Avoid such people.

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.  2 Timothy 3:1-7

 Self-love: “Inordinate regard for self to the neglect of others and indifference to their needs. In narcissism the attention is centered on the body, especially sexual self-satisfaction.”  They have a need to be kept amused, entertained like little children now too..

“Pathological narcissism is characterized by at least five of the following characteristics:

A need for constant attention and admiration

A sense of entitlement

Interpersonally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends)

Lack of empathy (is unwilling or unable to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others)

Envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

An arrogant and haughty behavior or attitude

A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

A belief that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people”

Most Marriage today now tend to  tend be narcissistic with the  spouses  still mostly   seeking constant admiration or success to fill their  voids. For some reasons like the job stress, alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, lack of spiritual maturity, physical disability, lack of parenting skills, self-centered immaturity, etc. the narcissistic family revolves around getting the parents’ desires and needs met rather than also meeting the needs of the children. The Biblical pattern of parents meeting their children’s needs is reversed here..  Jesus  Christ  himself  does not  fit into their family still..

“Narcissists are proud and they are sinful—as we all are. But they aren’t just proud and just sinful. Pathological narcissism  is a personality style that is deeply rooted in the structure of the entire personality from the first few years of life. It too often still cannot be overcome by simply confessing one’s sins but not  committing to change. For many Growing out of narcissism is a long, slow, difficult, hardship filled life painful  process that may take years. As “Narcissistic personalities typically seek treatment only when their sense of specialness or invincibility is threatened through a major life crisis…. “”

“To love like Christ, there is no room for self-love. Well, one cannot embrace oneself  and have one’s  arms outstretched  to embrace her neighbor at the same time. Love for self exists, only because God loves His creation. Thus, we care for what He has created. To go beyond this, one becomes a Narcissus, who loves his own reflection when opportunity for greater, more enduring Love,  stands by weeping.  Philosophies and mindsets, antithetical to the mind of Christ, are not only innate to the flesh but are satanic expressions of the world system.  These narcissistic mindsets or worldviews are doors through which the demonic operates, influencing the minds of men thus directing the rhythm of life. Only demonic people still are mainly  self centered  Recall the ancient myth of Narcissus. The lovely boy catches sight of his countenance in a pool and falls enamored of himself. But he does not then leave the pool to boast of himself wherever he can, as foolish and proud as that might be. Instead, he loses all genuine connection between himself and other living creatures by perpetually admiring his reflection. Narcissism does not expand the soul, but rather contracts it …”

 1 Corinthians 5
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Ephesians 5
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2 Corinthians 6
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

And what is your false excuse in still dealing with the bad persons? There is none!

1 Corinthians 3:21 “Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;”

2 Corinthians 4:5 “For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.”

John 7:18 “He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.”

“For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.” 1 Corinthians 2:2

Galatians 6:14 “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.”

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12

do see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/jesus-has-set-me-free/

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Jesus has set me free..

(Job 28:28 KJV) And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

(2 Chr 19:7 KJV) Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts

(1 Cor 9:27 KJV) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Beware also always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc., I do not have to accept any of the negative consequences, or bad acts of other persons and their sins too. That includes their verbal abuse, physical abuse, slander, lies, emotional abuses, their false silent treatment too now. etc.. I can even tell them that now too.

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over

Is 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have love, pity, {and} mercy for him, and to our God, for He will multiply to him His abundant pardon. 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

Is 56:10 watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge; they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, they love to slumber.

I still am often amazed how many control freaks I do encounter, and yes often they can also be found in schools, homes, work, church, governments, elsewhere too.. these are people who often claim they are giving you some helpful hints, tips, advice but are trying to manipulate you to do something they rather want. “there’s no one answer to abuse…..here is one that helps you till God deals with the other person.. he often takes them far away from you, and some even die early.. or they do next suffer really bad…  control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with.  “Those who demand the most often give the least.” Ask them to send you something or do something for you. By asking something of them, you will be indicating that you are not intimidated or diminished by their behavior patterns. In order to not feel degraded, humiliated and have your sense of self and self worth assaulted, you need to avoid being bulldozed by a controlling lover, boss or friend. When you are caught up in a truly destructive/controlling attachment, the best response may still also still be to expose them and to call the police and also walk out.  We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser OR THESE pretentious persons.. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons seems to be most effective way that works for everyone’s benefit in dealing with the bad acts of others still. While too too do   believe in all things work for the best for those who love God, but I rebuke all evil persons rightfully still.. I do not accept rightfully their abuse of me or the others. Here is my reality.. Control freaks are demonic persons, led by the devil, who try to abuse us and to  bring us into bondage, and they tend to get a lot more crazy, get a lot worse..  Jesus has set me free.. from even being hooked to sins, and also from the bondage, the false oppression, enslavement by others.. sadly many other people want to be still enslaved but not me, I have really experienced freedom, I know what it is like, and I want to maintain my full freedom by God’s permission, help, now too. When I think about being set free I often do think about two images, visions that God has given me typically.. an all black, dark picture that turns to a normal scenery… and a picture of a large snake coming at me the size of a train which next disappears instead..

