Divorce, Abortions, Polygamy, Adultery are immoral as being Gay.

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The Lord God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone.  I will make a helper suitable for him’…the Lord God made a woman…and brought her to the man…For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.  The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame” (Genesis 2:18,22,24-25,  ).

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In the Old Testament book of Leviticus, the Bible says:  “Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin” (Leviticus 18:22 ).  Then one chapter later, it adds:  “If a man has sex with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is abhorrent” (Leviticus 20:13 ).
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The New Testament passages clearly upholds the sexual ethics of the Old Testament. Jesus  did condemn all forms of sexual immorality: What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you. (  Mark 7:20-23)  Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. ( 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)  They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator– who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. ( Romans 1:25-27)
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Any sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex that is prohibited by Bible teachings.  I do not expect lustful, sinful, gay persons to respect what the Bible says nevertheless is is God word, the whole Bible. I expect them to twist the Bible to support their immorality knowing that people “love darkness rather than light” (John 3:19). Some persons even some professing Christians are trying to argue these days from the Bible that homosexuality is an acceptable form of human relationship. They teach that same-sex “marriage” is just as holy and commendable as heterosexual marriage. This concerns many more than secular arguments because such an approach attempts to hijack the Bible and change the truth (which, by any sane definition, never changes) . The bad news for those who engage in homosexuality does not go away simply by the spurious claim that somehow the Church has “misunderstood” the bible texts for centuries. People who use the Bible to argue that accepting homosexuality is how we are to ‘love our neighbor’ wrongly omit the first half of what Jesus said in that context. Jesus actually said, “The great and first commandment is ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind'” (Matthew 22:34-40). In other words, love for one’s neighbor is bounded by one’s primary allegiance to God. How can one claim to love God, yet despise what His Word says about homosexuality and disregard His design for marriage? At the core of the topic of human sexuality, as with all topics, is either a sound understanding of God or a flawed understanding of God, the Bible.  The Bible actually is quite clear and consistent, despite those who misinterpret it (2 Peter 3:16).

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One basic guideline for good Bible interpretation is that whenever an Old Testament moral principle is re-stated in the New Testament, it makes the moral principle binding today. Gays falsely  jump to conclude that anyone who refuses to legitimize homosexuality and/or endorse same-sex marriage is automatically a “hater.” But that’s not the case. The Christian hope for homosexuals is not heterosexuality, but holiness. We know what awaits (Revelation 21:8) all those who will not turn from their sin and turn to Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and similar verses are sometimes cited as evidence that homosexuals will not be saved.

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LGBT  Make Up Less Than 2% of the North American Population and  their grand story doesn’t end with prideful sinners pulling their Creator down from His all-powerful throne (Psalm 2). To advocate for extending rights to someone based in particular and occasionally mutable desires, relationships, and behaviors — as important as they might be to the individual — is actually a violation of the principle of universal human rights.

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 True Christians graciously express what Christians have believed about marriage and sexuality for 2000 years. God created humans to engage in sex only within the arrangement of marriage between a male and a female. (Genesis 1:27, 28; Leviticus 18:22; Proverbs 5:18, 19) The Bible condemns sexual activity that is not between a husband and wife, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual conduct. (1 Corinthians 6:18) The Bible straight-up says that homosexual behavior is an abomination. The New Testament plainly lists homosexuality right alongside lying (1 Timothy 1:10), robbing, being greedy, swindling (1 Corinthians 6:9), gossiping and committing murder (Romans 1:25). Any society that condones destructive, sinful behavior (as Scripture defines sin) is a society that will weaken and decline. When you engage in sexual activity outside of male-female marriage, it not only brings God’s judgment upon you but also brings about emotional harm (and sometimes physical harm or disease), regardless of whether it’s consensual, and regardless of whether the harm or the offense toward God is ever realized or acknowledged.
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It is not sinful to be tempted. It’s sinful to yield. This truth about temptation applies to everyone, regardless of the sin.
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Homosexual “marriage” is unBiblical, unnatural and contrary to the conscience of every human being, All homosexual behavior comes out of “an emphasis on freedom with complete disregard for moral responsibility. The same sex marriage tends  to be a sign of the impending apocalypse.
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The Bible clearly affirms the dignity and worth of all people, regardless of skin color. But the Bible condemns homosexuality because it is rebellion against the created order of male-female marriage (Romans 1:18-32)
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It is clearly spelled out in Scripture. Titus and 1 Timothy tell us what are to be…

“…above reproach, the husband of one wife… He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.” Titus 1:5-9 

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“…above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach” (1 Timothy 3:1-5).

