The unfortunate facts of life

Wrongful inactions, Cover ups, False denial of bad politicians, bad cops, bad persons, false pastors, false priests are much too common but nevertheless they do get exposed, revealed to all as to what they are often now like  too, and get what they deserve, and not the first or last time.

Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty still serves as a rightful deterrent example to all and is still one of the best approaches on how to deal with the evil persons. Even the Bible records openly the unrepentant sins of many persons and their real  negative consequences. Too many of the preachers are unacceptably also guilty of preaching “Do what I say and not what I do still too”.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/no-one-is-above-the-law/

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(Hosea 10:2 KJV)  Their heart is divided; now shall they be found faulty: he shall break down their altars, he shall spoil their images.
 
Canada -Tory MP who led anti-drug campaign charged with cocaine possession   The former chairman of the Conservative caucus who was featured in anti-drug campaign ads is facing charges of cocaine possession and drunk driving. Prime Minister Stephen Harper named Jaffer chairman of the Conservative caucus shortly after the 2006 general election. Jaffer, 37, was MP for the riding of Edmonton-Strathcona from 1997 until a surprise defeat in last year’s election to the NDP’s Linda Duncan. Jaffer recently worked for Green Power Generation Corporation, which helps bring alternative energy technologies to market.“ The Conservative party supports drug-free schools and getting tough on drug dealers who sell illegal drugs to children. Don’t let our schools go up in smoke.” perverse Rahim Jaffer This  Former Edmonton Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer is facing charges of drunk driving and cocaine possession. Jaffer, husband of Tory MP Helena Geurgis, was arrested just after midnight last Thursday night by Ontario Provincial Police in Palgrave, north of Toronto. He has been charged with driving while over the legal blood-alcohol limit, and with possession of cocaine. His licence has been suspended for 90 days and he is to appear in court in Orangeville, Ont., on Oct. 19.  Hey I have already many times written that Alcohol is also a big part of many a Conservative politicians life, and I  wanted to know how many of them now were alcoholics too.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/ 

VANCOUVER — A $5 million legal bill for defending a religious order against charges of sexual abuse has landed a B.C. senator in hot water. Sen. Mobina Jaffer, a Liberal appointment to Canada’s upper chamber, must undergo a conduct review, the Law Society of B.C. announced Tuesday. The Order of the Oblates of Mary Immaculate sued Jaffer, her son Azool Jaffer-Jeraj and their firm, accusing them of overbilling the order for legal work done from 2000 to 2004. The lawsuit was settled before it went to trial.  Now the case will proceed to a conduct review. “Undergoing a conduct review is a serious matter for any lawyer,” said Stuart Cameron, the society’s director of discipline.   Ms. Mobina Jaffer was appointed as a Senator to represent British Columbia in June of 2001.  Having been born in Uganda, and trained in law in Britain she had a  career as a lawyer and was active on many legal and charitable foundations, as well as being involved in local politics.  She was the first Muslim ever appointed to the Senate and the first African-born as well. Ms. Jaffer is the deputy chair of the Senate Committee for Human Rights and also sits on the Committees for Official Languages, Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration and the joint committee for the Library of Parliament. Anyone checked her Senate expense accounts yet too? http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/one-of-harpers-boys-in-trouble/

PQ calls for tougher ethics rules. Parti Québécois Leader Pauline Marois says David Whissell should also step down as a member of the national assembly. So yeah, Ms. Marois, about your mansion on Ile Bizard… One day after Quebec’s labour minister resigned from cabinet over his controversial stake in an asphalting firm,  http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/09/10/pq-ethics-whissell.html

Do what I say over do what I do is part of the hypocrisy now existing too often too at all levels, federal, provincial, municipal and not just in many preacher’s lives now as well..
        
MEANWHILE  Taiwan ex-leader jailed for life BBC News  Taiwan’s former President Chen Shui-bian has been sentenced to life in prison after being found guilty of corruption by a court in Taipei. Mr Chen was charged with embezzlement, taking bribes and money laundering, involving a total of $15m (£9m) while in office from 2000-2008. His wife, Wu Shu-chen, already jailed for perjury in the case, was also sentenced to life for corruption.  The two were accused of embezzling $3.15m (£1.9m) from a special presidential fund and laundering it through Swiss banks.  They were also accused of accepting at least $9m in bribes from a Taiwanese company to help it sell a piece of land to the government and of accepting nearly $3m more in kickbacks for helping a contractor gain a government project.  Mrs Wu had been sentenced on 2 September to one year in prison for perjury for asking her children to lie in court. Nine other accused, including Mr Chen’s son and daughter-in-law, have pleaded guilty to some charges related to the case. 
  
A Peruvian court has sentenced former President Alberto Fujimori to six years in prison after he pleaded guilty to authorizing wiretaps and bribes to politicians, journalists and businessmen. “   No such thing as justice in Canada– at least, not as far as our politicians are concerned.  ”   http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/09/30/peru-fujimori-bribe-wiretap-sentence.html
    
One of the highest ranking Taliban officials in Pakistan has been arrested with four other militants in the country’s north-west, officials say. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8249869.stm

Sep 10, 6:12 AM CP  HALIFAX, N.S. – A judge in Nova Scotia will begin hearing arguments today on whether to certify a class-action suit against the Roman Catholic church over the alleged sexual abuse of children by its priests.  John MacKiggan, a lawyer representing the claimants, says he will present arguments to a Supreme Court justice over the alleged decades-old abuse in the diocese of Antigonish.    The lawsuit was launched last year by Ronald Martin, whose brother wrote a suicide note in 2002 that led to charges of sex crimes against a priest from the diocese. In the suit, Martin claimed the diocese failed to protect children in its care when it became aware of the alleged abuse. The church reached a proposed settlement with the plaintiffs last month, but it has to be certified by the court. The judge also has to approve the proposed settlement of more than $13 million, which would be available to people who were allegedly sexually assaulted by any priest of the Catholic Episcopal Corp. of Antigonish since Jan. 1, 1950. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090910/national/ns_diocese_lawsuit

 

Former N.S. bishop charged with possession of child porn.  Raymond Lahey, the former bishop of the diocese of Antigonish, is known as the man who oversaw a $15-million settlement with people who said they had been sexually abused by priests in the diocese dating back to 1950. He was arrested at the Ottawa Airport last week after members of the Canada Border Services Agency performed a random check of his laptop computer. Lahey has been charged with distributing and selling child pornography.  On Saturday, Lahey, 69, announced his resignation as bishop of the Antigonish diocese. In a letter to parishioners, he said he needed time for “personal renewal.” http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/09/30/ns-bishop-charged.html

 
 
and what some fool in false denial would try to sayto me next  that we  cannot judge what others say, do,  write still too?
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
 
 
 
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Bad pastors, bad elders, bad cops, bad politicians  continue to exist  cause likely their supporters are  bad too.  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
 

 

Bad people try to do many things.. if others let them do it as well..
   

Sinners

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 One of the worst things you can do is to think that such a person, spouse, relative, family member, pastor, politician is a nice guy, OR ANY INSTITUTION, CHURCH NOW AS WELL  and so it  is worth being worshipped, praised.. well cause very shortly God will show you really what even the person now is really like, a sinner like all the rest of us.. and the political party, organization, church you worshipped..  If you also do try to maintain you are a good person now as well, God will not let that false pride stand before him as well and he will show to you and many others what you really are still are like.. For God is a jealous God and will have no false  idols NOW before him.. God says without me you can do nothing, nothing good that will last permanently, that the canker worms will next not destroy as well.. I have seen so many good guys in my life, some have been my close good friends, but real life next showed to us all what they really were like next too.. sinners.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/

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 If we all got what we are due.. it would be Hell.
 
