Rev George Mueller

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Now about Christians Helping Christian poor people.” (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.(2 Cor 9:9 KJV) “(As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remained for ever. “The Bible clearly says we are to help the local poor people in our own churches, neighborhood  willingly.   1 Tim 5:8  “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”  2 Cor 9:7  “Every man according as he purposed in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver.” (Rom 15:26 KJV) For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.Our responsibility is mainly two fold we donate freely as we want firstly to the local poor Christian  persons in our own local churches… and secondly we need to insure that the donations is entrusted for distribution directly to the  reliable persons, so that it actually reaches the poor persons.. (1 Cor 4:2 KJV)  “Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. “ Since we all do know the temptation to steal abounds even in the Church, religious organizations.It still seems most of the donated money never reaches the destinations still.There is still the obligation of all poor persons to pray in faith  to directly for their needs and to expect God to meet their needs and not man.

It was interesting that Rev George Mueller was able to raise millions of dollars by donation, without once sharing the need publicly too.  

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 (1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
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Praise His name..(Rom 8:28 KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (Rom 1:17 KJV)  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
         
So now always I had to learn to trust God to supply my needs, to protect me. Many people when they encounter hardships, problems, difficulties, losses they do loudly start talking to others..so they start  telling many others their problems, they here are even falsely  expecting others to help them.. But they falsely do this instead of getting into one’s secret prayer closet , there praying to God and next letting God to supply the needs.. 
  
 I too now had to learn to trust God to supply my needs, to protect me… as you too will be very disappointed looking continually for any man to help you.. you firstly do also have to learn to see your God as your sole provider. Now also here what I used to do is I would now weekly make a written list, I  had called it the Lord willing list.. and I  would write down what I  wanted to get and what I  wanted to do and next I  told no one about the list, no one , no one but I had waited for God to work on it and he did always.. 
Many people when they encounter hardships, problems, difficulties, losses they do falsely and loudly start talking to others..so they start telling many others their problems, they here are even falsely expecting others to help them.. But they falsely do this instead of getting into one’s secret prayer closet , there praying to God and next letting God to supply the needs.. Mat 6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Prayer is the key for all events, all results in everyone’s lives too.
 
Mat 6:5  And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Mat 6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Mat 6:7  But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Mat 6:8  Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Mat 6:10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Mat 6:11  Give us this day our daily bread. Mat 6:12  And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. Mat 6:13  And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Mat 6:14  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: Mat 6:15  But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Mat 6:16  Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Mat 6:17  But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face; Mat 6:18  That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. Mat 6:19  Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: Mat 6:20  But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: Mat 6:21  For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Mat 6:22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. Mat 6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! Mat 6:24  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Mat 6:25  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Mat 6:26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Mat 6:27  Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? Mat 6:28  And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: Mat 6:29  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat 6:30  Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Mat 6:31  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? Mat 6:32  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. Mat 6:33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Mat 6:34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
  
(2 Cor 4:16 KJV)  For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
  
(Luke 18:1 KJV)  And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint; and do see also
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I too also do have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now steal, are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.  
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 I have often now encountered  the hireling in the evangelical churches, you can spot them by their concerns  for their housing allowance, filthy lucre, pension fund, and their begging for  money  ( Hab 2:4 KJV)  Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in  him: but the just shall live by his faith.  (Rom 1:17 KJV)  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. (Heb 10:38 KJV)  Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. Do see https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
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Bad people try to do many things.. if others let them do it as well..
Bad pastors, bad elders continue to exist  cause likely the congregation is bad too.  (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof? (Acts 1:20 KJV)  For it is  written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man  dwell therein: and his bishopric let another take. 
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https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/spirtual-abuse-by-the-so-called-christian-leaders/

 

http://pbulow.tripod.com/Hireling.htm

 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/about-those-hirelings-now-fleecing-the-sheep/

 

http://sacred-truths.blogspot.ca/2011/12/money-and-ministry.html

 

 

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 Now about tithing..
 
While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet.. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/ 
 
 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
 
Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
 
It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
 
When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?
So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seemsMany Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..
(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
  
One of the first essential Social action as defined by the New Testament Books of Acts was the appointment of deacons   and was also,  still is,  for the helping of the poor and needy persons in the local Church. This was also true even in the Old Testament where 1/7 of the tithe was given to the local poor persons.
 
(Acts 6:1 KJV)  And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. 
 
