Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfuly cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back..
Most Christians still do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a day, so they talk about things they really do not know, have not experienced, and the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too but they love to judge the others.
My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?
“There is no question that is is pretty hard to obey a book that you don’t read. I agree that the lack of respect for, reading of and obedience to scripture is epidemic. If the church would simply open God’s word in faith and allow the Spirit to lead and teach us and then if we would respond in submissive obedience out of a heart of simple faith, I believe the world would be different. I also agree that it is impossible to know God without seeking Him as He has revealed Himself to us in His word. So many “Christians” speak of a God they clearly have not spent time with as He Himself has revealed Himself.”
If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish cheapskates.
Secondly all pastors, elders, ministers should be called specifically for their Ministry directly by God. Most of them today have not been called for the ministry, for they are hirelings.
True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one hour and pray daily for others.
what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act like real anointed Christians. http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!!
I have dealt with that issue on my sites in detail.. we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.
I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..
Now let me have my right of defence, my full right of free speech too, for in your own personal attack of me , your false judging of me too, someone you never met or know now firstly too, so now as you are aware you DE HORRD are not a court appointed judge, and we are not in your court room, so I do not have to play to your false, one sided , often changing demands, demonic rules now too. I am not your slave, you are not by Boss, or a superior one, I do not work for you, I do not take orders from you, I rightfully do not have to do what you say, I can use my own right of free speech, I can write my own posts too still. I can do what I want on my own too. Now clearly your own behavior is clearly unchristlike, unchristian, and you need to have a more humble attiutide and Christ like firstly too. This is my site and not yours now too even. I am a decent, honest, law abiding Christian and a mature senior too. No one has ever found me guity of libel in any court of law too. Do also see my posts on Libel now too.
Firstly in kindness what real facts do and you have to deny any of this? Even about my past posts about how mostly bad most evangelical pastors now are?
The 30 percent ungodly divorce rate amongst evangelicals and the 70 percent ungodly evangelical pastors who counsel divorce too?
Or the mostly only Pentecostal major TV ministries under investigations by a US senator? and what not the rest in fairness now too?
Do read my sites.. about the Bad Christian Missionary Alliance church, about the bad pastors at the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church too. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry-still/ and http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/quartlerly-update-christian-posts/ and http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/pastors-elders-shepherds-christian-leaders-evangelists/
Please now also do cool down.. take a slow breathe of the spirit of God.. for contrary to what you wrote I have many times in reality now offered on my many sites the solutions to the problems of much too many bad pastors in North America, and yes too often it is the same major pastors who travel the evangelical circuits too.. even in the US or Canada, even in the same denominations now too.. even Benny Hinn was a [astor in Canada before he went to the US and so was Todd Bentley etc.. and many others now too.. it really is a small world..
You think that US Christians, pastors are more spiritual than those in Canada? and why is that?? do they not both have access to the same Holy Spirit, and even the same devil, and equally as well?
>> The majority of ministers I know are called by God, do cheat, lie, steal or any of the other things you claim.
>Also the majority of Christians I know are really Christians not merely professing with there mouths.
You had said that the Pastors cheat , lie andsteal, absue, slander but not their followers?
Still I was surprised in decades this is the fist time someone so unwisely had called me a liar so openly now too.. I of course wanted to know why? and what really sore toe or idol that had I stepped on in reality?
Please now also so called pastoral expert now do also now tell me SPECIALLY as to how many Pastor you had talked too that can SPECIALLY admit like I can the place, the time that GOD HAD CALLED THEM SPECIFICALLY INTO THE MINISTRY.. MOST pastor that I talked too, had asked this question too, they could nor and don’t even tell me the assurance of their specifc Ministry callings, yet you do give such a ridicuclous assurance on their behalf yourself now ? Why? the reality bothers you and you do not want to face it?
In your past pastoral experiences with Church pastors, now do also tell me as to how many pastors have you personaly, in detail
interviewed, 5 – 100? or more? and also how many did you help to be rightfully fired,
and how many bad churches now did you personally close as well?
