God does not accept any abuse

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HOW YOU EVER NOTICE NOW HOW THE FUNDAMENTALIST,  EVANGELICALS, BAPTISTS AND MANY OTHERS DO LOVE TO BASH CATHOLICS, OTHER DENOMINATIONS, PENTECOSTAL WHILE THEY THEMSELVES ARE HIDING MAJOR SINS IN THEIR OWN GROUPS SUCH AS ALCOHOLICS, ADULTERERS, THIEVES.
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God does not at all not allow, accept any human rights, verbal and physical abuses and neither should we.. And Exemplary public exposure of the Bullies, abusers, the bad, guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest next too. God undeniably himself does not show false partiality . God still Shouts the abuses, sins truth from the housetops..
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Let me tell you we do not have to accept human rights abuse that is a lie of the devil.. in this world we have the same rights as the bully even the right to see that a bully is punished for abusing us.. God is not ignorant about the injustices inflicted upon his people, nor does he accept any of our human rights abuses without punishing the abusers shortly.. see the Bible book of Esther if you have doubts..
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Est 9:25 But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
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These Abusers are often really deceived persons falsely believing they alone have the right to speak and to be heard.. they are generally the unacceptable bullies as well now.. all unacceptable always, still.. God himself does not tolerate, all such abuses. The right of free speech is never a right to lie about others, to bully them, to slander them, to put them down..

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The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.

(Prov 14:12 KJV) There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, false putdown, negative persons, false Prophets, false pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

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Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over

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(Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits.

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Now a Southern Baptist leader had suggested abused women should ‘be submissive’ instead of getting a divorce, Controversial comments about women, abuse and divorce made by respected leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention have put many of its leaders in deep uncomfortable position.Those comments, which had set off a wave of criticism within Southern Baptist circles over the message it sent to women. Such episodes aren’t surprises to women who have recounted their own experiences in the Southern Baptist Convention. “Anyone who would say that a woman has to stay in a violent or abusive relationship because it honors God is wrong,”
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Abuse something we all often encounter and do not know how to deal with it? Well do not hesitate to call the police, the news media and report it.. Everyone  needs to set boundaries on what is acceptable behavior. No verbal abuses, no bullying, no lying, no foul languages, no hitting or other violence should be allowed.

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Hate and Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse. Hate, Verbal or physical  abuse is always unacceptable too. So are the Bullies now too … I have learned a long time ago that public exposure and prosecution of the abusers serves everyone’s best interests.
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“Many women have experienced horrific abuses within the power structures of our Christian world,” Beth Moore. The Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary fired Paige Patterson, he 75-year-old president of Fort Worth’s Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, which claims to be one of the largest schools of its kind in the world. Also Andy Savage resigned as a teaching pastor at Highpoint Church, a nondenominational congregation after he acknowledged that he had been involved in an inappropriate “sexual incident” with an underage high school student as a youth minister at a large Southern Baptist church near Houston. On any given Sunday, there are more women than men who attend church. These women, in communities across America, may think twice before pulling into a Southern Baptist church’s parking lot. Southern Baptists now find themselves in a situation that is perilous. Too many Southern Baptists say Patterson’s comments reflect larger attitudes about women within the seminary and the denomination’s circles,
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New Orleans pastor and seminary professor John Gibson struggled with a sexual addiction, depression and the shame of having been exposed as a user of the infidelity Web site Ashley Madison.
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Les Hughey founder of a popular megachurch in Arizona admits having sex with girls in his charge when he was a married youth pastor at a prominent Modesto church
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“Brad Tebbutt, who like Hughey was a youth pastor at Modesto’s First Baptist Church sexually abused a girl from age 14 to 17,
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The larger problem of sexual abuse in evangelical circles. Much of the sexual abuse that takes place in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches involves adult men targeting 14- to 16-year-old girls. Former IFB megachurch pastor Jack Schaap argued that he should be released from prison after being convicted of molesting a 16-year-old girl.
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There’s no shortage of such stories.Women raised in evangelicalism and fundamentalism have for years discussed the normalization of child sexual abuse. We’ve told our stories on social media and on our blogs and various online platforms, but until the Moore story broke, mainstream American society barely paid attention. Everyone assumed this was an isolated, fringe issue. It isn’t.
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(Jer 5:7 KJV) How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses.
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(Jer 7:9 KJV) Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
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(Jer 23:14 KJV) I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
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AND EVEN CHRISTIAN MEN HAVE ALSO BEEN ABUSED BY SO CALLED CHRISTIAN WIFE.  LETS NOT PRETEND TO BE DUMB AND DENY THAT MANY OF THE DIVORCING SPOUSES EVEN PROFESSING CHRISTIAN ONES AND THEIR LAWYERS, SUPPORTERS THEY DO FIRSTLY LIE EVEN IN WRITING TO THE COURTS TOO.. THEY DO COMMIT PERJURY TO THE COURTS IN DIVORCE DISPUTES, AND TOO OFTEN WASTE THE COURT’S TIME AND TAX PAYER’S MONEY CAUSE BASICALLY THEY ARE ALL STILL PROSTITUTES, THEY PROVIDE THEIR SERVICES FOR THE MONEY . DIVORCE MOSTLY IS CAUSED BY THE FALSE LOVE FOR MORE MONEY, SELFISHNESS, UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS, LAZINESS, UNFORGIVENESS OR UNCONTROLLED SEXUAL LUST
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Without a doubt, many fingers that get pointed at belong to the people who are truthful. it is very hard to determine who is telling the truth with the salacious false stories, gossip, misinformation and lies about his personal life . So there’s often a big problem in sorting out the truthful accusers from the lying accusers who lie because of a profit motive. sexual lusts, melding; in-laws. The spouse she may look refined, but she can get very vicious when angry, she is a gold-digging fantasist, a blackmailer. a liar. She makes False claims that don’t have time stamps and have been doctored. The estranged wife is ‘making up’ false claims of domestic abuse in order to boost her divorce settlement. It is not unusual for the divorce perpetrator’s playbook to include miscasting the victim as the sole villain.’ As she was leaving him she had threatened to ‘lie about him publicly if he didn’t agree to her terms, over a clash over parental rights spiced by the in-laws, her parents’ “desperate desire” for her and the children to move near them, so that they the children can have a closer relationship with their maternal grandparents,” The “affluent” in-laws are “bankrolling” her litigation so that they could enjoy easier access to the grandchildren. The spouse was also fighting over the preservation of hidden assets and stolen heirlooms. she is thus accused of cooking up the abuse story to influence a judge’s decision on spousal support
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Imagine this even in a so called Christian Church a lazy, no good, rebellious, actually a slut, adulterous, unfaithful wife OFTEN STILL now files for a divorce, and still demands alimony but she also often even gets her church support in this matter claiming the Bible says the husband is to be the sole bread winner and too look after his wife. Well I got GOOD news for you all FOR there is no such verse in the Bible and the same PERVERTED church that says so, let them now support the wife next.. for the Bible is clear a wife is an equal marriage partner, who now also works even supporting her family .. (Prov 31:10 KJV) Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies…. 13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
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Proverbs 14:1 New International Version The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down.
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A Common Loser’s Strategy is asking to Look at me! Notice me. See who I am! Pay attention to me. I am great! I AM THE GREATEST! Worship me, Praise me. Losers worship the false god of self.
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Decide you’re going to stay married, no matter what. Literally When a woman first seriously considers divorce she usually isn’t thinking about the theological implications of her desires – all she knows is that she is desperate wants to get more from her husband. She doesn’t arrive at this state of desperation by a process of calm deduction. Most husbands have few memories of “hurting” their wives and do not give it any thought. The truth is that a hardened woman only got that way because she was elf centred, selfish. Most women leave their husbands, because they entered marriage with false expectations Such a wife will be consumed by bitterness. she should realize the negative impact of her bad decisions will have, on her children or others . Her heart is too far hardened, and will not now respond to words of Truth. She falsely blames him for her bitterness.
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Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate. (Matthew 19:6) Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery. (Mark 10:11-12) If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. (1 Corinthians 7:12-13) https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/
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ONE OF THE MOST COMMON, POPULAR TOPICS, SEARCHES ON THE INTERNET is can a Christian next get divorced and remarried, and the simple answer is no! but wait do not stop reading yet.. if you are married, living to a demon, a control freak, a liar, a lazy good for nothing abusive person then please now do immediately get out of the marriage, do get an immediate separation.. and this not the kind of advice you would expect from a preacher of peace and love, but I am telling you all this for our own good, and you can thank me later.. and maybe next the still good for nothing bum, lousy spouse, he or she will wake up as to what she is really like and they may try to get help to change herself, himself.. but meanwhile don’t feel guilty about the peace you now have in your life.. By the way make sure first you are not the creepy, a good for nothing spouse yourself otherwise by your actions you will be doing your own spouse a great, great service

Isaiah 1
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

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Isaiah 59
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

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Jeremiah 5
25 Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.