(1 Ki 8:46 KJV)  If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;
 
(Eccl 7:20 KJV)  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
 
(1 John 3:6 KJV)  Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
 
(1 John 5:18 KJV)  We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
(John 15:5 KJV)  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 16  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 15:7   If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
 
(Prov 8:13 KJV)  The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy,
 
(Prov 11:2 KJV)  When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.
 
(Prov 16:18 KJV)  Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
 
(Prov 29:23 KJV)  A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
 
(1 John 2:16 KJV)  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
   
(2 Cor 11:2 KJV)  For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
 
(Isa 14:11 KJV)  Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. (Mark 9:48 KJV)  Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
 
(Isa 51:8 KJV)  For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool: but my righteousness shall be for ever, and my salvation from generation to generation.
 
(Psa 22:6 KJV)  But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
 
(Isa 41:14 KJV)  Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.
 
(Jer 17:5 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. 6  For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. 7  Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. 8  For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
 
(Deu 27:18 KJV)  Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.
 
(Jer 48:10 KJV)  Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.
  
(Exo 34:14 KJV)  For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
 
(Deu 4:24 KJV)  For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
 
(Deu 6:15 KJV)  (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
  

GET REAL NOW

I do not really worry about what is happening in the world, but rather mainly what is happening in the Churches,  for judgment begins in the house of God. God is still coming for a church without spot and blemish
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One of the worst things you can do is to think that such a person, spouse, relative, family member, pastor, politician is a nice guy, OR ANY INSTITUTION, CHURCH NOW AS WELL  and so it  is worth being worshipped, praised.. well cause very shortly God will show you really what even the person now is really like, a sinner like all the rest of us.. and the political party, organization, church you worshipped..  If you also do try to maintain you are a good person now as well, God will not let that false pride stand before him as well and he will show to you and many others what you really are still are like.. For God is a jealous God and will have no false  idols NOW before him.. God says without me you can do nothing, nothing good that will last permanently, that the canker worms will next not destroy as well.. I have seen so many good guys in my life, some have been my close good friends, but real life next showed to us all what they really were like next too.. sinners.   https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/sinners/
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(1 Cor 2:2 KJV)  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.  (Gal 6:14 KJV)  But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
 
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The last thing on my mind when I go to a new evangelical Christian church is that I will be abused, lied to, slandered, robbed, misused, persecuted  but sadly now too often these days that is not the reality. Why?  Not just the ungodly Liberals but the far right itself often still coerces  others who do not go along with them by “Borking” them.   Now ”Taiwanizing”  means calumniating, ostracizing, excluding and hopefully ultimately de-legitimizing a country. Doing the same thing to a person is called “Borking”. Borking  is “to attack a person’s reputation and views unfairly,” includes the concerted attack on the  challenger’s  character, background and philosophy.. Both Liberal and  Conservative activists have been making the same action over and over again in regard to  the so called  their opponents, news media,   reporters: The borked opponents aren’t debated but merely  shut  down, censored,  their free speech denied, and often next immediately they are forcibly removed, kicked out, never allowed to be discussed again too by anyone,  and hopefully insuring their person and his views being totally excluded from the rest of the local group, community.  The borked opponents aren’t debated but merely  shut  down, censored,  their free speech denied, and often next immediately they are forcibly removed, kicked out, never allowed to be discussed again too by anyone,  and hopefully insuring their person and his views being totally excluded from the rest of the local group, community. The fact this is too often practiced in too many evangelical churches of all places is astounding. The real Irony and hypocrisy is the right wing often claim they rather now are being Borked even while they are Borking the others.;  Example to fire an honest government official in an attempt to prevent embarrassment to and exposure of a dishonest government officeholder who has conspired to commit high crimes, the 1973 unacceptable firing, massacre of Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox by Solicitor General Robert Bork, orchestrated by both  Bork and President Richard Nixon . 
 
 As a professional, University graduate I now  was always solely responsible for my work output, no one told me how to do it too, I had always worked on my own with minimum supervision. When I   stepped   into a church, in many or most churches I was, am treated as if I am now in pre school generally, where I am immediately given a whole bunch of rules, even as to where I can sit, what I can wear, how much money I should give to the church, what I can do and cannot do etc.. mostly a totally demonic, controlling, dominating environment, so much so that  I rightfully often think that  the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ themselves are not allowed to express themselves, not given freedom to manifest themselves too. If I dare to openly question anything I  am threatened with police action and immediate church dismissal too. Forget about being showed mutual respect in this caged circus rather. This is all just perversity and not freedom in Christ.  Thank God that not all churches now are like this.
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(Gal 3:26 KJV)  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

as to some  (Job 13:4 KJV)  But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.

(1 Cor 14:29 KJV)  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

(1 Cor 14:31 KJV)  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

Colossians 3:21 “Fathers, provoke not your children [to anger], lest they be discouraged.”  Matthew 7:3  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

The Bible itself cleary posts the name of many of those now who had sinned, and did not repent, and some of their negative consequences too, as a warning to all the others who would equally be now next tempted to sin and not repent . Bad shepherds, priests, ungentle control freaks  included who had allowed the flock to be abused.

I USED TO BE NAÏVE ONCE AS TO WHAT GOES ON IN CHURCHES AND WHAT PASTORS CAN BE REALLY LIKE NOW TOO. ALSO WHAT POLITICS, JUDGES, LAWYERS, COPS, PROFESSIONALS CAN BE LIKE TOO.  A BAD PASTOR FIRSTLY TO REPENT NOW NEXT TOO? DON’T too often now EXPECT FOR SURE A MIRACLE HERE OVERNIGHT TOO.

I still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride. Sadly I have often been in bad Christian churches where the clearly crooked pastor Stéphane Chauvette Associate Pastor  to turn off attention off himself would bash some other churches, some other denominations and some other persons, but all that bashing of his now did not still deny his own sins and his own wrong doings though now. The Bad preacher are not the only ones who can preach about other people’s sins and demand others to repent, so can I, bad pastors now included and I rightfully  do often as well. The older I get being falsely persecuted  next in the House of God, evangelical churches firstly now, seems to be a norm for me rather than an exception.. 

 

Their CONTROLLING BEHAVIOR, their false dominating behavior,  is Public Enemy Number One.. If you are a   Control freak you are not only still an unrealistic, immature, immoral person  but you  may have a serious personality disorder.  Slave drivers are driven by the devil.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/ http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

While Moses was a great example of meekness it seems many pastors are not these days.. they are anything but meek, they are rather controlling, harsh, unkind,  dictatorial, abusive, insulting, unloving,, rather I have often also met in evangelical circles the despotic foremen,  dictatorial types, bully, jungle fighter   leaders, the same persons who think they are supreme over all others, they can take the law into their own hands, and even do what they want over any others, physically now as well. I have not totally now understood how these unacceptable, abusive slave drivers got to this personality stage or why they falsely think in their abusive pride they will get away with it forever now as well. And yet they mostly lie and deny these sins, falsely claiming rather they are good, loving, kind..

(Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2  Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3  For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceived himself. 4  But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5  For every man shall bear his own burden.

