They were neglected, ignorant and poor. When strangers came to look after them, opened schools and hospitals for them, taught them, healed them and helped them to stand on their own feet to hold their heads high, they felt grateful towards their benefactors. Most of them were Christian missionaries who worked in remote villages and brought hope to the lives of people who were deprived of hope.

To this day, Christian missionaries run the best schools, colleges and hospitals in our country. They are inexpensive and free of corruption. They get converts because of the sense of gratitude they generate. Can this be called forcible conversion? Why donʼt the great champions of Hinduism look within their hearts and find out why so many are disenchanted by their pretensions of piety? Let them first set their own houses in order, purge the caste system out of Hindu society and welcome with open arms all those who wish to join them. No one will then convert from Hinduism to another religion.

Khushwant Singh is a prolific writer and journalist in India. A popular Urdu and Punjabi poet and a self proclaimed agnostic. He edited Illustrated Weekly of India and daily Hindustan Times.

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Hindu Threat to Christians: Convert or Flee


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A Christian in her burned home in the Indian state of Orissa. Villagers blamed Hindu militants.
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By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Published: October 12, 2008
BOREPANGA, India — The family of Solomon Digal was summoned by neighbors to what serves as a public square in front of the village tea shop.
They were ordered to get on their knees and bow before the portrait of a Hindu preacher. They were told to turn over their Bibles, hymnals and the two brightly colored calendar images of Christ that hung on their wall. Then, Mr. Digal, 45, a Christian since childhood, was forced to watch his Hindu neighbors set the items on fire.

“ ‘Embrace Hinduism, and your house will not be demolished,’ ” Mr. Digal recalled being told on that Wednesday afternoon in September. “ ‘Otherwise, you will be killed, or you will be thrown out of the village.’ ”

India, the world’s most populous democracy and officially a secular nation, is today haunted by a stark assault on one of its fundamental freedoms. Here in eastern Orissa State, riven by six weeks of religious clashes, Christian families like the Digals say they are being forced to abandon their faith in exchange for their safety.

The forced conversions come amid widening attacks on Christians here and in at least five other states across the country, as India prepares for national elections next spring.

The clash of faiths has cut a wide swath of panic and destruction through these once quiet hamlets fed by paddy fields and jackfruit trees. Here in Kandhamal, the district that has seen the greatest violence, more than 30 people have been killed, 3,000 homes burned and over 130 churches destroyed, including the tin-roofed Baptist prayer hall where the Digals worshiped. Today it is a heap of rubble on an empty field, where cows blithely graze.

Across this ghastly terrain lie the singed remains of mud-and-thatch homes. Christian-owned businesses have been systematically attacked. Orange flags (orange is the sacred color of Hinduism) flutter triumphantly above the rooftops of houses and storefronts.

India is no stranger to religious violence between Christians, who make up about 2 percent of the population, and India’s Hindu-majority of 1.1 billion people. But this most recent spasm is the most intense in years.

It was set off, people here say, by the killing on Aug. 23 of a charismatic Hindu preacher known as Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, who for 40 years had rallied the area’s people to choose Hinduism over Christianity.

The police have blamed Maoist guerrillas for the swami’s killing. But Hindu radicals continue to hold Christians responsible.

In recent weeks, they have plastered these villages with gruesome posters of the swami’s hacked corpse. “Who killed him?” the posters ask. “What is the solution?”

Behind the clashes are long-simmering tensions between equally impoverished groups: the Panas and Kandhas. Both original inhabitants of the land, the two groups for ages worshiped the same gods. Over the past several decades, the Panas for the most part became Christian, as Roman Catholic and Baptist missionaries arrived here more than 60 years ago, followed more recently by Pentecostals, who have proselytized more aggressively.

Meanwhile, the Kandhas, in part through the teachings of Swami Laxmanananda, embraced Hinduism. The men tied the sacred Hindu white thread around their torsos; their wives daubed their foreheads with bright red vermilion. Temples sprouted.

