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(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
 
an apostle facing the reality of being a castaway…
 
 Sadly there is also an intellectual acceptance of the faith, even  of Jesus Christ himself, but this is not the same now as accepting Jesus Christ as Lord.. believe on the lord Jesus Christ and you will be save.. I have often had business partner, friends, who supported the gospel, going to church, and yet refused to make a full personal commitment to  God. Next when I had prayed about it to God he replied.. they have seen the kingdom from afar, but they are not going to go into.. so close and yet so far away still.
 
(Luke 14:31 KJV)  Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32  Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
 
Contrary to the devil’s and lawyers lies, only the lawyer’s and the courts are those persons who tend to get richer, profit generally from a divorce. On top of that Divorce persons tend to have a shorter life span, and a shorter life as well compared to the others.
A spouses also tends not to file for divorce unless certain conditions are met..
 
– The think they can get richer by a divorce.. but 2 can live cheaper than one..
– They have a substitute mate in mind, whom they should have consulted first, cause often they have no intention ever of marrying them too..
– The have the false support of their family, mother generally, brother and sister. Even often a false pastor, a false church now too.
– They have adequate cash at hand to pay for the initially lawyer’s fees. you would be surprised how many spouses still keep a hidden bank account from the other spouse, eventually the other spouse finds out and this causes really deep bitterness, anger, resentment, even unforgiveness too.
 
There’s no doubt there are abusive spouses, male and females.. but often one spouses provokes the other one into an abusive knowing  beforehand as well..
 
there are no real winners in broken home, a broken marriage generally now still too.”
 
Some Professing Christian persons  have been contemplating and discussing what the proper attitude and conduct should be among Christians towards things like oppressed workers in China and things of that sort . Issues that pits left versus right, even!
 
The first essential Social action firstly as defined by the New Testament Books of acts in the appointment of deacons was, and still is the helping the poor and needy persons in the local Church. This was also true even in the old testament where 1/7 of the tithe was given to the local poor persons.
 
(Acts 6:1 KJV)  And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

>>There is only one ‘expert’ on church planting and that’s the Lord, and Zech. 4:6 warns us that it is not by might or power (and not by man’s wisdom- 1 Cor. chaps. 1-2). God told us to start a church in August of 2003 with no funds, no supporting churches, etc.- i.e., nothing other than God’s leading. A missionary and experienced administrator talked with us, and told us we were violating ‘every rule in the book’ and that we were headed to be another one of the failed plants in our area (of which there have been many). We obeyed, and God blessed, and here we are as Calvary Chapel Space Coast ready to send our first full time missionary, and start another church campus. All by God’s grace, and all for His glory!

I ran a home church for about 2 dozen poor persons for years, and I fed them every week freely too, and I never asked ANYONE FOR MONEY, never took one offering too, God supplied all I needed too.

Secondly a true Christian Ministry starts as as a Faith Ministry, trusting in God to supply all of the needs and not rather being weak in the faith, starting a tax exempt and a marketing Corporation, even  selling Books, tapes, video and  things, begging, begging,  begging OTHERS FOR MONEY.. with posts like like this.. ” I have incorporated as a nonprofit under the name “Athanatos Christian Ministries, Inc.”  This is a pretty hefty step for me.  It takes what has been a full time hobby and gives it legs to maybe be a full time full time endeavor into the future.  Ultimately, the goal is for ACM to be self-sufficient, paying for itself off of book sales and products sold to churches, etc.  At this time, however, donations are helpful.  If that is of interests you, you may use the Paypal/credit card link on the ACM web page. I will still operate under the name of Sntjohnny especially in regards to my apologetics to nonChristians, etc. “
 
Some people who donate the money  also do try to influence what can and cannot be preached too and do tie the hands of God here.
 
“I rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church  now trying to make any money from  the gospel, or begging, asking for money or even  any of the adds here.  I also do not endorse any of  Bibles, books, tapes listed here for sale too. Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should have the faith for God to supply what anyone needs  freely to anyone who needs it.  “Rev George Muellar did.”
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The proper Christian Example- “No More Rich Seat/Poor Seat .  George became the pastor of a small church in England. The church wanted to pay him a good salary from the money it received renting pews to rich church members who sat at the front of the church. (Poor members had to sit in the “cheap” seats in the back.) George told them that this had to stop if they wanted him to be their pastor. Even so, he did not allow the church to pay him a salary. He trusted God to meet his needs, and God did. George and his family never missed a meal and were always able to pay their rent. George began to sense, however, that God had something else for him to do.
Praying Food into the Home.   Each day as George walked the streets, he saw children everywhere who had no mom or dad. They lived on the streets or in state-run poorhouses, where they were treated badly. George felt God calling him to open an orphanage to take care of the children.  George prayed, asking God to provide a building, people to oversee it, furniture, and money for food and clothing. God answered his prayers. The needs of the orphanage were met each day. Sometimes a wealthy person would send a large amount of money, or a child would give a small amount received as a gift or for doing chores. Many times food, supplies or money came at the last minute, but God always provided without George telling anyone about his needs. He just prayed and waited on God..  More than 10,000 children lived in the orphanage over the years. When each child became old enough to live on his own, George would pray with him and put a Bible in his right hand and a coin in his left. He explained to the young person that if he held onto what was in his right hand, God would always make sure there was something in his left hand as well.

 
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Do you see any similarities between George Mueller’s and the Apostle Paul’s decisions to follow Jesus? How did George change after he became a follower of Jesus?

  1. What did Mueller mean when he told the orphans to “hold onto the Bible in your right hand”?
  2. Describe a time when God has answered your prayers and provided for you or your family.
  3. 4: Do you live by faith in God, to provide your needs, or do you rely on others, your job, your own efforts still?

(  Ironically many of his present supporters beg for money, sell his Books also  to make money, instead of praying.) http://chi.gospelcom.net/kids/glimpsesforkids/gfk008_2.php

 

 

“HOW TO ASCERTAIN THE WILL OF GOD
  • 1. I seek at the beginning to get my heart into such a state that it has no will of its own in regard to a given matter. Nine-tenths of the trouble with people generally is just here. Nine-tenths of the difficulties are overcome when our hearts are ready to do the LORD’s will, whatever it may be. When one is truly in this state, it is usually but a little way to the knowledge of what His will is.
  • 2. Having done this, I do not leave the result to feeling or simple impression. If so, I make myself liable to great delusions.
  • 3. I seek the Will of the Spirit of God through, or in connection with, the Word of God. The Spirit and the Word must be combined. If I look to the Spirit alone without the Word, I lay myself open to great delusions also. If the Holy Ghost guides us at all, He will do it according to the Scriptures and never contrary to them.”
George Mueller 1805-1898  –from the classic biography of George Mueller, “George Müller of Bristol,”New Window by A. T. PiersonNew Window, Appendix N: “The Wise Sayings of George MuellerNew Window
 

 

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a 36 per cent increase

Canada, Alberta, Calgary’s Homeless population jumps beyond 4,000

More families also do now need help:   July 16, 2008 in the city that was supposedly the home of rich people, millionaires now too

Calgary’s homeless numbers are growing significantly faster than the city’s general population, leaping 18 per cent since 2006 according to this year’s count.

