One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as helpers, pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. (Mat 7:20 KJV) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Only a fool does not know this man Arnold Murray is an idiot.. who teaches unbiblical things.. Those who do not understand God’s word, and those who have very little biblical training are easily misled by Arnold Murray ..The Shepherd’s Chapel is, at the very least, a false church with many unorthodox doctrines. Arnold Murray teaches in many areas of theology his own false brand of Christianity. Now why would anyone object to this truthful fact…
Unfortunately also, the doctrines that Dr. Murray teaches are not the “hidden wisdom” referred to in the letters of Paul but rather the imaginations of men. Shepherd’s Chapel is considered to be a non-Christian cult by many people..it is not Christian at all in at least one very important essential; he denies the doctrine of the Trinity. This is a serious error for him as it is a denial of the true and living God. Arnold Murray falsely teaches blasphemy of the truth even a a form of work’s (earned) salvation. Make no mistake about it, according to the Chapel, it is not the works you do in this world which earn your election, it is rather the works you did in the former world (which you cannot remember), these works make you the elect. Arnold Anne Murray teaches election by deeds which you did in another age. That is a lying dream, it is contrary to the scriptures.
Yes his teachings are condemned Murray teaches the heresy known as modalism, that God is one person who takes three forms: the Father who became the Son who became the Holy Spirit. Also, the Shepherd’s Chapel falsely teaches what is called the Christian Identity movement. This is the belief that the British and, therefore, the Americans and Canadians, are the true descendants of the ancient Israelites the 10 lost tribes. and because he is wrong in some areas means he is also very wrong in other areas now too.. Pastor Murray about “Noah’s little old flood” the flood was not world-wide and that was how Cain’s descendants got through the flood. Then he brought in this trash idea that, “It was 8 Adamic Souls on the Ark.” For one, Cain was “Adamic.” Eve was taken out of Adam and Cain was the son of Eve, correct? So Cain is a descendant of Adam, even if Satan was his Dad. Now that whole bunch of garbage about other “kinds” of “souls” getting on the ark ought to be discarded as such. The souls of men are one “kind” in the bible.
Wrongfully Pastor Murray has introduced much fiction into the scriptures. Get back to what the Bible actually teaches.. One of the deepest things that God teaches in the word, and that people miss, is that unconfessed sin is going to be the downfall of many, their road to hell, even many who think that they are followers of Christ even. Matt7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not … in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Gal 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? 8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you. 9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. http://oraclesofgod.org/shepherds_chapel.htm
Arnold Murray doesn’t offer much in the way of meat, and the milk is polluted with doctrines which ought to be silenced Pastor Murray says, “God Doesn’t Really Care About Your Little Old Sexual Sins,” but that what he really cares about is spiritual adultery. I.e. what god are you going to worship? The scripture teaches that whosoever commits sin is of the Devil. So, sinning in any form is rebellion against God, sin has to stop, that is what Jesus came into the world to do, to save us from our sins. Dr. Murray’s teaching is light on righteousness, in fact, Dr. Murray has said that anyone who says they are righteous is a hypocrite. The same thing with drinking; “spiritual drunkenness was “worse,” Dr. Murray’s teaching leaves room for people to continue in sin so long as it is not, “habitual sin” (whatever that means). Esau’s rejecting of his birthright was not an “habitual sin” but he still was rejected and found no place for repentance though he sought it, “carefully” and, “with tears.” (Hebrews 12:17) The Bible never speaks of “habitual” sins. Willful sins, yes. Committing sins, yes. Habitual sins, no. Dr. Murray it seems is justifying his own sins, unrepentance. Arnold Murray needs to repent. And stop following men, you will be very sorry for it. Repent of their false doctrines and turn to the truth, God’s Word, which shall make you free indeed. Make your calling and election sure.
His false teachings now still included
2.Denies the existence of eternal Hell.
A.This contradicts the Bible’s teaching. Rev. 20:10, “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.” Matt. 25:46, “And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
3: denies the need for full repentance.
But who am I to say? I’m not his judge”???
If you yourself now cannot judge what people are like so how can you see the devil then too?