Hate has been fed by economic tensions as well, as the government has categorized each group differently and given them different privileges.

The Kandhas accused the Panas of cheating to obtain coveted quotas for government jobs. The Christian Panas, in turn, say their neighbors have become resentful as they have educated themselves and prospered.

Their grievances have erupted in sporadic clashes over the past 15 years, but they have exploded with a fury since the killing of Swami Laxmanananda.

Two nights after his death, a Hindu mob in the village of Nuagaon dragged a Catholic priest and a nun from their residence, tore off much of their clothing and paraded them through the streets.
The nun told the police that she had been raped by four men, a charge the police say was borne out by a medical examination. Yet no one was arrested in the case until five weeks later, after a storm of media coverage. Today, five men are under arrest in connection with inciting the riots. The police say they are trying to find the nun and bring her back here to identify her attackers.
Given a chance to explain the recent violence, Subash Chauhan, the state’s highest-ranking leader of Bajrang Dal, a Hindu radical group, described much of it as “a spontaneous reaction.”

He said in an interview that the nun had not been raped but had had regular consensual sex.

On Sunday evening, as much of Kandhamal remained under curfew, Mr. Chauhan sat in the hall of a Hindu school in the state capital, Bhubaneshwar, beneath a huge portrait of the swami. A state police officer was assigned to protect him round the clock. He cupped a trilling Blackberry in his hand.

Mr. Chauhan denied that his group was responsible for forced conversions and in turn accused Christian missionaries of luring villagers with incentives of schools and social services.

He was asked repeatedly whether Christians in Orissa should be left free to worship the god of their choice. “Why not?” he finally said, but he warned that it was unrealistic to expect the Kandhas to politely let their Pana enemies live among them as followers of Jesus.

“Who am I to give assurance?” he snapped. “Those who have exploited the Kandhas say they want to live together?”

Besides, he said, “they are Hindus by birth.”

Hindu extremists have held ceremonies in the country’s indigenous belt for the past several years intended to purge tribal communities of Christian influence.

It is impossible to know how many have been reconverted here, in the wake of the latest violence, though a three-day journey through the villages of Kandhamal turned up plenty of anecdotal evidence.

A few steps from where the nun had been attacked in Nuagaon, five men, their heads freshly shorn, emerged from a soggy tent in a relief camp for Christians fleeing their homes.

The men had also been summoned to a village meeting in late August, where hundreds of their neighbors stood with machetes in hand and issued a firm order: Get your heads shaved and bow down before our gods, or leave this place.

Trembling with fear, Daud Nayak, 56, submitted to a shaving, a Hindu sign of sacrifice. He drank, as instructed, a tumbler of diluted cow dung, considered to be purifying.

In the eyes of his neighbors, he reckoned, he became a Hindu.

In his heart, he said, he could not bear it.

All five men said they fled the next day with their families. They refuse to return.

In another village, Birachakka, a man named Balkrishna Digal and his son, Saroj, said they had been summoned to a similar meeting and told by Hindu leaders who came from nearby villages that they, too, would have to convert. In their case, the ceremony was deferred because of rumors of Christian-Hindu clashes nearby.

For the time being, the family had placed an orange flag on their mud home. Their Hindu neighbors promised to protect them.

Here in Borepanga, the family of Solomon Digal was not so lucky. Shortly after they recounted their Sept. 10 Hindu conversion story to a reporter in the dark of night, the Digals were again summoned by their neighbors. They were scolded and fined 501 rupees, or about $12, a pinching sum here.

The next morning, calmly clearing his cauliflower field, Lisura Paricha, one of the Hindu men who had summoned the Digals, confirmed that they had been penalized. Their crime, he said, was to talk to outsiders.

