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the sole and the only, true Israel today is the Church

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Firstly if you NOW have accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord then you must also now die to self, die to all your own goals, desires, will, culture, etc., and NOW ONLY serve God alone, follow solely after God’s will.. and this is not an option too.

Now the sole and the only, true Israel today is the Church, the bride of Christ.. so the church alone can claim these promises of God IN THE BIBLE, today..

“And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel” (Ex. 19.6).

This simply means God will usher in the Messiah through Israel, and he has already done that as well.. Jesus Christ.

Jews, Judaism, and are exalting themselves divisively and Messianic Jews have given their lives to a false Christ, one that accuses falsely the Church and Christ our Creator. Jesus did not say to create a denomination called Messianic Judaism, saying “I of Cephas” (denom 1) or “I of Apollos” (denom 2, etc.) or “I of Christ ” (congregationalist). We are not even to say “I of Christ” the Bible says since a church is not a congregation but a locality of believers. And the Bible makes a distinction between the false Church or false tares that try to look like the saved wheat and the true Christians.

If the Messianic Jews are born-again, saved in Christ by His precious blood, then why are they so hostile to Christians the Church-body of Christ. It seems to me too that it all comes back to a racism. a false pride by Jews, falsely exalting themselves as Jews even in matters of Christian fellowship and Church gatherings.

Messianic Judaism is a cult of Jews (and non-Jews) who even still falsely now accuse the Church of persecuting the Jews. And these rather false Messianic Jews are not our real brothers and sisters in Christ otherwise they would not attack the Church (Messianic Judaism itself is not nor ever will be the Church) for we real Christians are the Church and we love even the Jews though sadly only a remnant will remain be saved still.

And Messianic Judaism is a contradiction in terms because Judaism clearly rejects THE Messiah Jesus Christ. There is only one right Messiah who already came in His first coming. Judaism still falsely claims it has its own Messiah but it is not the Christ. Christians always do reject Judaism and Pharisees, so it is wrong for a Christian to call himself a Messianic Jew or any derivative thereof. If you are a Messianic Judaism Jew you still really do worship a false Christ. The Messiah already came. We do not wait for His first coming but His second coming. Therefore, now you should be a Christian. Period!

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” (Rev. 20.4)

The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.

Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY Jerusalem.. In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1). And the full promised by God restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state.. In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. It is unbelievable, undeniable that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been so easily misled by others. The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament.

It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too. after their second dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even for the Jewish return in 1948.. Do try prove me wrong..

Jesus, who is God clearly said to all persons now.. JN 15:4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much …fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 15:6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. (Rev 3:12 KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. (Heb 1:2 KJV) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (Acts 2:36 KJV) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Christian Zionists falsely now contrary to the New Testament do support the rebuilding of the nation of Israel, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, and the rebuilding of the Temple and are in error because of their false refusal to acknowledge Jesus Cjrist as Lord and how Jesus and the Apostles reinterpreted the Old Testament, with a false assumption that Old and New Testament run at times parallel into the future, the former speaking of Israel and the latter of the Church.

(Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

Jesus and the apostles repudiated the notion that the Jews continued to enjoy a special status or relationship apart from faith in Jesus as their Messiah. If God does not show favoritism, the Jews cannot an longer presume to enjoy a favored or exclusive status. By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear. (Hebrews 8:13). The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming– not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship (Hebrews 10:1)

It is fundamental that all persons, Zionist and Christians, do read the Scriptures solely with Christian eyes, and that they interpret the Old Covenant in the light of the New Covenant, not the other way round. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. (Colossians. 2:16-17) This is the most basic hermeneutical error which Christian Zionists consistently repeat is illustrated in the way Christian Zionists continue to regard the Jews as God’s ‘chosen people’ and clearly which is no longer true.

(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. (Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride… her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number. (Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. (Rom 9:7 KJV) Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. (Rom 9:32 KJV) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; (Rom 16:18 KJV) For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (Rom 8:5 KJV) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.As per the next full supposed re-gathering of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus. (Acts 2:2 KJV) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. (Acts 2:36 KJV) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 16:31 KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Reality also now is that Apostle Paul was once a Jew but he rightfully gave up his Jewish religion, and followed solely after Jesus Christ so did all of the Apostles, and that was why the Jews hated them, and still do.. There is no Jews or gentiles now in Heaven only born again Christians, all those persons anointed with the holy spirit.

(Isa 58:11 KJV) And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. (Isa 58:12 KJV) And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

(Neh 8:10 KJV) Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the LORD is your strength.

Some people are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and not by the Holy Spirit so they clearly here will fail at it still too. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l6d28p

Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness. Isa 41:11 Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish. Isa 41:12 Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought. Isa 41:13 For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Isa 41:14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. Isa 41:15 Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff. Isa 41:16 Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel. Isa 41:17 When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them. Isa 41:18 I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water. Isa 41:19 I will plant in the wilderness the cedar, the shittah tree, and the myrtle, and the oil tree; I will set in the desert the fir tree, and the pine, and the box tree together: Isa 41:20 That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it.

Isa 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. Isa 49:2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; Isa 49:3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified. Isa 49:4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God. Isa 49:5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength. Isa 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Isa 49:7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee. Isa 49:8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages; Isa 49:9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Show yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places. Isa 49:10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them. Isa 49:11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.

Isa 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

(Song 2:10 KJV) My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. (Song 2:11 KJV) For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; (Song 2:12 KJV) The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; (Song 2:13 KJV) The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away

Now still even from the first century, there are many, many false persons, Judiazers, pushing falsely Judaism and it’s value on Christians, even the cults and not just the Jewish persons now too.. and do note this that none of them are from God.. they are all demonic rather or in fact sadly they are still just LIARS, bullies, some even immoral agressive jungle fighters, control freaks . http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

(1 Tim 1:8 KJV) But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (Rom 5:20 KJV) Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: (Rom 5:21 KJV) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

When it comes to the demands of the Old Testament Laws still too many persons do not understand it’s requirements and they should not be preaching about it to others.. God’s grace supercedes the Laws demands.

Jews are almost all going to Hell for God is no longer on their side.. they the Jews had left Him, Jesus Christ.. there will be a remnant come out of Israel saved but they will be Christians now and no longer Jews.. The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus. The true Christians since Jesus Christ next always left their old Jewish Synagogues all together… and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well, also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior .The only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law – essentially the the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament. Worshipping the Jews over any other nation is still a great sin.. Thomas I suggest that you quote the whole new Testament honestly.. there are no Jews or Gentile in Jesus Christ, the church, Heaven but only Christians… the fact that the Apostles were Jews, does not mean they wrote the new testament.. the Holt Spirit wrote the New testament..the same Holy Spirit you clearly do not still have, who does not lead you into all truth it seems.. otherwise you would not be stuck on the past, but would be in the New testament. Now still even from the first centuary, there are many, many false persons, Judiazers, pushing falsely Judaism and it’s value on Christians, even the cults and not just the Jewish persons now too.. and do note this that none of them are from God..

There are almost no historical documents, writings available world wide or only a handful at the most at the time of Christ.. so who even realy does knows what the Jews or Jesus did, wore, ate, dressed like, besides what is stated in the New Testament.. .. no one .. so forget these false Judiazers, false brethren now too and their false cultural teachings, bondages..

“I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.” (Acts 10:34-35). For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not… sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (Acts 20:29 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (1 Tim 4:1 KJV)

It is a fact that at the time of Jesus Christ here on earth Apostles Judas and most of the Jewish people had expected Jesus Christ the messiah to deliver their nation from the Romans and set up a Davidic Kingdom with a Jew monarch on the throne in Jerusalem.. and they were disappointed this had not happened.. Judas and the Jewish people they had failed to see that this was not going to happen..” “For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.” Romans 10:2-3.

