Real actions speak louder than mere words

 
  
When 95 percent of Christians do not have 5 minutes a day quite time with the Bible.. they are all bad sinners.. all of them

 

By their own fruits you tell what they are like still..
 
(Mark 10:19 KJV)  Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother…
(includes do not divorce)
 
The too often misconception publicized by fundaments on the net too now is that a Prophet only foretells the future, and everything a false prophet does is false, and that he is not a God gifted person.. and this itself is false, not true. How ironical.  Balaam was firstly a genuine Prophet of God, he communicated with , talked with God, but he did not always obey, or  listen to him, for he next still did his own thing,  like most of us today too,  and that is what made him a false prophet, and so simply too are the many persons false Christians now too who follow his bad behavior, example, and rebel like the devil   now as well. God is still really  always displeased with all  such negative motivational behaviors, acts of self centered persons, not Christ centered, not Holy spirit obedient.. as the Bible clearly, undeniably indicates now many times.
 

 

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/let-us-all-stop-electing-liars-or-the-alcoholics/

 

Real actions speak louder than mere words in any  religion..  
 
 
 
There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any of the  the Pentecostal Christians for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net.
  
 
Re:  Pentecostal Christian Hypocrites  From its inception the Pentecostal  movement has been marred deeply by moral scandals, as we have documented in  our new illustrated 317-page book The Pentecostal-Charismatic Movements: Its  History and Its Error. If the movement had the fullness of the Holy Spirit  unction and power that it claims, we would not see such an exhibition of the  flesh, but in fact moral scandals have  continued to plague it in recent  history. http://exposevisionamerica.blogspot.com/2006/11/pentecostal-christian-hypocrites.html   
                   
Luke 11:35 Be careful, therefore, that the light that is in you is not darkness.  Luke 11:39   Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside you yourselves are full of greed {and} robbery {and} extortion and malice {and} wickedness.Luke 11:42 But woe to you, Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every [little] herb, but disregard {and} neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone.  43 Woe to you, Pharisees! For you love the best seats in the synagogues and [you love] to be greeted {and} bowed down to in the [public] marketplaces. 44 Woe to you! For you are like graves which are not marked {or} seen, and men walk over them without being aware of it [and are ceremonially defiled].
   
Luke 11:46 But He said, Woe to you, the lawyers, (experts in the Mosaic Law)! also! For you load men with oppressive burdens hard to bear, and you do not personally [even gently] touch the burdens with one of your fingers. Luke 11:49 For this reason also the wisdom of God said, I will send them prophets and apostles, [some] of whom they will put to death and persecute, 50 So that the blood of all the prophets shed from the foundation of the world may be charged against {and} required of this age {and} generation, 51 From the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was slain between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, it shall be charged against {and} required of this age {and} generation. 52 Woe to you, lawyers (experts in the Mosaic Law)! For you have taken away the key to knowledge; you did not go in yourselves, and you hindered {and} prevented those who were entering.
  
 
Surely now there are, have been  much more false Teachers, false prophets, false pastors,  disobedient Christians in all of the Historical, or present Evangelical, Christian, Protestant or Catholic  churches, so then why pick on just these few now? And do tell me..  Let’s be fair and mention them all in all of the denominations now too.. or none at all…  it is the mere bullies, bashers, cowards too  who have a partial approach, soley bashing  or promoting false hatred against the Pentecostals now mainly too, and this still  is a further sign of their immoral approach. What about the bad too many evangelicals, Baptists, Alliance, Anglican, Reformed, Brethren, Mennonites, Lutheran pastors, persons even?   Well?
 
 
Clearly you have your own false agendas, and  I am sorry to see that you  still falsely produce a one sided view of Christianity and Pentecostals,  when in reality  70 percent of all evangelical North American pastors,  including non Pentecostal pastors have admitted to committing adultery. counseling divorce, are non spirit filled rather and so are 70 percent of the professing church members and attendees now too . 30 percent of evangelicals even practice divorce, related adultery as well. One needs to  honestly deal with all of  this fairly, equally now too..  Adultery is God’s punishment for those whom he is upset  at– the Bible..
 
 
UNDER WHATEVER GUISE ,  EXCUSE, FALSE JUSTIFICATIONS NOW TOO, THE WAY MANY FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICAL AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS  TRY TO MAKE FUN AT OTHER CHRISTIANS ON THE NET, IN CHURCHES TOO  IS SICKENING, A VERY POOR THEOLOGY AND IS SADLY NOW ALSO TYPICAL OF THE MUCH TOO OFTEN FALSE BULLYING, BASHING OF THE OTHERS, OF THE CATHOLICS, THE PENTECOSTALS  TOO!
 
 
 It clearly makes me know that Satan himself is behind most of it still too and is ALL typical the acts of ungodly persons themselves now..
 

If your brother sins against you go to your brother alone. But firstly in prayer to God, all done in  in love, in Meekness, humbleness, and NOT RATHER YOU trying to increase your internet rating, readership by professing Christians now making sinful sensationalized hatred postings which itself is still hypocritical.. Especially when not all the supposedly objectionable replies to the sites now are even allowed to be posted as well

do see also
 

 

I admit I have also  been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked also now too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are well, the Salvation Army as well as the other professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too and why. As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many past personal encounters experiences Canada wide too that I had , but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby, Jesus,  with the dirty wash water. Rather I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead.. 1/12 only   did and what about the rest…
 

You know the commandments

You know the commandments and “the Doctrine of Balaam”
 
When 95 percent of Christians do not have 5 minutes a day quite time with the Bible.. they are all bad sinners.. all of them
 

 The too often misconception publicized by fundaments on the net too now is that a Prophet only foretells the future, and everything a false prophet does is false, and that he is not a God gifted person.. and this itself is false, not true. How ironical.  Balaam was firstly a genuine Prophet of God, he communicated with , talked with God, but he did not always obey, or  listen to him, for he did his own thing,  like most of us today too,  and that is what made him a false prophet, and so simply too are the many persons false Christians now too who follow his bad behavior, example, and rebel like  the devil now as well. God is still really  always displeased with all  such negative motivational behaviors, acts of self centered persons, not Christ centered, not Holy spirit obedient.. as the Bible clearly, undeniably indicates now many times.

By their own fruits you tell what they are like still..
No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
 
 
(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  

 
(Mark 10:19 KJV)  Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother…

(includes do not divorce)
 
 

  

 

(Mat 19:17 KJV)  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.       

(Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
   
 (Rom 13:10 KJV)  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
(Mark 12:29 KJV)  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:  (Heb 13:8 KJV)  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
 
(1 Cor 6:15 KJV)  Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.16   What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

(Mat 15:9 KJV)  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

 (Col 2:22 KJV)  Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

(1 Cor 14:37 KJV)  If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
 
(Rev 14:12 KJV)  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 
Todd Bentley you too do  still need to review what the Bible says about idolatry, fornication, drunkenness, and  the sin of Balaam too. The Doctrine of Balaam: A Warning to the Church, The false prophet who  had a genuine prophetic gift but his basic personal motivations in using them were, are still false, immoral. He used them not to honor, obey God but to falsely try to please himself, to get the earthly rewards.
 
When we toy around with the word of God, God’s undeniable, unchanging laws, commandments,  and work on falsely re-inventing new  definitions for Biblical words and terms, and falsely even apply our own definitions to them, we are headed for our own personal ruin, as well as for the ruin of those who follow us. Thus it is imperative that we get back to the God and the Scriptures!

All readers are encouraged  however, to read the Scriptures always still  for himself, and thus  possibly cease hearing the teaching that causes one to go astray (Prov 19:27 KJV)  Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge.

But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication… 16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. (Revelation 2:14,16)
 
  Note chiefly the rebels now  that deliberately, wrongfully walk after the flesh, in the lust of personal uncleanness, and also do for false earthly rewards, pleasures they  consciously, deliberately despise godly instructions, God’s revealed commandments, following after law and order. They enjoy, delight to walk in sins.   
  
(1 Sam 15:23 KJV)  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. 24 And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice. 25  Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD. 26 And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, and the LORD hath rejected thee from being king over Israel.
 
   Now  we see that some people today, that we are “holding on strongly” to the Doctrine of Balaam, doing their own thing, falsely following the lust of their own  flesh and  this doctrine next  has resulted next in idolatry and fornication among even once His people. The worship of false idols, false values, and falsely lead one to next commit adultery, fornication, sex outside of marriage.. and the only remedy for  having held to the doctrine of Balaam: is  to now personally repent of it, and and to change one’s direction. Or Else pay the serious price of these sins!!! Including public exposure.

We NOW ALL have all been walking in our own ways. Those who still do choose to be among “GOD’S People” must choose, however, to walk in His way. OTHERWISE He will fight against (the unrepentant among us) with the “Sword” of His mouth.

The Doctrine of Balaam: What it Is Again, the Reader is encouraged to read the Scriptures for himself, in order to see exactly what Balaam did, and why God himself  became angry with him Numbers 22-25
(Num 31:16 KJV)  Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

(2 Pet 2:15 KJV)  Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

(Jude 1:11 KJV)  Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

(Rev 2:14 KJV)  But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

(Rev 2:15 KJV)  So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

(Rev 2:16 KJV)  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

We are reminded in Scripture that this “Error of Balaam” (what he actually did) can lead to the “Way of Balaam” (walking in the same way as Balaam, and not repenting).

We also see in Scripture a progression. The “Way of Balaam” results in the “Counsel of Balaam,” also called the “Doctrine of Balaam.” The counsel or “Doctrine” of Balaam then results in a plague touching the entire congregation ((Num 31:16 KJV)  Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.).