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Numbers 32
23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.

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DO NOT LIKE MY FREE SPEECH.. TOO BAD BASHING CATHOLICS IS OK? BUT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT BAPTISTS IS NOT EHH.

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History is quite simply full of the activity of passive-aggresive persons and control freaks. These Abusers are often really deceived persons falsely believing they alone have the right to speak and to be heard.. they are generally the unacceptable bullies as well now.. all unacceptable always, still.. God himself does not tolerate, all such abuses

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I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some people falsely DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.

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When one express an opinion, view one can automatically expect contradictions, opposition to it, such as real life, You get used to it..

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Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well..

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While in reality God has made us all equal, and GAVE US ALL MOUTHS WE CAN SPEAK WITH, EARS TO LISTEN, it seems some people, in churches, on the net, elsewhere, they still wrongfully do think they are better than others, or want to dominate others, do try to give orders to others, do try to make rules for others that they too often themselves do not follow too, they are in fact still bullies.. and now why is that? and who do they think they are now that they are so special? Mere fools. They mostly have a hidden agenda, they are falsely seeking fame, power, control, a position of prestige, for they are immoral slave drivers trying to walk on the back of others…Too many persons now they are trying to change others when they firstly do need to be changed..

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Free speech too often seems to be expected as only is a right mainly for the rich, the bad guys, crooks, not the decent folks. I also do I know that bad guys and gals such as the crooked cops, crooked pastors, crooked politicians, crooked anyone do not like me to use my right of free speech.. but too bad for them..

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Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. The Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant guilty CONTROL FREAKS, BULLIES also now serves everyone’s best interest

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TOO ANY MENTALLY SICK people have their own false images, scenarios, and refuse to see the truth of what is going on and in denial to the truth, these people they next even do falsely say anything, lies, slander included.. these people are the ones who need help. It is a COMMON fact of life, particularly among the young, inexperienced, really bad persons who really hate the truth or they cannot handle serious , heavy negative realities that false denial, ostrich approach is a serious part of their make up, and their related defense protection when they now cannot discredit the facts, the make a false personal attack on the writer, persons instead.I can readily recognize bad control freaks on the net cause they want to give me advice how to write my post, what to write, in fact they want to rather write it for me.. rather fools is what they really are.. I freely can speak for myself, write for myself now too. You readily find these freaks also in churches, homes, etc., demonic enslavers is what they rather are too now. Not much point in being nice to them for often they are too dumb to understand who they really are too often too… and they rarely change.

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Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That

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Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man.. Biblical repentance is admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God, and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them.

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As a University graduate , a professional I have always had subordinate working for me, and no… on ever ordered me around, told me what I can and what I cannot do, even my superiors as  it was always suggested merely.  So I have to say I was really surprised  that when I left the working Milieu I found now too many  bullies, false people , slave drivers meddling in my personal  life, even ordering, telling me what I should do, what I should write and what I cannot do, what I cannot write  Even in the churches.

And who in the hell do they really think they are now to do so? I am a free man, my freedom was paid by the lord Jesus Christ and I am accountable now, next still only to him.. So I merely rightfully tell these persons to drop dead, to take my posts or leaven them too..

And about the abuse of Children

Most people think of adult rape as a crime of great proportion and significance, and are unaware that children are victimized at a much higher rate than adults.

Those who molest children look and act just like everyone else. There are people who have or will sexually abuse children in churches, schools and youth sports leagues. Abusers can be neighbors, friends and family members. People who sexually abuse children can be found in families, schools, churches, recreation centers, youth sports leagues, and any other place children gather. Abusers often form relationships with potential victims and their families prior to the abuse. This is called “grooming.” Not everyone who sexually abuses children is a pedophile.

Child sexual abuse in Europe, America, and Asia had prevalence rate of 9.2%, 10.1%, and 23.9%, respectively. Child sexual abuse cases are notoriously difficult to investigate, and less than 10% of cases are prosecuted.

I have to say I was surprised, dismayed to be also informed about the number of that school employees have presented a serious risk to children in their care a very high e number of school employees sexually offending children. The School employees were not alone in this, it included both male and female educational assistants, student teachers, lunch monitors, volunteers, secretaries, custodians and school bus drivers.“The frequency of such abuses are certainly occurring more than one would expect. All of this clearly demonstrates the need for enhanced efforts to protect children in schools. elsewhere too. Public exposure and full prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest

Child sexual abuse is far more prevalent than most people realize.

Child sexual abuse is likely the most prevalent health problem children face with the most serious array of consequences.

About one in 10 children will be sexually abused before their 18th birthday*.

About one in seven girls and one in 25 boys will be sexually abused before they turn 18*.

This year, there will be about 400,000* babies born in the U.S. that will become victims of child sexual abuseunless we do something to stop it.

Only about 38% of child victims disclose the fact that they have been sexually abused. Some never disclose it

*Includes contact abuse only
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Child sexual abuse includes a range of behaviors, from obvious contact offenses, to less obvious non-contact offenses which include exposing a child to sexually explicit material, voyeurism, luring a child online for a sexual purpose, and inviting a child to sexually touch themselves or someone else. Children can experience trauma from both contact and non-contact sexual offenses

https://www.d2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/all_statistics_20150619.pdf

Read also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/christians-pretenders-who-hold-to-the-saturday-sabbath/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/how-do-you-recognize-if-a-person-is-a-true-christian-or-what-is-a-christian/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/abused-how-much-abuse-is-acceptable-none/

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A person shared with me recently the too common fact that the “customer relationship” departments or even the “hospital ombudsmen”, “provincial ombudsman” for that fact now, they are now a too often are perverse public relationship affair, or the institution’s lies or the spin doctors, bullies, mostly who are liars, con artists and truly they are not there at all to serve the best interest of the citizens, customers. These rather too often price gougers too still do seem falsely to like to find any excuse to stick more charges to the customers even  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/the-people-with-abig-clout-in-canada/

In Canada today it is a well known and documented fact that the majority of our major telecommunication firm’s customer care and/or billing departments even those of Bell, Rogers, Virgin Mobile, Primus are still now very abusive too often towards the customers , they are too often useless, pretentious, immoral even, and the words “customer care” here clearly are misleading, false, they rather are paid company employees who look after the customer’s sole interest who quote the firms own policies, rights, demands.. These same mostly self serving firms and department, persons tend to disrespect even the federal and provincial laws, the consumer protection laws included as ai have found out myself many times now too. They all tend to firstly really not care about any of the customer’s personal abuses, hardships, losses, pains, concerns for almost all of these corporations solely care only about the firm’s own profitability, and their sole, bottom line for them is making more of the almighty buck not matter what the costs, even to the customers. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/bell-canada-to-pay-a-penalty-of-10-million-for-making-misleading-advertising-claims/

Did you also not notice how they all tend to lie and make openly a public claim that they have the best, have the fastest speeds, have a good customer services now as well.. for they all seem to have to advertise falsely what is thus clearly not visible to many.. they seem to have to continually advertise for new customers cause they have a hard time keeping many of the old ones. Consumers have to use a trial and error approach in using the off the shelf medicine to see which ones possible may actually work as stated,, an approach that costs them wastefully loads of money now too.
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Speaking of the too often unacceptable corporate false misleading adverting’s, distortions of the realities even the pharmaceutical firms are also of the this when the use terms like the best, number one, fast relief, extra strong, rapid release, tested which is not true for every sickness or for every sick person.. all this is an ongoing false play on words misleading the average consumers and not helping them to get the medical relief they want, need.