Many people rightfully practice tough  love.. Being nice or kind, friendly  to a really bad person  is still also a complete waste of time, for they will not change their negative behaviors on their own, they see   no reasons to do so now still too. Sad but true. We cannot never control a bad person, a drug addict or an alcoholic, but we can learn all about it and learn firstly to control our own behavior, appropriate responses –including how we should behave in the relationship with the  sick and suffering and /or possibly manipulative addict or alcoholic, abuser..

Establish Boundaries, Set Limits, Set detachment.  One example of setting a boundary is telling a close friend, even a loved one  that you prefer they not be around you if they are smoking,  drunk or high. Notice that it is specific demand, and you have to sit down and communicate this type of request explicitly with that someone. Setting a boundary like this is difficult because there is this tendency to hurt other’s feelings. But that is part of what is keeping you ineffective– your caring more about this person’s feelings than your own personal well being. Setting boundaries is about putting your own personal well being and even that of others first, and letting that be a guiding example of how to live. You know you are setting effective boundaries when you are taking back control of your own life firstly and starting to regain your own sanity–instead of being all wrapped up in the problems of a struggling smoker, rebel, drug addict or alcoholic.

 

“Here are some more  things that you can do in order to practice detachment with the struggling pervert in your life: -Don’t do things that they should be doing themselves. -Don’t bend over backwards to rescue them or save them from natural consequences. -Don’t cover up for their mistakes or embarrassing situations. -Don’t rescue them from crisis or financial situations. -Don’t try to fix them. -Let go of any guilt you may have about them

Detachment is not about denying your emotions. If someone close to you dies, for example, you will probably feel sad. You can’t choose this feeling. It simply is. But we do have the power to affect the intensity of this feeling, by focusing on the positive aspects of the situation. We can also change our thinking in an attempt to eradicate irrational beliefs that might be contributing to our emotional turmoil.

The goal is not to go without emotions, the goal is to achieve some level of emotional stability. We are detaching from the negative, irrational thoughts that stir up our emotions–like the guilt we might have if we think someone’s perversity, addiction is our fault.

Detachment is difficult and takes practice.”

  

Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own negative ways, for they are too set in them now too.

ALCOHOL and drugs now are still a sin, A VICE AND NOT A NECESSITY . and a lot of criminal activity linked to drug addiction, alcohol too.

 

Some persons rightfully maintain that prison,  job termination are still the main and best solution to this problem of alcoholics, drug abuses too .. for my being kind to the UNREPENTANT wicked, bad, no good persons is really now still a complete waste of time, energy, effort for without real negative consequences neither they or the others tempted to follow them they will not tend to readily positive change, for their own good or the good of others.

(Isa 26:10 KJV)  Let favour be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.11 LORD, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them.

 

(Hab 2:5 KJV)  Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

I have really also learned  from personally observing many persons the last 35 years that there tends to be no such thing as a little bit pregnant,  that to open the barn door a little bit,  left unrestrained, undisciplined, unsupervised, means  the barn door next  will eventually swing wide open.. and when any person tends to personally allow, start a little acceptable vice, abuse, eventually the other even bigger vices, abuses  do now also tend to grow, develop there as well..  and yes while some deny it they too all thus next can be easily discovered, even though the guilty persons too often  will deny this.. and this includes even now next the vices of pre-marital sex, sodomy, polygamy, alcoholism, gambling,  adultery,  drunkenness, bingeing, gluttony, gouging, self-destructive behaviors, selfishness, indifference, apathy, jealousy, anger, hate,   envy,   rudeness, irritability or grudges , lust, cussing, cheating , addiction, shoplifting, stealing, tax evasions and even the others abusive behaviors of bullying, racism, discrimination, pride, lying.  Many people lie to others and falsely deny they have a personal problem. You see one of the major problem about lying is one next tends to believe in one’s own lie as being the truth when they   still are not the truth, and one does do becomes personally partially often next even insane for lying.  …  And most people still do even lie every 3 to 5 minutes they undeniably say? But some person lie a lot more than others, a lot more.. even to themselves , others and to the courts especially. it is not just all the men now that are supposedly the bad guys. in reality men and women are still equal sinners according to God still too and both lie, sin. One of the major problem about lying is one next tends to believe in one’s own lie as being the truth when they still are not… Most of the liars  still are wrongfully not willing to take any personal responsibility, accountability for their own faults, their own shortcomings now next  too and project wrongfully their faults, problems even on the others

 

The real, root problem often is not the alcohol, or the drugs themselves, alone but rather one honestly dealing with themselves and their own real shortcomings  still too.The basic secret of all successful substance abuse termination programs are accepting personal responsibility, personal accountability,  the individual first personally has to admit he or a she  has done wrong, also admits he or she now does needs help,  admit that they is willing to take the help.. all three aspects are required still too. An appropriate real self examination on their own part is always needed firstly here  for it is also their  own real bad personal acts,  and related guilt that next contributes, contributed to his or  her own poor self image, fears, additional  problems..  especially more when things did not go the way he or she had planned beforehand . 

 

Do face it the person who takes bad drugs, alcohol does take it willingly and he or she should also suffer real negative consequences for his poor personal choice here on earth still too, especially when his or her choice harms anyone else.

  

The Public exposure and prosecutions of the guilty persons starting rightfully at the top, but goes down to the bottom as well  serves everyone’s best interest and is continually mandatory for everyone’s best and good welfare.