Lies, slander, personal defamation on the net.. Be warned

Who are you to falsely judge another man’s servant now..     (Rev 3:19 KJV)

 

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.   Acts 20:18

 

And when they arrived he said to them: You yourselves are well acquainted with my manner of living among you from the first day that I set foot in [the province of] Asia, and how I continued afterward, Acts 20:19 Serving the Lord with all humility in tears and in the midst of adversity (affliction and trials) which befell me, due to the plots of the Jews [against me]; Acts 20:20

How I did not shrink from telling you anything that was for your benefit and teaching you in public meetings and from house to house, Acts 20:21 But constantly {and} earnestly I bore testimony both to Jews and Greeks, urging them to turn in repentance [that is due] to God and to have faith in our Lord Jesus Christ [that is due Him].    https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/oppressors-or-bullies-are-always-unacceptable/

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Speaking in tongues is both a personal even, praying in tongues but also a public event.. The purpose of tongues with interpretation in public is twofold. One purpose is to provide a sign for unbelievers that they might believe. The other purpose is to edify the church body. Tongues with interpretation declares the mighty works of God, exalts His name, and prompts the believers to worship Him in spirit and in truth. It also explains and calls for commitment to the church’s present mission, and neither of these gifts have even ceased in operation these last days now too..
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Also what is the advantage of “praying in tongues” in one’s private prayer life?
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There are at least four uses or purposes of unknown tongues, according to the New Testament: (1) as the initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4; 10:46; 19:6); (2) as a gift to edify the church when the tongues are interpreted (1 Corinthians 12:10); (3) as a sign for unbelievers that they might believe (1 Corinthians 14:22); and (4) as a God-given provision for effective prayer and praise (1 Corinthians 14:2, 14). In all these cases, tongues is the same in essence, but different in purpose.
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Praying in tongues during private devotions is an additional ministry of the Holy Spirit. Many believers today testify that praying in tongues greatly enriches their spiritual lives. The limitations of intellect are overcome as the Holy Spirit quickens the human spirit in glorious expressions of worship and adoration. The quandary of limited vocabulary and the inability to express feelings and concerns of the soul disappear as a Spirit-imparted language flows out from the heart. It is as if heaven and earth, time and eternity, God and man all compress together in a glorious act of worship.
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Also since the Holy Spirit has authentically inspired next the interpretation of the tongues now , the revelations given will never contradict the teachings of the Bible. If the interpretation is contrary to Scripture, it is out of order and must be ruled so. The Bible is the measure by which all speaking in tongues utterances as well must be judged. While spiritual gifts are divine in their origin, but they are entrusted to people, and they must operate in a way that is consistent with biblical teaching   1 Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order..

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  bad persons, bad , pastors, leaders, elders, Corporations too who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,.

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Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over..,

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I really get a big chuckle in hearing from all those pretend, rather hot air speaking in tongues experts who themselves admit they cannot speak in tongues.

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(Jer 2:19 KJV)  Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

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(Jer 3:22 KJV)  Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God.

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(Jer 5:6 KJV)  Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities: every one that goeth out thence shall be torn in pieces: because their transgressions are many, and their backslidings are increased.

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( Is 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have love, pity, {and} mercy for him, and to our God, for He will multiply to him His abundant pardon. 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

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Is 56:10 watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge; they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, they love to slumber.

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Having clearly not an exaggerated emphasis of your own self importance, being totally in  control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive and generally characterized by perfectionism, extreme tendencies,   and a real cover-up for your fear of having your own sinful flaws exposed. You are exposed now still too..  are grossly in error, in need of professional help, good pastoral counselling.. Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too. If you are a   Control freak, a bully, liar, basher  you are not only still unrealistic, immature, immoral person  but you  have a serious personality disorder. You are a menace, plus a real danger to yourself and to others Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has  to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own  negative ways, for they are too set in them now too. Control freaks or Bullies, abusers, wrongfully do cause  others stress so they can maintain a false sense of order. These people themselves firstly are are still riddled mostly with anxiety, fear, insecurity, and anger. They’re very critical of themselves their lover and their friends, but underneath all that still too that supposedly perfect outfit and great body is a mountain of real unhappiness, unresolved guilt, disturbed person.   I have a whole site that deals with true and false Pentecostal bashing .. There was so much emotional rubbish, lies, distortions in  critiquing the Pentecostals  that they were not at all  worth reading, it rather  gives a real bad impression to the readers about the writers, posters firstly. Why are they so filled with demons and hate? The devil is the one sided accuser of the brethren and too many writers there clearly had fell into his hold.  it seems these writers were not real Christians to start of with, they were  clearly ignorant, or ashamed off the Bible, God’s words. For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/

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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the  the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others. “For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by iniquity” (Acts 8:20-23).