Now as I was also reflecting about my many past posts on the net  in the last few years I was really saddened to note that too many of them were about bad , greedy people trying to steal , trying to get other people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting  it under false pretences. The love of more money is still the basis of what many of the wrong doings is, was all about..(Eccl 8:11 KJV)  Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil

I was also very sad to note as to how many evangelical, Christian  pastors, politicians falsely approve of drinking alcohol even though their real Christian colleagues preach against it..   Fundamental evangelical pastors preach it is a sin for any Christian to drink alcohol, Liberal Christians such as Catholics or Eastern Orthodox church say it is not. But one thing no one can deny is how harmful drinking alcohol is.. in Russia 60 percent of men and women die due to drinking alcohol.. how much hurt and damage does alcohol drinking cause in Canada? and how much money does it costs the taxpayers now too? Much too much too.

I have often heard it said that most Canadians Canada wide now are still like fearful sheep they are too ready to be fleeced, sadly it also seems they must have ostrich genes in them for when you present negative truths they tend to often rather bury their heads in the sand as well it  seems.. especially in in too many of the evangelical churches.. or  the ostrich sheep in Alberta who also now too often seem to think no Conservative politician can ever do any wrong rather it has to be the other bad guys, you know the liberals. Or the BQ separatists, the communist NDP… Ironically the wolves in sheep clothing exist Canada wide, in evangelical churches, political circles too now, and I guess for me telling the truth that is why so many of them hate me, do not hesitate to ban me or kick me out of their often also  bad churches now too..

I had attended a recent comical church service,  New Beginnings Ministry 9412 Rue Clement Lasalle, QC H8R1T5 Phone: (514) 363-1080., a farcical circus, not the first time now too,  where the pastor Stéphane Chauvette Associate Pastor was preaching about everything, bashing everyone else, but somehow he could not keep his own promises, his  own word, or stay on a specific valid subject. And he made it clear if you  rock his boat he will next also kick you off the ship.. The modern Christian evangelical fundamentalism demands a false blind obedience to a one man minister, ministry and all that he says and falsely bypass the mutually submissiveness eldership rule pattern set forth in the New Testament, book of Acts now as well. This bad fundamental church is no exception to this.  FaLSE, CULTISH CHURCH LIKE THIS ONE, LESS THAN A HUNDRED PERSONS NOW TOO, THE 2 PREACHERS THERE THEY LIKE TO JUSTIFY THEIR SMALL NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY PREACH THE TRUTH, THUS  THEY ARE A REMNANT, SPECIAL,  DISTINCT GROUP  OF TRUE BELIEVERS. Would be a lot better if they acted now like true genuine  true Christians firstly, and practice  real love towards others  too. This hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of this New Life Beginnings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly  now  for us not to believe any of the news media and for us not to  have anything to do with any person who drinks wine **, and to stand up against all of the people who do any wrong, to even openly speak to them, ( as long as it is not the pastor himself  for sure) and yet he lied and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him.. for next  I thus told him that our evangelical Canadian PM Stephen Harper, the supposedly good Christian now drinks beer/wine, well the pastor really got upset at me for this..  since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refused to further talk with me  and said  he was tired now, he  refuses to hear any of that, he refuses to believe any of that, for that is all gossip,  slanders, and also we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for this supposedly Christ like church and their false professing Christian love, false brotherly love, their supposed openness now, and one’s free speech too..

(Mat 24:48 KJV)  But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49  And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50  The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51  And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13   But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

** The Pastor had said that God does not let us to talk to anyone who drinks wine, but this is a rather distorted, extreme interpretation of the Bible, The Bible clearly says WE ARE NOT TO FELLOWSHIP WITH A CHRISTIAN PERSON  WHO GETS DRUNK.. now that is really different from not talking to any of the people who drink wine.. and why is this pastor so ready not to talk with others now too? so ready to smite them, to kick them out of church? If you have love for someone you are willing to talk with them, but if you do not have love for them, especially if, when you know they do not support you, do not agree with your presentation, do not agree  with your point of view, you as a pastor too now can personally can instead  refuse to love them, you refuse to talk to them, you find any excuse to reject, ostracize, divorce them basically to deny, to cover up the unacceptable reality that you yourself the pastor actually do not have any love for them.

Our Freedom of speech to many of these despotic, self centered, agenda oriented  preacher  is generally one way, they alone are allowed to do all of the talking, and no one else, everyone else is only allowed to listen is also what I have directly experienced here too. If you challenge what they say they falsely do immediately divorce you, even physically assault you and kick you out of the church now too.  The same pastor says he does not believe anything the news media writes at all. So who does he believe? only himself it seems and anyone else like minded. So what truth is he really now peddling, a distorted ones clearly. For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? Why did this pastor? They can only face the negative reality from a distance… Not  the first time I do now meet such fundamental ostriches.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/

Please do have the local LaSalle police remind the pastors, elders, members, adherents of this Pentecostal church that is is still illegal for the pastor or anyone else now there too to physically assault anyone, even if it is in their church. They may have a right to ask anyone to leave their premises, but as I have witnessed myself now they do not have a right to physically grab, lay hands, assault any person in their church even now too especially when he did nothing wrong.. That right is only for the police and is limited for them as well.. If someone next after being asked refuses to leave the church when asked they can call the police. I told them that I was glad to leave this church on my own free will and will be just as glad not to come back too.


Honor Killings, Violence. In reality too the Cops themselves, RCMP included, now   are not the only one who resort to violence when their authority is threatened, so do some clearly bad, hot tempered evangelical  pastors now too..  I too before have already experienced in Canada  a  direct physical assault of me by  a rogue Pentecostal pastor who had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too,, in front of a witness, backed up with a police report , cause I had refused to go to his church. An another Pentecostal pastor and even a church elder,  were  attempting to physically abuse me to stop my public revelations of his unacceptable acts, thefts of money too. and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter who also had experience physical assault attempt  by a Plymouth Brethren pastor. But none of this should be a surprise when a pastor’s authority, financial security is threatened ehh..
 
OVER MANY YEARS I HAVE LEARNED THAT PERSONAL, RELIGIOUS CONFLICTS SEEM TO BE UNAVOIDABLE EVEN IN ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCH.. AND WE ALL SHOULD KNOW AS TO HOW SHOULD WE DEAL WITH THEM, REACT TO THEM.. MANY PEOPLE FALSELY RUN AWAY FROM THEM, TRY TO DENY THEY EXISTS.
 
It is a basic fact the we must all learn to live, communicate in love with one another, and his communication does not mean we have to accept all wrong doing now as well for the devil and his followers will often come to us to try to cause false bondages upon us, to detour us or divert us from the freedoms, truths that we all do we have in Christ. And it is very likely if you or the leader refuses to talk with someone it is really cause you do not love them as well.
 