As of May 14 there were 4,060 homeless Calgarians, up from 3,436 in 2006.

Local Officials say the cannot. or refuse cannot explain it, but the rate of homeless families jumped dramatically, rising to 197 from 145 in 2006 — a 36 per cent increase.

These figures are just the tip of the massive iceberg of the high cost of living in Calgary, and the actual low paying jobs mostly available in Alberta for the average persons, excluding the executives, cit hall and governmental  ehh..

There are many other problems in this city not advertised, such as the extremely high rate of divorce too, all even as a result of past Conservative policies, denials  too.. too  many poor, homeless, suffering people have already left the province so now they are no longer included in the figures of the prior poor  and needy, suffering people..

It has been known for decades in Alberta that their free  food banks are one of the busiest places in Canada too.

Alberta’s Conservatives, evangelicals still do tend to still bash the poor people, for they  tend to live and practice in the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, everyman for himself.. all done yes in the home town of Canada’s professing Christian Missionary Alliance Prime Minister Stephen Harper now too.. the richest province in Canada cannot, or refuses to look adequately after it’s own poor people.. shame on them all.

“Low-wage jobs are plentiful, but Alberta does not have rent controls. . Many of Calgary’s homeless are employed — as many as 60 per cent staying at the Mustard Seed Street Ministry, said operations manager Floyd Perras.”

  But this spring, Metro Vancouver — which has at least twice Calgary’s population — released a preliminary number of 2,600 homeless, a 20 per cent increase from the count done in 2005.

History as usual repeats itself even in Alberta. Predicable, cyclic  Bust takes still Alberta by surprise  today ? “ There’s a tiny park in downtown Calgary that is a stark reminder of everything that went wrong in Alberta after the boom of the 1980s and seems to be happening all over again.  The park is right next to the Bank of Montreal’s 41-storey office tower. It was supposed to be the site of a second tower that was cancelled when the bank realized the boom was over and it wouldn’t need all those offices in Western Canada after all. Twenty years later, the price of oil and gas has nosedived again and major projects are about to be cancelled or capped.  Just last week, developers of what is slated to be the tallest building in Western Canada declared that they need $1.1 billion to keep the project going. There is already a square-block hole in the ground and a forest of girders and cranes on-site in the heart of downtown Calgary, but the future home of EnCana Corporation is desperately trying to arrange construction financing in a tight credit market.  Building permits on five other large projects are set to expire because of inactivity. In some cases, the city has had to seal empty construction pits because the developers have pulled the plug.  You would think that in a city, and a province, that has experienced more than a few booms and busts over the past 80 years some sort of common sense would have evolved about how to thrive over the long term in such an economy. But it seems both the private sector and the government are easily blinded by their wishful thinking: this boom will last forever and the money will keep rolling in, they keep telling themselves and everyone else. But it never does. So in the same week that the city’s largest construction project was revealed to be in trouble, the finance minister and the premier announced more bad news. The provincial treasury’s projected surplus for 2008-2009 dwindled from $8.5 billion to $2 billion because of declining oil and gas prices and will likely dwindle even further. Plans for new roads, schools and hospitals are now on hold.  Premier Ed Stelmach also revealed that he is deferring a new royalty regime – which was have to added more than $1.4 billion a year to provincial coffers – because it’s simply the wrong time to increase taxes and risk a further slowdown of the petroleum industry.  No doubt he wishes former premier Ralph Klein had increased royalties years ago when the industry was awash in profits. None of this would really matter if the provincial government had actually prepared for the bust during the boom by saving some of its billions of dollars in bounty.  But it didn’t. Instead it spent billions on infrastructure when the cost of labour and materials was skyrocketing; at one point it issued $400 cheques to every man, woman and child in Alberta, a $1.4 billion giveaway; and it cut taxes or kept them low. Alberta still has The Heritage Savings Trust Fund established by former premier Peter Lougheed but it is only worth $15.8 billion. Norway, by contrast, has managed to squirrel away $350 billion since 1991. Stephen Harper’s Conservatives have also managed to whittle away billion dollar surpluses. Perhaps they also thought the boom would last forever. Or perhaps all those Alberta Conservatives simply forgot about the famous bumper sticker from the 1980s that read: “Please God, let there be another oil boom. I promise not to piss it away this time.”  ” http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/541627   
 
So”  The Prime Minister’s Office says it’s imposing restrictions on the size of ministerial entourages on trips outside Ottawa.  PMO spokesman Kory Teneycke says the number of political aides allowed to travel with a minister will be limited to two. And he says the government is considering a plan to encourage public servants to fly economy class.  The measures come amid sky high travel bills that some Conservative cabinet ministers have piled up since the Tories came to power in 2006.

For example, The Toronto Star is reporting that last year, then environment minister John Baird billed the taxpayers $61,000 in airfares to attend a climate change conference in Indonesia.  The tab included flights for himself, three political aides and two federal officials. (The Canadian Press, ccg)

(Conservatives-CBC)  Opposition parties say the Harper government is softening up the public for cuts to the CBC.  With the crashing economy and recent revelations about CBC executive spending, Liberals and New Democrats argue the government has already started to make its case.  Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has mentioned the CBC’s $1 billion-dollar annual federal subsidy — and has floated the idea of selling federal assets to balance the budget.  Heritage Minister James Moore sent a letter warning CBC executives to curb their spending in light of “reported excess.”  In the House of Commons this week, a Conservative backbencher accused the public broadcaster of “irresponsible” spending habits.  NDP heritage critic Libby Davies says it all adds up to the government “laying the groundwork” for a whack at the CBC, a favourite Conservative whipping boy. (The Canadian Press, ccg)  

 

Canadian Political Christians.. 1

  
Part 1: It should be clear, apparent to any one reading this post that it seems even very difficult to even try to believe that the New Conservative party of Canada , it’s leaders, it’s supporters, evangelical supporters now too,  are even really Christians.. persons who do really  care about the good welfare of others.. for the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle undeniably and clearly involved helping the poor and needy people.. not rather the established rich get richer.. Now  I do not have to agree with all that was written here, but under the right of free speech they too are allowed to be heard now too. 
 
There has been definite an attempt by some Canadians  to associate  the Albertan – New Conservatives Party of Canada as being right winged Christian Nazis, dictators, abusive persons, oppressors of the poor people, supported by the rich Jews now too, and there has been undeniable Hitler, Nazi support in the recent decades amongst even the German North American Baptist community in Alberta,  as I  have personally witnessed also.
 
But let me also  remind you in fairness too  that it was the immoral Nazi Hitler,  who falsely not only had committed murder of Jews and many others,  but he also was the first one to establish  a State  Social welfare and medical care system. 
 
A true Christian should also still be a balanced Christian, a right winger as well as a left winger.. they should respect law and order, but as well be considerate of, compassionate for   all of his neighbors, even the  poor and needy persons too.
 

“The Canadian National Newspaper: Stephen Harper government’s public policy motivations linked to far right affiliations by Paul Chen.  Author Trevor Harrison links Preston Manning to Northern Foundation ideological interests
 
 Trevor Harrison links Stephen Harper and his government, along with Conservative Party founders like Preston Manning (right) to bona fide fascist ideologues.

