Should Politicaly correct persons or Ostriches be tolerated in the Church

(Prov 28:1 KJV)  The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.

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(Jer 9:6 KJV) Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.;

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(Deu 27:18 KJV) Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.19 Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen

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(Eph 4:28 KJV) Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

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(1 Cor 11:31 KJV) For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. (Mat 18:14 KJV) Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. (John 12:27 KJV) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

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And.. “50% of Sermons Are Not Biblical” Preaching the Gospel is not acceptable to living it. All pastors still do need to read the Bible for one hour a day at least, and pray for one hour a day at least. Almost 80 % of them do not. At least 50 percent of Church and TV, Internet sermons thus are unbiblical because most pastors do not use or read the Bible itself. Great, big Church pastors even steal their sermons from others as I have witnessed firsthand too. I interviewed personally 45 evangelical pastors in one city,  , and none of them even used the Bible in their counseling ministry with their members and adherents. We have too many impostors, hirelings in the Ministry, bad persons not directly called by God to minister and that is why they also do cheat, lie, steal, commit adultery, tax evasions and abuse others, slander as well.

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I was sitting in my local church  two years when God spoke to me directly and said you really do not love this Pastor. Indignantly I replied “Lord what do you mean? I am sitting in his service”. God replied “you tolerate him but you do not love him for if that was your local past pastor in Montreal and he had sinned you would have rightfully ran into his office and asked him to repent, and this other pastor has now been sinning, lying, stealing, abusing others, even for years as you know and you have done nothing about it”. I replied “Lord God you are right please forgive me. And God help this pastor to repent”. A few days later God said now go to speak to the pastor and ask him to repent. But God I prayed you would do that, help him repent and God replied I am going to use you to answer your prayers.

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Sadly this was not the first or the last pastor in Canada that I have personal gone to face to face and asked them next, now to rightfully repent of their now too many wrong doings here on earth, and the majority of them did not. Most of them 90% next were removed as pastors next by God directly, even original church founders too.

And during this persecution that tends to follow when the likely unloving Pastor refuses to repent, likely 90 percent of them still, the same persecution that is not ordained by God still God shows us his love, clearly God speaks to us personally as to how much he loves us inspire of the negative fact others do not.. God loves us. That is important even above all that God loves us.,, and we love him cause he first loved us.

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John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

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(Psalm 73:6 KJV) Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment. (Psa 124:1 If it had not been the LORD who was on our side, now may Israel say; 2 If it had not been the LORD who was on our side, when men rose up against us: 3 Then they had swallowed us up quick, when their wrath was kindled against us: (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Mal 2:16 KJV) For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously. (2 Pet 2:14 KJV) Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: (Mal 2:1 KJV) And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

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(Gal 5:19 KJV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. (Titus 3:10 KJV) A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. (Hosea 4:6 KJV) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. (Ezek 22:27 KJV) Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. (Zep 3:3 KJV) Her princes within her are roaring lions; her judges are evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow. (Mat 7:15 KJV) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (Mat 10:16 KJV) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. (Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (Ezek 22:29 KJV) The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.

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(Nahum 1:3 KJV) The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

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(Mat 18:5 KJV) And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

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(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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To overcome, means to overcome the personal sins even the sins of tolerating, allowing all divorces and wrongfully too, relationship divorces included, the sins of abusing others..

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(Mat 12:33 KJV) Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. (1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

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 (2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

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(Mat 5:13 KJV) Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

(Acts 17:30 KJV) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

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(Acts 3:19 KJV) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, (Luke 12:59 KJV) I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.

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God still judges all people for what they do here on earth, and abusing another person is not a sin that God accepts lightly, even if you are a Pastor, elder, leader.. . Personal Repentance is always in order even for the evangelical pastors now too , yes as well as for those who do too often show a bad example by tax evasions, abusing others, counseling divorce now as well.  Even if your pastor. elder, priest is the one that is sinning now rebuke him but in love.. if you do not rebuke him it is likely cause you do not love him too. (Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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(Psa 51:1 KJV) A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came unto him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. 2 Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. 3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. 4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.

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When was the last time you rightfuly had asked a church leader, pastor, elder, deacons, to now personaly repent of their sins? Never? why? God is not a respector of persons!