 

(Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. …. but their supposed repentance does not automatically exclude their negative consequences still

  

(Prov 22:1 KJV)  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.

 

Can a Person change themselves? Is there hope for anyone? Only if they follow God’s rules!! Accepting Jesus! and we all should look in hope at the calendar.. 2008 ad.. 2008 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ… so undeniably off an event it even changed the calendar history too.

(Mat 4:17 KJV)  From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Biblical repentance is admitting one sins to God, stopping and consciously turning away from them, turning back toward God,  and personally accepting Jesus Christ finished work, forgiveness for them. True repentance is confession, contrition,   change; replacement and it involves the whole person, Our Body, Soul, Spirit. It is also  a personal, ongoing event. http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/repent-for-the-kingdom-of-heaven-is-at-hand/

see also http://alabaxterblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/the-answer-to-abuse/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/dealing-effectively-with-lifes-problems/

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For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie

We are lied to all the time in real life.. about many things too.

No Sin is not cheap, there is a big price next  to pay for it.. 

The apostle Paul declared in Galatians 6:7, “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.” There has always been consequence to sin from the moment Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the garden (Genesis 2,3).

No Man should ever  think that he can escape the eye of God even if some time has passed..

God has the sin of adultery listed as one of His special 10 commandments – “Thou shall not commit adultery.”

And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord Your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me … You shall not commit adultery …” (Exodus 20:1-14)

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All sex intercourse outside of marriage, which is defined as an act solely  between a man and a women, including polygamy is immoral because it is stealing that which does not belong to you.. and expect the devil and his followers to falsely disagree here too. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/

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The mouth of an immoral woman is a deep pit; he who is abhorred of the Lord will fall there.” (Proverbs 22:14)  

“My son, give me your heart, and let your eyes observe My ways. For a harlot is a deep pit, and a seductress is a narrow well. She also lies in wait as for a victim, and increases the unfaithful among men.” (Proverbs 23:26)  

“Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways, do not stray into her paths; for she has cast down many wounded, and all who were slain by her were strong men. Her house is the way to hell, descending to the chambers of death.” (Proverbs 7:25)  

“For the commandment is a lamp, and the law is light; reproofs of instruction are the way of life, to keep you from the evil woman, from the flattering tongue of a seductress, do not lust after her beauty in your heart, nor let her allure you with her eyelids. For by means of a harlot a man is reduced to a crust of bread; and an adulteress will prey upon his precious life. Can a man take fire to his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? Can one walk on hot coals, and his feet not be seared? So is he who goes in to his neighbor’s wife; whoever touches her shall not be innocent … Whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding; he who does so destroys his own soul.” (Proverbs 6:23, 32)

 

“Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but the fornicators and adulterers God will judge.” (Hebrews 13:4)  

“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9)  

“Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19)

 

“Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.” (James 1:13)

 

“Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul …” (1 Peter 2:11)  

“Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body … Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.” (1 Corinthians 6:13)

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Luke 12:5

 

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

Revelation 22: 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

King David lusted after Bathsheba. He had many wives and concubines, but in the season when kings go off to war, he neglected his duties. Lounging around the palace, he was tempted by the sight of Bathsheba and fell. He impregnated her, and tried to conceal the adultery by bringing her husband back from the wars to sleep with her. Uriah would not lie with his wife because he would not live in pleasure while his comrades in battle were in the field, suffering and in danger.  David arranged for Uriah’s death in battle. Nathan the prophet confronted David, and David’s reaction was not to attack the prophet, but to repent. He repented sincerely and profoundly; his psalms of repentance are still often said today. But God still punished him. David’s infant son, conceived in adultery, died, despite David’s praying in sackcloth and ashes. Even after he forgives us, God still sends us temporal punishment to insure we are not so easily tempted to sin the next time.. .  even to show us that our sins have consequences, for ourselves and for others.

 

 David had sinned, and he falsely even thought that he had  build an effective cover-up plan. He only overlooked one very large detail: you can’t hide your heart from God.

 

 7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! Thus says the LORD God of Israel: “I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more! 9 Why have you despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in His sight? You have killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword; you have taken his wife to be your wife, and have killed him with the sword of the people of Ammon. 10 Now therefore, the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised Me, and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife.’   2 Samuel 12:7-10 NKJV 

 

These were the consequences of David’s sin:

The sword would not depart from David’s family. God would raise up adversity against David from within his family.

God would allow a neighbor (David’s son, Absalom) to have sex with David’s wives in public, since he had taken Uriah’s wife Bathsheba secretly (2 Samuel 12:11-12).

The child that Bathsheba bore by David would die (2 Samuel 12:14).

 

How Did These General Predictions Work Out?