The law already clearly specifies that to be valid a contract between two parties has to be also fair to both of the parties involved, but sadly almost all OF Canada’s telecommunications firms have a grossly one sided contract terms, definitions that mainly dictates out the rights of the firms only and not the customers rights, and this is grossly both illegal and immoral. Public exposure and prosecution of the liars, bullies, abusers, guilty firms serves everyone’s best interest.

Now I had called the customer care department at Primus to confirm my cancellation of their Primus phone services, because they had lied when they had promised now to all the lowest phone bill, and I had asked them Primus if they would confirm the cancellation to me in writing, but they Primus had replied that there was no need to since they Primus had a record of my phone conversation and the details, Now anyway I next immediately confirmed the cancellation date as well to them Primus in writing, and the Quebec law required they Primus give me a full billing balance statement and a full refund within 15 days. But next Primus disregarded my requests, and the Quebec law, and they Primus had next falsely had continued with the cancellation as per their own way as they Primus saw fit to do so, as per their own Primus policies. When I had called the Primus customer care back, had even spoken next to the Primus immediate supervisor, to confirm my objection of their Primus poor actions, abuse of my personal rights, they Primus told me that they themselves Primus had now no right to deal here with my issues, objections, concerns matters and I should contact instead their Primus legal department.. what a useless and immoral, pretentious Primus customer care department now as well. It seems that even the majority of the major telecommunication firms customer care departments they are are useless, , pretentious, immoral even, bullies. The too often perverse internal self regulation by these firms is just more unacceptable masturbation.

Clearly as per here too Primus and even most of these big corporations falsely and unacceptably do still believe that they are still above giving accountability to anyone and they do nor have to respect even the provincial laws.

The RCMP commercial crime division itself does not care if the citizens get robbed, abused by these major firms cause it is a known fact that the RCMP itself has abused the taxpayers, their money too and RCMP is also known to be cost infective, abusive, pretentious and it the RCMP as well needs to be full prosecuted and disbanded too.

see also Basic Contract law https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/virgin-mobile-canada/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/virgin-mobile-canada-has-this-breached-the-quebec-laws-3-times-now-too-in-my-case/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/virgin-mobile-canada-continues-to-falsely-lie-to-me-and-tries-falsely-to-hold-on-my-money-as-well-even-against-the-quebec-law-thread_id28512378%e2%80%9d/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/the-10-commandments-are-still-applicable-today-for-all-corporations-and-business-persons-included/

.. yes, you would think that our public and civil servants, politicans would by now know how to deal with all of these crooks without me having to tell them and all about it still.

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Virgin Mobile Canada continues to falsely lie to me and tries falsely to hold on my money as well even against the Quebec law [THREAD_ID:28512378]” .

GUESS WHAT IT IS NOW THE MONTH  of May AND MONTHS LATER SINCE February I HAVE STILL TO GET AN UPDATED CORRECT FINAL CELL PHONE BILL AND TO GET EVEN ANY OF MY MONEY REFUND FROM THESE LIARS Virgin Mobile Canada <team@virginmobile.ca>, hello@virginmobile.ca ALL WHO CLAIMED THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE..  ALL CHEAP WORDS ON THEIR PART..
 
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/virgin-mobile-canada-has-this-breached-the-quebec-laws-3-times-now-too-in-my-case/ BE SURE MY EXPOSES ON THEM ALSO COSTS THEM THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS NOW TOO
 
Virginmoble is half owned by the clearly crooked Bell.. so it is no surprise how they abuse others.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/greedy-immoral-bell-canada-lies-misleads-is-crooked/
  
Imagine this that within 15 days I should have got a final bill statement  but instead  for  months I wrote letters, I had also talked to 6 Virgin Cell phone representatives on the phone me trying  to get an detailed explanation and an itemized  final billing statement for my cell phone and cell phone number cancellation and I got many promises I would get it but I never did.. and I also got conflicting statements from the representatives  as to what the final bill includes. Such a simple procedure became so complicated and why?

These mostly still bad  Phone companies also do   have to overcome a culture, of too often thinking that they can brazenly lie their way through it all to all and they do have to recognize the deep credibility problem they do also  now face   nationally. 

MANY MANY MANY CUSTOMERS THINK THAT ANYONE DEALING WITH THE BILLING DEPARTMENTS OF THE PHONE COMPANIES IS A BIG NIGHTMRE. AND THEY ALL SEEM TO MAKE MANY MANY BILLING ERRORS IN THEIR OWN FAVOR TOO

I had already many times even in wrting, by phone asked Virgin Mobile to give me an accurate updated simple to undertsand cell phone Bill statement to me even many months ago and they said they will but so they now far have not. Now in June I  am once again being promised I will get it soon..

I had in February immediately cancelled my  cell phone member and related Virgin Mobile Canada services because of the initial poor Virgin Mobile Canada phone services I got, where I was lied to, I was even talked to rudely, etc. and I thus rightfully told them Virgin Mobile Canada that no one in his right mind would want to continue to do any service with them and so I would never use their Virgin Mobile Canada services again.

In regard to this my Virgin Mobile Canada cell number 514-942-5079 Virgin Mobile Canada itself had now advertised that if you have any Billing concerns, inquiries you are to call them at 1.866.999.4151. So what good does it do rather if you do , not rather much in my case..

But the reality is the persons on the other end of this number Virgin Mobile Canada do not want to answer or deal directly with any of my concerns, for Virgin Mobile Canada representatives  they do not want to hear any negative complaints fro me, and these Virgin Mobile Canada employees often they do threaten to hang up if I share them cause they say to me that they the  present Virgin Mobile Canada representatives  are not responsible from my problems as  the problems lay always with someone else at  Virgin Mobile Canada such as the initial Virgin Mobile Canada Phone representative that  I had first talk to, and also with  the Virgin Mobile Canada Billing and accounting mangers, or another past  Virgin Mobile Canada representative that I had talked to and thus  the problem nor the solution is not not with the present Virgin Mobile Canada customer service department representative.

So next 50 percent of the times they the clearly  useless pretentious Virgin Mobile Canada representatives I talk to they even falsely   do hang up on me and next do I have to continue to call back and try to talk with someone else at Virgin Mobile Canada as to why this whole firm Virgin Mobile Canada  they still cannot do anything right in regard to my Virgin Mobile Canada cell phone account and as usual I get no answers from  Virgin Mobile Canada  but I do get  more and more more buck passing excuses from the clearly useless, powerless,s helpless , false Virgin Mobile Canada representatives ..

Virgin Mobile Canada seems to deliberately to be continually unable to give me a corrected, accurate Cell phone  Billing statement, for the many past ones they had sent to me in March, and April are both still in error.. as I have multiple times pointed it out all even to them in writing, and on the phone now also, and on the net,  now too.

Now I was next told that al this was a deliberate Virgin Mobile Canada  act cause they do hope that the customer will simply get fed up with the whole issue and will just pay the wrong bill. It seems many people do.

3 Months later Virgin Mobile Canada even continues to break the laws of Quebec, Canada in my case and Virgin Mobile Canada does it own thing, Virgin Mobile Canada tries falsely to steal money from me for a cell Phone that I no longer have and charge ME FOR for a cell phone number that I had also cancelled, cancelled months ago by phone, in writing, and also by me  posting MY REQUEST AND DETAILS ON INTERNET on the net as well.. I had to do this cause the CLEARLY incompetent lying, immoral , useless Virgin Mobile Canada representatives as I have often witnessed now and the firm Virgin Mobile Canada itself does lie in reality.It  lie  when it says it cares about it’s customer and that any and all of it’s customers are important. Nothing can be farther from the truth since it is very likley that they way they treat me negatively.

Virgin Mobile Canada have now too many times abused me by their one way company policies that they say they do have to respect over even the stated laws of Quebec now as well, and if that is the way they likley do treat everyone else.