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Jesus frees sinners who turn to Him in faith: His sinless life, His substitutionary death on the cross, and His rising from the dead emancipates anyone who no longer wants to be enslaved by sin. In Christ, there is no more fear of judgment or punishment for the sins we’ve committed (John 3:16, 3:36).

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Jesus was unequivocal in saying that to understand marriage and the sexual union, we must go back to the beginning and see how God created humanity and to what end. (See Matthew 19 and Mark 10.) Sexual intimacy is not a right. Every Christian has limitations placed on his sexuality. For married Christians, it is exclusive to one’s spouse. For single, engaged, and divorced Christians, it is abstinence, no exceptions.

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Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate. (Matthew 19:6) Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery. (Mark 10:11-12) If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. (1 Corinthians 7:12-13) The Bible tells husbands to love their wives (Ephesians 5:25) and wives to love their husbands (Titus 2:4). But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. (Matthew 5:44-45)

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see http://pbulow.tripod.com/adultery.html

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Living outside of what you can afford. A wise old woman  once advised: “The best thing you can do as a wife is to live within your husband’s means.”

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It’s okay to have a bad day once in a while — that’s totally understandable; but don’t make it a way of life.

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if you put your self, your children, mom, best friends, talents, or career in front of your husband, you send a clear message to him that he is unimportant.

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Don’t waste your time giving him subtle hints that he won’t understand: Speak plainly to him. Be honest about your feelings, and don’t bottle things up until you burst. We think we can sweep our grudges and resentments under the rug–at least for a little while–but then we get busy, or we decide to just leave this stuff for another day, and then somewhere along the way, we forget that they’re still there waiting for us.  Waiting to trip up our or destroy your marriages. Being resentful. does it make you feel better?  Really? “Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies.”

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Decide you’re going to stay married, no matter what. Literally When a woman first seriously considers divorce she usually isn’t thinking about the theological implications of her desires – all she knows is that she is desperate wants to get more from her husband. She doesn’t arrive at this state of desperation by a process of calm deduction. Most husbands have few memories of “hurting” their wives and do not give it any thought. The truth is that a hardened woman only got that way because she was elf centred, selfish. Most women leave their husbands, because they entered marriage with false expectations Such a wife will be consumed by bitterness. She should realize the negative impact of her bad decisions will have, on her children or others . Her heart is too far hardened, and will not now respond to words of Truth. She falsely blames him for her bitterness.

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Revelation 218 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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 That such a Hell exists, there can be no doubt! The term “hell” occurs 54 times in the Bible,
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“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive” (Eph. 4:11–14).

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Now, what woman would next want to get naked and sleep with an insensitive, and despotic, careles, bad man? She no longer trusts him. She now feels disconnected from him. However, her avoiding sex altogether is not a solution to her problems either.  It’ll just compound them.   Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.   1 Corinthians 7:5

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A wife who hardens her heart against her husband is hardened not just against him, but also against God. Self-pity will pollute her prayers, and create an “odor” of self-centeredness. Scripture warns against a bitter or hardened hear, it t is a dangerous condition for her soul (Eph 4:18; Heb 3:13, 15; Deut 31:27; 1 Sam 15:23; Acts 7:51; 28:27).

