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Revelations 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

 

In one city I had been to every church I went to was great, but in another city every church I went to was bad and why was that now?

 

As I have traveled from city to city, provinces to province, to the US as well I also have visited so called Christian, Evangelical visited churches and one thing that has clearly amazed me, disrobed me as well was  how not only are too often the leadership of the church pretentious inadequate, including the pastors, elders, deacons, but also the fact that in each city the churches tend to very very similar, all mostly very bad.. I have often said that these churches have been unable to significantly change the surrounding characters of persons because they rather have been conformed to them, they now have watered down falsely their membership standards, mainly have conformed to the local ruling evil spirits.

 

 

(Romans 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

 

 

Revelation 3:17  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. :22  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

 

 

(Eph 3:10 KJV)  To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

 

(Eph 6:12 KJV)  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

(Col 1:16 KJV)  For by him ( Jesus Christ) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

 

(Col 2:15 KJV)  And having spoiled principalities and powers, he ( Jesus Christ)  made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

 

(Titus 3:1 KJV)   to be ready to every good work,

 

 I have to say I have been amazed when I encounter various individuals who profess to be pastors, Christians, Priests, Catholics, evangelicals, Orthodox and who claim they are now good persons who are certainly going to heaven next. I know for a fact they are deceived. I do not know what standards they are following but it was, is certainly different from those set for by Jesus and the Apostles in the Bible. These clearly still bad people are still liars, thieves, con artists, cheats, unconsidered of others, unkind, unloving, selfish self centered.. they have nothing in common with God and his followers rather so why do they falsely think they are Christians or they are even going next to heaven still?

    

 

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You shall know the truth

 

(John 8:31 KJV)  Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32    And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

 

Now as obvious or unobvious to some persons most people are living in deceptions, falsehoods, lies, distortions because they are still too easily deceived

  

(Mat 13:19 KJV)  When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

 

(Mat 13:38 KJV)  The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

 

(1 John 2:13 KJV)  I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

 

(1 John 2:14 KJV)  I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

 

(Prov 12:15 KJV)  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

 

(Prov 15:5 KJV)  A fool despiseth his father’s instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.

 

(Prov 17:10 KJV)  A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

 

(Prov 18:2 KJV)  A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.

 

(Prov 19:1 KJV)  Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips, and is a fool.

 

(Prov 23:9 KJV)  Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

 

(Prov 26:11 KJV)  As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

 

(Prov 27:22 KJV)  Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

 

(Prov 24:6 KJV)  For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellors there is safety.

 

(Deu 32:28 KJV)  For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

 

(Job 5:13 KJV)  He taketh the wise in their own craftiness: and the counsel of the froward is carried headlong.

 

(Job 12:13 KJV)  With him is wisdom and strength, he hath counsel and understanding.

 

(Psa 1:1 KJV)  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

 

(Psa 16:7 KJV)  I will bless the LORD, who hath given me counsel: my reins also instruct me in the night seasons.

 

(Psa 33:10 KJV)  The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect.

 

(Psa 33:11 KJV)  The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.

 

(Psa 64:2 KJV)  Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity:

 

(Psa 73:24 KJV)  Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.

 

(Psa 106:13 KJV)  They soon forgat his works; they waited not for his counsel:

 

(Psa 107:11 KJV)  Because they rebelled against the words of God, and contemned the counsel of the most High:

 

(Prov 1:25 KJV)  But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

 

(Prov 1:30 KJV)  They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.

 

(Prov 8:14 KJV)  Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

(Prov 12:15 KJV)  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

 

(Prov 15:22 KJV)  Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are established.

 

(Prov 19:20 KJV)  Hear counsel, and receive instruction, that thou mayest be wise in thy latter end.

 

(Prov 19:21 KJV)  There are many devices in a man’s heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.

 

(Prov 20:5 KJV)  Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out.

 

(Prov 20:18 KJV)  Every purpose is established by counsel: and with good advice make war.

 

(Prov 21:30 KJV)  There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.

 

(Prov 24:6 KJV)  For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellors there is safety.

 

(Isa 11:2 KJV)  And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

 

(Isa 19:3 KJV)  And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

 

(Isa 30:1 KJV)  Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

 

(Isa 45:21 KJV)  Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

 

(Isa 46:10 KJV)  Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

 

(Jer 23:22 KJV)  But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

 

(Jer 32:19 KJV)  Great in counsel, and mighty in work: for thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men: to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings:

 

(Hosea 4:12 KJV)  My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of whoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God.

 

(Micah 4:12 KJV)  But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.

 

(Eph 1:11 KJV)  In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

 

(Rev 3:18 KJV)  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/10/03/there-are-still-negative-personal-consequences-for-following-after-vanities/

 

 

It was interesting I was in a really great Church, the spirit of God was moving there mightily and yet God told me to to talk to or to fellowship with the pastors, later I had found out that they were in adultery, stealing, slandering, etc..

  

Sadly for too many persons a church is merely a social club a place to get noticed, to meet one’s friends merely.. not really a place to to fellowship with God

  

Don’t quit 5 minutes before the miracles happen

 

I actually was often in a church were this happened, the first church service would start and finish 2 1.3 hours later and the crowd would disperse, but next for those who did not want to go there was another church service lasting for hours into the wee hours of the morning , miracles, spectacular and  praising the Lord too..

 

you see you cannot tell God when and how to do it.. many people are  missing out on the blessings cause they rushed out..

 

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/let-us-go-on/

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God’s revealed will to all of us

(Eph 4:11 KJV)  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12  For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14  That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16  From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
17  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18  Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19  Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20  But ye have not so learned Christ;
21  If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22  That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23  And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24  And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25  Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26  Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27  Neither give place to the devil.
28  Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29  Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31  Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
5:1  Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
2  And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
3  But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4  Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5  For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14  Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15  See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16  Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17  Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
18  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
19  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
20  Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
             

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the false Smears

(Jer 32:27 KJV)  Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Lip service Christianity is still not acceptable. Ongoing continual personal repentance  for sins  is also not optional..  

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/betrayers-of-jesus-christ/  and http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/now-about-the-abusers-bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

Acts 20:18 And when they arrived he said to them: You yourselves are well acquainted with my manner of living among you from the first day that I set foot in [the province of] Asia, and how I continued afterward, 19 Serving the Lord with all humility in tears and in the midst of adversity (affliction and trials) which befell me, due to the plots of the Jews [against me]; 20 How I did not shrink from telling you anything that was for your benefit and teaching you in public meetings and from house to house, 21 But constantly {and} earnestly I bore testimony both to Jews and Greeks, urging them to turn in repentance [that is due] to God and to have faith in our Lord Jesus Christ [that is due Him].