In THE PROCESS WHEN I continue to PHONE THEM OFTEN to try to get a n accurate Virgin Mobile Canada statement and my Virgin Mobile Canada  refund as well THEY Virgin Mobile Canada EVEN DO LIE TO ME and said they will now escalate the issue and gave me a REFERENCE CASE NUMBER 11417164 when I had already requested an escalation of the matter months ago.. Since Bell Canada  owes 50 percent of Virgin I have already also contacted them about the while matter and they too had promised to get back to me within 3 days but they too never did.

 
what another bad corporation besides Bell Canada that thnks it can abuse anyone, disrespect the Quebec laws because it is trying to make money?
 
   
and so the Virgin Mobile useless circus goes on and on.. Unacceptable…
 
From: Hello Virgin Mobile Canada
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:00 PM
Subject: We got your email! Nous avons reçu votre courriel!
 Hey there!
Thanks for your email. It’s sitting snugly in our inbox and we’ll get to it as soon as we can.
Just so you know, there is a 2 business day turnaround time for email questions. We’ll aim to get back to you faster than that, though!
Dont forget to check our our FAQ section at virginmobile.ca. The answer you’re looking for might already be waiting there. ( More likley not)Lots of love,
Virgin Mobile
 …………
and their  love is more  lying cheap words..
 
………………………
 

Virgin Mobile Canada has done this breached the Quebec laws 3 times now too in my case.

 

A Quebec Superior Court ruling has confirmed a province’s right to intervene in matters of contractual relations involving consumer protection. The provisions in the legislation target not only cellphone companies, but other industries such as internet providers and phone companies

Under the Quebec Bill 60

“If a supplier offers his cell phone service online, by telephone or through an advertisement received by mail, the law requires that he supply you with a detailed description of his offer, which must contain the following information:

  • supplier’s name, address, telephone number, fax number and e-mail address;
  • detailed description of the service offered;
  • total amount payable, including cost of service, related fees and taxes;
  • description of potential additional costs, i.e. customs tariffs, broker’s fees, other fees such as cell phone delivery, etc.;
  • transaction currency (Euro, USF, etc.);
  • if applicable, delivery date, means, time and carrier’s name (e.g. for cell phone delivery);
  • in-house policies for cancellation, merchandise returns, exchanges or refunds.

Consumer’s consent

This information must be clearly visible on the supplier’s website or, if the transaction occurred by telephone, it must be given to you verbally. The information given by the supplier must be easy to understand in order to allow you to accept or refuse the offer made before concluding the transaction.

Transmission of written contract

The supplier has 15 days to send the written contract. It must be presented so that you can keep and print a copy. This way, you can check to ensure that the contract’s content corresponds to the supplier’s offer.

Cancellation conditions

The law allows you to cancel a package when the supplier fails to respect one or more of his obligations:

You are legally entitled to cancel your contract any time before it is executed if:

  • the supplier did not give you the compulsory information;
  • the contract does not respect legal requirements.
  • The supplier is guilty of false, misleading advertisement
Contract cancellation procedure

You must send a notice of cancellation to the supplier. The law requires no specific model for the notice of cancellation or particular means of transmitting it. The cancellation takes effect the date the notice is transmitted

  • The supplier must refund your money within 15 days of the date the notice was sent. “
 
 
Now I have obtained a cellphone from Virgin  and  I have next cancelled the cellphone contract on February 16, 2011 and Virgin already is in breach of the Quebec law by to date April 25,2011 they had  not  refunded my money within 15 days nor canceling THE CONTRACT Immediately AS WELL. Virgin has also failed now to send within  15 days to me  the written contract. It has this breached the Quebec laws 3 times  now  too in my case. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/virgin-mobile-canada/
  
and what the big corporations falsely still do think they are above respecting the laws of this country, province?
 

 

 

Virgin Mobile Canada a bad firm, add to that Primus now as well

 

 Look I have rightfully hundreds of time to the government, on the net, to the news media already have said that phone companies    undeniably, unacceptable too, are a bad big despotic control freak, monopolistic, immoral, deceptive in reality, practice, and in reality most of the phone companies   do  not honour the normal, decent laws, rules, regulations. Bell Canada included   is a dictator that wants all others to play by it’s own rules. Bell does not know how to respect, keep, honour the terms of it’s contractual obligations to it’s own customers, immoral Bell rather likes to rewrite the contract continuously, one sided so that it is always better solely for Bell. Dream on..

Well even if Bully abusive Bell falsely under the guise of profitability, competitiveness, making more  profit or whatever, now still   thinks it is a big, large, established firm, corporation that does not have to play by the established rules, rather it can make it’s own rules. 

Regulators need to exist cause we all tend to know big bad corporations tend to cheat, lie, abuse the consumers.

Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law- Basic Contract law
 
Next here is basic legal, valid  understanding, terms of a valid contract, contract  law for all of the managers, president of Bell and all of  Bell employees too. Not just for any customers. Bell had, has definitely detailed, advertised it’s Internet services to all with their  terms, limitations and any customers who enters into mutually agreed upon terms, agreement with their services now forms the  essential mutually legally binding contract..
    
1: A contract is a legally binding exchange of promises or agreement between competent two parties, persons of legal age too, that the governmental court, the law of the state or province , or country next will enforce. Contract law is based on the Latin phrase pacta sunt servanda (pacts must be kept).  Anyone can enter into a contract, except minors, certain felons and people of unsound mind.  It’s important to know that not all contracts details even  have to be in writing., for instance, certain agreements can also be made and accepted orally and still be legally enforceable. While the contract agreement doesn’t always have to be in writing, all the other elements of a valid contract still have to be met, included, , fulfilled by law. The bottom line is that  the parties generally come to transactions in good faith, mutually trust and understanding, and not a one way approach, one way demands, one way relationship. All valid  courts, will not enforce, accept as valid  any contract to perform an accepted illegal act. A contract to kill some is invalid clearly too.  A person who pays for bad drugs that aren’t delivered can’t next seek the help of a court or the police in getting the money back. Unbelievable some people still do try to do this too. A valid contract also always requires the mutual parties’ consent, which must be freely made, not forced consent,  and clearly communicated to each other. Consent is not free when obtained through duress, menace, fraud,  lies, undue influence or mistakes, serious errors were presented.  Consent isn’t mutual unless the parties agree on the same thing in the same sense, a clear “meeting of the minds. One party now  presenting only their own  their terms, conditions, without the other parties approval, consent, free will   clearly is still not a valid contract.  In order for an acceptance of an offer to be effective, it must be made while the  sales, specific, fixed service offer is still open. Any  person can changes the conditions of an initial offer in responding to the offer, the old offer is clearly now rejected and the changed conditions constitute a counteroffer and that now becomes part of of any subsequent agreed upon contract. I did that with Bell now too. Once there is next a final, written contract between the parties, the parol evidence rule forbids the introduction in a court proceeding of any previous agreements between the parties on the subject matter of the contract.Only certain contracts aren’t valid unless in writing. Generally, they do deal with real property, certain specific loans, debts, money exceeding a certain amount, or contracts concerning the sale of goods worth more than $500 or one that   include  objects that won’t be performed within one year or within the promisor’s lifetime. Bell now being unable to supply me a promised high speed internet but only a low speed one is still a good example of an invalid contract even if was a written one originally from Bell.
  
2: The Specific parties. The contract must always include,  identify who the agreed upon specific parties are; usually names are sufficient, but sometimes addresses or titles may be used.   Bell and the specific customer. Me in this case.
  
3: The agreed upon object.  The Offer,  the thing, the value, the  services being agreed to is also known as the object or subject  and it itself not only  must be lawful, possible but it must be a definite, fixed, measurable amount specially now even by the laws of Quebec too. For instance Bell promising to deliver a customer a 6 meg download high speed   internet service, where they know they only have a 3 meg line capacity is not legal or legally binding contract. Bell  promising to supply their” best services “or “up to 6 megs services” is not legal as well for it is  is not really an agreed upon  fixed  object, rather the object is not definite and most customers have take that to mean 6 megs anyway. . The object of the contract does have to be very specific and measurable. It is Bell obligations now to to clerk up any ambiguity on the contract as agree upon by the comer now too. So if Bell promising a 6 megs internet services, and Bell by law  next has to deliver 16 megs to meet their promise that is also now part of the contract too. A specified length of time, such as one year does not mean the contract is still valid if Bell has not lived up to the agreed upon previously contract terms.
 
