Jews and their own need of Salvation by Jesus Christ still too

All Israel Shall Be Saved?

by Steve Wohlberg

Romans 11:26 says, “And so all Israel will be saved.” What does this mean?

Obviously, it doesn’t mean every Jew will be saved. In fact, the same chapter says God hopes to “save some of them” (vs. 14). Judas was a Jew, yet we know he will be lost for betraying Christ. Jesus called him, “the son of perdition” (John 17:12). Jesus told many Jews, “If you do not believe I am He [the Messiah], you will die in your sins” (John 8:24). Not every Jew believes in Jesus Christ, thus many will “die in their sins” and be lost.

Many Christians today interpret Romans 11:26 as applying to the end of the seven-year tribulation when Jesus appears in the clouds at His Second Coming. In other words, they don’t apply the verse to all Jews throughout history, but only to “all Jews” who are alive at the end. Supposedly, at the end of the tribulation, all remaining Jews in Israel will look up, see Christ coming in the clouds, realize He is the true Messiah, believe in Him, and thus “All Israel will be saved.”

This is a false teaching, as I will attempt to show.

  1. First, the context of Romans 11 is not the Second Coming.
  2. “There is no partiality with God” (Romans 2:5-11). It would be an act of partiality to save “all Jews” at the end, but not “all Jews” in history. The idea is, “When all final Jews see Christ coming in the clouds, then they will believe.” But this would give those final Jews a supposedly irresistible opportunity to believe in Jesus Christ which past Jews have not had. Nor would this be fair to “all Gentiles” living at the end. Why would God save all Jews at the end but not all Gentiles? All Gentiles will see Jesus coming just like all Jews.
  3. When Christ finally appears in the clouds, IT’S TOO LATE TO BELIEVE IN HIM. Rev. 22:11,12 says that before He comes in the clouds, all decisions have already been made. Jesus said it will be like Noah’s day (Mat. 24:37-39). In Noah’s day the door of the ark closed before the flood came (Gen. 7:16). When the flood came, it was too late. To save all Jews AT THE SECOND COMING would be like saving all those outside the ark WHEN THE RAIN STARTED FALLING.
  4. When Jesus comes in the clouds, this is the time of judgment upon ALL unbelievers who don’t know God nor obey the gospel (2 Thess. 1:7-10; Jude 14,15).

So what does this mean, “All Israel shall be saved”? First of all, Romans 9:6 says there are two Israels. one is an Israel according to the flesh (Romans 9:3,4) and the other is the Israel of God (Galatians 6:14-16). The Israel of God is composed of both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus Christ (Gal. 3:29). Gentiles who believe are grafted in. They become part of the “same body” with believing Jews (Eph. 3:6). Paul calls this unity of believing Jews and Gentiles, “the mystery of Christ” (Eph. 3:4).

The immediate context of Romans 11:26 is vs. 25. When “the fullness of the Gentiles has come in,” then “all Israel will be saved.” Or, to be exact, “And so all Israel will be saved.” In other words, the coming in of the fullness or total number of the Gentiles results in “all Israel” being saved. Paul’s idea seems to be that when all Gentiles (totally, throughout history) have come in, that is, have been grafted into the Vine, they, uniting with all Jews who have become believers, will form the total number of the saved. Paul also reveals that when Gentiles come in, God can use this to motivate some Jews to believe (verses 11 & 14). Vs. 25 calls this whole thing, “this mystery,” which we have already proven to be the “mystery” of both Jews and Gentiles being united in one body through Christ (Eph. 3:4,6). Vs. 27 says all are saved because Christ takes away their sins through His covenant, which must be the New Covenant, which applies to all believers, Jew and Gentile. Thus the “all Israel” that is saved is the total group of believing Gentiles and Jews combined.

The “all Israel that is saved” does not apply to all Jews throughout history, nor can it apply to a select favored group who become instant believers when Jesus Christ comes crashing down through the sky. By that time, it is too late to believe.

do see also https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/who-rules-your-rulers-god-himself/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

WHO RULES YOUR RULERS ? God himself?

 
Incredibly, the DC Zionist agents sent a huge American armada across the great seas to unleash a devastating military force against a people that never fired a shot at her, not even across her bow as they approached with their invading Christian army. As this invasion spreads throughout the Middle East and Asia, it will continue to be sold as a war on terror when in actuality it is a calculated plot.