(Mat 5:22 KJV)  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.  (Heb 12:9 KJV)  Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.

The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions Christianity – Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters

One of the strongest things I have objected to in my life is the false Pentecostal bashers-Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too.

Slandering, lying about, calling a specific person false names, personal attacks,  in a church or even on any public forum is still unacceptable now even if you are a Christian, a Plymouth Brethren one now too.

Who are you to falsely judge another man’s servant now..     (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(Mat 7:14 KJV)  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Our actions must be founded on what we know to be true from God’s Word, and that what is being directed us  personally to each one of us by the Holy Spirit, and to do that we all still do need to continually in reality live a Holy Sprit filled life. it starts by daily reading the Bible, having a Bible devotional, and sadly even most evangelical  pastors it seems they do not do that too.

” Of all the empty arguments offered by Cessationists, it is hard to find anything more bizarre than their claim of the existence of “false tongues. The False Tongues Boogeyman is the latest concoction in a long string of discreditied arguments the Cessationists have offered over the years.  Cessationists start from the false premise that genuine speaking in tongues ceased upon the death of the last apostle.  I have soundly disproven this starting point in my article, “Tongues Throughout Church History,”   I show from ancient Christian documents that speaking in tongues and other gifts of the Spirit continued on for several centuries after the last apostle died, and have frequently re-appeared in times of great revival up to this day.

Never-the-less, in spite of the clear evidence of Scripture and church history, Cessationists persist in arguing that speaking in tongues has ceased.  Needing to offer some explanation for the widespread occurrances of speaking in tongues today, they claim such instances are manifestations of “false tongues.”  Their argument is that when Christians today speak in tongues, they are doing so not under the influence of the Holy Spirit, but by the empowerment of Satan.
Speaking in tongues occurs exclusively in Christian churches.  They involve only Born-again Christians.  The content of the messages glorify Jesus Christ.  These occur only as Christians praise, worship, and pray to the Heavenly Father.  It is a considerable stretch to believe that such manifestations could be anything but genuinely inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Are we really to believe that 537 million Christians experience continual demonic manifestations of false tongues, when false tongues were so rare that the Bible did not even address the issue?”  ” http://brothermel.com/theboogeymancalledfalsetongues.aspx>>The doctrine of salvation the greek word Sozo is described in Scripture in three different tenses: past, present and future. We have been saved; we are being saved, and we will be saved.Sozo means saved, healed, delivered as wellsome people cannot get past the saved part even..“Fundamentalists worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah, they worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).

Similarly, Liberals worship their own reasonings, the products of their own minds, their own denial of Scripture. In doing so, like the Fundamentalists and the Pharisees, they worship their own interpretations, the products of their own minds, therefore they, too, worship the creature instead of the Creator.

One problem that both Fundamentalists and Liberals have in common is that they both would rather have someone else spoon feed them rather than learn for themselves. Liberals are eager to hear what Tillich, Bultmann, Kierkegaard or even their own pastor than to dig into the truth of the faith for themselves. Likewise, Fundamentalists would rather hear what C. I. Schofield, Hal Lindsey, Walter Martin or even their own pastor than to dig into the truth of the faith for themselves. Both sides are equally intellectually lazy. Both sides are equally wrong.

Jesus said, “Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks” (John 4:23). It is time for both Fundamentalists and Liberals to stop worshipping the products of their own mind and “worship the Father in spirit and truth,” only this will please the Father above.

Fundamentalists need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and ofJohn 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit[1] and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH.” http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12941.htm

I too rightfully DO OPENLY  oppose  the false Smears on all, any Christians, NOTE the Pentecostal Christians included for that is a right we all have now.  Anyone choosing even being ignorant and showing a false hatred towards the truth, others damages one self the most still.. We, not one of us, we do not have to accept any of these personal, verbal, physical abuses quietly. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest still too. God himself does not accept them at all, not even quietly. We all, Christians now included, do have a right of freedom of speech, the right to be heard, legal and human rights now too, even the right of freedom of religion.

It is very clear that the much too many false Critics of the Pentecostals will try to grasp at any straws to falsely bash the Pentecostal and still try to justify their own immoral acts..

THE WAY MANY FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICAL AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS  TRY TO MAKE FUN AT OTHER CHRISTIANS IS SICKENING, A VERY POOR THEOLOGY AND IS SADLY NOW ALSO TYPICAL OF THE MUCH TOO OFTEN FALSE BASHING OF THE PENTECOSTALS  TOO! It clearly makes me think that Satan himself is behind most of it still too.  and as to what the Bible says is mostly still only how you here do  interpret it.. not the Holy Spirit.  The people who also tell us to use only the Bible often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.

(Eph 4:18 KJV)  Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

ON TOP OF THAT I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW SO MANY OF THESE SAME PERSONS PERSONS ALSO FALSELY RISE TO DEFEND SMOKING, WINE, ALCOHOL AS WELL AND WORK FULLY TO  DENY IT IS SINFUL.. “Spurgeon was once asked when he would quit smoking cigars. He replied, “When it becomes a problem.” He was then asked, “When will it become a problem?” To which he replied, “When I smoke two at a time.” AND look at all the false justifications for Spurgeon’s sin.. and do see also my many posts on   alcoholism the unacceptable sin

Even because Evangelical Fundamentalism, dispensationalists,  too often also replaces the worship of God , the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ   with the sole worship of the Bible, bypassing the works of the Holy Spirit it seems, though most Fundamentalists will deny that. Liberalism, too, replaces the worship of God, and of the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ   with the worship of something else. In the case of Liberalism, however, the worship of God was replaced by the worship of mere human reason , and both groups are not that far apart, for they are are in error.

Fundamentalists worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private re-interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah, they worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).

Fundamentalists  and Liberals too need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and of John 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit  and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH.   http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12941.htm ,  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/hard-to-tell-the-difference/

Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and even evangelical pastors, elders, deacons too for  they all  seem to do the same bad things too.. adultery, alcoholism, gossip, slander, divorce.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/alcohol/

It is still the rebellious persons, the rebels who tend to leave out the offices of apostles, prophets in the church as well..

They are so sensitive to others being supposedly false, cause they  clearly are false, now they need to take the beam out of theirr own eye first..  Someone is really  wrong here and I don’t think it is that difficult  to determine who that is  for they  do twist Bible verses, slander, falsely quickly bash  others to suit their  own views..