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Immoral Judges, lawyers, Politicians, Pastors, Persons wrongfully encourage divorce often. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/immoral-judges-lawyers-politicians-persons/

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Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who simply do not want to have a baby. Less than 5 percent of abortions are for the reasons of rape, incest, or the mother’s health at risk. The life of a human being in the womb is worth every effort to allow the child to be born. Abortion   is a reversal of justice. It is a destruction of the helpless rather than a rescue of them.  Scripture repeatedly condemns the killing of the innocent. Jesus, the Bible opposes abortions, it is murder  rape and Jesus, the Bible opposes  rape or incest.  Abortion is death. Christ came to conquer death, and therefore abortion. “I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full” (John 10:10). Abortion is murder and is prohibited by the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:13).  Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as for someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb to be as human as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-279:6).
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The Book of Revelation affirms that (unrepentant) murderers cannot enter the kingdom of heaven (Revelation 22:15).
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The killing of children is especially condemned by God through the prophets. In the land God gave his people to occupy, foreign nations had the custom of sacrificing some of their children in fire. God told His people that they were not to share in this sin. They did, however, as Psalm 106 relates: “They mingled with the nations and learned their works…They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons, and they shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, desecrating the land with bloodshed” (Psalm 106:35, 37-38).

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This sin of child-sacrifice, in fact, is mentioned as one of the major reasons that the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed by the Assyrians and the people taken into exile. “They mutilated their sons and daughters by fire…till the Lord, in his great anger against Israel, put them away out of his sight” (2 Kings 17:17-18).

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God says through Isaiah, “Trample my courts no more! Bring no more worthless offerings…Your festivals I detest…When you spread out your hands, I close my eyes to you; though you pray the more, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood! Wash yourselves clean…learn to do good. Make justice your aim: redress the wronged, hear the orphan’s plea, defend the widow” (Isaiah 1:13-17).

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St. John says, “This is the message you have heard from the beginning: we should love one another, unlike Cain who belonged to the evil one and slaughtered his brother” (1 John 3:11-12). Love is directly contrasted with slaughter. To take the life of another is to break the command of love. To fail to help those in need and danger is also to fail to love.  Christ teaches this clearly in the parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37), in the story of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31), and in many other places.

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The Bible teaches that children are a blessing. God commanded our first parents to “Be fertile and multiply” (Genesis 1:28). Why? God Himself is fertile. Love always overflows into life. When the first mother brought forth the first child, she exclaimed, “I have brought forth a man with the help of the Lord” (Genesis 4:1). The help of the Lord is essential, for He has dominion over human life and is its origin. Parents cooperate with God in bringing forth life. Because this whole process is under God’s dominion, it is sinful to interrupt it. The prophet Amos condemns the Ammonites “because they ripped open expectant mothers in Gilead” (Amos 1:13). “Truly children are a gift from the Lord; the fruit of the womb is a reward” (Psalm 127:3).

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Incest is defined as: “The crime of sexual intercourse or cohabitation between a man and woman who are related to each other within the degrees wherein marriage is prohibited by law” , Incest has been held to be repulsive, dangerous, and illegal among many civilizations.  The most comprehensive segment of the Old Testament dealing with this offense is in Leviticus 18:6-18.Sexual cohabitation was not permitted between a man and his mother, his sister, a granddaughter, an aunt, etc.The most serious punishment was execution (Leviticus 20:11-17), and in the New Testament era, disfellowship from the local church was enjoined for the offence (1 Corinthians 5:1-5).
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When the Bible mentions the crime of rape, it is depicted as a gross violation of God’s design for the treatment of the human body (Genesis 34). (Deuteronomy 22:13–29) spoke directly against forcing a woman into a sexual encounter against her will, or what we know today as rape. Jesus and the apostles spoke against sexual immorality, even offering it as justifiable grounds for divorce (Matthew 5:32).
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 Polygamy is wrong because it necessarily involves adultery. That is why it is not specifically banned anywhere in the New testament Bible – because it is covered by the laws that deal with adultery. If you have sex with someone other than your wife then it is adultery,   Adultery is stealing the sex that does not belong to you, it belongs to another man or women.   https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/polygamy/ 
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For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie

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We are lied to all the time in real life.. about many things too.