TOO MANY PERSONS, JEWS, JUDIAZERS, CULTS, NOW FALSELY DO LIKE TO ENFORCE ALL OF LAWS UPON OTHERS THAT THEY THEMSELVES STILL CANNOT HOLD TO, THEIRS ARE CULTURAL TRADITIONS, RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS, LAWS MOSTLY THAT ARE ALL MAN MADE AND NOT ORDAINED BY JESUS CHRIST, AND NONE OF THEM WILL HELP YOU GET TO HEAVEN.. JESUS HAD NOT ONLY FREED US FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH BUT FROM MAN MADE TRADITIONS NOW AS WELL.. THERE ARE ONLY A FEW LAWS NOW IN SUMMARY APPLICABLE TO ALL CHRISTIANS BASICALLY.. LOVE GOD, LOVE OTHERS, CONFESS YOUR FAULTS, BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, READ THE BIBLE DAILY, AND PRAY CONTINUOUSLY.

Some Christians today interpret Romans 11:26 as applying to the end of the seven-year tribulation when Jesus appears in the clouds at His Second Coming. In other words, they don’t apply the verse to all Jews throughout history, but only to “all Jews” who are alive at the end. Supposedly, at the end of the tribulation, all remaining Jews in Israel will look up, see Christ coming in the clouds, realize He is the true Messiah, believe in Him, and thus “All Israel will be saved.”This is a false teaching, Rather the immediate context of Romans 11:26 is vs. 25. When “the fullness of the Gentiles has come in,” then “all Israel will be saved.” Or, to be exact, “And so all Israel will be saved.” In other words, the coming in of the fullness or total number of the Gentiles results in “all Israel” being saved. Paul’s idea seems to be that when all Gentiles (totally, throughout history) have come in, that is, have been grafted into the Vine, they, uniting with all Jews who have become believers, will form the total number of the saved.The Israel of God is composed of both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus Christ (Gal. 3:29). The “all Israel that is saved” does not apply to all Jews throughout history, nor can it apply to a select favored group who become instant believers when Jesus Christ comes crashing down through the sky. By that time, it is too late to believe. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

WE NEED TO FIRSTLY ASK THE JEWS TO REPENT OF ALL THEIR WRONG DOINGS, OF NOW TRYING TO Reconquer THE PROMISED LAND, EVEN STILL NOW, IN THE FLESH., RATHER THEY ARE STILL RETURN TO JESUS CAUSE THEY THE JEWS ARE ALL STILL ALL GOING TO HELL EVEN IF THEY NOW ARE LIVING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL FOR WITHOUT JESUS TODAY AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR EVERYONE, THE JEWS INCLUDED THEY GOES TO HELL.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

ALSO NOW YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IN DELIBERATE SIN, REJECTING JESUS CHRIST’S AND THE NEW TESTAMENT TEACHING EVEN AND STILL CLAIM YOU ARE EVEN ANY KIND OF A CHRISTIAN.. YOU ARE NOT ANY KIND OF REAL CHRISTIAN IF YOU REJECT ANY PART OF THE NEW TESTAMENT.

The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life generally still turn to a simplified Old Testament version gospel, practice and not a real New Testament based Gospel, religion or they even turn to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Sprit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They practice …idolatry instead and now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. The devil leads them into this. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom

Christian Zionism as a FALSE man made theology AND in its basic starting points does not discriminate between a very small Remnant of physical Israel who HAD accepted Christ and came entirely out of the Old Covenant shadows, and ALSO the large majority who rejected Christ and still reject him. ,By Christian Zionism ADVOCATES I am not talking only about JEWS, BUT John Hagee and his Christians United For Israel (CUFI), but about the entire FALSE theology of John Darby, C.I. Scofield, Lewis S. Chafer, Hal Lindsey and many other celebrities. http://halfback.posterous.com/some-old-testament-texts-on-the-transformatio

The curse on this one barren fig-tree speaks of the character of God as righteous and sin-hating. The curse that fell on Christ speaks of the character of God as merciful, one who loves his own people with a love that is determined to bring them to glory. None of us is fruitful, no not one, but God made his Son, the only fruitful one, a curse, that God might be just in pardoning us, and that the fruit of righteousness might be found in us by the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Confess your barrenness to God, and then pray “Make me truly fruitful O Lord!” That will mean that you’ll need to be changed. A bad tree bears bad fruit. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. So cry to God that you might be changed, made a new creation. Cry today, “Change me O Lord!” Begin to pray that prayer in your own words now, and don’t stop until you know that God has heard you and the beginnings of new fruit are seen in your life. Then work with the Spirit so that the fruit increases thirty-fold, sixty-fold and a hundred-fold. Why not?

And the spin doctors in Israel, Jewish supporters are hard at work justifying all of their actions, the good and the bad ones. Some they even falsely manage to paint supporters of Israel as moderates and all others as being anti-Semites, and many Jews still are often are deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians but still the Criticism of Israel is not an anti-Semitic act

JERUSALEM – Israel’s prime minister accused his Turkish counterpart of making a “dark and false” statement by calling Zionism a crime against humanity , a conflict by two former allies is falsely described as a ”hateful attack” on Jews. But that does not even make it the truth. The Zionist movement admittedly was the main force behind the establishment of the state of Israel.Pinches Goldschmidt, chief rabbi of Moscow and the head of the Conference of European Rabbis, said a criticism of Zionism amounted to anti-Semitism. “This is an ignorant and hateful attack on the Jewish people” some others have falsely imply. .But many Christians even hold that Zionism is still not a God ordained event even now.

But now does anyone have one, one New Testament verse that confirms Israel’s present return and possession of the Promised land. I am not aware of one, If you do which one is it? It is unbelievable, undeniable that many persons who really do not know the Bible in full can be so easily deceived, led astray by Zionism and by many others, bad pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included..

Catholic Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga compares the Jewish controlled media with “Hitler,” because they undeniably are “protagonists of what he does not hesitate to define as “a persecution against The Church.” Catholics rightfully do not accept that Jerusalem should be the indivisible capital of the State of Israel, but that it should be the capital of the three great monotheistic religions Christianity included.. This does not make him or anyone else who agrees with him now an out and out Jew-hater or a Virulent anti-Semite. Anti-Semite is too often a slanderous, false label made by Jews to bash those who do not agree with their acts, views.

According to the common hegemonic narrative in Israel today there are two malicious forces at work. The first is the old familiar false anti-Semitic impulse of the world at large, an infectious bug that supposedly affects everyone who comes into contact with Jews. and the malicious Palestinians who are seen as being solely bent on destroying Israel through some atavistic impulse, the only conceivable way of confronting Palestinians is through military might. Jews tend to fail to see their own negative acts and personal contributions that has historically caused them to be despised and twice removed from their own land by the prevalent governments. Israel here again is in a state of denial. Sadly even most of the Israeli Jews are still fed daily by the Jewish controlled media that hides from them the realities of their occupation, stagnation or discrimination. The general price in Israel for any honest intellectual dissidence is foretold: slandering, exaggeration, condemnation and excommunication..

It should be evident to any Bible reader that everything the Jews do or did is, was not God sanctioned even as once bing the chosen ones not even the Wars between the Jews and the Babylonians, Romans. http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

Prime Minister Golda Meir lying had said ‘This country now exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.’ That was the past as for the present yet still there is no such New Testament approval, prediction.. And the false Jewish supporters can solely refer to the Old Testament verses now such as Jeremiah Chapter 31, Joel 3:2, Amos 9:15 and Psalm 83: for they undeniably have no New Testament substantiations, support for Israel’s return or possession now of the past promised land. They now take the land in their own strength and not God’s or by his approval http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, falsely had said: ‘Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.’ No one? Even God has already and many times!