Clearly Judas was an Apostle, better look at the definition of an Apostle, an Apostle is not an unchristian person.. and he was next replaced in the book of acts by another Apostle. The fact that Jesus knew that Judas would betray him does not mean he was not anointed.. but first better look at the meaning of the word anointed now.. one who evidences the Holy spirit.. with signs and wonders Acts 10:38. If you do not let the Holy spirit lead you as to what a verse actually means you are part of the Blind leading the blind now, forget trying to say the scripture cannot be wrong, rather you are wrong.. “You throw the term free will around as if it does not need to be defined. ” and yet you clearly in desperation rebuttal quoted back a verse that has nothing to do with one’s free will.

Why is it so many people try too limit the power of God, and they work so hard to try to tell us what God can and cannot do today.. for sure,  definitely it is not only cause they are spiritually immature, have a hidden agenda, are promoting themselves,  or they are unoriginal parrots who repeat what others have said , but it is often still mainly because Satan for sure is behind all this too. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/discern-it/

Evangelical fundamental parrots often need to quote someone else cause they do not know the Holy spIrit well enough to let him lead them, even the truth about healing. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF. http://pbulow.tripod.com/healing.html

AT TIMES the Internet blogosphere lives up to its billing as the new frontier of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, religious and political discourse. But too often the blogs mainly still turn into an open sewer of rumors, lies, libels and adolescent sins. Too  many persons  are bashing other Christians,  Pentecostals  with clearly a hidden agenda, of jealousy, and it is still the wrong thing to do so now too.. their criticisms  are not even done in love or humility as  Cleary as required by the Bible now  too.

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too.

I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/
http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/trackback/

There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any of the  the Pentecostal Christians for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/slow-to-learn/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/the-ongoing-earthly-spiritual-battle-is-an-undeniable-fact/” While inconsistent dispensationalists can and do believe in the necessity of repentance, the logical conclusions of classic dispensationalism yield the kind of devastating errors which sees faith as nothing more than a change of mind with regards to the facts of the gospel.  “  http://covenantgrace.blogspot.com/2008/02/some-of-puritans-believed-that.htmlBUT INSTEAD NAME CALLINGS. BASHING, is what too  many of the dispensational fundamentals, Brethren, Baptists   mainly do.. and they are known for as well.
When any person fabricate also stories about someone’s faith, especially it seems these days against the Christians, NOT JUST THE Evangelical BUT THE Pentecostal ones, to denigrate them personally, politically, morally, unacceptably plus  that’s an attack on people of all faiths.GOD HIMSELF DOES NOT ACCEPT ANY OF THESE  VERBAL, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, NEITHER DO I

THEY TOO  FIRSTLY SHOULD TAKE THE BEAMS OUT OF THEIR  OWN EYE FIRST.

(Heb 10:24 KJV)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

An Illustration of Abundant Life in the New Testament.
(All scriptures NKJV unless otherwise noted.)LOVE ONE ANOTHER

John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another

John 15:12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.

John 15:17 These things I command you, that you love one another.

Romans 13:8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

1 Thessalonians 4:9 But concerning brotherly love you have no need that I should write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another;

1 Peter 1:22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart,

1 John 3:11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another,

1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

1 John 4:7, 11, 12 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God…Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.

2 John 5 And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another.

BE KINDLY AFFECTIONATE ONE TO ANOTHER

Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another;

PREFERRING ONE ANOTHER

Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another

DON‘T JUDGE ONE ANOTHER

Romans 14:13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.

RECEIVE ONE ANOTHER

Romans 15:7 Therefore receive one another, just as Christ also received us, to the glory of God

GREET ONE ANOTHER WITH A HOLY KISS

Romans 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. The churches of Christ greet you.

2 Corinthians 13:12 Greet one another with a holy kiss

1 Corinthians 16:20 All the brethren greet you. Greet one another with a holy kiss.

1 Peter 5:14 Greet one another with a kiss of love. Peace to you all who are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

BE KIND ONE TO ANOTHER

Ephesians 4:32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave you.

FORGIVING, FORBEARING ONE ANOTHER

Ephesians 4:2 with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love, endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace

Colossians 3:13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.

ADMONISH, EXHORT, TEACH AND PROVOKE ONE ANOTHER

Romans 15:14 Now I myself am confident concerning you, my brethren, that you also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.

Colossians 3:16-17 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Hebrews 3:13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

COMFORT ONE ANOTHER, EDIFY ONE ANOTHER

1 Thessalonians 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words

1 Thessalonians 5:11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.

SERVE ONE ANOTHER,

Galatians 5:13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

BE SUBMISSIVE ONE TO ANOTHER

Ephesians 5:21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.

1 Peter 5:5 5 Likewise you younger people, submit yourselves to your elders. Yes, all of you be submissive to one another, and be clothed with humility, for “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.””

(Luke 18:9 KJV) And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

(2 Chr 7:14 KJV) If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

(Mark 13:12 KJV) Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. (Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves:

Matthew 18: 15 If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

Using Bible as a false cover-up for one’s  immoral acts on the net ..   Bullying and calling a person names as well such as a fool, crazy, or what ever is still an unacceptable immoral act according both to Canada’s courts and the Human Rights commissions now as well and is rightfully fully prosecutable ands I do not hesitate to report it as such too.

And some of the unacceptable responding bullies, bashers who try their false personal attacks on me now cause I had stepped on their toes, firstly they do not even know me well enough to make any kind of personal judgmental bashings  upon me never mind doing it now even in public too, and slander is what it is..

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

Amazing how I tend to post the same response to the same related subjects on various sites, even those  I tend to visit , one site accepts the message and me,  but clearly the other one hates me and the message.. the response to me shows a lot about the responder.

You can bully me, bash me, play on words too, even call me a liar, but that will not deny the truth of what I have experienced  the last 3 decades on the net and in many in churches now as well.

All Comments in response containing inflammatory material, lies, slanders, offensive language, personal attacks are not permitted and will be deleted on all of my sites…. Despite our best hints some persons do too often turn from the Christian ideal and cheapen the quality of discourse even for everyone else. Unfortunately, it is simply impossible to write a comprehensive set of rules forbidding every type of UnChristian behavior. No love so don’t write it.. The fact that this rule may not still forbid a certain type of post does not automatically make an uncivil post appropriate, nor does it imply that the administrators will next still approve of disrespectful behavior. Every persons has a responsibility to participate in a respectful manner, and to help foster an atmosphere of thoughtful discussion. In this regard, we strongly advise all persons ito have a lttle common decency. Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual on this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden. They will be deleted

Kinds of replies E-mails replies  that are not POSTED

Abusive e-mails.  Senders are blocked.
Jokes, chain letters, spam, etc., are not forwarded.
I ALSO  will not participate in UESLESS  e-mail debates

AND  quite often I have said that the truth does not  need to be debated. It should be clear to most of us, the bad guys do not like my  pages still.. it shows them in their true light..  the bad guys, bullies, bashers or what ever?