We may summarise from Scripture that the “Doctrine of Balaam” is simply any false counsel or false  teaching given by Leadership, that results also in the same in the “Error of Balaam” in the lives of their followers The false prosperity preachers are good examples of this now too. (2 Pet 2:1 KJV)  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

(2 Pet 2:2 KJV)  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5   And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6   And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7  And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8   (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9  The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10   But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11   Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12   But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13   And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14  Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

(Jude 1:4 KJV)  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

(Jude 1:11 KJV)  Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

The sin, the “Error of Balaam” — that almost got him killed? Let’s summarize what we see in the Scriptures.

First, because Balaam disregarded God s “earlier” command to him (”Do not go with them”), but went anyway, So next God himself  sought to kill Balaam (Num 22:12, 22). because eof his own false motivations Balaam had falsely, too conveniently  assumed God’s “later” word to him had “nullified” God’s earlier command not to go.

Next, we see that Balaam had even disobeyed the “later” word, when he left the next morning without meeting the terms of God’s condition (”if the men come to call you”) (Num 22:20,21).

Balaam thus held to a “twisted” version of God’s later command. Thus we see that Balaam disobeyed the later word, and also rejected God’s  “earlier” word. The result was that God now sought to kill Balaam with a “sword.”

To summarize, we might say that what Balaam did was to simply reject the “Earlier” clear Word of God , with the hope that the “Later” Word of God  would be more favorable to his false purposes, and more agreeable to his false motive. His motive was greed, so to his action was to reject, and deny the earlier clear Word of God, thinking the earlier word had been “nullified.” But it has not been… thou  still shaft not commit idolatry, including the false exaltations of self, others men and women,  nor commit adultery..

The  Scriptures tell us that the Greek word ‘dogma,’ Strong’s <1378> and <1379>, the “Decrees of Men,” were against us, and contrary to us, and so they have been blotted out, and taken out of the way, nailed to the cross, and abolished by the crucifixion of His body. Jesus Christ’s ’s crucifixion thereby removed the very thing that brings division, and separates men — the Commandments of Men, which say “touch not, taste not, handle not.” (Luke 2:1; Acts 16:4; 17:7; Eph 2:15; Col 2:14; Col 2:20-22).

Many so called Christian  leaders are falsely teaching the people today the lie,  living the lie now too, that the “Old Testament” ten commandments have been “nullified” and “done away with,” a notion that is clearly contrary to all of Scripture, contrary to the Word of the Psalms and the Prophets, New testament, contrary to the words of the Apostle Paul, and contrary to Jesus  Himself. We cannot even by God’s supposed Grace indulge in any of  these sins and next hope to get away with them, for we will be punish still for it. God is not mocked what a persons sows, sins  he reaps negative consequences unless he quickly repents of it, turns away from it.. 

(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9  And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.10   As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Therefore multitudes embracing this false motivational  Doctrine of Balaam are walking in disobedience God’s revealed will, His Word. This disobedience marked by their false simply rejection and denial of the basic Word of God unacceptably is part of  the “Error of Balaam.”

So we see that just as Balaam did in his day, the Doctrine of Balaam today holds steadfastly to a “twisted” version of the “supposedly later, revised  ” word of God , as we see often done by false justifications of one sins by the too often even critics of the Bible and of other Christians too mow. The Doctrine of Balaam therefore results in still disobedince disobedience to both God’s still “later” word by Jesus Christ, the Apostles and His “earlier” words in the old testament.

It is still wrong today for anyone to follow after men, self instead of following after God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit

Many thus have re( (John 6:35 KJV)  And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. (John 6:48 KJV)  I am that bread of life. (John 6:57 KJV)  As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.8  This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. (Phil 2:16 KJV)  Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain. (1 John 1:1 KJV)  That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;). Notice it is Jesus Himself who defines and illustrates the  words and terms used in the old testament Scripture too; it is not our place to try to define or to redefine Bible Words and terms  placed the Biblical Truths with “Commandments of Men” which have turned most from the Truth ((Titus 1:14 KJV)  Not giving heed to Jewish fables, ( Zionism) and (false )commandments of men, that turn from the truth.).

  
What are the end results of the “Doctrine of Balaam” today?  Only a few remnants of Truth remain in many of these so called Christian churches these days too, because they have allowed mere  men to re-define Biblical Words, Doctrines, and Practices, replacing them with man’s notions of meaning of the actual Biblical words, substituting  falsely man’s Doctrines, and man’s practices.

 
God’s remedy is that we simply “repent.” This tells us to cease disobedience, and begin obedience to His Word. Let’s now look at the results for those who repent.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. (Revelation 2:17)

To those who do not repent, there is likewise a promise and a consequence.  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Revelation 2:16

God’s “sword” will be against those who do not repent.

(2 Th 2:8 KJV)  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10   And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

(Luke 13:6 KJV)  He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.7  Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?8   And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:9   And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

Repent. 

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. (Revelation 22:14)

For without (outside the City) are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Revelation 22:15)

(2 Cor 11:2 KJV)  For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3  But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Luke 9:48 And told them, Whoever receives {and} accepts {and} welcomes this child in My name {and} for My sake receives {and} accepts {and} welcomes Me; and whoever so receives Me so also receives Him Who sent Me. For he who is least {and} lowliest among you all–he is [the one who is truly] great.

Luke 9:62 Jesus said to him, No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back [to the things behind] is fit for the kingdom of God.

Luke 9:49 John said, Master, we saw a man driving out demons in Your name and we commanded him to stop it, for he does not follow along with us.50 But Jesus told him, Do not forbid [such people]; for whoever is not against you is for you.
 
(Luke 18:1 KJV)  And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint; 2  Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man: 3  And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary. 4  And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man; 5  Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me. 6  And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith. 7  And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? 8  I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? 9  And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
 
(Eph 5:1 KJV)  Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; 2  And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. 3  But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4  Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5  For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7  Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) 10  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
 
(1 Tim 2:1 KJV)  I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

 
 Luke 8:21 But He answered them, My mother and My brothers are those who listen to the Word of God and do it!

As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  (Prov 31:8 KJV)  “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9    Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.  

Do see also Money the root of all evil, and Selling the Gospel.
 
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/money-the-root-of-all-evil/

TOO OFTEN FALSE BASH OF PENTACOSTALS HEALERS

Our actions must be founded on what we know to be true from God’s Word, and that what is being directed us personally to each one of us by the Holy Spirit, and to do that we all still do need to continually in reality live a Holy Sprit filled life. it starts by daily reading the Bible, having a Bible devotional, and sadly even most pastors do not do that too.

Mark 16:17 And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;
Mark 16:18 They will pick up serpents; and [even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well.
Mark 16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after He had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and He sat down at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:20 And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message by the attesting signs {and} miracles that closely accompanied [it]. Amen (so be it).

In contrast I read on the net what the bullies, bashers say about healings, miracles.
http://hiscrivener.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/faith-healers-could-encounter-a-setback-at-the-altar/
http://kimolsen.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/george-banovs-blasphemous-prophecy-at-todd-bentleys-ordination/
It should be clear to most of us, the bad guys do not like my pages still.. it shows them in their true light.. the bad guys, bullies, bashers or what ever?

THE WAY MANY FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICAL AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS TRY TO MAKE FUN AT OTHER CHRISTIANS IS SICKENING, A VERY POOR THEOLOGY AND IS SADLY NOW ALSO TYPICAL OF THE MUCH TOO OFTEN FALSE BASHING OF THE PENTECOSTALS TOO! It clearly makes me think that Satan himself is behind most of it still too.

And what about the Phony wars and phony peace by the professing Christians now too..
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

As to bullies question to me.. ““are you ranting”… my how you still do like to bash, insult people.. you do not know them even well enough to falsely even try to judge them, your approach is quite immature and unspiritual too.. looking for a big fight cause someone had stepped on your sore toes.. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

I certainly hope you do not profess wrongfully to be a Christian to anyone, cause you do not act like it for sure… nor do I hope you abuse all the people like that who make a post here.. a sure way to next lose many people still too. Stay in God’s love and not rather in the flesh.. we may not agree, do have a right to differ, but we still do need to show love to the others. Need more input from me on the subject.. I have it detailed even on 5 internet sites.. ”

It is very clear that the much too many false Critics of the Pentecostals will try to grasp at any straws to falsely bash the Pentecostal and still try to justify their own immoral acts..

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too.
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..

A MAJORITY OF THE CRITICS OF THE LATTER DAY REVIVALS, are too clearly their now too often diverting back wrongfully the topic discussions, and themselves making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks and even their evidently their typical unChristlike bullying Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude, and what else? is not the right approach from anyone and it does continue to reflect poorly on ALL OF THEM STILL too…
THE WAY THEY THEMSELVES DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO. And very revealing what they are firstly like themselves
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/understanding-me-and-others-better/

“I have read in the last month every wordpress site, and many others sites openly bashing, abusing, slandering the Florida revival, Todd, the latter day Pentecostals and yet to date I personally have not read, seen one valid criticism, decent presentation at all.. what a great shocker.. It all seems more like little immature, jealous kids still fighting over which one of them will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven and who will be last.. what a real absurdity. I myself though have opposed Todd Bentley’s associated with some really bad pastors, trying to make money form selling items at the revival.. and his false application for divorce..

Hey Critics, Don’t get desperate but get real… like I have rightfully said I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings of any of the latter rain churches..

I did not say Charismatic supposedly churches.. cause we know those often mean rather the Catholic Pentecostals..

as to what the Bible says is only how you here do interpret it.. not the Holy Spirit.

I have been a Christian for 50 years and a Pentecostal pastor for the last 30 years, and I have attended the latter day churches too and often.. and specifically what about you? not the supposed others..