 >>There is only one ‘expert’ on church planting and that’s the Lord, and Zech. 4:6 warns us that it is not by might or power (and not by man’s wisdom- 1 Cor. chaps. 1-2). God told us to start a church in August of 2003 with no funds, no supporting churches, etc.- i.e., nothing other than God’s leading. A missionary and experienced administrator talked with us, and told us we were violating ‘every rule in the book’ and that we were headed to be another one of the failed plants in our area (of which there have been many). We obeyed, and God blessed, and here we are as Calvary Chapel Space Coast ready to send our first full time missionary, and start another church campus. All by God’s grace, and all for His glory!

I ran a home church for about 2 dozen poor persons for years, and I fed them every week freely too, and I never asked ANYONE FOR MONEY, never took one offering too, God supplied all I needed too.

“Secondly a true Christian Ministry starts  solely as a Faith Ministry, trusting in God to supply all of the needs ,and not rather being weak in the faith, by starting a tax exempt and a marketing commercial Corporation, even  selling Books, tapes, video and  things, also now openly begging, begging,  begging OTHERS FOR MONEY..” for example  with false posts like like this.. ” I have incorporated as a nonprofit under the name “A Christian Ministries, Inc.”  This is a pretty hefty step for me.  It takes what has been a full time hobby and gives it legs to maybe be a full time full time endeavor into the future.  Ultimately, the goal is for ACM to be self-sufficient, paying for itself off of book sales and products sold to churches, etc.  At this time, however, donations are helpful.  If that is of interests you, you may use the Paypal/credit card link on the ACM web page.  ”
 
As a direct result some people who do donate the money  also do try to influence what can and cannot be preached too and do tie the hands of God here. Thus the  Church Committee itself has to approve everything too.
I rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church  now trying to make any money from  the gospel, or begging, asking for money or even  any of the adds here.  I also do not endorse any of  Bibles, books, tapes listed here for sale too. Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don’t do that. I do believe we should have the faith for God to supply what anyone needs  freely to anyone who needs it.  “Rev George Muellar did.”
 
 Note My sites solicits no funds, or donations, or money what so ever.. ( nor does it sell any Christian supposedly literature, media) and it has no political, denominational affiliations, aspirations. Do use and Distribute all this material freely.


Faith Ministries and the EXAMPLE OF Rev George Mueller
 
The proper Christian Example– “No More Rich Seat/Poor Seat .  George became the pastor of a small church in England. The church wanted to pay him a good salary from the money it received renting pews to rich church members who sat at the front of the church. (Poor members had to sit in the “cheap” seats in the back.) George told them that this had to stop if they wanted him to be their pastor. Even so, he did not allow the church to pay him a salary. He trusted God to meet his needs, and God did. George and his family never missed a meal and were always able to pay their rent. George began to sense, however, that God had something else for him to do. Praying Food into the Home.   Each day as George walked the streets, he saw children everywhere who had no mom or dad. They lived on the streets or in state-run poorhouses, where they were treated badly. George felt God calling him to open an orphanage to take care of the children.  George prayed, asking God to provide a building, people to oversee it, furniture, and money for food and clothing. God answered his prayers. The needs of the orphanage were met each day. Sometimes a wealthy person would send a large amount of money, or a child would give a small amount received as a gift or for doing chores. Many times food, supplies or money came at the last minute, but God always provided without George telling anyone about his needs. He just prayed and waited on God..  More than 10,000 children lived in the orphanage over the years. When each child became old enough to live on his own, George would pray with him and put a Bible in his right hand and a coin in his left. He explained to the young person that if he held onto what was in his right hand, God would always make sure there was something in his left hand as well.
 
 

Do you see any similarities between George Mueller’s and the Apostle Paul’s decisions to follow Jesus? How did George change after he became a follower of Jesus?

  1. What did Mueller mean when he told the orphans to “hold onto the Bible in your right hand”?
  2. Describe a time when God has answered your prayers and provided for you or your family.
  3. Do you live by faith in God, to provide your needs, or do you rely on others, your job, your own efforts still?

(  Ironically many of his present supporters beg for money, sell his Books also  to make money, instead of praying.) http://chi.gospelcom.net/kids/glimpsesforkids/gfk008_2.php

 
“HOW TO ASCERTAIN THE WILL OF GOD
  • 1. I seek at the beginning to get my heart into such a state that it has no will of its own in regard to a given matter. Nine-tenths of the trouble with people generally is just here. Nine-tenths of the difficulties are overcome when our hearts are ready to do the LORD’s will, whatever it may be. When one is truly in this state, it is usually but a little way to the knowledge of what His will is.
  • 2. Having done this, I do not leave the result to feeling or simple impression. If so, I make myself liable to great delusions.
  • 3. I seek the Will of the Spirit of God through, or in connection with, the Word of God. The Spirit and the Word must be combined. If I look to the Spirit alone without the Word, I lay myself open to great delusions also. If the Holy Ghost guides us at all, He will do it according to the Scriptures and never contrary to them.”
George Mueller 1805-1898  –from the classic biography of George Mueller, “George Müller of Bristol,”
 

 (Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding of receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!  