The Stephen Harper government’s systematized negligence on defending Canada’s social fabric proves one thing, beyond any reasonable doubt. Mr. Harper is apparently using Canadian governmental authority to advance the ultra right wing ideological goals that Trevor Harrison outlines in his book. Mr. Harrison documents in the book entitled Of Passionate Intensity, that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was a member of the ultra-right wing Northern Foundation in 1989. Mr. Harrison documents that this Foundation was comprised of Neo-Nazi social Darwinist intellectuals.

The original Nazis, under Adolf Hitler, believed in that Ayrans were destined to rule, and other groups, as inferior populations, were destined to serve the ruled. Neo-Nazis or “modern Nazis”, who are also inspired by “Eugenics”, further believe that these racially superior group of whites, are destined to once again rule the world, under the religious guidance of these “Aryans”, through the creation of a “New World Order” (NWO). “Globalization” is a project among these elites, toward the creation of the NWO.
As social Darwinists, Canada’s Neo-Nazi intellectuals believe that society and the world in general, would be strengthened when weaker “mongrel races” accept their “inferiority” and are allowed to perish, without the protection of social policy, like universal public healthcare, and human rights.

Neo-Nazis view war i.e. the “War on Terrorism”, as desirable, to create a “warrior society”, and to ensure that the resources of the world are under the direction and exclusive control of “Aryan descendants”. A “warrior society” glorifies militarism and military service to defend against “enemies of society”, which include human rights and social activists.
The Northern Foundation of which Mr. Harper was a member, is a male-dominated and self-anointed “white brotherhood”. Females are not excluded though, provided that they accept its highly conformist and male chauvinistic culture of fascism.

Mr. Harper would eventually “officially” break-away from this group. Indeed, it would be unfair to Mr. Harper, to continually link him ideologically to a group that he may have simply sought to explore, in his process of political exploration and outreach. However, upon closer examination, the substantive policy direction of the Conservative government, appears to be emphatically driven by the expressed agenda of the Northern Foundation. This includes massive cuts to programs aimed, for example, at advancing the status of women; and protecting minorities from institutionalized discrimination.

A national social housing group on 12 July 2008, gave the Stephen Harper government a failing grade when it comes to putting roofs over the heads of needy Canadians. Members of ‘ACORN’ say the Conservative government has stood by while housing in Canada has dipped below international standards, and they want action of the issue.
However, the apparent continued apparent support for Eugenic inspired Northern Foundation ideology, suggests that Canadians can expect further worsening of Canada’s quality-of-living under the Stephen Harper government.

Through Eugenics, ruling elites seek to “prune Canada”, and the human race in general, of what are considered by some to be “physically, mentally, socially and even economically ‘unfit’ persons. ” LINK

This is not a “conspiracy theory”. Representatives of ruling elite affiliated with the Northern Foundation, who support the depopulation agenda of Eugenics have openly spoken and written about their objectives. Eugenics is a social Darwinistic related “super-religion” which has operated with the religious circles of elites who subscribe to the principle that only the “fittest should survive”.

The “need” to divert expenditures away from vital social spending into “investments” in a bloating American-linked military-industrial complex, is in turn, the socially engineered result of the corresponding Eugenic-inspired Iraq War.

The unethically perpetrated Iraq War, has in turn been used to rationalize the leaching of billions dollars from defending Canada’s quality-if-life, is designed to intentionally create the conditions for socio-economic dislocation in Canada.

It is apparent that the Iraq War, was motivated by an apparent Eugenic desire by the U.S. George W. Bush administration, to destroy America’s “middle class” resistance to elite desire for “total control”. It is further apparent, that the far-right in Canada through the Harper government, seeks to import that agenda into Canada.
The Harrison documented Neo-Nazism, that is associated with the Northern Foundation, ideologically embraces sexual repression; homophobia; and seeks to prevent constructive measures to redress the plight of the poor, which include senior citizens and children.

The apparent goals of the Northern Foundation, through the Harper government, appear to be to replace Canada as we know it, (as a progressive society), into being a regressive society under the U.S. colonial control, under the direction of a self-anointed clique, that now pursues the clandestine “North American Union” (NAU) agenda. In other words, Mr. Harper appears to be attempting to use public office designed to defend the national interests of all Canadians, to carry out the apparent private agenda of a clique, whose members are determined to transform Canada into their own bleak fascist image under U.S. control.

The support of the Harper government for the undermining of civil rights through the rationalization of the so-called “War on Terrorism”; operates to execute the glorification of militarism and war; messianic Zionism; an apparent bias toward ‘eugenics’ in relation to ignoring the global threat of the HIV-AIDS pandemic, (and the corresponding environmental-related “life and death” issue of Global Warming); and use religion as a means to manipulate the masses. All of these are being conducted to support the desire for Canada to become a U.S. colony through the endorsement of the Security and Prosperity and Partnership of North America (SPPNA); and are all supported by the expressed ideology of the Northern Foundation. More on Stephen Harper and the Northern Foundation as documented by Trevor Harrison
Stephen Harper was Reform Party Policy chief, at a time when it had numerous members of the white supremacist group Heritage Front as members. Trevor Harrison, further documents that Mr. Harper even had Heritage Front members doing security for Preston Manning at Reform Party events in Ontario. The Reform Party would evolve into the Alliance Party of Canada, which sought to take over the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada (PC Party) toward the formation of the “Conservative Party of Canada”. The taking over of the PC Party was sought to provide legitimacy to a movement that was largely continued to be perceived a fringe group from Alberta. However, the current Conservative Party is still apparently governed by the same fringe Reform Party mentality, which in turn is linked with the architects of the far right Northern Foundation.