  1.-David’s son by Bathsheba dies. II Samuel 12:15-18A

 2.-Incest and rape within the family. II Samuel 13:1-19

  3.-Premeditated murder within the family. II Samuel 13:20-29

 4.-David’s son flees. II Samuel 13:30-39

  5.-Arsen within the kings household. II Samuel 14:28-33

  6.-Disloyalty and insurrection of David’s throne by his own son. II Samuel 15:1-13

 7.-David needs to flee his own home. II Samuel 15:14

 8.-David himself is cursed and attacked. II Samuel 16:5-13

 9.-Immorality in public by David’s son. II Samuel 16:20-22

 10.-Battle of King David’s forces against his son Absalom’s forces. II Samuel 18:1-8

Day 14- 11.-David’s son is killed. II Samuel 18:9-15

The punishment outlined by Nathan (II Samuel 12:7-15) was immediate at least in the lifetime of David. The sad part of David’s sin was that he would forever be marked as the man who took Uriah’s wife. When the account of Abijam’s reign in Judah is given in the book of 1 Kings it says: “Because David did what was right in the sight of the LORD, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the case of Uriah the Hittite” (I Kings 15:5). The consequence of sin remained.If these consequences seem overwhelming we need only ne reminded of the many  modern day  consequences.

David’s incontinence had consequences far beyond his lifetime. His children inherited his character flaws. Amnon raped his half-sister, and for this was killed by his brother Absalom. Because of David’s weakness of character, he could not discipline Absalom, and Absalom rebelled. Solomon shared his father’s lack of sexual restraint and introduced idolatry into Israel by his foreign wives. Israel was punished for this idolatry by the division of the kingdom, by the disappearance of the Northern Kingdom, and by the Babylonian Exile. The compilers of the Pentateuch saw the same flaws at work at the beginning of human history, when Adam followed his wife into disobedience rather than obeying the law of the Most High

   Because God is holy, He cannot accept what is evil into His presence and fellowship. Thus, ALL MEN are under one verdict.Sin brings curses! You cannot sin deliberately without reaping the consequences of your actions.he had to live with the curse he had brought upon his family and his nation also by his actions. We do not live in a vacuum – our sins always have an impact on the lives of others.  Exodus 32:33 Romans 5:12  Romans 6:23A

A Psalm of David when Nathan the prophet came to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. ‘Be gracious to me, Elohim, according to Your loving-kindness, according to the multitude of Your tender mercies; blot out my transgressions.
‘Wash me completely from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
‘For I know my transgressions; and my sin is ever before me.
‘Against You, You only, I have sinned, and done evil in Your eyes’ that You might be justified in Your speaking and be clear when You judge.
‘Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.
‘Behold, You desire truth in the inward parts; and in the hidden parts You teach me wisdom.
‘Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
‘Cause me to hear joy and gladness; the bones You have crushed will rejoice.
‘Hide Your face from my sins, and blot out all my iniquities.
‘Create in me a clean heart, Elohim; and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
‘Do not cast me out from Your presence, and do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.
‘Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit.
‘I will teach transgressors Your ways; and sinners will turn back to You.
‘Deliver me from the guilt of shedding blood, Elohim, Elohay of my salvation; my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness.
‘Adonai, open my lips and my mouth shall declare Your praise.
‘For you do not desire sacrifice, or I would give it; You do not delight in burnt offering.
‘The sacrifices of Elohim are a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart, Elohim, You will not despise.
Do good in Your good pleasure to Zion; build the walls of Jerusalem.
‘Then You shall be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole offering; then they shall offer bulls on Your altar.’ ” Psalm 51:1-19

 

Next King David endured with understanding the chastisement he received for the sins he committed with Bathsheba and against her husband Uriah the Hittite; and he repented and turned back to God with his whole heart. Next also  three of his sons continued transgressing the Word of God too , which sadly cost them their lives AND BROUGHT GREAT PAIN TO KING DAVID TOO.

Psalms 19:

7    The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

8    The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9    The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

10    More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

11    Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

12    Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

13    Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

14    Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

 

 DO SEE ALSO http://safeguardyoursoul.com/judaizing-devils/

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About the Messenger

Being a false teacher, apostle, preacher, prophet, elder, pastor, evangelist or what ever, and preaching lies, distortions, false messages is still a personal choice, the main problem here is the false messenger not just the message.. if a man’s heart is not right with God, most of what he or she next does is false, wrong..

(Mat 12:34 KJV) O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

(Mat 12:35 KJV) A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

(Psa 119:165 KJV) Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

1 Cor 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, :5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; :6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

(Luke 6:35 KJV) But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

(Titus 2:2 KJV) That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.

(Prov 9:8 KJV) Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

(Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Tim 3:1 KJV) This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil

Love God, love others and the rest will take care of itself..

(Eccl 7:9 KJV) Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

It is interesting to me as to how so often some people can be so nice to you firstly when you go along with them or they want you to do something for them.. but next if you refuse to do it they can turn very quickly ugly, showing what they are realy like an also will call you names, slander you, insults you, all because of their spoiled behavior, showing for their false rage now, and even suggesting to you to take medications, get medical help.. Now I have often wish they would practised what they preach to others and got the help they firstly needed…

For I too am sure you like me have too often now encountered the novice mass distribution impatient professing Christian poster, who aggressively, and CLEARLY lacking love and maturity, tries to get attention, popularity, recognition, fame, by the spreading of his VERSION of the Gospel message to all at all costs, the ends justifying his means.. sadly the same immature. know it all poster whole will not easily accept rebuke, help, but next also gores into a rage when you do not go along with him or her.. so please do ASAP remind them of all of these verses now also in the Bible.

(Luke 8:15 KJV) But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

(Luke 21:19 KJV) In your patience possess ye your souls.