The Latter Rain movement was rejected by the AOG Pentecostals in 1948 as heretical… and what they are speaking for God now.. dream on.. There are other Pentecostal persons, denominations who support them, approve of them, me included. The AOG has it’s own falsehoods, and problems it needs to look at.. (Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

The Full Gospel Business Men’s fellowship uses a similar latter rain approach for decades now too.
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/

Too many persons are bashing other Pentecostals with clearly a hidden agenda, jealousy, and it is still the wrong thing to do so now too.. they are not even doing it in love or humility Cleary as required by the Bible now too. ”

Even because Evangelical Fundamentalism, dispensationalists, too often also replaces the worship of God , the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ with the sole worship of the Bible, bypassing the works of the Holy Spirit it seems, though most Fundamentalists will deny that. Liberalism, too, replaces the worship of God, and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ with the worship of something else. In the case of Liberalism, however, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of mere human reason , and both groups are not that far apart, for they are are in error.

Fundamentalists worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private re-interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah, they worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).

Fundamentalists and Liberals too need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and of John 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH.

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12941.htm
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, elders, deacons too for they all seem to do the same bad things too.. adultery, alcoholism, gossip, slander, divorce..

And when I see shallow arguments of anyone still limiting today as to what God today can do, even through us, EVEN ABOUT HEALING, it makes me rightfully also think how shallow their Christian faith now really is.. they are still babies in the Lord and need someone to teach them the whole truth, the whole , full gospel too, for my God can do anything, Jesus is the same , yesterday, today and forever.

ON TOP OF THAT I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW SO MANY OF THESE SAME PERSONS PERSONS ALSO FALSELY RISE TO DEFEND SMOKING, WINE, ALCOHOL AS WELL AND WORK FULLY TO DENY IT IS SINFUL.. “Spurgeon was once asked when he would quit smoking cigars. He replied, “When it becomes a problem.” He was then asked, “When will it become a problem?” To which he replied, “When I smoke two at a time.” AND look at all the false justifications for Spurgeon’s sin.. and do see also alcoholism the unacceptable sin

When you talk about what the scriptures says you honestly should also point out that you mean it is how you now interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..

The people who also tell us to use only the Bible often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.

(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

I tend to look at both sides of the issues myself.. for that matter I have now been both non Christian, and Christian, both Baptist and Pentecostal, and both groups still do have major errors, weakness, inadequacies, and they now also have some good points too.. but still there is no such thing as a perfect denomination now as well

But one other thing often is clearly is evident to me visiting, reading the many so called Professing Christians sites mostly all telling us the supposed truth, postings often more with dishonest hidden agendas, poorly researched too, very biased now too.. It also seems to me they are also still are trying to convince themselves as to what is the truth is and no one else, they build up their own false straw arguments, and then do reply to their own arguments. It is generally too often now not an honest presentation, discussion of the topic they have presented. http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/todd-bentley-gets-annointed-by-special-oil-from-africa/
>>Pastors are going there by the droves. I know one personally. He went to Toronto to bring some of “it” back and he’s done the same thing with Lakeland. I think he thinks this will be the answer to filling the seats in his church, “http://Christian theology.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/depart-from-me-i-never-knew-you/

>Did he really tell you that or are you in truth distorting, lying, falsely judging him and many others cause you are a controlling person ?
I see nothing wrong in going there and I am real Christian now too

The nonconformer replied “I never knew you, is not a criticism by Jesus that the healings, miracles done by the person(s) were false.. but a true statement that they really never knew Jesus fully or personally, it seems to apply to you now firstly too. For no pastor, evangelist, healer IS PERFECT TO START OFF..

You are so sensitive to others being supposedly false, cause you clearly are false, now take the beam out of your own eye first.. Someone is wrong here and I don’t think it is that difficult (except perhaps for you) to determine who that is and that is you.. for you do twist Bible verses, slander, falsely quickly bash others to suit your own views..

Clearly Judas was an Apostle, better look at the definition of an Apostle, an Apostle is not an unchristian person.. and he was next replaced in the book of acts by another Apostle. The fact that Jesus knew that Judas would betray him does not mean he was not anointed.. but first better look at the meaning of the word anointed now.. one who evidences the Holy spirit.. with signs and wonders Acts 10:38

If you do not let the Holy spirit lead you as to what a verse actually means you are part of the Blind leading the blind now, forget trying to say the scripture cannot be wrong, rather you are wrong.. “You throw the term free will around as if it does not need to be defined. ” and yet you clearly in desperation rebuttal quoted back a verse that has nothing to do with one’s free will.

“You have contradicted now three times the Word of Jesus,” and what a further false and wrong, judgmental act on your part too, you so easily condemn a person whom you do not know, never met, another real Christian, a real Christian now over 50 years too, and I have been pastoring now for over 3 decades as a Pentecostal pastor too. So get a real life. Really do get Jesus.”

Why is it so many people try too limit the power of God, and they work so hard to try to tell us what God can and cannot do today.. for sure, definitely it is not only cause they are spiritually immature, have a hidden agenda, are promoting themselves, or they are unoriginal parrots who repeat what others have said , but it is often still mainly because Satan for sure is behind all this too.
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/discern-it/
Evangelical fundamental parrots often need to quote someone else cause they do not know the Holy spirit well enough to let him lead them, even the truth about healing. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/64/

Is 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no one else; there is no God besides Me. I will gird {and} arm you, though you have not known Me,

(Jer 32:27 KJV) Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

I undeniably could not help but notice on even the web too how supposedly British religious clergies, scholars, Christians, falsely also do bash American Pentecostal revivals? It is not being done out of jealousy too?

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/it-is-not-good-for-the-man-to-dwell-alone/

I have been on the net for over 2 decades, and I have thousands of readers regularly reading my posts. Hey I too have often said that there are many professing bashers, bullies, liars now even on the Christian internet and they think they alone can make the rules, enforce the rules on others, and that is too bad for them too for they need to grow up.. and to firstly get used to the right of free speech of others, other’s right to be heard and to male their own posts .. I only have about 30 internet sites written often for these bad hypocritical Christians now too so hopefully they too will learn the truth about themselves.. too bad guys do not like me to use my right of free speech.. so what else is new.. they by their bullying, control freak approach clearly show to all what hypocritical Christians they rather are! They are not humble servants of Jesus for sure.

isn’t it great that we all can have the same right to make a post now and the same right to have it read by others now too?

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/fundamental-evangelical-and-supposedly-professing-christian-critics/

Discern It

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

“Is the Holy Spirit the focus of your church? Georgian Banov’s Blasphemous Prophecy at Todd Bentley’s “Ordination.”
 
” In Todd Bentley’s initiation “ordination” ceremony last week one George Banov spoke providing Bentley a ‘prophetic word.’  I must say that initially, at least, he was a welcome relief following the demonic, frenetic, wild head shakin’ thang of Stacey Campbell.  Banov comes in at  6:00 minutes:A quick internet search could not produce much info on Banov; but, he’s obviously of the same heretical Latter Rain ‘stream’ as the others on stage. The reason I wish to call attention to this is the fact that in his ‘word’ Banov uses two Messianic prophetic scriptures and claims God told him these were for Bentley!  Here’s the transcription:  “Todd on behalf of the Eastern European nations and former Communist Countries, we want to tell you that we acknowledge and honor what’s upon you.  And, we give you the keys for Eastern Europe — especially the poor, the rejected, the gypsies. “And The Lord says that because you’ve loved his personal presence there are two anointings that are released on His presence and I just want to release those two anointings on you from the LORD.  By the way, the Lord says ‘you are well pleasing son.’ The Father, Abba, says that to you personally.  The first anointing is the anointing of the pleasure of the LORD.  [emphasis mine] “’Surely He has borne our grief, sickness and weakness and carried our sorrow and the pain and the punishment of us all. He was considered stricken, smitten and afflicted by God; but, He was bruised for our transgressions, He was bruised for our guilt and iniquities and chastisement that brought our peace came upon him and by His stripes we were healed and made whole.’  [Isaiah 53:4-6]  And, yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him and in His presence there is fullness of joy and pleasure for evermore. [This is apparently a paraphrase of more than one scripture with another.] And, God’s releasing his pleasure of what He did to Jesus upon you Todd. “And, the second anointing that he wants to release upon you is in Psalm 45 but it’s also in Hebrews chapter one verse nine.  It says, ‘Because you have loved righteousness and you have delighted in integrity and virtue and uprightness in heart and thought and action and you have hated injustice and iniquity; therefore God, your God has anointed you with the oil of exultant joy and gladness above and beyond your companions.’  We bless you.” Not only does he quote two Messianic scriptures and applies these to Bentley, he even goes so far as to claim that the Lord referred to Todd as a ‘well pleasing son’ thus putting Bentley on par with Jesus! [Matthew 3:17; Mark 1:11; Luke 3:22]  Does this not show this group to be promoting Manifest Sons of God doctrine – part of the heresy of the Latter Rain teachings?  And, no one batted an eyelash on stage or in the audience.   In fact, they clapped and cheered.   I wish to point out that there is only one true ( source of the ) anointing( as opposed to many ??)  – the anointing of the Holy Spirit upon true believers who accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.  24 See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.  26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit — just as it has taught you, remain in him.  [1 John 2:20-27 NIV] To promote that we can attain Christlikeness this side of glory is tantamount to denying Jesus Christ’s exclusive Divinity as the One and only Son of God.  As the Apostle John points out above, this is the spirit of antichrist. submitted by Lee  “
 
Nice to note the reference to the poor too but I undeniably, for sure have received many different anointings in my life for various specific services from the Holy spirit by the laying on of hands now too,
 
“Lee, “in your opinion, Bentley’s fails”? Do you not value others opinions? Do you believe you can be wrong on this? This is what I meant when I referred to a wrong interpretation of scripture.”
 
