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Jews and their own need of Salvation by Jesus Christ still too

All Israel Shall Be Saved?

by Steve Wohlberg

Romans 11:26 says, “And so all Israel will be saved.” What does this mean?

Obviously, it doesn’t mean every Jew will be saved. In fact, the same chapter says God hopes to “save some of them” (vs. 14). Judas was a Jew, yet we know he will be lost for betraying Christ. Jesus called him, “the son of perdition” (John 17:12). Jesus told many Jews, “If you do not believe I am He [the Messiah], you will die in your sins” (John 8:24). Not every Jew believes in Jesus Christ, thus many will “die in their sins” and be lost.

Many Christians today interpret Romans 11:26 as applying to the end of the seven-year tribulation when Jesus appears in the clouds at His Second Coming. In other words, they don’t apply the verse to all Jews throughout history, but only to “all Jews” who are alive at the end. Supposedly, at the end of the tribulation, all remaining Jews in Israel will look up, see Christ coming in the clouds, realize He is the true Messiah, believe in Him, and thus “All Israel will be saved.”

This is a false teaching, as I will attempt to show.

  1. First, the context of Romans 11 is not the Second Coming.
  2. “There is no partiality with God” (Romans 2:5-11). It would be an act of partiality to save “all Jews” at the end, but not “all Jews” in history. The idea is, “When all final Jews see Christ coming in the clouds, then they will believe.” But this would give those final Jews a supposedly irresistible opportunity to believe in Jesus Christ which past Jews have not had. Nor would this be fair to “all Gentiles” living at the end. Why would God save all Jews at the end but not all Gentiles? All Gentiles will see Jesus coming just like all Jews.
  3. When Christ finally appears in the clouds, IT’S TOO LATE TO BELIEVE IN HIM. Rev. 22:11,12 says that before He comes in the clouds, all decisions have already been made. Jesus said it will be like Noah’s day (Mat. 24:37-39). In Noah’s day the door of the ark closed before the flood came (Gen. 7:16). When the flood came, it was too late. To save all Jews AT THE SECOND COMING would be like saving all those outside the ark WHEN THE RAIN STARTED FALLING.
  4. When Jesus comes in the clouds, this is the time of judgment upon ALL unbelievers who don’t know God nor obey the gospel (2 Thess. 1:7-10; Jude 14,15).

So what does this mean, “All Israel shall be saved”? First of all, Romans 9:6 says there are two Israels. one is an Israel according to the flesh (Romans 9:3,4) and the other is the Israel of God (Galatians 6:14-16). The Israel of God is composed of both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus Christ (Gal. 3:29). Gentiles who believe are grafted in. They become part of the “same body” with believing Jews (Eph. 3:6). Paul calls this unity of believing Jews and Gentiles, “the mystery of Christ” (Eph. 3:4).

The immediate context of Romans 11:26 is vs. 25. When “the fullness of the Gentiles has come in,” then “all Israel will be saved.” Or, to be exact, “And so all Israel will be saved.” In other words, the coming in of the fullness or total number of the Gentiles results in “all Israel” being saved. Paul’s idea seems to be that when all Gentiles (totally, throughout history) have come in, that is, have been grafted into the Vine, they, uniting with all Jews who have become believers, will form the total number of the saved. Paul also reveals that when Gentiles come in, God can use this to motivate some Jews to believe (verses 11 & 14). Vs. 25 calls this whole thing, “this mystery,” which we have already proven to be the “mystery” of both Jews and Gentiles being united in one body through Christ (Eph. 3:4,6). Vs. 27 says all are saved because Christ takes away their sins through His covenant, which must be the New Covenant, which applies to all believers, Jew and Gentile. Thus the “all Israel” that is saved is the total group of believing Gentiles and Jews combined.

The “all Israel that is saved” does not apply to all Jews throughout history, nor can it apply to a select favored group who become instant believers when Jesus Christ comes crashing down through the sky. By that time, it is too late to believe.

do see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/who-rules-your-rulers-god-himself/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

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This says it all

  
(Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
  
(Rev 2:5 KJV)  Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.     
  
 
 
 
 
 

“God Hears

God sees and hears whatever you ARE GOING through. He sees your misfortunes, abuse, tears, burdens, pain, and mistakes. He sees your disappointment- THE CHILD GIVING you trouble. He sees the wrong choices, the husband. He sees and avenges. He never leaves your life like he found you. Sometimes you don’t see him working, but know that He is. It may take years for it to come to pass. However, DON’T cast away your confidence. Trust Him.

Seek godly counsel. others will encourage you to give up on God promises. Months ago, I spoke with a friend about a situation and she convinced me to turn back. I hung up the phone and the Holy Ghost spoke to me. He asked, “Are you giving up on me?” I was encouraged to hold on even longer. Sometimes, we don’t understand, but we can not lean to our own understanding. We have to LET GOD direct our path.

Sara conceived and bare ABRAHAM A son in his old age. at the set time of which God had spoken to him. (genesis 21) In the process, Sara got out of the will of the Lord and gave her bondwoman, Hagar to be his wife. (Genesis 16) He went into her and she conceived.

Sara saw the son of Hagar and said to Abraham, cast out this bondwoman and her son. (Genesis 21:10-17) Abraham took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it to Hagar and sent her away. She wandered in the wilderness and used all of the water. She left the child under a bush and went a way off. She did not want to watch him die. She cried loudly.

God heard the crying boy, and an angel called Hagar from heaven. “What’s the matter?” he asked her. Don’t be afraid! God has heard the boy crying in the bushes. Arise, get your son. God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water, And she went and filled the bottle with water and gave the boy to drink. God was with the boy. (Genesis 21:10-17)

God hears. He sees. Why did God let this happen? It is a time and a season that things happens in this life. We are tried in the furnace of afflictions. God does little things in part to prepare you, so you can handle it. He is with you in your trials. He will strengthen your mind. This is the battle ground. Keep praying, and reading your Bible. He will send an angel to talk to you. He will show up in a greater way. The devil will tell you that you have done wrong. He is a liar. Stay in church.” Wait on God’s vision to come to pass. It will be fulfilled in your life.”

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(John 2:10 KJV)  And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
 
(Eph 5:18 KJV)  And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
 
 (Luke 11:13 KJV)  If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
 
(Eph 1:13 KJV)  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
 
(Eph 4:30 KJV)  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
 
(1 Th 4:7 KJV)  For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
 
(1 Th 4:8 KJV)  He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
 
(1 Th 4:9 KJV)  But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.
 
yes I still do prefer to talk about what the Bible says.. not mere men’s views..
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

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