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No Sin is not cheap, there is a big price next  to pay for it.. 

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The apostle Paul declared in Galatians 6:7, “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.” There has always been consequence to sin from the moment Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the garden (Genesis 2,3).

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No Man should ever  think that he can escape the eye of God even if some time has passed..

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God has the sin of adultery listed as one of His special 10 commandments – “Thou shall not commit adultery.”
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And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord Your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me … You shall not commit adultery …” (Exodus 20:1-14)

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All sex intercourse outside of marriage, which is defined as an act solely  between a man and a women, including polygamy is immoral because it is stealing that which does not belong to you.. and expect the devil and his followers to falsely disagree here too. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/

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The mouth of an immoral woman is a deep pit; he who is abhorred of the Lord will fall there.” (Proverbs 22:14)  
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“My son, give me your heart, and let your eyes observe My ways. For a harlot is a deep pit, and a seductress is a narrow well. She also lies in wait as for a victim, and increases the unfaithful among men.” (Proverbs 23:26)  
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“Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways, do not stray into her paths; for she has cast down many wounded, and all who were slain by her were strong men. Her house is the way to hell, descending to the chambers of death.” (Proverbs 7:25)  
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“For the commandment is a lamp, and the law is light; reproofs of instruction are the way of life, to keep you from the evil woman, from the flattering tongue of a seductress, do not lust after her beauty in your heart, nor let her allure you with her eyelids. For by means of a harlot a man is reduced to a crust of bread; and an adulteress will prey upon his precious life. Can a man take fire to his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? Can one walk on hot coals, and his feet not be seared? So is he who goes in to his neighbor’s wife; whoever touches her shall not be innocent … Whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding; he who does so destroys his own soul.” (Proverbs 6:23, 32)
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“Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but the fornicators and adulterers God will judge.” (Hebrews 13:4)  
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“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9
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“Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19)
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“Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.” (James 1:13)
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“Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul …” (1 Peter 2:11)  
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“Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body … Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.” (1 Corinthians 6:13)
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But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Luke 12:5
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Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Revelation 22: 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
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King David lusted after Bathsheba. He had many wives and concubines, but in the season when kings go off to war, he neglected his duties. Lounging around the palace, he was tempted by the sight of Bathsheba and fell. He impregnated her, and tried to conceal the adultery by bringing her husband back from the wars to sleep with her. Uriah would not lie with his wife because he would not live in pleasure while his comrades in battle were in the field, suffering and in danger.  David arranged for Uriah’s death in battle. Nathan the prophet confronted David, and David’s reaction was not to attack the prophet, but to repent. He repented sincerely and profoundly; his psalms of repentance are still often said today. But God still punished him. David’s infant son, conceived in adultery, died, despite David’s praying in sackcloth and ashes. Even after he forgives us, God still sends us temporal punishment to insure we are not so easily tempted to sin the next time.. .  even to show us that our sins have consequences, for ourselves and for others.
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 David had sinned, and he falsely even thought that he had  build an effective cover-up plan. He only overlooked one very large detail: you can’t hide your heart from God.
 
 7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! Thus says the LORD God of Israel: “I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more! 9 Why have you despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in His sight? You have killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword; you have taken his wife to be your wife, and have killed him with the sword of the people of Ammon. 10 Now therefore, the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised Me, and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife.’   2 Samuel 12:7-10 NKJV 
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These were the consequences of David’s sin:

The sword would not depart from David’s family. God would raise up adversity against David from within his family.

God would allow a neighbor (David’s son, Absalom) to have sex with David’s wives in public, since he had taken Uriah’s wife Bathsheba secretly (2 Samuel 12:11-12).

The child that Bathsheba bore by David would die (2 Samuel 12:14).

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How Did These General Predictions Work Out?