“How do you handle it when other Christians disagree with you?  Lee “
 
“And, remember, always share humbly that you may be wrong. Your interpretation of the matter may be wrong. You respect their position, even if it’s contrary to your human interpretation of a non-absolute of scripture. Don’t butcher them publicly and them him hurt and attacked. Rather, pray for them, speak well of them, love them and lift them up. Beyond that, it’s not your battle to fight. “
 
And thenonconformer next said.. It is very clear that the much too many false Critics of the Pentecostals will try to grasp at any straws to falsely bash the Pentecostal and still try to justify their immoral acts..

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
   
A MAJORITY OF THE CRITICS OF THE LATTER DAY REVIVALS, are too clearly their often diverting back wrongfully the topic discussions, making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks is even THEIR typical unChristlike bulling Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude, and what else? is not the right approach from anyone and it does continue to reflect poorly on ALL OF THEM STILL too…
 
THE WAY THEY THEMSELVES DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO.
 
And very revealing what they are firstly like themselves
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/understanding-me-and-others-better/
 
 “To the non conformer- Got any examples there or are you just ranting? For the record, I believe in Charismatic gifts and vehemently oppose these latter rain revivals. You’ve simply dismissed any opposition to this heresy as unloving and unkind by using blanket statements like: “I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly…” “and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches…”  “…making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks is even THEIR typical unChristlike bulling Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude…””
 
In reply now thenonconformer said  I have read in the last month every wordpress site, and many others sites openly bashing, abusing, slandering the Florida revival, Todd, the latter day Pentecostals and yet to date I personally have not read, seen one valid criticism, decent presentation at all.. what a great shocker.. It all seems more like little immature, jealous kids still fighting over which one of them will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven and who will be last.. what a real absurdity. Don’t get desperate but get real… like I have rightfully said I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings of any of the latter rain churches..  I did not say Charismatic supposedly churches.. cause we know those often mean rather the Catholic Pentecostals.. as to what the Bible says is only how you here do interpret it.. not the Holy Spirit.  I have been a Christian for 50 years and a Pentecostal pastor for the last 30 years, and I have attended the latter day churches too and often.. and specifically what about you? not the supposed others..  The Latter Rain movement was rejected by the AoG Pentecostals in 1948 as heretical… and they are speaking for God now.. dream on.. There are other pentacostal denominations who support them, approve of them, me included. The full Gospel Business Men’s fellowship uses a similar approach for decades now too. many persons bashing other Pentecostals with clearly a hidden agenda is still the wrong thing to do now too.. they are not doing it in love or humility Cleary as required by the Bible now too.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/ http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST https://postedat.wordpress.com/
 
You ask “are you ranting”… my how you like to bash, insult people.. you do not know to even try to judge them, quite immature and unspiritual too.. looking for a big fight cause someone had stepped on your sore toes.. I certainly hope you do not profess wrongfully to be a Christian to anyone, cause you do not act like it for sure… nor do I hope you abuse all the people like that who make a post here.. a sure way to next lose many people still too. Stay in God’s love and not rather in the flesh.. we may not agree, do have a right to differ, but we still do need to show love to the others. Need more input from me on the subjects.. I have it detailed even on 5 internet sites.. including https://postedat.wordpress.com http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/
 
You say  ” Todd Bentley is a savage wolf in sheep’s clothing and a false apostle, who is being led by a counterfeit “Jesus” and “spirit”” , Bud  “
 
Thenonconformer, “my how you like to bash, insult people..” “…looking for a big fight cause someone had stepped on your sore toes.. I certainly hope you do not profess wrongfully to be a Christian to anyone…” Tell me what is even scriptural right about this one sided, bullying, bashing, lying, a argumentative, ungodly, unchristlike posts clearly not done in love too.. hope you still do not profess to be a Christian, cause you give a really bad image to the real Christians.
 
>>What am I missing out on by not falling into line with the latter rain heresy? Salvation? “The next wave?” Becoming a “manifest Son of God” (i.e. Jesus)? Why should I conform as you have (contrary to your name) to this heretical doctrine?  
and you lie and distort often what I have said still too.. I never asked you to fall in line, I had asked you to act like real Christians, and show real love, not mostly hatred rather..   Like i have said When you talk about what the scriptures says you honestly should also point out that you mean it is how you now interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly.. The people who also tell us to use only the Bible often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible. (Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

I tend to look at both sides of the issues myself.. for that matter I have now been both non Christian, and Christian, both Baptist and Pentecostal, and both groups still do have major errors, weakness, inadequacies, and they now also have some good points too.. but still there is no such thing as a perfect denomination now as well
But one other thing often is clearly is evident to me visiting, reading the many so called Professing Christians sites mostly all telling us the supposed truth, postings often more with dishonest hidden agendas, poorly researched too, very biased now too.. It also seems to me they are also still are trying to convince themselves as to what is the truth is and no one else, they build up their own false straw arguments, and then do reply to their own arguments. It is generally too often now not an honest presentation, discussion of the topic they have presented.
 
Why is it so many people (control freaks)  try too limit the power of God, and they work so hard to try to tell us what God can and cannot do today.. for sure, definitely it is not only cause they are spiritually immature, have a hidden agenda, are promoting themselves, or they are unoriginal parrots who repeat what others have said , but it is often still mainly because Satan for sure is behind all this too.
    
Is 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no one else; there is no God besides Me. I will gird {and} arm you, though you have not known Me,(Jer 32:27 KJV) Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

 

Aside from that fact many do not know, read , they do not understand the scriptures, the Bible in reality but merely mouth what they think or what others have said instead..
 
Latter rain is a term referring to the new outpouring of the Holy Spirit on today’s Pentecostals. The events of Pentecost are known as the former rain.
The idea of latter rain comes from this Old Testament text, which precedes Joel’s prophecy that God will pour out his Spirit on all people:
Be glad, O people of Zion,
rejoice in the LORD your God,
for he has given you
the autumn rains in righteousness.
He sends you abundant showers,
both autumn and spring rains, as before.
Joel 2:23
The early Pentecostals connect their own experience of the Spirit with that of the disciples, and Peter’s quoting of Joel’s prophecy in Acts 2: 16-21 is a further prophecy that God would pour out his Spirit again at a later time.
They tend to state that the pouring out of the Spirit on the day of Pentecost as the early autumn rain, and the second pouring out of the Spirit, that they were experiencing, as the later spring rains; the Latter Rain.
The idea of latter rain is found throughout many denominations of Pentecostalism, but specifically the Latter Rain Movement, founded in 1948, teaches that the second coming of Jesus is due to happen soon and that latter rain is evidence for this.
 
I have read in the last month every wordpress site, and many others sites openly bashing, abusing, slandering the Florida revival, Todd, the latter day Pentecostals and yet to date I personally have not read, seen one valid criticism, decent presentation at all.. what a great shocker.. It all seems more like little immature, jealous kids still fighting over which one of them will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven and who will be last.. what a real absurdity.
 
Don’t get desperate but get real… like I have rightfully said I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings of any of the latter rain churches..
 
I did not say Charismatic supposedly churches.. cause we know those often mean rather the Catholic Pentecostals..
 
as to what the Bible says it is only how you here do interpret it.. not the Holy Spirit.
 
Need more input from me on the subjects.. I have it detailed even on 5 internet sites.. including https://postedat.wordpress.com http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/
 
Some people would say I too have never seen alcohol do one good thing for anyone rather mostly a lot of evil.. . and do look at things associated with alcohol…bars, strip clubs, drunks, DUI’s, addiction and the like. Tell me who your friends are and I can always tell what you are like too. These are not activities a true Christian should participate in. Therefore, it is better to SHUN even an appearance of evil. And yes Christians are commanded that our bodies are not to be mastered by anything…our bodies are the temple of God. We are always to be in self control. not rather selfish oriented. Also, the wine Jesus and the apostle used, wine was likely not fermented in biblical times as it is today, it was rather grape juice, and was unlikely to cause drunkenness as easily. Falsely for too many professing Christians Smoking, Homosexuality is okay, drinking alcohol is okay, using profanity is okay, tax evasion is OK, Cheating, lying, stealing is OK.. Get a real life. Get Jesus It does sounds like many always rejected the truth of the Bible, Jesus and have finally found a denomination that supports their sin. The Gospel according to them. Lucky them? Not at all. They also tend to show the mental sloppiness, dishonesty common to the liberals, bashers of Pentecostals and fundamentalists, not those elf real Christians for sure.
 
A preacher had recently written to me and said to me that we all should get more of the Word into us, meaning the Bible, but what we all do need is more of the Holy Spirit, starting with His fruit of love, for I also now could not help but notice how unkind, proud, arrogant this preacher still was himself.. too many preachers now know the Word but they seem too easily forget to also live it themselves firstly, and I rightfully would rather see a sermon practiced, then merely hear it lip service preached too. Much too easier to preach it to others, harder to live it oneself..
 
(Neh 8:10 KJV) Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the LORD is your strength
 
” I see there is some objection to calling Latter Rain a heresy, as well as Banov’s comments to Bentley. In particular, here is one comment I’d like to address: “It is very clear that the much too many false Critics of the pentecostals will try to grasp at any straws to falsely bash the pentecostal and still try to justify their immoral acts..”

I would like to point out that it was the Assembly of God, a pentecostal denomination, who believes in the practice of all the spiritual gifts, who officially declared that Latter Rain was heretical.”
 
“I doubt your comment above about the AoG declaring Latter Rain a heresy will have much affect. Someone else further up the thread already pointed that out and basically that fact was laughed at as inconsequential.”
 
