Avoid such people.

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But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.  2 Timothy 3:1-7

 Self-love: “Inordinate regard for self to the neglect of others and indifference to their needs. In narcissism the attention is centered on the body, especially sexual self-satisfaction.”  They have a need to be kept amused, entertained like little children now too..

“Pathological narcissism is characterized by at least five of the following characteristics:

A need for constant attention and admiration

A sense of entitlement

Interpersonally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends)

Lack of empathy (is unwilling or unable to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others)

Envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

An arrogant and haughty behavior or attitude

A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

A belief that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people”

Most Marriage today now tend to  tend be narcissistic with the  spouses  still mostly   seeking constant admiration or success to fill their  voids. For some reasons like the job stress, alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, lack of spiritual maturity, physical disability, lack of parenting skills, self-centered immaturity, etc. the narcissistic family revolves around getting the parents’ desires and needs met rather than also meeting the needs of the children. The Biblical pattern of parents meeting their children’s needs is reversed here..  Jesus  Christ  himself  does not  fit into their family still..

“Narcissists are proud and they are sinful—as we all are. But they aren’t just proud and just sinful. Pathological narcissism  is a personality style that is deeply rooted in the structure of the entire personality from the first few years of life. It too often still cannot be overcome by simply confessing one’s sins but not  committing to change. For many Growing out of narcissism is a long, slow, difficult, hardship filled life painful  process that may take years. As “Narcissistic personalities typically seek treatment only when their sense of specialness or invincibility is threatened through a major life crisis…. “”

“To love like Christ, there is no room for self-love. Well, one cannot embrace oneself  and have one’s  arms outstretched  to embrace her neighbor at the same time. Love for self exists, only because God loves His creation. Thus, we care for what He has created. To go beyond this, one becomes a Narcissus, who loves his own reflection when opportunity for greater, more enduring Love,  stands by weeping.  Philosophies and mindsets, antithetical to the mind of Christ, are not only innate to the flesh but are satanic expressions of the world system.  These narcissistic mindsets or worldviews are doors through which the demonic operates, influencing the minds of men thus directing the rhythm of life. Only demonic people still are mainly  self centered  Recall the ancient myth of Narcissus. The lovely boy catches sight of his countenance in a pool and falls enamored of himself. But he does not then leave the pool to boast of himself wherever he can, as foolish and proud as that might be. Instead, he loses all genuine connection between himself and other living creatures by perpetually admiring his reflection. Narcissism does not expand the soul, but rather contracts it …”


 1 Corinthians 5
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Ephesians 5
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2 Corinthians 6
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

And what is your false excuse in still dealing with the bad persons? There is none!

1 Corinthians 3:21 “Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;”

2 Corinthians 4:5 “For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.”

John 7:18 “He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.”

“For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.” 1 Corinthians 2:2

Galatians 6:14 “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.”

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12

do see also https://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/jesus-has-set-me-free/

The false refusal to repent

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Mat 15:8  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
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It may seem to be natural but most persons tend to take an ostrich approach when confronted  with their own real  need to deal with the much to many personal sins, unacceptable negatives values in their own life but nevertheless it does lead to one facing some very serious personally negative consequences next anyway
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Many even professing Christian persons are falsely  still  relying on isolated verses out of thousands to support their imaginary eternal forgiveness,  salvation,  to the false exclusions of the rest  of the Bible.
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Merely Believing waht the Bible says still is not salvation,; There is a serious realy big difference: between a mere 1) mental assents to Jesus being the Son of God, the sole provision for the forgiveness of all of man’s sins vs. 2) to believe all that he Jesus also commands us all and advises us to do— ie. to realy obey Him. Even the demons now do  believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and they tremble; and that is not eneough, for  we must not believe in Him, Jesus Christ , but we all must daily believe and do continually all what He tells us to do till the end.;
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But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. James 1:22
◦Now is our salvation nearer than when we first believed. Rom 13:11
◦Continue to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Phil 2:12
◦But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation. 1 Thes 5:8
◦For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing; but to us who are being saved the cross is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18.
◦Godly sorrow produces repentance that leads to salvation. 2 Cor 7:10
◦Do not grieve the holy Spirit of God, by whom you are sealed unto the day of redemption. Eph 4:30
◦For we are the sweet aroma of Christ unto God, to those who are being saved. 2 Cor 2:15
◦We are made partakers of Christ, if we hold firm the beginning of our confidence to the end. Heb 3:14
◦For you need endurance in order to do God’s will, so that after you may receive the promise. Heb 10:36
◦We desire that every one of you show the same diligence in realizing the full assurance of hope to the end.
So that you are not slothful, but followers of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises. Heb 6:11-12;
Sadly still for most persons There is no fear of God before their eyes. Rom 3:1
Indeed, to them you are like a very lovely song of one who has a pleasant voice and can play well on an instrument,for they hear your words but they do not do [obey] them. Eze 33:32
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Jesus had said to first seek the  the Kingdom of God and His righteousness;
1 Sam 15:22  And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.  23  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
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To believe is to obey; if you are not obedient, your belief is only the hypocrites’ lip service. Obedience leads to receiving the Holy Spirit — Obedience leads to righteousness — Obedience leads to salvation.;
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Jesus said: all who sin [practice lawlessness] will be gathered out of His Kingdom and cast into the fire, where there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:41-42
Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?
But the person who hears and does not put my words into practice, is like a man who built a house upon the earth without a foundation;.. and the ruin of that house was great. Luke 6:46-49;
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To personally have God Son Jesus Christ dwelling in you is to also possess the Son and Father in your heart in a sufficient measure that he is your true Lord directing your thoughts, words and deeds, thus becoming become free from all wrong doings, sin.;
For this purpose the Son of God is revealed [in us], that he might destroy [in us] the works [sin] of the devil. 1 John 3:8;
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Unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3,5
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And that repentance and release from bondage of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.;Luke 24:47
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For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and how to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;….that he might redeem us from all iniquity [lawless deeds, sin], and purify for himself a people who are his very own, zealous for good works. Tit 2:11-14.;
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Personal Repentance is an onward, daily event.But sadly too often inward cross of self-denial has been forgotten, dismissed, ignored, and treated with contempt; yet Jesus told us repeatedly that no one can be his disciple, or is worthy of him, without carrying their cross and following him.;
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All Scripture is Given by Inspiration of GOD, and is Profitable for Doctrine, for Reproof, for Correction, for Instruction in Righteousness:  That the man of GOD may be Perfect, Thoroughly Furnished unto All Good Works.~2 Timothy 3:16-17~♥~
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Too many of Today’s ministers have eyes full of adultery, [love of money, not God], who cannot cease from sin, beguiling unstable souls; they have exercised their hearts in covetous practices, they are cursed children. They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness… For whom black darkness is reserved. For speaking great swelling words of vanity, they lure through the lusts of the flesh and much wantonness, those who were barely escaping from those who live in error. While they promise them freedom, they themselves are servants of corruption; for by whatever a man is overcome, he is enslaved. 2 Peter 2:12-19.;
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Like the Pharisees, too many of today’s ministers shut the kingdom of heaven against men; for they neither go in themselves, nor do they allow those who are entering to go in. Mat 23:13
Like the Pharisees, too many of today’s ministers like to walk about in long robes and love to be greeted [with honor] in places where people congregate and love the best seats in the synagogues and places of honor at feasts.

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Like the Pharisees, too many today’s ministers outwardly seem to people to be just and upright but inside they are full of pretense and lawlessness and iniquity [sin], and grasping self-indulgence. They feed themselves while fleecing the sheep; and they are greedy dogs who can never have enough; they are shepherds who cannot understand; they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 
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Micah 3:5  Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him. Micah 3:6  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. Micah 3:7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners…confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. Micah 3:8  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. Micah 3:9  Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity. Micah 3:10  They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity. Micah 3:11  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us. Micah 3:12  Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest. Micah 4:1  But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. Micah 4:2  And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. Micah 4:3  And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Micah 4:4  But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it. Micah 4:5  For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever..
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1 John 2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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Jer 15:18  Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, which refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail? 19  Therefore thus saith the LORD, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them. 20  And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brazen wall: and they shall fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the LORD.
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Gal 2:19  For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. Gal 2:20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal 2:21  I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Gal 3:1  O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? Gal 3:2  This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal 3:3  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Gal 3:4  Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. Gal 3:5  He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal 3:6  Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

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Mat 7:24  Therefore whosoever  25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: :27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. —
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About those hirelings now fleecing the sheep

In fact, most Evangelical Sheep do not believe they can go to hell, and they are not saved, less than 30 percent are even, as a direct result they  these days do not believe that Man has a fallen nature since Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden. Yes this  is mostly a direct result of the devil, and the Humanistic Psychology Self-Esteem Movement of the past four decades with its emphasis on the Basically Good Nature of Man and the good nature of God. And the false shepherds told them all of these lies that they the sheep  wanted to hear to get their money.  As a result, there exists still  a pervasive corrupted view that “man is basically good but he occasionally screws up.” This Humanistic error enables this very  Fatal Fraud – that all of the Shepherds are good, and they only have the best interests of Sheep at heart. For Sheep this is a Dangerous and Deadly Deception since undeniable Many shepherds are hirelings and they have never ever been called by God personally into the Ministry, at least 70 percent of the shepherds are false as those in the Ministry quickly find out firsthand ..
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Follow the Money trail”, ONE OF THE OLDEST RULES OF NEWS JOURNALISM AS WELL
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 MOST PEOPLE ARE GULLIABLE,
IN FACT SOME SAY THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTES,
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-The Popular Handbook on the Rapture:
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Many people think that the end times  biblical prophecies about the end of the world and the Battle of Armageddon are  You know, for  the weirdoes, religious fanatics ,  societal oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life ahead of  them and falsely now do look for an escape from it. The Basic problem also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still..
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ISN’T THE LOVE OF MONEY, THEIR FILTHY GREED   IT IS VERY EVIDENT OF THESE SO CALLED PREACHERS, OR HIRELINGS WHO PROMOTE GOD’S SUPPOSED TRUTHS FOR MONEY?
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 Now don’t you think that something spiritually important as this, so essential as this, would be available freely to all rather.
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 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says about these God given, Holy Spirit equipped, gifted men, offices to the Christian Church Universal by God, so they too are ignorant, they do not know, they are even confused about the role that they all should play.    Because they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too. 
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Follow the Money trail”, ONE OF THE OLDEST RULES OF NEWS JOURNALISM AS WELL
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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the  pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well.
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Many people have OFTEN conveyed to me that they are dismayed that there are  Crooks still  in the church as well? And they ask why the clearly bad pastors and bad pastors allow these crooks to remain in their midst.  Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you what you are like yourself now too..
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It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches  that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock. As a result many of them falsely resort to a dictatorial, abusive or hierarchy church structure and they demand falsely AND  force submission, and of course they even abuse their flock… they do now even cheat, lie, steal, slander, wrongfully counsel divorce.. . many people are surprised at this and do not know what to do.. Recognize, admit the sad truth and shout their sins from the housetops. They are not real, loving shepherds called by God..    
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Some  falsely seem to think that just cause a person  professes to be good person, a follower of Christ that he or she is to be believed now and that they  will do good and not bad.. How easily they also do forget about the Judas type persons, those persons who love money the root of all evil, and the things money can supposedly buy for them, sell themselves for money to the devil,  but their mostly stolen too money it does not buy permanent happiness for even them.. Nor do most people who win lotto find permanent happiness, but rather more misery it seems.
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But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others.  
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Have you ever wondered how some pastors start a church and then become wealthy living in flash houses and driving luxury cars? So how they do it, extracting money from their congregations to fund their lifestyles. All decent Christian pastors would find these techniques repugnant.
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Like Judas reaching into the money bag, the sad reality is that too many of the Christian pastors steal from God’s people.
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Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. – 2 Corinthians 2:17a
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The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing even the Judas Iscariot is noted in history as the one who betrayed Him (Jesus). Yet Judas was first numbered among the Twelve apostles (Luke 6:13, 22:3; Acts 1:16-17 numbered with us), “chosen” by Christ Himself, so how next did the “Apostle Judas” became also the traitor? What drove him to his immoral acts. The reality is that he had never died to self or to the love of money too.
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Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. 
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Jesus kicked out the money changes out of the temple for these wolfs in sheep’s clothing have been a blight on Christianity throughout its history. The strategy of the losers, the false Hirelings, false Prophets, is still their false pursuit of power, fame, money. “With all this being said, they take message and build a real Kingdom business and they package it and collect money form the related information, music, preaching service, copyrights . They find different modalities to sell as they write a book, produce a video or audio series, lead a webinar teaching series, seminar, or start a membership site. The much too many the tricks in making money for oneself is that they also become an affiliate, part of a mutual networking referral group, and thus this also give them a chance to make commission money from their peers
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I strongly support the existence of good church shepherds, good church pastors, good elders,  who visit their flock,  provide help to them, do  keep vigilance, guard over them and their good welfare, visit them in the Hospital too. These acts clearly distinguishes them from the much too many bad pastors, rather pastoral prostitutes or hirelings WE SEEM TO STILL ENCOUNTER EVEN THESE DAYS. * Bad men who were not chosen by God to be shepherds, but rather self appointed even for many wrong  reasons. And the term pastors in the Bible is rather a plural one meaning the local church should have many of them now too. Not just a false one man dictatorial ministry.
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AS To How TOO MANY Pastors, so called Christian leaders falsely now do TRY TO “Get Rich”.. cause they are hirelings, prostitutes.. just like Apostle Judas.. or Esau WHO sold his birthright..