(Rom 15:4 KJV) For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

(Rom 15:5 KJV) Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:

(2 Cor 6:4 KJV) But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,

(2 Cor 12:12 KJV) Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

(Col 1:11 KJV) Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

(1 Th 1:3 KJV) Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

(2 Th 1:4 KJV) So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:

(1 Tim 6:11 KJV) But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

(2 Tim 3:10 KJV) But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

(Heb 10:36 KJV) For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

(Heb 12:1 KJV) Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

(James 1:3 KJV) Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

(James 1:4 KJV) But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

(James 5:7 KJV) Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

(James 5:10 KJV) Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.

(James 5:11 KJV) Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

(2 Pet 1:6 KJV) And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

(Rev 1:9 KJV) I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

(Rev 3:10 KJV) Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Now God still  expect us all to live the Gospel according to Jesus Christ and not just to preach it to others. I would rather rightfuly see a sermon being practised firstly by the preacher.

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The reality

God wants you to worship him daily at home and also with others

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I consider that the chief dangers which confront the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, and heaven without hell.” [William Booth]

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IT IS TRAGIC  THAT  SOME PERSONS STILL  DID NOT LIVE A FULL CHRISTIAN LIFE AND NEXT DIED..

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The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life generally still turn to a simplified Old Testament version gospel, practice and not a real New Testament based Gospel for they even turn to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Sprit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They practice idolatry instead and now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, prophecy, creeds, denominations, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather most anyhting over solely worshipping now God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. The devil leads them into this. Truly Jesus Christ does not talk to ythem and they never were fully baptized with the holy spirit as many of us here were..
http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

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Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. 25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

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MK 4:22 “For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.

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Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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Rev 21:7  He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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UN CONFESSED AND UN REPENTED SINS ALL ARE STILL NO LAUGHING MATTER EVEN IF YOU DO CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN NOW TOO..

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1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: :2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. :4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

.HEAVEN IS OUR HOME AND NOT THE WORLD

James 4:4 (King James Version) Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

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1 John 2:15-17 (King James Version) 15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

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John 15:19 (King James Version) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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Exodus 20;4,5 (King James Version) 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:  5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; My opinion- (If you love Him and doing what He expects of us you don’t half to worry,because when you turn the word hate to love this verse is not mean for you)

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Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (King James Version) 8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate him.

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CAN ANYONE REALLY IMAGINE JESUS CHRIST BEING A HYPOCRITE, LYING, STEALING, CHEATING, COMMITTING ADULTERY, GETTING DRUNK, TAKING POT, DRUGS.. NEVER!
PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOADS OF SIN TO HIDE LIE WHEN THEY SAY YOU CANNOT JUDGE THEM OR OTHERS http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/didnt-god-instruct-christians-not-to-judge-any-others-or-non-christians/

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Now why was Jesus even so angry with the Pharisees

Why was Jesus now also so angry with the Pharisees

Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Proverbs 28:23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.

In reality firstly Jesus had said He was God alone, Mark 14:60-65

The Pharisees were a group of religious hypocrites that were definitely not only misguided, lost, but still were was very serious about demanding others to keep God’s law, keeping the no longer applicable law of Moses over the laws of Jesus Christ. They were trying to make others slaves, even to their own false demands

When Jesus cleared the temple of the moneychangers and animal-sellers, He showed great emotion and anger (Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; John 2:13-22). Jesus’ emotion was described as “zeal” for God’s house (John 2:17). His anger was pure and completely justified because at its root was concern for God’s holiness and worship.

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel,

“He looked around at them in anger, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts” (Mark 3:5).

In reality, these bad religious leaders were, are destroying, killing others even and keeping many people from their personal salvation.

“The Pharisee was standing, praying these things to himself: God, I thank You that I am not as the rest of men, rapacious, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice on the sabbath; I tithe all things, as many as I get” (Luke 18:11-12). “For I testify to them that they have a zeal to God, but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit to the righteousness of God.” Romans 10:2-3 “Watch and take heed from the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s.” Matthew 16:6 “I say to you, This one went down to his house having been justified, rather than that one. For every one exalting himself will be humbled. And the one humbling himself will be exalted” (Luke 18:14)

This is the personal prayer the Pharisees would not pray and mean it as well. “Heavenly Father, I want to know You as the sole, true and living God. I ask you by the finished work of Jesus Christ to forgive me and cleanse me from all, everything I’ve done wrong. Now please do Change my heart, and give me a Holy Sprit empowered, filled new life. Fill me with the power of Your Holy Spirit. I now forever turn from all of the false gods and submit my life to your Son Jesus Christ as my only Savior and Lord.Thank You, Lord Jesus, for paying the penalty for my sins and giving me a relationship of friendship with God as my Heavenly Father