“Is it not possible that Todd loves righteousness and has delighted in integrity? “
 
“The problem with these comments comes down to arrogance, in all humility when you guys bash “Fuller” that tells me you are coming at this from with far more “pride” than you are compassion. If a brother is in error go to them, have you written Todd Bentley a certified letter? Do you have compassion?”
 
“Lee unfortunately all your responses are based on “your” interpretation of Scripture. Your foundation is not Scripture, but yourself and how you interpret it.
There is no truth to the accusations you are making against Todd Bentley. I pray that your eyes would be opened to all you are missing in the Holy Spirit.

 Am I saying everything Todd Bentley does or has ever done is correct? No, I have not seen everything, what I have seen has been done with integrity, with the power of God, with humility and with a focus on Jesus Christ and Him being worshipped. Also unless you have any experience with healing, miracles, prophecy, resurrections, encounters with God, etc you have no right to make a judgement. You have no experience with which to even judge or speak to others about. Until you are doing the works of Jesus your interpretation of Scripture is worth little. Your Kingdom of God is based your talk, the one in the Bible is based on power. I pray your eyes would be opened to the more that God has for you!”

thenonconformer said.. If you don’t answer questions, whatever. It is cause what I have posted is very clear and undeniable too already and because I am not foolish to play your fighting game, get a real life and act like a real christian.. and here is what I have posted about the OAG
 

The Assemblies of God Pentecostal supporters, members are noted for their opposition to the Florida Lakeland revival, and to the Latter day movement.. and I rightfully as I do dislike their too often abusive unchristian like posts too.. but why the opposition? Jealous? How wordly, ungoldy? It supposedly competes with their own revival?
“I have just returned from Buffalo and am now home in Pensacola. What awesome services on Sunday! Pastor Tommy Reid said to his congregation, “There are moments when God moves in a church and today is one of them!” I am always humbled when the Lord moves. From the first service at 8 am to the last service at 11:30 God moved in all three. The first service, which is mainly seniors, had a wonderful sense of God’s power! As I prayed for the saints of the church, each one fell under the power of God! How humbling! When the second service crowd started to move into the sanctuary they saw their beloved seniors prostrate out on the floor! That’s enough to build anyone’s faith. I had the privilege of praying for probably another two to three hundred people. The second service rolled right into the third service which is primarily a multi cultural service. God was faithful and moved again touching lives at the altar! http://www.brownsville-revival.org/
 
and like many other Pentecostals, Alliance, Baptist, Evangelical Churches they falsely do not include helping poor people in their own churches as an essential Christian doctrine now too? why?
 
(Rom 15:26 KJV) For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. (2 Cor 9:9 KJV) (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. (James 2:5 KJV) Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?  (James 2:6 KJV) But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
 
“I just quickly read your most recent post; and, I’m not sure why you insist on bringing in things totally unrelated to the post. You have no idea if anyone who posts here does or does not give to the poor in our own churches. I don’t even wish to field a response to it. Please refrain from these excursions in the future or your entire post will be deleted.”
 
 thenonconformer replied  Actually I said their church doctrines do not include  giving to the poor and why was that ? you yourself had referred to the poor people in your starting address..
 
thenonconformer replied  I HAVE RIGHTFULLY BECOME SUSPICIOUS OF WHAT I HEAR, READ, AND TEST IT RIGHTFULLY TOO.. and I do even look for their too often, false hidden agendas as well.. Now some persons not help but notice that bashing of the mostly white man’s Latter Day Pentecostal revival, denomination by the Mostly Black AOG Pentecostal movement? is this what it is really all about now here too? But also I have never said that the Latter Day Pentecostal revival leaders were saints, in fact I have often said the opposite and for specific valid reasons. But I see no valid Proof still that Todd Bentley is totally wrong..
 
I was in a super great Church once, ( a latter day denomination- The Calgary Christian Centre) even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counseling divorce, gossiping, slandering, lying, and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counseling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.
 
But eventually one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

Micah 3:6 KJV) Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.  

I had good reasons supposedly for not Pastoring once, one of which was there now supposedly were plenty of other good Pastors, much better Pastors than me around.. and both arguments were lies as God himself next showed me firsthand when I interviewed about 45 evangelical pastors.. even about their marital counselling practises… which is almost none! This is also really surprising when about 70 percent of all people even in the churches tend to have major marital problems sooner or later.. Pretender, liar and that is so typical of evangelical pastors in Canada, elders, and pastors of the false Christian Missionary Alliance church now too. I wrote about this false church before too. No wonder most of the evangelical pastors as well do commit adultery, or steal, commit tax evasions, gossip, slander, abuse others and falsely counsel divorce now too. In reality 70 percent of all of the the pastors are still really bad, still doing a real bad job.. for firstly they tend not to use the Bible at all in their own personal counseling practices but rather they tend to do use an immoral, humanistic, psychological approach, or they simple say get divorced and wrongfully too. Their actual daily usage of the Bible, not books really can show you how good or bad pastors they still are, and never mind what useless Bible college or commentary also that they graduated from still.

 
Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the Pastors, even though this may be an honest expectation, for our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him.
 
Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man, or women, and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders and you certainly will next not be disappointed.
Because of my poor health I have had to retire from a physicaly active Ministry and next many people could not understand how I could be by myself alone, for such long periods of time, and for me it is very easy for I have Jesus to go directly to talk with, I do prefer his company above all others rightfully too. Learn to talk to Him directly about your concerns, not firstly the Pastors!!
 
(Luke 9:36 KJV) And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. (John 8:9 KJV) And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst
 
Secondly the majority of these pastors they do not provide at all any real counselling help to their own flock in need even in their own churches, and especially not related to marital, employment problems also even in Evangelical, Pentecostal churches. This approach of their is not really pastoring.. this is stealing money from the sheep! Sadly most pastors seem to want to only to preach, to talk big and to be praised for it, to be recognized, and admired by the others, for they tend to have a false, big ego that they want filled, but they still wrongfully not want to do also the real work, the dirty work at the sheep’s level.. Yes these same pastoral hypocrites also do falsely tend to lie, slander others , gossip and also to delegate blame on one of the spouses even in a martial problem situation, even with invalid still reasons, basically for them not to personally get involved. The pastor would say something like the husband or the wife was at fault.. so the pastor is still talking only about the negative symptoms of a real marital problem, and what is he real or false solution rather.. pass the buck wrongfully still to the others? Unacceptable and I would rightfully not give any of my money at all to this type of Pastor or his Church!
 
Pastoral marriage counselling it is also still mandatory for all Pastors, all of them too, it is mandatory still that they do also help each and every sheep in their flock, and do home visits as well.. and these two also are not optional.. but sadly majority of Pastors they really still do not have love for the sheep.. and doing the dirtier jobs they wrongfully run away for it.. and God himself told me that this was all was immorally acts on the part of both of these pastors.. I never run away from any hard counselling.. for I got God to help me.. Do thus tell the pastor that up to 70 percent of the people have marriage problems, it is always the biggest pastoral need too.. and if he does not do this work than he is really not a real pastor.. just another hireling, or a wolf in sheep clothing.. You do clearly also have my permission to send these remarks to them as well! I have already personally fired about 25 pastors in my life time.. and I do not hesitate to publicly expose them, rebuke them rightfully remove them from office still.. any of the bad ones..
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love. (Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. (Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; (1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. (2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. (Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; (Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee. (Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Better to be rebuked by me than God next directly, for God then will not be so forgiving.. (Psa 18:39 KJV) For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me 40 Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me. 41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not. 42 Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets. (Psa 18:44 KJV) As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers shall submit themselves unto me. 45 The strangers shall fade away, and be afraid out of their close places. (Psa 18:46 KJV) The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted. 47 It is God that avengeth me, and subdueth the people under me. 48 He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man. (Psa 18:49 KJV) Therefore will I give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and sing praises unto thy name. 50 Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and showeth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore.
 
The trouble with anyone lying is that soon one will likely end up believing in one’s own lies and one tends to live out the lies next, to act upon their false delusions.This applies to people who lie to the courts, to politicians who lie to the citizens as well.. to Pastors who lie to their congregations.. Now I have personally seen this happen many times .. For example a pastor was personally asked to repent of his own immorality. His own family asked him if the charges were true. The pastor replied you cannot believe anything the persons says he is crazy.. Soon the pastor’s family started to worry about this supposedly crazy person. To keep up the pretense the pastor even bought next a bullet proof car for protection for himself. This increased the stress upon his own family.. They lived out the pastor’s lie.. This was a punishment for the lies now as well. This same truth applies to ANYONE, Minister, lawyers, spouses who lie to us or the courts too. In the end the pastor still lost his church anyway, because he next was still exposed for his wrong doings, cause you cannot lie to everyone.. some people saw the truth.. and did something good about it too.. they let the Pastor go.
 
(James 4:17 KJV) Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. 

thenonconformer  also said My same posts are posted on many sites too.. deleting them will do nothing.. but show to all how free speech is falsely denied by false excuses again

http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST But I mostly still do what the Lord tells me, not what others say I should do..
 
 

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

 

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Our concern should not be just as to how the world sees us but we must be more serioulsy cocnerend as to how God realy sees us..  (Heb 10:31 KJV)  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/

When anyone talks about what the scriptures says they  honestly should also point out that they mean it is how they  now interpret what the scripture says.. cause too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..
 
The people who also tell us to use only the Bible often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.
 
(Eph 4:18 KJV)  Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

 Aside from that fact many do not know, read , they do not understand the scriptures, the Bible in reality but merely mouth what they think or what others have said instead..