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Mat 26:14  Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,  :15  And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.  16  And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him.

(Heb 12:16 KJV)  Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

 Jude 1:11  Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.  12  These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;  13  Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

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Bad churches and so called Christian  leaders,  bad pastors love to bash others, criticize other and to make false claims they are the best, special, different from all the rest. They also seem to often demand money for further support because they are despised, persecuted for proclaiming their truths, truths  which are mostly still lies, false hoods, distortions.

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LOOK at some of  these methods certain pastors use to get rich off God’s people.

The strategy of the losers, the  false Hirelings, false Prophets, is still their false pursuit of power, fame, money.   “With all this being said, they take  message and build a real Kingdom business and they   package it and collect money form the related  information, music, preaching service, copyrights . They find  different modalities to sell  as they  write a book, produce a video or audio series, lead a webinar teaching series, seminar, or start a membership site. The much too many the tricks in making money  for oneself is that they also become an affiliate, part of a mutual networking referral group, and thus this also give them a chance to make  commission money   from their peers

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Have you ever wondered how some pastors start a church and then become wealthy living in flash houses and driving luxury cars? So how they do it, extracting money from their congregations to fund their lifestyles. All decent Christian pastors would find these techniques repugnant.

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Like Judas reaching into the money bag, the sad reality is that too many of the Christian pastors steal from God’s people.

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Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. – 2 Corinthians 2:17a

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Jesus kicked out the money changes out of the temple for these wolfs in sheep’s clothing have been a blight on Christianity throughout its history.

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When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father’s house into a market!” – John 2:13-16

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The multilevel marketing approach. Example sell toothpaste or web sites or whatever, and then recruit people under you doing the same, taking a cut from their sales. Soon you may be so rich that you can buy a flash European car and maybe give stacks of money to Godly causes.

That dream of the dream’s leaders works solely  for the false leaders .Do you often see how rich our leaders are? They made all their money by following the false  dream they preach, saying next that you can too. Except, that it’s a curse upon you coming forth.

These leaders did not become wealthy by following the dream, instead they became wealthy by building up a group of people who believe passionately in the dream, and then selling dream-promoting wares to this captive audience.

They did not become rich by selling toothpaste; they became rich by hyping dream-promoting books, tapes, DVDs, and conferences to their own private market of dream believers. They become rich of the tax free donations..

This same pattern is practiced by some Christian leaders and their churches. The dream is the prosperity gospel. Their captive market is their congregation. The products are, well you guessed it: books, tapes, DVDs, and conferences, and t-shirts, and most ominously spiritual rewards and the prevention of spiritual punishments.

These leaders use their faked “success” to promote a distorted gospel which basically says: “tow the line obeying the leaders buying whatever we tell you to buy, and donate money whenever we tell you to donate, and then God will pour riches into your life.” They tell us that they became successful by following this dream, but in reality they became rich by sucking money out of those caught up in the buzzing environment where this distorted gospel seems real. You can see man crooks like this even these day who falsely line their pockets with money that ought to have stayed with God’s people or gone to legitimate good Christian works. Not to these these spiritual vampires, wolves..

The threatening sales pitch includes. “This is your spiritual home, you can’t go to another church. You must be loyal.” But the Bible does not teach that Christians are bound to their local church organization, this idea is foreign to Scripture. We are only bound to Jesus Christ

Their Books. The first product is the leader’s book (often ghostwritten and fraudulently claimed to be authored by the leader). These books would tank on Amazon or in a real bookstore, but hyped to their captive market they sell like hot cakes.

Next comes the ever popular DVD videos, tapes. Most of which are videos of the leader preaching in his church on a certain topic. Let me ask you a question, is it ethical for a leader who has been paid by his church to prepare and deliver a sermon, to then take that performance and sell it back to his own church members for a healthy profit?

But, these DVDs are hyped and hyped, and the captive audience buy stacks of them. In the worst money hungry churches you’re expected to buy them, and it is noticed if you don’t.

Hyped Conferences The hype for these conferences start months before hand. Other church members look at you strangely if you are thinking about not going. What, you can’t afford the huge entry fee? What’s wrong with you, don’t you love God? Don’t you want to be blessed? Don’t you want to be successful and wealthy? Don’t you want to be part of us? Because you won’t be, unless you go to THE CONFERENCE!

And Jesus had conferences too, don’t forget, like the Sermon on the Mount, where He charged, oh, he didn’t charge anything for that spiritual teaching. In fact it was free wasn’t it? Hmmm.

And why are they so expensive? Where does all that money go? Well,

There is a Christian speaking circuit, just like there is a motivational speaking circuit. The circuit has no formal structure like say a football league, but rather is like an exclusive network or an old boys club.

It is unbelievable what some of these speakers expect from the Body of Christ. I would not like to be in their shoes if they finally meet our Lord,

Businesses like: bookshops. The bookshop is the most common, often located inside the church itself.

Members in the church who show loyalty to their pastor’s businesses are rewarded, often with increased standing in the church. Members who refuse to use the pastor’s businesses are frowned upon.

The Honor The Pastor Scam To get more favor the inner-ring will employ many favor-currying measures, one of which is a scam called “Honoring the Pastor”. It works this way, the inner-ring will figure out what the pastor would like, say for his birthday. Then the inner-ringers will squeeze the outer-ringers for the money to buy this item.

High Pressure Offerings Another way the pastor uses his inner-ring to extract cash, is via high pressure offering talks in the church services.

and in these churches the giving will not be in secret but people will be expected to come up the front so that everyone can see how much they give. Or people will be watched to see if they put anything in the offering container as it is passed down the aisles.

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. – 2 Corinthians 9:7

Cathedral Building Wars Like the cathedral building wars in the middle ages where cities and countries vied against each other to build the most impressive cathedral. T

Siphoning donations into one’s personal Property Is it ethical for the pastor (or his company or trust) to own property that the church is paying for? Of course not. Many pastors take property that was given to the church by persons who had died and keep it for themselves rather. I met a pastor who told me he as a result owned 5 homes now.

Another variation on this scam is the church trust is being used and controlled by the pastor and his family, and they practised tax evasions by having Church members falsely even pay for their own rents, personal electrical utilities and heating bills..

Some of these pastors are very clever in how they hide the money trail. But ultimately if church money is paying for an asset the pastor owns, except via his wages of course, then it is almost certainly wrong. Imagine the furor if a politician was caught siphoning off government money into property or assets owned by himself.

Excessive Wages I believe it is reasonable to assume that Paul the Apostle meant only fair wages, not excessive wages, and that Paul would have agreed with what Peter the Apostle wrote:

To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder, a witness of Christ’s sufferings and one who also will share in the glory to be revealed: Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, serving as overseers-not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. – 1 Peter 5:1-3

Obviously one of the ways greedy pastors can extract money from God’s people is via excessive wages. The amount of which they will often decide themselves, or have conferred on them by their sycophants (via the church board, or the church wages review committee, for example).

If your pastor refuses to be open about his wage then be very suspicious. It is likely he knows that the amount would be considered excessive. If it is excessive, then watch him dodge the issue like a sweaty politician.

Be even more suspicious whenever you hear a pastor’s wage being justified by comparing him to a CEO. If you hear this CEO nonsense then you can instantly know two things: first, the pastor’s wage is massive; second, you are being scammed. A pastor is not a CEO no matter how big his church empire is; a CEO runs a for monetary-profit organization, a pastors serves the people of God – they are not the same thing.

By the way, if the pastor claims to be a CEO, then you must be a shareholder. Shareholders have full rights to the accounts, including how much their “CEO” is earning.

Find out how much your pastor is paid. If he will not reveal the information then stop giving to that church until it is revealed. Especially stop if you hear any of this “CEO” rubbish.

Expensive leased cars, holidays, clothing allowances, spending money, restaurant meals, hotels, flights, and expense accounts, are some of the false perks demanded by these luxury smitten pastors.

Some say that if they are preaching the “prosperity gospel”, then they have to appear prosperous to “walk their talk”. But of course that is a deception. They are using God’s money to misrepresent how wealthy they are, to help prove their false teaching works. Despicable.

Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. – 2 Corinthians 4:2

What is worse, many of these churches make their members complicit in this deception. Members are instructed to wear expensive clothes and groom themselves in the manner expected of the rich. They are encouraged to buy (or lease) the most impressive car they can afford. Members are required to appear happy and successful. The excuse given is that the appearance of success breeds success, but this is nonsense, more likely it breeds significant debt. The real reason the leaders want their church members to appear successful is to trick others into thinking that the prosperity dream that they preach really works.

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many grief’s. – 1 Timothy 6:3-10

Nepotism A church isn’t a family business you know; it is a family, but it’s not a business. One church i went to had 28/31 positions held by relatives

Are the pastor’s relatives high up in the church? Are they the ones with the most powerful positions? Then that is nepotism. A good church will choose the very best people for the job, while a bad church will reward those closest to the pastor with the lucrative positions of power.

If you see nepotism, then that is a sign that something is very wrong.

Your Counter Strategy: expose it and stop giving to that church until the pastor’s little family fiefdom is disassembled.

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Fabricated Tithing Doctrine But Tithing is no no longer applicable..
Question this doctrine and watch these money hungry pastors bare their fangs. This is a teaching that they will bear no compromise on. Tithing, or at least their own version of tithing, is their one true love.

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The New Testament Church did not tithe.
The New Testament does not teach tithing for Christians.
Their favorite Malachi verses cannot be used for Christians since Christians are not under the law of Moses.
Abraham’s one off tithe of his war booty did not set up a precedent for Christians to regularly tithe their income.
The version of tithing they teach cannot be found in Scripture (see below).
The “Storehouse” in Malachi cannot be equated to your local church organization.
There are plenty of rich (money wise) Christians who do not tithe. This would be impossible if their version of tithing was true.
The New Testament teaching is that you decide how much to give, and there are no rules about where it goes. You cannot be compelled to give.

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It may come as a surprise to learn that their tithing doctrine is a combination of twisted scriptures and wishful thinking,

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“Christians must give ten percent of their gross income only to their church organization. If they do, then God will bless them for any offerings they make to the church organization beyond this ten percent. But if they do not give ten percent gross, then they are stealing from God and God will curse them.” is a great big lie still

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But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. – Romans 7:6

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know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. – Galatians 2:16

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All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” – Galatians 3:10

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New wine should not be put into old wine skins, nor should new unshrunk cloth be used to patch an old garment; if you think you need to obey the law of tithing then you need to obey the whole law (or you will be cursed, Galatians 3:10).

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What is more, this tithing doctrine they teach isn’t found in either the New or Old Testament. Tithing in the old testament does not match what these false pastors preach – People who collected tithes were not allowed to own tangible properties, such as cars, homes etc.. and in fact 1/7 of the tire was to be given to the local poor people which not tithing collecting pastors parties even

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Tip: Churches that push this erroneous tithing doctrine will often try to enforce tithing via written agreements (called covenants), and also by monitoring what people give (so they can compel them to give more if they are not meeting the ten percent target). First, grasp that these “covenants” are illegitimate and not worth the paper they are printed on, because they contain false doctrine (like tithing) and set up the pastors as a false authority over you. God would not be party to a covenant that contains falsehoods, therefore God was not party to the covenant you were pressured to sign, therefore you are free from this burden.

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Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. – 2 Corinthians 9:7

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These bad pastors are not only money hungry, but often power hungry too but even sex maniac due to their visible uncontrolled lusts now . They want to be both pastor and master. They commit the sin of the Pharisees and appoint themselves as middle men between God and you. They seek to replace the Holy Spirit in your life. They “lord it over” their flocks.