(2 Tim 1:7 KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
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One of the things I have found also so confounding is how many contradictory preachers can be filled with both truths and lies, falsehood, errors and how come? Why is that?   I was passing through the city of Chicago on the way to Winnipeg and I had decided to stop in a Fundamental  church, that I had read about in Christians magazines, books now too, this Church had regular Sunday services casting out demons out of Christians too. I was dismayed to  hear the preacher at a Sunday morning service also preach that the Russians had an army of tanks on the US border in Canada ready too invade the US, and most people there had next accepted this as the truth. Funny or sad  how so many people seem to be ready to believe gross lies over the truth, reality  from their leaders now even  in churches as well. For certainty I next saw no Russians tanks at the Canadian border when I drove on to Calgary Alberta as well.I HAVE BEEN TO MANY VARIOUS DIFFERENT CHURCHES, SERVICES AND WHEN I HEAR PASTOR TRYING TO TELL ME HOW GREAT THEIR CHURCH SERVICES ARE COMPARED TO OTHER CHURCHES, I CAN MAKE A VALID REAL COMPARISON NOW TOO. THE FACT THIS PREACHER  IS BOASTING ALREADY LIKELY CLEARLY MEANS HE MISSED THE MARK OF A GOOD SERVICE.(Prov 27:2 KJV)  Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips. (1 Cor 14:33 KJV)  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.(James 3:16 KJV)  For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

I have often encountered preachers who claimed they alone were good persons, but the reality was far from it, and visible to many next too.

The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others.

So you boast you do not steal, or commit tax EVASION,  but next you lie, slander, bully, abuse others.. just are as guilty as if you had stole now too.

Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too serves everyone’s best interest.

(Prov 4:14 KJV)  Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men. 15  Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away. 16  For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. 17  For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. 18  But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. 19  The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

(Prov 5:22 KJV)  His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins.

(Prov 6:16 KJV)  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

SEE ALSO

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/

Being overly assertive is as bad as being overly submissive.. it is an unacceptable imbalance

(Zec 11:17 KJV)  Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Pay back, revenge

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 Revenge and anger tends to amplify our worst  tendencies but we all do need a  stark reminder that all persons now are still  responsible, can be and will be accountable  for what they do, say, in churches, in the open, online or  otherwise. Pastors, elders, individuals included. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/the-unfortunate-facts-of-life/
 
 
(1 Tim 1:9 KJV)  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
 
(2 Tim 1:13 KJV)  Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. (1 Cor 2:2 KJV)  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
 
(2 Tim 4:3 KJV)  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
 
(Rom 1:28 KJV)  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30    Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,  31   Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32    Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
(Phil 2:2 KJV)  Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3  Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. 4  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:6  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7  But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8  And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
 
(Titus 1:9 KJV)  Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. 10  For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. 12  One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. 13  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; 14  Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
 
(Phil 3:18 KJV)  (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.  20   For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
 
(Titus 2:1 KJV)  But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2  That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.  3  The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4  That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5  To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. 6  Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7  In all things showing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine showing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8  Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
 
It is very likely of you refuse to talk with someone it is really cause you do not love them as well.
 
(Rom 16:17 KJV)  Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
 
(1 Cor 1:10 KJV)  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
 
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV)  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
 
(1 Cor 11:18 KJV)  For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
 
(1 Cor 1:31 KJV)  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
 
(1 Cor 2:1 KJV)  And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3  And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4  And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5  That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
 
(1 Cor 3:21 KJV)  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; 22  Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 23  And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.
 
(2 Tim 1:7 KJV)  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
 
OVER MANY YEARS I HAVE LEARNED THAT PERSONAL, RELIGIOUS CONFLICTS SEEM TO BE UNAVOIDABLE  IN ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCH.. AND HOW SHOULD WE DEAL WITH THEM, REACT TO THEM.. MANY PEOPLE FALSELY RUN AWAY FROM THEM, TRY TO  DENY THEY EXIST. THEY NEED RATHER TO LEARN TO DEAL WITH THEM IN LOVE.
 
It is a basic fact the we must all learn to live, communicate in love with one another, and his communication dos not mean we have to accept all wrong doing now as well for the devil and his followers will often come to us to try to cause false bondages upon us, to detour us or divert us from the freedoms, truths that we all do  we have in Christ.
 
(Mat 18:1 KJV)  At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?  2  And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5  And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7  Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8  Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. 10  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
 
11  For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12  How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13  And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14  Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
 
15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17  And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican. 18  Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.19  Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20  For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
 
21  Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
 
(1 Pet 3:8 KJV)  Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
 
(1 Pet 3:9 KJV)  Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. 
   
(Rom 12:19 KJV)  Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20  Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21  Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
 
(1 Tim 6:18 KJV)  That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
 
(Heb 13:16 KJV)  But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
 
 
Talk in love to the people who do wrong, offend you.
            
 
 
 