Now we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be heard now as well.. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well, and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some bad people falsely still DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the realy bad persons especially as even I know this for sure as they falsely refuse the whole to be shared even as as to who they are firstly. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/now-about-the-abusers-bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

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A pastor of the House of prayer church was gloating that the local Pentecostal church had  last night removed their pastor, and House of prayer pastor next was  boasting how good he was and how lucky his congregation now was to have him while the same House of prayer church  pastor was   meanwhile being even accused of stealng funds, the slander of others as well. (Prov 27:2 KJV)  Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

 The general manager of a Pawn shop had asked me to inspect the used computers he had taken in. In the process many times I had noticed that the manager and his brother were stealing from the store, taking unpaid items home for themselves. Next I noticed the same thing being done by the store clerks. When I reported what I saw the store clerks doing the manager in rage immediately fired two of the sales clerks. But he did not fire himself or his brother. Double standard. Sadly I have too often seen this myself firsthand also in evangelical churches where the  pastors and their family members were abusing the donations while they hypocritically were preaching  to others “you shall not steal”   All of  their own personal repentance is still in order!

A professing Christian couple were church hopping, weekly  travelling from church to church looking for that great perfect church that would add a new dimensions to their lives. Unfortunately the couple would not admit they that their own unrepentant sins were the cause of their own Misery, and they next divorced each other, each falsely blaming the other spouse as the cause of their personal unhappiness.

 

(Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. 

 

>People usually accuse others of what they are guilty themselves!  

>Dear thenonconformer you are the one who is the accuser of the brethren, not me?

 

My getting personal again.. you like to  give it to others but can’t take a rebuke yourself ehh.. Please do Stop telling any others what to do .. live it yourself.. what you are speak louder than any of your words. Many people try to falsey bash others, try to change others cause they know they cannot even change themselves now.

 

Personal attacks made falsely next when you cannot deny the facts, the negative truths. So what else is new  the Ostriches here too they  cannot take the huge beam out of their own eyes, they are a poor example of Christianity, do not practice what they preach to others, they still do what they condemn in others . No wonder they oppose other persons right of free speech, the truth. Some things never change. The bad guys included. They love the false praise of men over  being praised by god too. But all men have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Cursed be he that puts his trust in mere man, mere flesh. It is viable that too much of the supposedly  Christian posts here are done in the flesh still and not in the spirit of God. What Happened to their own practice real Christian love, humility, meekness on their parts? Too many preachers, pastors like to preach it to others but do not live it themselves. Repent.

 

(1 Cor 4:21 KJV)  What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

 

(2 Cor 10:1 KJV)  Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:

 

(Gal 5:23 KJV)  Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

 

(Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

 

(Eph 4:2 KJV)  With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

 

(Col 3:12 KJV)  Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

 

(1 Tim 6:11 KJV)  But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

 

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

 

(Titus 3:2 KJV)  To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

 

(James 1:21 KJV)  Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

 

(James 3:13 KJV)  Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

 

(1 Pet 3:15 KJV)  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

 

“Hey you self righteous supposedly Christian guys and gals just look at yourself. your lack of love towards others, even your supposed enemies is more reflective of who you still are. Get a real life in Jesus. the Evangelical Christian ostriches who deny their sins are still going to Hell and they like to bash others but cannot face or see the truth about themselves. The vipers like you, the Pharisees condemned Jesus also for telling the truth about them too and so do you still even here. When you condemn the others you visibly even condemn yourself as well here.”

 

Look who is hypocritically, wrongfully  accusing me now   firstly  TIM himself.. you got so personal with someone you do not know, never met as well.. and such a hypocrite now too you are.. yes too many evangelicals, pastors included like you TIM are not known for playing nice, accepting the truth easily, they like to play dirty, bash, bully, abuse others, make unrelated personal smears, attacks.. showing more clearly to all what they still really are like.. undeniable bad guys. but they that is normal for this is how the bad persons ..they often treated the prophets, apostles as well and still do.

 

Never the less  the Holy Spirit  he will still also reprove the world of sin, judgment, righteousness.. and not be an Ostrich to their sins, wrong doings

    

I also do not think much of control freaks, bullies too  and do   see also my many posts on how to deal with control freaks.. abusers.. for example

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/ or

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/

http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2008/12/coping-with-bad.html

 

One is not a Christian for too long before one encounters the dispensationalist topics of Prophecy- Tribulation, the anti Christ, such as http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com    the same  people who seem to be more fascinated with the future over living in the present.. Now one thing for certainly I know as well many of these overboard persons tend to have very little love for others, other Christians in reality, and I can only concluded that they really are not led by the Holy Sprit, are not open to the fruit and gifts of the Holy Spirit as well.. (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

   

(1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
10:1  Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3  And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5  But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6  Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7  Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8  Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9  Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10  Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11  Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
13  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14  Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
15  I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
16  The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17  For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
18  Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19  What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20  But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
22  Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

23  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
24  Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth.

 

(John 8:12 KJV)  Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

 

(John 12:35 KJV)  Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. 36  While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

 

(John 12:46 KJV)  I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

 

(Rom 2:18 KJV)   And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; 19  And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, 20  An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. 21  Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 22  Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 23  Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

 

(1 Th 5:4 KJV)  But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

 

(1 John 1:3KJV)   That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4  And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

  

(1 John 2:8KJV)   Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10  He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

 

(2 Cor 3:2 KJV)  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

 

TOO MANY PEOPLE FALSELY THINK THEY ARE HIDING THEIR UNREPENTANT SINS, THEY GOT AWAY WITH THEM. GOD STILL SEES THEM. SO DOES THE DEVIL AND THE WORLD NOW AS WELL.

 

(Mat 22:32 KJV)  God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

 

(Rom 14:17 KJV)  For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

 

(1 Cor 4:20 KJV)  For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

 

(1 Cor 14:33 KJV)  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

 

(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 

 

I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counseling divorce,  gossiping, slandering, lying,  and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there  was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship  with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counseling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.