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Using the connection they claim to have with God they falsely do even threaten you with the stick of spiritual curses if you disobey them, and dangle the carrot of spiritual blessings if you comply. They seek to dominate your life; often implying that they have say in where you work, where you fellowship, who you marry, and of course, when, where, and how much you should give. Listen to them and you will be cursed.. will go crazy..

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This is a false spiritual authority not supported by Scripture. it is quite devilish (the desire to control and dominate others).I am a slave to no man or women.

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In these pastor’s prosperity teaching, obeying the pastor and giving money are the two pillars necessary for a successful Christian life. If you sit back and think about it, you will quickly see what a con it is all solei for their own benefit…

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These men want to be at the head of everything, they want to dominate you, they want to be seen as the big man, and some even secretly desire adoration (almost worship). This is the opposite of true Christian leadership: Sainthood.

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Also a dispute arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. Jesus said to them, “The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves. – Luke 22:24-27

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I call God as my witness that it was in order to spare you that I did not return to Corinth. Not that we lord it over your faith, but we work with you for your joy, because it is by faith you stand firm. – 2 Corinthians 1:23-24

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Jesus called them together and said, “You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. – Mark 10:42-44

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Apostle, Prophets, pastors Threatening people with curses if they do not obey or donate is not only false spiritual extortion but it is demonic and contrary to the nature of grace and the person of Jesus.

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Don’t be afraid of these men. Ignore their bluster. Grow a backbone and stand up to them.

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Sad that the cults and these money focused churches abound where these bad leaders, pastors see their congregation as farm animals to be milked.

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To summarize what we have learnt about the methods money hungry pastors use to feed off their flock: We discovered the multilevel marketing pattern that these often ex-salesmen (not theologians) model their churches. We examined some of the products they sell into their captive market like books and DVDs. We unhyped the hyped conferences, and expose the money hungry Christian speaking circuit. Next we talked about how spiritually dishonest pastors set up their own businesses that their followers are expected to patronize. After that came the scam of “honoring the pastor” with gifts of luxury items. We delved into the high pressure offering mini-sermons that are designed to guilt people into giving. We examined how most of the money gained is used to build the pastor’s modern day cathedrals, projects that their fragile egos demand. We exposed the scam of siphoning the church’s cash into properties and assets owned by the pastor. We covered the obvious points of excessive wages and extravagant perks, and that was followed by the not so obvious problem of nepotism. Their big daddy came second to last – their fabricated tithing doctrine was exposed for what it is, a fraud. Finally we discussed the spiritual carrot and stick of the false authority that the pastors claim.

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There are other methods these guys use to extract money from churches. However there are some good churches who do not practice these methods.Go to a good church always.

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Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God. – 2 Corinthians 2:17. Therefore, can we conclude that men who peddle the word of God for profit are not sent from God?

http://www.cultwatch.com/HowPastorsGetRich.html

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Billy Graham is a false Hireling who hires ghost writers to do his sermons.. The Reverend Mel White is a homosexual activist who lives with his male lover, Gary Nixon, in Dallas, Texas. “I am gay, I am proud, and God loves me without reservation,” White recently told David Calker, a Los Angeles Times reporter. White, who “pastors” a militantly gay church, is also a writer of many Christian books. But though he’s the author, his name doesn’t appear on the front covers. Instead, a Christian celebrity’s name appears on each of Mel White’s books. White is what the book industry fondly calls a “ghostwriter.”  However, you’ll search in vain to find author Mel White’s name on either the cover or the title page of the books he wrote for Billy Graham. Nor is Mel White’s name openly connected with Jerry Falwell’s books. “It was important,” White now reveals, “that Jerry Falwell not be scandalized because his biographer was a queer.” Ghostwriter White also wrote Pat Robertson’s book, America’s Dates With Destiny but the gay reverend is not the only “ghost” whom the veteran host of TV’s The 700 Club has used for his chart topping books. Reportedly, Robertson’s recent #l Christian bestseller, The New World Order, was also ghostwritten by a CBN staffer.  http://www.scionofzion.com/ghost_writers.htm
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Now what’s to be done about the lucrative, yet unethical and dishonest, practice of the ghostwriting of Christian books? I believe it is time for some truth telling. Thomas Nelson, Word, and all the other wealthy conglomerates who disguise themselves as “Christian” publishers should step up to the plate and give us a list of which books have been written by “ghosts” and which were really penned by the authors listed on their covers. That’s the least they should do to come clean. Better yet, these greedy publishing houses and their celebrity stable mates should quit trying to fatten their coffers and make bucks off gullible Christian readers. They should cease their publishing of ghostwritten books entirely.
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My concern is that here’s how things like this continue to work: Franklin Graham (or Franklin and his sister Anne Graham Lotz) have an agenda (in all three of these cases, “traditional marriage”), they get a BGEA copywriter to draft the text, then a BGEA graphic designer does the layout (in the case of the ad), Franklin approves the copy and/or design, then Franklin drives out to Little Piney Cove (Billy’s cabin home outside of Asheville, N.C.) and holds the piece of paper in front of Billy and asks, “Daddy, can we publish this?” And Billy nods (or whatever he’s capable of doing at this point in his life), and Franklin goes back and publishes this stuff with his good father’s name all over it.  Billy Graham is 95 years old, in the advanced stages of Parkinson’s disease (among a host of other age-related ailments). He’s been having fluid drained from his brain on a regular basis for over a decade. When I worked for BGEA and Mr. Graham was still leading evangelistic crusades around the country, it was well-known that all of his sermons, articles, letters and books were ghostwritten — and had been for quite some time. You are such an Ignorumus too.. Billy Graham and his son stole money.. undeniably..  IT’S TO BE NOTED FRANKLIN’S GRAHAM’S REAL TOTAL COMPENSATION AND PERSONAL USE OF HIS COMPANY PLANE IS STILL A REAL PROBLEM TODAY AND NED GRAHAM’S PROBLEMS HAVE PROBLEMS! ALSO BILLY GRAHAM’S REPORTED ANNUAL SALARY FROM THE BGEA FINANCIAL STATEMENT IS OVER $ 200,000 AND IN REALITY IS ABOUT $450.000.
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What can you say? They are not real Christians but hirelings,  a wealthy businessman. That certainly doesn’t match up with most Americans’ idea of a pastor, but it’s simply reality many  false pastors-they write books, do speeches, get rich,  and do want to enjoy their   wealth on earth.   http://thenonconformer.yolasite.com/index/hireling
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Historically, Billy Graham’s deception is one of the ,,greatest” deceptions that has ever been perpetrated.  The Associated Press reported from M I N N E A P O L I S, Nov. 21,2000 – The Rev. Billy Graham, America’s best known evangelist, is stepping down from the head of the ministry he founded a half-century ago. His son, the Rev. Franklin Graham, has been named chief executive officer of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, which was founded in 1950. The elder Graham, who turned 82 this month, will remain chairman of the board and hopes to conduct several crusades next year. He was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease about six years ago. He spent three months at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., earlier this year after a crusade in Nashville.  But the financial statements of Billy Graham Evangelist Association for the last ten years have shown that Dr. Billy Graham has taken a one hundred percent salary as chairman of BGEA. But it’s a fact that Dr. Billy Graham has not worked a hundred percent of the time and not even fifty percent.   So is this right for a man who is supposed to be “Mr. Integrity” to take a hundred percent salary, plus pension plus one hundred percent of other fringe benefits and compensations and works less than fifty percent of the time?
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Grace Community Church, Southern Baptist Convention, in Auburn, Washington-which counted Ned Graham, his wife, and their two sons as members established in 1999 the fact that Ned Graham was an adulterer, alcoholic, wife abuser, and drug user and revoked Graham’s ministerial credentials. It directed Graham to stop using the title reverend.  Yet in a style reminiscent of Jimmy Swaggart, who refused to be defrocked by the Assembly of God denomination, Ned Graham left that congregation for another church.
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Concerns about his rising financial compensation during tough economic times have prompted evangelist Franklin Graham to temporarily give up future contributions to his retirement plans at the two Christian charities he leads. As president of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritan’s Purse, he receives two full-time salaries and two retirement packages. Last year his total compensation from the two Christian ministries was $1.2 million. The size of Graham’s total 2008 compensation — $535,000 from Samaritan’s Purse and $669,000 from Charlotte, N.C.-based BGEA — drew questions from nonprofit experts. They doubted that one person — even the energetic, globe-trotting Graham — can do two full-time jobs when those positions are head of organizations that employ hundreds and spend hundreds of millions around the world. As head of the Boone, N.C.-based Samaritan’s Purse, Graham earned more last year than any other leader of an international relief agency based in the United States. That includes eight with larger budgets, according to data compiled by Guidestar, a group that monitors non-profits. Some charity watchers said they know of no other instance where one person leads two separate organizations. And they wondered whether it was possible to effectively do so. “It’s a very strange and somewhat unique situation … and it raises questions,” said Ken Berger of Charity Navigator, the nation’s largest evaluator of non-profits. Pablo Eisenberg, a senior fellow at the Georgetown Public Policy Institute said: “How can you do two full-time jobs at the same time? It’s outrageous.”  THE SCANDAL OF CHRISTIAN GHOSTWRITING Readers pay exorbitant prices for the books of Christian superstars, never knowing that the volumes are actually written by no-name “ghosts.” Among the big names pulling this stunt: Hal Lindsey, Chuck Colson, Jim Bakker, Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, John Ankerberg, Hank Hanegraaff, David Jeremiah and Jerry Falwell.”  And several of these men quickly circled their wagons and tried to come up with excuses. Charismatic faith healer Benny Hinn took the direct approach. He went on Paul Crouch’s Trinity Broadcasting Network and personally introduced his ghostwriter! Hinn gave the lame excuse that his books were anointed by God, but he just needed help in getting it all into words and into book form. Are some of the most cherished books in your personal Christian library written by ghostwriters, some of whom are even homosexuals, atheists, and New Agers . The Scandal of Christian Ghostwriting, has caused quite a stir. Some Christian celebrities who use ghostwriters are panic-stricken. Many are wiggling and squirming in discomfort. They are embarrassed that their money-making scam was finally unmasked for what it is: A deception on the buying public.
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The total compensation of the heads of religious non-profit organizations including Evangelists Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, and Franklin Graham remains one of American’s best kept secrets bringing up the question if the prominent religious leaders in America have any integrity.The total compensation of the heads of religious non-profit organizations including Evangelists Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, and Franklin Graham remains one of American’s best kept secrets bringing up the question if the prominent religious leaders in America have any integrity. Unknown to most Americans is the fact that when religious non-profits organizations such as Benny Hinn, Robert Tilton or Bill Graham Evangelistic Organization get in trouble due to state audits, they just pick up their organization and move to another state and start all over again, for Non-profits organizations are incorporated by the state and not the Federal government. As a result Evangelist Robert Tilton moved his organization to Florida from Texas and Benny Hinn moved his organization to Texas from Florida. It’s a shell game!
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One is so stupid not to listen to God over man.. Billy Graham lied and said Mormons are Christian too..  Billy Graham is also on record stating that people can have salvation through paganism (another name for witchcraft). For instance, in McCall Magazine (Jan. 1978) Graham stated, “I used to believe that pagans in far-off countries were lost–were going to hell. I no longer believe that. I believe that there are other ways of recognizing the existence of God–through nature, for instance.” Pagans believe that salvation can be obtained through nature.
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We quote a paragraph from a letter sent to Billy Graham clear back in the 1950s by a Pastor who, grieved by what Billy Graham was doing to the harvest field, said: “Some people say that if you have just one convert in an evangelistic campaign, it is worth the meeting. That is not true. The evangelist, as the pastor and teacher, is given to the Body of Christ. The real test of an evangelistic campaign is not how many people are converted but what kind of a spiritual condition does it leave in a community. Billy Graham is not only failing in the number of people he leads to the Lord Jesus Christ in this day when hearts are hungry and most people are afraid of what may happen in the world and when it is easier to get people converted than it ever has been in my lifetime, but Billy Graham is pulling the limbs off of the evangelistic trees and the orchard is being left in bad condition. As we have often said, the real test of an evangelist is not just how many converts he has but does he leave the orchard in condition so it will keep bearing fruit.”
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Another prime example is prophecy teacher Hal Lindsey. Very few people know that Lindsey’s mammoth bestseller, “The Late, Great Planet Earth,” was actually written by a woman, Carla Carlson. To his credit, Lindsey has publicly admitted this. The question remains, however: Who is Carla Carlson? Why was she involved in writing Lindsey’s book? Why is her name not highlighted on the cover, in bold letters equally as large as those of Hal Lindsey? And finally: Are all of Hal Lindsey’s books similarly written by unknown ghostwriters?
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do visit and see also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/a-hireling-in-an-evangelical-church/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/a-professing-christian-prime-minister-of-canada/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

Spiritual Abuse by the so called Christian leaders

It is a very sad reality that even these days in the churches  that up to 70 percent of the pastors have not been called by God, they are imposters, hirelings and are not genuine shepherds of the flock. As a result many of them falsely resort to a dictatorial, abusive or hierarchy church structure and they demand falsely AND  force submission, and of course they even abuse their flock… they do now even cheat, lie, steal, slander, wrongfully counsel divorce.. . many people are surprised at this and do not know what to do.. Recognize, admit the sad truth and shout their sins from the housetops. They are not real, loving shepherds called by God.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/about-those-hirelings-now-fleecing-the-sheep/

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God himself accepts no abuses of anyone, not even by pastors…

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

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GRACE DOES NOT COVER unconfesed sins.. and that is why we so so many TV evangelists TOO NOW falling these days..