Open rebuke is better than secret love. Those who sin rebuke before all, doing nothing by partiality, and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke before all as well. I   post  much of these facts, truths openly to all presently so they will all even repent today. 
I rightfully  do not put up with any crooked cops, bad pastors, crooks and  I readily call the police, expose them , demand openly their full prosecution, dismissal too. Originally I gave many of them the doubt, but now I am convinced that most of them are deliberate, conscious crooks, specifically “hirelings” who should be fired, dismissed
 
 
I also had sent my complaint to major news editors, major MPs, all the members of the legislatures in 4 major provinces now as well asking the government to deal with the false solicitation of funds, tithes under lies by any of the crooked evangelical pastors too. 
 
 Now at lest even the bad pastors also least cannot deny the fact they were given a chance to repent.. for it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. I have fired many pastors, seen the white terror on their wives faces when they also do see me.. they have the holy shakes, a spirit of holy fear..  the present public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s’ best interest still.
 
I ALSO RIGHTFULLY DO FIND IT CRUEL, UNBELIEVABLE THAT ANY PASTOR  WOULD EXPECT  NOW THE SOCIAL WELFARE RECIPIENT TO TITHE SO THE PASTOR NOW  CAN HAVE A NICER CAR, A NICE HOME.

THIS ALL IS UNACCEPTABLE AND UNDENIABLE TOO.

I think we can agree that people world wide will read these posts,   and  that they will be upset by it and prosperity and properly respond to it too in Jesus name..
 

 

No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

 

Rev George Muller, famous founder of the Bristol orphanage, was one of the best-known early Plymouth Brethren figures . Mr. Muller also had a public falling-out with Darby. Those who sympathized with Darby became the “Closed Brethren” and those who sided with Muller were known as “Open Brethren.” The two strains of Brethrenism endure even today. A It was Rev George Mueller who had introduced D L Moody to the Plymouth Brethren, and it seems when George Muller of Bristol came up against the Dispensationalist doctrines of the Brethren movement, he severed all connection with it.  http://newleaven.com/2008/09/11/the-nlt-study-bible-on-the-breaking-of-break-in-luke

All pastors, they can merely live by faith in God to provide and now discontinue from giving out tax receipts on all donations and thus be free to speak as any ordinary citizen can. The Bible does not prohibit them from doing this now as well like Rev George Mueller did too.
 
And I agree, 100% of all Churches too of all denominations should be annually investigated as should all politicians too (those who govern/lead through laws) even in regards to possible abuse of the collected donations. Some people think that Separation of Church and State politics, is the main issue that will help to stop the acts of much too many bad guys in politics and religion.. There are bad guys, bad Ministers now too continually in or out of religion in fact.
Separation of Church and State politics, and related corruption is just a very small small portion, issue.. Rather all major perversions, corruptions by anyone, politicians, priests, pastors are, is unacceptable anywhere and at anytime too. For both politicians, Pastors and cops all civil and public servants too are here to help look after the good welfare of the citizens and if they are not doing that JOB NOW properly they all should be helped to become unemployed for sure BY THEIR CORRUPTIONS, ABUSES BEING EXPOSED TO ALL..
 
Religious or not is not the issue.. but the second law of engineering thermodynamics is, energy goes from a higher level to a lower level, it degenerates, meaning even water unrestrained flows downhill, or 30 percent of all people need to be put into a real jail it seems before they will stop their wrong doings and start to do good.. reality.. for self supervision or self regulation does not work, crudely it is just masturbation.. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.

The really bad persons. even bad elders, bad pastors too now,  unless they are exposed, punished will likely never change for the good on their own in fact? Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty works best for everyone. Now I have been writing letters to news editors, governments. for that is part of their job now too, and I have helped in exposing the bad guys and the bad corporations for decades too and thus rightfully helping to get rightfully deal with some of the really unacceptable bad guys and so should we all..

The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America. I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too.

For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.

It seems these days Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised?
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/who-is-next/

And Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….

 Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media with copies to the elected officials

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/seperation-of-the-state-and-church/

What the Bible says is not the same as what the preacher says still too often

do see also http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26522

 
do see also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/is-it-true-or-false/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/ 

As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches and why was, is that?  (Prov 31:8 KJV)  “Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9    Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” To be able to judge righteously, though, the Church itself and the Preacher now must be also righteous.  
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Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections

  

Now about the Evangelicals, Plymouth Brethren Baptists so called rather still ignorant so called Christians I find it so absurd that these people still tend to not know what the Bible teaches, they believe their churches false teachings on healing, Zionism, Dispensationalism,  tithing etc. 

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John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism in the English vernacular. He produced a false translation of the Bible based on the Hebrew and Greek texts called The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages by J. N. Darby.
Dispensationalist – just another Holy Spirit hater who bashes, bullies others who do not agree with them too
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Dispensationalism is a system of theology that was first popularized by John Nelson Darby, 19th century British evangelist and forerunner of modern Christian fundamentalism.   The false  Scofield Reference Bible, written by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, popularized dispensationalism in the United States.  The world’s Jews must return to Israel for a dispensational interpretation of prophecy to be fulfilled. To facilitate that process, dispensationalists have been leading groups of pilgrims to Israel since Falwell’s first visit in order to win financial and political support for settlement activity.
 
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“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the  doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus  Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the  simple.” -Romans 16:17-18 KJV  
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“Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it  necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all  delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out  for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the  only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” -Jude 1:3-4
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In the 1830’s  a false supposedly Christian movement  erupted  that was led by John Nelson Darby, called generally  the “Plymouth Brethren”. One of the main leaders of the Plymouth Brethren in Plymouth, England was a lawyer named John Nelson Darby. Darby became the “Father of Dispensationalism”, and used the teachings on Daniel 9 by the Jesuits Ribera and Bellarmine as the foundation of his rapture teaching. Among other beliefs, the group emphasizes sola scriptura, the belief that the Bible is the supreme authority for church doctrine and practice over tradition. They do not speak about the holy spirit rather too often.. I wonder why?  “Brethren assemblies” are commonly perceived as being divided into at least two branches, the “Open Brethren” and the “Exclusive Brethren”. Both  tend to be false. The   Brethren have suffered many subsequent splits. Some groups have abandoned earlier principles, such as rejection of a salaried ministry and insistence on women’s silence.. those assemblies that have abandoned these principles, by allowing paid ministry and allowing women to teach openly from the pulpit, are often referred to as “Bible” churches  a false title as they clearly  do not  follow the whole new Testament even,  and with its emphasis on  the  centrality of the Lord’s Supper they  still rarely do  engage in joint efforts with other Christians in their communities or allow them to participate in the Lord’s supper..
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 In America, the designation of the building in which Open Brethren assemblies meet most often include the word “Chapel” in their formal name, combined with a biblical place name or principle or otherwise a local geographic feature—for instance, Ebenezer Gospel Chapel, Park Road Bible Chapel, Riverview Believers Chapel. But unlike many other Christian groups, the names of Christian saints, (e.g. Paul, Luke) are rarely or never used. The Closed groups, however, avoid “taking a name” to their group. A Closed group building is referred to as a “Meeting Room” or “Gospel Hall”, and the word “Chapel” is avoided. When you encounter them they tend to falsely hides, not disclose who they are but pretend to be solely Christians.. They do give false adherence to their own “Creeds” and “Confessions of Faith” and admittance to their memberships is not accepted freely. A distinctive practice of the Brethren is a separate weekly Communion meeting, referred to as the “Breaking of Bread” or “The Lord’s Supper”. Non Brethren are  Nonbelievers who also are not to partake of the “Breaking of Bread”. Most assemblies do not encourage visitors, strangers to take Communion, so often it is the custom of those who are travelling to take with them a “letter of introduction” so they might be permitted to take Communion away from their home assemblies. These letters are typically read aloud to those present at the “Remembrance Meeting”.