4: The outcome, or the considerations. All contracts require consideration, meaning each party must gain something fixed, tangible. It may also be something that is or isn’t done or given.   When a party agrees to do something (such as I will paint your house) or to not do something (I will not  sell my  house to anyone else for 30 days) they next also must gain something in return toy make this a valid contract, they must receive  agreed upon   fixed payment, a fixed reward. Generally, if I say I’ll paint your house, and you haven’t promised me anything in return, you can’t sue me next for not showing up because I will not receive  any consideration firstly”. Once a contract has been created, it can be determined if there are any issues that call into question of  its validity too.
   
5: Termination of contracts.  Breach of contract.  Breach of contract is recognised by the law with applicable penalties now too.  Contracts generally can only be terminated if mutually agree now by both parties as to what the terminations terms included. Parties to a contract may mutually agree to rescind the contract. In that case, the parties may agree on the duties and responsibilities of each party after the rescission. Bell still expecting  me to pay for their internet when they do not keep their promises is a breach of the contract, an invalid demand of me.   Now is the contract  price set, are promised quantities specially  determined, and is the time for performance clearly  stated? There should be enough information contained in the contract  always  that, if needed, the courts likely next  would be able to enforce the contract or determine the appropriate damages. Unless it is mutually agreed upon before any subsequent court demanded decision action,  is taken.  Fraud is the intentional misrepresentation of an important issue of the contract. The presence of fraud in a contractual proceeding makes the contract voidable by the party upon whom the fraud was perpetrated. The contract always still now binds both parties, and not just the customer to the terms, conditions of the contract agreed upon now as well.  Once it is determined that there is a contract, it it  still can, must be determined whether there are any defenses that call into question the validity of the contract.
 
Bell Changing horses, making changes, additions to the contract in midstream is invalid, a breach, still not allowed, especially without the subsequent, and pre consent, approval of both parties now still too and is a breach of contract rather. That includes Bell capping of my bit torrent downloads too on my unlimited download account
 
Yes a Bell  contract also may end because of a breach by Bell.  A breach occurs when a person, or a firm  does not fulfill his or her, their  responsibilities as promised in the contract. A breach may be minor or major. A  major breach is one that does affect the subject matter of the contract and does  affect the outcome of the contract.  Bell not having sufficient equipment, capacity in place to meet my high speed internet, is a breach of contract. This is also known as a breach of a material issue. When there has been a breach in a contract, the question of damages is raised. The damages due to a party when there is a contract breach depend on many factors, including: which party breaches, and what damages were incurred. In most cases when an injury results from a contract breach, the injured party receives money damages. Such as I have in Dec  2007 from Bell.  Bell itself has unacceptably cause now in the last 2 years many unacceptable breaches in our contract that I have clearly even in writing not accepted and have objected too and demand restitution of as well rightfully.Go back to a good school firstly Bell if you cannot understand and keep all of this now too.
 
“Despite precedents that show that contracts substantially favoring the party with the greater power often are deemed unconscionable (so unfair as to not be enforceable), lawyers stiff draft them and companies still like them.   Lesson learned: Make deals that are balanced; contracts that distribute risks and responsibilities fairly. Such deals will be honored by courts and your businesses wealth and reputation will benefit over the long term. “ http://troutmanhays.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/one-sided-contracts-are-a-bad-deal-for-all-parties-or-getting-greedy-will-get-ya/      
   
PS: “In Real Estate specifically , there it is a requirement at Law that contracts be written down in usually lengthy legal forms to avoid uncertainty, ambiguity and to be binding “.   When I asked Bell to confirm the contract I had with them in writing they next always had refused to do so..
 
 
When attempting to enforce a contract, an individual or business , even Bell should always consider the effect any dispute will have on any long-term business relationship between all of the parties involved.     

The present truths about Canada’s  phone, cell phone, internet communication businesses

Truth 1 

The federal government including the CRTC and the Consumer affairs, industry Ministers do  not consistently regulate, monitor, supervise     Canada’s  phone, cell phone, internet communication business, major telecommunications firms and their employees as well for their false, misleading advertisings, blatant lies, abusive of the customers, nor specially  for their too often bad, immoral, pretentiously lying service departments and the CRTC itself does not all even investigate, prosecute the immoral company representatives who lie, mislead the customers.
 
Truth 2
Dealing with the service departments of the internet providers, cell or phone companies,in obtain a new service or cancelling an existing services  too often is one of the worst personal experiences as these firms tend to be vague, uncooperative, unhelpful, and seem to place deliberate customer obstacles in the way. In the last year I  have personally dealt with Rogers, Primus, Bell, Virgin mobile and none of these firms customers services were acceptable.These firms have the ability to make the customer services department to be helpful, cooperative, friendly, informative, to be simplified  and to expedite  matters instead they seem undeniably to like to confuse issues, put obstacles into the customer’s ways too.
 
 
Truth 3
Canada’s  phone, cell phone, internet communication business Industry too often mislead the customers by claiming that their industry is regulated and they would not even exist in business if they had  cheated, lied, for the government would not let them, but nothing can be further from the truth now as well. For they also do lie  when it claims that it tends to follow their own High  industry standard, for they themselves tend  not regulate their own  bad employees, as their self regulation tends to be another form of masturbation.The industry standard also now generally  is one it seems of lying to the customers, the potential customers, working at obtaining and keeping the customers at any costs,immoral acts included.
 
For example many of the major internet supply firms too often too they also now  do  tend to claim , advertise the fact they do have the highest  internets speed , and a simple truth is that they all cannot make a similar statement for sure.
 
Truth 4
The phone, cell phone, internet communication companies individually like to lie, mislead the customers by claiming that their too often abusive, one sided contracts now  are all legally bind, even if they already do break even existing  federal and provincial laws even. The rather too often hypocritical INDUSTRY often still ask the customers to hold to their own definitions of the contract rules while they themselves too often undeniably do not hold the normal rules of decency and ACCEPTABLE standard.
 
Truth 5
Furthermore each firm has its own standard but not always applicable  contracts that vary significantly  between the firms as well that too often are not detailed firstly to the customers beforehand as well during the initial contract stages
 
 Look I have rightfully hundreds of time to the government, on the net, to the news media already have said that phone companies    undeniably, unacceptable too, are a bad big despotic control freak, monopolistic, immoral, deceptive in reality, practice, and in reality most of the phone companies   do  not honour the normal, decent laws, rules, regulations. Bell Canada included   is a dictator that wants all others to play by it’s own rules. Bell does not know how to respect, keep, honour the terms of it’s contractual obligations to it’s own customers, immoral Bell rather likes to rewrite the contract continuously, one sided so that it is always better solely for Bell. Dream on..

Well even if Bully abusive Bell falsely under the guise of profitability, competitiveness, making more  profit or whatever, now still   thinks it is a big, large, established firm, corporation that does not have to play by the established rules, rather it can make it’s own rules. 

Regulators need to exist cause we all tend to know big bad corporations tend to cheat, lie, abuse the consumers.

Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law- Basic Contract law
 
Next here is basic legal, valid  understanding, terms of a valid contract, contract  law for all of the managers, president of Bell and all of  Bell employees too. Not just for any customers. Bell had, has definitely detailed, advertised it’s Internet services to all with their  terms, limitations and any customers who enters into mutually agreed upon terms, agreement with their services now forms the  essential mutually legally binding contract..
    