(Isa 58:1 KJV) Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.9  And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

(2 Chr 7:13 KJV) If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

(Hosea 4:6 KJV) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

(Micah 3:5 KJV) Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

(Amos 9:10 KJV) All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

(Jer 5:31 KJV) The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

(Jer 6:14 KJV) They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

(Jer 23:22 KJV) But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

(Jer 23:27 KJV) Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.

(Ezek 13:10 KJV) Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered mortar:

(Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way.

(Ezek 33:31 KJV) And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they show much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

(Jer 7:12 KJV) But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.

(Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

(Jer 8:7 KJV) Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.

(Jer 23:2 KJV) Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

(Jer 23:32 KJV) Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.

(Ezek 13:23 KJV) Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

2 Cor 6:16 KJV) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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(Rev 18:4 KJV) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

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.. once saved always saved is a big lie too..

Once Saved Always Saved ? no you still can lose your salvation in Jesus Christ https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/once-saved-always-saved-can-you-still-lose-your-salvation-in-jesus-christ/

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The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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By the way.. Preacher  Richard Roberts gets probation in DUI case; former ORU president pleaded guilty, serves no jail time   www.tulsaworld.com  AND I AM SURE THAT THAT WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME HE GOT DRUNK DRINKING ALCOHOL NOW..

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PERVERSE TV PREACHERS ARE BEING EXPOSED NOW OFTEN TOO.. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest.. so do it now too..

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GOD IS STILL ANGRY WITH THE WICKED EVERYDAY

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Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

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Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours: whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas, or the world or life or death, or things present or things to come-all are yours. 1 Corinthians 3:21-22

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Keep your eyes on Jesus and go to Him for help and not  mere men and women..

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(1 Chr 16:27 KJV)  Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place.

(Psa 4:7 KJV)  Thou hast put gladness in my heart, more than in the time that their corn and their wine increased.

(Psa 30:11 KJV)  Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing: thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness;

(Psa 51:8 KJV)  Make me to hear joy and gladness; that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice.

(Psa 97:11 KJV)  Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.

(Psa 100:2 KJV)  Serve the LORD with gladness: come before his presence with singing.

(Psa 105:43 KJV)  And he brought forth his people with joy, and his chosen with gladness:

(Psa 106:5 KJV)  That I may see the good of thy chosen, that I may rejoice in the gladness of thy nation, that I may glory with thine inheritance.

(Prov 10:28 KJV)  The hope of the righteous shall be gladness: but the expectation of the wicked shall perish.

(Isa 51:11 KJV)  Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away.

(Heb 1:9 KJV)  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

(Gal 5:16 KJV) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

(1 Th 4:5 KJV) Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

(2 Pet 2:10 KJV) But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, …

(1 John 2:16 KJV) For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

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Ever notice how the devil and his followers now even here want to do all the talking, all the preaching, they even  claim they know it all too, and falsely they even  demand you obey them. as dictatorship. forced submission is so common of the cults, includng even now the s8  group.. false values and extremes is so common in many cults, false groups.

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THERE IS A REASON THIS IS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

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(Mat 7:15 KJV) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

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(Mat 10:17 KJV) But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; …

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(Mat 16:6 KJV) Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

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(Mat 16:12 KJV) Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

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(Mark 12:38 KJV) And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,

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(Luke 12:1 KJV) In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

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(Luke 12:15 KJV) And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

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(Luke 20:46 KJV) Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

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(Acts 13:40 KJV) Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

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(Phil 3:2 KJV) Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

 

(Col 2:8 KJV) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

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(2 Pet 3:17 KJV) Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

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ALWAYS BEWARE

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Mutual, reversible accountability and submission is an integral part of the New Testament church structure rather still and of all true churches today as well and not one way, forced submission.

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Secondly, we notice that the New Testament elders   who were chosen were charged with the moral responsibility. in their oversight of the resources, food being distributed daily to the poor persons, the widows in need. Nowhere in this chapter firstly were they referred to as Elders. They were all servant ministers in every sense of the word, and some next were actually chosen as elders in the Church, as elders they were still servants of God and men. Those who teach the pyramid hierarchical structure seem to know that on your own you would not listen to them generally.. rightfully too. The false  groups clearly sells books, wants your money, promotes themselves all cause clearly they are false. While all my material is free and I claim no postion, or demand any submission, nothing to join as well

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Now also Follow the Money trail”, ONE OF THE OLDEST RULES OF NEWS JOURNALISM AS WELL

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(Rom 15:26 KJV) For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.

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(2 Cor 9:9 KJV) (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.

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(Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

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(James 2:3 KJV) And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

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(James 2:5 KJV) Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

(James 2:6 KJV) But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

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God did not even spare King David the exposure of his unrepentant still sins.. nor will you be spared..

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“America is going to Hell while greedy and crooked sinister ministers are getting rich abusing the name of Jesus. TBN and their associates have turned the ministry into a den of thieves. Jesus never intended for the church to be a money machine. The Apostle Paul was trying to help people, not take their money, which is clear from 2nd Corinthians 12:17-18. ”

TD Jake the corrupted Pastor who lives wrongfully in a million dollar mansion while God’s people sleep on the street, in cars.. and he Jake now has something good to teach us? even so he can fleece more money from us for himself.. this is s…uckers bait so he can steal more money from God and his people for himself. This is sinfull. Really sinfull..  Even if there are many others like him..

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(Luke 16:13 KJV)  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

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The time was the autumn of 1996, the scene a cabin in the San Bernardino mountains near Los Angeles. The cabin was owned by the Trinity Broadcasting Network, the world’s largest televangelist organisation with outlets on satellite, cable and terrestrial channels around the world. That much we know. According to Lonnie Ford, an admittedly troubled, sometime drug addict who worked for the station, it was also the site of an inappropriate, and potentially scandalous, sexual encounter between himself and TBN’s president and founder, Paul Crouch. when the Los Angeles Times got wind of the affair and went public with at least the gist of it. Ford has demanded large sums in exchange for his silence, and TBN reacted first by paying up . Ford’s friend and co-author Sandi Mahlow, meanwhile, told the Times how Ford had broken down in tears after returning from the cabin near Lake Arrowhead and told her that he and Crouch had engaged in sexual acts.”

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TBN ALSO NOW INVOLVED IN SEX, MONEY SCANDALS ..

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The granddaughter of Trinity Broadcasting Network’s Paul and Jan Crouch has accused the world’s largest Christian broadcaster of unlawfully distributing charitable assets worth more than $50 million to the company’s directors.

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ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF BAD PROFESSING CHRISTIAN FALSELY TRYING TO SERVE 2 MASTERS, GOD AND MONEY.. SO UNACCEPTABLY TYPICAL OF THE MANY BAD EVEN UNREPENTANT CHRISTIAN LEADERS WORLD WIDE TOO WHO HAVE NOT BEEN HELPING THE POOR AND NEEDY PERSONS AS GOD HAD WANTED THEM TO DO, EVEN IN THEIR LOCAL CHURCH, BUT RATHER THEY CONTINUALLY HAVE BEEN FLEECING THE GOLDEN IDOLATROUS EVANGELICAL COW, IN THE PROCESS THEY WERE EVEN ROBBING GOD’S PEOPLE TO HELP MAINLY THEMSELVES AND NOW ARE ARE NOW BEING RIGHTFULLY EXPOSED FULLY TO THEIR OWN SHAME. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT GOD DOES NOT APPROVE OF ANYONE LIVING IN LUXURIOUS MANSIONS WHILE SOME OF HIS POOR PEOPLE SLEEP IN CARS, ON THE STREET.

http://blogs.christianpost.com/nutshell/2012/02/tbn-exposed-tbns-power-profit-and-a-pink-poodle-trinity-broadcasting-28/ ..

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/02/sex_tbn_santa_ana_crouch_mcveigh_koper.php ..

http://www.christianpost.com/news/trinity-broadcasting-network-sued-again-by-family-member-70606/ ..

http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2012/02/16/50-million-embezzled-by-the-good-christians-at-trinity-broadcast-network/..

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2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

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” The leader of a suburban Atlanta megachurch Archbishop Earl Paulk was at the center of a sex scandal of biblical dimensions: He slept with his brother’s wife and fathered a child by her. ” One way to see if any person is realy spiirtual is to examine their attitudes towards money.. even for example do they want to give it to YOU, OTHERS freely.. or do they mostly want to take it from ALL OF US… and a very simple test too ehh.. Jesus gave freely to all who had needs…. THIS IS WHAT SADLY RATHER TOO MANY PASTORS, EVANGELISTS ARE NOW AND WHAT THEY MEAN BY HELPING THE POOR PEOPLE… NOT GIVING OUT FREELY BUT FALSELY STEALING FROM THEM.

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Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isaiah 55:6-7)

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Repent before it is too late.. otherwise you will lose it all.. drastically too..

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Here is the PASTORAL ROOT PROBLEMS.. you cannot live a Christian live without the Holy Spirit…

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(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.   My own comments for a start. Having met, fellowshipped with many many evangelical  pastors  and most of them were bad..

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Many pastors do try to do things in their own strength.. wisdom.. in the flesh..

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Sad Statistics on Pastors – Note these several statistics on pastors, as compiled in a survey by the Schaeffer Institute. – watch out for the spins, distortions by others..

 

– 90% of the pastors report working between 55 to 75 hours per week. ( they do this also in the real world, business world) -50% feel unable to meet the demands of the job.( because they were not called by God for the job, they are pretenders, imposters, not equipped by the Holy Spirit) -70% of pastors feel grossly underpaid. ( cause they are mostly hirelings, money hungry not rather serving God in love)

 

-1 out of every 10 ministers will actually retire as a minister in some form.( Most will be rightfully fired even many times)

 

-4,000 new churches begin each year and 7,000 churches close.( Obviously God did not start the church, half of all churches start due to a split)

 

– Over 1,700 pastors left the ministry every month last year. ( Housecleaning is ALWAYS IN ORDER)

 

– Over 1,300 pastors were terminated by the local church each month, many without cause.( according to whom?)

 

– Sixty-three percent (63%) HAD said they had been fired from their pastoral position at least twice. – 70% of pastors constantly fight depression. ( SO HOW THE USLESS PASTORS CAN THEY EVEN HELP OTHERS IF THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THEIR OWN DEPRESSION)

 

– 50% of pastors are so discouraged that they would leave the ministry if they could, but have no other way of making a living. ( No way of making living? Dream on.. use your hands.. leave anyway, and start to live by faith in God) Notice these seminary-related stats: -80% of seminary and Bible school graduates who enter the ministry will leave the ministry within the first five years. ( cause Bible school rarely changes anyone)

 

-60% to 80% of those who enter the ministry will not still be in it 10 years later, and only a fraction will stay in it as a lifetime career (AND MANY OF THEM ARE USELESS, PRETENDERS) -90% feel they are inadequately trained to cope with the ministry demands.( The holy Spirit is the one who should train them)

 

-90% of pastors said the ministry was completely different than what they thought it would be like before they entered the ministry. ( WHOSE FAULT WAS THIS?

 

-26% of pastors said they regularly had personal devotions and felt they were adequately fed spirituality.( HERE IS THE ROOT PROBLEM and  they themselves are to blame for this.) (No one is adequate for the ministry without the help, leading ,guidance of the Holy Spirit .. THE APOSTLES NEVER WENT TO A CEMETERY, I MEAN SEMINARY,,) Marriage and Family

 

  • 80% believe pastoral ministry has negatively affected their families.

 

  • 80% of spouses feel the pastor is overworked.