I myself have been dealing with crooked pastors now specially for 3 decades.. and sadly I have seem much too seen many rightfully fired too, even 2 original Church founding pastors now too and I had helped to close one large bad evangelical church, the Calgary Christian centre, at God’s own specific request, directions to me too.
You have also now done how many church and pastoral visitations yourself the last 50 years too?
Now if you actually read my sites.. I had said cleary already said many times that the bad pastors should repent, change their bad lifestyle, and now stop cheating, lying, stealing and be rather filled, baptized with the holy spirit as the sole acceptable solution now too. Righfully so now too..
Supposedly you a Christian sister please do kindly note that I was never interesting in having a shouting match with you or anyone.. even about the bad pastors and now a major American news media had surveyed American pastors, and some of my personal sources about bad pastors also were major American pastors..
so you clearly are grasping at STRAWS to uphold the much too many fallen evangelical idols, pastors, and the abuses that do you and I do now hear about are not even the tip of the iceberg..
in one city alone I had personally had interview 45 evangelical pastors and none used the Bible in their Ministry..
so you can delete my posts but they anyway they are still posted on my sites… the undeniable truths as to what most pastors are like these days even witnessed by me the last 4 decades too and by many others too.
I admit there are much too many crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. but there seems much too many critics on the net.. who clearly are violating God’s instruction to try to talk to a brother humbly, personally about their sins, sins.. before shouting it from the housetops.. wrongfully mostly this is not been ing even done as we can all see on the net daily too.
I am a pastor, I have been to latter day Pentecostal churches, I have encountered good and bad pastors in many denominations including Alliance, Baptist, Pentecostal ones.. but firstly I tend to rightfully speak to a pastor face to face, get to know firsthand what he is like before I am wise enough to publically condemn, judge him
But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, how can you really judge the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..
Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof..
Now here for an example as to how I see ignorance, hidden agendas, bad critics when I make posts on the net too..
but this is what should not be amazing for real Christians.. I had posted the same initial simple reposes, comments on many professing Christian sites that I had visited today.. and I next had got mostly similar positive comments but on 2 of the sites the persons had written me back and sais they could not understand what I had shared.. and that often happens..
Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! You cannot even understand God’s truths.
(Rom 8:7 KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
(1 Cor 3:4 KJV) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it.. I understand some persons are more mature than others, some are spiritual and some just carnal even though they profess to be all Christians.
Like I often get this typical response “A hearty AMEN! Thanks for your comment. Be blessed. ”
“Hi Brother. thanks for dropping by. I totally agree with your comment, it wont eliminate dry times and trials but it is a vital part of our Christianity. … Frank”
hey I post the same posts on different professing Christian sites and I get different responses too.. interesting..
and yet I also get the clearly negative ones..
A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they will not contradict the Bible.. and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too.
But of course if any others because they really still do not know God and/or because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk with them thus they really should find out why too! otherwise they will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themselves instead..
So how are they dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their Lord, Savior, or are they just playing a religious game?
so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is reflective of the true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..
Now I have often already covered topics like this many times too on my own sites in detail. http://pbulow.tripod.com/ including the too often false Pentecostal bashers…
and you can also see what many others say too about the much too many bad pastors these days too
But firstly and sadly my you are wrongfully too free with your slandering, offensive, insulting words, libel words towards me and my posts.. for a start do you abuse everyone like this who writes now something you do not want to hear or just me.. or just me? RSVP.
but you STILL trying to tell me what I can or cannot write even to you is really grossly absurd as you next writing the post for me too.. the controlling sprit is not from God.. and you firstly Judging me and saying next back I cannot respond, judge you is also really absurd now on your own part too. You now id not like when I replied to your own comments to me? Sorry, too bad. Grow up, become a decent, mature adult like me and stop being a spoiled brat, merely now a child. If you cannot handle the response you get from others just don’t write to them in the first place now too. WHEN YOU DO START TO ACT LIKE AN ADULT I WILL NEXT NOT HAVE TO TREAT YOU LIKE A LITTLE KID.
Nice talking to you..
God bless you