1: A contract is a legally binding exchange of promises or agreement between competent two parties, persons of legal age too, that the governmental court, the law of the state or province , or country next will enforce. Contract law is based on the Latin phrase pacta sunt servanda (pacts must be kept).  Anyone can enter into a contract, except minors, certain felons and people of unsound mind.  It’s important to know that not all contracts details even  have to be in writing., for instance, certain agreements can also be made and accepted orally and still be legally enforceable. While the contract agreement doesn’t always have to be in writing, all the other elements of a valid contract still have to be met, included, , fulfilled by law. The bottom line is that  the parties generally come to transactions in good faith, mutually trust and understanding, and not a one way approach, one way demands, one way relationship. All valid  courts, will not enforce, accept as valid  any contract to perform an accepted illegal act. A contract to kill some is invalid clearly too.  A person who pays for bad drugs that aren’t delivered can’t next seek the help of a court or the police in getting the money back. Unbelievable some people still do try to do this too. A valid contract also always requires the mutual parties’ consent, which must be freely made, not forced consent,  and clearly communicated to each other. Consent is not free when obtained through duress, menace, fraud,  lies, undue influence or mistakes, serious errors were presented.  Consent isn’t mutual unless the parties agree on the same thing in the same sense, a clear “meeting of the minds. One party now  presenting only their own  their terms, conditions, without the other parties approval, consent, free will   clearly is still not a valid contract.  In order for an acceptance of an offer to be effective, it must be made while the  sales, specific, fixed service offer is still open. Any  person can changes the conditions of an initial offer in responding to the offer, the old offer is clearly now rejected and the changed conditions constitute a counteroffer and that now becomes part of of any subsequent agreed upon contract. I did that with Bell now too. Once there is next a final, written contract between the parties, the parol evidence rule forbids the introduction in a court proceeding of any previous agreements between the parties on the subject matter of the contract.Only certain contracts aren’t valid unless in writing. Generally, they do deal with real property, certain specific loans, debts, money exceeding a certain amount, or contracts concerning the sale of goods worth more than $500 or one that   include  objects that won’t be performed within one year or within the promisor’s lifetime. Bell now being unable to supply me a promised high speed internet but only a low speed one is still a good example of an invalid contract even if was a written one originally from Bell.
  
2: The Specific parties. The contract must always include,  identify who the agreed upon specific parties are; usually names are sufficient, but sometimes addresses or titles may be used.   Bell and the specific customer. Me in this case.
  
3: The agreed upon object.  The Offer,  the thing, the value, the  services being agreed to is also known as the object or subject  and it itself not only  must be lawful, possible but it must be a definite, fixed, measurable amount specially now even by the laws of Quebec too. For instance Bell promising to deliver a customer a 6 meg download high speed   internet service, where they know they only have a 3 meg line capacity is not legal or legally binding contract. Bell  promising to supply their” best services “or “up to 6 megs services” is not legal as well for it is  is not really an agreed upon  fixed  object, rather the object is not definite and most customers have take that to mean 6 megs anyway. . The object of the contract does have to be very specific and measurable. It is Bell obligations now to to clerk up any ambiguity on the contract as agree upon by the comer now too. So if Bell promising a 6 megs internet services, and Bell by law  next has to deliver 16 megs to meet their promise that is also now part of the contract too. A specified length of time, such as one year does not mean the contract is still valid if Bell has not lived up to the agreed upon previously contract terms.
 
4: The outcome, or the considerations. All contracts require consideration, meaning each party must gain something fixed, tangible. It may also be something that is or isn’t done or given.   When a party agrees to do something (such as I will paint your house) or to not do something (I will not  sell my  house to anyone else for 30 days) they next also must gain something in return toy make this a valid contract, they must receive  agreed upon   fixed payment, a fixed reward. Generally, if I say I’ll paint your house, and you haven’t promised me anything in return, you can’t sue me next for not showing up because I will not receive  any consideration firstly”. Once a contract has been created, it can be determined if there are any issues that call into question of  its validity too.
   
5: Termination of contracts.  Breach of contract.  Breach of contract is recognised by the law with applicable penalties now too.  Contracts generally can only be terminated if mutually agree now by both parties as to what the terminations terms included. Parties to a contract may mutually agree to rescind the contract. In that case, the parties may agree on the duties and responsibilities of each party after the rescission. Bell still expecting  me to pay for their internet when they do not keep their promises is a breach of the contract, an invalid demand of me.   Now is the contract  price set, are promised quantities specially  determined, and is the time for performance clearly  stated? There should be enough information contained in the contract  always  that, if needed, the courts likely next  would be able to enforce the contract or determine the appropriate damages. Unless it is mutually agreed upon before any subsequent court demanded decision action,  is taken.  Fraud is the intentional misrepresentation of an important issue of the contract. The presence of fraud in a contractual proceeding makes the contract voidable by the party upon whom the fraud was perpetrated. The contract always still now binds both parties, and not just the customer to the terms, conditions of the contract agreed upon now as well.  Once it is determined that there is a contract, it it  still can, must be determined whether there are any defenses that call into question the validity of the contract.
 
Bell Changing horses, making changes, additions to the contract in midstream is invalid, a breach, still not allowed, especially without the subsequent, and pre consent, approval of both parties now still too and is a breach of contract rather. That includes Bell capping of my bit torrent downloads too on my unlimited download account
 
Yes a Bell  contract also may end because of a breach by Bell.  A breach occurs when a person, or a firm  does not fulfill his or her, their  responsibilities as promised in the contract. A breach may be minor or major. A  major breach is one that does affect the subject matter of the contract and does  affect the outcome of the contract.  Bell not having sufficient equipment, capacity in place to meet my high speed internet, is a breach of contract. This is also known as a breach of a material issue. When there has been a breach in a contract, the question of damages is raised. The damages due to a party when there is a contract breach depend on many factors, including: which party breaches, and what damages were incurred. In most cases when an injury results from a contract breach, the injured party receives money damages. Such as I have in Dec  2007 from Bell.  Bell itself has unacceptably cause now in the last 2 years many unacceptable breaches in our contract that I have clearly even in writing not accepted and have objected too and demand restitution of as well rightfully.Go back to a good school firstly Bell if you cannot understand and keep all of this now too.
 
“Despite precedents that show that contracts substantially favoring the party with the greater power often are deemed unconscionable (so unfair as to not be enforceable), lawyers stiff draft them and companies still like them.   Lesson learned: Make deals that are balanced; contracts that distribute risks and responsibilities fairly. Such deals will be honored by courts and your businesses wealth and reputation will benefit over the long term. “ http://troutmanhays.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/one-sided-contracts-are-a-bad-deal-for-all-parties-or-getting-greedy-will-get-ya/      
   
PS: “In Real Estate specifically , there it is a requirement at Law that contracts be written down in usually lengthy legal forms to avoid uncertainty, ambiguity and to be binding “.   When I asked Bell to confirm the contract I had with them in writing they next always had refused to do so..
 
 When attempting to enforce a contract, an individual or business , even Bell should always consider the effect any dispute will have on any long-term business relationship between all of the parties involved.     
 

Virgin Mobile Canada even  screws up a simple cell phone and the related cell phone number cancellation procedure. Virgin Mobile Canada Customer services again  told me  today by phone that they have no power, control over the Virgin Mobile Canada billing , account procedures. statements. refunds, departments.. Now even months later from Feb 15, 2010 Virgin Mobile Canada  has not even kept any of their many last Virgin Mobile Canada promises to escalate my Virgin Mobile Canada billing statement, money refund  and on April 13, 2011 Virgin Mobile Canada BECAUSE  clearly is so incompetent they Virgin Mobile Canada that they do continually   do on the phone make useless Virgin Mobile Canada promises . Next Virgin Mobile Canada again informed me that  there is nothing else they can now even do for me cause they are the  Virgin Mobile Canada customer billing  inquiry representative and they are are only a basically useless, powerless Virgin Mobile Canada Customer billing, phone representative, and so they  Virgin Mobile Canada do not know when I will next get my due Virgin Mobile Canada credit,  my money,  my Virgin Mobile Canada cheque, my Virgin Mobile Canada final bill  in the mail, they Virgin Mobile Canada do continue to send me for moths the wrong bills, and it takes Virgin Mobile Canada 4 to 6  weeks to next  correct them so, but over 2 months had passed and they Virgin Mobile Canada have missed their original promised deadline too to do so.. so  they Virgin Mobile Canada continue to lie to me all the time.. they Virgin Mobile Canada do in writing promise you a good Virgin Mobile Canada customer service, they Virgin Mobile Canada claim they have got an award for 5 years for the best customers services, but the reality as I see it differs now  .. Now I get a new Virgin Mobile Canada promise i will get my Virgin Mobile Canada cheque 3 to six weeks from the first  week of April 2011 when my Virgin Mobile Canada account was now supposedly closed.. Virgin Mobile Canada they cannot  DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR ME HERE..The next  Virgin Mobile Canada final statement will only be billed to me on the 16 of April, plus it will take at least another 5 to 9 days and then it may be shipped to me? The Virgin Mobile Canada customer service by Virgin was, is stated to me today as being  the best in the world according to the last 5 years but my own undeniable witness and reality is that Virgin Mobile Canada statement itself as well is all crap. stating lies,  mere  useless words.. having to me no evidence of such a fact.