 

  • 80% spouses feel left out and under-appreciated by church members. ( WHAT YOU WANT TO BE A PASTOR AND LIVE A NORMAL LIFE) Church Relationships

 

  • 70% do not have someone they consider a close friend. •40% report serious conflict with a parishioner at least once a month.

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  • #1 reason pastors leave the ministry — Church people are not willing to go the same direction and goal of the pastor. Pastors believe God wants them to go in one direction but the people are not willing to follow or change. (WHAT THEY DO NOT HAVE LOVE FOR THEIR JOBS OR THE SHEEP, FLOCK TOO?)

 

– 35% of pastors personally INVOLVED IN sexual sin. In addition, AND 25% of pastors are divorced. ( FIRE THEM ALL)

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OVER STRESSED IN YOUR JOB, KEEP ON  WORKING FOR THE DEVIL AND NOT UNDER GOD… and it will only get worse for you..

 

http://www.intothyword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=36562

http://www.9marks.org/blog/dont-make-your-pastor-statistic?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+9marks%2Fblog+%289Marks+Blog%3A+Building+Healthy+Churches+%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

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”      Jeremiah tells us about the rebellion hidden in the lives of profane prophets and priests. “And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria; they prophesied in Baal, and caused my people Israel to err” (Jeremiah 23:13).   The word “folly” means to operate in rebellion and foolishness. Workers of witchcraft do foolish, even stupid, things that don’t make any sense. Then they say that God told them to do it. They will argue with their counsel saying things like, “I have heard from the Holy Spirit and I am submitted and listen to Him only.” Statements like that are common and contrary to the Word of God, which teaches that there is safety in a multitude of counselors (Proverbs 11:14).   When you start thinking that you are more spiritual than others and that you are the only one that can hear from God, you’re in big trouble. When you think that you are the only one that’s got the truth, and the only one that receives revelation, or the only one that can prophesy, or the only one that knows the Word of God, you’re entering the realm of foolish rebellion. You’re well on your way to being overtaken by the spirit of witchcraft.”
http://www.jonasclark.com/prophetic-ministry/exposing-prophetic-ministry-witchcraft.html

 

 

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For more INSIGHT, help on the issues do see these links

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

http://sacred-truths.blogspot.com/2012/02/personal-freedom.html

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/no-abuse-is-acceptable-zero-tolerance/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/promises-from-god-for-the-abused-oppressed/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/a-hireling-in-an-evangelical-church/

http://sacredtruths.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/money-and-the-ministry/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_evangelist_scandals

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/ http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

http://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/

 

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To the bad preacher

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  THE ONLY MENTOR YOU NEED IS THE HOLY SPIRIT   AND NOT THE EVIL SPIRIT’S OR ALCOHOL

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Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT  I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands and teachings. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT  only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man..  

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I have had also now in the past  about 5 control freaks evangelical pastors and also many of my relatives  try to dominate, control me, all claiming that God has appointed them to these roles.. they all can dream on.   We all are to submit ourselves solely to  God, to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.. who guides us, leads us into all truth. Jesus Christ is still the head of the Church, Churches!  

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1 Pe 1:5  who by God’s power are protected through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.  

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Now  you are even cursed if you are under any human covering but God.. There are any number of untold horrors that lurk for those who step outside God’s covering..   It is Jesus Christ that protects us.  We are protected by the Holy Spirit through faith.  There is no mention anywhere in scripture that submission to authority is required for spiritual protection. Demand for coverings are  a spiritualized protection racket,  an extortion scheme where some offer in return you their  spiritual “protection” services. 

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Even when people are mistreated and abused under the coverings they mostly will stay and endure because they are afraid of the false threats of  dooms that may  lie for them outside the covering of their church.  This fear driven manipulation does enslave people and do horrible things to people spiritually, mentally and emotionally. People grow in  healthy relationships built on trust and held together by real love but the enslaved persons  in authoritarian churches rarely experience this.

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Any submission is reciprocal, mutual, based on one’s free will still.

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Dictatorships anywhere are all still demonic.   God’s chosen leaders still cannot force any one into submission, for all submission is even mutual, voluntarily, willingly, unenforceable and all leaders are to be exemplary now firstly too and not rather HERE mere commanders or dictators    I know that this forced submission emphasis, demands are a false attempts by these overly perverse, ambitious, crooked persons, bad pastors and bad religious persons now included too, for these persons  and mere persons who do want now by such means to attempt to self prosper, to grow richer, to advance themselves over others still have  no good concerns for me. They are slave drivers. 

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Slavery was abolished a long time ago too.   Let me be very clear about that I am a slave to no man but to Jesus Christ himself, alone. I serve no man, especially any of the clearly foolish, perverted ones, and  I take orders from no man, I do not have to do what they desire or try to command me to do at any time too. No matter if they still do wrongfully think otherwise too. I am still only God’s slave  and not any man’s.

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Bad pastors that I have too often encountered now main objective is to control, rule over even silence the flock through fear and intimidation. In this despotic, institutionalized church system where disloyalty to or disagreement with the pastor or leaders is viewed as the same as disobeying God. Questioning the pastor on doctrinal statements becomes equal to questioning God. After all, the Pastor is the authority, and authority is always right. These pastors even try to commit their objectors to mental institutions. Sadly in real life both God, Good and bad preachers coexist but presently the bad preachers seem to outnumber the good ones 2:1    

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God’s ideal of a real Church now would be where everybody was just one big happy family of brothers and sisters behaving in love ,  decency, honesty too… but even many homes, families do not have this and why? The devil, sin and self centeredness, false pride run the homes and many churches, church pastors now too. Prideful, ambitious, control freak, pompous Satan and his earthly followers do hate the way God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Gal. 3:13; 5:18 ) and hate us being freed, free in Jesus Christ, our blood-bought freedom too.  

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Satan is really delighted now to see all the enslavements, abuse , chicanery and robbery going on in his rather den of thieves masquerading as a true church or a house of God! When you’re about to be thrown out onto the street for lack of rent money, you just try to get one of those tithe-collecting tycoons to share with you the way the first century Christians did with those in need. Yeah, right, he’ll “PRAY” for you, that is, if you can get past his entourage of ushers.  

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Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits

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Eccl 10:7 KJV  I have seen servants upon horses, and princes walking as servants upon the earth. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

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All of the Loyalty should be to Jesus Christ alone, the Word of God! There is no hierarchy in the body of Christ, where every one has their own function, the apostles, prophets, pastor have a function, even the deacon has a function, the elders as a whole has a function. One member in the body of Christ is not more important than another. They all have a function. Romans 12:3-6 says, “ For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. Having then gifts differing according to grace that is given to us. Sadly the role of pastors and deacons in the churches today does not match the role of deacons set forth in the book of acts.

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It seem many people still get the type leaders they deserve.. even mad ones.

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Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits…

Matthew 24:24, “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew greatsigns and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2Peter 2:1, “But there were false prophets also among the people, Even as there shall be falseteachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, Even denying the Lord thatbought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2John: 1: 7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”

1John 4: BELOVED, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

2 Timothy 4:3,4 “ For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

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SATAN Wants You even today. The same very busy devil who haunts the Las Vegas casinos, Church Bingo Halls, Lottos,  who often even in churches  wears a nice suit and tie to look respectable enough to con you out of your money, with half truths too, and  with the false promises of earthly wealth in exchange for “your sacrificial gift.”   Wonder how  he got his suit too?  He wants also you, he wants  to  net you, to fleece you, and for you be diverted, to miss the boat, he does not want you on the straight, narrow path that next also leads to Heaven, rather he wants you on the broad path that  leads to hell.  He clearly does not want you to live by faith in God to look after you, rather he wants you to do your own thing, for you to look after yourself. Don’t trust God he says, trust in others, trust in the Apostate Church, and in the crooked preachers too, or trust yourself rather. Trust even the too often bad Preacher these days who first  Wants His Cut. He the preacher now also does wants to know  What’s in it for him? Preachers seem these days to be  always hollering about how everyone must submit to THEM, it is a one way enforced submission and not rather rightfully a voluntarily , reciprocal mutual one, and pay up, pay the  tithe , or they’ll roost in Hell for all eternity.  The same too often false PREACHERS who refuse to submit to others and to the whole   Word of God especially.
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Telling the truth and sharing ALL the counsel of God as the  Apostle Paul did (Acts 20:27) can be very costly with the preachers losing not only control of the money but CONTROL over people’s lives,  and the false gratification it brings to their too often already swelled egos too.  Satan likes to have   the church members stranded in the Old Testament paying of the  of tithe that  next will be too often abused by the too often bad pastors now as well..  
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God took the initiative to have a great church by imparting His good Holy spirit gifts to all, these mostly Gentile converts now too.  But some how along the way these gifts and the related gifted men and women they have next too often been neglected, abused, distorted.. and many people these days in the churches even  need to be  he rescued them from these kidnappers.  Preachers too often also falsely say do what I say and not what I do.. especially not the bad things.
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Go to the preacher for help and think you really are going to get it next? Often not now too unless you FIRST give money, your full “tithe” to Him?   the preacher’s palm firstly still  does even needs to be  greased with a lot of  money?  But don’t even expect the help to be real, valid next too.  I myself always prefer to go to God alone rightfully still and not any preacher. If your are laid off, sick, unemployed, poor and there just ain’t much money to be gained from you don’t expect to be welcome back to most churches these days, I mean social /Cultural/pride clubs, not really Churches.
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Jesus himself did not live off the proceeds of tithes, So now why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses ABOUT TITHING in Malachi 3?  I Tim.2:5 which states that there is only ONE Mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus. And not some other human being that must now accepts his direct representative, supposedly on God’s behalf.  And NOWHERE in the New Testament does God even authorize him to take up, spend  any of tithes in His Name. “Spiritual tyrants would demote us from our exalted place in Christ and relegate us to being tribute-paying peons who work and slave to build THEIR religious empires. The false Tithing preachers do radically alters our relationship with God, from being His child receiving His favors solely through His grace in Christ, to some hard-nosed “prosperity partnership” whereby God only dispenses answers to prayer in exchange for cold, hard cash. “
 

Prideful,  ambitious,  control freak,  pompous   Satan and his earthly followers do hate the way God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Gal. 3:13; 5:18 ) and hate  us being freed, free in Jesus Christ, our blood-bought freedom too. Satan is really delighted now to see all the enslavements, abuse ,  chicanery and robbery going on in his rather den of thieves masquerading as a true church or a house of God!  The devil and the too often bad pastor claim they knows what’s best for the flock  so they’d better not take their freedom in Christ too seriously. Satan laughs at the sheep being able to hear the Voice of the Good Shepherd for themselves (John 10:27) he would rather  would rather have them listen to some amusing preacher who perversely usurps the place of God the Father in their lives. These leeches also lay heavy burdens on  God’s sheep , heavy burdens God  never authorized!  Satan and his bad preachers continues to rob God’s people of their identity, self worth,  of BEING sons of God, made free in Christ, part of  the House of God.  “Instead, that honor is  bestowed on some multi-million-dollar cathedral funded by TITHES AND OFFERINGS (freewill offerings are fine when necessary to meet REAL needs like feeding the poor and for missions, etc). Satan would far rather get Christians obsessed with remodeling the “sanctuary” (an Old Testament term) to the point where they neglect the care of poor Christians (God’s TRUE house).

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Admittedly, Christians must meet SOMEWHERE, and it might not be workable for the saints to assemble in private homes as they did in the First Century. But the local sheep shed must never be a white elephant on the backs of God’s people who are called to liberty. The REAL truth is the BODIES of God’s people ARE the real House of God (see I Cor.6:19).  Today’s tithing doctrine is an indigestible invention of carnal greedy religious wolves.  Tithing creates resentment and jealousy in the Body of Christ. Tithing turns smiley preachers into shiny-shoed tyrants  Don’t you think the good Lord has feelings too, and preachers oughta treat His property with respect? Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe! ”  The devil just loves this division of haves and have-nots in the institutional church…and  the way I see it, life’s way too short to give credibility to the cold, dead institutional church by paying the tithe tribute to it  “

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” When you’re about to be thrown out onto the street for lack of rent money, you just try to get one of those tithe-collecting tycoons to share with you the way the first century Christians did with those in need. Yeah, right, he’ll “PRAY” for you, that is, if you can get past his entourage of ushers. ” Who likely first will say your are poor cause you alone are at fault, are in sin or the lying, bad  preacher will say you did not give the money to me, you gave it to God and God alone now, next is the one who will pay you, help you.. such hypocrisy too.