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(Acts 20:29 KJV)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

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(Acts 20:30 KJV)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

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(Acts 20:31 KJV)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

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(Acts 20:32 KJV)  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

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(Acts 20:33 KJV)  I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.

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(Acts 20:34 KJV)  Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

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(Acts 20:35 KJV)  I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

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The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing even the Judas Iscariot is noted in history as the one who betrayed Him (Jesus). Yet Judas was first numbered among the Twelve apostles (Luke 6:13, 22:3; Acts 1:16-17 numbered with us), “chosen” by Christ Himself,  so how next did the “Apostle Judas” became also the traitor? What drove him to his immoral acts. The reality is that he had never died to self too.Too many a persons also do falsely deny who they really are, hiding behind prestigious or pretentious facade that they are unknown, cannot be discerned, read, known cause they are too complex.. you can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

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Jesus himself said a person can be known simply by what they do. good people do good things.. and bad people tend to do bad things.

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(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

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(Mat 7:19 KJV)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

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(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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(Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

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(Mat 7:22 KJV)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

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(Mat 7:23 KJV)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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(Mat 7:24 KJV)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

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(Mat 7:25 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

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(Mat 7:26 KJV)  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

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(Mat 7:27 KJV)  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

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The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior   also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

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From: Franco Barone

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:55 AM

Subject: Re: L’exposition du public et la poursuite des coupables-

Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty  No one during the church age is brought before “the council” for saying “Raca!” (numskull, empty-head, or fool). No one is in danger of judgment simply because he is angry with his brother without cause.

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My reply-   Slandering, lying about, calling a specific person false names, personal attacks,  even on any public forum is still unacceptable now even if you are a Christian, a Plymouth Brethren one now too.

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Franco you have  your false personal misinterpretations of the Bible as a false cover-up for your immoral acts on the net .. but Bullying and calling a person names such as a fool, crazy, or what ever is still an unacceptable immoral act according both to Canada’s courts and the Human Rights commissions now as well and is rightfully fully prosecutable as you can see in the references detailed. If you are still unable to properly read the Bible, do talk to a good lawyer and he will tell you the same thing      All Comments containing inflammatory material, lies, slanders, offensive language, personal attacks are not permitted and will be deleted…. Despite our best hints some persons do too often turn from the Christian ideal and cheapen the quality of discourse even for everyone else. Unfortunately, it is simply impossible to write a comprehensive set of rules forbidding every type of UnChristian behavior. No love so don’t write it.. The fact that this rule may not still forbid a certain type of post does not automatically make an uncivil post appropriate, nor does it imply that the administrators will next still approve of disrespectful behavior. Every persons has a responsibility to participate in a respectful manner, and to help foster an atmosphere of thoughtful discussion. In this regard, we strongly advise all persons to  have a little common decency. Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual on this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden. Will be deleted

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And some of the unacceptable responding bullies, bashers who try their false personal attacks on me now cause I had stepped on their toes, firstly they do not even know me well enough to make any kind of personal judgmental bashings  upon me never mind doing it now even in public too, and slander is what it is.. . Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on various sites I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,  but clearly the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.  

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Some Brethren persons  who write to me clearly have often said to me that they do not like the replies I post back on the net. I do not spam, I firstly write an email to no one unless they had written to me or have requested me to write to them. But I am free to write, in decency now too,  on whatever I want on the net  even about the unacceptable brethren abuses, Pentecostal bashers, haters.. like it or not. Life is not one sided where the crooks, perverts have the sole rights and no one else.