The Pharisees were blind spiritually , and in fact blind guides as He Jesus was what called them. The still ignornant, self centered already dead persons, the Pharisee who always tried to be the center of attention, loved being praised by others, they the Pharisees believed they were now, smart, enlightended totally righteous, because of their own established doctrines, were fully qualified, empowered to dominate, teach others, they still saw no need for any changes in their lives now, for any or all changes needed to be done in other people’s lives and thus also falsely believed that could not next even any lose their own salvation based on their own false established, superior beliefs. Their gospel was a much too simplified one as well being “Lord, I already do believe in you and therefor you next do owe me my salvation.” Yes even today the Modern day Pharisees tend to be the self-righteous holier-than-thous persons, they often do exist now just like they did then at the time of Jesus. There is no real love of God or for God, or love for any others with them, there is just their false continual hatred of all other’s personal beliefs and their own visible large self pride. The Pharisees falsely still worked hard at it praising themselves, yet they themselves would not enter into the kingdom of heaven nor would they allow others to go in there as well.. They are also the control freaks, the persons who try to dominate all others, and often they used Jesus’s Father’s word in vain and id, do spread evil instead of good. They the Pharisees to make themselves look good and fell good continually put down demands on others, hindered placed heavy burdens by the law beyond reason so they could feel (feel and seem better than others) Jesus was so angry with the Pharisees these clear offspring of vipers? Matthew 3:7-10, clearly demon led persons, Jesus and our anger anger at them was, is expressing Holy Righteous Rage against their idolatry, greed, self aggrandizement , hypocrisy, deceit, refusal to change, self righteousness
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Pharisees “The one saying not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery? The one detesting idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in Law, do you dishonor God through transgression of the Law?” (Romans 2:22-23)

 We all do need to get angry at the traditional heresy, lies, falsehoods and to get them out of our brains, as well as being angry with the the people spreading them too frequently !!!

John 9 41Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

Isa 56:11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

But even the Messianic Jewish Yeshua is not the Christian Jesus, but another false Jesus still

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

See also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/about-those-that-hate-me-and-thee-wrongfully/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/the-ongoing-earthly-spiritual-battle-is-an-undeniable-fact/

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WHICH TYPE OF BAPTISM IS RIGHT FOR PEOPLE? WATER OR SPIRIT?

MK 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized (with the Spirit) will be saved; but he who does not….

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(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally seperates the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

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The gift of discernment

The gift of discernment is a God given spiritual gift that the  Holy Spirit hasprovided a way for us to sort truth from error, a  GIFT that many charismatic Christians like Pentecostals now have been given Solely through their second baptism that allows them to know what the God thinks about the subject in question in reality, it is having the mind of Christ on the subject for discernment and it is one of these nine supernatural gifts (see 1 Cor. 12:8-10) Discernment is a sign of spiritual maturity. In our culture today up is down and right is wrong. God’s true people must be equipped with the supernatural power to tell the difference between the true and the false. If you are realy Holy Spirit filled then you know you have this gift..

1 Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Cor 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1 Cor 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1 Cor 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1 Cor 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

Have any of you ever noticed that a good majority of false Christian PERSONS seem to profess to have the gift of discernment.. EVEN IF THEY MOSTLY DO NOT KNOW OR FOLLOW AFTER GOD STILL.. their false pride tends not to let them admit how dumb they realy are otherwise they may have to do something good about it.

MOST PERSONS IN REALITY STILL DO NOT HAVE SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT, AS OPPOSED TO USING MERELY THEIR OWN REASONING, MINDS, AND IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOLY SPRIT BAPTIZED, IN REALITY THEY STILL ARE NOT HOLY SPIRIT FILL STILL EVEN CAUSE THEY BASICALLY ARE NOT FOLLOWING AFTER GOD, OR HIS WAYS, THEY ARE STILL ARE DISOBEDIENT TO GOD MOSTLY AND HAVE NOT EVEN DIED TO SELF

1 Cor 2:15 (KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things…

Luke 12:57 (NIV) “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?”

Understand that there is a difference between discernment for the judgment that God encourages, and criticism for inappropriate judgments

 

Consider the negative reality of most person’s  lack of discernment: Firstly too much attention or not enough is given to world,  the flesh, the devil; even Christian sect seems to focus too much  on one and ignore the others. Diseases are falsely always assumed to be demons and “rebuked” without discernment or effect. Or Demons are often falsely assumed to be sickness, and irrelevant “treatment” is attempted. Also God’s discipline is attributed to Satan, and made light of. Or Satan’s oppression is accepted falsely as being from God. The obvious promptings of the carnal flesh are falsely assumed to be the spirit, or even of the soul. The sinful  soul’s leading  is confused with the spirit.  With such faulty diagnosis, discernment, many attempt “ministry”, to no effect, and often to great harm. Is this what we realy are like?

 

John 7:24 (NIV) “Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.”

Prov 19:2 (NIV) It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.

1 Cor 4:5 (Phi) “The moral of this is that we should make no hasty or premature judgments.”

(James 1:5 KJV)  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

 

(James 1:6 KJV)  But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

It is also a fact that if you want more revelations from God you have to act upon, obey, fulfill the revelation you already have. Discernment is damaged when anyone compromises to sin. But discernment is still one of the most important gift needed today. For every genuine gift of the Spirit, there is a counterfeit. Discernment will determine what is genuinely of the Spirit and what is deception of the devil.

Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48   For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

(1 Sam 3:19 KJV) And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground.
(Psa 37:31 KJV) The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Ezek 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. :27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. 28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken. 29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully. 30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. 31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.

Now when I have often met a new Church pastor, or a church elder, I may have even heard of him beforehand from others, but I basically did not know who he was or what he was realy like. Subsequently I often saw a clear visions, as clear as watching news on the TV, where God would now show me what sins they were still indulging in.. even sins like adultery. Now that is the gift of spiritual discernment. 1 Cor 2:15 (KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things…

the lack of spiritual discernment have lead to a tragic drifting of the  traditional, Biblical, Pentecostal ship. And a ship that drifts will find itself going nowhere  good..