When Stephen Harper was a member of the ultra-right-wing Northern Foundation in 1989, Mr. Harrison documents that this was a group that had numerous Neo-Nazi skinheads as organizers, as well as a leadership that included a well-known white supremacist and anti-feminist crusader as a prominent leader that sought to take over the mass-media to enable the fulfillment of a right wing agenda.
The Northern Foundation, with the support of corporate allies was able to get Mr. Harper elected in the first place by indeed, taking over the mass-media in Canada. This was done to shelter Mr. Harper from the kinds of critical journalism which had kept him out of power, in the first place. Corporate mass-media owners would seek to remake Mr. Harper and the Conservative Party from being ultra right, into a fabricated image of a non-threatening “moderately conservative” party.
Trevor Harrison also documents that “He [Mr. Harper] had little trouble doing so, as the media had been largely muffled by one fact: press baron Conrad Black, then reaching the height of his powers was also a member of the Northern Foundation and equally shy about having it publicly known.” Mr. Harrison elaborates that, “Journalists feared incurring his wrath as he employed many of them at the time, and was a potential employer for those whom he didn’t employ. Had they made the membership list public, Mr. Black would have been exposed.”
Now that Mr. Harper has been able to seize power by taking over the PC Party (through a breach of contract law), and with the help of, for example, media owners of CanWest Global (that form example, controls many Canadian newspapers including the National Post, and the Ottawa Citizen) who donated money to his political campaigns, the Conservative Party in association with the Northern Foundation now seeks to focus on the fulfillment of an NWO agenda.
Complaining of “socialist/progressive thinking”, and a media/political system controlled by ‘lib/left’ elites, who had been ‘able to impose their agenda on the Canadian people because “small-’c’ conservatives” had been divided. Mr. Harrison further documents that the Northern Foundation was the creation of a number of generally extreme right-wing conservatives, including Anne Hartmann (a director of REAL Women), Geoffrey Wasteneys (A long-standing member of the Alliance for the Preservation of English in Canada), George Potter (also a member of the Alliance for the Preservation of English in Canada), author Peter Brimelow, Link Byfield (son of Ted Byfield and himself publisher/president of Alberta Report), and Stephen Harper.
Mr. Harrison, also links former Reform Party leader Preston Manning, who continues to be a leading intellectual of the Conservative Party, right-wing author David Frum (linked to the current U.S. Bush administration), Toronto Sun columnist Peter Worthington and others, as having been affiliated to the Northern Foundation.
The roster of conservative adherents speaking at Foundation conferences in 1989, 1990 and 1992 is equally instructive, further to Mr. Harrison’s very detailed documentation. Among speakers were Dr Walter Block (the Fraser Institute), Ed Vanwoudenberg (leader of the Christian Heritage party), Lubor Zink (an extreme right-wing columnist with the Sun chain — now owned by Quebecor), Dr. John Whitehall (of the Canadian Christian Anti-Communist Crusade), Ron Leitch (president of the Alliance for the Preservation of English in Canada), Gwen Landolt (founder of the right wing organization REAL Women), Ken Campbell (founder of Renaissance Canada), Paul Fromm (former member of the Western Guard, a neo-fascist group, and later of CFAR), and author William Gairdner. The Foundation’s quarterly, The Northern Voice, had sought to regularly provide advertising space for these same individuals, their fascistic visions, and their related organizations.
Ostensibly, therefore, the Northern Foundation has sought to be a vehicle for bringing together several disparate right-wing groups and otherwise for disseminating a Neo-Nazi ideology. Significantly, it also had cultivated substantial connections to the Reform Party, which would eventually evolve into the current Conservative Party of Canada.
Mr. Harrison also documents, that the Reform Party under the watchful eye of Preston Manning and Stephen Harper, housed former Neo-Nazi Western Guard (an infamous Toronto-area hate group launched in the 1960’s) members like Leigh Smith, and Wolfgang Droege. Mr. Droege had gone on to form Heritage Front and brought other members of that group into the Reform Party and eventual Conservative Party political interests.
More on the makings of the Northern Foundation
The Northern Foundation’s president was Rita Ann Hartmann, widow of former Western Guard radical Paul Hartmann. Ms. Hartmann had moved to Ottawa in 1987 with her six children, two of whom were skinheads who would go on to recruit on behalf of the Heritage Front in the national capital. The Hartmann family, the Toronto Star elaborates. lived in a huge home at 25 Delaware Avenue, in the well-to-do Golden Triangle neighbourhood. From there, Hartmann maintained connections with Neo-Nazi groups across North America. In March 1990, for example, she wrote to the ultra-violent Confederate Hammerskins of Tulsa, Oklahoma, using an alias she favours, Eleanor Cameron. Out of the same address, Ann Hartmann busied herself with REAL Women of Canada. Ms. Hartmann, who has a law degree from the University of Toronto, provides legal advice to REAL Women. In April 1989, for example, she gave an anti-abortion speech to a REAL Women conference at the Radisson Hotel in Ottawa.
Author, Mr. Harrison also further documents that the Northern Foundation’s inaugural conference was also attended by a well-known Conservative MP; a founder of Alberta Report magazine; a senior representative of the Alliance for the Preservation of English in Canada; and a columnist for the Toronto Sun. Many of those associated with the Northern Foundation would go on to play key roles in the Neo-Nazi Heritage Front. These persons include Steve Dumas, the Foundation’s research officer, who would write a regular column in the Front’s Up Front publication under the pseudonym Steve Baker; Geoff Lupton, who had made an unsuccessful attempt in 1989 to establish a Nationalist Party club at Carleton University and who used the pseudonym Geoff Edwards when working on behalf of the Heritage Front; and Eric (Stilts) Hartmann, son of Paul and Ann, who was moved to pen an anti-abortion editorial for Mr. Droege.
 
“The Northern Foundation Conference was the start of it all for the Heritage Front,” recalls Droege. “From that point on, things really took off.” So too, did things take-over for Mr. Harper who became Prime Minister of Canada, and leader of a party which has apparently sought to fulfill the agenda of the Northern Foundation. That agenda apparently includes blocking candidates like Mr. Warner, which do not present the ideology of the Northern Foundation, that in turn endorses the U.S. President George Bush administration.
Further links with the neo-con National Citizens’ Coalition (NCC)
“The connections between the National Citizens’ Coalition (NCC) and the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance/Conservative Party go back a long way,” also documents Mr. Harrison. Their political agendas have been virtually identical: so called “deficit reduction” against progressive social policies; restriction of immigration; ending universal social programs; lowering taxes for corporations and high-income earners, and ending universal public healthcare,” further elaborates Mr. Harrison.
Colin Brown, the founder of the NCC, began his conservative crusade in 1967 with a full-page ad in the Globe and Mail attacking the federal Liberal government’s plans for a national medicare scheme. Brown would eventually incorporate the far right National Citizens’ Coalition in 1975.
There are no direct ties between the Conservative Party and the National Citizens’ Coalition. Furthermore, with the former President of the National Citizens’ Coalition as leader of the Conservative Party formal ties, with that organization, would be redundant.”
   

Canadian Political Christians.. 2

   
Part 2: It should be clear, apparent to any one reading this post that it seems even very difficult to even try to believe that the New Conservative party of Canada , it’s leaders, it’s supporters, evangelical supporters now too,  are  even really Christians.. persons who do really  care about the good welfare of others.. for the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle undeniably and clearly involved helping the poor and needy people.. not rather the established rich get richer.. Now  I do not have to agree with all that was written here, but under the right of free speech they too are allowed to be heard now too.
  
Still to me a bad Conservative is the same as a bad Liberal… i support neither of them..


“The Canadian National Newspaper:  http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/07/14/02459.html
Encore:  Conservatives Put Canada’s Most Vulnerable on Chopping Block Compiled by John Stokes
 
 Prime Minister Stephen Harper Of Canada…

The Liberal Opposition chastises the Conservative government for cutting $1 billion in funding that targets the most vulnerable Canadians, despite at the same time reporting a near-record surplus of $13.2 billion for 2005-06. “The vindictive, mean-spirited cuts targeted at the weak, the needy, the vulnerable and the marginalized in Canada, could only have been dreamt up by the insider group of Conservative Mike Harris hold-over ministers in this government,” said Liberal Leader Bill Graham. “Conservatives have continued their “them versus us” mentality. People without money or clout get clobbered by them. In a country as blessed as ours, how does the Prime Minister justify cuts to funding for immigrant youth, aboriginal women, adults with literacy problems, housing for the disabled and vulnerable workers? “When the Liberal Party inherited the Government of Canada, we had a $42 billion deficit, and we managed it for the people of this country” Mr. Graham continued. “The Conservatives got a $13 billion surplus that they’re squandering and they won’t give a cent to poor people. Mr. Graham further critically observes that “Why on earth is the Prime Minister eliminating research on the health of visible minorities, on child abuse, trafficking of women, support to voluntary group for soup kitchens and for training Canadians with disabilities? Aren’t they Canadians, too? Don’t they deserve value for their money?” Liberals argue that the proposed funding cuts directly target women, Aboriginal Canadians, those in need of affordable housing and to other groups for which the Conservatives have traditionally shown little concern.