As a few unsuspecting Jews, a lot of Christians and Muslims are led to the slaughter, the Neo-Zionist and their agents will continue to enslave and rob us of our national treasures and many will cheer their own demise.

Eustace Mullins was once labeled ‘the most dangerous man in America’ by war criminal Henry Kissinger. Mullins may be one of the most plagiarized authors in the world and has authored many books that are now hard to find. Although tens of thousand of copies have been printed, mysteriously many of them seem to disappear overnight.

Eustace Mullins is one of America’s foremost historian/researchers exposing facts over the last 50+ years that everyone in the world should know. However, these facts have been furiously suppressed by Zionists and their Neo-Con agents and the results have been (and will continue to be) devastating for the world.

Mullins has been vilified by the Zionist powers that be for his supposed anti-Semitism, but as you contemplate the hard facts he has compiled, you see something much more important and frightening than some allegation about verbal insults. You see in Mullins’ voluminous scholarship a clear and terrifying picture of the forces that control the world, and don’t care a whit about real people.

In the complete interview Eustace Mullins talks about the conspiracy of the Federal Reserve, The World Order, George Bush, Zionists, Israel, Mossad, Neo-Cons, CIA, FBI, 9/11, and the Zionists design for a Christian Muslim war.

Books and Writings by Eustace Mullins:

    Books and Papers
    The $5 Trillion Cold War Hoax
    The Rockefeller Syndicate
    The Secret History of the Atomic Bomb
    Phony Wars for Phony Peace and the Ministry of Fear
    The Curse Of Canaan: A Demonology Of History
    Murder By Injection
    Rape Of Justice America’s Tribunals Exposed
    Secrets Of The Federal Reserve
    The World Order Our Secret Ruler
    Education for Slavery
    The Rape of Justice ”

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4313144/Eustace_Mullins_-_The_Neo_Zionist_Order_(Full_1h38).avi

Now on top of all that too Insomnia also is a formidable foe to many persons world wide . Sadly too many people cannot get the daily sleep they need, it negatively affects one heart condition next too but I found the cure.. I recite these verses.. and I fall asleep quickly next  cause the devil does nto want me to mention them and he leaves me alone…

(Psa 127:2 KJV)  It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: for so he giveth his beloved sleep.

(Psa 4:8 KJV)  I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety.

(Psa 13:3 KJV)  Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;

(Psa 76:6 KJV)  At thy rebuke, O God of Jacob, both the chariot and horse are cast into a dead sleep.

(Psa 90:5 KJV)  Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.

(Psa 121:4 KJV)  Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.

(1 Pet 5:7 KJV)  Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

(1 Pet 5:8 KJV)  Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

(1 Pet 5:9 KJV)  Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/WebInfo8/Israel.html

THE LYING MESSIANIC JEWS, JUDASES,  WHO PREACH PARTIALS TRUTHS AND NEW TESTAMENT BIBLICAL DISTORTIONS ARE NOT THE REAL CHRISTIANS WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN, BUT ARE THE NON CHRISTIANS WHO WILL GO TO HELL EVEN WITH THE UNSAVED JEWS WHO REJECTED JESUS  CHRIST THE MESSIAH
 
The only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow  is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law  –  essentially the   the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the  Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament.  Believers should still embrace the whole Word of God but now they do not follow the non applicable old testament laws, rituals. The Old Testament has been superseded by the New Testament. We are not under the old testament laws but under those laws  solely in the new testament… the law of the spirit..(Rom 8:2 KJV)  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
 
The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus. The true Christians since Jesus Christ next always left their old Jewish Synagogues all together… and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well, also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . Some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the supposedly historical Jewish Jesus. why? Ironically this rather was aided also by the Jews, Judiazers, even the false Christians themselves who falsely wanted it seems to promote their own self importance, the false value of the now rather false, obsolete old Judaic religion, and it’s also still the false observation of the Old testament letter of the law over the New Testament spirit of the law approach. It is an ungodly act still too.

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Old Israel being God’s people for they still will go to hell LIKE MANY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WILL if they personally reject Christ and do not continue to follow after him. (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/messianic-judaism-today/

 
 
Jesus is the Prince of Peace.  Everyone has a right to free speech, a right to be heard, to live in peace, without abuses, oppressions, wars, human rights denials, or without slavery too.
 
“It makes no difference whether Israel oppresses Palestinians today or Arabs attempted to conquer Jews in 1948. None of those aggressions are tolerated here, period.”
 