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Tithe givers and tithe  Collectors live high on the hog while the poor “pew Christians” struggle to keep food on the table, a roof over their heads.   (I Cor.12:5) Jesus clearly FORBADE the hierarchy (bottom-to-top pecking order) in His Body. He said in Matthew 23:8: But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and ALL YE ARE BRETHREN.  Early Christians gained a reputation among non-believers for loving one another and being charitable toward the poor in their midst.  But that is clearly now how it is these days, these days the privileged few “in ministry” fatten themselves at the expense of the struggling wage slaves out in the pews. Instead of being tenderly cared for by so-called shepherds, poor “pew Christians” get threatened that God’s gonna sick satan on them for failure to pay the preacher his cut before buying groceries and paying the rent.  Satan now loves to see their kids go hungry while poor Christian parents pay tithes “by faith”, sacrificing  the thin sliver of income left after rent, transportation and utilities are taken care of. God is NOT not at all pleased with any of such religious persons.  


 There are yes there now are still too many  false sheep who worship those too many crooked evangelical pastors too dressed in nice suits. Not trying to impress anyone, or showing off I next went to a new church dressed in my clean, regular daily clothes. I next too was surprised when no  one said hello to me nor did they great me, and a few services later this continued to happen. So I prayed about it and to my surprise God said they were harlots, prostitutes. Embarrassed at this revelation I decided I would fully proof for myself this was true. So next Sunday I put on a white shirt, tie, nice black pants, and a white sports jacket and most everyone said hello  to me. Incidentally the same thing happens to me on the bus as well.. Why?  Also the very same pastor of this professing Christian church dressed there in a nice suit who also did not talk to me as well was next charged with abuse, slander, lying, misappropriation of church funds, and was eventually fired. Now these days when I see these peacock members, deacons, ushers  strutting around church in their fancy suits trying to impress the others , it causes me to be sick to my stomach still. It would be better if they used the money rather to help the poor and needy in their own church.

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Satan especially loves this one: Sons become servants who fearfully pay religious tribute, contrary to Gal.4:7 and Jesus’ own words in Matt.17:25-26 where He declares that the children are free (from religious taxation). Tithing severs us from the grace of God by substituting a performance-based relationship with God.  Tithing contributes to the destruction of one’s essential faith, all very much to Satan’s delight.  Tithing also clearly helps corrupt ministers to be led more astray by the lure of more earthly riches.   This tithing sheep-fleecing today firstly all amounts to spiritual fraud. lies, dissentions…

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For we are Christ’s Royal Priesthood (I Pet .2:5,9)  and who are ALREADY seated with Christ in heavenly places (Eph.2:6) and these too often false preachers now would demote us from being freed, slaves of no man,  and also from being Royal priests before the Lord.

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Deut. 12:32: What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: THOU SHALT NOT ADD THERETO, NOR DIMINISH FROM IT.
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(Eccl 10:8 KJV)  He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.
 
(Eccl 10:9 KJV)  Whoso removeth stones shall be hurt therewith; and he that cleaveth wood shall be endangered thereby.
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I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now. 

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(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:

Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
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It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
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When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?

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So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seems

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Many Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..

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(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

 Gal. 5:4: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

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The death of Jesus Christ   ushered in a new, and far better, covenant, making ALL OF the Old Covenant obsolete (Col. 2:20-22; Heb.8:13). Christians are not under the Law (Gal.5:18). The Law of Moses WAS, is a package deal.  If you TRY TO NOW “covenant with God” to keep tithing, or any part of the Law of Moses, you make yourself a debtor to do the whole Law (Galatians 5:3). and instead of bringing a blessing, the tithing could make you fall from the grace of God, which would bond you to the application of the whole law and thus falling from grace means you cease to rely solely on Christ’s Sacrifice of Himself for your sins next  to remain justified before a just and Holy God. You began your spiritual journey by faith and you also still do have to continue it by faith (Gal.3:3).  Any religious act, regardless of how “holy” it seems, performed to earn or keep salvation, likley now next would be a one-way ticket to hell! Tithing thus also is the stumbling stone to the modern churches.  Reliance on works of the Law is deadly, contrary  to the saving faith in Christ!

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Gal.3:10: For as many as are of the works of the law are UNDER THE CURSE: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in ALL things which are written in the book of the law to do them (This includes such ordinances as circumcision, animal sacrifices, keeping the Sabbath, the Day of Atonement fast, letting your beard grow, covering every container in your house (Numbers 19:15)!
Verse 11: But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

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Verse 12: AND THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Verse 13: Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

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“Preachers are committing   sin by adding Tithing on Wages, NOWHERE taught even under the Old Law!  Preachers latch onto the ten per cent figure because it seems like a good idea, regardless of what God thinks.  But they neglect the Israelites’ third-year tithe taken to feed the poor (Deut.14:28-29).  When was the last time any preacher ever told you to go buy a six-pack of Bud with some of your tithe money?  Why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses in Malachi 3?  Why don’t preachers ever mention THIS tithing passage?  It’s in the Bible!  I didn’t put it there, so don’t blame ME!

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Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Verse 23: And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Verse 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Verse 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Verse 26: AND THOU SHALT BESTOW THAT MONEY FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL LUSTETH AFTER, FOR OXEN, OR FOR SHEEP, OR FOR WINE, OR FOR STRONG DRINK, OR FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL DESIRETH: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household

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Notice, tithed produce was sometimes turned into money (the ONLY context in which money is associated with tithing in Scripture), but money itself was not turned in as the tithe!  Instead, the tithing farmer or rancher only bought more food with it when he got to Jerusalem, some of which he consumed himself! Tithe-collecting preachers not only ADD TO what God commanded in His Word, they DIMINISH (take away) from God’s Word by forbidding us to go out and buy Bacardi Breezers with “tithe money”.  Old sluefoot is thrilled when money-hungry preachers tamper with the terms and conditions of God’s Law, because in Revelation 22:19 God promised to disinherit those who added to or subtracted from Scripture. When preachers say you can’t buy wine or strong drink with “tithe money” they’re actually taking away from Scripture!

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Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe!
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Besides robbing god’s people of their blood-bought freedom from the Law, what OTHER victories does satan win through tithing on monetary wages, which is NOWHERE taught in all of scripture?   http://www.scribd.com/doc/4617708/Fasting-Tithing-Blessing-Bringers-or-Burdens  
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” The Law is NOT of faith. God  (see Isa. 64:6 to see what God thinks of our best efforts to behave). If you want to know what kind of curses can fall on people who fail to keep God’s Old Law perfectly, just read Deuteronomy Chapter 28!  Bereavement, sickness, deep poverty, mental distress, defeat in every area of life.  Things didn’t improve for us after I gave all my pennies to the preacher.  We had one run of bad luck after another and I wondered why God ignored my prayers for prosperity.  Now that I’ve dumped a lot of religious baggage out of my Christian life, Jesus is more precious to me and life is a lot sweeter. It gladdens satan’s evil heart to see the profound spiritual damage done to Christians through forced tithing. ”  http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/ 
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” The Lord would say unto a certain caustic-tongued preacher who has failed to grow in the knowledge of My Love: I warn you not to hurt My precious lambs out in the pews, or over the air.  You have taken liberties with the tender hearts of my beloved children, even those who cannot discern truth from error.  They stand in awe of you, and latch onto your every word. They are too afraid of you to question anything you say, for many of them are immature and not yet well-trained in the Word of God.

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“Brother Bear”, you have allowed pride and presumption to enter into your life. You have even placed yourself as judge over My people who are suffering trials of deep humiliation, although I said in My Word: Who are you to judge another (Romans 14:4)? And, with the same measure you judge, you shall also be judged (Matthew 7:1-5). Repent of this haughty attitude, or I shall have to allow you to experience some of the same adversity you despise others for enduring.

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You condemn as slothful the poor, even those who set their affections on things above and can truthfully say their inheritance is not of this world.  But I said “Blessed are ye poor, for yours is the kingdom of God (Luke 6:20).”

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But you have reviled the poor (James chapter 2), although My Holy Word makes it clear that I have chosen the poor of this world Who genuinely love Me and rely on Me.  These people, so despised by you,  have been blessed with an extra measure of faith (verse 5).  Though poor in this world’s goods they are heirs of My eternal Kingdom.   Yet you lump them all together as leeches on society, worthless bums who produce nothing and “are just a drain on church resources.” You even take a grudging attitude toward keeping a church pantry for the needy and really think feeding the saints ought to be limited to “spiritual food”, although Jesus divided the loaves and the fishes for a huge crowd as an object lesson to teach them I care for the poor and the hungry. Your real concern is that “spiritual bread” costs less money to break to your flock than material bread.  But James said:  “What good does it do to speak a blessing over your needy brother or sister, unless you also demonstrate practical concern for their bodily needs (James 2:15-16)”?

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You’re being inconsistent, aren’t you, Brother Bear?  You say spiritual food is more important, so preaching  the Word to hearts is a much more valuable task to the Kingdom of God than feeding  hungry mouths.  Still, you set at nought the spiritual contributions made by the poorer saints, just because they aren’t paid for serving the Lord in dollars and cents like you are. But their blessed deeds of devotion are infinitely more precious in My sight than filthy lucre is to you. My Son gave His all to enable people to render such service to Me.

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I have  saints nation-wide and worldwide who are poor in this world’s goods but rich in good works, and already have treasure laid up in heaven. They pray for your ministry, among others.  A few of them even fast, and when these humble souls do eat, their food isn’t nearly so fine as yours. Some of them sing in the choir, or help out in the nursery. Some teach Sunday School, or visit the sick.  And you’ve got the gall to categorize all poor people as worthless bums!

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You lambast your people for their overindulgence in fine food and other luxuries.  Yet you look down on   casually dressed folks and say they don’t have enough self-respect to “dress for success” to help them focus on becoming “prosperous”.  Just what do you mean by that?

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Most likely you would even have despised My appearance, for I was not so smartly decked out as you.  And guess what?  I supplied the wine for a very  special party, and even sampled some of it  myself.  I was accused by ascetic religious leaders of being a “winebibber and a glutton”.  I consorted with harlots and publicans, and, most shocking of all,  I wore a beard and sandals, definitely not in keeping with your code of “conservative values”. You would indeed have considered Me, the Son of God, just another lazy hippie bum  because the day came when I quit toiling in  My carpenter shop and became an itinerant preacher who went forth to spread the Good News of the Kingdom of God, living strictly by faith in  My Father’s provision. You would call Me irresponsible because I quit My secular job before I had saved sufficient funds  to finance My ministry for the forthcoming fiscal year.

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And what would you have thought of John the Baptist?  With his humble garment and shaggy hair, he was hardly an advertisement for your “success gospel”, which the church borrowed from the world to conform the church TO the world!  That unpolished prophet would have been whisked out of your air-conditioned, sanitized sanctuary before he got a word in edgewise.  Rather than preaching the Gospel of Get he said: “Let those who have food or extra clothes share with those who have none.”  Jesus told the rich young ruler to “sell all that you have and give to the poor.”  THEN, “come, follow me.” Neither Jesus nor John ever  jetted around in champagne luxury to tourist traps, such as you’ve done in the past.  Instead of saddling their congregations with a burdensome mortgage in the name of “Christian commitment”, they held church under the open sky.

You roar against the worldliness of the saints,  but what is more worldly in My sight  than to Christianize the most lucrative of the world’s values?  You worship at the altar of monetary prosperity.  You condemn adultery, pornography, and juvenile delinquency, but what about covetousness?  Don’t you covet the “firstfruits” of other people’s paychecks, and compete for first dibs on what your “targeted donor pool” sets aside for TV ministries?  And then you turn round and lampoon poor people for “living below their privileges”.  You contemptuously view such souls as unworthy of My Love.  You think just because they’re struggling financially  they must be suffering My punishment for sin in their lives. Just what do you demand of them? What do you think they must do to live on a par with their so-called privileges? Become just like you, a man  whose angry  face and angrier tongue belie your pleasurable circumstances?

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People on public assistance are one of your favorite targets.  Leeches on society, you call them. Welfare queens. People looking for an easy ride! But look at yourself, with all  your shameless appeals for money, money, money, and ever more money. Your kind are the biggest welfare recipients of all, but it’s respectable because you do it in the name of “God”!!

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You commit yourself to exorbitant purchases “for the kingdom of God”, then go crying and begging on TV, expecting your “partners in ministry” to bail you out of a debt you incurred without first consulting them.  Have you ever once tried the same tonic you prescribe for others, tightening your belt and “being a responsible steward”?  Must your ministry always run on the latest technology, or are you just keeping up a prosperous front? Why not just postpone your next luxury cruise to the Lands of the Bible, or make your old suit do an extra year? How about a little macaroni and cheese instead of all those fancy restaurant meals? It won’t kill you! How about driving a used car to make it easier to catch up on your bills? Won’t a cheaper watch tell you it’s time to start your service? I am no respecter of persons. I think religious opportunists fishing for funds in fancy attire have much more to apologize for than jobless  people in faded denims!