Israel’s many too many present Human rights violations, one sided resolutions, acts, and their lack of diplomatic acts, lack of political negotiations even these days is ludicrous and they all falsely tend to be masked by: their claims of their own security interests, plus the GROSS DISTORTIONS THAT Israel over all is under attack, that Israel is acting for the good of the country, the Problems also always lie with the international Communities and not Israel, that any criticism is a threat to Israel is anti-Semitic, that any “emotional blockade”, an economic, cultural and political boycott of Israel, is a collapse of Israel’s status in the world, that any criticism of the Jews is anti-Israel, or the too often false statement that Israel really only wants PEACE and not more land, that Israel presently is not empire building NOR FORCING THEIR RELIGION ON OTHERS . Now Israel undeniably, clearly they do for SURE seem to use a HEAVY, UNDERHANDED ways TO GET their PEACE, in using their supposedly natural right to defend themselves AS MANY OF US TOO OFTEN CAN still rightfully see. The often immoral, murderous persons of Israel who kill innocent citizens included they too must understand that the ends never do justify the means they use to get there.. and that their eye for an eye approach which too often now goes to extreme is also idiotic..

Many evangelicals do now support a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank. They support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians. If all of the learned men are going to be truly historically honest, surely they must admit that the Jews have every right to inhabit the land of their fathers, the covenant land given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by none other than God himself and do next admit that right was the same God who took the right next away from them, from that land now twice too… THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT talk about the Jews return next their third return to it too. But God still wants the Jews and Palestinians brothers to live in peace together. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine/

The stranglehold that a small minority of ultra-Orthodox rabbis has achieved over the courts, governments in Israel is a great unacceptable travesty too. A Jewish rabbi has issued a book giving Jews permission to murder non-Jews, including babies and children, who may pose an actual or potential threat to Jews or Israel. “It is permissible to kill the Righteous among non-Jews even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation,” Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar settlement in the occupied West Bank, wrote in his book “The King’s Torah.”

Israel as we all can know still tends to use Disproportionate force to deal with any aggressor, wrongs. Israel’s air strikes, savagery, Targeting civilians, aimed directly at civilian areas in the Middle East has been one of their most immoral, cruelest, unjustifiable acts too now. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/what-the-canadian-conservatives-do-not-say-about-israel/

Jews falsely have only one goal in mind in regard to the Palestenions, to kick out all Palestinians out. As the world often sees it, many see it, clearly selfish, self centered Israel generally is a bully. This Bully country Israel has been often seen as the plague in the Middle East. Israel propagandists are falsely Making the Bully Israel the Victim. Israel has never done everything in its power to avoid civilian deaths in Gaza or elsewhere. When this Bully Israel is on a war, revenge rampage, nobody can stop him. The world is sick and tired of this bully Israel and it’s bad acts. Enough is enough. The self centered, despotic “Neighborhood Bully” Israel too often still cannot see it’s own faults, falsely tries to paint the picture as everyone else rather being the aggressor, abuser, bully. These shameful approaches by this Bully Israel who has a clear arrogance of all others personal rights falsely cannot tolerate any dissension, anti-Israel protestors, possible loss of any domination power. Israel falsely, too often sees the world as being itself all wrong. Israel and Israel’s systematic bullying must be dealt with as one would deal with any other bully. The neighborhood bully Israel has almost already been driven out of every land it had. Israel seriously continually needs to overcome being a Bully, needs to lose most of its drunken power swagger, and Israel needs now to recover the desperately needed personal, real humanity and compassion. Serious negative repercussions need to be carried out on Israel. Or once again the Bully Israel must be taught a hard lesson and removed from it’s land as in the past. The World hostility toward Israel is largely an expression of international exasperation that continued conflict with the Palestinians rightful land claims

” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labeled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ”http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/.

(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

There are many major unacceptable lies I too do encounter on the net.. no lie is still really acceptable too.

One lie of which is that we all should still pray for the peace of Jerusalem supposedly? As Jerusalem is so important to God now? Really? But that was not at all what Jesus taught us all to pray in the Lord’s prayer firstly too. Right or wrong?

No…w Zionism as it presently being presented is from the pits of hell.. Now do try to prove me wrong..

One here really would do better to focus on what God really says over what the Jews and other false preachers would tell you. Now what is so wrong about asking the Lord to place that hedge of protection around His Chosen ones? the Jewish PEOPLE?

DREAM ON.. THE JEWS ARE NO LONGER GOD’S CHOSEN ONES.. THE LOST THAT STATUS WHEN THEY OPENLY HAD REJECTED JESUS CHRIST THE MESSIAH. TO BE MORE ACCURATE THE TERM CHOSEN ONE REFERS TO THE CHRISTIANS ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NOW AND NOT TO THE JEWS.

NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO ALWAYS STILL FIRSTLY BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES SOLELY ON THE NEW TESTAMENT, EVEN THE SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON SOLELY ON ANY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES..

BY THE WAY THERE ALSO IS NO NEW TESTAMENT REFERENCE, THAT SUBSTANTIATED THE 3RD JEWISH RETURN TO THE HOLY LAND, THE PROMISE LAND. THE WAY I SEE IT NOW

And we all should not show false partiality to the Jews, even now wrongfully overlook all of the Jews wrong doings, even the fact that the Jews have been killing Christians even in Lebanon, no partiality even because once in the past they the Jews were God’s chosen people.

Today’s Jews and many others now are too quick to associate with the Promised Land of Joshua’s time. However, as per the conditions of the Bible , the New Testament and even the establishment of the State of Israel by the United Nations in 1948 it now raises many valid questions about that relationship validity. ” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. Now what right can Israel today use to claim again their God promised land when they have as in time pasts also openly, undeniably rejected God, even Jesus Christ as their God, Messiah, King, Savior, Healer, Lord, and the same Jesus who clearly predicted the expulsion of the Jews from Israel under the Romans next did not spell out the date of their return

It’s true, that some supporters of Israel occasionally use “anti-Semitism” to shield Israel from criticism.Anti-Semitic to criticize Israeli construction in Jerusalem?; one man’s anti-Semitism is another’s freedom to criticize Israel.“Let it be clear: Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is wrong, But singling Israel out for selective condemnation and opprobrium — let alone denying its right to exist or seeking is destruction — is discriminatory and hateful, and not saying so is dishonest.” Ottawa Protocol

Less any one gets lost, there are Good Jews, Good Arabs, good Americans, good Canadians and bad ones too. But is seems both Jews and Arabs are equally guilty of hate, unforgiveness, revenge, theft, murder, an eye for an eye approach so we can realy not support either side as being mainly in the right http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/

Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

do see also

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l6d28p

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/the-rtrue-israel-of-god-today/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/at-least-i-can-tell-the-whole-real-truth/

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/you-can-have-no-idols-before-god-ever/

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/the-fall-of-jerusalem/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-jews-were-once-gods-chosen-people/

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/about-the-the-new-covenant/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/the-new-covenant-the-new-testament-and-israel/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/my-hearts-desire-and-prayer-to-god-also-is-for-israel-to-be-saved/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/knowing-hebrew-or-greek-is-not-essential-for-all-christians/

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ISRAEL

Posted in Christianity, News & politics, Religious discussions Christianity, tagged CHOSEN, Christian, Christian Blog, Christianity, Church, Conservative Party of Canada, elders, Faith, Israel, Jesus, Jesus Christ, Leadership, New Testament, pastors, Promised Land, Stephen Harper, Theology on March 4, 2012 | Leave a Comment »

Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:17 AM
To: pm@pm.gc.ca PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA
Subject: ISRAEL

Gal 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

At Mount Sinai God told Moses as to how He would proceed to put the children of Israel in possession of their promised inheritance. He would not drive out the inhabitants of the land “in one year”; but He said, “little by little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.” And He God next goes on to say that He would set the bounds of their possession “from the desert unto the river” (Euphrates), and would “deliver the inhabitants of the land” into their hand, and they should “drive them out” before them (Ex. 23:27-31).