If you read all my popular posts, writings, sites  I deal also with the subject of bad Christians, bad Pastors too, bad Pentecostal, bad evangelicals too, really bad churches too… I even deal with the Toronto Airport Fellowship church, and the Christian Missionary Alliance Church 

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/  

https://postedat.wordpress.com/

 http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST

 http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome  

http://pbulow.tripod.com/

 For the record ,the  Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians even on the net, for they seem to do the same things too. They even seem to lie, bully, bash, twist the truth, oppress, slander, distort in their posting replies, and behave clearly unloving, unchristlike.. falsely justify their sinning now too.  Most anti Florida revival sites, posters are abusive abusers even if they lie and say they now are Christains too.

 
There has been a great deal of garbage posted all over the internet about the supposed lying signs and wonders going on in the Florida Outpouring in Lakeland, Florida. Todd Bentley has been blasted by numerous bloggers for channeling demonic power and that is how these seemingly miraculous things are happening. According to these bloggers, satan has all kinds of power, especially in false miracles and healing. Does he? Does the Bible say that he does?  Actually, the Bible does not. Healing is an activity that the Lord has reserved for Himself. If there are counterfeits, there must be also a genuine existing.. spirit led Christians can tell the difference by the Holy Spirit. as per yoo often distorted, false  unsubstantiated assumptions, it is so obvious that many still  are desperately grasping at straws intheir personal bashing of this revival, for what winning at all costs is so important to then that they forget decency, honesty, respect? Do always firstly practice, try the Holy Bible instead. There has been a great deal unacceptable garbage opposing this Florida revival on the net, and for me it shows more truth about the spiritual nature of the critics, posters too… unflattering to the critic , and unchristian critics..

 One would even think the professing Christians sites are a place for a gathering of snakes, jokers, not real professing, decent, honest living Christians by the type of posts many write now on various topics even. If you profess to be a Christian time you acted like it still too..  I too would rightfully see a sermon from even them all than hypocritically only hear it preached again from these critics.. it is time they firstly had applied the Bible for all to see. Sow, show your love to others anywhere, even here.. mandatory.  I still cannot help but notice that a certain segment of every society, bad self-righteous  persons, in churches too, on th enet too, bad persons who to compensate for their poor self image, poor self worth, or even an over inflated ego, self worth they in a sinful pride too they do  try to put others under their sinful bondage, even to still wrongfully deny their human rights and their equal rights of free speech,  to equally express themselves, to be equally heard too.  I have always wondered besides Satan himself as to the original source of this perverse, degenerated  human domination attitude, unacceptable abuse, approach. This enslavement attempt occurs too often now too now even not just in the  despotic churches, despotic governments, despotic police, in the civil and public services, but it is carried out even by so  so called professionals in corporations, schools, universities too where these control freaks, bullies, slave drivers  do want to dominate falsely their wills and desires upon others. But I know clearly that the solution to this approach is public exposure of the abusers in a very loud voice so everyone can hear about it too. For God himself still does not accept these abuses for sure. 
  
(Rom 8:15 KJV)  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

I was trying to understand what was so objectionable, bad at the Florida revival that had some persons clearly foaming at the mouth and I looked at many of the critics rather poor posts and yet I could not understand what was so wrong, or basically agree with any of them.. their often emotionally charged bashes, criticisms, posts  are varied, non standard,  some are generally against any kind of healing, some are against any kind of manifestations of the Holy Spirit, some are against the people who attend the services, some are denominational differences, disputes etc 
 
Now me thenonconformer  had next said” THE WAY YOU TRY TO MAKE FUN AT OTHER CHRISTIANS IS SICKENING, POOR THEOLOGY AND IS SADLY TYPICAL OF FUNDAMENTAL BASHING OF PENTECOSTALS.
 

Evangelical Fundamentalism tends to replace the worship of God , the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ with the sole worship of the Bible, bypassing the works of the Holy Spirit it seems, though most Fundamentalists will deny that. Liberalism, too, replaces the worship of God, and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ with the worship of something else. In the case of Liberalism, however, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of mere human reason , and both groups are not that far apart, for they are are in error.

Fundamentalists tend to worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah, they worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).

 Fundamentalists and Liberals too need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and of John 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH. http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12941.htm

TOO MANY Evangelical fundamental parrots often need to quote someone else cause they do not know the Holy spIrit well enough to let him lead them, even the truth about healing. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF.   http://pbulow.tripod.com http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html  
 
Latter rain is a term referring to the subsequent outpouring of the Holy Spirit on many of today’s Pentecostals. The Acts New testament events of Pentecost are known as the former rain. The idea of latter rain comes from this Old Testament text, which precedes Joel’s prophecy that God will pour out his Spirit on all people:

Be glad, O people of Zion,
rejoice in the LORD your God,
for he has given you
the autumn rains in righteousness.
He sends you abundant showers,
both autumn and spring rains, as before.
Joel 2:23
The early Pentecostals connect their own experience of the Spirit with that of the disciples, and Peter’s quoting of Joel’s prophecy in Acts 2: 16-21 is a further prophecy that God would pour out his Spirit again at a later time.
 
They tend to state that  the pouring out of the Spirit on the day of Pentecost as the early autumn rain, and the second pouring out of the Spirit, that they were experiencing, as the later spring rains; the Latter Rain.
 
The idea of latter rain is found throughout many denominations of Pentecostalism, but specifically the Latter Rain Movement, founded in 1948, teaches that the second coming of Jesus is due to happen soon and that latter rain is evidence for this
 
I tend to look at both sides of the issues myself.. for that matter I have now been both non Christian, and Christian, both  Baptist  and Pentecostal, and both groups still do have major errors, weakness, inadequacies, and they now also have some  good points  too.. but still there is no such thing as a perfect denomination now as well
 
But one other thing often is clearly is evident to me visiting, reading the many so called Professing Christians sites mostly all telling us the supposed truth, postings often more with dishonest hidden agendas, poorly researched too, and very biased now too.. It also seems to me they are also still  are trying to convince themselves  as to what is the truth is and no one else, they build up their own false straw arguments, and then do  reply to their  own arguments. It is generally too often now not an honest presentation, discussion of the topic they have presented.
 
thus when I see there the often shallow arguments  of anyone still limiting today as to what God can do, even through us,  it makes me rightfully also think how shallow their Christian faith now really is.. they are still babies in the Lord and need someone to teach them the whole truth, the whole , full gospel too, for my God can do anything, Jesus is the same , yesterday, today and forever.
 
 
According to your faith it shall be for you as well, and you might like the foolish virgins be left behind.. ’
 

Tell me what is even scriptural right about the one sided, bullying, bashing, lying, argumentative, ungodly, unchristlike posts clearly not done in love too.. hope you still do not profess to be a Christian, cause you give a really bad image to the real Christians.

>>What am I missing out on by not falling into line with the latter rain heresy? Salvation? “The next wave?” Becoming a “manifest Son of God” (i.e. Jesus)? Why should I conform as you have (contrary to your name) to this heretical doctrine? you lie and distort often what I have said still too.. I never asked you to fall in line, I had asked you to act like real Christians, and show real love, not mostly hatred rather..  ”

 “I never knew you, is not a criticism by Jesus that the healings, miracles done by the person(s) were false.. but a true statement that they really never knew Jesus fully or personally, it seems to apply to you now firstly too. You are so sensitive to others being supposedly false, cause you clearly are false, now take the beam out of your own eye first.. Someone is wrong here and I don’t think it is that difficult (except perhaps for you) to determine who that is and that is you.. for you do twist Bible verses, slander, falsely quickly bash others to suit your own views.. Clearly Judas was an Apostle, better look at the definition of an Apostle, an Apostle is not an unchristian person.. and he was next replaced in the book of acts by another Apostle. The fact that Jesus knew that Judas would betray him does not mean he was not anointed.. but first better look at the meaning of the word anointed now.. one who evidences the Holy spirit.. with signs and wonders Acts 10:38 If you do not let the Holy spirit lead you as to what a verse actually means you are part of the Blind leading the blind now, forget trying to say the scripture cannot be wrong, rather you are wrong.. “You throw the term free will around as if it does not need to be defined. ” and yet you clearly in desperation rebuttal quoted back a verse that has nothing to do with one’s free will.

>>“You have contradicted now three times the Word of Jesus,” and what a further false and wrong, judgmental act on your part too, you so easily condemn a person whom you do not know, never met, another real Christian, a real christian now over 50 years too, and I have been pastoring now for over 3 decades as a Pentecostal pastor too. get a real life. Really do get Jesus.”

Why is it so many people try too limit the power of God, and they work so hard to try to tell us what God can and cannot do today.. for sure,  definitely it is not only cause they are spiritually immature, have a hidden agenda, are promoting themselves,  or they are unoriginal parrots who repeat what others have said , but it is often still mainly because Satan for sure is behind all this too.

Is 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no one else; there is no God besides Me. I will gird {and} arm you, though you have not known Me,
  
(Jer 32:27 KJV)  Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

“I have read in the last month every wordpress site, and many others sites openly bashing, abusing, slandering the Florida revival, Todd, the latter day Pentecostals and yet to date I personally have not read, seen one valid criticism, decent presentation at all.. what a great shocker.. It all seems more like little immature, jealous kids still fighting over which one of them will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven and who will be last.. what a real absurdity. many persons bashing other Pentecostals with clearly a hidden agenda is still the wrong thing to do now too.. they are not doing it in love or humility Cleary as required by the Bible now too. ”

“are you ranting”… my how you like to bash, insult people.. you do not know to even try to judge them, quite immature and unspiritual too.. looking for a big fight cause someone had stepped on your sore toes.. I certainly hope you do not profess wrongfully to be a Christian to anyone, cause you do not act like it for sure… nor do I hope you abuse all the people like that who make a post here.. a sure way to next lose many people still too. Stay in God’s love and not rather in the flesh.. we may not agree, do have a right to differ, but we still do need to show love to the others.