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‎1 John 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. (2 Tim 1:7 KJV)  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. (Luke 12:47 KJV)  And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. … Luke 19:20  And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin: 21  For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. :22  And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: 23  Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury? 24  And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.:25  (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.) 26  For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

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MANY PERSONS ARE LAZY, SLOTHFUL IN REALITY AND HAVE FALSE EXCUSE FOR NOT FOLLOWING FULLY AFTER GOD

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do see also

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/how-do-you-recognize-if-a-person-is-a-true-christian-or-what-is-a-christian/

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Messianic Jews, Judaizers Seventh day Adventist

If I eat meat, can I still claim to be a vegetarian? No, of course not!

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Could you be Christian and DENY Jesus? NO

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SO WITH THE Same logic. You can’t be Jewish, a Jew  and also now EMBRACE Jesus.

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What a realy mess this all is.

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YOU ARE A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN AND BUT  NOT BOTH FOR   BEING JEWISH MEANS FOLLOWING THE JEWISH RELIGION AND NOT THE CHRISTIAN RELGION.

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If someone born to a Jewish mother who  embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT nopw  a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They now are either a  New Testament Christian, or a Old testament Jew..

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The ‘messianic Jews’ now are   just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN.

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Do you even rightfuly firstly  understand that Christianity teaches that Judaism is the ‘old’ covenant which Christianity has  replaced?

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Thus nobody today can follow both religions; for they are mutually exclusive.

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Messianic Jews are still just as much Jews as anything and not the real Christians of Jesus  Christ. Seventh day Adventism, Judaizers, Messianic Jew want to have one foot in Hell, Judaism, and one foot in Heaven, Christianity,. Impossible.

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I respect Christians but I don’t respect ‘messianic Jews’ because they lie claiming they are both jews and Christians.. give it up, you are one or the other.

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All Jewish people, Messianic ones too  can only be saved the same way as Gentiles can, by grace through faith in Jesus without the works of the law OF MOSES WHICH WAS DONE AWAY AFTER JESUS CHRIST CAME AND DIES ON THE CROSS

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I agree that once you accept Jesus, you’re a Christian and no longer a Jew or a messianic Jew.

Messianic Jews, Judaizers Seventh day Adventists do now still have more in common with the Jews than the true Christians

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Christians are NOT ‘or ever will be the restored Jews’ or the new Jews, they are only still the true Christians.,

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YOU really CANNOT BE of the JEWISH relgion and EMBRACE JESUS. It is as simple as that.

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The Influence of the Hebrew Roots movement (HRM) has grown by leaps and bounds over the last century in America. It’s impact in this end time is being felt in all areas of Christendom of those who call Jesus Lord. For those who are Born of the Spirit, if they are Bereans and study the scriptures comparing this movement with the Gospel given to the NT church, they would see bright flashing danger signs. Sad to say, many are being deceived.
The Hebrew Roots Movement which encompasses Messianic Judaism and both in fact are one and the same, just packaged differently in order to deceive more people, is gaining momentum in these last days. While Messianic Judaism is more Christ oriented, it is really just a stepping stone to the HRM. Many Jews who have accepted Christ as Messiah, are attempting as the Jewish Christians in the early church, to mesh Grace with Judaism under the Old Covenant, making all inclusive with one another the Works of the Law, as well as the ordinances, such as the Sabbath and other holy days and combining them with Christianity. The great Apostle Paul had much to say about this in his letters to the early church. Read the book of Galatians where Paul addresses this heresy and warns the early church that if they follow this teaching, they have fallen from grace.
http://www.angelfire.com/la/jlush/dangersHRM.html

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A SCRIPTURAL VIEW OF MESSIANIC JUDAISM Exposing the heresy of the demonic Messianic Jew movement

1. The apostle Paul, a Jew said, “I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW” (1 Cor. 9:20).

2. “ALL WHO RELY ON OBSERVING THE LAW ARE UNDER A CURSE” (Gal. 3:10).

3. “CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW” (Gal. 3:13).

4. “NOW THAT FAITH HAS COME, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW” (Gal. 3:25).

5. “YOU HAVE BEEN SEVERED FROM CHRIST, YOU WHO ARE SEEKING TO BE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE” (Gal. 5:4).

6. “IF YOU ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT YOU ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW” (Gal. 5:18).

7. “WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS, IT SPEAKS TO THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW (Jews who are not born again)” (Rom. 3:19).

8. “THOSE WHO ARE CIRCUMCISED [JEWS] DO NOT EVEN KEEP THE LAW THEMSELVES” (Gal. 6:11).