AND  I TOTALLY AGREE.. HAD YOU READ MY SITE IN FULL.. BUT STILL OTHER PEOPLE DISAGREE. I BELIEVE THAT ARABS AND JEWS HAVE THE SAME FATHER ABRAHAM, ARE BROTHERS, AND THEY SHOULD ALL TRY TO LIVE IN PEACE TOGETHER ALWAYS.. FURTHER MORE THERE IS NO NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION FOR ISRAEL’S RETURN TO THE PROMISE LAND OR ANY ANY CLAIM BY THEM TO IT NOW TOO. ALL OF THE EVANGELICAL ZIONIST CHRISTIANS FALSE CLAIM TO THE PROMISED LAND OF ISRAEL TODAY ARE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. BUT NOW THE MESSIAH JESUS CHRIST OWNS IT ALL AND HE WILL COME BACK TO CLAIM IT.. yes I do  allow dialogues on the matter too.
 
I prefer to believe that God still rules the Universe, and while I certainly rightfully do not approve of many wrong things the Jews also  do in Israel  today.. I do not agree with those people who continually hate the Jews and blame everything on them still too.. especially the Muslim terrorists themselves..
 
Jer 26:2 Thus says the Lord: Stand in the court of the Lord’s house [Jeremiah] and speak to all [the people of] the cities of Judah who come to worship in the Lord’s house all the words that I command you to speak to them; subtract not a word.
Jer 26:3 It may be that they will listen and turn every man from his evil way, that I may relent {and} reverse My decision concerning the evil which I purpose to do to them because of their evil doings.
Jer 26:4 And you will say to them, Thus says the Lord: If you will not listen to {and} obey Me, to walk in My law, which I have set before you,
Jer 26:5 And to hear {and} obey the words of My servants the prophets, whom I have sent to you urgently {and} persistently–though you have not listened {and} obeyed–
 
Jer 22:3 Thus says the Lord: Execute justice and righteousness, and deliver out of the hand of the oppressor him who has been robbed. And do no wrong; do no violence to the stranger {or} temporary resident, the fatherless, or the widow, nor shed innocent blood in this place. Jer 22:5 But if you will not hear these words, I swear by Myself, says the Lord, that this house will become a desolation.
 
Note All Jews resting in Israel is conditional on how they do act towards God and others.
 
Jer 22:15 Do you think that being a king [merely] means [self-indulgent] vying [with Solomon] {and} striving to excel in cedar [palaces]? Did not your father [Josiah], as he ate and drank, do justice and righteousness [being upright and in right standing with God]? Then it was well with him.16 He judged {and} defended the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well. Was not [all] this [what it means] to know {and} recognize Me? says the Lord.
   
Jer 25:4 Although the Lord persistently sent you all the prophets, His servants, yet you have not listened and obeyed or [even] inclined your ear to hear.
Jer 25:5
[The prophets came on My behalf] saying, Turn again now every one from his evil way and wrongdoing; [that you may not forfeit the right to] dwell in the land that the Lord gave to you and to your fathers from of old {and} forevermore.
Jer 25:6 Do not go after other gods to serve and worship them, and do not provoke Me to anger with the works of your hands. Then I will do you no harm.
    
 Then we have the people who blame all religious people for all the problems of the world and who tend to lie and say they themselves are without sins.  
 
 
SOMEONE ELSE  HAD SAID “The Neo-Zionist Order: WHO RULES YOUR RULERS ?  God himself? or The Neo-Zionist Order.   ( Firstly note these are just one man’s opinions, they are not substantiated  facts.)  
 
 
 

 “Most Americans would agree that there is something desperately wrong with the political and judicial system in the United States, but as many unsuspecting Americans point fingers at each other (Republicans and Democrats) what they don’t realize is that this suits the Zionist purpose. This interview is with the man who exposed the rulers who dictate policies. They hand down these policies to our so called leaders to advance the Neo- Zionist plot for total control over world affairs. Only a clear picture of what’s going on behind the faτade of this so called ‘war on terror’ can one truly understand that this is a ‘war of terror’ designed for killing people and destroying property to stir up conflict to advance their agenda.  

 

 

 

        

wrongful accusations

 
Some one also had asked as to how one should deal with  wrongful accusations by others.. mind you there are various responses to this by others.. sue them for slander the lawyers would say..  And yes many people make false accusation for all kinds of reasons too, Revenge, bitterness, Jealousy, envy.. The people who support the false accusations generally  tend to be immoral persons themselves too..but being wrongfully accused by others is also often mentioned, detailed  also in the Bible.. Just for a start Moses was wrongfully accused, even Joseph, Job, King David, Daniel, Jesus Christ Himself   as well,  and their common reaction was to stay humble, keep  the faith, tell the truth still to others,  and waited for God to fully justify them, to expose the whole truth. 
 