You cannot judge me

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1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
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2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2 Timothy 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
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Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
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You cannot judge me! Judge not.. I Like those hypocrite who never read the Bible and quote falsely a verse out of the Bible like do not judge others, but they still do judge me when they quoted the verse too.. but yet hypocritically you dare to judge me yourself.. why is that? you personally do not practice the Bible? and clearly still do not practice what you preach to me, others?
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The blind accuser of me, clearly rather the ignorant fool cannot see his own, always still justifiable now too according to him, sin , wrong doing is now still so ready to take on other people sins, but this act of his still will not make his own wrong doings go away ehhh.. He clearly even shows to many his own ignorance in the Bible and his lack of practise in reality, for the Bible does not now forbid judging all others, otherwise why would the fool himself try to do it?
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Was firstly your own exemplary meekness, real love evident or only STILL your false condemnation now of me, and any others? (Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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The Bible forbids only the unrighteous judgment, had you really read it now you would have known that too… do you pick the parts of the Bible you like only or do you apply all the parts of the Bible to yourself firstly such as
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Apostle Paul said he was, is the chief of sinners himself.. “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief .“—I Tim. 1:15 the same Apostle Paul who now also judged and rebuked apostle Peter for his sin as well .The Record of the Apostle Paul Rebuking Peter Galatians 2:11-21 , Apostle Paul Rebuking Peter, Because Peter Was Wrongly Treating the Gentile Believers as Second-class Citizens (Gal 2:11 KJV) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. so you also not longer respect apostle Peter as well because he continually also now sinned while following the Lord Jesus? (Mark 14:72 KJV) And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shall deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.
Webster’s defines the act of judging as “to form an opinion about through careful weighing of evidence and testing of premises.” The problem arises because judging can be subjective. In other words, your judgments are based firstly on your own perceptions, motives, and understandings. This is why two people can judge the exact same situation and come up with different determinations. Did you with Katherine Khulman, examine her whole life, what she lived, preached, taught or just by one bad past act of her you condemned her falsely? Since the judgments of man are therefore rooted in the “opinions” of man or of a women, no man’s judgments can be taken as absolute or complete truth. What did God tell you now about her himself? Jesus was able to hear God’s words to pronounce God’s judgments. “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24). We must have our will in full subjection to God’s which enables us to know God’s own words on every subject and allows us to be sent by God to others with His message. Or did you now even bother to pray to him about her before you ran away with your condemnations? The Word of God says that God enables man to judge righteously, commands man to judge righteously too, and is pleased with those who seek to judge righteously . The fact that the desire to judge righteously is highly esteemed by God. King Solomon asks, “Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?” We are also told not to judge according to appearances or by the flesh (John 7:24; John 8:15; James 2:1-4).
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 This means that sound judgment cannot be based on what we see, hear, or think. Since God’s thoughts and ways are are higher than ours, He is not bound by our perceptions, opinions, or prejudices. This again is a confirmation that God alone is The Judge. Our judgments must therefore be based in His direct words to us in order for them to be true. So how is your real, direct communication now with God, does he talk and commune with you in all things?
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The Bible forbids only the unrighteous judgment,
I Corinthians 11:31-32 that we judge ourselves first so that we will not be judged
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(II Chronicles 19:6) “…Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.”
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A  false “accuser of the brethren.” is evident by ones clear absence of real love for them too.
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(Prov 31:8 KJV) Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. 9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
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(1 Cor 5:12 KJV) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
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(1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
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1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
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(1 Cor 10:15 KJV) I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
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(1 Cor 14:29 KJV) Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
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(1 Cor 14:40 KJV) Let all things be done decently and in order. and “Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus” (Colossians 3:17).
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Galatians 6 1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
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It is always evident that the mostly still liars, people claiming to be good persons, who try to enforce the one way rules on others, those even they do not practice, are still just liars and hypocrites.. and of course they do not want you to judge them, to know and expose this to any others..
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But a person is known by the company they keep.. One having  bad company leads to one going to hell too.. tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are now.. a person is also know by what he does, and the values he or she have.. some people have bad values, some people falsely go extreme with good values..
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Now real Biblical repentance evident and it includes s admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God,  and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition,   change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also  a personal, ongoing event. It is visible to all now too..
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Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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 (Rev 18:4 KJV)  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Rev 18:5 KJV)  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.  
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Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
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Mat 7:19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.  16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17    And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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2 Cor 6:14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Cor 7:1  Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 
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Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. “
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But who am I to say? I’m not his judge”???
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If you yourself now cannot judge what people are like so how can you see the devil then too?
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You yourself are not Holy Spirit filled even then.. one needs to deal with that firstly.. Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments  of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person.. (2 Cor 2:11 KJV)  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
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There is no such thing as living in a world in which individuals are not being judged by others for the actions that they take or what they say. Making a statement such as, “you cannot judge me”, is ludicrous.  A Christian person still can judge another Christian’s individual’s behavior or actions, writings, speech but not the intent of any individual’s heart. Only God can do that.. But God alone will judge the non Christians, not us, and we cannot judge what other people do eat as being right or wrong.
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Had you read your Bible seriously you would have known all this this 
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(1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?
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Prov 27:5  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Rev 3:19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Hey I point something out to a net poster, or a church goer, and he goes haywire.. such as when I honestly, lovingly say as “how can you go to a Christian Church and really, obviously still do not know God, Jesus, the Holy spirit personally”? now have you also experienced that? I have too often for my liking the last 4 decades even.. I am nice to the good persons and the bad person gets what he deserves..
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When we do not like to be rebuked. Revenge and anger tends to amplify our worst  tendencies but we all do need a  stark reminder that all persons now are still  responsible, can be and will be accountable  for what they do, say, in churches, in the open, online or  otherwise. Pastors, elders, individuals included.
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I too do not spoil or baby him, like his mother or someone else likely did .. ehh..  and next he gets really upset, he cannot accept any rebuke, critics, advice.. he gets easily angry, revengeful persons and so on and claims he is a real born again Christian but resorts to a hot temper, to slanders, lies, distortions, fighting, threats, blackmail..  .. so where are, were  their own  fruit of the Holy Spirit?  
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Hey I admit it I dislike those evident  show off, competitive posters, preachers  rather  those still novices, who want to ASAP preach to everyone else, clearly still  not led by the holy spirit, because we the older ones can tell how little they still really do know.. .. it seems they do need their diapers still changed.. “crap”… by the way they do also  often next get really upset and tell me that a man of God does not speak that way to anyone.. they are ignorant of how all the Prophets spoke in the Old Testament Bible.. they also did not use sweet sounding words, pleasant phrases.. God does not spoil us too.. he may be a good of love but he is never ever  dumb, unwise.. I am nice to the good persons and the bad person gets what he deserves..
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(Mat 11:16 KJV)  But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
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Canadian Catholics flee Liberals in droves

A Catholic Priest had rightfully said that the professing Christian the now ex Liberal  Prime Minister Paul Martin should be excommunicated from the Catholic church also, FOR HIS SUPPORTING GAYS, GAY MARRIAGES, AND NEVER MIND HIM ALSO SUPPORTING ABORTION AND ALCOHOLISM, and while the Liberal spin doctors next  said this was a non critical issue, well it appears Paul Martin should have   been  excommunicated from the Church but  should have also been also excommunicated from the Liberal party for  HIM BEING ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS HIS PARTY LOST DEFEAT TO THE NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY AND IT NO LONGER CAN GET BACK  UP ON IT’S FEET AS A RESULT IT SEEMS TOO.

Finally in  Canada the LIBERAL NEWS MEDIA IS NOW SERIOUSLY RECOGNIZING, NOTICING THE EFFECT OF THE RELIGIOUS PERSON’S VOTES.. it is kind of  too late for them and others to do it too once they the relgious right  had helped to form and to elect  the Reform Party to eliminate next the Progressive Conservative federally and also had next helped to form, elect the new Conservative Party to to defeat the Liberals..  

I have been detailing for decades the significant influence in Canada  that the Christian priests and pastors have on their congregation, others. Few people had wanted to admit it at all.

So the Federal   Liberals for their past support of gays, abortions are now paying a big  price for it .. they are even broke.. no money.. and had lost too many supporters.. they reaped what they had sowed..

Liberal G Kennedy in Ontario is the choice of the religious right as well. Thanks to even ex PM Paul Martin  who seems to be dreaming of a comeback too Canadian Catholics flee the Liberal Party  in droves too. 

“Catholics flee Liberals in droves  Catholics have always voted Liberal, until recently As Canada’s once-mighty Liberals consider their future, they might be advised to visit a local church-and not just to pray for the party. The religious vote, it seems, played a major role in their recent election defeat. According to new data from Angus Reid Strategies provided exclusively to Maclean’s, Catholics-who make up 44 per cent of Canada’s population and have preferred the Liberals for decades-are flocking to the Conservatives. Catholic voters back parties that are community-minded, says Andrew Grenville, Angus Reid’s chief research officer. And in 2006, for the first time, they shifted their support to the Tories. This year’s results confirm the trend: outside Quebec, 49 per cent of Catholics who attend church weekly voted Conservative, compared to just 38 per cent in 2004. Within Quebec, where upwards of 80 per cent of the population identifies as Catholic, the switch away from the Liberals is even more striking. In 2008, just 22 per cent of Quebec Catholics voted Liberal, compared to 56 per cent in 2004. “Looks like we have a new status quo,” Grenville says. It’s not just Catholics who’ve had a change of heart. Protestants, who make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties, but over the last four years, there’s been a big shift toward the Tories. In 2008, 64 per cent of church-going Protestants outside of Quebec chose the Conservatives, compared to 51 per cent in 2004. Voters who attend so-called conservative churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite, and Stephen Harper’s own Christian and Missionary Alliance) prefer the Tories in even greater numbers: a whopping three-quarters of them voted Conservative this year. What does it mean? “The Liberals have alienated their base, which shows how weak their support really is,” Grenville says, adding that he isn’t very optimistic about the party’s immediate future. “I can’t see Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff appealing to that vote either, which is in part why their prospects aren’t too bright.”