9. “IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COULD BE GAINED THROUGH [KEEPING] THE LAW, CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!” (Gal. 2:21).

10. “GENTLES…DO NOT HAVE THE LAW…THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LAW” (Rom. 2:14) (Gentiles never have and never will have the Law.)

11. “NO ONE WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS IN HIS [GOD'S] SIGHT BY OBSERVING THE LAW” (Rom. 3:20).

12. “SIN SHALL NOT BE YOUR MASTER, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE [Grace is the God-given desire and power to do His will]” (Rom. 6:14).

13. “WE HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE LAW SO THAT WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE OLD WAY OF THE WRITTEN CODE” (Rom. 7:6).

14. “CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW … FOR EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES” (Rom. 10:4).

15. THE LAW IS “THE MINISTRY OF DEATH…[AND] CONDEMNATION” (2 Cor. 3:7 & 9).

16. “AVOID FOOLISH CONTROVERSIES AND GENEALOGIES AND STRIFE AND DISPUTES ABOUT THE [MOSAIC] LAW, FOR THEY ARE UNPROFITABLE AND WORTHLESS” (Titus 3:9).

http://www.bethelministries.com/MESSIANIC_JEWS.htm

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Paul, said that “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28).
  Christian Zionism as a FALSE man made theology AND in its basic starting points does not discriminate between a very small Remnant of physical Israel who HAD accepted Christ and came entirely out of the Old Covenant shadows, and ALSO  the large majority who rejected Christ and still reject him.

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By Christian Zionism ADVOCATES  I am not talking only about JEWS, BUT John Hagee and his Christians United For Israel (CUFI), but about the entire FALSE theology of John Darby, C.I. Scofield, Lewis S. Chafer, Hal Lindsey and many other celebrities.
http://halfback.posterous.com/some-old-testament-texts-on-the-transformatio

 

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WHO IS JESUS CHRIST – IS HE A JEW, GENTILE OR NEITHER NOW?
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/who-is-jesus-christ-is-he-a-jew-gentile-or-neither-now/

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What does the word chosen mean in the Bible?
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

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About those Jews, persons who still falsely refuse to acknowledge openly Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

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- Even Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/tag/jesus-christ/

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-Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven..
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/now-how-did-moses-abraham-the-great-jewish-patriarchs-next-make-it-to-heaven/

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Falsely “Torah-observant” -Jewish and Gentile Messianic Judaism
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/falsely-torah-observant-jewish-and-gentile-messianic-judaism/

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Zionism, Zionists, Jews, Israel
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

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Jesus the Jewish Messiah rule of Israel basically is not detailed in the New Testament. Non existent..

Part of the revelation given to Paul by Christ was that physical Israel, the Jews, were no longer the chosen people because of their bloodline. Paul expresses this part of his revelation in Galatians 3: 3-7, After the Cross, though, the chosen bloodline teaching itself became anti-Christ. Romans 2: 28-29: “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” Paul is saying that anyone of any race becomes a true Jew by the Spirit, by having the Spirit in his heart.  We know that at a time earlier than the time of Christ that the northern tribes were called Israel and the southern tribes Judah, or Jews. But in the first century when the New Testament was written, the term Israel and Jews referred to the same people.  And interestingly John in Revelation 2: 9 and 3: 9 supports what Paul says about a true Jew being anyone who is led by the Spirit. The teaching of Christian Zionism that all physical Israel, the Jews, now remain the chosen people, is part of the strong delusion of II Thessalonians 2: 10-12 and of the snare of Luke 21: 35. 
http://northwye.blog.co.uk/2012/11/01/paul-s-revelation-from-jesus-christ-is-opposed-by-christian-zionist-theology-15153737/
 

Jesus the Jewish Messiah who will restablish the nation of Osrael is still basically is not detailed  in the New Testament.

Why is that the role of Jesus the Jewish  Messiah is not detailed at all in the New Testament and the word Messiah is   mentioned only 2 times  in the new testament..

(John 1:41 KJV)  He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

(John 4:25 KJV)  The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.  26   Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

still there is no detailed  Testament definition of the Messiah now too. ..;

Most Jews thus believe that Jesus really could not be the Messiah of the Old Testament; even of he claimed  to be so..