Joshua 1:8 … This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

“Behold, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them” (Deut. 1:6-8).

“Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be” (Deut. 11:24).

“And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).

And the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ

“For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith” Romans 4:13

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7.

, “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:29

“And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations, and ye have said unto Him, Nay, but set a king over us” (1 Sam. 10:17-19).

Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

COPY TO http://www.facebook.com/IsraeliPM The Prime Minister of Israel

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Primus.ca

Posted in CELL PHONE, Computers, News & politics, News and poltics, tagged 10 Commandments, Bad customer service, Bell, Business, Call Center, Call centre, Cell Phones, cellphone, Communication, Complaints, CUSTOMER SERVICE, customer services, Customers, Hardware, LG, Mobile, Primus, Prosperity, reviews, Virgin, Virgin Mobile, Virgin Mobile Canada on July 5, 2011 | Leave a Comment »

A person shared with me recently the too common fact that the “customer relationship” departments or even the “hospital ombudsmen”, “provincial ombudsman” for that fact now, they are now a too often are perverse public relationship affair, or the institution’s lies or the spin doctors, bullies, mostly who are liars, con artists and truly they are not there at all to serve the best interest of the citizens, customers. These rather too often price gougers too still do seem falsely to like to find any excuse to stick more charges to the customers even http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/the-people-with-abig-clout-in-canada/

In Canada today it is a well known and documented fact that the majority of our major telecommunication firm’s customer care and/or billing departments even those of Bell, Rogers, Virgin Mobile, Primus are still now very abusive too often towards the customers , they are too often useless, pretentious, immoral even, and the words “customer care” here clearly are misleading, false, they rather are paid company employees who look after the customer’s sole interest who quote the firms own policies, rights, demands.. These same mostly self serving firms and department, persons tend to disrespect even the federal and provincial laws, the consumer protection laws included as ai have found out myself many times now too. They all tend to firstly really not care about any of the customer’s personal abuses, hardships, losses, pains, concerns for almost all of these corporations solely care only about the firm’s own profitability, and their sole, bottom line for them is making more of the almighty buck not matter what the costs, even to the customers. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/bell-canada-to-pay-a-penalty-of-10-million-for-making-misleading-advertising-claims/

Did you also not notice how they all tend to lie and make openly a public claim that they have the best, have the fastest speeds, have a good customer services now as well.. for they all seem to have to advertise falsely what is thus clearly not visible to many.. they seem to have to continually advertise for new customers cause they have a hard time keeping many of the old ones. Consumers have to use a trial and error approach in using the off the shelf medicine to see which ones possible may actually work as stated,, an approach that costs them wastefully loads of money now too.
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Speaking of the too often unacceptable corporate false misleading adverting’s, distortions of the realities even the pharmaceutical firms are also of the this when the use terms like the best, number one, fast relief, extra strong, rapid release, tested which is not true for every sickness or for every sick person.. all this is an ongoing false play on words misleading the average consumers and not helping them to get the medical relief they want, need.

The law already clearly specifies that to be valid a contract between two parties has to be also fair to both of the parties involved, but sadly almost all OF Canada’s telecommunications firms have a grossly one sided contract terms, definitions that mainly dictates out the rights of the firms only and not the customers rights, and this is grossly both illegal and immoral. Public exposure and prosecution of the liars, bullies, abusers, guilty firms serves everyone’s best interest.

Now I had called the customer care department at Primus to confirm my cancellation of their Primus phone services, because they had lied when they had promised now to all the lowest phone bill, and I had asked them Primus if they would confirm the cancellation to me in writing, but they Primus had replied that there was no need to since they Primus had a record of my phone conversation and the details, Now anyway I next immediately confirmed the cancellation date as well to them Primus in writing, and the Quebec law required they Primus give me a full billing balance statement and a full refund within 15 days. But next Primus disregarded my requests, and the Quebec law, and they Primus had next falsely had continued with the cancellation as per their own way as they Primus saw fit to do so, as per their own Primus policies. When I had called the Primus customer care back, had even spoken next to the Primus immediate supervisor, to confirm my objection of their Primus poor actions, abuse of my personal rights, they Primus told me that they themselves Primus had now no right to deal here with my issues, objections, concerns matters and I should contact instead their Primus legal department.. what a useless and immoral, pretentious Primus customer care department now as well. It seems that even the majority of the major telecommunication firms customer care departments they are are useless, , pretentious, immoral even, bullies. The too often perverse internal self regulation by these firms is just more unacceptable masturbation.

Clearly as per here too Primus and even most of these big corporations falsely and unacceptably do still believe that they are still above giving accountability to anyone and they do nor have to respect even the provincial laws.

The RCMP commercial crime division itself does not care if the citizens get robbed, abused by these major firms cause it is a known fact that the RCMP itself has abused the taxpayers, their money too and RCMP is also known to be cost infective, abusive, pretentious and it the RCMP as well needs to be full prosecuted and disbanded too.

see also Basic Contract law http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/virgin-mobile-canada/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/virgin-mobile-canada-has-this-breached-the-quebec-laws-3-times-now-too-in-my-case/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/virgin-mobile-canada-continues-to-falsely-lie-to-me-and-tries-falsely-to-hold-on-my-money-as-well-even-against-the-quebec-law-thread_id28512378%e2%80%9d/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/the-10-commandments-are-still-applicable-today-for-all-corporations-and-business-persons-included/

.. yes, you would think that our public and civil servants, politicans would by now know how to deal with all of these crooks without me having to tell them and all about it still.

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the 10 Commandments are still applicable today for all, corporations and business persons included

Posted in CELL PHONE, News & politics, News and poltics, Religious discussions Christianity, tagged 10 Commandments, Bell, Bible, Catholics, Christian, Christian Blog, Christianity, Church, churches, Deacons, Discernment, elders, Evangelical, god, happiness, Holy Spirit, Jesus, pastors, peace, Preachers, Prophets, Prosperity, religion, Theology, Virgin Mobile Canada on June 28, 2011 | 1 Comment »

The 10 Commandments – God’s First Revelation in the Old Testament

The 10 Commandments are found in the Bible’s Old Testament at Exodus, Chapter 20.

They were given firstly directly by God to the people of Israel at Mount Sinai after He had delivered them from slavery in Egypt:

“And God spoke all these words, saying: ‘I am the LORD your God…

ONE: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.’

TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.’

THREE: ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.’

FOUR: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.’

FIVE: ‘Honor your father and your mother.’

SIX: ‘You shall not murder.’

SEVEN: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’

EIGHT: ‘You shall not steal.’

NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’

TEN: ‘You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’

The 10 Commandments – Christ’s Summation in the New Testament

About 1,400 years later, the 10 Commandments were summed up in the New Testament at Matthew 22, when Jesus was confronted by the religious “experts” of the day:

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:36-40).