Chair of the Liberal Women’s Caucus Belinda Stronach berated the Harper government for cutting $5 million from the Status of Women Canada.”Why is this government anti-women? Or is it they simply don’t care about the well being of 51 percent of the population?” she asked.
The only minority group the Conservatives are interested in supporting is the minority of Canadians who supported them in the last election. Through this latest round of spending cuts, the Harper government has sent a message to Canadians: if you don’t fit the profile of a potential Conservative voter, you are out of luck.
Mr. Harper as a “Christian Pretender”  In Canada, Mr. Harper has continued this dubious tradition by campaigning on a platform supposedly inspired by Christianity. In fact. Mr. Harper has proven once again through the belligerent actions of his government against Canada’s social fabric, that he is as a “Christian Pretender”.  Mr. Harper shows that as a self-professed ‘Christian’ disciple of Jesus, he, like his “boss” Mr. Bush in the United States, is also a complete fraud.
Tommy Douglas, voted the “Greatest Canadian”, who was a Baptist Minister, and devout Christian showed in the political areas, the spirit of a disciple Jesus. In contrast with Mr. Harper, Tommy Douglas defended the plight of poor; fought for women’s rights; for the creation and affirmation of a universal healthcare system in the context of the affirmation of human rights. Mr. Douglas did this while balancing the budget, and earning even the respect and praise of U.S. financial institutions who had previously feared the spectre of “socialism” in Saskatchewan.
It is further apparent that Mr. Harper does not follow the teaching expressed in the Bible, on the vital ethic of social responsibility to each other and to our planet Earth. Instead, it is apparent that in Mr. Harper’s seeks cuts in taxes for multi-millionaires in particular, who own the largest and most exploitative Corporations in Canada, while at the same time cutting more than a billion dollars from government support to disenfranchised. In so doing, Mr. Harper arguably serves the apparent “emissaries of the anti-Christ” who worship what the Bible referred to as Mammon.
It is unfortunate that many Canadians have mistaken Mr. Harper’s agenda as being that of a devout Christian. His self-professed Christianity is nothing more than a “cover story”. This apparent “cover story” is somewhat reminiscent of a criminal who tries to mislead others from within an ultimate hidden agenda.
It is apparent that Mr. Harper’s agenda, is to destroy Canada’s social fabric that had been championed by Tommy Douglas and by other Canadians. Mr. Harper with his U.S. Republican mentors, seeks to destroy and replace a Canadian cultural identity associated with peace and social justice. “
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Bad Pastors, bad deacons, bad elders = bad church

 

 
>>“Do you know of any churches where the elders willingly present themselves before the church on a regular basis”
 
yes I have met good functioning elders and bad ones as well..
 
As to “in love submit one to another”…
 
According to my reading of the scriptures the term Pastor is always plural, not singular,  meaning there are too be many pastors in any local church, and pastors also equally, mutally  do have to submit to the gifted elders, who are the apostles- missionaries and prophets- all appointed by  God as his spokesman – the NT Greek verb is continually present- meaning God continues to give these men ( or women – such as Junia note worthy amongst the apostles) unto the church now as well , but  today most evangelical pastors tend to deny the existance of these God ordained, given offices even today,  even firstly because they themselves are rebels, those  who wrongfully refuse to submit to other’s for always submission is mutal- meaning reciprocal.. and also do note this it is still voluntarily, unenforceable.. Dictatorial pastors tend to be ungoldy persons still.
 
(Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23  Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24  And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26  Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
 
(Deu 31:27 KJV)  For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?
 
I heard firsthand one teenager saying to another teenager  , “I cannot trust you, you lie to me all the time” and this next had made me reflect upon the reality that the average person lies 3 times in every ten minutes of conversation, and it also reminded me with my past years of undeniable dealing with Bell related to my internet download problems, they too had  lied to me all the time, by not admitting the truth first that there was a problem, nor next honestly admitting the cause of the problem. It seems that spin doctoring, misleading, lying to others is a very major part of not just the lawyers, used car salesmen, but a regular part of the sales, advertising, corporate way of doing business with consumers these days Canada wide now as well.   http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/why-many-businesses-fail/
 
It seems also that lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, pornography, alcoholism, slander, gossiping, etc.,  is something that  too many pastors also cannot give up on these  days too. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/a-hireling-in-an-evangelical-church/
 
Now it was interesting I had met this really crooked head elder and head deacon in a Baptist church, not just in the Pentecostal churches, where there too their elders and deacons, tend to be pretentious ones   ( for when was the last time you saw an elder giving food, money to the poor persons in the church as was done in the book of Acts?) .. even such as the one who was an elder and owned a bar that served alcohol of all things, and who borrowed money from others in the church for his business and then refused to pay it back too, he also next ran to be a local politicans but lost now.. .. and told me if I come to his church he would call the police against me, but  the same bad church I next rather had  helped to close down permanently , for I  had the federal government remove their tax exempt license  after I had exposed in writing to  news editors, elected officials too  their much too many unacceptable abuses, money thefts, slanders, etc.,
  
Now  a Baptist pastor had cheated, for he had short circuited the elders, deacons church selection process, he had the nominating committee first, before any  selection submit the names to him for his prior approval of their supposedly spiritual qualifications and he thus by thes emans had elected his bad friends.. one Sunday evening as I was leaving the church and shaking hands with the pastor, he unexpectedly said to me ” this is my church and if you do not like it get out”.. shocked and surprised I said to the pastor if I have offended you let me meet you now this week Tuesday night and you can bring any two witnesses you want as well and we can discuss the matter. So he agreed and I knew that he would bring the head elder and the head deacons.. as I walked into the pastor’s office on Tuesday day night, the founding church pastor said immediately to me wipe the smirk of your face.. so I immediately said.. hey pastor let us also now make this quick, “Did you or did you not say to me this is my church and if you do not like it get out?” And  you should have seen the shock on the deacon and elder’s faces. The pastor seeing this too next said you cannot hear any charges from this man for I am a senior and if you listen to him I will resign. I said “Pastor if you want to resign, do so, but cut of the emotional black main and answer the question”.. he resigned instead, and became a life insurance salesman rather next..
 
But now I still had a problem with the crooked head elder of South Calgary Community Church   so I tried to first talk to him about his immoral acts and lack of spirituality, he admitted to me that he had no time to read the Bible even.. but it was useless to talk to him for he laughed me off. So next the elder came to see me and said “you know when you told everyone about my lack of spirituality it did not bother me, it was your word against mine, but when you next had put it in writing to all to see it hurt”.. and I said back to him.. “is that what it takes to cause you to rightfully repent?” seems people tend to believe the truth only if it is in wring these days.. and ever since that day I have also next been posting unacceptable, unrepented of sins of many, many a bad  pastors and elder on the  net but  few of them next repented, less than 5 percent next, some of them even moved rather out of town instead.. and many were rightfully fired next. The next few churches I went to now were not any better..
   
(Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
 
(Gal 6:2 KJV)  Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
 
(Gal 6:3 KJV)  For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
 
(Gal 6:4 KJV)  But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
 
(Gal 6:5 KJV)  For every man shall bear his own burden.
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
 
(Gal 6:8 KJV)  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
(Gal 6:9 KJV)  And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
 
(Gal 6:10 KJV)  As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
 
(Lev 19:17 KJV)  Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
 
(Psa 104:7 KJV)  At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
 
(Prov 9:8 KJV)  Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
 
(Prov 13:1 KJV)  A wise son heareth his father’s instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.
 
(Prov 24:25 KJV)  But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
 
(Eccl 7:5 KJV)  It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
 
(Isa 66:15 KJV)  For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
 
(Jer 15:15 KJV)  O LORD, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke.
 
(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
 
(Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 
(1 Tim 5:1 KJV)  Rebuke not an elder, but entreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
 
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
 
(2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
 
(Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
 
(Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
Now can a bad pastor rightfully  fire a good or bad deacon, meaning often a non functioningg , pretentious elder?
 
Bad people try to do many things.. if others let them do it as well..
 
Bad pastors, bad elders continue to exist  cause likely the congregation is bad too.  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
 
I have yet to see a Bible verse saying the local church is solely to be run by one man, one pastor too.. for that matter! and not the elders of that Church..
 
 
 
We all do even  need to seriously know, differentiate between how God now deals with the wicked, those persons deliberately disobedient to him, he God does not go along with them for sure .. God’s grace of forgiveness even does not extend to everyone..
 
and next the righteous those people who put their trust in him.. God is merciful, kind to them, but not all professing Christians now are righteous for sure as well.
 
  
Here also  is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..
 
I was really, really surprised as to how many persons lie, are being lied to in life, in churches..
 

(Josh 22:22 KJV)  The LORD God of gods, the LORD God of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion, or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,)

(1 Sam 15:23 KJV)  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

(Prov 17:11 KJV)  An evil man seeketh only rebellion: therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him.

(Jer 28:16 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the LORD.

(Jer 29:32 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will punish Shemaiah the Nehelamite, and his seed: he shall not have a man to dwell among this people; neither shall he behold the good that I will do for my people, saith the LORD; because he hath taught rebellion against the LORD.

 (Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28  They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.

 

Typical Liberal Attacks on Conservatives!! or another Cover up!

 

Buy Ontario wines: Premier Toronto Star –   Liberal Premier Dalton McGuinty says he’s open to ways to promote Ontario wineries better, even as he remains reluctant to consider beer and wine sales in corner stores.
Ethanol outlook bumpy Toronto Sun
McGuinty rethinking ethanol program Globe and Mail
Ottawa Citizen – The Canadian Press – London Free Press – CTV.ca
all 73 news articles »
   
and of course he will also encourage alcoholism, gays, lesbians, gambling  and abortion, and also now what next pot, pornography, adultery, divorce?
  
 and he cannot understand why the economy of Ontario is going down under his leadership.. wow?
 
a bad Liberal is as bad as a bad Conservative.. this premier now sounds more like the Alberta clown Ralph Klein everyday too!

The single biggest number of opposition, complaints for the thousands of my different posts that I have next gotten back from both Conservatives and Liberals, is when I rightfully write that smoking is a sin, so is adultery and divorce, doing drugs is sinful, porn is sinful, and using any taxpayers money to buy alcohol now is unacceptable as well. The Objections come even from even from the so called Conservative Christians.. what a surprise! And their quoting Bible verses out of context too often too… such as 1 Timothy 5:23 as a supposed justification now for drunkenness, alcoholics in the church, elswhere is an absurd perversion and it is still too showing us all what false sprits they are being led by, not ny the holy Spirit for sure… and any who says there is a problem solely with the pentacostals is a liar, distorter, basher now  too.. for most conservative fundamentals have just as much or often more theological errors, divisions, disputes, falsehoods it seems still too.. Too many Conservative evangelicals seem to falsely substitute preaching to others, or bashing the others for them firstly and wrongfully not living the Gospel of Jesus Christ still too

Hey I have not only been bashed, bullied by elected politicians, bad Conservatives now too, and 6 times the really bad politicians in Canada had now called the police against me for my writing to them and to the others, done basically to try to falsely intimidate me, to obstruct justice, and to try to stop me writing anymore truths to news editors, others.. but decades later I am still writing to all too the truth.. One Liberal also now had sent the police against me too and falsely.. clearly the bad guys hate it when you tell the truth about them to others.. and too bad for them.. and many bad pastors had asked me not to write to them anymore too now, for what they think they are the only one who can ask others to repent/ I often do ask them to repent instead rightfully still too.

I find it so funny how the left has NO problem bashing, mocking and making fun of folks who are Conservatives. But what is just as funny  how the Conservatives themselves practise censorship of what they do not want to hear so to me any bashings of Liberals, Conservatives  this is just another example of the kettle calling the pot black… for they basically do the same bad things these days it seems too.

http://thetruthtracker.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/typical-liberal-attacks-on-conservatives/#comment-16 

thenonconformer said, on July 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

but there is no difference between a bad Conservative and a bad Liberal in fact, anyway

I spent half of my life supporting the mostly lying, hypocritical, carnal, selfish, uncaring, bullying, control freaks, ungodly conservatives and when I firsthand saw again what they were really a decade ago I admit I do like rather an honest liberal

http://groups.msn.com/CanadaToday6
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>> Hello nonconformer thanks for visiting the site. I just ask that if you are going to take the time to show and express your disagreement with my opinions (which is fine with me), that you make an effort to use grammer and phrases easier to understand.

and to me this sounds the beginning next of an excuse for the too often Conservative censorships I experience in Conservatives churches, on the net too by those that I write about and expose often.. grammar, speller checkers, thought police next ehh?

I have been bloging for 20 years and the most abusive oppositions were mostly the Conservatives too.

>> First of all, the problems with Pentecostal and Charismatic Christianity…
 
says the devil..
 
such a loaded, biased, distorted false statement still firstly indicates more bad things solely ABOUT  the poster  AND not any of the Pentecostals.. and anyone who thinks this still is a Bonaire, valid post  are grossly mistaken too
 
and quoting Bible verses  out of context too often too… such as 1Timothy 5:23 as a  supposed justification now for drunkenness, alcoholics in the church is an absurd perversion andit   is still too showing us all what false sprits they are being led by, not the holy Spirit for sure… who says there is a problem  solely with the pentacostals.. most fundamentals have just as much or often more theological errors, divisions, disputes, falsehoods it seems till too.. evangelicals seem to falsely substitute preaching to others, bashing the others for not living the Gospel of Jesus Christ still too
 
(1 Cor 1:10 KJV)  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
 
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV)  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
 
(1 Cor 11:18 KJV)  For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19   For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. 20  When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper. 21  For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.  22  What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.
 
isn’t is still amazing how  many of these so called professing Christians now cannot even give up smoking, alcohol, beer and what else?  for the lord Jesus Christ.. then they have not died to Christ yet but are wrongfully living to the flesh still too
 
but  there has always been an ungodly holy war between the unspiritual carnal persons and the holy spirit filled Christian persons so this is nothing new.. the carnal flesh opposes the spirit, the work of God often.
 

