Is it True or false?

 Acts 20: 29-31 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one day and night with tears.   

  II Peter 2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily (in a sneaky way) shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2  And many shall follow their pernicious ways (lascivious ways, as it reads in the margin); by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment of a long time slumbereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.    

 

(1 Cor 11:22 KJV)  What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.   (James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

 

  I Samuel 15:22: Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.  Because thou hast rejected the Word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king  

 

and where are  Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart and some of the others these days?  

 

(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. I John 3:18 exhorts us to love not just in word, but in deed and in truth.  Note –  Acts 4:35  “And laid them down at the apostles’ feet.  And distribution was made to every man according as he had need.” (The money was collected to support  the needy in the church and the   “tithing” occurs nowhere in this context!) Acts 5:4 “Whiles it remained, was it not thine OWN?  and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? THOU HAST NOT LIED UNTO MEN, BUT UNTO GOD. Acts 5:8  And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.”  Now why is it so many preachers are not afraid of the lies they make to others, God that they make collecting the tithes, monies  today too?  Acts 20:27: “For I have not shunned to declare unto you ALL the counsel of God.” ” If monetary tithing had been in force in the early church Paul would surely have mentioned it.  Monetary tithing was not enforced in the Church until the sixth century A.D., when it was made church law  by two Catholic Church councils in Europe. ”   http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id1.html   

 

Take specifically the case of Ananias and Sapphira.  Exactly what specific sin could the couple have committed that was so bad that next God would strike them dead for it?  Now  their sin even firstly had firstly NOTHING to do with stealing any of monetary tithing.  Their death didn’t even happen as punishment for being stingy with their freewill offerings or maybe failing to tithe but it was the clear sin now of “lying” to God firstly about the amount of their OWN money  supposedly donated and  not at all about any money they had owed to the church.  Ananias and his wife had  wanted a false credit for giving an amount he didn’t actually give. Like many people who make false church tax donations claims even today. Ananias and Sapphira were the equivalent of welfare cheats, in that they wanted to live off the church funds and still have something hidden away for personal use. Here were two wayward professing Christian sheep trying to pull the wool over God’s eyes, but they didn’t live to brag about it . 

 

“How many “faith” preachers in our day hoard vast riches for themselves while crying to  “seed sowers” EVEN THOSE on Social Security  to send in money or they’ll go bust! ”  “How many of these evil religious, TITHE, donations peddlers shamelessly appeal to the story of Elijah being fed by the last of a starving widow’s flour and oil so they can put more bread in their bank account and fuel their own lusts! done all the while deliberately withholding  part of the Truth of His Word from the Body of Christ to leech off of poor brethren so they themselves can splash around in the lap of luxury!   ” Some of ye are sick and nigh unto death cause ye do approach the Lord’s table unworthily. 

 

(1 Cor 11:27 KJV)  Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.  28    But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32   But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

 

(1 Cor 10:21 KJV)  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. (1 Cor 6:2 KJV)  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?   (Luke 16:11 KJV)  If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? (Luke 16:13 KJV)  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Mat 6:25 KJV)  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?  (Mat 6:31 KJV)  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33   But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

  

Reminds me of a women that I know with 3 kids, who had asked the  local church for social aid, so next they gave her 7,500 dollars , while she did not declare to them still that she had 25,000 dollars  in government bonds in a safe that she was saving for a rainy day.

 

Or the lying pastor that I knew too from Calgary Bearspaw House of faith  who tells everyone that he lived solely by faith in God to supply all of his finical needs neglecting to tell them he also has a church salary, and an expenditure budget. Ironically he simultaneously was even accused of falsifying and misappropriating  the expenditures and was eventually dismissed form the church for this too.

 

The age of grace did not cause God to overlook these unrepentant sins.

  

 

“Tithing Truth in a Nutshell

 

1. Unqualified religious leaders (Gentiles) should not take up tithes.

2. God’s tithe NEVER consisted of money!

3. NOWHERE in either Testament are Christians commanded to pay monetary tithes.

4. Tithes consisted only of agricultural produce.

5. Biblical tithes were also sometimes EATEN by the worshipper himself!

  

Deuteronomy 14: 22-27  deals with the Festival Tithe, one of three tithes paid by the laity of Israel.  I’ve been a believer for many, many years, and NOT ONCE have I ever heard this Scripture passage expounded on by any tithe-taking preacher.  I wonder why!