A reflective reading of Christ’s teaching reveals that the first four commandments given to the children of Israel are contained in the statement: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” It continues that the last six commandments are enclosed in the statement: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

http://www.allabouttruth.org/10-commandments.htm

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/bell-canada-to-pay-a-penalty-of-10-million-for-making-misleading-advertising-claims/
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The top posts read recently here on this blog

Posted in CELL PHONE, Christianity, health, Medicare, News & politics, Religious discussions Christianity, tagged Alberta, Alcohol, Alliance Church, bad preachers, Canada, Cartoons, Control freaks, Dispensationalist, Free Christian ebooks, god, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Messianic Judaism, Mormons, Pentecostals, Plymouth Brethren, police, REVENUE GENERATING TRAFFIC TICKETS, speed cameras, TITHING, Virgin Mobile Canada on June 15, 2011 | Leave a Comment »

My Top Christian Posts of mine
CANADA POLITICAL CARTOONS
The Jesus Name Apostolic Holiness Church, Oneness Pentecostal Christianity
How many rich people in Calgary, Edmonton Alberta?
Not so funny cartoons
She was selfish, self-absorbed, self-centered and depressed
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear
Canadian Political cartoons
Don’t Believe Everything You Read, or see
The Pentecostal Movement
Latter Rain
BIBLE VERSED WALLPAPERS
Unacceptable Flaws In the Pearl of Great Price.
Report card: Failed- Canada’s hospitals and Health Ministers
God speaks to us in many ways today
The really Bad Alliance , Evangelical churches..
Maison Herron
The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus
To the bad preacher
Pride leads to destruction and humility to honour.. What motivates many persons these days? 2
I am a slave to no man
Married CFB Trenton commander charged in murder
Ignorance of the Law is no excuse, not for any criminals now too
Like all cults, Mormons do tend to get really upset when you question their own beliefs,
Anger, Old age sicknesses
SECRET TITHING
Didn’t God Instruct Christians Not to Judge any Others or non Christians??
What the Bible says about Israel and the Church, one in history and prophecy
CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE
Virgin Mobile Canada a bad firm, add to that Primus now as well
PM Stephen Harper DOES DRINK ALCOHOL
Control freaks
Albertan Hate Crimes Awareness Day
Messianic Judaism today
wrongful accusations
SUPPRESSED RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH IN CANADA
REVENUE GENERATING TRAFFIC TICKETS
THE WORKERS WHO COMPLAIN THAT MANY ERRORS ARE CAUSED BY THE WORK OVERLOAD
Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections
foreign workers alleged to be abused in Alberta
recession
A blatant tax on the motorist – Speed Cameras
The Police cannot get the crimminals
Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren
FREE Christian ebooks | Ocean City Blog -Pass it on

enjoy them all freely too…

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Virgin Mobile Canada has done this breached the Quebec laws 3 times now too in my case.

Posted in CELL PHONE, News & politics, tagged Bad customer service, Business, Call Center, Call centre, Cell Phones, cellphone, Communication, Complaints, CUSTOMER SERVICE, customer services, Customers, Hardware, LG, Mobile, reviews, Virgin, Virgin Mobile, Virgin Mobile Canada on April 26, 2011 | 2 Comments »

A Quebec Superior Court ruling has confirmed a province’s right to intervene in matters of contractual relations involving consumer protection. The provisions in the legislation target not only cellphone companies, but other industries such as internet providers and phone companies

Under the Quebec Bill 60

“If a supplier offers his cell phone service online, by telephone or through an advertisement received by mail, the law requires that he supply you with a detailed description of his offer, which must contain the following information:

supplier’s name, address, telephone number, fax number and e-mail address;
detailed description of the service offered;
total amount payable, including cost of service, related fees and taxes;
description of potential additional costs, i.e. customs tariffs, broker’s fees, other fees such as cell phone delivery, etc.;
transaction currency (Euro, USF, etc.);
if applicable, delivery date, means, time and carrier’s name (e.g. for cell phone delivery);
in-house policies for cancellation, merchandise returns, exchanges or refunds.

Consumer’s consent

This information must be clearly visible on the supplier’s website or, if the transaction occurred by telephone, it must be given to you verbally. The information given by the supplier must be easy to understand in order to allow you to accept or refuse the offer made before concluding the transaction.

Transmission of written contract

The supplier has 15 days to send the written contract. It must be presented so that you can keep and print a copy. This way, you can check to ensure that the contract’s content corresponds to the supplier’s offer.

Cancellation conditions

The law allows you to cancel a package when the supplier fails to respect one or more of his obligations:

You are legally entitled to cancel your contract any time before it is executed if:

the supplier did not give you the compulsory information;
the contract does not respect legal requirements.
The supplier is guilty of false, misleading advertisement

Contract cancellation procedure

You must send a notice of cancellation to the supplier. The law requires no specific model for the notice of cancellation or particular means of transmitting it. The cancellation takes effect the date the notice is transmitted

The supplier must refund your money within 15 days of the date the notice was sent. “

http://www.opc.gouv.qc.ca/webforms/SujetsConsommation/InformatiqueElectronique/TelephonieCellulaire/AnnulationContrat_en.aspx

Now I have obtained a cellphone from Virgin and I have next cancelled the cellphone contract on February 16, 2011 and Virgin already is in breach of the Quebec law by to date April 25,2011 they had not refunded my money within 15 days nor canceling THE CONTRACT Immediately AS WELL. Virgin has also failed now to send within 15 days to me the written contract. It has this breached the Quebec laws 3 times now too in my case. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/virgin-mobile-canada/

and what the big corporations falsely still do think they are above respecting the laws of this country, province?

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Virgin Mobile Canada a bad firm, add to that Primus now as well

Posted in CELL PHONE, Computers, News & politics, tagged Bad customer service, Business, Call Center, Call centre, Cell Phones, cellphone, Communication, Complaints, CUSTOMER SERVICE, customer services, Customers, Hardware, LG, Mobile, reviews, Virgin, Virgin Mobile, Virgin Mobile Canada on March 1, 2011 | 3 Comments »

Look I have rightfully hundreds of time to the government, on the net, to the news media already have said that phone companies undeniably, unacceptable too, are a bad big despotic control freak, monopolistic, immoral, deceptive in reality, practice, and in reality most of the phone companies do not honour the normal, decent laws, rules, regulations. Bell Canada included is a dictator that wants all others to play by it’s own rules. Bell does not know how to respect, keep, honour the terms of it’s contractual obligations to it’s own customers, immoral Bell rather likes to rewrite the contract continuously, one sided so that it is always better solely for Bell. Dream on..

Well even if Bully abusive Bell falsely under the guise of profitability, competitiveness, making more profit or whatever, now still thinks it is a big, large, established firm, corporation that does not have to play by the established rules, rather it can make it’s own rules.

Regulators need to exist cause we all tend to know big bad corporations tend to cheat, lie, abuse the consumers.

Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law- Basic Contract law

Next here is basic legal, valid understanding, terms of a valid contract, contract law for all of the managers, president of Bell and all of Bell employees too. Not just for any customers. Bell had, has definitely detailed, advertised it’s Internet services to all with their terms, limitations and any customers who enters into mutually agreed upon terms, agreement with their services now forms the essential mutually legally binding contract..