Don’t get desperate but get real… like I have rightfully said I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings of any of the latter rain churches..  I did not say Charismatic supposedly churches.. cause we know those often mean rather the Catholic Pentecostals..

as to what the Bible says is only how you here do interpret it.. not the Holy Spirit.  I have been a Christian for 50 years and a Pentecostal pastor for the last 30 years, and I have attended the latter day churches too and often.. and specifically what about you? not the supposed others..

>> “The Latter Rain movement was rejected by the AoG Pentecostals in 1948 as heretical”… and they are speaking for God now.. dream on.. There are other Pentecostal denominations who support them, approve of them, me included. The full Gospel Business Men’s fellowship uses a similar approach for decades now too.

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A preacher had recently written to me and said to me that we all should get more of the Word into us, meaning the Bible, but what we all do   need is more of the Holy Spirit, starting with His fruit of love, for I also now could not help but notice how unkind, proud, arrogant this preacher still was himself.. too many preachers now  know the Word but they seem too easily forget to also live it themselves firstly, and I rightfully would rather see a sermon practiced, then merely hear it lip service preached too. Much too easier to preach it to others, harder to live it onself..

“Spurgeon was once asked when he would quit smoking cigars. He replied, “When it becomes a problem.” He was then asked, “When will it become a problem?” To which he replied, “When I smoke two at a time.” wow, look at all the false justifications for Spurgeon’s sin.. I often consider their spiritual maturity. I doubt that smoking cigars, as Charles Spurgeon did, had the negative stigma that it does today. Is there any room for putting “drinking Coca-Cola” on your list? :)” ….  PS: Hey I must admit, I don’t know a lot about Spurgeon, although I understand he Is a type of hero for most evangelicals …I do think he was a godly man, aside form this apparent bad habit.  Thenonconformer says and I still think there is no such thing as a little bit pregnant.. especially for a preacher.

Some people would say I too have never seen alcohol do one good thing for anyone rather mostly a lot of evil.. . and do look at things associated with alcohol…bars, strip clubs, drunks, DUI’s, addiction and the like. Tell me who your friends are and I can always tell what you are like too. These are not activities a true Christian should participate in. Therefore, it is better to SHUN even an appearance of evil. And yes Christians are commanded that our bodies are not to be mastered by anything…our bodies are the temple of God. We are always to be in self control.  not rather selfish oriented. Also, the wine Jesus and the apostle used, wine was likely not fermented in biblical times as it is today, it was rather grape juice,  and was unlikely to cause drunkenness as easily. Falsely for too many  professing Christians Smoking, Homosexuality is okay, drinking alcohol is okay, using profanity is okay, tax evasion is OK, Cheating, lying, stealing is OK.. Get a real life. Get Jesus  It does sounds like many  always rejected the truth  of the Bible, Jesus and have finally found a denomination that supports their sin. The Gospel according to them. Lucky them? Not at all. They also tend to show the  mental sloppiness, dishonesty  common to the liberals,  bashers of Pentecostals and fundamentalists, not those   real Christians for sure.

(Neh 8:10 KJV)  “Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the LORD is your strength.” Not the wine, smoking, drugs, alcohol..

 
 “All the great outpourings of the past have had their outstanding truths.
 
Luther’s truth was Justification by Faith. Wesley’s was Sanctification. The Baptists taught the premillenial [sic] coming of Christ. The Missionary Alliance taught Divine Healing. The Pentecostal outpouring has restored the Baptism of the Holy Ghost to its rightful place. The next great outpouring is going to be marked by all these other truths plus such a demonstration of the nine gifts of the Spirit as the world, not even the Apostolic world, has ever witnessed before. This revival will be short and will be the last before the Rapture of the Church.”
  
And yet in many of these same groups the followers, and leaders still next became corrupt.. the same groups are too often fake today rather. The Christian Missionary Alliance now included.
 
EVEN IF A GROUP HOLDS TO SOME VALID TRUTHS SUCH AS
– Jesus Christ is the sole Savior, Lord of your life.
– The concept of the restoration of the Tabernacle of David. Praise & Worship emphasized as a means to usher (1) in God’s presence and (2) to usher God’s people into His presence. Singing in the spirit congregationally, I.e. in other tongues. The “song of the Lord” a prophetic song or one in other tongues but interpreted
– The belief that God has now restored all the ministry gifts back to the Church, especially the office of the prophet and apostle {this is where today’s prophetic/apostolic move comes from}.
– The practice of laying on of hands to be filled with the Holy Spirit (and the evidence of speaking in other tongues).
– The practice of laying on of hands to impart spiritual gifts
– The belief Christians can be demonized and need to be delivered through the laying on of hands.
– Divine healing is obtained by faith and also is imparted via the laying on of hands
– Emphasis on spiritual warfare
– Emphasis on personal and directive prophecy
– Anointed Women have a full and equal ministry role in the Church, I.e. women pastors, prophetesses, elders, etc.
– The Rapture, the second coming of Christ is inevitable, soon
– Emphasis on Missions, evangelism, the Bible, a Pastor..
 
 The same group can still be false, led by false men and not by the Holy Spirit.(John 10:1 KJV)  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.2  But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3  To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4  And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5  And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
 
(Mat 10:17 KJV)  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18  And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19  But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20  For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 21  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 23  But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
 
(Mat 7:15 KJV)  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 
 (Rom 10:3 KJV)  For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  
 
and the  too often whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, any Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents. I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more. Have you also not noticed how rarely both Catholics, and evangelicals, do refer specifically to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting! 
 
 (2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
  
AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY TO INSULT, ABUSE, LIE ABOUT THE OTHER CHRISTIANS?
 

God can speak to us today in many ways? Are you listening?

Too many false persons try to define God solely based on their own small world  limited personal experiences, knowledge, and if it now especially did not happen to them it cannot happen to anyone else, it is not a true, valid experience… This is particularly true when we talk about spiritual things, spiritual growth, things like Prayer, Healing, Spiritual gifts, the Bible, Hearing God Speak, Church Operations, the Holy Spirit. Dream on!!  Many also tend to  too often have eyes on men and what they say theses days too and not on God, and what he says
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“You are not to go to the left or to the right unless you hear a voice ( of the Holy Spirt) saying this is the way walk there in”.. Many of us have not learned as to how to hear this voice
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God leads us in many ways, through his word, through people, but God will confirm his will for us still too. I have had often had to learn spiritual truths the hard way, by trying to do my own thing and failing at it, and Jesus reminding me that I could do nothing without him. Now I pray before I do anything and I await his instructions, if God does not lead me, or tells me not to do something, I tend not to do it. I had bought a pair summer shorts recently and I wanted to get matching T-shirt to it too.. I had tried a few stores but was unable to get the matching color that I had wanted. So I prayed about it and God told me not to look for it. I have learned he will deal with it his way and in his time. So I went along with my normal agendas. I had to go the drug store to get my medicine renewed so I did so. I was surprised to find the matching T-shirt, in the color I had wanted on sale at half price too in the drug store. After I pray I have come to learn to expect God will answer the prayer, I do not have to do it in my own strength.

 http://christiantheology.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/god-said-to-me/ 

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You cannot falsely limit God to speak solely by the word of God the Bible.. but always you can confirm all God says to you by the Bible.. any new or personal revelations will not contradict the Bible for sure,

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The people who also tell us to use only the Bible to hear God often still lie further to us.. they often also ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy Spirit to next interpret the Bible.

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(Eph 4:18 KJV)  Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
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When we become born from above , Holy Spirit filled Christians the Lord  Our God still always wants us to enjoy His fellowship, friendship and for us all to learn of him through the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross on our behalf.  This relationship is similar  to that of  two close friends who are very close to each other are able to openly  share with each other.To be able to do this fully, effectively  we all must personally learn how to speak to Him freely and also to  be able to hear His voice clearly every day even above our own voice, the voice of the devil and his followers, the world.. We can pray that God will shut our the other voices, and we can tell the devil to shut up as well. We must now also be fully, solely led by Him, God even daily  in every detail of our life. Thus we need to daily pray to God to reveal his will for us as well as to pray he God will help us next to do his will  day by day, preferably in the mornings too..  as we spend our quiet time in the Bible prayerfully we will find God,  Lord Jesus Christ and his Holy Spirit  speaking further  to us from His word, and showing us many new  things, which are hidden from the world.
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When you talk about what the Word, or the  Scriptures say you also now honestly should mean how you alone now do interpret what the Word, the Bible, the scripture says.. as  too many of us read different things out of the same scriptures as we all do know firstly..  so who is right? Sadly too many Evangelical Fundamentalism replaces the worship of God , the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ   with the sole worship of the Bible, bypassing the works of the Holy Spirit it seems, though most Fundamentalists will deny that. Liberalism, too, replaces the worship of God, and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ   with the worship of something else. In the case of Liberalism, however, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of mere human reason , and both groups are not that far apart, for they are are in error.
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Fundamentalists  and Liberals too need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and of John 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit  and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH.; Evangelical Fundamentalism replaces the worship of God , the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ   with the sole worship of the Bible, bypassing the works of the Holy Spirit it seems, though most Fundamentalists will deny that. Liberalism, too, replaces the worship of God, and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ   with the worship of something else. In the case of Liberalism, however, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of mere human reason , and both groups are not that far apart, for they are are in error Fundamentalists tend to worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah loving Jews, who also had worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, too often “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).
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“ Any religious system or leader that tells people exactly what to think and does not share with them their own struggles, imperfections and spiritual journey is a system or leader that is not to be trusted. None of us have all the answers; none of us grasp all of the concepts required to know God fully. Fundamentalism wants to white-wash over these struggles and instead drive home conformity. Within conformity comes control, and control means power. A system of belief that cares so little for affairs of the heart, as well as questions of the mind, is a system of belief that is not worth having. “
 