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Plymouth Brethren embrace the most extensive form of that idea in that there is no ordained or unordained person or group employed to function as minister(s) or pastor(s) But they do have local ruling elders and teachers.. Plymouth Brethren groups generally ppractise  that not all of the believers  are suited to give public ministry such as teaching and preaching  especially non Brethrenites. Traditionally, the assemblies   deny speaking and teaching roles to women, except when working with children or with other women. Some women may also be full-time workers, but their efforts are often limited to these mentioned areas or to supporting roles. Women are generally not allowed to participate in individual speech during the “Breaking of Bread” meeting (i.e., gathering). – some more  liberal  chapels allow women to take part on an equal footing to men, others do not. In recent years some American assemblies have loosened the rules on women participating, such as women singing special music during the “family Bible hours” at their assemblies, though others have reacted by placing more emphasis on this traditional teaching. Ironic that these denied women tend to rile over their husbands at home instead to compensate.
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Most assemblies do not have instrumental accompaniment to hymns and songs sung during the “Remembrance Meeting” but instead have men who “start the hymns” (choosing a tune, tempo, pitch and key and singing the first few words, with the rest joining in shortly thereafter  In some rare groups, musical accompaniment may be used at the other meetings (i.e., gatherings). This is not a normal Christian church for sure. Prayers for personal healing are rarely practiced now as well even though this is a biblical requirement.. Healing is considered a demonic ebvent as God doe snto heal according to them anymore, nor do the gift of speaking in toungues extsts anymore.
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James 5:15 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins..
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1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
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Of course they can always falsely justify their non Christian doctrines and behaviors.. Many leaders of the contemporary evangelical movement came from Brethren backgrounds is a false statement. for the fact is that these Brethren are not real Christians..
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Now Darby taught many false things such as Dispensationalist, Zionism, Rapture, eternal security, the cessation of the miracles and the Holy Spirit gifts  too. . By 1909,  Darbyism had infiltrated America. That year, Cyrus Scofield published his famous Scofield Bible. In the margin notes, Scofield readily accepted the dispensationalist teachings of J.N. Darby, and some of the other  lies . As can be expected, by the middle of the 1900’s, too many students graduating from America’s seminaries were well indoctrinated in both the Jesuit lies of Arminius, and the Dispensationalist hogwash of J.N. Darby. By the end of that century, too many  churches in America taught some level of Arminianism and the predominant eschatological view was of a future rapture followed by a seven-year tribulation. Both concepts were openly and clearly also Jesuit concepts pushed by the Society of Jesus in order to counter the Doctrines of Grace.
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The false Brethren wresting of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational reaching contrary to the actual written word of God is still also unacceptable. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/so-why-do-some-pople-falsely-push-the-rapture/
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The Brethren  oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/
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“But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8.
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“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3):  For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV)  Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV)  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
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 Dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world,  now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and   as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they  have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, lie against the Pentecostals Christians too even in envy it seems cause they  the Pentecostals undeniably are it seems one of the fastest growing group today  in Christianity. These abusive, immoral rather  Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only,  are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too..  The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted  and not accepted by main stream Christianity too.
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DISPENSATIONALSIM , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY  BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS  NOW TOO, IS A LIAR’S, A  COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S  FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL  OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING FROM THE JEWS AS WELL BY NOT ASKING THEM TO REPENT, OR TO SEE THEIR NEED OF ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR MESSIAH, SAVIOR. TRULY A DIABOLICAL THEOLOGY.
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So it is not surprising it also was created by a too  typical  bad lawyer  too now. 
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 (Deu 11:14 KJV)  That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil.
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(Job 29:23 KJV)  And they waited for me as for the rain; and they opened their mouth wide as for the latter rain.