1: A contract is a legally binding exchange of promises or agreement between competent two parties, persons of legal age too, that the governmental court, the law of the state or province , or country next will enforce. Contract law is based on the Latin phrase pacta sunt servanda (pacts must be kept). Anyone can enter into a contract, except minors, certain felons and people of unsound mind. It’s important to know that not all contracts details even have to be in writing., for instance, certain agreements can also be made and accepted orally and still be legally enforceable. While the contract agreement doesn’t always have to be in writing, all the other elements of a valid contract still have to be met, included, , fulfilled by law. The bottom line is that the parties generally come to transactions in good faith, mutually trust and understanding, and not a one way approach, one way demands, one way relationship. All valid courts, will not enforce, accept as valid any contract to perform an accepted illegal act. A contract to kill some is invalid clearly too. A person who pays for bad drugs that aren’t delivered can’t next seek the help of a court or the police in getting the money back. Unbelievable some people still do try to do this too. A valid contract also always requires the mutual parties’ consent, which must be freely made, not forced consent, and clearly communicated to each other. Consent is not free when obtained through duress, menace, fraud, lies, undue influence or mistakes, serious errors were presented. Consent isn’t mutual unless the parties agree on the same thing in the same sense, a clear “meeting of the minds. One party now presenting only their own their terms, conditions, without the other parties approval, consent, free will clearly is still not a valid contract. In order for an acceptance of an offer to be effective, it must be made while the sales, specific, fixed service offer is still open. Any person can changes the conditions of an initial offer in responding to the offer, the old offer is clearly now rejected and the changed conditions constitute a counteroffer and that now becomes part of of any subsequent agreed upon contract. I did that with Bell now too. Once there is next a final, written contract between the parties, the parol evidence rule forbids the introduction in a court proceeding of any previous agreements between the parties on the subject matter of the contract.Only certain contracts aren’t valid unless in writing. Generally, they do deal with real property, certain specific loans, debts, money exceeding a certain amount, or contracts concerning the sale of goods worth more than $500 or one that include objects that won’t be performed within one year or within the promisor’s lifetime. Bell now being unable to supply me a promised high speed internet but only a low speed one is still a good example of an invalid contract even if was a written one originally from Bell.

2: The Specific parties. The contract must always include, identify who the agreed upon specific parties are; usually names are sufficient, but sometimes addresses or titles may be used. Bell and the specific customer. Me in this case.

3: The agreed upon object. The Offer, the thing, the value, the services being agreed to is also known as the object or subject and it itself not only must be lawful, possible but it must be a definite, fixed, measurable amount specially now even by the laws of Quebec too. For instance Bell promising to deliver a customer a 6 meg download high speed internet service, where they know they only have a 3 meg line capacity is not legal or legally binding contract. Bell promising to supply their” best services “or “up to 6 megs services” is not legal as well for it is is not really an agreed upon fixed object, rather the object is not definite and most customers have take that to mean 6 megs anyway. . The object of the contract does have to be very specific and measurable. It is Bell obligations now to to clerk up any ambiguity on the contract as agree upon by the comer now too. So if Bell promising a 6 megs internet services, and Bell by law next has to deliver 16 megs to meet their promise that is also now part of the contract too. A specified length of time, such as one year does not mean the contract is still valid if Bell has not lived up to the agreed upon previously contract terms.

4: The outcome, or the considerations. All contracts require consideration, meaning each party must gain something fixed, tangible. It may also be something that is or isn’t done or given. When a party agrees to do something (such as I will paint your house) or to not do something (I will not sell my house to anyone else for 30 days) they next also must gain something in return toy make this a valid contract, they must receive agreed upon fixed payment, a fixed reward. Generally, if I say I’ll paint your house, and you haven’t promised me anything in return, you can’t sue me next for not showing up because I will not receive any consideration firstly”. Once a contract has been created, it can be determined if there are any issues that call into question of its validity too.

5: Termination of contracts. Breach of contract. Breach of contract is recognised by the law with applicable penalties now too. Contracts generally can only be terminated if mutually agree now by both parties as to what the terminations terms included. Parties to a contract may mutually agree to rescind the contract. In that case, the parties may agree on the duties and responsibilities of each party after the rescission. Bell still expecting me to pay for their internet when they do not keep their promises is a breach of the contract, an invalid demand of me. Now is the contract price set, are promised quantities specially determined, and is the time for performance clearly stated? There should be enough information contained in the contract always that, if needed, the courts likely next would be able to enforce the contract or determine the appropriate damages. Unless it is mutually agreed upon before any subsequent court demanded decision action, is taken. Fraud is the intentional misrepresentation of an important issue of the contract. The presence of fraud in a contractual proceeding makes the contract voidable by the party upon whom the fraud was perpetrated. The contract always still now binds both parties, and not just the customer to the terms, conditions of the contract agreed upon now as well. Once it is determined that there is a contract, it it still can, must be determined whether there are any defenses that call into question the validity of the contract.

Bell Changing horses, making changes, additions to the contract in midstream is invalid, a breach, still not allowed, especially without the subsequent, and pre consent, approval of both parties now still too and is a breach of contract rather. That includes Bell capping of my bit torrent downloads too on my unlimited download account

Yes a Bell contract also may end because of a breach by Bell. A breach occurs when a person, or a firm does not fulfill his or her, their responsibilities as promised in the contract. A breach may be minor or major. A major breach is one that does affect the subject matter of the contract and does affect the outcome of the contract. Bell not having sufficient equipment, capacity in place to meet my high speed internet, is a breach of contract. This is also known as a breach of a material issue. When there has been a breach in a contract, the question of damages is raised. The damages due to a party when there is a contract breach depend on many factors, including: which party breaches, and what damages were incurred. In most cases when an injury results from a contract breach, the injured party receives money damages. Such as I have in Dec 2007 from Bell. Bell itself has unacceptably cause now in the last 2 years many unacceptable breaches in our contract that I have clearly even in writing not accepted and have objected too and demand restitution of as well rightfully.Go back to a good school firstly Bell if you cannot understand and keep all of this now too.

“Despite precedents that show that contracts substantially favoring the party with the greater power often are deemed unconscionable (so unfair as to not be enforceable), lawyers stiff draft them and companies still like them. Lesson learned: Make deals that are balanced; contracts that distribute risks and responsibilities fairly. Such deals will be honored by courts and your businesses wealth and reputation will benefit over the long term. “ http://troutmanhays.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/one-sided-contracts-are-a-bad-deal-for-all-parties-or-getting-greedy-will-get-ya/

PS: “In Real Estate specifically , there it is a requirement at Law that contracts be written down in usually lengthy legal forms to avoid uncertainty, ambiguity and to be binding “. When I asked Bell to confirm the contract I had with them in writing they next always had refused to do so..

When attempting to enforce a contract, an individual or business , even Bell should always consider the effect any dispute will have on any long-term business relationship between all of the parties involved.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law/

The present truths about Canada’s phone, cell phone, internet communication businesses

Truth 1

The federal government including the CRTC and the Consumer affairs, industry Ministers do not consistently regulate, monitor, supervise Canada’s phone, cell phone, internet communication business, major telecommunications firms and their employees as well for their false, misleading advertisings, blatant lies, abusive of the customers, nor specially for their too often bad, immoral, pretentiously lying service departments and the CRTC itself does not all even investigate, prosecute the immoral company representatives who lie, mislead the customers.

Truth 2

Dealing with the service departments of the internet providers, cell or phone companies,in obtain a new service or cancelling an existing services too often is one of the worst personal experiences as these firms tend to be vague, uncooperative, unhelpful, and seem to place deliberate customer obstacles in the way. In the last year I have personally dealt with Rogers, Primus, Bell, Virgin mobile and none of these firms customers services were acceptable.These firms have the ability to make the customer services department to be helpful, cooperative, friendly, informative, to be simplified and to expedite matters instead they seem undeniably to like to confuse issues, put obstacles into the customer’s ways too.

Truth 3

Canada’s phone, cell phone, internet communication business Industry too often mislead the customers by claiming that their industry is regulated and they would not even exist in business if they had cheated, lied, for the government would not let them, but nothing can be further from the truth now as well. For they also do lie when it claims that it tends to follow their own High industry standard, for they themselves tend not regulate their own bad employees, as their self regulation tends to be another form of masturbation.The industry standard also now generally is one it seems of lying to the customers, the potential customers, working at obtaining and keeping the customers at any costs,immoral acts included.