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“”From: franco barone  Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:26 PM   Subject: Re: Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest Your a child and have yet to put away your childish things.  You need to read your own words of who is accusing whom, on the internet.  Be assured he who thinks he standeth will surely fall, and how great is that fall.” .  So go ahead and prosecute you fool! What are you waiting for? ”

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My rightful reply Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:41 PM  Subject:

Re: L’exposition du public et la poursuite des coupables- Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty

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(Mat 5:22 KJV)  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.  . Now you are adding to your continual  unacceptable slander of me by calling me a fool.. slandering me again.. contrary to the laws of Canada, the Charter rights, and what you do not honour now the laws of the country too, never mind God’s laws clearly as well.. And you say you want to me to go ahead and prove to the world that I have asked your RIGHTFULLY to repent, stop your  immoral acts. .. Well  I have already done that ..( I have also deleted your bad posts, slanders too)  but look again and do see the people I wrote too worldwide, Canada wide, Ontario, including Quebec, Canada .. Do see my posts posts about you on the net too..  .  as a Canadian I have legal, human rights, ask any lawyer now, cause you need one .. your OWN DISTORTED  interpretation of the Bible does not count for me, when clearly you falsely as we all can see FIRSTLY EVEN THAT  now do not practice it even.  Preach first to yourself FOR I would rather see you live it firstly and so would the rest of us. Do note I PERSONALLY   do not HAVE TO resort  to calling you  UNACCEPTABLE  NAMES to these discuss issues… YET YOU SIMPLY unacceptably now DO HAVE TO DO THAT. Is that an other  example of a CLEARLY bad  Brethren, dispensational Christian NOW?       . Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest..  I also rightfully do not accept any personal lies, slanders, abuses, personal attacks, defamation  quietly.

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Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfully cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back..   . Be warned.  No I do not accept personal insults lies, abuse, slander of me from even so called Christian Brethren for It is a  prosecutable human rights courts offence in Canada even if it is done on the internet. Be warned now.. (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. .  As even posted on the net now, on my many sites too,  I have already contacted 500 elected officials in Canada, all the major news editors and have lodged formal complaints now about the much too many lying, abusive brethren, and I have gotten response from 2 provinces, related  minister already and they are working on the matter  . ” You are a heretic, and you call yourself a Christian. .. You are a braggart and a bully. A false accuser of all true born-again believing Christians…  You are indeed a hypocrite. 50 years? You have learned nothing. …    You error in not knowing what you speak of, and it is to your shame for you do the LORD Christ Jesus an injustice.  Surely the dog has turned to his vomit. Diotrophes.”  

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Lies, libels, personal slanders, character assignations even from any  professing Christian persons now  are still unacceptable and full prosecutable

 

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Brethren sins shouted from the house tops and they do not like it. .  (Heb 10:24 KJV)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:  . BUT INSTEAD NAME CALLINGS. BASHING, is what they mainly do.. and are known for as well.  . I SHOULD RIGHTFULLY NOW MAKE A COLLECTION OF ALL THE LIES, DIRTY NAMES, SLANDERS, PLYMOUTH BRETHREN RESPOND WITH..GOD HIMSELF DOES NOT ACCEPT VERBAL, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, NEITHER DO I. THEY FIRSTLY SHOULD TAKE THE BEAMS OUT OF THEIR  OWN EYE FIRST.   https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/   http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/ .  Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest

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“Perhaps one of the greatest heresies of our day arises from a theological ignorance with respect to the Bible’s teaching on sanctification. While .. Many (Falsely) simply operate under the assumption that obedience, repentance, love for God’s law, and mortification of sin are unnecessary addendums to true faith,  reserved for a special class of “spiritual Christians”, yet still optional for those “carnal Christians” who embrace Christ as Savior but refuse Him as Lord.   How does (anyone,) Ryrie respond to the New Testament texts, especially in the gospels, which so obviously teach that both a change of mind and heart are necessary consequences of justifying faith? … While inconsistent dispensationalists can and do believe in the necessity of repentance, the logical conclusions of classic dispensationalism yield the kind of devastating errors which sees faith as nothing more than a change of mind with regards to the facts of the gospel.  ”  http://covenantgrace.blogspot.com/2008/02/some-of-puritans-believed-that.html

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Lip service Christianity is still not acceptable. Ongoing continual personal repentance  for sins  is also not optional.. but a necessary subjection even for http://startnow72.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/benny-hinn-makes-todd-bentley-looked-like-an-amatuer/#comment-999

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>>Grace said, on August 11th, 2008 at 11:33 pm   “the nonconformist” ..  he is very violent and abusive!