  1.-David’s son by Bathsheba dies. II Samuel 12:15-18A

 2.-Incest and rape within the family. II Samuel 13:1-19

  3.-Premeditated murder within the family. II Samuel 13:20-29

 4.-David’s son flees. II Samuel 13:30-39

  5.-Arsen within the kings household. II Samuel 14:28-33

  6.-Disloyalty and insurrection of David’s throne by his own son. II Samuel 15:1-13

 7.-David needs to flee his own home. II Samuel 15:14

 8.-David himself is cursed and attacked. II Samuel 16:5-13

 9.-Immorality in public by David’s son. II Samuel 16:20-22

 10.-Battle of King David’s forces against his son Absalom’s forces. II Samuel 18:1-8

Day 14- 11.-David’s son is killed. II Samuel 18:9-15

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The punishment outlined by Nathan (II Samuel 12:7-15) was immediate at least in the lifetime of David. The sad part of David’s sin was that he would forever be marked as the man who took Uriah’s wife. When the account of Abijam’s reign in Judah is given in the book of 1 Kings it says: “Because David did what was right in the sight of the LORD, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the case of Uriah the Hittite” (I Kings 15:5). The consequence of sin remained.If these consequences seem overwhelming we need only ne reminded of the many  modern day  consequences.

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David’s incontinence had consequences far beyond his lifetime. His children inherited his character flaws. Amnon raped his half-sister, and for this was killed by his brother Absalom. Because of David’s weakness of character, he could not discipline Absalom, and Absalom rebelled. Solomon shared his father’s lack of sexual restraint and introduced idolatry into Israel by his foreign wives. Israel was punished for this idolatry by the division of the kingdom, by the disappearance of the Northern Kingdom, and by the Babylonian Exile. The compilers of the Pentateuch saw the same flaws at work at the beginning of human history, when Adam followed his wife into disobedience rather than obeying the law of the Most High

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   Because God is holy, He cannot accept what is evil into His presence and fellowship. Thus, ALL MEN are under one verdict.Sin brings curses! You cannot sin deliberately without reaping the consequences of your actions.he had to live with the curse he had brought upon his family and his nation also by his actions. We do not live in a vacuum – our sins always have an impact on the lives of others.  Exodus 32:33 Romans 5:12  Romans 6:23A

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A Psalm of David when Nathan the prophet came to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. ‘Be gracious to me, Elohim, according to Your loving-kindness, according to the multitude of Your tender mercies; blot out my transgressions.
‘Wash me completely from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
‘For I know my transgressions; and my sin is ever before me.
‘Against You, You only, I have sinned, and done evil in Your eyes’ that You might be justified in Your speaking and be clear when You judge.
‘Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.
‘Behold, You desire truth in the inward parts; and in the hidden parts You teach me wisdom.
‘Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
‘Cause me to hear joy and gladness; the bones You have crushed will rejoice.
‘Hide Your face from my sins, and blot out all my iniquities.
‘Create in me a clean heart, Elohim; and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
‘Do not cast me out from Your presence, and do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.
‘Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit.
‘I will teach transgressors Your ways; and sinners will turn back to You.
‘Deliver me from the guilt of shedding blood, Elohim, Elohay of my salvation; my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness.
‘Adonai, open my lips and my mouth shall declare Your praise.
‘For you do not desire sacrifice, or I would give it; You do not delight in burnt offering.
‘The sacrifices of Elohim are a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart, Elohim, You will not despise.
Do good in Your good pleasure to Zion; build the walls of Jerusalem.
‘Then You shall be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole offering; then they shall offer bulls on Your altar.’ ” Psalm 51:1-19
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Next King David endured with understanding the chastisement he received for the sins he committed with Bathsheba and against her husband Uriah the Hittite; and he repented and turned back to God with his whole heart. Next also  three of his sons continued transgressing the Word of God too , which sadly cost them their lives AND BROUGHT GREAT PAIN TO KING DAVID TOO.
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Psalms 19:
7    The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8    The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9    The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10    More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11    Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12    Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13    Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14    Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
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Christian Divorce VS Remarriage

(Matthew 19:1 KJV)    And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;
2  And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.
3  The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4  And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5  And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7  They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8  He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10  His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11  But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12  For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
 

TheDeeZone

     http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/                              

Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfuly cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back.. 

My undeniable Stats are not only based on the News media reports, but on personal undeniable pastoral witneses, pastoral testimonials.
 
You can bully me, bash me, play on words too, even call me a liar, but that will not deny the truth of what I have experienced  the last 3 decades on the net and in many in churches now as well.. the truth that any  bad Conservative is not any better than a bad Liberal.. and professing Conservatives, professing Christians,  evangelical pastors included  who  themselves now wrongfully are too often now just as ungodly human right violators as any of the ungodly, secular  persons too. They also should first Judge themselves before they judge the others, Christians too like to judge others but not themselves.
 
Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too.
 
On top of that I have openly admitted as told me decades ago by my Christian Missionary Alliance pastors himself firstly 70 percent of the pastors today in north America are no good, ungodly still, and my own past Alliance pastor he himself also was no saint, angel. But this does not mean I or  God have to accept any of their immoral, unacceptable abuses of even me now quietly  too.
 
If you do not like what I write please do not read it, but next lying, slandering me, abusing me   is never acceptable.. never. Now let’s continue the topic of any wrongful abuse of even me on the net or elswhere too.. in reply to  my posts by anyone too!
 
Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.
 
Like I have often said now elsewhere too

Most Christians still do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the  Bible too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a  day, so they talk about things they really do not know, have not  experienced, and the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too but they love to judge the others.

My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the  see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?

“There is no question that is is pretty hard to obey a book that you don’t  read. I agree that the lack of respect for, reading of and obedience to  scripture is epidemic. If the church would simply open God’s word in faith  and allow the Spirit to lead and teach us and then if we would respond in  submissive obedience out of a heart of simple faith, I believe the world  would be different. I also agree that it is impossible to know God without  seeking Him as He has revealed Himself to us in His word. So many  “Christians” speak of a God they clearly have not spent time with as He  Himself has revealed Himself.”

If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the  Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part  of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in  contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish  cheapskates.

Secondly all pastors, elders, ministers should be called specifically for  their Ministry directly by God. Most of them today have not been called for  the ministry, for they are hirelings.

True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one  hour and pray daily for others.

 what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal  experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act  like real anointed Christians. http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without  Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said  without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!!

I have dealt with that issue on my sites in detail.. we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.

http://groups.msn.com/AFOLLOWEROFCHRIST http://pbulow.tripod.com/ etc.

TheDeeZone (17:52:28) : http://thedeezone.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/revival-and-evangelism/

Non-conformer,

You have never supplied where you get your stats. I notice that you are Canadian but make claims about Americans. Are you referring to residents of the Americas or the USA. 

Your facts are unsubstantiated. 

I have visited several of your sites the information posted on them is redundant and illogical at best. 

You make great claims but fail to support your claims or provide a solution. 

The majority of ministers I know are called by God, do cheat, lie, steal or any of the other things you claim. Also the majority of Christians I know are really Christians not merely professing with there mouths.
This is the only time I am allowing you to repost items here. 

My guess is that you are more than just non-conforming. 

Slander involves spoken word not written  ( what a false play on words)

Any further reposting of items or inappropriate postings will be deleted. Unsure of what I considered acceptable read the page entitled About Comments, there is a link at the top. — DH”

Well here is my reply

  

My witness alone even  is an undeniable fact .Now DO stop falsely TELLING ME WHO AND WHAT I AM AND WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO.. TRY TO CONTROL SOLELY YOURSELF. You like to label me, bully me. libel me, slander me, but what do you call yourself.. hopefully not a Christian.. I have dealt with too many like you..
 
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/changing-yourself-first-positively/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/
https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/woe-to-the-shepherds/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/
 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/amazing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/equality/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/ 
    

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..