For example many of the major internet supply firms too often too they also now do tend to claim , advertise the fact they do have the highest internets speed , and a simple truth is that they all cannot make a similar statement for sure.

Truth 4

The phone, cell phone, internet communication companies individually like to lie, mislead the customers by claiming that their too often abusive, one sided contracts now are all legally bind, even if they already do break even existing federal and provincial laws even. The rather too often hypocritical INDUSTRY often still ask the customers to hold to their own definitions of the contract rules while they themselves too often undeniably do not hold the normal rules of decency and ACCEPTABLE standard.

Truth 5

Furthermore each firm has its own standard but not always applicable contracts that vary significantly between the firms as well that too often are not detailed firstly to the customers beforehand as well during the initial contract stages

Regulators need to exist cause we all tend to know big bad corporations tend to cheat, lie, abuse the consumers.

Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law – Basic Contract law- Basic Contract law

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law/

Virgin Mobile Canada even screws up a simple cell phone and the related cell phone number cancellation procedure. Virgin Mobile Canada Customer services again told me today by phone that they have no power, control over the Virgin Mobile Canada billing , account procedures. statements. refunds, departments.. Now even months later from Feb 15, 2010 Virgin Mobile Canada has not even kept any of their many last Virgin Mobile Canada promises to escalate my Virgin Mobile Canada billing statement, money refund and on April 13, 2011 Virgin Mobile Canada BECAUSE clearly is so incompetent they Virgin Mobile Canada that they do continually do on the phone make useless Virgin Mobile Canada promises . Next Virgin Mobile Canada again informed me that there is nothing else they can now even do for me cause they are the Virgin Mobile Canada customer billing inquiry representative and they are are only a basically useless, powerless Virgin Mobile Canada Customer billing, phone representative, and so they Virgin Mobile Canada do not know when I will next get my due Virgin Mobile Canada credit, my money, my Virgin Mobile Canada cheque, my Virgin Mobile Canada final bill in the mail, they Virgin Mobile Canada do continue to send me for moths the wrong bills, and it takes Virgin Mobile Canada 4 to 6 weeks to next correct them so, but over 2 months had passed and they Virgin Mobile Canada have missed their original promised deadline too to do so.. so they Virgin Mobile Canada continue to lie to me all the time.. they Virgin Mobile Canada do in writing promise you a good Virgin Mobile Canada customer service, they Virgin Mobile Canada claim they have got an award for 5 years for the best customers services, but the reality as I see it differs now .. Now I get a new Virgin Mobile Canada promise i will get my Virgin Mobile Canada cheque 3 to six weeks from the first week of April 2011 when my Virgin Mobile Canada account was now supposedly closed.. Virgin Mobile Canada they cannot DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR ME HERE..The next Virgin Mobile Canada final statement will only be billed to me on the 16 of April, plus it will take at least another 5 to 9 days and then it may be shipped to me? The Virgin Mobile Canada customer service by Virgin was, is stated to me today as being the best in the world according to the last 5 years but my own undeniable witness and reality is that Virgin Mobile Canada statement itself as well is all crap. stating lies, mere useless words.. having to me no evidence of such a fact.

The top 3 “Canada’s Worst Cell Phone Bill” belong to Bell, Rogers, Virgin and next no matter how their spin doctors lie about it, make false promises to change it they all are still bad in reality. I have dealt with bad Bell, Bad Rogers and bad Virgin even as of recently and had been on the CBC radio, TV as well complaining rightfully about Rogers too.. Now I am having problem with Virgin Mobile customer service departments.. they often make verbal and written promises to me that they next never keep to me, so I cannot trust them at all and thus have no use for them.

VIRGIN MOBILE CANNOT KEEP IT’S PROMISES TO SERVE IT’S CUSTOMER PROPERLY EVEN. Undeniable

As I have found many times in March 2011 even even weekly firsthand there is no reality between the cheap mere words of Virgin’s advertised statement for caring about the customer and next still the actual very unsatisfactory poor Virgin Mobile Canada customer service provided when it comes to dealing even with a valid Virgin customer complaints.. next in six weeks now they all I had talked to at Virgin still were unable to cancel the original request of mine to my cell phone service or even to give me a proper Virgin finalized statement of account. and instead the Virgin customer care, the Virgin Billing and accounting departments continued to bill me for my phone services and to disregard my requests and all of Virgin had even failed to correct their inadequacies towards me even many times

Virgin merely does its own thing. Imagine this weeks later after I had even cancelled my Virgin cell phone they have yet even to send me in the mail a final accurate bill statement of all things! Incompetent, pretentious, worst kind of services.. Virgin. They Virgin now cannot even email me an update balance statement for my review.. to insure they had cancelled the phone on the date that I had requested instead I do get another typical buck passing from their customer service number stating that this is a another department fault.. Virgin Mobile wants me to even next call back and talk to the Virgin accounting department, to the Virgin Billing department as well and now why do they bother even having a pretentious, useless and toothless Virgin customer relationship department for the customers to phone to? Why??? I do even get a different version of reality everytime I talk to another Virgin representaive.. and they ask me not to put it in writing but to phone them so why is that? they the bad employees they do want no record of it.. no writen record off the real customer abuse. Dream on and Virgin where is my updated balance statement that i had asked for still too? They next do promise to email me a statement but they have yet to do that as well….

I had cancelled my phone altogether on February 17, 2011, I had cancelled the phone number as well but those liars, definite incompetent at Virgin did not do so.. they even to date March 31, 2011 did not have the account closed but temporarily suspended and all so they can make more money from me even charging me for a phone services I do not have. or use . Now in the last month weekly I have weekly wrote to them even called them and they next promised me real actions, wrote further notes on the subject.. but still they did nothing.. nothing.. they lied when they say the customer is important.. making money is all they care about…

PLEASE NOTE THIS Virgin Mobile Canada

DO TREAT ME NICE IN REALITY FOR I AM IMPORTANT YOUR LYING WORDS, YOUR MERE PROMISES TO DO SO MEAN NOTHING TO ME

I was shocked firsthand now to discover firsthand how badly you do treat your customers. You certainly do not want any future repeat business from them

The Virgin phone company in Canada it takes one day to activate my cell phone but it does next wants to be paid 30 days to disconnect it.. how absurd and what a double standard.. clearly the customer is not important as they claim but Virgin’s money making is MORE important.

Do also NOTE that IF I MISS ONE PAYMENT THE VIRGIN PHONE COMPANY SENDS ME A LETTER THREATENING TO send MY ACCOUNT TO A COLLECTION AGENCY BUT YET WHEN THEY VIRGIN SCREW UP IT IS ALRIGHT, they just say they are sorry.. and what i cannot send them to a collection agency too?

I had completely cancelled my cell phone, and my related phone number as well on Feb 17, 2010 and as of March 15, 2010 I still got no final statement of account by mail.. why was that??? Virgin own inompetencies.

I also do not need any more lying double talk from the Virgin useless representatives. The customer representative next today on the phone March 15, 2010 that I talked to told me he himself is not responsible for the bad services Virgin gave me but only his accounting department WAS, and so I now asked him if he really was a Virgin phone Company representative paid by Virgin and so then actually he was now also responsible for all of his firm’s bad services. He next agreed..

Virgin now also does Lies when it says that the customer is important.. and that it provides a good customer service as well and they cheaply say they are sorry for any bad services that I have received.. I am sorry as well.. and Virgin mere cheap words of apology is unacceptable

Now I was just starting to use a cell phone but clearly next I will be looking at another provider.. cause obviously holding on to your customers is not at all important to you.. especially when you seem to want to work only 9- 5 HOURS AND on business days only now too.. and you want days next to get back to me about my valid complaints now too..