 

 The top 3 “Canada’s Worst Cell Phone Bill” belong to Bell, Rogers, Virgin and next no matter how their spin  doctors lie about it, make false promises to change it they all are still bad in reality. I have dealt with bad Bell, Bad Rogers and bad Virgin even as of recently and  had been on the CBC radio, TV as well complaining rightfully about Rogers too.. Now I am having problem with Virgin Mobile customer service departments..  they often make verbal and written promises to me that  they next never keep to me, so I cannot trust them at all and thus have no use for  them.

  

VIRGIN MOBILE CANNOT KEEP IT’S PROMISES TO SERVE IT’S CUSTOMER PROPERLY EVEN. Undeniable

As I have found many times in March 2011 even even weekly firsthand there is no reality between the cheap mere words of Virgin’s advertised statement for caring about the customer and next still the actual  very unsatisfactory poor Virgin Mobile Canada  customer service   provided when it comes to dealing even with a valid Virgin customer complaints.. next in six weeks now they all I had talked to at Virgin still were unable to cancel the original request of mine to my cell phone service or even to  give me a proper Virgin  finalized statement of account. and instead the Virgin customer care, the Virgin Billing and accounting departments  continued to bill me for my phone services and to disregard my requests and all of Virgin had even failed to correct their inadequacies towards me even  many times

Virgin merely does its own thing. Imagine this weeks later after I had even cancelled my Virgin cell phone they have yet even to send me in the mail a final accurate  bill statement of all things! Incompetent, pretentious, worst kind of  services.. Virgin. They Virgin now cannot even email me an update balance statement for my review.. to insure they had cancelled the phone on the date that I had requested instead I  do  get another typical buck passing from their customer service number stating that this is a another department fault.. Virgin Mobile wants me to even next  call back and talk to the Virgin accounting department, to the Virgin Billing department as well and now why do they bother even having a pretentious,  useless and toothless Virgin customer relationship department for the customers to phone to? Why??? I do even get a different version of reality everytime I talk to another Virgin representaive.. and they ask me not to put it in writing but to phone them so why is that? they the bad employees they do want no record of it.. no writen  record off the real customer abuse. Dream on and Virgin  where is my updated balance statement that i had asked for still too? They next do  promise to email me a statement but they have yet to do that as well….

 
 
 
   
I had cancelled my phone altogether on February 17, 2011, I  had cancelled the phone number as well but those liars, definite incompetent at Virgin did not do so.. they even to date March 31, 2011 did not  have the account closed but temporarily suspended and all so they can make more  money from me even charging me for a phone services I do not have. or use . Now in the last month weekly I  have weekly wrote to them even called them and they next promised me real actions, wrote further notes on the subject.. but still they did nothing.. nothing.. they lied when they say the customer is important.. making money is all they care about… 
   
PLEASE NOTE THIS Virgin Mobile Canada
 
DO TREAT ME NICE IN REALITY  FOR I AM IMPORTANT YOUR LYING WORDS, YOUR MERE PROMISES TO DO SO MEAN NOTHING TO ME
 
I was shocked firsthand now to discover firsthand how badly you do treat your customers. You certainly do not want any future repeat business from them
 
The Virgin phone company in Canada it  takes one day to activate my cell  phone but it does next wants to be paid 30 days to disconnect it.. how absurd and what a  double standard.. clearly the customer is not important as they claim but Virgin’s money making is MORE important.
 
Do also NOTE that  IF I MISS ONE PAYMENT THE VIRGIN PHONE COMPANY SENDS ME A LETTER THREATENING TO send MY ACCOUNT   TO A COLLECTION AGENCY BUT YET WHEN THEY VIRGIN SCREW UP IT IS ALRIGHT, they just say they are sorry.. and what i cannot send them to a collection agency too?
 
I had completely cancelled my cell phone, and my related phone number as well on Feb 17, 2010 and as of March 15, 2010 I still got no final statement of account  by mail.. why was that??? Virgin own  inompetencies.
 
I  also do not need any more lying double talk from the  Virgin useless representatives. The customer representative next today on the phone March 15, 2010 that I talked to told me he himself  is not responsible for the bad services Virgin gave me  but only his accounting department WAS, and  so I now asked him if he really was a Virgin phone Company representative paid by Virgin and so then actually he was now also  responsible for all of his firm’s bad services. He next agreed..
 
Virgin now also does  Lies when it  says that the customer is important.. and that it provides a good customer service as well and they cheaply say they are sorry for any bad services that I have received.. I am sorry as well.. and Virgin  mere cheap words of apology is unacceptable
 
Now I was just starting to use a cell phone but clearly next I will be looking at another provider.. cause obviously holding on to your customers is not at all important to you.. especially when you seem to want to work only 9- 5 HOURS AND  on business days only  now too.. and you want days next  to get back to me about my valid complaints now too..
 
   

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AND I RIGHTFULLY ALSO DID NOT ACCEPT THE VIRGIN   STATED CRAP FOR  THE FAILURE TO ACCESS THEIR SITE  THAT IT WAS MY  FAULT OR THAT OF MY MICROSOFT BROWSER FOR I HAD NO PROBLEM ACCESSING ANY OTHER INTERNET SITE

 
VIRGIN  MOBILE ALL  CHEAP LOVE.. ALL CHEAP TALK…
 
 
“From: Hello
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:02 AM
Subject: We got your email! Nous avons reçu votre courriel!
 
Hey there!

Thanks for your email. It’s sitting snugly in our inbox and we’ll get to it as soon as we can.

Just so you know, there is a 2 business day turnaround time for email questions. We’ll aim to get back to you faster than that, though!

Don’t forget to check our our FAQ section at virginmobile.ca. The answer you’re looking for might already be waiting there.

Lots of love,

Virgin Mobile”

NOTE VIRGIN THIS WAS A Virgin BIG LIE-”Having a problem with your Virgin Mobile Canada phone or service? We’re here to help. Contact us.” –

 
In todays modern age such poor acts of yours are ALL very unacceptable..
 
SO DO STOP LYING AND OFFER REAL , DECENT SERVICES TO THE CUSTOMER

 ///

On 4/1/2011 12:37 PM, Virgin Mobile Canada wrote:  Hello, Paul! Marlee here with Virgin Mobile, helping you out and getting you on track as quickly as possible is what I’m all about, However, there are times when contacting support via telephone is going to be necessary. Our Member Care Team will be more than happy to provide you with any information regarding the canceled account. As per privacy policies I am not permitted to access or provide information from within an account via email. You can touch base with Member care by dialing 1-888-999-2321. Advisers are ready to help you out 8:00 am to 12:00 am EST. Monday to Saturday and 9:00 am to 10:00 pm Sunday. Thank you for contacting support via email. Have a great weekend.
 
Regards,
Marlee
VMC Team
 
 Paul [THREAD_ID:28512378]” .
Virgin is clearly a  bunch of crappy liars and are all incompetent, pretenders, for  talked to their phone support by phone 5 days and all they did was, do lie.. they instead of cancelling my phone insisted on trying to make more money by not cancelling it.  I was promised last week by Virgin on the phone i would get my updated balance statement and the refund for my cell phone overpayment,  as well in the mail immediately mail by next week and so far I got neither.. You Virgin do all lie when you say you care about the customer and that you will service them properly even..
   
   So I now again phoned Virgin and Virgin now says in contrast that it will take up to 90 days for me to get my money back.  Virgin is stealing my money by not giving it back to me… next Virgin again promises by next week to have all of this issue resolved. Can you belive any of what they say for I do not..