  

Verse 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase (harvest) of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

  

Verse 23 And thou (the tithe-payer!) shalt EAT before the LORD thy God, in the place which He shall chose to place His name there, the tithe of thy  corn, of thy wine, and of thy olive oil, and of the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.  Tithes were EDIBLE things! Pottery makers and sandal makers didn’t tithe on their products. Unless you raised crops or livestock, you didn’t owe any tithes.

 

Verse 24 introduces the only context in the whole Bible where money is mentioned in conjunction with tithing!  And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set His Name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee;

  

Verse 25 Then thou shalt turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shalt choose:

  

Verse 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after; for oxen, or for sheep,  or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and THOU SHALT EAT  there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thy household,

 

Verse 27  And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee (in the Promised Land).

 

 

Numbers 18:21-24 says makes it plain that only the  sons of Levi were ever authorized by God to collect tithes, and only from the children of Israel. No other tribes of Israel were ever  supposed to collect tithes, and the Levitical priesthood ended in 70 A.D. when the Temple was destroyed

 

Old Testament tithes were never used for building projects, so why is that being done today?

 

Nowhere in Scripture is any Christian authorized to request the tithe.

 

Even Jesus did not finance His own ministry with tithes. If He had, He never would have had to say: The Son of Man hath nowhere to lay His head (Matt.8:20). 

 

In Malachi  the purpose of the tithe was to keep FOOD, NOT MONEY, in God’s House (Malachi 3:10). Why?   The Levites (priestly tribe of Israel) were denied an inheritance (of real estate) in the Promised Land. The tithe was their compensation for this, and their reward for their Tabernacle service (Numbers 18:21-24).  Still other tithes were set aside to be  consumed by worshippers and the poor at their yearly festivals (Deut.12:17-18; 14:22-27)  . Every third year, a special tithe was stored up for the poor within the city gates (Deut.14:28-29). 

 

Tithing was done six years out of every seven.  Every seventh year the Land was to lie fallow, to give the land a rest (Lev.25:1-4). No tithes would be collected that year at all.   Have you ever heard of any present churchgoer getting a rest every  seventh year from paying tithes?

 

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id13.html      

Church Practices

EARLY CHURCH

MODERN CHURCH
Financial Contributions Free will offerings collected for the needy only, no tithing (2 Cor.9:7).  Members met in private homes (Rom.16:5; I Cor.16:19; Col.4:15) Tithing aggressively taught.  Non-tithers shamed.  Money provides pastor’s perks, building fund, landscaping, exciting programs, etc.
Pastoral support Freewill giving, leadership sometimes worked on side (2 Cor.11:9; I Thes.2:9) Leadership supported mainly through tithes, often live lavishly.
Church Authority Elders taught and led by example, but all related to one another as brethren (Matt.23:8; I Pet.5:3).  Only ONE Lord (Eph.4:5). Heirarchy of MANY lords run the institutional church, from senior pastor all the way down to the deacon.
Giving & Receiving EQUALITY of well-being preached by Paul (2 Cor.8:13-15).  All to have the same care one for another (I Cor.12:25). Poor parishioners support rich clergy.  Pastors drive fancy cars, take exciting holidays, and never stop begging for more.
Fellowship DAILY they fellowshipped and broke bread from house to house.  Christians shared possessions and looked after everyone’s well-being. (Acts 2:42-47) Churches divide into little cliques which some can’t fit into.  Lonely folks leave  church.  People say “hello” once a week and that’s it.  Occasional potluck meals, concerts, etc.
Church Ministry EVERYONE had something to contribute to service (I Cor.14:26; Eph.4:16).  No mention of pulpits, pews, etc.  The word “congregation” appears only in Old Testament, except for a gathering of Jews in Acts 13:43.  Clergy-laity divide didn’t exist in early church. “Pew saints” only pray, pay and obey. Ministry done mostly by pastor, visiting speakers and “song leaders”.  Congregation are mostly spectators. Even some Charismatic churches discourage spiritual gifts out of fear of offending visitors.
Evangelization Repentance toward God and faith toward Christ taught (Acts 20:21).  Preaching done in demonstration of the Spirit and in power (I Cor.2:4-5). Real faith bore witness  of Christ (Rom.1:8) Unconditional love of God preached, without mentioning “the wages of sin is death” (Rom.6:23). Free concerts for sinners. Positive messages only. Hell and God’s wrath against sin are taboo. Powerless sermons, keys to prosperity, self-help videos, slick marketing.