 

Alliance Churches,  Calgary Christian center, Centre Street Evangelical Missionary Church,  United Church   , Full Gospel Churches,  Baptist Churches, Evangelical Free, Victory Christian Fellowship,   First Assembly (Pentecostal), Salvation Army,   Don Ross Ministries and the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship; to name a few.  And you should let another man praise you and not yourself.. I moved to Calgary at the age of 35 in 1980 and I had been a Christian  for 20 years before that and for the next 15 years I in contrast could not find one decent honest Christian Pastor or Church in Calgary, in my witness they were all bunch of racists, social clubs, adulterers, liars, slanderers, gossipers, thieves, rich minded persons who despised the poor people etc.., Calgary was the third  most unspiritual place I have been to in Canada

But eventually  one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

(Micah 3:6 KJV)  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

The most crooked pastors I had encountered in Canada were those in Alberta too… Here also you can start with ex Calgary Christian center, the Calgary First Alliance church, the Calgary Salvation Army.  I also remember also hearing about that great Conservative myth on promised full accountability, governmental transparency, a better form of governing, and the Harper- Conservative government lies go on and on, fooling only the Conservatives as to who they really are still, liars..

 I had good reasons supposedly for not  Pastoring  once, one of which was there now supposedly  were plenty of other good Pastors, much better Pastors than me  around..  and both arguments were lies as God himself next showed me  firsthand when I interviewed about 45 evangelical pastors.. even about their marital counseling practices… which is almost none! This is also really surprising when  about 70 percent of all people even in the  churches  tend to have major marital problems sooner or later.. Pretender, liar and that is so typical of evangelical pastors in Canada, elders, and  pastors of the false  Christian Missionary Alliance church now too. I wrote about this false church before too. No wonder most of the evangelical pastors as well do  commit adultery, or steal,  commit tax evasions, gossip, slander, abuse others   and falsely counsel divorce now too. In reality 70 percent of all of the the pastors are still really bad, still doing a real bad job.. for  firstly they tend not to use the Bible at all in their own  personal counseling  practices but rather they  tend to do use an  immoral, humanistic, psychological approach, or they simple say get divorced and  wrongfully too.  Their actual daily usage of the Bible, not books really can show you how good or bad pastors they still are,  and never mind what useless Bible college or commentary also that they graduated from still.

Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the  Pastors,  even though this may be an honest expectation, for  our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him.

Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man, or women,  and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders  and you certainly will next not be disappointed.

Because of my poor health I have had to retire from a physically active Ministry and next many people could not understand how I could be by myself alone, for such long periods of time, and for me it is very easy for I have Jesus to go directly to talk with, I do prefer his company above all others rightfully too. Learn to talk to Him directly about your concerns, not firstly the Pastors!!

(Luke 9:36 KJV)  And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.

(John 8:9 KJV)  And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst

Secondly the majority of these pastors they do not provide at all any real counseling help to their own flock in need even  in their own churches, and especially not related to  marital,  employment problems also even in Evangelical, Pentecostal churches. This  approach of their is  not really pastoring.. this is stealing money from the sheep!

 

Sadly most pastors  seem to want to only to preach, to  talk big and to be praised for it, to be  recognized, and admired by the others, for they tend to have a false, big ego that they want filled, but they still wrongfully not want to do also the real work, the dirty work at the sheep’s level.. Yes these same pastoral hypocrites also do  falsely tend to lie, slander others , gossip and also to delegate blame on one of the spouses even  in a martial problem situation, even with  invalid still reasons, basically for them not  to personally get involved.   The pastor would say something like  the husband or the wife  was at fault.. so the pastor is still talking only about the negative symptoms of a real marital problem,  and what is he real or false solution rather.. pass the buck wrongfully still to the others? Unacceptable and  I would rightfully not give any of my money at all to this type of Pastor or  his Church!

 

Pastoral marriage counseling it is also still mandatory for all Pastors, all of them too, it is mandatory still that they do also help each and every sheep in their flock, and do home visits as well..   and these two also are not optional.. but sadly majority of Pastors  they really still do not have love for the sheep.. and doing the dirtier jobs they wrongfully run away for it.. and God himself told me that this was all was immorally acts on the part of both of these pastors.. I never run away from any hard counseling.. for  I got God to help me.. Do thus  tell the pastor that up to 70 percent of the people have marriage problems, it is always the biggest pastoral need too..  and if he does not do this work than he is really not a real pastor..  just another hireling, or a wolf in sheep clothing..

 

You do clearly also have my permission to send these remarks  to them as well! I have already personally fired about 25 pastors in my life time.. and I do not hesitate to publicly expose them, rebuke them rightfully  remove them from office still.. any of the bad ones..

 

(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.  (Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.  (Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;  (1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.  (2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.  (Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;  (Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.  (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.  Better to be rebuked by me than God next directly, for God then will not be so forgiving..

 

(Psa 18:39 KJV)  For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me 40  Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me. 41  They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not. 42  Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets.

 

(Psa 18:46 KJV)  The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted. 47 It is God that avengeth me, and subdueth the people under me. 48  He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/

The trouble with anyone lying is that soon one will likely end up believing in one’s  own lies and one tends to  live out the lies next, to act upon their false delusions. This applies to people who lie to the courts, to politicians who lie to the citizens as well.. to Pastors who lie to their congregations.. Now I have personally seen this happen many times .. For example a pastor was personally asked to repent of his own  immorality. His own family asked him if the charges were true. The pastor replied you cannot believe anything the persons says he is crazy.. Soon the pastor’s family started to worry about this supposedly crazy person. To keep up the pretense the pastor even bought next a bullet proof car for protection for himself. This increased the stress upon his own family.. They lived out the pastor’s lie.. This was a punishment for the lies now as well. This same truth applies to ANYONE, Minister, lawyers, spouses  who lie to us or the courts  too. In the end the pastor still  lost his church anyway, because he next was still exposed for his wrong doings, cause you cannot lie to everyone.. some people saw the truth.. and did something good about it too.. they let the Pastor go.

 

 (Isa 29:15 KJV)  Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? (Psa 138:6 KJV)  Though the LORD be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off.

 

(Jer 23:16 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

 

God called me to be a Pastor, to minister full time to his people, but I did not accept it , in fact not next for about 20 years, and I had many false excuses.. excuses like  I was praying for the other people, pastors, even one specifically who next turned out to be an adulterer and he had children by another person who was not his wife.. and God next dealt with me through a series of negative dramatic events like the loss of my job, health, family, even still  I had another excuse too I was too bad of a sinner to be a pastor to which God replied and said if a gay pastor can pastor so can you.. that finally broke all my excuses too I agreed to be a Pastor for God.. God then had said to me enough is enough I am tired of you living a self indulged life serving vanities, and now next you will usefully work for me.. and testify of me even before “Kings and Queens”.. which I did for the next 20 years too.