And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

 
“SUSAN LAZARUK and ANGUS LOTEN Montreal Gazette Just four people turned out for a rally against gay marriages in front of Paul Martin’s constituency office in LaSalle yesterday afternoon. Calling themselves “true Christians,” the tiny group joined hundreds of others across the country yesterday at what they called a national prayer vigil urging MPs to vote against same-sex marriage legislation. Organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people to more than 200 prayer rallies across Canada. “I have nothing against gay unions. What I don’t like is the prime minister telling us what to do in our churches,” said Paul Kambulow. Kambulow said he learned about the rallies, organized by a coalition of religious groups, over the Internet. “I believe in democracy and God plus one is a majority vote,” he said. Martin, who could not be reached for comment, was not in his office yesterday. Elsewhere in Montreal, similar prayer vigils also appeared to fizzle, as few people showed up at the riding offices of other federal MPs. Journalists outnumbered protesters in front of Justice Minister Martin Cauchon’s office. “Same-sex marriage is completely opposed to God, his principles and why he formed man and woman,” said Jackie Bourque, one of nine protesters, including a couple of children, who gathered on the steps of Cauchon’s office. “He did not form Adam and Steve, but Adam and Eve.”

PS Only 4 persons had showed up to pray against the then Prime Minister Paul Martin MP and he Paul Martin unexpectedly, unbelievably shortly after that had lost his office of Prime Minister, and why did so many people show up in the first place? God only needed 2 persons to agree in prayer on this in Jesus name and he would have acted upon it as well. The prayer meetings had fizzled out? you now got to be joking.. they had did their job.

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Report card: Failed- Canada’s hospitals and Health Ministers

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And you did know that many people tend to get more sick around these holidays and often die as well.

Hospitals in Canada are mainly still here for the good care, safety, health of the patients. But this is not happening too often. For example- All the hospitals must exercise “the greatest control over all aspects of the work over all of the staff, doctors, nurses, technicians included . But undeniably in Quebec too too many nursing employees were, are working for private agencies outside the hospital, so a full accountability, control is clearly lacking. Even in Quebec now there still is a growing reliance by hospitals, old age homes, on using private nursing agencies. Bad nurses and bad doctors rarely face any negative personal consequences. The gravy trains have to be discontinued.

The Quebec government itself now for decades is soft on crime and is wrongfully reluctant to punish any of the bad guys cause they would likely have to start also with themselves. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/positive-changes-need-to-start-at-the-top/

 
Which now reminds me can you please tell me specially the statistics per province, and city, as to the actual number of people who had died in 2010 due to a hospital acquired sickness? Specifically
1: Shit disease, C-difficile
2: Gastritis- food poisonings
3: VRE
 
Some things seem to never change, such as cold calloused, pretentious governmental Ministers, Health Ministers and their subordinates especially  included mostly all  who really do not care if the others live or die, as long as they alone survive  it seems still too. http://thenonconformer2.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/so-who-what-are-the-causes-of-our-inadequate-medicare-in-canada/  
 
 It seems our Prime ministers, Premiers, politicians care only about the medical care they get.
 
I could not help but notice and read often the great newspaper articles about heart care tips.. but what about all of those people where these same  tips are too late and the mostly pretentious health care is not there now for them.. how does any of this help them but who really cares?
 
Now face it to get get real health care you have to go to the emergency department of a big hospital and you first have to get the attention of the emergency department, the triage  care givers, that is if you can get past those preeminent security guards there, those too often pretentious triage nurses, medical interns who screen all the patients firstly.  
 
But if you still are not dumb to recognize that now hiring 12 nurses or 6 medical interns who get the same pay as one doctor cannot, does not make up, compose even one qualified medical doctor firstly as well you tend to get what you deserve it seems…
 
Most Nurses have 2 years of training while the real doctors have at least a decade, so they the real doctors do have both a deeper and wider applicable   knowledge base too.
 
 In Canada, many people, citizens  are needlessly dying because the hospital infection rates continued to rise  and all of the Health Ministers should be hung for this now immediately too, for murder, and I have been now saying that rightfully and openly for years now too.. do immediately deal with it. Report Card” Canada’s hospitals and Health Ministers are really  not doing enough to fight infections: while the Doctors take big pay cheques still home 
 
 
The C. difficile nightmare goes on too
 
Despite political focus post-SARS, hospital infection rates  The Canadian Press –  TORONTO – Toronto’s SARS crisis and Quebec’s C. difficile nightmare drew political attention – and additional funding – to the problem of hospital-acquired infections.
Canada’s hospitals not doing enough to fight infections: Report Calgary Herald
Report: Hospital infections on the rise Globe and Mail
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“CP Despite political focus post-SARS, hospital infection rates continued to rise   TORONTO — Toronto’s SARS crisis and Quebec’s C. difficile nightmare drew political attention – and additional funding – to the problem of hospital-acquired infections. But despite that, rates of these infections continued to rise in the years immediately following the outbreaks, a new study reveals. Rates of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus – known as MRSA – more than doubled in the period from 1999 to 2005, said the study, which was based on a survey of Canadian hospitals with more 80 or more patient beds.  Clostridium difficile infections ( shit  disease ) also rose over that period and the number of hospitals reporting new cases of infection with vancomycin-resistant Enterococcus climbed 77 per cent over the period. “Despite the two major communicable diseases – SARS and C. difficile – despite the emphasis by the Canadian Public Safety Institute on safer health care, despite all those things, our institutional approaches to infection control have changed remarkably little,” said Dr. Andrew Simor, head of microbiology at Toronto’s Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre. Simor was not involved in the study. “And the outcomes, as a result, have gone in the wrong direction.” The survey was conducted in 2006 by researchers from Queen’s University in Kingston, Ont., and was a follow-up to an earlier survey conducted in 1999. Both were funded by the Public Health Agency of Canada. The results, which will be published in the December issue of the American Journal of Infection Control, showed that while hospitals reported an increase in staff devoted to infection control, increasing numbers of patients fell prey to hospital-acquired infections. There were 5.2 cases of MRSA per 1,000 hospital admissions in 2005, up from two per 1,000 in 1999. There was also an upward trend in C. difficile infections, and the number of hospitals reporting new cases of infection with VRE soared. “We have to roll up our sleeves,” said lead author Dr. Dick Zoutman, head of infection control at Kingston General Hospital. But while the numbers don’t look good, the director of infectious disease prevention and control with Ontario’s public health agency raised a couple of important caveats. Dr. Michael Gardam suggested hiring new infection control staff is only one step in improving a hospital’s infection control performance. Real improvement requires a commitment and effort from all those involved in patient care in an institution, he said – and that takes time. “Rome wasn’t built in a day,” Gardam said. “You need to have more infection control practitioners. And you need to bring about culture change. And just doing the resources side of things I don’t believe will actually get you there.” Gardam also suggested the numbers might have been worse but for the injection of resources that followed the 2003 SARS outbreak and the C. difficile crisis, which first came to light in 2004. “Probably we are having an impact, we are slowing the increase,” said Gardam, who was not involved in the study. “But we’re not actually achieving a real steady state and we’re not actually seeing a decrease.” That’s especially worrying given the current state of the economy, said both Zoutman and Simor, who noted that infection control efforts are an easy target when hospitals are trying to cut costs. “I’m concerned now that it’s more challenging economic times … that we don’t lose (sight of) this,” said Zoutman. “Because it’s a false economy. It’s penny wise, pound foolish.” “
 
More causes of health problems.  Melamine is sometimes illegally added to food products in order to increase the apparent protein content. Manufacturers knowingly and intentionally mix Melamine, which has some rather nasty ingredients, in our milk. To mix this product, they needed the use of formaldehyde, which is a very toxic and nasty ingredient in itself. Where has the integrity of our products gone? It seems like in the venture of profit many companies will trick and deceive customers into believing whatever they are ingesting is good for them. One important matter though is that, it is not only China who is doing such acts. Many companies everywhere are also putting toxic ingredients in our food and beverages without exactly telling us about it. http://augustafreepress.com/2008/10/13/haresh-daswani-watching-what-you-eat/
 
Medical tests
 
We trust  the medical tests being done, but how effective are they, and what they have a 50 percent error rate still, even the blood tests or xrays and they all do have to be often redone, at least 3 times or replaced with another more valid  medical test? or what you did not know this too?
   