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(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.  (Heb 12:9 KJV)  Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?  . The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.

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The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions Christianity – Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters .   You can bully me, bash me, play on words too, even call me a liar, but that will not deny the truth of what I have experienced  the last 3 decades on the net and in many in churches now as well.. the truth that any  bad Conservative is not any better than a bad Liberal.. and professing Conservatives, professing Christians,  evangelical pastors included  who  themselves now wrongfully are too often now just as ungodly human right violators as any of the ungodly, secular  persons too. They also should first Judge themselves before they judge the others, Christians too like to judge others but not themselves. . Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too.

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I always find it very interesting how so many people, professing Christians even  like to talk about themselves and others, to post ON THE NET the supposed sins of others, but not their own sins..  REALLY HYPOCRITICAL STILL TOO. (Mat 3:8 KJV)  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:  9   And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10    And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5   Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.  . (Mat 7:14 KJV)  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

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Isn’t nice that according to the Canadian Charter of rights I too now can write to absolutely now any one I want to  still, all news editors, all politicians too,  and that if they  do not want to read my emails they  can just delete them too.. or they  can first take their  email of the net and stop requesting people to write to them. I would have thought that they too  knew that by now too.. funny.. What do any of them still think they or you are the only one who can tell, write and post the truths even on the net still? and the rest of us cannot?  . It seems you cannot trust the federal or the provincial, municipal  governments in Canada still..  do  we all do these days too do keep on getting media revelations of abuses, corruptions, lies etc.

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/toronto-councillor-adam-giambrone-lies/

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I do also  have to say I was amazed so readily myself. How in my last few decades of Canadian experiences how quickly the too apparent crooks it seems are the first ones who threaten to or do  sue, even how they do try to shut up the truth from the public exposure, a subject that I  have often written about..   . Our governments and the courts clearly are firstly very slow to enforce prosecutions of the really clearly bad persons such as the bad cops, bad civil and public servants, too many tax evaders, thieves, tax payer’s money abusers    and undeniably as well but what the very apparent crooks can too readily sue the others.. ..  falsely can attempt to suppress, obstruct  justice from being carried out?  . And there are  still too many for my liking in Canada  crooked professionals such as even crooked realtors, bad Real estate firms, bad Accountants, bad lawyers, bad Pastors and priests now too, bad cops, bad medical workers, bad civil and public servants, too many tax evaders, even too many  bad telecommunication, internet firms guilty of false, misleading advertising and customer abuses too such as Bell..

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/the-way-normal-business-is-supposedly-being-carried-in-canada/

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From: Bentley_Chris-MPP-CO

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:01 AM

Cc: attorneygeneral@ontario.ca

Subject: RE: about the Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently..

Good morning: Thank you for taking the time to contact Chris Bentley’s Constituency Office.  I will bring your email to Mr. Bentley’s attention. Since your concerns are a matter for the Attorney General.  I have taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the Ministry of the Attorney General to be responded to.  If you would like to follow up with Mr. Bentley’s Toronto office directly please do not hesitate to contact (416) 326-2220 or 1-800-518-7901 attorneygeneral@ontario.ca.

Thank you again,

Ashley Conyngham Constituency Assistant Chris Bentley, MPP London West 8-11 Base Line Road East London, Ontario N6C 5Z8 Tel: (519) 657-3120 Fax: (519) 657-0368 Mobile: (519) 281-2153

 

do see also

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/thedeezone-175228/

  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/trackback/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/   http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/

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