 

http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id57.html    

 

 It still is a a lack of living by faith and  a grave sin of covetness for all pastors to  distort, hold back part of God’s Truth from the church to protect, insure  their own financial income. All sorts of real sinners now had inhabited Jesus’ world  2000 years ago.  Harlots, thieves, tax collectors, even murderous brigands like Barabbas. But still now about the only sinners Jesus ever  chewed out in the Gospels were the self-righteous Pharisees, who devoured widows’ houses and turned their converts into twice the son of hell as themselves (Matt: 23:14-15).  That now includes those false preachers of today who would say that only if you tithe especially to the local pastor’s storehouse you are spiritual.     

 

”  Making Merchandise of the Unpardonable Sin Ezekiel 13:22;  Acts 20:27-30   

Desperate ministers of deceit are like bloodsuckers who try to squeeze the last drop dry from anemic sheep, the way they change their tactics from bad to worse as they sense the winds of change in My beleaguered body.  In time of abundance fishers for funds siphon off a little of the extra fat from well-to-do contributors and even urge poorer saints to be willing to tighten their belts and do without a few luxuries, supposedly for the sake of the “Kingdom of God.” They would dangle a glittery prosperity carrot before the bedazzled eyes of My people, promising that they would be repaid for their generosity on a ratio of a hundred to one. Scriptures would be jerked out of their context to prove I was the ultimate investment, and “you can’t get better odds in Vegas.”

 

What garbagey theology!  The promises I made to those who sow seeds into the Kingdom of God meant that a great harvest of souls would be reaped into My eternal Kingdom, and the good works of My Spirit of Grace would be spread abroad to bless many unto a newness of life.  As for those who are hardened in heart and love riches more than Me, their dirty money perish with them!  Now that times are harder for so many, they are switching from the carrot approach to the stick approach, both diabolical perversions of My Word.  Some are filling My children’s hearts with fear that I will execute them like Ananias and Sapphira if they withhold donations from their so-called ministries or refuse to tithe on money, which is nowhere commanded in My Word. Most of those deceivers know that robbing My people of their sustenance is a doctrine of devils!  Saints whom I have chosen to enter into My perfect rest of peace have been troubled and I shall surely trouble those who sow lies into their hearts, saith the Lord. Those greedy deceivers who make the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad, I shall make sad in return.  That is the only return they will get on their investment of lies. They shall surely have their day in the Court of Heaven to answer for what they have done to hurt and rob My Body.

 

Satan instills lying guilt feelings in millions of My children today because they are unable to give massive amounts of money to religious organizations.  Some are told that it is a sin against the Holy Ghost to be stingy in their contributions and they won’t get to heaven unless they open their wallets more.  Unfounded fear of being guilty of the unpardonable sin has ruined the peace and the health of so many of My children.  But the unpardonable sin has nothing to do with money!  It is a sin against the Love of God which is committed by attributing the wonderful works of My Spirit of Grace to the devil, or speaking slanderous words against My Holy Spirit, which brings eternal alienation from the only One Who can perform the marvelous work of redemption down in your inward parts.