Secondly most of the initial doctor  prescribed medical test for potentially serious  heart problems are really pretentious, cheap, ineffective, basically  all useless, and are mostly now used because the real valid medical tests such as the Echocardiogram   are mostly unavailable and too costly to be used immediatley too, for most people who reallly do need them.
“Some noninvasive Heart tests, and not all of them are fully effective even.. most tests still do require professional diagnostic experiences solely by quailfied cardiologists.
  • Resting electrocardiogram (ECG or EKG)
  • Signal-averaged electrocardiogram (SAECG)
  • Chest X-ray
  • Holter monitor (ambulatory electrocardiogram)
  • Echocardiogram
  • Exercise stress test
  • Computed tomography (CT) scan
  • Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)
  • Magnetic resonance angiography (MRA
 The  echocardiogram is a test in which ultrasound is used to examine the heart. The equipment is far superior to that used by fishermen. In addition to providing single-dimension images, known as M-mode echo that allows accurate measurement of the heart chambers, the echocardiogram also offers far more sophisticated and advanced imaging. The first test that should be done for most people with potential heart problems often seems rather firstly reserved for the pregnant mothers rather still too.” http://www.heartsite.com/html/echocardiogram.html
Based on that above  facts alone a triage Medical  doctor said today to me that he would love to hire me to help out in his emergency clinic, since few people do now even have that essential knowledge of the causes of  medical heart problems grasp, and what about you?  Or are you another one of those people who will let most of the really sick and needy  heart patients die next needlessly too by doing nothing good about it too?
 
  

 

The parents Lisa Guerin and Jonathan Hope  of a 16-month-old girl who died  are guilty of failing to provide the necessities of life, a judge ruled The two were ordered to stay in custody until March 19, 2010 when a date will be set for sentencing. This also applies to all bad doctors and nurses, Health ministers now too  who fail to adequately look after any sick patient.
 
Here is some more abuse details  I rightfully do not accept at all not even quietly now too

After the elections Sarah Palin

 Now that the election is over, and Barack Obama has been elected as the 44th President… are we still going to hear about Sarah Palin? Or will her name become obsolete? After elections, the opponent that loses usually disappears within a week after the election… but this is Sarah Palin we’re talking about… 
 

75 percent of evenagelcials still did not vote for Obama, or 49 percent of the voting US population..

“The media is already harping on the fact that 60 percent of voters expressed doubts about Sarah Palin being ready to take over as President should something happen to John McCain.

But if you study the exit polls carefully, there is no evidence that this fact actually influenced the vote.

When people were asked if Palin’s presence on the ticket was an important factor in their decision, 60 percent answered yes, 33 percent no. But of the 60 percent that said yes, 56 percent ended up voting McCain versus 43 percent Obama.

On the other hand, of the 33 percent that said no, only 33 percent voted McCain versus 64 percent Obama.

What does this mean? People who thought Palin’s presence on the ticket was important were more likely to vote McCain by a significant margin. So the media is allowing their bias to influence the interpretation of the data.

You can look even closer than that. Palin was picked specifically to influence a few key demographics for the Republicans – women, independents, white evangelicals and gun owners:

– White women voted McCain/Palin 53-46. That’s within the margin of error for how Bush/Cheney score with the same group in 2004, 55-44.

– White independents voted McCain/Palin 49-47. There are no comparable data on this group for 2004, but we do know that independents went for Kerry 49-48 in 2004, and 52-44 for Obama this year. It’s safe to conclude that the swing to Obama in this category was caused by non-white independents voting overwhelmingly for the Democratic ticket.

– White evangelical/born again cCristians voted McCain/Palin 74-24 in 2008, which is slightly lower than the 78-21 breakdown in 2004. But their share of the total vote was larger this time than last time (26 percent in 2008 versus 23 percent in 2004), so on balance the white evangelical/born again contribution to the Republican vote was probably about the same size as it was in 2004.

– Gun owners voted for McCain/Palin in the same numbers they voted for Bush/Cheney last time round: 62-37 in 2008 versus 63-36 in 204

So, in those four major target groups, Palin delivered the goods for the McCain campaign. These are groups that were skeptical about McCain before Palin joined the ticket.

In all four categories, the McCain/Palin share of the vote was virtually identical to the Bush/Cheney share in 2004. That seemed impossible before Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin will be a force to be reckoned with over the next four years.”

http://www.thesarahpalinblog.com/

Sarah Palin In 2012


It was a teary-eyed Sarah Palin who waved to the crowd in Phoenix last night and is now on her way home to Alaska to split time as Governor and Mom.

She has a son in Iraq, a daughter pregnant and an infant with Down Syndrome.

She has her hand’s full.

But she has made it clear that this is not the last we will see of Sarah Palin.

“I’m not doing this for naught,” Palin said last week, when asked if all the mudslinging in the campaign made her long for a return to the more sedate politics of Alaska, where she is governor.

After McCain’s stinging loss, Palin, 44, has emerged as one of the strongest brands the Republicans have got.

As one of the most recognisable figures in a party searching for direction and new leadership, Palin’s future role will be a major theme when Republican heavyweights weigh up strategies for the 2010 mid-term congressional elections.

“She definitely is going to be the most popular Republican in this country when this thing is over,” Republican strategist Ed Rollins, and former political director to president Ronald Reagan, told CNN before the election.

And the carefully coiffed conservative Christian who cast herself as a maverick, a reformer and an anti-corruption star, has clearly indicated the 2008 run wasn’t an end-all to her national political ambitions.

“I think that, if I were to give up and wave a white flag of surrender against some of the political shots that we’ve taken, that would bring this whole” endeavour to nothing, Palin told ABC last week.

In the last pre-election episode of NBC’s Saturday Night Live, comedienne Tina Fey, in her much lauded role impersonating Palin, made a show of “going rogue” from the McCain campaign talking points by trying to hawk “Palin 2012” t-shirts.

At Republican rallies in recent weeks supporters too have been seen displaying “Palin 2012″ shirts and banners.

There has been talk in Hollywood of Sarah Palin getting a talk show; talk in Washington of Sarah Palin as the best fundraiser the Republicans have; talk in Alaska of Sarah Palin running for the Senate.

There is a world of options in front of Sarah Palin. She is the star of the Republican Conservative base and if you think she will stay in Alaska for long – you’re wrong.”

http://www.thesarahpalinblog.com/

 if you think the evangelicals have died for long – you’re wrong

Sarah Palin fires back at ‘jerks’ Los Angeles Times – The governor and her aides dispute claims about her foreign-policy knowledge and $150000-plus wardrobe. By Seema Mehta and Maeve Reston Alaska Gov.
Palin Denounces Her Critics as Cowardly ABC News
Palin Calls Criticism by McCain Aides ‘Cruel’ New York Times
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Readers Respond: Bush and His Critics Wall Street Journal –  The reader response to “The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace” has been overwhelming. Here’s a selection from the thousands of comments submitted by Opinion Journal readers: Finally, someone with the guts to stand up for W. 
 