Now let me have my right of defence, my full right of free speech too, for in your own personal attack of me , your false judging of me too, someone you never met or know now firstly too, so now as you are aware  you DE HORRD  are not a court appointed judge, and we are not in your court room, so I do not have to play to your false, one sided , often changing demands, demonic  rules now too. I am not your slave, you are not by Boss, or a superior one,  I do not work for you, I do not take orders from you, I rightfully do not  have to do what you say, I can use my own right of free speech, I can write my own posts too still. I can do what I want on my own too. Now clearly your own  behavior is clearly unchristlike, unchristian,  and you need to have a more humble attiutide and Christ like  firstly too. This is my site and not yours now too even. I am a decent, honest, law abiding Christian and a mature senior too. No one has ever found me guity of libel in any court of law too. Do also see my posts on Libel now too.   

 Now  DH  you next had  entered my site, made a post, reply  and I had replied to you. And I had also posted my comments on on your site.. but now you next had wrongfully threatened to cut me off your site.. sad.. that you had degenerated that much..  but you had not replied to all of my questions to you and yet you louldy demand I do  reply to you .. so please  now also do reply to my questions too..

Firstly in kindness what real   facts do and  you have to deny any of this? Even about my past posts about how mostly bad most evangelical pastors now are? 

The 30 percent ungodly divorce rate amongst evangelicals and the 70 percent ungodly evangelical pastors who counsel  divorce too? 

Or the mostly only Pentecostal major TV ministries under investigations by a US senator? and what not the rest in fairness now too? 

 Do read my sites.. about the Bad Christian Missionary Alliance church, about the bad pastors at the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church too. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/  and http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/quartlerly-update-christian-posts/ and http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/pastors-elders-shepherds-christian-leaders-evangelists/

Please now also do cool down..  take a slow breathe of the spirit of God.. for contrary to what you wrote I  have many times in reality now offered on my many sites the solutions to the problems of much too many bad pastors  in North America, and yes too often it is the same major pastors who travel the evangelical circuits  too..  even  in the US or Canada, even in  the same denominations now too..  even Benny Hinn was a [astor in Canada before he went to the US and so was Todd Bentley etc.. and many others now too.. it really is a small world..

You think that US Christians, pastors  are more spiritual than those in Canada? and  why is that??  do they not both have access to the same Holy Spirit,  and even the same devil, and equally as well?

>> The majority of ministers I know are called by God, do cheat, lie, steal or any of the other things you claim.

>Also the majority of Christians I know are really Christians not merely professing with there mouths.

You had said that the  Pastors cheat , lie andsteal, absue, slander but not their followers?

Still I was surprised in decades this is the fist time someone so unwisely had called me a liar so openly now too.. I of course wanted to know why? and what really sore toe or idol that had I stepped on in reality?  

Please now also so called pastoral expert now do  also  now tell me SPECIALLY as to how many Pastor you had talked too that  can   SPECIALLY admit like I can the place, the time that GOD HAD CALLED THEM SPECIFICALLY INTO THE MINISTRY.. MOST pastor that I talked too, had asked this question too, they could nor and don’t even  tell me the assurance of their specifc Ministry callings, yet you do give such a ridicuclous assurance on their behalf yourself now ? Why? the reality bothers you and you do not want to face it?

 In your past pastoral experiences with Church pastors, now do also tell me  as to how  many pastors have you personaly, in detail

interviewed,  5 – 100? or more? and also  how many did you help to be rightfully fired,

and how many bad churches now did you personally close as well?

 I myself have been dealing with crooked pastors  now specially for 3 decades.. and  sadly I have seem much too seen many rightfully fired too,  even 2  original Church  founding pastors now too and I had helped to close one large bad evangelical church, the Calgary Christian centre,  at God’s own  specific request, directions to me too.

You have also now done how many church and pastoral visitations yourself the last 50 years too? 

Now if you actually read my sites.. I had said cleary already said many times that the bad pastors should repent, change their bad lifestyle, and now stop cheating, lying, stealing and be rather  filled, baptized with the holy spirit as the sole acceptable solution now too. Righfully so now too..