 I had a similiar issue, problem with my cell phone refund with Rogers this year and they had returned my 151 dollars in one week.. something Virgin now cannot do and did not do  and they Virgin  lie and say they offer a good customer service..

Civil and public servants, and Phone cell companies employees are all very much the same,, they seem too often to lie claiming they will do a good job to get a pay but when it comes to delivering the work effectiveness promises they start to quote established polices.. buck passing excuses.
 
 

Straight-from-the-horse’s-mouth

Like I have too often still said
 
Vigilance, continual Vigilance is need in all areas of life it seems cause otherwise our rights are abused, overlooked, falsely censored even. Such as the ISP, Internet service providers  obligations to their customers, contractual agreements, On top of that there is no question that many major Internet corporations profit have also  been built on the back of free labor, the free contributors. Which they tend to no longer appreciated and restrict falsely access to many of these sites now instead. Ever discover that while the main search engines will readily give you a list of sites, that you may next have difficulties accessing many of these sites next ands why is that? The access and the speed aren’t too bad but still only during  certain, limited  portions of day  or night.  Such internet  traffic management is really really unacceptable. For if they were to invest in newer, better infrastructure to raise capacity, they would even get more customers. It’s much, much cheaper to throttle torrent traffic or do nothing than it is to expand the overused, obsolete infrastructure.  If even Microsoft,  corporations, companies & governments are distributing more and more  content through the internet then all of the ISPs have to keep up to date and increase their capacity in response. Other countries are embracing this, and have brighter economic futures & control, profitability, consumer satisfactions  as well.
 

72 percent of businesses say they would change ISP if their Internet connection became unreliable. The independent research carried out by Shape the Future Limited on behalf of Zen Internet, the award winning ISP, surveyed over a 1,000 Small Medium Enterprises (SMEs) between September and October. 

An important decisive factor for SMEs is the level of support provided by ISPs: 85 percent stated that the level of support was the most important criteria when choosing an ISP while the highest number of respondents, 80 per cent, considers UK based support to be very important. Some ISP providers have been criticised for taking telephone support overseas and cutting staffing costs.

Just over half of those asked, 55 per cent were happy with their current supplier and were unlikely to change, 45 percent are unhappy. and 68 per cent had not changed ISP in the last year but   13 per cent are considering changing ISP at present.  When they do, it’s mainly when there are issues with reliability, quality of service, cost or for higher speeds. It was found that 72 per cent of SMEs said they would change provider because of unreliable connection, but note only 40 per cent would change to save money.

98 per cent of SMEs consider reliable Internet access to be critical to the needs of their business. 71 per cent of SMEs thought it was important that their ISP was business orientated, as 80 per cent use the Web to locate suppliers and 76 per cent use it for purchasing activities.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/153974/small_businesses_to_isps_deliver_or_well_switch.html

Deceptive, unfair, restrictive Business trade practices by the ISP’s.
 
“A lawsuit filed against Apple and AT&T on November 4, 2008 charging misrepresentation of the 3G speed of the iPhone on AT&T’s network, has also been amended with an additional charge. The new charge claims the iPhone develops hairline cracks in the housing. Filed in the United States District Court, Eastern District of New York, Avi Koschitzki claims in the amended charge that hairline cracks in the casing of the iPhone constitute unfair practices under the New York Deceptive Practices Act. Koschitzki said the cracks appear around the camera and near the volume button on the side of the iPhone.
 
The initial lawsuit claims that Apple and AT&T misrepresented the speed of the iPhone on AT&T’s 3G network. The suit claims insufficient infrastructure of the network and the fact that so many phones have been sold that it can’t handle the volume of phones trying to use it. “Due to the overloaded 3G network, it is quite common for iPhone users to only be on the 3G network for a few minutes before being bumped to the slower EDGE network despite being in geographical areas allegedly rich with 3G network coverage,” reads the lawsuit.
 
Now we all can know that driving a sports car on an empty road produces a different sped from that when driving on the same road during peak traffic hours.
 
Now this Mis-advertisement of the actual speeds attained  also reflects the common  problem we tend to  have also in Canada with the false, misleading advertising, trade practices by Bell, Rogers, Videotron in regard to the speeds of their iphone and DSL, ADSL, cable internet services. These Communication, ISP firms amongst others are known to inflate, advertise substantially higher speeds than the consumer will actual get next get on the average, and the  next related internet congestion cause web connectivity problems, and also reductions of the downloads speeds too..
 
Now what about having now the much need real consumer protections for the citizens of Canada here as well from the greedy, lying, no good corporations?
 

The lawsuit is seeking a jury trial where they are asking for statutory, compensatory and punitive damages.” 

Time for just more of our complaining, talking  over and over again is done, rather real actions is required now even by the governments to protect the consumers.

Useful website testing speed tools  http://www.websitepulse.com/help/tools.php 

PS:The latest version of Java (Java 6 update 10) is a seriously flawed version of Java which causes numerous display and performance problems, some of which you may encounter

The only recommended way to resolve this problem is to temporarily revert to Java 6 update 7 until Sun Microsystems fix their problems. To do so you will need to uninstall Java 6 update 10 and then install update 7.

Please note that in the past older versions of Sun JAVA have been full of serious security flaws and I strongly recommend UNINSTALLING ALL PRIOR versions of SunJava thru add/Remove as well as OLD install folders PRIOR to this updated version – JUST AS A PRECAUTION –

UNLESS all the older versions are removed THERE STILL REMAINS THIS RISK.  The update doesn’t uninstall any old versions. You HAVE to go to the Control Panel and look in Add/remove programs and uninstall each one …keeping the latest, of course.

To uninstall update 10, open ‘Add/Remove Programs‘ in Control Panel (in Windows Vista this is called ‘Programs and Features‘) and remove the ‘Java(TM) 6 update 10‘ item.

Then install Update 7 from the links below.

JRE 6 Update 7 – Windows – 15.0MbJRE 6 Update 7 – Windows x64 – 13.7Mb
 

http://www.visualroute.com/support/java10.html

 

 I too have discovered often that while I personally do also have many blogs, internet sites, next my own accessibility to these sites is it seems unnecessary  restricted, difficult, and one of the main valid explanations as many of us already do know is the false periodic unacceptable capping, throttling, access restrictions,   by the ISP, internet Service Suppliers themselves. I too now do  have no sympathy for almost any of  ISPs. They firstly do still to often lie lie to get customers and next when they get them they cannot honor, keep their original promises, promised speeds and capacities  It’s one thing to gouge us all with continual increase rates but not to keep also same promised original service. No, no, no. ISPs are not only raising their rates but still also decreasing their services and the quality of it as well. 

And I used to think that Politicians were big liars..

 

And I used to think that Politicians were big liars.. till I had encountered BCE, Bell Sympatico .. by the way Cops, RCMP, Lawyers, realtors, Pastors, judges and their regulating societies too are some of the most immoral, biggest liars  now that I have encountered in my lifetime! 

Did you ever hear of someone advertising a car that could go up  to 500 kmph, and they would give you also unlimited gas to do it, but they still next did not tell you honestly, before you bought the car, or rented it now, that certain serious restrictive conditions would apply, these speeds on the average would be 25kmph and the high speeds they could not be met even 25 percent of the time-  because the racing track could not handle the speeds over half  of the time,  the allotted road, track already was overly congested, and the service mechanics seem to be busy always fixing the car so you could not use it effectively.. 
 
Now well that is exactly the kind of poor , unacceptable services I now have gotten when I got the very poor, inadequate Bell Sympatico high speed internet services.. for 75 percent of the time, during 5 months of the year Bell did not keep it’s promises to me, did not provide me with a steady, high speed, internet service.. as far as their unlimited downloads, they capped the download by as much as 90 percent almost all of the weekends, evenings without telling me now too.. and when I complain about it to them they replied as far as they Bell were concerned I had gotten adequate service from them.. what Bull , crap response was that?
 
Bell was one of the worst firms I dealt with in my lifetime.. Buyer beware of them always, they are never likely to change..
 
 
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