On top of that I was unable even to readily now access your internet sites.. even http://www.virginmobile.ca/en/home/index.html https://www.virginmobile.ca/en/support/contact-us-menu.do http://www.virginmobile.ca/en/members-lounge/ https://www.virginmobile.ca/en/support/contact-us-menu.do rather I ONLY got errors

Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.GET /en/members-lounge/.

The proxy server could not handle the request

Reason: Error reading from remote server

AND I RIGHTFULLY ALSO DID NOT ACCEPT THE VIRGIN STATED CRAP FOR THE FAILURE TO ACCESS THEIR SITE THAT IT WAS MY FAULT OR THAT OF MY MICROSOFT BROWSER FOR I HAD NO PROBLEM ACCESSING ANY OTHER INTERNET SITE

VIRGIN MOBILE ALL CHEAP LOVE.. ALL CHEAP TALK…

“From: Hello

Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:02 AM

Subject: We got your email! Nous avons reçu votre courriel!

Hey there!

Thanks for your email. Its sitting snugly in our inbox and well get to it as soon as we can.

Just so you know, there is a 2 business day turnaround time for email questions. Well aim to get back to you faster than that, though!

Dont forget to check our our FAQ section at virginmobile.ca. The answer youre looking for might already be waiting there.

Lots of love,

Virgin Mobile”

NOTE VIRGIN THIS WAS A Virgin BIG LIE-”Having a problem with your Virgin Mobile Canada phone or service? We’re here to help. Contact us.” -

In todays modern age such poor acts of yours are ALL very unacceptable..

SO DO STOP LYING AND OFFER REAL , DECENT SERVICES TO THE CUSTOMER

///

On 4/1/2011 12:37 PM, Virgin Mobile Canada wrote: Hello, Paul! Marlee here with Virgin Mobile, helping you out and getting you on track as quickly as possible is what I’m all about, However, there are times when contacting support via telephone is going to be necessary. Our Member Care Team will be more than happy to provide you with any information regarding the canceled account. As per privacy policies I am not permitted to access or provide information from within an account via email. You can touch base with Member care by dialing 1-888-999-2321. Advisers are ready to help you out 8:00 am to 12:00 am EST. Monday to Saturday and 9:00 am to 10:00 pm Sunday. Thank you for contacting support via email. Have a great weekend.

Regards,

Marlee

VMC Team

Paul [THREAD_ID:28512378]” .

Virgin is clearly a bunch of crappy liars and are all incompetent, pretenders, for talked to their phone support by phone 5 days and all they did was, do lie.. they instead of cancelling my phone insisted on trying to make more money by not cancelling it. I was promised last week by Virgin on the phone i would get my updated balance statement and the refund for my cell phone overpayment, as well in the mail immediately mail by next week and so far I got neither.. You Virgin do all lie when you say you care about the customer and that you will service them properly even..

So I now again phoned Virgin and Virgin now says in contrast that it will take up to 90 days for me to get my money back. Virgin is stealing my money by not giving it back to me… next Virgin again promises by next week to have all of this issue resolved. Can you belive any of what they say for I do not..

I had a similiar issue, problem with my cell phone refund with Rogers this year and they had returned my 151 dollars in one week.. something Virgin now cannot do and did not do and they Virgin lie and say they offer a good customer service..

Civil and public servants, and Phone cell companies employees are all very much the same,, they seem too often to lie claiming they will do a good job to get a pay but when it comes to delivering the work effectiveness promises they start to quote established polices.. buck passing excuses.

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/it-should-be-an-election-issues/

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Oppressors or Bullies are always unacceptable

Posted in family, News & politics, Religious discussions Christianity, tagged Abuse, Abused, Abusers, Abuses, Bible teachings, Bullies, Christian, Christian ebooks, CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP, Christianity, Church, Deacons, elders, god, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Jesus Christ, oppressions, oppressors, pastors, Religious Bullies, Religious discussions Christianity | Tagged Bible on December 3, 2010 | 6 Comments »

It has been amazing to me that, as I look back into my own life, half of the oppressions I have witnessed in my life, and any oppression all of it tends to be an unacceptable human rights abuse now too, all oppressions are still unacceptable , these oppressions now came from the least expected places, from the Bullies within the church , even from bad pastors, bad elders, bad deacons, and also within my related control freaked or despotic family members, all now proving to me that many of these professing Christians persons were still not real Christians in fact. The other half of the oppressions, and all of it too was unacceptable, came from the attempted silencers,demonic led persons too, fellow employees, bad contacts, acquaintances, neighbour, civil and public servants, cops, RCMP.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/

The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/hated/

(Exo 3:9 KJV) Now therefore, behold, the cry of the children of Israel is come unto me: and I have also seen the oppression wherewith the Egyptians oppress them.

(Deu 26:7 KJV) And when we cried unto the LORD God of our fathers, the LORD heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression:

(Judg 2:18 KJV) And when the LORD raised them up judges, then the LORD was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the LORD because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.

(2 Ki 13:4 KJV) And Jehoahaz besought the LORD, and the LORD hearkened unto him: for he saw the oppression of Israel, because the king of Syria oppressed them.

(2 Ki 13:22 KJV) But Hazael king of Syria oppressed Israel all the days of Jehoahaz.

(Job 36:15 KJV) He delivereth the poor in his affliction, and openeth their ears in oppression.

(Psa 9:9 KJV) The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

(Psa 10:18 KJV) To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress.

(Psa 12:5 KJV) For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

(Psa 42:9 KJV) I will say unto God my rock, Why hast thou forgotten me? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?

(Psa 43:2 KJV) For thou art the God of my strength: why dost thou cast me off? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?

(Psa 44:24 KJV) Wherefore hidest thou thy face, and forgettest our affliction and our oppression?

(Psa 55:3 KJV) Because of the voice of the enemy, because of the oppression of the wicked: for they cast iniquity upon me, and in wrath they hate me.

(Psa 62:10 KJV) Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.

(Psa 72:4 KJV) He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.

(Psa 73:8 KJV) They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

(Psa 103:6 KJV) The LORD executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

For the record, I hate bullies. All kinds. Whether they are school yard, high school, workplace, cyber (internet) and yes, I have a special place for hell for those religious bullies.

http://lifeafterwcg2.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/this-man-is-a-bully-and-needs-to-be-treated-as-such/

For the record both religious and non religious bullies have the same source of inspiration, the devil.. Bully Cain Killed Abel because he was of the evil one.

***By the way juast as true and IMPORTANT IS THAT the Divorcing spouse who will not let her spouse visit or acess their children is also a bully, she is a control freak who herself firstly needs to be helped. *****

SOME PEOPLE ESPECIALY THE UNREPENTANT ONES THEY STILL REALLY DO HATE TO HEAR, READ THE TRUTH FOR IT RIGHTFULLY MAKES THEM FEEL SHAMED, DISGUSTED WITH THEMSELVES, THE STILL BAD PASTORS, BAD COPS, BAD MALE AND FEMALE SPOUSES ESPECIALLY.. THEY ARE IN OSTRICH DENIAL..

Hey I expect to be hated for telling the truth here too, most people hate to hear the truth about themselves, for they are in denial, such as the bad wife bashing her husband who still cannot see she firstly likley is doing the things she accuses him of doing in reality http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/hated/

Can people now still next change on their own for the Better, very unlikely without God’s direct input. Most people have to learn the realy hard way.

DO SEE

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/lies-slander-personal-defamation-on-the-net-be-warned/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/12/04/free-christian-ebooks-ocean-city-blog-pass-it-on/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/religious-bullies/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/

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