 

Now there are still also at least six major things wrong with the North Americanized Gospel being preached falsely today even worldwide,

 

1 It is mostly man centered religion and not rather God centered, it still tends to exalts man, self, pride..not rather solely Jesus Christ ….

 

(2 Tim 3:1 KJV) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

 

and not rather (1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

 

Furthermore it is undeniably clear that too many pastors, elders  are even  wrongfully pursing secular wealth, the owning of bigger and better homes, working at insuring adequate pensions moneys for themselves while neglecting to minister to the physical, spiritual needs of God’s people.

 

Did you know that Marriage counseling is the main and biggest ministry  today, it is the big need in churches today and yet still most pastor do even wrongfully refuse to do it, they rather even too many of them do wrongfully counsel divorce..

 

On the one hand many preachers preach that we all must live daily by faith, by faith in God to supply all of our needs but on the other hand they clearly beg for money, donations, even by wayoff mailing lists too.. they look unto man to supply their needs and not God in reality.. to me this is both hypocritical and contradictory and unacceptable.. to me these people are still the “Hirelings” that Jesus spoke about, even the “money changes” he kicked out of the temple, those people who instead of freely giving, put copyrights on their material and sell it to others.. for sadly too many even professing Christians have still even now made their the acquisition, pursuit of money, the false love for all of the things that money can buy, as their false idol, and one of their false goal in life, and as a result they now personally do not really have love for God, love for his people or love for others… and this is still really unacceptable to God.

 

“God demands also of the Pastor that he be holy, and he should be. There are more people walking in the counsel of the pastors than any other class of men in the world. When they are sad, they are glad to counsel with their pastor, and when they are happy and enjoying life, they delight in telling their pastor. So his counsel is constantly being sought and his advice taken. God pity the pastor who though does not feel the responsibility.”

 

The Old Testament book of Malachi was written to specifically to Pastors stealing God’s money.. and going along with divorce wrongfully too.  I have been a treasurer, church secretary and a wittiness and I have too often seen pastors and elders stealing the donated money for wrong personal use.. and often.. it is only a really big shock the first time..

 

In reality the majority of Pastors today are ungodly, and so out of curiosity I interviewed many, many of them personally to see how they arrived at that poor spiritual state.. a state of cheating, lying, stealing, slandering, gossiping, committing sexual immoralities too..  I have actually directly interviewed about 75 evangelical pastors, and I helped to fire about 12 or more of them too.. and most Pastors almost all did not pray daily or read their bible daily, or even use the Bible in counseling.. sad.. they are hireling, pretenders, imposters. Some of the most crooked Pastor I met were clearly not called for the ministry and I specifically asked them how they went into the ministry,, A really bad pastor that I loved used to preach out of books and not the Bible, he used to always ask for a monetary raise every time it seems one person was saved or added to the church, like many pastors I met he also liked to rig the supposedly fair church elections for the persons of his choice to the positions too. Trying to be nice , hoping to change him I asked him two personal questions. Pastor did God specifically call you into the Ministry? and is their such thing as power to live a Christian life? He replied no to both questions.. so how can he teach, lead others? he could not.. he was drastically removed. The reason he because a Pastor was that he wanted his Masters of Business administration but he could not afford to go to college so he went to Bible collage, and running the church was the same as running a business he said to me..Boy he needed to be pastored himself but his unrepentant sins stopped this. And he lost his church eventually, the church he had founded for he was exposed for not being called to the minsitry.. not equipped by it. Over 40 percent of pastors are fired more than once it seems..

 

Now as far as personally Giving.. a clearly separate subject.. We are to give of ourselves personally daily to God… and then all we have is his to use as he wills.. furthermore the Book of acts says we are in the local church to also firstly give to the poor Christians, and not only to the pastors, building funds, missionaries.. and how many churches now actually do this these days give to the poor.. it is the government who does it rather.. it supplies the social aid.

 

I am also not against voluntary tithing to the Lord Jesus Christ, or voluntary giving to the Lord Jesus Christ, AND to the poor persons. I am against trying to earn, buy your way into heaven, and also giving on the too often false man defined mandates that the still mostly false pastors themselves do define it.. by the too many mostly false pastors?

 

A personal desire to be a Pastor is not enough.. for you have to be specially be first called directly by God for the Ministry.. My own father agreed with me today on this and he said that was the biggest reason we have so many bad pastors, they were not called by God for the ministry

 

By the way the term Pastor is only mentioned once in the whole New Testament and why? cause there are many other offices God calls us to as well.. like the office of a Missionary, Apostle, prophet, evangelist, healing, elder, deacon, minister, etc., It is my rightful view view that Churches are not at all run by any Pastor, but RUN only by Jesus Christ and the elders (always plural), and note this they are all shepherds.. all of the elders i.e. apostles, prophets, teachers are all the shepherds of the Church)Pastor as plural too is mentioned only once in the NEW TESTAMENT and yet a whole false doctrine of their sole importance today is made, and that reference Pastor included also apostles, prophets, evangelist, and I do not care to believe in the still mostly lies of men but only what the Bible teaches itself.

 

(2 Cor 9:10 KJV) Now he that MINISTEReth seed to the sower both MINISTER bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness

 

(Heb 13:17 KJV) Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

 

Thus the Pastors need to obey as well the existing Apostles and the existing prophets today..

The New Testament word MINISTER rightfully used to mean to be a humble shepherd feeding God’s flock but today it sadly has visible connotations of an air of superiority, of abusing others, of being worshipped, admired, being served upon, of self exaltations and self service even. Too many Pastors seem also do not like to be called SHEPHERDS, THEY LIKE TO USE THE SECULAR WORD LEADERS.. even a captain of the ship.. and this makes me think of “Mutiny on the Bounty”. Pastos, elders are al servants who are to minister to all of God’s people.

(Rev 21:4 KJV)  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 

(Eccl 8:13 KJV)  But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.

 

(Psa 5:4 KJV)  For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.

 

(Deu 24:16 KJV)  The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

 

(Psa 33:17 KJV)  An horse is a vain thing for safety: neither shall he deliver any by his great strength.

 

(Exo 20:23 KJV)  Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.

 

(Lev 26:1 KJV)  Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

 

(2 Ki 17:38 KJV)  And the covenant that I have made with you ye shall not forget; neither shall ye fear other gods.

 

(Isa 43:10 KJV)  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

 

(Lev 11:44 KJV)  For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy:

 

(Isa 32:6 KJV)  For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practice hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail. 7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.

 

All, absolutely all persons who deviate from the words of God found in the Bible are deviates, perverts, liars, that includes any Church elders, pastors, members, adherents. Those who lie do have a hidden agenda, it includes the false exaltation of self and the false oppression of others.