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Now the shoe’s on the other foot!  How does it feel to be on the receiving end of correction for a change? If you think you’re above being reproved through My humble mouthpiece, you are failing My test of humility and need to seek My forgiveness for pride as well.

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How dare you treat My precious children like scavenging dogs!  You have never once walked one mile in the shoes of the people out in the pews!  No,  not since the days of your youth; especially  not since your rise to nationwide prominence as an “expositor of the Word of God”!

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What practical use do you make of your Bible?  You wave it above your head to show your underlings who’s boss, then you glare menacingly at them and lay into the “laity” (a man-made distinction in My Body).  You turn the House of the Lord into one  vast woodshed to beat My poor people who must struggle from  paycheck to paycheck so you can skim the  “tithes” off their gross income, plus offerings.  That amounts to bondservice to you, their rich overlord.  Many of them cede to you at least one-seventh or one-eighth of their after-taxes take-home pay BEFORE they even put food on their own tables to feed their own families!  How does THAT square with My teaching that I would rather have mercy than sacrifice! And even though I never ONCE commanded New Testament saints to tithe on money, you threaten them with My retribution if they don’t!

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Have you ever once really gotten to know one of your poorer listeners, either in your palatial sanctuary or out in TV Land?  Do you even know how ordinary folk live, or has your affluence blinded you to the way  everyday people must  struggle to survive?  Do you know what it is to set aside your own well-being and carry the sorrows of the afflicted, like the Good Shepherd does?  More than one of your listeners has suffered devastating health problems, or is struggling to raise children alone as a single parent. Many a poor woman cries herself to sleep at night because she’s lost her husband to death or divorce, or perhaps the fellow has run away from his responsibilities as husband and father, and has left her to carry the whole load alone. She dreads the bills the morning mail may bring.  She wonders how she’ll ever meet her rent and child care expenses, how she’ll keep her lights on, how she’ll put food on the table or buy decent school clothes. Her life is a wearisome treadmill. She wonders how long her stamina will last, until the day comes she is too sick to work and might become homeless or destitute. Are you going to call such precious souls lazy just because satan has sent the devourer to sap their physical and financial health and strength?

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Once I heard you bellowing:  “There’s twelve hours in a working day,  six working days, and 72 hours in a working  week!  Get to work!” You looked mad, but my, you enjoyed that. But how hard do YOU work, privileged one? I don’t see YOU slaving at a secular job 72 hours a week, Brother Bear. And when people do put in very long working hours, you gripe about how they  neglect their marriages and their kids and fail  to spend “quality time”  with them. Are you so poor at math that you can’t subtract your ideal working week from what’s left? Do YOU have lots of time to be with YOUR family, or are you a slave to the clock; someone who hates his monotonous way of life but who is expected to drag himself out of bed half-rested, then work two jobs.  Why?  Well, it isn’t cheap to  maintain that image of “prosperity” you demand of people.  Some NEED an extra paycheck in order  to  “tithe” on the first one and still have enough money to pay spiraling rent on an apartment which is barely lived in.  It’s just a spot for the slave to crash for a few short hours before a screeching alarm clock rings and  the same old grind starts again!

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You really think money should come with great difficulty for everybody else except  those “in ministry”.  After all, grueling toil is the price tag for being descended from sinful Adam and Eve.  But you’re just as sinful as anybody in your congregation, and deep inside you know it, Brother Bear. Still, you have no qualms about enjoying YOUR fine clothes, YOUR perks, YOUR regular jaunts (first-class, of course) to the Holy Land to “get closer to Jesus”. But all you want is to go there to get a religious buzz.  How can you get to know Jesus better  if you refuse to see Me in the faces of the poor who fill your pews, or in the aching weariness of the tired grey masses trekking home each night from their very unglamorous jobs?

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No, I don’t see YOU swinging a hammer or waiting on cranky customers in restaurants, or driving a bus. I don’t see YOU sitting up all night with a sick child before having to go to work early the next morning. Rather,  I see you pleading over the air to “prove God” by sending in your best offering, and you’ll gladly  reward the givers with a cheap trinket to say “thank you” for your “love gift to Jesus”.

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How demanding you are, like Pharaoh. He reached the point where he demanded his slaves go find their own straw to make bricks with, and doubled their quota too.  You wouldn’t be bothered by some young mother being so overburdened by long working hours she scarcely has time to see her children. You don’t care if some  elderly woman  skips a couple of meals to “save your ministry”. My people are mortgaged to the hilt, and harnessed to the expenses of your ministry.  They can’t be everywhere at once, yet I hear you bellowing about  their lack of service “to the Lord”, their reluctance to get involved in church activities and personal evangelism.  I hear you whining about how the saints are “at ease in Zion”.

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But if anybody’s at ease, it’s you and other “shepherds” who fleece the flock.  You hypocrite!  Any wise shepherd  will let his animals wear their own wool in the winter to keep warm, so they won’t perish from cold.  But you are cold-hearted enough to fleece My flock at all seasons, regardless of the sad shape they’re in.  You couldn’t care less about their sorrows.  You’re like one of those Simon Legree slave drivers of the Old South who  refused to provide medical care and proper food for his slaves, reasoning that it was cheaper to wear out a slave and replace him, than to waste resources to care for him.  You know that when people get fed up enough to stop coming to your services, other trusting souls who don’t know any better will take their place out in the pews!

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Your sour face masks the enjoyment you get out of your  ministry of meanness. You make a real meal of it, don’t you, Brother Bear?  Speaking of eating, you made an attack on your women disciples who aren’t skinny enough to suit you. Why do you think female fat is a deadlier sin than YOUR fat?

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How dare YOU, of all people, preach on physical fitness, or berate people for not fasting enough for your ministry?  YOUR bank account has gotten so fat from fleecing the poor and profiteering off people’s ignorance  that I think it’s a far greater sin to be a fatcat than a stout woman. I much prefer to see someone raid the fridge to dig  into a pint of Haagen-Dazs and “enjoy the guilt” than to see the likes of you raiding widow’s houses and digging into innocent Christians’ consciences and pockets, then enjoying all the guilt trips you lay on people who genuinely desire a closer walk with Me. People who desperately hope and pray  I am not really like you!

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Where, oh  where do you ever once read that I  hold women to this world’s measurements of beauty while excusing men from them? Show Me the Scripture! Have YOU looked in the mirror lately, and judged YOURSELF against your own narrow definition of physical fitness?  Remember what I said about first getting rid of the log in your own eye before picking at the speck in your neighbor’s eye! You get my drift. Your sexist double standards wound emotionally vulnerable women who have already been burnt by the Establishment’s dieting and slimness manifesto.  They don’t need to have more of that demonic drivel   crammed down their throats at church.  Rather, the fellowship of the saints is supposed to be a refuge from the oppression of the carnal  cultural edicts of a sex-crazed, money-mad world system.  A system which manipulates the minds of the masses and profits off the very same insecurities it instills in them.  You prefer your pews to be full of “successful-looking” saints whose outward appearance advertises the popular  Prosperity doctrine which has served you so well. Trim and businesslike, smart-looking, reassuringly refined and “nice”.

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Well, the hour on My prophetic clock is precariously late  and I don’t have time to put up with your perverse games anymore.  I’m not going to waste My precious time mincing words, either. I have said the things which are highly esteemed in the sight of man are an abomination in My sight (Luke 16:15).  That includes the self-aggrandizement and snobbery of mankind; all its egotistical pride in wealth, social status, or glamor..

I genuinely suspect you’d feel frustrated if your parishioners were closer to perfection than yourself.  It delights you to make them squirm as you  snarl abuse down at them and rob them not only of their human dignity but  the contents of their wallets. Now I’m going to shout back at you, Brother Bear:  Before you come back to My table demanding dessert,  let your poor slaves eat!

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When you invent new ways to heap  condemnation on My people you hinder My own work of healing bruised hearts. At present, I’m not getting much help from you. Nothing frustrates my grace more than some sharp-tongued preacher ripping into sensitive souls which really need the Oil of Joy for the spirit of heaviness,  the healing balm of the Love of Christ for emotional bruises, and the Power of the Blood of the Lamb to gain victory over every assault of the enemy, including nagging feelings of worthlessness and inadequacy.  Don’t you dare deny that My people are precious in My sight, or bring them under bondage to condemnation.  They are My heritage which I have purchased with My own precious  Blood.

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You have used your chastening rod to drive many sheep back out into the wilderness of the world. With force and with cruelty you have ruled them (Ezekiel 34:4).  People just got so disgusted with your vituperative tongue and continual carping that they left to go look for a new guru. These unstable souls were unable to differentiate between bullies in the pulpit and Christ, Who is meek and lowly in heart; the gentle, merciful Savior Whose yoke is easy and Whose burden is light.

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Your greatest delight has been not to show forth My love, but to “give lukewarm Christians a kick in the pants to spur them on to greater holiness”.  But that is not My way.  I am a loving Father, not a  slave driver wielding a whip.

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There were times you actually forgot all about the offering and felt like your motives for performing your ministry were noble, and no one else could fill your place.  In the beginning people thought your approach was like a breath of fresh air, after all the mealy-mouthed, double-tongued preachers they’d listened to before.  Until your words hit home hard and hurt them too much.

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In your misguided  zeal you have laid many grievous burdens upon My precious sheep, which I never authorized you to do. Yet you would never touch one of these burdens with a ten-foot pole (Matthew 23:4). Just how long could you last, if I placed on your neck just one of the burdens so many of My people “out in the pews” are under? Could YOU work a nurse’s double shift, or slave on an assembly line all day?  How could YOU cope with feeling like your precious years were going down the drain and you felt frustrated, and saw yourself as just another cog in a machine at some factory,  living to work, rather than working to live ? How would YOU feel if YOUR boss fired you for some trivial reason, and YOU spent many weary weeks searching for a new job? Why should  poor people have to suffer your caustic criticisms on top of everything else they have to contend with daily!!!!!

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Brother Bear, you’re at it again from your bully pulpit.  In times past you’ve lambasted My people over the head with misapplied Scriptures and vain traditions of men in order to FORCE them to pay unscriptural “tithes” on their paychecks and wages.  With FORCE and with CRUELTY many fat, well-fed  pharaohs have ruled My people (Ezek.34:4). Brother Bear, you’ve even threatened My people with the fires of hell for “robbing god” (yourself?) and you’ve sent many hard-working single moms and unemployed parents to bed weeping that I couldn’t give to them unless they shelled out the cash FIRST to PAY for those blessings. The riches of My infinite love which I FREELY share with My beloved children have been substituted for EARTHLY prosperity which I SELL to fearful, cringing, begging slaves in exchange for painful sacrifices!

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Your LATEST vendetta is against stay-at-home dads who lovingly babysit their own kids instead of toiling at some  “secular” job.  Which planet are you on, anyway? Are you so out of touch with this economic recession that you begrudge some family the extra income a better-educated and better-qualified wife can bring in?  The Virtuous Woman of Proverbs 31 was capable of rolling up her sleeves and bringing in the bacon when necessary.  And if she DOES go out to work to save the family home from foreclosure, who’s gonna stay home and mind the children? It’s a catch-22 situation, Brother Bear. The man’s wages would BARELY be enough to pay for a substitute baby-sitter.  So why would it be far better for him to leave his own precious children to the care of strangers who may not even be Christian? Are YOU gonna shell out money for the man’s nursery fees out of your own extra fat so he can afford to go back to work at his low-paid job and actually get to contribute a meaningful amount to the household budget?  When hell freezes over! You FOREVER beg the “pew Christians” for extra “offerings” and “tithes” to finance something the “church” needs, but they would NEVER EVEN THINK of showing up on your own doorstep to ask for help in time of need.  Some of them have never even some within a few feet of you to say “hello”.  What kind of shepherd are you, anyway?  A good shepherd KNOWS his own sheep (John 10:14)..  Read Ezekiel 34 for a precise description of yourself! The Good Shepherd doesn’t beat the stuffing out of his sheep when they’re down, he HEALS them!  Now you’re telling that poor stay-at-home dad he’s going to fry in hell for all eternity in unquenchable fire with satan and his demons while you go to yet another heaven for yet another easy life.  Unless you repent and come to My Son for forgiveness and cleansing, Brother Bear, don’t bank on it! Don’t you realize My Son warned that if you called your brother “raca” (worthless) you’d be in danger of My divine judgment council (Matt.5:22)?