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Likewise, when Liberal scholars claim that Peter did not write Second Peter or that Paul did not write Ephesians, for instance, they are worshiping their own minds, instead of worshiping God. We know that “all scripture is inspired by God” (2 Timothy 3:16). We know that God is not a liar (Titus 1:2). Not being a liar, God cannot be responsible for inspiring lies.
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We too often have eyes on men and what they say theses days too not on God, and what he says. What God is doing today is calling people out of the world for His name. Whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world, or the non-believing world, they are members of the body of Christ because they’ve been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus, but they know in their hearts they need something that they don’t have and they turn to the only light they have and I think they’re saved ( what he means is that they will be eventually saved???) and they’re going to be with us in heaven.” Even  Dr. Billy Graham made several statements that simply cannot be reconciled with the basic message of salvation through Jesus Christ that he has preached his entire life. Mr. Graham has faithfully and clearly preached the Gospel for over 50 years, and since the interview he has reaffirmed his belief in Christ as the only way of salvation? For all Jews now as well? 
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 Amazing I post my messages on my professing Christian sites and some of them delete them.. Why? they have a hidden agenda of their own, they are not interested in honestly sharing true Christianity now.
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Secondly man has a free will, you cannot cast demons out of a person now if you do not believe they have them, or refuse to believe they have them even as a professing Christian.. King Saul and Apostle Judas clearly were once both anointed once, but were next demon possessed. demon controlled, however you want to play on the words, they next certainly were not Holy Spirit led… the foolish virgins of the New Testament also originally had the anointing now too.. but ran out of it.. So did Judas
 
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A simple prayer I use when a person is demon possessed and is willing to have us deliver him.. for you cannot still help tohise who do not want to be helped.. and the prayer is this-  Father In Jesus name I agree and confess with the sins of this my brother, or sister, and I do now ask you in Jesus name to bind the demons and to cast any, all of them out as well. In Jesus name Satan and all your cohorts I now do demand that you now leave this body and not return again.  
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It works great too, for If you do not bind them they will start to talk back to you, argue with you, manifest themselves some more.. for in realty no matter who you are, you always have a free will,  an ability to choose whom you will serve, or who will control you now Christian or not even till the day you die.. we  are not puppets or involuntary slaves, but free, with a free will.

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So you too do chose whether you want to be Holy Spirit led, filled or not daily as well… and you can freely next choose to go to Hell again too.
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When people attempt to subjectively add to that word, by saying God said this or God told me that, they may be in danger of becoming false prophets? So are also many of the people who deny that God had spoken to the others.. all as simple as that too.. Just cause God chose not to speak to you  outside of the Bible today does not mean he God does not speak to others still too. Or maybe you are not humbly listening, doing your own thing still too..  if so you really will never know God fully.
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 (1 Sam 3:9 KJV)  Therefore Eli said unto Samuel, Go, lie down: and it shall be, if he call thee, that thou shalt say, Speak, LORD; for thy servant heareth. So Samuel went and lay down in his place. 10  And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant heareth.
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(Exo 33:11 KJV)  And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. 
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(Num 12:6 KJV)  And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7  My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8  With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
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(Eph 4:11 KJV)  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
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We walk by faith and not by sight quoted here is taken now out of full context..  faith here is distorted to mean  even trusting now what a mere human now tells us is the supposed truth over the Bible..  and it  excludes other Bible verses like my sheep hear my voice and follow me, you shall not go to the left or the right unless you hear a voice behind you saying walk there in, and greater miracles shall you also do next cause I go to my Father..
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Faith comes by hearing the word of God, in the
Bible or elsewhere too and not hearing   mere men.. thus when I see shallow arguments  of anyone still limiting today as to what God can do, even through
us,  it makes me rightfully also think how shallow their Christian faith now really is.. they are still babies in the Lord and need someone to teach them the whole truth, the whole , full gospel too, for my God an do anything, Jesus is  the same , yesterday, today and forever.  According to your faith it shall be for you as
well, and you might like the foolish virgins be left behind..  As you too do chose  whether you want to be
Holy Spirit led, filled or not daily as  well… and you can freely next choose to  go to Hell again too.
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In truth also , only one of the seven Churches in Rev 2-3, Philadelphia, is promised the open door of the rapture. so what about the other 6 types of churches
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(Mat 24:34 KJV)  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.35  Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37  But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39  And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40  Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41  Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42  Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.  43  But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44  Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45  Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46  Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47  Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48  But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49  And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;  50  The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51  And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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What’s wrong with Predictions About the End of the World such as those by Hal Lindsey  and the Dispensationalist dilemma Matthew 24:34    “What generation?  Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs — chief among them the rebirth of Israel.  A generation in the Bible is something like forty years.  If this is a correct deduction, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things could take place.  Many scholars who have studied Bible prophecy all their lives believe that this is so.” (The Late Great Planet Earth, p. 54) “Jesus said “this generation shall not pass, till all these things come to pass.” What generation ? The generation that would see all these signs. We are that generation! I believe you cannot miss it. We’re that generation, and I believe we’re rapidly moving toward the coming of Christ.” (Apocalypse Planet Earth videotape, 1990, HLM)  ” ‘if’ a generation was forty years and ‘if’ the generation of the ‘fig tree’ (Matthew 24:32-34) started with the foundation of the state of Israel, then Jesus ‘might come back by 1988.’ But I put a lot of ifs and maybes in because I knew that no one could be absolutely certain.” (”We are the generation that will see the end times… and the return of Jesus.” (The 1980’s: Countdown to Armageddon (New York, Bantam, 1980), back cover. ” (The Late Great Planet Earth [Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1970], p. 145). “The decade of the 1980’s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it.” (The 1980’s: Countdown to Armageddon, p. 8 (emphasis is his); cf. pp. 12, 15.) 
But what is also astonishing is how many of these supposedly valid Bible teachers of the end time prophecies rarely still do even agree with each other,  even with Hal Lindsey author  of the late great planet earth… [;us  ” Like most men who have acquired great wealth, prestige and influence he has spent a good deal of time chasing women. His third wife and church recently gave him the boot , Hal Lindsey is currently married to his fourth wife, having divorced his previous three.  ”   or even those many others from   the Dallas Theological cemetery many of whom do not believe in miracles today but only the existence of the anti Christ it seems.
“[Amos 3:7] Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.” I believe that we are not to be ignorant, (not in darkness), [1Thess 5:4] “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.” I believe that ignorance, surprise, and not knowing the hour is a punishment of not watching, and does not apply to faithful believers who repent and watch: [Revelation 3:3] “Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.” [Luke 12:39] “And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.”  http://bibleprophesy.org/pretriberror.htm
 
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(Col 2:16 KJV)  Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17   Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
(Gal 3:1 KJV)  O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?  2  This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4  Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5  He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6  Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8  And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9  So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12  And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14  That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
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The New Testament Covenant made by God through Jesus Christ has replaced the Old testament covenant, which itself was mandatory to keep in those days but this old testament Covenant could never still save anyone, they still all personally were saved by their personal faith in God to save them next too. So now we as Christians have been set free from merely keeping the requirements of the past inapplicable laws.. such as solely worshipping God on Sabbath, on the new moon.. and not being allowed to eat unclean meats, etc.. As a Christian we all  should have developed by now enough spiritual insight to be able to led God lead you directly every day, not by too often fallible, sinful men,
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I have continually said that the devil works continually to take you away from God, to break your relationship with God.. and if the devil cannot do it himself he will use a person, a sect, a false denomination next to try to do this too… even such sects as as the false seventh day Adventists or messianic Jews too they do now have some Biblical truths but they are grossly in error still too for they are judiazers who try to put you into bondage and also to have you worship their false religion, distortion of true Christianity.
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Many false People like to establish false rules, false control, false influence  over you, by promoting  rules they themselves do not keep, mad up rules  to get your attention, your false subservient, but you can never keep these false rules anyway, and these rules change so often too.. and they call them applicable commandments.. forgetting the commandment thou shall worship God in spirit and in truth.. thou shall love God and love thy neighbor as thyself firstly as well..  
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I am also still getting really rightfully tired about  these so called Biblical, spiritual experts who open their mouth and talk big about something they personally now still have never experienced, know very little about, such as what the Bible actually says, or  Spiritual gifts, speaking in tongues, prophecy, the anointing, baptism of the spirit, miracles, healings etc..
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(2Ti 3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
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(Psa 19:7) The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. 8  The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
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(Psa 19:11) Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
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(Pro 13:13) Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.
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 Is 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no one else; there is no God besides Me. I will gird {and} arm you, though you have not known Me,

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(Jer 32:27 KJV)  Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
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 It also now seems that unresolved problems tend to make us seek God. How to draw closer to God. You have wanted God to speak to you for a long time. You have wanted to talk to God and get answers back. This  is an opportunity for you to have a dialogue with God. God too wants to communicate with you. You might have been in church, a crusade, in your room, or outside under the stars. You felt God’s call, but you didn’t know exactly what God wanted you to do. You knew you were going to do something special, but you didn’t know what it was. Now you can also find out God’s plan for you, and others too and the literature is all free too.   It teaches you how to hear God’s voice.  God will teach you many things you need to know.  Valid spiritual tools to help you make conscious contact with God: Praise, Prayer, Humbleness, Obedience, the Bible. 

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Get yourself ready where God speaks to you 

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