(Prov 16:15 KJV)  In the light of the king’s countenance is life; and his favour is as a cloud of the latter rain.

(Jer 3:3 KJV)  Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore’s forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.

(Joel 2:23 KJV)  Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

(Zec 10:1 KJV)  Ask ye of the LORD rain in the time of the latter rain; so the LORD shall make bright clouds, and give them showers of rain, to every one grass in the field.

(James 5:7 KJV)  Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
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Imagine trying to build a whole theological central base  on a few isolated Bile texts too now and  now today, even Jacob and the Brethren too, so he Jacob – Israel who tried to get God’s blessing by deceit with the help of others is still at it today, refusing to admit that the blessings of God now, today, forever are only in, and  through Jesus Christ the Messiah, he is trying to steal his own salvation and the promsied land now.
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(Gen 27:19 KJV)  And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me.
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 The dispensationalist’s claims  implicitly does involve  them, God in duplicity and Christ in deception and thus no way can they be acceptable works of any REAL, professing Christians
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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even. https://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/
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It is ludicrous,. really absurd that some people will still falsely claim they are Experts  on the Holy Spirit, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, praying, speaking in toungues too, a personal  experience they still  have never even had..
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The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.”  where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial  one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation  is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.”  Which most often is the case. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

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It seems strange to me that the Lord would not reveal, by the Holy Spirit, a teaching which the end-time prophets of today preach as a foundational dogma and a forgone conclusion. Not until 1831 was this “new truth” revealed and not until the 20th century was it popularized. How is it that the Apostles and the Early Fathers overlooked such an important eschatological event? Why is it not clearly spelled out in the Scriptures? The obvious answer is this: THE DOCTRINE KNOWN AS THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH DOES NOT EXIST! Like all other heresies it was and is the invention of men, not the teaching of the Church. Rather than listen to the doctrines of men, let us pay extremely close attention to our Lord’s own words in the Gospels.  When Jesus taught His Apostles about His glorious 2nd coming, these are the words He used: “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:27)”. In the book of Acts, St. Luke tells us that when Jesus ascended into heaven, and the Apostles were gazing upward as the Lord rose among the clouds, two men in white apparel (presumed to be angels) said these words: “Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven (Acts 1:11)”. We are told here in Holy Scripture that exactly in the same way Jesus ascended into heaven He will return to earth. In other words, He will return in the clouds in the sky. That description doesn’t sound like a “secret catching away” but rather a dynamic 2nd coming!  To be sure, there will be a catching away of the saints on earth but this happens at the last trumpet sound (Revelation 11:15). Writing to the Christians in Thessalonica, St. Paul tells us what the 2nd coming (Greek- parousia) is like. “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore, comfort one another with these words (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)”. The same words are used here to describe the catching up of Christians as is used to describe the 2nd coming of the Lord. Both occur in the clouds, in the air, and everyone on earth sees it happen. In other words, the so-called Rapture and the 2nd coming of Christ will happen at the same time. . Perhaps the most vivid picture of our Lord’s 2nd coming to earth is found in the words of St. John the Apostle. In the book of Revelation he writes: “Behold, He cometh with clouds and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, amen (Revelation 1:7)”. Far from believing that the Lord will return “secretly” to rapture the Church 7 years before His 2nd coming, St. John says that every human being on earth will see the Lord descend from the clouds. Once again, here are the words of the Nicene Creed, the symbol and statement of faith for all Christians: “He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and His kindgom shall have no end.” The 2nd coming of our Lord Jesus Christ shall be in glory, not in secret. Then the Prince of Peace shall establish true peace, joy, and righteousness on the earth; “For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea (Habakkuk 2:14)”.

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Most dispensationalists still do   take isolated verse and twist them to suit what they want others to believe still especially the false Dispensationalists http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/most-people-do-take-isolated-verse-and-twist-them/

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Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies of  Israel and the Church. It also unacceptably tries falsely to explain away  the relevance of the gifts of the holy spirit today.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the   HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.  Evangelical Dispensationalists do also still tend to be trying to earn a great spot in heaven by their own good works, saving others, following the teaching of men, an evil spirit, and not the Holy Spirit rather.. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

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Some persons  recognize and treasure all born again believers who operate within a dispensational framework as brothers and sisters in Christ. whereas IN FACT IN ANY CHURCH IT SEEMS ONLY 30 PERCENT OF THE PERSONS AT THE MOST ARE REAL, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, ESPECIALLY IN THE BRETHREN CHURCHES TOO
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However, we must remember that Paul loved his fellow apostle Peter and esteemed him the senior and more honored of the two of them. Nevertheless, when it came to a point of theology that had profound implications for the purity and health of the Church, Paul was constrained by his love for Christ and the Truth publicly to withstand Peter to his face. (Galatians 2:11)
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Therefore,  out of love  Like the Bereans nearly two thousand years ago, let us “search the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things are so.”
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Speaking of men,,
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James Barr states: But whatever may be said about its creativity, when it is considered as a statement of Christian truth…it can scarcely be doubted that dispensational doctrine is heretical and should be counted as such, if the term ‘heresy’ is to have any meaning. If dispensationalism is not heresy, then nothing is heresy (Ibid., p.588).
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Of the Scofield Reference Bible, John Wick Bowman says, “This book represents the most dangerous heresy currently to be found within Christian circles” (Ibid., p.588). 
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John H. Gerstner, in his 1991 book, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism, states emphatically and without mincing words:
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What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation….If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say that it has departed from Christianity. No matter how many other important truths it proclaims, it cannot be called Christian if it empties Christianity of its essential message. We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that. It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation (p.150).
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Ernest Reisinger states in his article, “A History of Dispensationalism in America”:  All honest Dispensationalists would agree that the Dispensational system of theology has a different view of the grace of God, the law of God, the church of God, the interpretation of the Word of God and the salvation of God. That is, its teachings are different from tested, respected historic creeds and confessions …. Dispensationalism has a different view of living the Christian life of sanctification and, more specifically, how justification and sanctification are inseparably joined together in the application of God’s salvation (p.3)
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See also “The John Darby Versionn: Dispensationally Manipulated.” http://libertytothecaptives.net/darby_version_corrupt_methodically.html