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/alberta-the-devils-belt/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/how-many-rich-people-in-calgary-edmonton-alberta/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/the-bad-critics-again/

 What is the diference between a young conservative and an an old Conservative? Hopefully a wiser and more compassionate  liberal.

ps:The Conservitve Prime Minister of Canada lies often, for he does not keep his pre elrction promises.,, including

“Midland Free Press – Ontario, CA Blast from the past In opposition, Stephen Harper criticized the Liberal government for inaction when gas prices approached $1 a litre Stanton says government can’t do much more    After criticizing the previous Liberal government for not taking more action to control skyrocketing fuel prices when it was in power, frustrated Canadians are wondering what the Conservatives are doing to help now that the shoe is on the other foot.  “The government can’t do much more than it’s doing right now,” Conservative Simcoe North MP Bruce Stanton said.  During a 2005 election speech in Orillia, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper attacked the Liberals for allowing gas prices to spin out of control.  “When Harper was in opposition, he indicated that above a certain level the GST shouldn’t rise anymore. Higher gas prices shouldn’t invoke higher gain for the government. By lowering GST, what he’s done is lowered the price of everything across the board, instead of just fuel,” Stanton said.  Tax on gas consists of ten cents per litre in excise tax and 14.5 cents per litre goes to the province.  In the fall of 2007, GST dropped from seven per cent down to five per cent.  “We took some steps last fall to put money back into the pockets of Canadians. There is some worry that the price of gas will cause inflation, but our economy is strong,” Stanton said. According to Stanton, Canadian income levels are higher than they were three years ago.  The Liberal Party of Canada announced their plan of action for the environment and the economy last month.  The Green Shift plan is intended to cut income taxes and put a price on pollution.  “The Liberal Green Shift will cut taxes on those things we all want more of, such as income, investment and innovation, and shift those taxes to what we all want less of: pollution, greenhouse gas emissions and waste,” Liberal Leader Stephan Dion said.  Upon forming a government, Liberals would put a price on fossil fuels, like coal and natural gas, starting at $10 per tonne of carbon dioxide and rising to $40 per tonne over four years. http://www.midlandfreepress.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1106195

and that was more conservative crap response for  in reality the cost of living has seriously increased the last few months in Canada, the price of many food items now has increased dramtically over 25 percent and some even much more..

 The Conservatives lying had said  elect us and we will be different from the other parties.. dream on…  next the reality was, is otherwise..  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/dream-on/

Liberal Pierre Elliot Trudeau was Canada’s most popular recent Prime Minister even because he had done this one right thing.. to keep the automotive and heating  gas, oil prices fair, low. .. and in spite of the false opposition.. he nationalized the energy industry, oil and gas sector, and it is time for this for sure again now..
 
Liberal Dion chides PM for ‘vulgar’ language    Canwest News Service Published: Monday, July 07, 2008  EDMONTON – Liberal Leader Stephane Dion chided Prime Minister Stephen Harper Monday for using “vulgar” language in his dismissal of the Liberal climate change plan. Dion told the Edmonton Journal editorial board that he was disappointed in Harper’s choice of words when he suggested the Liberal plan would “screw” the country.

and the same Conservative  PM and Liberals still do allow Bell Sympatico to screw their customers still.. so all of you get real..  your real actions speak louder than your mere words

THE ONGOING EARTHLY, SPIRITUAL BATTLE IS AN UNDENIABLE FACT

  
(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 
 
Do you care about being classifed as a castaway by God? Apostle Paul did!
 
 (1 Tim 6:12 KJV)  Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. 13  I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession; 14   That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
 
I agree that the Bible clearly says our ongoing Christian walk is a daily spiritual battle with Satan, and sadly with some other of Satan’s followers, men and women too. We are to continually chose God’s way and not Satan, and not rather to give in to the devil, and then falsely justify it.
 
(Acts 7:51 KJV)  Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
 
(2 Tim 3:8 KJV)  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
 
(James 4:7 KJV)  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
 
I continue to get, read grossly unrespectable, unacceptable  absurd,  false Responses, and  false justifications from  people and supporters of those who have wrongfully  indulged into sins of drugs, smoking, alcohol, stealing or what ever all of my life even from even liars, professing Christians, ongoing church goers, all persons whose minds, habits  now are rather controlled by Satan clearly as well, Now supporting such bad acts, habits, persons makes you in fact an unacceptable accomplice in these matters too.
 
YOU ARE STILL KNOWN BY WHAT YOU DO NOW.
 
(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 
(Luke 6:43 KJV)  For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 
(Mat 7:19 KJV)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

(Mat 7:21 KJV)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

(Luke 10:17 KJV)  And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

(Rom 8:7 KJV)  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

(1 Pet 5:5 KJV)  Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.

(Prov 27:6 KJV)  Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

(Eccl 7:5 KJV)  It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

(Eccl 7:6 KJV)  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

Mr. Spurgeon should have practice what he preached firstly for he could not give up his sin of smoking a cigar even. And too many other pastors did not and could not give up alcohol, drunkenness, adultery, cheating, lying stealing,, and what else?  Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices. Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Why are alcoholics always in denial? and why do they often lie,  cheat, steal also now? Because if they do admit the truth they are alcoholics, sinners too  they do have now to repent of the sin of disobeying God’s word about being drunk too.. so they take the ostrich denial approach instead too often. Alcoholism still is a sin of a deliberate, personal choice, and to be set free you have to admit your sin, confess it, renounce it, ask God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ as well.. It is not only wrong for the average person it is also especially wrong for leaders in the government, politicians. It is amazing how one can quickly spot an alcoholic, while they cannot still see their sin, and how quick they are to oppose themselves being exposed now too..
 
I admit I had lost all respect for the supposedly great preacher Spurgeon who was so ready to preach to others about their sins, but he himself now could not resist  the Temptation of a cigar.  Similar we find out that other preachers could not give up smoking too.. Look at this reference in regard to AB Simpson, the past founder of the Christian Missionary Alliance denomination now too.  “The Man, the movement, and the mission-A documentary of the C&MA”  Cut directly from their national web site. It was the custom for the ministers of the district to meet together to discuss all things common. This little reunion, in its proper sequence, was held one day at the Manse. And unaccountably strange odor of tobacco smoke began to steal upstairs. Suddenly the study door flew open and a towering figure of fury – all of four feet, one inch in its stocking feet – stood at the threshold. “SMOKING! Out of this house!” said Grannie Simpson, and in a body the ministerial association moved.  https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=15796002&postID=3424830162204895882     http://reversion-clause.com/

(Eccl 7:7 KJV)  Surely oppression maketh a wise man mad; and a gift destroyeth the heart.

(Eccl 7:8 KJV)  Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.

(Eccl 7:9 KJV)  Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

Genuine Born Again even Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices. And if you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s  bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that  drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men. . Not one cent of taxpayer’s money should be ever used in the governments, civil  and public servants, expense accounts  to buy alcohol, wine  or beer.
 
Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, Christians they seem to do the same things too. Why are alcoholics and smokers now too, sinners, always in denial? and why do they often lie,  cheat, steal also now? Because if they do admit the truth they are alcoholics, sinners too  they do have now to repent of the sin of disobeying God’s word about being drunk too.. so they take the ostrich denial approach instead too often. Alcoholism still is a sin of a deliberate, personal choice, and to be set free you have to admit your sin, confess it, renounce it, ask God for forgiveness through Jesus Christ as well.. It is not only wrong for the average person it is also especially wrong for leaders in the government, politicians. It is amazing how one can quickly spot an alcoholic, while they cannot still see their sin, and how quick they are to oppose themselves being exposed now too..

and what other pastoral, supposedly acceptable Christian  vices now are now being PERMITTED falsely today,  the handing out of beer, wine, alcoholic beverages, playboy, pornography, acts of cheating, lying, stealing, STEALING THE TITHES, adultery, tax evasions still? WE ALL DO NEED to have a right attitudes, WALK WITH JESUS CHRIST  EVEN  all of leaders, pastors, elders too, and they have to lead by a good personal example too.
 
Even the most anointed man or woman, preacher  of God clearly still can be wrong, biased, have a hidden agenda, limited, (or just shallow) in their understanding or interpretation of certain Bible topics, subjects. Do not believe any man or women, rather solely Take God’s word for it.
 
We all should by now know that alcoholism is a terrible sin  that now damages the person’s brain, affects their ability  to work, to drive a car, and negatively affects their own behavior and affects many others too. The same reality is true of one taking now bad drugs as well. So I was also similarly shocked, surprised to discover the the falsely professing evangelical Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, and he buys it for others as well. Beyond a Biblical doubt the Genuine Born Again Evangelicals are total abstainers, like me, I never drink or touch wine or alcohol, at any time, nor do I give playboy, pornography, wine or wine glasses to anyone.
 
““Dr. Daniel Akin, President of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary has written an article in favor of the famous Resolution #5 (Resolution calling for total opposition to alcohol). Alcohol is the number one drug problem among teenagers. (1 Cor. 8:13; 9:19-22; 10:32-33). Because I am an example to others, I will make certain no one ever walks the road of sorrow called alcoholism because they saw me take a drink and assumed, “if it is alright for him it is alright for me.” No, I will choose to set an uncompromising example of abstinence because I love them.  I will seek my joy and filling in the Spirit not in alcohol. I love the Phillips translation of Ephesians 5:18 which reads, “Don’t get your stimulus from wine (for there is always the danger of excessive drinking), but let the Spirit stimulate your souls.” Psalm 4:7-8 adds, “You [O Lord] have put more joy in my heart than they have when their grain and wine abound. In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.”  There is no record that Jesus drank strong drink,  As a pastor or church leader, would I demand abstinence for  leadership? Absolutely! The principle of Proverbs 31:4-5 is appropriately applied here, “It is not for Kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.” “
 
(1 Cor 11:28 KJV)  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. (Prov 3:33 KJV)  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

 
Jesus himself had said that professing to be a Christian is not enough,  one rather can  tell what a person is really like by what he does,  a True Christian is one who evidently is controlled by the Spirit of God and not by  self, sin, a real Christian is one where thus anyone can clearly see by the evidence of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, including even self control.

Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart];

Gal 5:23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].

Matt 7:16 You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?17 Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit. 18 A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].  19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits.  1 Tim 3:2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation {but} must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect {and} temperate {and} self-controlled; [he must be] sensible {and} well behaved {and} dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable {and} qualified teacher,

Alcoholics, wine drinkers, smokers, drug users, cheaters, liars, slandereres, absuers, liars, tax evaders  too they all  tend to have evidentially lost their self control..

I have often rightfully said to many preachers I would rather see them first by example live the life of Christ instead of merely preaching it others.  Preaching the Gospel is not an valid alternative to living it.  I even do know People who profess to be Christians and they are Alcoholics too.. but they are not Christians… They fool themselves only as to who they still really are too.

By their own fruits Jesus said to us all you can tell what they are really like still.

..(Prov 16:25 KJV)  There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

(Mat 7:20 KJV)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
 
 > I did not know that smoking is a sin?

Impaired means  when Mental awareness, alertness and function do also come under a dulling, slowing effect. This hinders our mental ability in everyday activity and restricts or cuts off our mental fellowship with the Holy Spirit speaking to our mind from our spirit. A person who has the smoking or drinking habit, in honesty, must label themselves an “addict” too. in bondage to Satan and the flesh and the lust thereof. Alcoholism, Smoking, lying, stealing, slander  is demonic, which is why it is so hard to stop on your own and they all are  not compatible with the Christian experience.  These sinful  problems are next forcing negative consequences on other “innocent” people  Co-workers, family and even  children are victims .  Christians are definitely thus not to be “stumbling blocks” to others.  Matthew 18: 6, 7, “But who so shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offenses! For it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh!”
 
Also smoking is “burning incense to other (demon) gods”. II Kings 22:17, II Kings 23:5; II Chronicles 28:25, 34:24, 34:25; Jeremiah 1:16, 7:9, 11:12, 19:4; Chapter 44, 48:35.
 
To receive complete freedom from these sinful  bondages, the Believer must see his “habit” or being “hooked” as a spiritually rooted problem and confess it as a deliberate sin of Disobedience to God too. Acknowledging lust, Alcohol, tobacco, cigarettes, drugs, lying, stealing, marijuana  and smoking as sin is prerequisite. Personal Confession of the sin according to (1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10   If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.and we all must choose to submit to God according to (James 4:7 KJV)  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8  Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9  Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10   Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
 
next , places the Believer on proper ground for the unclean spirits to be cast out of them
 
and whether Smoking it is legal or not legal basically is not the issue in the sight of God.. but when you clearly have lost self control,  it also alters your judgment and your ability to perceive reality. on top of that you now are a prisoner to a bad habit of smoking , the very clear source of the bad habit is the devil now as well and not God.. and if you cannot see this it is either cause you do not want to or are in false denial… Half of the world knows that smoking cigarettes even is bad for you, it is a vice, and  it causes cancer, linked to gum disease, destroys the body and you did not realize it was sinful? either you are lying to me, lying yourself others or you are being deliberate ignorant. Smoking is not without potential real negative consequences and yes anyone would be an absolute fool not to factor that truth now as well . One cannot honestly claim to be using alcohol, smoking or marijuana for any purpose other than to falsely intoxicate oneself. to lose self control. One is not getting you closer to God by being intoxicated , but moving you away from Him. You’re doing the weed for YOURSELF, serving the sinful sinful self, the flesh now in reality. You are to die to self, the flesh and all of it’s lust thereof  as a Christian now still too. The ends do not justify now the mans still as well.
 
 1 Corinthians  10:31 (King James Version)   Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
 
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 (King James Version) 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
 
Christians are always to remain SOBER too. 1 Thessalonians 5:8 (King James Version) 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. Sober, obedient and not given to lusts of the flesh. 1 Peter 1:13-14 (King James Version)  13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
 
Ephesians 5:11-21 (King James Version) 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them  12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms.