“Why do bad things happen to supposedly good people?” cause God is chastening us? or not!

THE BIBLE ITSELF SAYS that the ignorant fools do not even know why they have so many problems or what to do with or about  them.

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Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

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Psalms 107:17 Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.

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Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
2 Peter 2: 9    The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Psalms 10: 43    Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD.
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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and here I often get an absurd response that the person is innocent, good, he or she has done no wrong and is not a sinner even.. 
Matthew 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21    Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22    But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23    Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
But their ignorance also of the Holy Spirit and his workings is even apparent to me
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Yes we are all  sinful each one of us, and secondly, we do live in a sin-cursed, sin-stained fallen world, a world controlled by the devil.  as a direct result we face daily many difficulties, struggles too.
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It is this also true God even allows bad things to happen to His people to wean them from their sins and from the  world… . to separate the chaff from the wheat.. or to reveal  what you love most. If you love your money, possessions, family etc., over God for example.. Trials, extremities, difficulties in life will always reveal what you love most.. are there even to cause a change in one’s  direction..
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John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
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or God even allows bad things to happen to His people to cause them to be more compassionate on others…
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2 Corinthians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
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Psalms 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
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Ezekiel 14:23 And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord GOD
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Chastening, trials also allow God to teach us obedience..
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1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
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Hebrews 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
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7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
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11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
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1 Corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
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God even allows bad things to happen to His people to test the validity of their faith … 
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2 Chronicles 32:30    This same Hezekiah also stopped the upper watercourse of Gihon, and brought it straight down to the west side of the city of David. And Hezekiah prospered in all his works. 31    Howbeit in the business of the ambassadors of the princes of Babylon, who sent unto him to enquire of the wonder that was done in the land, God left him, to try him, that he might know all that was in his heart.
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Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
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Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
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Romans 5:
1    Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2    By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3    And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4    And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5    And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
6    For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7    For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8    But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9    Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10    For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11    And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
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1 Peter 2
20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
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James 5
11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
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James 4
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
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1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
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Can it supposedly be true now that  a professing Christian persons now  continually is having difficulties, problems in his life and  it is mainly cause God is chastening him.. and yet it seems to me that even  if you know that God is chastening you for your sins, even the sins of obedience, the chastening is short lived  if you would humble yourself and confess your sins, repent, stop the specific  wrong doings and all that  would not God now next forgive you and stop thus type of chastening? 
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Does not God say also 2 Corinthians 1: 11  that  through the  prayers of others next God’s  favor will be bestowed upon the afflfflicted person, and they will be delivered  
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James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
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John 11:4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
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or is there really another major reasons this persons is having Satan buffeting him?  Is someone falsely too proud and that still is the reason they are supposedly being punished?  Now apostle Paul was clearly buffeted by sin for his past unacceptable sins of persecuting,  killing Christian.. is that why so many are facing satanic buffetings now?
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2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
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Hebrews 5: 2    Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
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Psalms 34:19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.
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2 Timothy 4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.
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Ps 138:7  Though I walk in the midst of trouble, You preserve my life. You stretch out Your hand against the anger of my foes; with Your right hand You save me.
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Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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Many persons are falsely still living in the Kingdom of self.. There Is Absolutely No Doubt Many Many Professing Christians Are Misleading Themselves That They Are Real Christians, even sincerely. and because their own false definition of what is a real Christian is firstly unBiblical. Being a Christian does not mean accepting that Jesus Christ is God or merely being a follower of Christ, it includes even giving over your whole life, possessions, goals, desire, aims, dreams, ambitions to the lord Jesus Christ and there is no such thing as Giving Jesus only a portion of your life.
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2 Peter 2:
1    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2    And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3    And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5    And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6    And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7    And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8    (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
9    The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
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Be still my soul, the Lord is on thy side. Bear patiently the cross of grief or pain, leave to thy God to order and provide, in every change He faithful will remain. Be still my soul, thy best thy heavenly friend through thorny ways leads to a joyful end. Be still my soul, thy God doth undertake to guide the future as He has the past, thy hope, thy confidence, let nothing shake. All now mysterious shall be bright at last, be still my soul, the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below. Be still my soul, the hour is hastening on when we shall be forever with the Lord, when disappointment, grief, and fear are gone, sorrows forgot. Love’s purest joy is restored. Be still my soul, when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last.”
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2 Corinthians 1: 
1    Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:
2    Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
3    Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
4    Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
5    For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
6    And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
7    And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation.
8    For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life:
9    But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:
10    Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;
11    Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.
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By the way, “we had the sentence of death in ourselves,” is a fascinating Greek word, apokrima, it’s used only here. It means, basically it’s a technical word for passing an official resolution. And he uses a legal term for passing the official death sentence. He says, “I pass the official death sentence on myself.”
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James 1:
1    James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
2    My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3    Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
4    But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
5    If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6    But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7    For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8    A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
9    Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:
10    But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away.
11    For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.
12    Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
13    Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14    But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15    Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16    Do not err, my beloved brethren.
17    Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
18    Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
19    Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
20    For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21    Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23    For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24    For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25    But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26    If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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Matthew 5 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 7 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me,

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Luke 15 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. 10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. 
2 Peter 2: 9    The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Psalms 10: 43    Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD.
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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“Every commandment which I command you today you must be careful to observe, that you may live and multiply, and go in and possess the land of which the LORD swore to your fathers. “And you shall remember that the LORD your God led you all the way these forty years in the wilderness, to humble you and test you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His  commandments or not. “So He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the LORD.  ”Your garments did not wear out on you, nor did your foot swell these forty years. “You should know in your heart that as a man chastens his son, so the LORD your God chastens you.  ”Therefore you shall keep the commandments of the LORD your God, to walk in His ways and to fear Him. Deuteronomy 8:1-6

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If suffering and poverty were God’s will in any shape or form for His people then God would not have delivered His people from Egypt and spoiled them with the wealth of Egypt. (God gave them so much silver and gold that they not only built the tabernacle with it but they have enough to take with them to the promised land.)  If poverty was God’s will He would not have brought them to a promised land – a good land, a land of brooks of water, of fountains and springs, that flow out of valleys and hills; a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive oil and honey; a land in which they ate bread without scarcity, in which they lacked nothing; a land whose stones were iron and out of whose hills they dug copper. A land where they built beautiful houses and dwell in them; where their herds and their flocks multiplied, and their silver and gold were multiplied, and all that they had was multiplied. (Deuteronomy 8:7-13)  God’s word is unchanging:

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“And you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day. Deuteronomy 8:18

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“Listen to Me, you who follow after righteousness, You who seek the LORD:  Look to the rock from which you were hewn,  And to the hole of the pit from which you were dug.  Look to Abraham your father,  And to Sarah who bore you; For I called him alone, And blessed him and increased him.”   For the LORD will comfort Zion,  He will comfort all her waste places; He will make her wilderness like Eden,  And her desert like the garden of the LORD;  Joy and gladness will be found in it, Thanksgiving and the voice of melody. Isaiah 51:1-3

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THE ELDER,    To the beloved Gaius, whom I love in truth:  Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers.  For I rejoiced greatly when brethren came and testified of the truth that is in you, just as you walk in the truth. 3 John 1:1-3

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Yes, God gives power to get wealth that that He may establish His covenant with His people. The problem that God’s people are not wealthy and prosperous is not with God but with His people who live in a wilderness of their own choosing and have not claimed all that is rightfully theirs. God’s has stated that His people can have whatever they desire and if they desire to have nothing and living in spiritual and physical poverty that is their choice! He will not interfere with their choices because God is a perfect gentleman and gives them the desires of their hearts:

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May He grant you according to your heart’s desire, And fulfill all your purpose. Psalm 20:4

You have given him his heart’s desire, And have not withheld the request of his lips. Selah Psalm 21:2

Delight yourself also in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart. Psalm 37:4

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. Matthew 11:12

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Yes, the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. Gideon and Barak and Samson and Jephthah,  David and Samuel and the prophets  through faith subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,  quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became valiant in battle, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. They just didn’t let things happen through their faith they made things too happen. Spoils of war went to those who fought in the battles even of their own choosing. The bible records for our profit and instruction:

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By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter,  choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin,  esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible. By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them. By faith they passed through the Red Sea as by dry land, whereas the Egyptians, attempting to do so, were drowned. By faith the walls of Jericho fell down after they were encircled for seven days. By faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace. Hebrews 11:24-31

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Yes, Moses when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter,  choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin,  esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward. Yes, the walls of Jericho fell down after they were encircled for seven days but only after Joshua did what the LORD had commanded him to do:

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After the death of Moses the servant of the LORD, it came to pass that the LORD spoke to Joshua the son of Nun, Moses’ assistant, saying:  ”Moses My servant is dead. Now therefore, arise, go over this Jordan, you and all this people, to the land which I am giving to them-the children of Israel. “Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you, as I said to Moses.  ”From the wilderness and this Lebanon as far as the great river, the River Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and to the Great Sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your territory. “No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life; as I was with Moses, so I will be with you. I will not leave you nor forsake you. “Be strong and of good courage, for to this people you shall divide as an inheritance the land which I swore to their fathers to give them. Joshua 1:1-6

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Joshua chose to believe the LORD and act upon the words that He had given him including “Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you.” Yes, God is speaking constantly to His people but they don’t hear Him or unlike Joshua refuse to act on His words:

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Now Jericho was securely shut up because of the children of Israel; none went out, and none came in. And the LORD said to Joshua: “See! I have given Jericho into your hand, its king, and the mighty men of valor.  ”You shall march around the city, all you men of war; you shall go all around the city once. This you shall do six days.  ”And seven priests shall bear seven trumpets of rams’ horns before the ark. But the seventh day you shall march around the city seven times, and the priests shall blow the trumpets. “It shall come to pass, when they make a long blast with the ram’s horn, and when you hear the sound of the trumpet, that all the people shall shout with a great shout; then the wall of the city will fall down flat. And the people shall go up every man straight before him.” Joshua 6:1-5

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Joshua believed God and went to war against Jericho and marched around the city once for six days. And then on the seventh day he marched around the city seven times, and the priests  blew the trumpets and all the people shouted with a great shout  then the wall of the city fell down just like God promised. Yes obedience to the words spoken by God and through His true prophets brings success and prosperity and spoils of war.  God’s word is unchanging:

And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.  ”He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.  ”And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;  ”they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”   So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.  And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen. Mark 16:15-20

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“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. John 14:12

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It is a fact that western Christianity might be rich in organization, theology, doctrine, and tradition, but it is poor in spirit and sorely needed re-centering on the foundation from which it had strayed: the living Christ. Although the West owes so many of its blessings to Christianity there is little a desire for higher things. It worships, not God, but armed force, power, material things and fame. The West is like Judas Iscariot, who ate with Jesus, only to later deny him. The West ought to fear the fate of Judas, lest it hang itself on the tree of learning and knowledge rather than faith in God. They have for centuries been surrounded by Christianity, entirely steeped in its blessings, but the God’s truth has not penetrated them. Christianity is not at fault but rather in the hardness of their hearts. Materialism and intellectualism have made their hearts hard. The cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches have choked the words of Jesus sown in their hearts. Just as salty seawater cannot quench thirst, much of American religion cannot satisfy a spiritually thirsty person because it is saturated with materialism. God’s word is unchanging:

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“Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. “But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”

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Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field;  ”but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. Matthew 13:22-25