 

One of Satan’s agendas is to dominate, oppress all human beings and do note  this is also the agenda of his followers, of all those persons whole live in the flesh and not by the spirit of God. Jesus has come to set us free even free, from slavery to any others too,  from sin and it’s consequences, and not rather to put us again into bondage, even more false bondage.. so beware of men, even of preachers, watch out always too.. and watch out especially for those who quote other men’s words, who put forth their own words,  and still do claim they are God’s words ..

(Mat 20:26 KJV) But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your MINISTER;

(Mat 20:28 KJV) Even as the Son of man came not to be MINISTERed unto, but to MINISTER, and to give his life a ransom for many.

(Mat 25:44 KJV) Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not MINISTER unto thee?

(Rom 15:16 KJV) That I should be the MINISTER of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, MINISTERing the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

(Rom 15:25 KJV) But now I go unto Jerusalem to MINISTER unto the saints.

(Rom 15:27 KJV) It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to MINISTER unto them in carnal things.

(Eph 3:7 KJV) Whereof I was made a MINISTER, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power

Once again the words man, men, MINISTER to me are generic terms, includes male and females, both male and females can be shepherds in the house of God?

(1 Pet 5:2 KJV) Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

(Jer 48:10 KJV) Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.

(Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Note the sole New Testament reference to the term Pastor is still only a plural one.. and also clearly along with with the presently existing other gifted offices now too.Truly I am rightfully disappointed with those Pastors who to elevate their own self importance mislead others, misquote the Bible by even now making the term “pastor” a singular term only.. a fact not supported in the New Testament Bible. There are many shepherds of the one local church, flock, many pastors, not just the one. These false pastors would like us also all to believe that they are the individual owners of the sheep as well and we have to obey them in all things. But Personal Submission is always mutual and voluntary.

(Eph 4:11 KJV) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

(1 Cor 16:16 KJV) That ye submit yourselves unto such, and to every one that helpeth with us, and laboureth.

and now if God had called, hired you then next he directly will pay you.. does not even your secular employer pay you after you have been hired.. but if you have not been hired by a firm then you cannot expect them to pay you,..

1 Tim 6:10 KJV) For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows

(John 2:15 KJV) And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;

(John 2:16 KJV) And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.

(Mat 10:8 KJV) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

(Mat 10:9 KJV) Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

and there’s also a verse that says that you shouldn’t muzzle an ox while it’s threshing.

Too sadly I have actually heard this verse quoted by mamy persons justifying stealing from their employers..

The issues THAT I have dealt with here TOO are important, issues that I personally have been concerned with the last 35 years to they are issues that need to be dealt with still.

 

In my own life time I have seen many supposedly sincere, even hard working pastors, most pastors next fired from their jobs next, and often unexpectedly. Why? They firstly sought their own agenda, preached their own message, not God’s. They were rebellious to God.

 

(Prov 25:14 KJV)  Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.

 

(Psa 104:3 KJV)  Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: 4  Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

 

(Eccl 11:5 KJV)  As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.

 

When Pharaoh refused to listen to Moses to let his people go and worship him God sent plagues upon pharaoh.. when people of Israel disobeyed God sent negative plagues upon them.. God does the same thing today as well.. believe it or not too, even upon individuals, cities, states, provinces, nations too.

 

(Jer 5:5 KJV)  I will get me unto the great men, and will speak unto them; for they have known the way of the LORD, and the judgment of their God: but these have altogether broken the yoke, and burst the bonds.  6  Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities: every one that goeth out thence shall be torn in pieces: because their transgressions are many, and their backslidings are increased. 7  How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses. 8  They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour’s wife. 9  Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this? 10  Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD’S. 11  For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD. 12  They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine: 13  And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.

 

(Jer 7:2 KJV)  Stand in the gate of the Lord’s house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD. 3  Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place. 4  Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. 5  For if ye thoroughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye thoroughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour; 6  If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt: 7  Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever. 8  Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. 9  Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; 10  And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? 11  Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD. 12  But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel. 13  And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the LORD, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not; 14  Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh. 15  And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim. 16  Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.

 

(Jer 7:20 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.

 

(Jer 7:23 KJV)  But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.24   But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.

 

(Jer 7:28 KJV)  But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.

 

(Isa 30:10 KJV)  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

 

(Isa 65:5 KJV)  Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

 

(Jer 21:13 KJV)  Behold, I am against thee, O inhabitant of the valley, and rock of the plain, saith the LORD; which say, Who shall come down against us? or who shall enter into our habitations?

 

(Ezek 11:3 KJV)  Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh.

 

(Amos 4:1 KJV)  Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink. 2  The Lord GOD hath sworn by his holiness, that, lo, the days shall come upon you, that he will take you away with hooks, and your posterity with fishhooks.

 

(Amos 9:10 KJV)  All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

 

(Mat 23:16 KJV)  Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

 

(Rev 2:2 KJV)  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

 

(Rev 3:9 KJV)  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

 

(Lev 19:12 KJV)  And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

 

(Deu 18:19 KJV)  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

 

(Deu 18:20 KJV)  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

 

(2 Chr 7:16 KJV)  For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

 

(Isa 42:8 KJV)  I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

 

(Isa 43:7 KJV)  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

 

(Isa 48:11 KJV)  For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

 

(Isa 52:6 KJV)  Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

 

(Jer 7:10 KJV)  And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.12  But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.

 

(Jer 7:14 KJV)  Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.

 

(Jer 7:30 KJV)  For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.

 

(Jer 12:16 KJV)  And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, The LORD liveth; as they taught my people to swear by Baal; then shall they be built in the midst of my people.

 

(Jer 14:14 KJV)  Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

 

(Jer 14:15 KJV)  Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

 

(Jer 16:21 KJV)  Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

 

(Jer 23:25 KJV)  I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

 

(Jer 23:27 KJV)  Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.

 

(Jer 25:29 KJV)  For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.

 

(Jer 27:15 KJV)  For I have not sent them, saith the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.

 

(Jer 29:9 KJV)  For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.

 

(Jer 29:23 KJV)  Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

 

(Jer 32:34 KJV)  But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.

 

(Jer 34:15 KJV)  And ye were now turned, and had done right in my sight, in proclaiming liberty every man to his neighbour; and ye had made a covenant before me in the house which is called by my name:16  But ye turned and polluted my name, and caused every man his servant, and every man his handmaid, whom he had set at liberty at their pleasure, to return, and brought them into subjection, to be unto you for servants and for handmaids.