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Of special interest to some might be Cyrus Scofield’s blatant occult marking on his 1917 Reference Bible. Scofield associated the cross of Jesus Christ with at-one-ment. http://libertytothecaptives.net/scofield_at-one-ment.html

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Like John Darby, Scofield the adulterer, convicted fellon, had removed damned, damnation and hell from the Bible: http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_removed_damned.html

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But what had really surprised me most of all besides how they the Plymouth Brethren do falsely  abuse others is as to how many Brethren preachers actually lie, practice deceit,  and it is so easy to find it too, when you look for it, and do start to verify everything they say, write  too to determine now whether what was said it is so, true or false , even as per the Bible.
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When a Brethren preacher is even trying to justify the Brethren belief and puts something ridiculous like this in writing.. “Most Conservative scholars agree with him”.. the term “Most conservative scholars” means nothing, that is so vague of a useless, false  generalization now still too, and in reality most of them do not agree even with each other to start off, dispensationalist ones included.. for not only do they they rather rarely agree or  have the same views, beliefs on dispensationalist, the whole Bible too but in fact since the early days the Brethren undeniably have often had church fights, splits not just over dispensational points, but over now many other issues too. The only thing we can agree in unity, harmony  is that they often do serioulsy disgree with each other, others too.
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Or when the Brethren preacher continues  the Brethren deceits,  distortions by saying.. the Brethren believe only in 5 in simple doctrines, and firstly what did he fall out of a tree and damage his brains? By their own admissions often it seems you need many many commentaries, dictionaries, books, knowledge of the Greek, theological degrees, and loads and loads of explanations.. to try to basically, simply grasp what Dispensationalist means and next also what their version of Prophecy   means .. and loads of work even now to try to grasp if Brethrenism  itself is even at all Biblical now too. Thier beliefs now are Plain and Simple? never, not by a long shot.
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There are several basic, ground rules in proper Bible interpretation that must be followed by all persons now  before anyone even attempts to fully study the Holy Scripture. The first rule is pray and ask the Holy spirit to guide you, to teach you.. not rather self, mere men or women.. we should seek first and not last the Holy Spirit for illumination. The Holy Spirit wants to share the treasures of God’s Word with those who rightfully do esteem Him. The most important principle to remember in studying God’s Word is that it can only be understood with the help of the Holy Spirit.  Those who approach the Bible without the Holy Spirit to teach them, may gain some insight into truths, their lives, but also  will receive no definite, permanent, important life-changing revelation.  Bible Commentaries should be used only very sparingly if at  all. Even the most anointed man or woman, preacher  of God clearly still can be wrong, biased, have a hidden agenda, limited, (or just shallow) in their understanding or interpretation of certain Bible topics, subjects. Do not believe any man or women, rather solely Take God’s word for it.
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While the Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too  clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every  passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking.
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Dispensationalism  had it’s origination among the Plymouth Brethren in the early 1830’s. The  father of dispensationalism, John Nelson Darby, educated as a lawyer and ordained Anglican priest, was one of the  chief founders of the Plymouth Brethren movement, which arose in reaction against the perceived empty formalism  of the Church of England. Next  Dispensationalists have long been rightfully accused of teaching multiple methods of salvation. Dispensationalists FALSELY  view  Israel and the church as having distinct eternal destinies. Israel will receive an eternal earthly Kingdom, and the  church an eternal heavenly Kingdom. In contrast, Christian theology has always maintained the essential continuity of Israel and the church. The elect  of all the ages are seen as one people, one sole   Church now, with one Savior, one destiny, Heaven..  
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The Plymouth Brethren Dispensationalists movement itself has constituted a radical even a false change from the historic teachings of Christianity. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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So they are dead now even on two accounts.. Denying the present role, works of the Holy Spirit, and their lack of good works by faith, their unloving acts towards the others.
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Dispensationalists, Brethren do now falsely  deny the “second blessing” , a personal religious Holy Spirit experience after which the believer is set aside for, equipped by God for life.
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The Brethren with all of their supposedly  Biblical Studies Foundation, Bible studies, or actually Bible passages reinterpretations do say that the teachings of the Charismatic and Pentecostal Movement are false and that “The major doctrine the Pentecostals and Charismatics is that they  do not understand is the supposed fact that Christians are not in the Old Testament times, but live in now a different dispensation ” as defined by the Brethren alone.. You falsely have to go by, play by, live now by  the new Brethren, man made   rules, interpretations, standards and not God’s.
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The Brethren boasted, from their very beginning in the nineteenth century, that their teachings represented a wide departure from the doctrines of their predecessors and contemporaries. So it was not surprisingly the Brethren movement was  both refuted and rejected  rightfully now by the majority of professing real Christians even todate where the realted dispensationalism rightfully  is something to be avoided like the plague.       
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In reality, and undeniably  those persons who do not go along with them, do not support them they the Brethren, even  due to their own insecurities, do declare war against them, ostracize them, slander them, lie about them, divorce them too. All unacceptable and very ungodly, un Christ like , carnal behavior on their parts still too.
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Their false doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the foundation of dispensationalism, can be clearly seen for what it is, false, by anyone who has a knowledgeable grasp of the New Testament. It is those persons ignorant of the scriptures, those persons  not in their Bibles who are the ones so easily deceived by them still too.   
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Dispensationalists  it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity believe in a negative view of the Gospel of Jesus Christ where  “this present world system . . . is now controlled by Satan” (not by God) and will end in failure and apostasy.  As opposed to the beliefs of the many Pentecostals Christians who believe in a positive  that the climax of earth will be characterized by Christians doing greater and greater things as result of being empowered by the Holy Spirit. To the Pentecostal “saints,”  the appearance of “Pentecostal” phenomena (for example, visions, dreams, prophecy, glossolalia, and other charismatic gifts)  confirmed that what the Old Testament prophet Joel had foretold about the “latter rain” outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the end times ( Joel 2: 28-29) was being fulfilled simultaneously in other parts of the world.  As one songwriter put it, “The latter rain has come, / Upon the parched ground . . . The whole wide world around.”
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“and a wonderful discovery that a long controverted point is now settled; the unpardonable sin is declared to be speaking against the Darbyites.” C. H. Spurgeon whom himself was lied about, slandered, bashed by the Brethren.
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Rev George Muller, famous founder of the Bristol orphanage, was one of the best-known early Plymouth Brethren figures . Mr. Muller also had a public falling-out with Darby.  Those who sympathized with Darby became the “Closed Brethren” and those who sided with Muller were known as “Open Brethren.” The two strains of Brethrenism endure even today. A  It was Rev George Mueller who had introduced D L Moody to the Plymouth Brethren, and it seems when George Muller of Bristol came up against the Dispensationalist doctrines of the Brethren movement, he severed all connection with it.
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The dispensationalists falsely divided the whole Scriptures in terms of categories of people: Jew, Gentile, and Christian. Where Chafer taught that the only Scriptures addressed specifically to Christians  were the gospel of John, Acts, and the Epistles! Pettengill taught that the Great Commission was for the Jews only. Scofield taught  that the Lord’s prayer was a Jewish prayer and ought not be recited  by Christians. Along with much of the New Testament, the Old  Testament was described as “not for today.”  Christian.” Christians were even falsely now mocked by them as legalists for believing  in the Ten Commandments!  This  false segmentation of the Bible makes dispensationalism a cult.