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God’s people cannot blame everything on their enemy, the devil, they must take responsibility for their own sins and choices in life and must repent of them. True riches come from God and not from what men pursue.  http://walthope.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/by-bread-alone/

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“And you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day. Deuteronomy 8:18
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Notice that there are two category of persons, one Category includes this persons who cry to God and he hears their prayers, does not meet their needs, and delivers them from their oppressions and hears their prayers. this group is the humble servants of God.
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Psalms 107:19 Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses.
28 Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.
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Isaiah 19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
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But there is also another category of persons who cry unto God and God doe not hear their prayers.. This group is the self willed persons.
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Jeremiah 11:11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.
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Micah 3:4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
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Psalms 107:
1    O give thanks unto the LORD, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
2    Let the redeemed of the LORD say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy;
3    And gathered them out of the lands, from the east, and from the west, from the north, and from the south.
4    They wandered in the wilderness in a solitary way; they found no city to dwell in.
5    Hungry and thirsty, their soul fainted in them.
6    Then they cried unto the LORD in their trouble, and he delivered them out of their distresses.
7    And he led them forth by the right way, that they might go to a city of habitation.
8    Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
9    For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness.
10    Such as sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, being bound in affliction and iron;
11    Because they rebelled against the words of God, and contemned the counsel of the most High:
12    Therefore he brought down their heart with labour; they fell down, and there was none to help.
13    Then they cried unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saved them out of their distresses.
14    He brought them out of darkness and the shadow of death, and brake their bands in sunder.
15    Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
16    For he hath broken the gates of brass, and cut the bars of iron in sunder.
17    Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.
18    Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the gates of death.
19    Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses.
20    He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
21    Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
22    And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing.
23    They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24    These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25    For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26    They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27    They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit’s end.
28    Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.
29    He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.
30    Then are they glad because they be quiet; so he bringeth them unto their desired haven.
31    Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
32    Let them exalt him also in the congregation of the people, and praise him in the assembly of the elders.
33    He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry ground;
34    A fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein.
35    He turneth the wilderness into a standing water, and dry ground into watersprings.
36    And there he maketh the hungry to dwell, that they may prepare a city for habitation;
37    And sow the fields, and plant vineyards, which may yield fruits of increase.
38    He blesseth them also, so that they are multiplied greatly; and suffereth not their cattle to decrease.
39    Again, they are minished and brought low through oppression, affliction, and sorrow.
40    He poureth contempt upon princes, and causeth them to wander in the wilderness, where there is no way.
41    Yet setteth he the poor on high from affliction, and maketh him families like a flock.
42    The righteous shall see it, and rejoice: and all iniquity shall stop her mouth.
43    Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD.
It has been my too many years of personal experiences that the perverse Pentecostal preachers, the  prosperity prostitutes, adulterers, adulterers persons, some of them who falsely even  tithe to get richer, and not rather to help the poor persons,  are still really nits, for they do clearly now as well do really despise the poor and needy persons, and falsely covet to be richer and yes they also they can be found in both the secular and religious camps, yes their own attitudes, behaviors tend to be very similar. Even the very loudly professing Christians, the religious persons, the rather still carnal persons, the Judas followers,  while they now even do profess to be moral good living persons  but still when it comes to making more money they clearly bend their rules on morality, ethics, honesty, and they will even cheat, lie steal to acquire more wealth… they do also mainly still also do see other people as slave objects, slaves that can be used to help them increase their personal acquisition,  and they will cast out, sell out their poor  relatives, relationships still too..  but they still will even profess to be good persons even Christians  now too… and try to buy their way into heaven.
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I can truly say I have walked with great joy the last 25 years, God meeting all of my needs, and any difficulties , trials I faced they were quite short lived now too.. they do not go on and on.. while God still corrects me  I have not been during this time  punished for any of my sins, cause I gave myself all to the Lord Jesus Christ.. all.
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