 

(Zec 5:4 KJV)  I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

 

(Mat 24:5 KJV)  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

 

(John 15:16 KJV)  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

 

(Acts 15:17 KJV)  That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

 It seems in reality that at least 70 percent of pastors, including evangelicals ones, even in Alberta too, in North America commit adultery and/or counsel divorce, cause sadly they are clearly too often still sex maniacs. Note unrepentant sins are often exposed openly in the Bible now too, shouted from the housetops

You have to be called directly, personally by God to be a pastor,. and God will next give you the love for the job, the people, he will God equip you for all of the tasks.. still sadly many Pastors still are not God called, but self chosen..

A pastor’s commitment next to his people includes first keeping his commitment to serve God firstly, not man or self.. A pastor admitted to me he did not have a full commitment to God.. I was shocked at his still corruption

It was a great shock to me when I had switched over to the Pentecostal faith from the Brethren, Baptist faith to see just as many bad and, crooked pastors there now too.. 

Pastors too, no matter to what or to whom you attribute the sin in your life, you are still a sinner that is going to hell unless you overcome that sin by Jesus Christ

The BASIC issue about too many bad pastors even these days now is not just about the Pentecostal PASTORS but the subject OF TOO MANY bad pastors we seem to have in most denominations still too and STILL why?

Even because many of these BAD people, bad pastors EVEN THE too often false critics are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too. They need to grow up spiritually as well. Are any of you, Pastors, elders, now claiming to be a better teacher, guide than the Holy Spirit himself? so where is your evidence of being spirit filled, evidence of real love too?

Where is the power of God that we see in the Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And what are we doing that is now different in the Church from that I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible?

Follow the Anointing Luke 4:14 “And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” Over the years many have questioned the lack of power in their Baptism of the Holy Spirit as opposed to what they read in Scripture and the New Testament and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Sadly too often the pastors tend to be legalists sadly.. control freaks, abusive persons due to a false pride, and their religion rather too often a mere cultural movement, it seems..

I had to call the police against a crooked AOG pastor who was abusing me, stealing money, stealing from his flock in my witness too. I am known for and I like to deal with the whole truth too..

Pastors too often still do falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also too often do still preach. Pastors have to firstly be a good example of what they preach to others as well..

So the other real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word , Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit.. and the answer is yes… all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.

“The Christian church needs a whole lot less showmanship and a lot more humble leaders who work patiently and persistently in their local congregations for the growth of God’s people in faith, in love and in hope. “

Mercy is given by God to those who repent for a start.,, not those who claim they have like Tim the false accuser of the good brethren still too

while their own actions show the reality they still really have not really repented now personaly..

Anyone saw the proof that even Todd Bentley had repented? The topic  crooked pastors… a too common undeniable reality theses days in Canada too

Still all Pastors need to take the beam out of their own eyes before preaching to others still too.. I rightfully would rather see a sermon personally practiced over one merely falsely preached to others. I was shocked that not only adultery is a common pastor problem still but so is alcohol.. and what else? lying, slander, abuse of others..

(2 Tim 3:1 KJV)  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

Would you still  believe it that one person next still wrote back to me and said he could not understand what I  had written that was so bad even about him, of what his sins were, their false  denial of their personal sins is so deep, they have been abusing others, sinning so long that it has become natural, acceptable to them.

 

(Mat 18:6 KJV)  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

 

(Mat 18:7 KJV)  Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

 

(Mat 18:8 KJV)  Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

 

(Mat 18:9 KJV)  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

 

(Mat 18:10 KJV)  Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/shocked/

 

 

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What if I told you that most professing Christians

 

What if I told you that most professing Christians still cannot hear God’s voice and they  often livingly still do claim that God speaks to them , leads them,  how unbelievable now is that too? So what is the reason for this now too? http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html  

(Deu 12:8 KJV)  Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

 

(Judg 17:6 KJV)  In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

 

(1 Ki 15:5 KJV)  Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

 

(1 Ki 15:11 KJV)  And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

 

(2 Ki 22:2 KJV)  And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in all the way of David his father, and turned not aside to the right hand or to the left.

 

(2 Chr 14:2 KJV)  And Asa did that which was good and right in the eyes of the LORD his God:

 

(2 Chr 20:32 KJV)  And he walked in the way of Asa his father, and departed not from it, doing that which was right in the sight of the LORD.

 

(Prov 12:15 KJV)  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

 

(Prov 21:2 KJV)  Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.

 

(Acts 4:19 KJV)  But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.

 

ONE OF  THE SADDEST, MOST TRAGIC THINGS ABOUT CHRISTIANS  AND THE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TODAY IS HOW THEY MOSTLY ALL  HAVE BEEN SO EVIDENTIALLY SECULARIZED.

 

And this is evident by the too often unbiblical church approach, including the secular church organization, management   structure,  and the secularized  theology now as well even where man has falsely become  the centre of the Bible and the universe still and not God himself, The Holy Ghost has been replaced by the pastors and  their interpretation of of  Bible too.  But even the Bible itself now is not the Word of God.

 

It is understandable that so many people read the Bible and they still cannot understand it cause rather according to the Bible itself, the Bible itself  is  not the Word Of God   for  the Voice of the Lord. the Word of God, the Holy Spirit  himself is living and active, he penetrates even to the dividing of soul and spirit.., he judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12

 

 

My sheep hear My voice,   and I know them,  and they follow Me.  John 10:27 and only The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26.

 

IN FACT the many Bible scriptures themselves  that refer to the Word of God  are not at all referring to the Bible itself now too , but rather they refer to   voice of God or the voice the Lord , the voice of the living spirit of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit himself. So you can READ OR memorize the entire Bible, quoting chapter and verse, AS MANY HAVE, and it will not  only gain you nothing with God but it very likely also means you will not even know God sadly TOO.  There is a huge pitfall in Christianity thinking  that sates that the Bible alone  is the Word of God, and thinking all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer to the Bible; when the references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God speaking to you.  So If you don’t listen to the true Voice of God, you will never grow; you will never know what it really is to repent; you will never receive his changing, purifying grace; you will not find God; and you ALSO STILL will not have any reward in the Kingdom of God or Christ.  

Like many in the early church, even if you can’t read, you can be changed and purified to enter the Kingdom of Heaven as a son of God forever – by listening to God’s voice and obeying it. God’s spirit, who desires to speak and teach you outside of the Bible.  He desires to teach you individual, personal things about yourself, and how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to reading the Bible, you will only get crumbs beneath the table.

 

Worshipping the Bible alone is an act of idoltary.

 

Do see also http://pbulow.tripod.com/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/why-you-should-believe-in-the-bible-jesus-christ-and-the-holy-spirit-too/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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