Supposedly you a Christian sister please do kindly note that I was never  interesting in having a shouting match with you or anyone..  even about the bad pastors and  now a major American news media had surveyed  American pastors, and some of my personal sources about bad pastors also were major American pastors..

so you clearly are grasping at STRAWS  to uphold the much too many fallen evangelical idols, pastors, and the abuses that do you and I do now hear about  are not even the tip  of the iceberg..

in one city alone I had personally had interview 45 evangelical pastors and none used the Bible in their Ministry..

so you can delete my posts but they anyway they are still posted on my sites… the undeniable truths as to what most pastors are like these days  even witnessed by me the last 4 decades too and by many others too.

I admit there are much too many crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and  in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. but there seems much too many critics on the net.. who clearly are violating God’s instruction to try to talk to a brother humbly, personally about their sins, sins.. before shouting it from the housetops.. wrongfully mostly this is not been ing even done as we can all see on the net daily too.

I am a pastor, I have been to latter day Pentecostal churches, I have encountered good and bad pastors in many denominations including Alliance, Baptist, Pentecostal ones.. but firstly I tend to rightfully speak to a pastor face to face, get to know firsthand what he is like before I am wise enough to publically condemn, judge him

But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, how can you really judge the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..

Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof..

Now here for an example as to how I see ignorance, hidden agendas, bad critics when I make posts on the net too..

but this is what should not be amazing for real Christians.. I had posted the same initial simple reposes, comments on many professing Christian sites that I had visited today..  and I next had got mostly similar positive comments but on  2 of the sites the persons had written me back and sais they could not understand what I had shared.. and that often happens..

Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said  without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! You cannot even understand God’s truths.  

(Rom 8:7 KJV)  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

(1 Cor 3:1 KJV)  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

(1 Cor 3:3 KJV)  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

(1 Cor 3:4 KJV)  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

 I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get  contrasting different responses to it.. I understand some persons are more mature than others, some are spiritual and some just carnal even though they profess to be all Christians.

Like I often get this typical response  “A hearty AMEN! Thanks for your  comment. Be blessed. ”

“Hi Brother. thanks for dropping by. I totally agree with your comment, it  wont eliminate dry times and trials but it is a vital part of our Christianity. … Frank”

hey I post the same posts on different professing Christian sites and I get  different responses too.. interesting..

and yet I also get the clearly negative ones..

A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the  Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his  teachings they  will not contradict the Bible..  and it is not rather based  solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too.

But of course if  any others because they  really still do not know God  and/or  because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will,  and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they  thus are not open to the Holy  Spirit himself to talk  with them thus they really should find out why too!  otherwise  they  will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive  themselves instead..

So how are they  dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally  rightfully their  Lord, Savior, or are they  just playing a religious game?

so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is reflective of the  true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still  seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..

Now I have often already covered topics like this many times too on my own sites in detail. http://pbulow.tripod.com/  including the too often false Pentecostal bashers…

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/the-posts-the-lakeland-revival-bashers-seem-to-despise/

and you can also see what many others say too about the much too many bad pastors these days too

http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/church_issues/fraud_embezzlement_illegal_benefits.htm

 http://picklinginhispresence.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/liars-and-perjurers-in-revival-john-davies-cnt-with-walter-kambulow-concerning-todd-bambambam-bentley-a-others/

http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/

But firstly and sadly my you are wrongfully too free with your slandering, offensive, insulting words, libel words  towards me and my posts..  for a start do you abuse everyone like this who  writes now something you do not want to hear or just me.. or just me? RSVP.

  but you STILL trying to tell me what I  can or cannot write even to you is really grossly absurd as  you next writing the post for me too..  the controlling sprit is not from God.. and you firstly  Judging me and saying next back  I cannot respond, judge you is also really absurd now on your own part too. You now id not like when I replied to your own  comments to me? Sorry, too bad. Grow up, become a decent, mature adult like me and stop being a spoiled brat, merely now a child. If you cannot handle the response you get from others just don’t write to them in the first place  now too. WHEN YOU DO START TO ACT LIKE AN ADULT I WILL NEXT NOT HAVE TO TREAT YOU LIKE A LITTLE KID.

Nice talking to you..

God bless  you

Bashing Pentecostals Christians on the net even by fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too