The devil gladly supplies you and the others with the lies, distortions, innuendoes, untruths, and even to many people ,even about you, even to your spouse, children, neighbors, friends, acquaintances and  to others.. Funny how many people love to listen to gossip, lies, slanders and believe them more readily than the truth too. 
 
(Phil 2:11 KJV)  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 
(James 1:26 KJV)  If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.
 
(James 3:5 KJV)  Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!6   And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 7  For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
 
(1 Pet 3:10 KJV)  For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
 
(1 John 3:18 KJV)  My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 

  
 
 (Psa 25:9 KJV)  The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
 
(Exo 15:20 KJV)  And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
 
(Exo 15:21 KJV)  And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.
 
(Num 12:1 KJV)  And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2  And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3  (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4  And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5  And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6  And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7  My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8  With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10  And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11  And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12  Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13  And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. 14  And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again. 15  And Miriam was shut out from the camp seven days: and the people journeyed not till Miriam was brought in again.
 
(Psa 147:6 KJV)  The LORD lifteth up the meek: he casteth the wicked down to the ground.
 
(Isa 61:1 KJV)  The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
 
(Rev 12:10 KJV)  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
 
(Rev 12:11 KJV)  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
 
(Psa 25:15 KJV)  Mine eyes are ever toward the LORD; for he shall pluck my feet out of the net.
 
I shared it before on my sites that when I post a truth , preach it, the devil does not wait long to get one of his own to falsely try to deny it..  Being bashed, lied about, being bullied is common reactions by the immoral persons.. and I have covered how to deal with bullies, abusers elswhere.. shout it from the housetops and call the Police..
 
 
 “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.” (Jeremiah 29:11)
 
I can honestly say that the worse things that had happened to me in the last 50 years too had turned out to be the best things next for me.. and we know that all things work for the good for those who love God..
 
Rom 8:28 KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
 
(Rom 8:29 KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
 
(Rom 8:30 KJV) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
 
(Rom 8:31 KJV) What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
 
(Rom 8:32 KJV) He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
 
(Rom 8:33 KJV) Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
 
(Rom 8:34 KJV) Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
 
(Rom 8:35 KJV) Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
 
(Rom 8:36 KJV) As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
 
(Rom 8:37 KJV) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
 
(Rom 8:38 KJV) For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
 
(Rom 8:39 KJV) Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
Bad things happen to all of us because of  the curse of our grandparents, Adam and even, as promised they would next.. and bad things are helped along by the devil and his followers too.. if we are doing things our own way, according to our own gospel, our own understanding we cannot even resist the devil..
 
(Mark 7:29 KJV) the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
 
(Rev 12:12 KJV) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
 
I can say for certainly that the many bad things that happened  in my life reduced when I became a bond slave, servant of Jesus Christ, I dispel many of them away now too in the name and the authority of of Jesus .. and those bad things still that happen happened for God’s glory still next.. and for my good..
 
I rather rightfully believe in Jesus and follow him alone .. and not in the devil and his followers who certainly. visibly have no real love or peace in their own lives.
 

 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/wrongful-accusations/

 
 Or what do you do when you are asked to do at work, or at home something you believe is wrong to do.. it is very ill advisable.. excluding commonly acceptably things like cheating, lying, stealing..
 
Well there are at least 4 reactions, and many more?
 
1: You can do it anyway and let the other person learn the hard way next from his or  her mistake, from their bad order..
2: You can quit your job, run away from home, or get a divorce?
3: You can try to  tell the person why you believe it  is wrong in a nice way, you can ask them are they aware why it might be wrong for instance it can cause? and likely get into a big fight? and next likely even have them get mad at you..
4: You can just refuse to do it and be ready to pay the negative consequences..
 
the choice often is yours, but still making the right choice counts..
 
Daniel in the Bible, and others were asked to do something they felt was wrong.. (Acts 5:29 KJV)  Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.  
  
It is also natural for many persons to be fearful of something they have not experienced  themselves too.. we all have to be cautious  anywhere, and we do always discern the truth,  but now throwing out the baby with the dirty wash water,  or bashing a revival falsely cause we even do have our own false hidden agenda, are   generally a very wrong thing to do.