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The Open Brethren, Plymouth brethren  simply and with limitations  affirms the Bible as the inerrant Word of God; the Trinity; the depravity of man, and the necessity of salvation by grace through faith; the church is  composed of all true believers ( Brethren only)  in Jesus Christ; two ordinances, baptism by immersion and the Lord’s Supper; the security of the believer (once a person is truly a child of God, that status is secure for all time); and pretribulation premillennialism (that is, Christ will return before the tribulation and before the millennium.)  Brethren assemblies (independent congregations) are usually led by locally appointed elders recognized by the local congregation. Assemblies tend also celebrate a weekly communion service, at which only approved Members, appointed men only  are encouraged to speak or pray. Women are clearly not allowed to participate. Fellowship with like-minded Christians  such  as InterVarsity Fellowship  are rare   acceptance  as a  part of  evangelicalism , and very characteristic of Brethren they forbid, and  do not fellowship with other Christians such as Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals, Charismatic’s, etc., for whom they seem to have no use for. Tend to declare war on them too. 

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Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections seem to like to bash the Catholics. Charismatic, Pentecostal Christians  too now. The seem to be a english speaking white man’s club too. 

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I have even been blogging on the net for decades  and surprisingly It has now been too often the bad brethren, the bad professing Christians, also it has been bad pastors who have been wrongfully the most abusive towards me and my posts.. jealousy seems to still control them sadly too. Even the false apostle Judas was part of the 12 apostles
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Dispensational theology is an intricate web of deceit with various teachings.

“A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth”  (Proverbs 14:6)

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Do see also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/?s=dispensationalists

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/sole-gospel/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

 http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

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