 

The sin committed by Ananias and Sapphira was to lie to My Holy Spirit, not to refuse to fork over ten percent of their wages to bogus ministries.  If this couple had admitted to Peter that they lacked the faith to give all the price of the land and so were only giving part of the money to the church, they would have been spared judgment because they would not have been lying to the apostles. They were not even required to sell their land in the first place, for Peter said unto the couple, “While the land remained, was it not thine own? And after it was sold, was the money not in thine power?”  Ananias and Sapphira had the right to either keep their land or sell it, and after they sold it they even had the right to keep the money or just donate part of it.  But these deceivers wanted to gain credit for giving a bigger donation than they actually did, in order to live off the church common fund and hold something back for a rainy day.  But their rainy day came sooner than they expected, saith the Lord, because you cannot deceive Me.  I who weigh the thoughts and intents of the soul know what that two were conspiring against Me, to rob My people.

  

So who is robbing My people today; poor saints who withhold part of their paycheck from greedy ministers of darkness, or learned religious experts who withhold that part of the Truth of My Word which they find unprofitable, and then boldly declare unto My Church: “I have faithfully declared unto you ALL the counsel of God.”  Instead, they sell My people a pack of lies.

  

Most of the wolves in sheep’s clothing who try to scare My people with the story of Ananias and Sapphira KNOW that the real issue in it was lying to the Holy Spirit, not non-tithing or refusing to give a required donation.  But these same false ministers know their Bible inside out and yet they sit on truths I would share with My people which would liberate them from the bondage of fear.  These evil men and women take advantage of My people’s ignorance of scripture to pry “tithes” out of them, and to maximize their ministry income so they can live luxuriously like the parasites they are.  So who is really guilty, saith the Lord? Those who honestly cannot afford big contributions and don’t give unless I direct them to, or lying deceivers who hold back non-lucrative portions of My Word from their flocks?  Poor, destitute saints who hold back part of the amount these mooches want find out in a hurry that it makes these men mean enough to breathe threats at them from the pulpit and over the air. They just can’t stand to have their luxurious lifestyle cramped by the poverty of their listeners. And so these men withhold truths unprofitable to their banks accounts; scriptural truths of the Gospel of Grace which expose the darkness and folly of the lies of the Gospel of Greed.  Liberating truths are suppressed which would profit My Body and set them free from the lies which fill them with fear.

 

I will surely go from place to place, saith the Lord, and I shall cut the leeches off My Body.  And I shall surely cut the fetters off My people so they can walk in the liberty unto which I have called them.  ”  http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id1.html

 

“Acts Chapter 15 tells of a great theological dispute among early church leaders. Were non-Jewish believers obligated to keep the Law of Moses in order to earn and keep their salvation?  None other than the Apostle Peter says that if the Old Law was hard for Jews to bear, why should Gentile believers, who were already justified by faith, have that burdensome yoke placed on them?
 
The apostles reached a sensible decision.  Only four restrictions would be placed upon the  liberty of the Gentile believers:
 
   To refrain from:
 
     1. Foods offered to Idols
     2. Fornication
     3. Meat from strangled animals
     4. The consumption of blood
 
Those original builders of the Church believed that if just those four things were observed, God could surely take care of the rest. Conspicuous by its absence is the Law of Tithing.”
http://banpreachergreed.tripod.com/id11.html

 

(Luke 14:26 KJV)  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
 
(Luke 14:33 KJV)  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
  
 

 Just like today in social aid, the people receiving social  aid they now cannot own major tangible property, real estate, so any of   the people, priests  receiving the old testament tithes they also could not own any major tangible, real estate  properties.. but today the false priest, pastors who are demanding on receiving tithes they falsely also do want to still own a home… to enjoy the monetary rewards of both.. they are still equivalent of welfare cheats!!!!

do see also https://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

 

“Preachers are committing this sin by adding Tithing on Wages, NOWHERE taught even under the Old Law!  Preachers latch onto the ten per cent figure because it seems like a good idea, regardless of what God thinks.  But they neglect the Israelites’ third-year tithe taken to feed the poor
 
 (Deut.14:28-29).  When was the last time any preacher ever told you to go buy a six-pack of Bud with some of your tithe money?  Why all the fuss over one or two isolated and misapplied verses in Malachi 3?  Why don’t preachers ever mention THIS tithing passage?  It’s in the Bible!  I didn’t put it there, so don’t blame ME!
 
Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Verse 23: And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Verse 24: And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Verse 25: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Verse 26: AND THOU SHALT BESTOW THAT MONEY FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL LUSTETH AFTER, FOR OXEN, OR FOR SHEEP, OR FOR WINE, OR FOR STRONG DRINK, OR FOR WHATSOEVER THY SOUL DESIRETH: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household
 
Notice, tithed produce was sometimes turned into money (the ONLY context in which money is associated with tithing in Scripture), but money itself was not turned in as the tithe!  Instead, the tithing farmer or rancher only bought more food with it when he got to Jerusalem, some of which he consumed himself! Tithe-collecting preachers not only ADD TO what God commanded in His Word, they DIMINISH (take away) from God’s Word by forbidding us to go out and buy Bacardi Breezers with “tithe money”.  Old sluefoot is thrilled when money-hungry preachers tamper with the terms and conditions of God’s Law, because in Revelation 22:19 God promised to disinherit those who added to or subtracted from Scripture. When preachers say you can’t buy wine or strong drink with “tithe money” they’re actually taking away from Scripture! 
 
Through the Tithing Lie, satan has created a class system of cliques in what originally was a church knit together in the love of Christ, sharing and caring one for another AS EQUALS (Acts 4:34-37; 2 Cor.8:13-14). Those ancient Christians actually shared their possessions with one another. I can just hear some pious preacher yelling that today that means only SPIRITUAL possessions, and hands off HIS Ferrari coupe!
 
Besides robbing god’s people of their blood-bought freedom from the Law, what OTHER victories does satan win through tithing on monetary wages, which is NOWHERE taught in all of scripture?   http://www.scribd.com/doc/4617708/Fasting-Tithing-Blessing-Bringers-or-Burdens  
 
 
 
I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.
  
(1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:
 
Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..
 
It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
 
 
When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?
 
So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seems
 
Many Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..
 
(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
 
(Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
 
(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
 
(John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
 
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
(John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 
 
 
 
While God does not command mandatory tithing in the New Testament, I might expect that God will bless some of the people who voluntarily tithe, give ten percent of all their income to God, in the place God specially now tells them to give too,  for God diligently rewards those who put their trust in Him, obeys and follows his revealed will to them, but for  sure God does not bless all of the tithers, for it depends on the initial reasons as to why they do tithe, which too often they can still be wrong reasons, selfish, self centered reasons like seeking self prosperity, financial security or showing off, boasting. For a true godly Christian believer is already  promised now personal security in God, and all of their needs, not wants and desires , to be meet..
 
 Psalm 1:1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.  3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
  
No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.
 
 
(Mat 5:19 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  

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I am a Canadian, retired and I do have an Engineering degree, from Concordia University , Montreal 1968, plus I had also now worked as a Re/Max Realtor in Calgary too. I follow Jesus, as per Matthew 2:37 The Old covenant from God is only to the Jews, Israel. Now I am very heatedly involved in both Christianity and politics as well and I am very popular for my Graphic sites. I have Pastored a Church or a few years and have dealt with many many politicians. I am a moderator on two Donald trump political sites on Google+ : Liberty Price, and PRESIDENT TRUMP My own most Popular face book sites are https://www.facebook.com/Christian.Graphics.Free.Pictures.Posters/ https://www.facebook.com/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement-166907416793938/ https://www.facebook.com/His.Christian.Ministry/ My own most Popular wordpress sites are https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/ Canadian Politics https://musttrustobey.wordpress.com/ American Politics https://postedat.wordpress.com/ Christian Topics https://dispensatiionalism.wordpress.com/ https://asposed.wordpress.com/ About the Messianic Jews https://stayinhealth.wordpress.com/ https://putin1hero.wordpress.com/ https://freechristianwallpapersposters.wordpress.com/ https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2018/09/02/links-free-scenic-wallpapers-with-bible-verses-bibles-christian-writings-ebooks/ https://cityocean.wordpress.com/ Ocean City, New Jersey USA https://nclgetaways.wordpress.com/2015/12/09/ caribbean-cruise Google Plus https://plus.google.com/104514506324197617910 I am also a Conversation starter, 1/ 45 most popular posters the last month President Donald J. Trump Supporters Group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/1187047314639471

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