The Faith Factor 2008 vs. 2004 — Exit Polls

“”We worship an awesome God in the blue states,” Barack Obama declared during his 2004 Democratic convention keynote. Thunderous applause greeted that line, in part because Democrats felt frustrated that they’d been unfairly cast as a secular or even anti-religion party, and by the political dominance of religious conservatives.”

The Rise of the Religious Left. But clearly Obama still did not get the evangelical votes.

The Faith Factor 2008 vs. 2004 — Exit Polls

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http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/obama-triumphs-will-be-first-black-us-president/

 

Ten Faith Factors for Election Night

1.How Many Obamagelicals Are There? – It might seem farfetched that a socialist-terror-lovin’-pro-abortion candidate like Obama could win any evangelical Christians but he’s been courting them fervently since he began his presidential run. The key the 40% of evangelicals who call themselves “moderate” or “liberal.” Point of reference: John Kerry won 21% of white evangelicals, Gore 18%. Bill Clinton in 1996 won 26%.  

2.  Will Palin Turn Out the “Religious Right”? — By picking Sarah Palin, John McCain gambled that she’d be able to rev up the evangelical “base.” Even as her popularity has fallen generally, evangelicals still love her (some even believing she was sent to battle the anti-Christ.) Assuming most conservative evangelicals vote for McCain, the second question is: how many will show up? Point of reference: white evangelicals accounted for 23% of the electorate in 2004.

3. Do Midwestern Evangelicals Split With Their Brethren? — Recent polls have showed Obama trailing badly among evangelicals in Florida and Colorado but doing quite well with them in Michigan, Ohio and

Pennsylvania. If he succeeds there, he may have tapped into regional differences in style, theology and politics and launch a new era in faith-and-politics punditry, in which we no longer talk about “the evangelical vote” as a geographically uniform phenomenon.4. Will Catholics Ignore Their Bishops? – The overall Catholic vote has gone with the popular vote winner every election since 1968. Catholic Bishops have been urging Catholic voters to vote for pro-life candidates but a majority of Catholic voters are now pro-choice so it remains to be seen what influence the church will have. (Obama is also winning with the 100-year-old-nuns bloc) Another factor in Obama’s favor: a higher percentage of the Catholic vote will be Latino this year. Last election, George W. Bush won the Catholic 52%-46%.

5. Can Obama Finally Bowl a Strike With Skeptical White Catholics? – During the primaries, Obama did poorly with white Catholics, often working class ethnics or their offspring. Remember his feeble attempt to curry favor through bowling? They tend to be culturally conservative and haven’t voted for a Democrat since 1996. On the other hand, they’re especially concerned about the economy this year, and Joe Biden has been trying to bond with them as a fellow “cultural Catholics.” Point of reference: In 2004, Bush won 56% of white Catholics, Kerry 43%.

6. Will Whitebread Protestants Back the Black Guy? – Recent polls show Democrats gaining with a group that had leaned Republican for most of the past few decades – Mainline Protestants. It appears that while Sarah Palin energized evangelicals, she may have alienated some Mainliners. In 2004, they went for President George W. Bush 54%-46%.

7. Will Latino Protestants Vote Their Values or the Pocketbook? – One positive trend for Obama will likely be the shift of Latinos from the Republican side, where they resided in 2004, to the Democrats. The hidden religious story: most of the shift is driven by Latino Protestants. Many are evangelical and liked Bush’s Christian faith and his conservative positions on social issues (gay marriage, abortion) but have shifted to Obama because of the economy and concerns about immigration.

8. How Will the Kinda-Sorta Religious Vote? – In recent elections, the most religious you were, the more likely you were to vote Republican. This is known as the God Gap, which will still certainly exist. But watch for two things: among weekly churchoers how big is McCain’s margin? Bush won that group 61%-39% Second, Kerry last time beat Bush among more occasional churchgoers 53%-47%. Will Obama increase that margin?

9. Will Jews Schlep to Republican Side? – This only really matters in

Florida, and even there it doesn’t matter as much as you’d think (Jews made up 5% of the electorate there in 2004). Early polls had Obama struggling among Jews – in part because of fears about his former church’s connections to Louis Farrakhan — but more recently he’s caught up, possibly because Jews fear that Sarah Palin is an extreme evangelical. Or possibly the Sarah Silverman factor. Jews reportedly went about 75%-25% for Kerry.10. Will the GOP Become the ROP? – Will Republicans become the Religiously Oriented Party? In 2004, white evangelicals made up 36% of Bush voters.
Will that go up or down? If it becomes an even more dominant force within the party, how will that shape either the way McCain governs if he wins or, if he loses, how the Republicans re-invent themselves.

Carla Hinton  Religion Editor http://blog.newsok.com/religionandvalues/2008/10/31/389

 

so what do you say  about the faith factor…

Though the economy clearly was the defining issue of the election, Obama forged a new coalition by luring millions of religious left voters who had avoided Democrats in recent years.

In short:

He narrowed the God Gap. Bush beat Kerry among weekly church-goers by 61%-39%. McCain is beating Obama 54%-44% Most of that gain appears to have come from Protestants rather than Catholics

He won Catholics back. Early exit polls indicate he won 54% of the Catholic vote compared to 45% for John McCain. George W. Bush won the Catholic vote 52%-46%. Most of those gains came from Catholics who don’t attend mass weekly.

He also improved among white Catholics, according to the early exit polls. Bush got 56%-43% As of now, McCain lead by just 51%-49% This was despite an aggressive push by more than 50 Bishops to encourage Catholics to focus on abortion as the central issue.

He man real gainst among Evangelicals. Evangelicals and Born Again Christians made up a greater portion of the electorate this year than last election but that didn’t all accrue to McCain’s benefit, as predict. Obama improved slightly on a national level, getting 25% compared to Kerry’s 21%

But far more important, he made significant progress in the pivotal rustbelt states that won him the election. For instance, evangelicals flooded the polls in Ohio and Obama significantly improved on Kerry’s showing.

He attracted more Mainline Protestants — Though shifting toward the center in recent years, mainline Protestants — once a core of the Republican party — – still went for the Republicans in 2004. The exit polls didn’t ask specifically about mainline Protestants but it appears Obama improved slightly with this group.

He energized the lightly religious. Though secular voters already voted Democratic, they did so by an even bigger margin this year. Even more important, a quarter of the electorate says they go to worship services but only a few times a year. Kerry won that group with 54%-45%. Obama won 61%-38%

BREAKING: Catholic Shift to Obama

The rap on Obama during the primaries was that he couldn’t win because he struggled with Catholics. Apparently, he got past that. Early exit polls indicate he won 54% of the Catholic vote compared to 45% for John McCain….

Obama Luring Rest Belt Evangelicals But Not Southerners

Obama seems to have made far more progress with Born Again Christians in rust belt states than in the South. Based on preliminary exit polls: Florida: 78%-20% (McCain-Obama) Virginia: 78%-21% Ohio: 70%-29% Indiana: 66%-32%

BREAKING: Weekly Churchgoers vs. Occasionals

One thing that puzzles me about these numbers: Obama’s progress among Catholics is with those who don’t attend mass weekly. But among Protestants, he improved among those who do attend weekly. One possible theory: abortion. Mass-attending Catholics are more likely…