You yourself are not Holy Spirit filled even then.. one needs to deal with that firstly.. Of course the devil does not want you to have the gift of discernments of Spirits.. if the devil cannot get at you personally he will next come to you directly in the form of a bother, sister even, a person.. (2 Cor 2:11 KJV) Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
There is no such thing as living in a world in which individuals are not being judged by others for the actions that they take or what they say. Making a statement such as, “you cannot judge me”, is ludicrous. A Christian person still can judge another Christian’s individual’s behavior or actions, writings, speech but not the intent of any individual’s heart. Only God can do that.. But God alone will judge the non Christians, not us, and we cannot judge what other people do eat as being right or wrong. Had you read your Bible seriously you would have known all this this
(1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?
Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Hey I point something out to a net poster, or a church goer, and he goes haywire.. such as when I honestly, lovingly say as “how can you go to a Christian Church and really, obviously still do not know God, Jesus, the Holy spirit personally”? now have you also experienced that? I have too often for my liking the last 4 decades even.. I am nice to the good persons and the bad person gets what he deserves..
Hey I admit it I dislike those evident show off, competitive posters, preachers rather those still novices, who want to ASAP preach to everyone else, clearly still not led by the holy spirit, because we the older ones can tell how little they still really do know.. .. it seems they do need their diapers still changed.. “crap”… by the way they do also often next get really upset and tell me that a man of God does not speak that way to anyone.. they are ignorant of how all the Prophets spoke in the Old Testament Bible.. they also did not use sweet sounding words, pleasant phrases.. God does not spoil us too.. he may be a good of love but he is never ever dumb, unwise.. I am nice to the good persons and the bad person gets what he deserves..
. (Mat 11:16 KJV) But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Now real Biblical repentance evident and it includes s admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God, and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition, change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also a personal, ongoing event. It is visible to all now too..
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
(Rev 18:4 KJV) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (Rev 18:5 KJV) For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2 Timothy 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
Webster’s defines the act of judging as “to form an opinion about through careful weighing of evidence and testing of premises.” The problem arises because judging can be subjective. In other words, your judgments are based firstly on your own perceptions, motives, and understandings. This is why two people can judge the exact same situation and come up with different determinations. Did you with Katherine Khulman, examine her whole life, what she lived, preached, taught or just by one bad past act of her you condemned her falsely? Since the judgments of man are therefore rooted in the “opinions” of man or of a women, no man’s judgments can be taken as absolute or complete truth. What did God tell you now about her himself? Jesus was able to hear God’s words to pronounce God’s judgments. “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24). We must have our will in full subjection to God’s which enables us to know God’s own words on every subject and allows us to be sent by God to others with His message. Or did you now even bother to pray to him about her before you ran away with your condemnations? The Word of God says that God enables man to judge righteously, commands man to judge righteously too, and is pleased with those who seek to judge righteously . The fact that the desire to judge righteously is highly esteemed by God. King Solomon asks, “Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?” We are also told not to judge according to appearances or by the flesh (John 7:24; John 8:15; James 2:1-4).
This means that sound judgment cannot be based on what we see, hear, or think. Since God’s thoughts and ways are higher than ours, He is not bound by our perceptions, opinions, or prejudices. This again is a confirmation that God alone is The Judge. Our judgments must therefore be based in His direct words to us in order for them to be true. So how is your real, direct communication now with God, does he talk and commune with you in all things?
The Bible forbids only the unrighteous judgment,
I Corinthians 11:31-32 that we judge ourselves first so that we will not be judged
(II Chronicles 19:6) “…Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.”
A false “accuser of the brethren.” is evident by ones clear absence of real love for them too.
(Prov 31:8 KJV) Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. 9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
(1 Cor 5:12 KJV) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
(1 Cor 6:2 KJV) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
(1 Cor 10:15 KJV) I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
(1 Cor 14:40 KJV) Let all things be done decently and in order. and “Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus” (Colossians 3:17).
It is always evident that the mostly still liars, people claiming to be good persons, who try to enforce the one way rules on others, those even they do not practice, are still just liars and hypocrites.. and of course they do not want you to judge them, to know and expose this to any others.. all people are entitled to their views, opinions now, free speech, a right to be heard but that does not mean firstly that they are right in all that they say now and that secondly cannot be disputed, challenged now.. Clearly yet some people are afraid to face the honest discussions, reality, any critics so they are showing the truth still to all as to who they really are.. lost souls who still need to be saved in Jesus Christ .. sad but true..
Hebrews 4 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing ev…en to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
MOST PEOPLE CAN BE SO EASILY LIED AND IN FACT ARE LIED TOO TO CAUSE THEY RARELY READ THE BIBLE AND AS A RESULT THEY DO NOT FULLY KNOW WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS FOR THEMSELVES