.. did you get that gift yet?

Luke 11:9 (NIV) “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

Mat 16:3 (KJV) “…’It will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowering.’ O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?”

Isa 11:2-3 (NIV) The Spirit of the Lord will rest upon him–the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord–and he will delight in the fear of the Lord. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears.

John 8:15-16,26 (NIV) “You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father who sent me… I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”

what about you?

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Jesus can give us a fresh start everyday even in all things

Because Jesus was raised from the dead, we’ve been given a brand-new life, and we also do have everything to live for, including a future in heaven (1 Peter 1:3–4)

(Gen 9:3 KJV) Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

(Gen 24:1 KJV) And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the LORD had blessed Abraham in all things.

(Deu 4:7 KJV) For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

(Neh 9:6 KJV) Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

(Psa 8:6 KJV) Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

(Psa 57:2 KJV) I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.

(Prov 28:5 KJV) Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

(Isa 44:24 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

(Mat 19:26 KJV) But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

(Mat 21:22 KJV) And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

(Mat 28:20 KJV) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

(Mark 9:23 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

(Mark 10:27 KJV) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

(John 1:3 KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

(John 3:35 KJV) The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

(John 5:20 KJV) For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

(John 15:15 KJV) Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

(John 16:15 KJV) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

(Rom 8:28 KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

(Rom 8:32 KJV) He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

(Rom 11:36 KJV) For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

(1 Cor 3:21 KJV) Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

(2 Cor 5:17 KJV) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

(2 Cor 7:16 KJV) I rejoice therefore that I have confidence in you in all things.

(2 Cor 9:8 KJV) And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

(Eph 5:20 KJV) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

(Phil 3:21 KJV) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

(Phil 4:13 KJV) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

(Col 1:16 KJV) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

(Col 1:17 KJV) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

(2 Tim 2:7 KJV) Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

(1 Pet 4:8 KJV) And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

(1 Pet 4:11 KJV) If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

(2 Pet 1:3 KJV) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

(1 John 2:20 KJV) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

(1 John 2:27 KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

(3 John 1:2 KJV) Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

(Rev 4:11 KJV) Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

(Rev 21:5 KJV) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

(Rev 21:7 KJV) He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Jesus give us a fresh start everyday even in all things, your past is forgiven, you are equipped, saved, healed, delivered by him now too.. appropriate it right now..

 

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Spiritual reminders

Turn your eyes upon Jesus,

Look full in His wonderful face,

and the things of earth will grow strangely dim,

in the light of His glory and grace.

FOR A START THE UNACCEPTABLE ABUSES I HAD WITNESSED HAD VERY SIMILAR PATTERNS.. THEY WERE RELATED TO STEALING OF MONEY, DISTORTION PREACHING ON TITHING, BUT ALSO RELATED MAINLY ON THE INADEQUATE SUPERVISIONS BY THE RESPONSIBLE SUPERINTENDENTS ON THE BAD PASTORS WHO WERE FALSELY ALLOWED TO DO THEIR OWN THING, ACTED LIKE DICTATORS.
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

Help in identifying-spiritual-abuse -- anyonecare.wordpress.com “First, abusive churches have a control-oriented style of leadership. “

”There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.” Ezekiel 22:25-28

“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Timothy 6:3-5

Jesus said “Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a mans life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.” Luke 12:15

“For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.” Ephesians 5:5-7

“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:24

Some Pastors will go to Bible school for years and next not even change spiritually. I had the fortunate aspects of being associated for some time with many Bible students in a local religious institution. I happily got to know many of the…m personally while they were going to school and I had even lived with some of them too, as we shared a house.. I next saw many of these same persons who had next graduated from the Bible school and they next went on in life. What I had specially had noted was the good persons who went to the Bible school were next good and kind, humble persons. I had also noticed that the bad persons, the bad Bible students, those who had lied, stole, abused others, committed adultery, they next were still not changed even though they had graduated from the Bible college. All proving that Bible study alone does not change a persons but rather the spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit changes all of the persons. Now the Churches who try to manipulate , please all persons will fail

“There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and there is that withholdeth more than is meet, but it tendeth to poverty. The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. He that withholdeth corn, the people shall curse him: but blessing shall be upon the head of him that selleth it.” Proverbs 11:24-26

In one city I had been to every church I went to was great, but in another city every church I went to was bad and why was that now?

As I have traveled from city to city, provinces to province, to the US as well I also have visited so called Christian, Evangelical visited churches and one thing that has clearly amazed me, disrobed me as well was how not only are too often the leadership of the church pretentious inadequate, including the pastors, elders, deacons, but also the fact that in each city the churches tend to very very similar, all mostly very bad.. I have often said that these churches have been unable to significantly change the surrounding characters of persons because they rather have been conformed to them, they now have watered down falsely their membership standards, mainly have conformed to the local ruling evil spirits. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/north-american-churches/

it took me a while to next figure out what was wrong with a close, personal friend of mine, an evangelical pastor, and also with his associates now too in one of our local churches now too.. for he often had some of the right sounding words.. but some how I knew something was always obviously basically wrong.. it even was the fact he clearly was always now concerned about the Basics of life: food, clothing, shelter, job, image and too often rather.. their concern for having better material things… Hirelings or prostitutes to me it means the same thing.. sadly the last 12 pastors I had personally encountered where now hirelings!

(Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29 The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30 Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/a-hireling-in-an-evangelical-church/

The opposite of humility is pride. Pride comes from within, out of the heart of men
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/pride-leads-to-destruction-and-humility-to-honour-what-motivates-many-persons-these-days/

It is not too long of a time when one hears in life negative criticisms about even the Church of Jesus, Christ, or the pastors, or the church elders.. and while we are all still to keep our eyes and ears open we all now can avoid the great disappointments if we firstly still do go to a Church to discover, to get to know God firsthand, and not rather to know better the preacher, or the elders, or the denomination.

Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

When I seek God I find him and he does not fail me or disappointed me.

(Eccl 12:1 KJV) Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

(James 4:8 KJV) Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/dont-be-disappointed-with-god/

Let another man praise thee and not thyself.. and check if what is said is really so now too.. and all this now is nothing new as well. How many of you do know that even the preacher now can lie too?

(Acts 20:31 KJV) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. 34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. 35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/too-often-misleading-preachers/

(Prov 27:23 KJV) Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WANT AN OVER SIMPLIFIED RELIGION, GOSPEL, BIBLE.. AND 95 PERCENT OF THE CHRISTIANS EVEN NOW DO NOT READ THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES A DAY, SO THEY BELIEVE MOSTLY WHAT OTHERS HAD SAID ABOUT THE BIBLE. Mostly distortions, lies, heresies too..

ALMOST ALL CHRISTIANS DO HAVE TO STOP LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHERS SAY THE BIBLE SAYS AND TO RATHER NOW START TO KNOW, READ THE BIBLE THEMSELVES. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE STILL IN GREAT ERRORS..

NOW THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THERE ARE TRUE AND FALSE APOSTLES, PROPHETS, ELDERS, TEACHERS AND HOW TO RECOGNIZE THEM. By their behaviors..

“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:5 “Is John MacArthur a heretic when he teaches the entire Pentecostal movement worldwide (over 400 million) is of Satan? Isn’t blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when one attributes the gift of God to Satan? When MacArthur boldly teaches all speaking in tongues done today is demonic he has no idea of the consequences he’s facing!
http://safeguardyoursoul.com/are-tongues-demonic/

One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now. today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade a pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well. But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others. Now sad but true.. too many false pastors, false teachers, false cults, false denominations with hidden agenda take advantage of this void and lead the professing Christian sheep astray next, helped by the devil in all of this too undeniably.
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/pastors-elders-shepherds-christian-leaders-evangelists/

I strongly support the existence of good church shepherds, good church pastors, good elders, who visit their flock, provide help to them, do keep vigilance, guard over them and their good welfare, visit them in the Hospital too. These acts clearly distinguishes them from the much too many bad pastors, rather pastoral prostitutes or hirelings WE SEEM TO STILL ENCOUNTER EVEN THESE DAYS. * Bad men who were not chosen by God to be shepherds, but rather self appointed even for many wrong reasons. And the term pastors in the Bible is rather a plural one meaning the local church should have many of them now too. Not just a false one man ministry. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

God speaks to us in many ways today postedat.wordpress.com
Some people seem amazed that God can, and will now speak to his children, given the proper conditions being met, but me I am often amazed how is it that so many people cannot hear God, will not confess their sins now too..

(Zec 4:6 KJV) Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.

(John 14:23 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading, the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally spares the the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(1 Cor 2:16 KJV) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,, interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both “saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man. Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement

Even all Jews and Zionists would do well to learn from the Biblical account of even the Apostle Judas.” When morning came, he called HIS DISCIPLES to him and chose twelve of them whom he also designated apostles: Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor” (Lk. 6:13-16). Once he was one of the Apostles but next you can tell what he realy was by what he did, by his own fruits, theft and betrayals included.. ” Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.” Psa 41:9 All four gospels identify Judas as the betrayer. The same Judas Iscariot also had left everything to follow the Lord. In modern terminology, he had ‘accepted’ Jesus as Lord Judas is a prime example of a ONCE CHOSEN believer who fell into absolute apostasy. For three years he followed the Lord with the other disciples BUT HE NEXT BECAME A TRAITOR, turning against Jesus Christ the Messiah, Judas quietly became a vile, tool of Satan WITH his heart gradually hardened became the false, treacherous man who had even sold the Savior even for a fistful of coins. He served as crooked treasurer for Jesus and the Apostles, which meant he carried the money bag. and abused it. John tells us that he was also dishonest and that he often stole money out of the bag whenever he wanted it. he objected so strongly to Mary (sister of Martha and Lazarus) pouring expensive perfume (nard) on Jesus’ feet. He said they should have sold the nard and used the money to help the poor. But what he really wanted was more money in the treasury so he could steal it. (John. 12:1-6); Judas clearly unlike the other apostles did not give up his Jewish heritage but falsely tried to hang on to it.; He made the mistake that falsely looked towards a revived Jewish empire on earth. Judas next committed suicide even and he was next replaced as an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

 

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