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Why is it that if this same “Mr. MOM” was being PAID to run a day-care center to babysit OTHER PEOPLE’S KIDS you wouldn’t even think of calling  him a “lazy bum on his way to hell”, but since he’s not earning a solitary cent by keeping his OWN kids, he’s committing an unforgivable sin?  I would charge that man with the sin of slothfulness if he laid around on the couch all day guzzling on a beer watching TV while his kids ran wild.  But there’s a lot of GOOD Christian dads out there, Brother Bear, who deal with the REAL world as it is today in the best way they can. How can YOU possibly relate to the real world, son, where dads are a WELCOME extra pair of loving arms to cradle a sick baby while his tired wife takes a well-earned break? Do YOU ever get tired, Brother Bear? Do YOU have servants in all those fancy mansions you possess to make your life sweet and easy?  Or do you at least own a dishwasher, to clean the backlog of sour, grime-encrusted dishes generated by a houseful of rambunctious youngsters?  What about the yardwork that always needs doing, or the things that get broken around the house which the woman of the house doesn’t have the expertise to fix?  Maybe the woman’s real short and can’t even reach that broken electrical fixture!  Maybe the woman’s way too WEAK to lift heavy furniture or appliances that need tending to.  Anybody, whether male or female, who cares for a houseful of kids all day long and does the job conscientiously and well gets My reward and commendation, not My condemnation!

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You forget, Brother Bear, that before the Industrial Revolution, it wasn’t unusual for men to work “at home”.  Adam and Eve worked together at similar tasks in the Garden of Eden.  Adam didn’t grab a sack lunch and hop onto an express bus to Smog City to toil in some factory.  My own earthly foster father Joseph ran his carpentry shop just a few steps away from our living quarters.  In an emergency situation Joseph could lay down his tools awhile and lend Mary a hand to help with some unusual problem Mary herself was too weak to take care of.  Unless he was away on a special job or had to go get supplies, My foster father did not “commute” to his daily employment.  Whenever necessary My mother could even come into the carpenter’s shop to help hold down a plank while her husband sawed.  She could help him clear light debris out of the shop and help make it tidy.  That’s what being a family is all about, Brother Bear. Sharing and caring, not accumulating a stockpile of money.  Each member of the family helps out the other when one of them is overwhelmed or needs the special expertise of some better qualified member of the family.  I care more about sharing and caring and bearing one another’s burdens in love than I do about sticking to traditional role models in the workplace.  So long as a husband does what he can WHEN he can and displays love, tenderness, godliness and courage in caring for his family, I find no fault in the way he carries out his role.

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OR, could it possibly be that you have ulterior motives for questioning the masculinity of the house-husbands of your congregation?  You know full well that in being a cook, dishwasher, cleaner, launderer, shopper, meal-planner, baby-sitter, errand-runner, football coach, secretary, and amateur doctor for his family, that man’s services must be worth at least a five-figure sum, though he is FREELY giving these services out of love.  Even if the man’s wife is a qualified university professor making a six-figure salary, you gripe about the fact that only ONE tithe check will be coming your way from that household instead of two! Ideally, you’d love to have TWO slaves out there working their guts out to make life cushier for you, wouldn’t you, Brother Bear? When was the last time you sent a sympathy card to the family of some member of your congregation who died prematurely because of job-related stress or poverty?

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You yell about the breakup of the American family, but who are YOU to point the finger of accusation?  You left the wife of your youth for a younger, fresher face.  You committed adultery against a loving wife who had bore you some lovely children, then remarried the object of your affections, having a second family with her.  I love ALL your children and will do My utmost to see to it that they all have a fighting chance to make it to heaven, since they are ALL precious in My sight.  Yet the fact remains that you’re continuing in the ministry, contrary to  I Tim.3:2, Titus 1:6 and Mark 10:11, which plainly states that in putting away your first wife without just cause and remarrying another you’re living in sin.  John the Baptist warned King Herod that it wasn’t lawful for him to have Herodias, yet you could care less about that Biblical example and think it’s only for other people.  You ignore My Word as you pamper your flesh and do what you want.  At the same time you excoriate the members of your congregation for being lazy, unspiritual and selfish with their money!

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When was the last time you thanked your people for all  their loving support? Without  the little people out there in the pews, you’d be out of a job, and you’d have to toil for your daily bread like them. It takes far more faith to live without money than with with it. Have you ever once thanked your people for getting up early on their one day off (for many of them), getting themselves and their children ready, wolfing down a hurried breakfast, then braving  traffic jams and all kinds of weather on Sunday, which is supposedly a day of rest?

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My Love is gentle and meek, but  about the only gentleness they ever get from you is the deceptively mild warmup to your real sermon, which builds into a roaring crescendo of rankling bitterness. Finally, your pent-up anger  bursts out and you let My people know what you really do think of them. They’re just “lazy hot-tub saints who’d be lucky to get the strip off a tin can as a crown on Judgment Day”. But what kind of a crown do YOU expect for browbeating your fellow-servants in your Master’s absence, then making a tidy pile for being an overbearing bear? (Matthew 24: 48-51).

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Even newborn babies fresh from heaven aren’t spared your  bile. I blessed little children and babies, but you call them little vipers who will grow up to be juvenile delinquents unless they’re treated with a firm hand from the youngest age, though all tiny infants want is to be loved and cherished.

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If anybody enters your church feeling like a special,  beloved child  of God, you know how to break him of that habit in a hurry.   I am extremely patient with babes in Christ who simply don’t know any better than to overzealously pick at each other, especially about issues that are  cultural obsessions of a fallen world, not actual sins.  But you, a man who was converted a long time ago, have used your power and influence to make the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad (Ezekiel 13:22a).

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Old hurts you suffered as a young boy are still festering deep in your soul. Others misunderstood you and were impatient with you, even your own over strict dad.  So now you feel driven to perpetuate your unresolved hurt by lashing out at your own congregation and nitpicking at everything which doesn’t fit into your confused notion of what a church should be.  Rather than insulting some wounded woman out in the pews and reducing her to tears, you really should bring all your old hurts to me, dear son, and I would do a miracle of healing and restoration deep in your soul. I would help you to forgive your earthly father, the one you’re really angry at; a misguided man who hurt you by always being quick to discipline you, even before he knew the full story of what had happened. Ask Me to teach you how to love before it’s everlastingly too late to undo the damage which has already been done.

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Grow up, or you’ll be ashamed when you stand before My Judgment Seat.  Repent of your hardheartedness now.  Why should you have to stand tongue-tied before the Bema Judgment Seat and watch your work of discouraging the saints go up in smoke?”

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id88.html

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“Whenever preachers give even passive acceptance to hero worship from Christians they’re manifesting a spirit of Antichrist (instead of Christ).  By lording it over their flocks as gods, they’re promoting IDOLATRY in God’s people and causing Christ’s little ones to stumble (Matt.18:6). Peter instructs true ministers of God to have a humble attitude, not to be greedy of carnal gain, and not to exalt themselves as lords over God’s heritage (I Pet.5:2-4). 

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Lust for power and money has caused the spiritual ruin of many a preacher and shipwrecked many souls who invested time and treasure in his message.:

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I have called you out of the darkness of bondage into the perfect liberty of My Spirit. I have set you free from the cruel despotic, slave masters, bad pastors too, unto your full freedom, liberty in my son Jesus Christ made available to you by his death for all of your sins too.  Stay free.  Note Jeremiah 17:7 which warns of a curse upon those who trust in man rather than God.

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II Cor.3:6  Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but the spirit: for THE LETTER KILLETH, but the spirit giveth life.  

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VERSE 7  But if THE MINISTRATION OF DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVEN IN STONES, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away; 

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VERSE 8  How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 

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VERSE 9  For if THE MINISTRATION OF CONDEMNATION be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 

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Acts 20:29: For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

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Rom. 8:1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.

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(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
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 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

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Open rebuke is better than secret love. Those who sin rebuke before all, doing nothing by partiality, and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke before all as well. I   post  much of these facts, truths openly to all presently so they will all even repent today. 
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Fundamentals evangelists have been proven right, Alcohol is dangerous, leads also to cancer. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/

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1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your  adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may  devour:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions  are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.10 But the God of all  grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye  have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 11 To  him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty joined   brewery manager Colin O’Brien, and supply director Paul Armstrong at the Guinness brew house. http://www.canada.com/Stephen+Harper+Irish+adventures/8532787/story.html

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I rightfully  do not put up with any crooked cops, bad pastors, crooks and  I readily call the police, expose them , demand openly their full prosecution, dismissal too. Originally I gave many of them the doubt, but now I am convinced that most of them are deliberate, conscious crooks, specifically “hirelings” who should be fired, dismissed
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I also had sent my complaint to major news editors, major MPs, all the members of the legislatures in 4 major provinces now as well asking the government to deal with the false solicitation of funds, tithes under lies by any of the crooked evangelical pastors too. 
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 Now at lest even the bad pastors also least cannot deny the fact they were given a chance to repent.. for it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. I have fired many pastors, seen the white terror on their wives faces when they also do see me.. they have the holy shakes, a spirit of holy fear..  the present public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s’ best interest still.  I think we can agree that people world wide will read these posts,   and  that they will be upset by it and prosperity and properly respond to it too in Jesus name..
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While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
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 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
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do see also

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/neither-give-place-to-the-devil/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/abused.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html

http://pbulow.tripod.com/forgiveness.htm

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As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  (Prov 31:8 KJV)  “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9    Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.
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No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Ask also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
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I TOO  still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
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For all the fundamental evangelical Christians who say that PM Stephen Harper DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.. HERE IS THE REALITY “VANCOUVER, B.C. – It seems U.S. President Barack Obama owes Prime Minister Stephen Harper a few cold ones. The two leaders had a friendly bet on the outcome of Sunday’s gold-medal Olympic hockey game.   Team Canada came out on top, so Obama will have to pick up a 24-pack of Molson Canadian for the prime minister. Harper would have had to buy Obama a case of Yuengling beer if the U.S. had taken the top honour at the tournament. Team USA beat Team Canada in the first match-up between the two countries in the preliminary rounds, but Canada came out on top in a heart-stopping overtime round on Sunday. Harper was at the game in Vancouver but Obama did not make an appearance at the Olympics. The prime minister met with the gold medal winners in the locker room after the game to congratulate them. “
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/obama-owes-harper-a-few-brews-after-canada-takes-us-in-olympic-hockey-85784877.html
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I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THE LYING US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OBAMA SUPPORTER HAD SAID THAT CHRISTIAN OBAMA DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL..
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 I had attended a recent comical church service,  New Beginnings Ministry 9412 Rue Clement Lasalle, QC H8R1T5 Phone: (514) 363-1080., a farcical circus, not the first time now too,  where  Stéphane Chauvette Associate Pastor was preaching about everything, bashing everyone else, but somehow he could not keep his own promises, his  own word, or stay on a specific valid subject. And he made it clear if you  rock his boat he will next also kick you off the ship..  The  hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of this New Life Beginnings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly  now  for us not to believe any of the news media and for us not to  have anything to do with any person who drinks wine, and to stand up against all of the people who do any wrong, to even openly speak to them, ( as long as it is not the pastor himself  for sure) and yet he lied and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him.. for next  I thus told him that our PM stephen Harper the supposedly good Christian now drinks beer/wine..  well  next the pastor really got upset at me..  since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refused to further talk with me  and said  he was tired now, he  refuses to hear any of that, he refuses to believe any of that, for that is all gossip,  slanders, and also we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for this supposedly Christ like church and their false professing Christian love, false brotherly love, their supposed openness now, and one’s free speech too..
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(Luke 19:45 KJV) And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought; 46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

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Most preachers today who sell the gospel for money tend to be still false themselves too. Neither Jesus Christ, His apostles, nor any early Church Christians sold any portion of the Gospel to others, rather they clearly gave freely to all others in need..

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I have been preaching freely the Gospel of the New Testament, Jesus Christ freely for over 50 years and I have never taken even one church offering or have asked for any money for doing so..

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The Old Testament and the New Testament tells many an account of the false prophets who now also had betrayed God, Jesus for money..http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper is not a real Evangelical Christian

For all you naive, seduced born again evangelicals who do still think that Stephen Harper is an evangelical Christian, most of you real Evangelicals do agree that drinking beer is  an unacceptable sin but
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Stephen Harper offers a pint of beer he poured at the Red Stag tavern during a campaign stop in Halifax, Thursday March 31, 2011”.
… Harper flunked the Christianity test even..
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