Basically identity of Jesus as being the Messiah is kept secret, except to chosen disciples.The story in the Gospel of Matthew[ account tells of the "Wise Men" or "Magi" who brought gifts to the infant Jesus after following a star which they believed was a sign that the Messiah, or King of the Jews, had been born. The Gospels state that Jesus is the Messiah,] “Son of God”,[, and "Lord and God,, sent to "give his life as a ransom for many" and "preach the good news of the kingdom of God."

(Luke 2:11 KJV)  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

(John 1:41 KJV)  He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

(John 20:31 KJV)  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Jews and Christians seem to have a difference of views as to what the messiah will do now too .Many Messianic Jews and Christian thus belive that the role of Jesus the Messiah will only be fulfilled in the millennium reign of Christ, but is this true, is there a new testament substantiation of it. No and why is that?

The central theme for the Jews of the Old Testament Holy Books is the coming of the Messiah and the establishment of the Kingdom of God among people

According to the old testament Jews and their traditions  “The word "Messiah" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a concept that has no basis in the Jewish thought “The Messiah will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The Messiah is often referred to as "Messiah ben David" (Messiah, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments. (Isaiah 11:2-5) He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being…The Messiah will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).”;  The world after the Messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term "messianic age" to refer specifically to the time of the Messiah. Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people. (Isaiah 2:4) Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.

All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated. In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish God as the only true God, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9). There will be no murder, robbery, competition or jealousy. There will be no sin (Zephaniah 3:13). Sacrifices will continue to be brought in the Temple, but these will be limited to thanksgiving offerings, because there will be no further need for expiatory offerings.”  Jews do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. or that  he simply did not fulfill the mission of the Messiah as it is described in the biblical passages here cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the Jewish scriptures said the Messiah would do. According to their iinterpretation

“THE CRITERIA TO BE FULFILLED BY THE JEWISH MESSIAH

In an accurate translation of the Jewish Scriptures, the word "Moshiach" is never translated as "Messiah," but as "anointed."
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by God to the Jews, Jewish tradition is supposedly now  best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation also  in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.

These specific Old Testament criteria are as follows:

1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy 17:15, Numbers 24:17)

2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct male descendent of both King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalm 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon. (I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)

3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)

4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)

5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)

6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)

All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in the book of Ezekiel chapter 37:24-28:

"And My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant...and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever."

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, he according to the basic Jews cannot be the Messiah.”
http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

Obviously for many Jews and Messianic Jews the Jesus of Christianity did not fulfill these requirements Many Messianic Jews and Christian thus believe that the role of Jesus the Messiah will only be fulfilled in the millennium reign of Christ, but is this true, is there a New Testament substantiation of it. No and why is that?

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

The Jews had looked and looked mainly for a restoration of the former glory of the nation of Israel while Jesus clearly said his kingdom was not of this world. The Jews mostly still were not concerned about getting to Heaven cause they had it made as they were supposedly the chosen ones now..but even this is no true according the new testament.

" Lord, speak to me and I will obey. I know, Lord, that I cannot do anyithing in my strength, but only by Your indwelling strength, the Holy Spirit who  will enable me. Speak, Lord, Your servant is listening." Is this also now your prayer?

At Mount Sinai God told Moses as to how He would proceed to put the children of Israel in possession of their promised inheritance. He would not drive out the inhabitants of the land “in one year”; but He said, “little by little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.” And He God next goes on to say that He would set the bounds of their possession “from the desert unto the river” (Euphrates), and would “deliver the inhabitants of the land” into their hand, and they should “drive them out” before them (Ex. 23:27-31).

Joshua 1:8 ... This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.   “Behold, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them” (Deut. 1:6-8).

“Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be” (Deut. 11:24).   “And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).   And the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ   “For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith” Romans 4:13

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7.   , “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:29   “And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations, and ye have said unto Him, Nay, but set a king over us” (1 Sam. 10:17-19).   Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/now-why-was-jesus-even-so-angry-with-the-pharisees/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/messianic-judaism-today/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/criticism-of-israel-is-not-anti-semitic/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/what-the-canadian-conservatives-do-not-say-about-israel/

The Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah, the Savior of the World,do show they  they were fulfilled in the Lord Jesus Christ and in the New Testament Church.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/falsely-torah-observant-jewish-and-gentile-messianic-judaism/

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Pentecost

On the Day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit fell upon the assembled believers and “all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues” (Acts 2:4). Later, as Peter was preaching at the house of Cornelius, “the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message” and they were “speaking in tongues and praising God” (Acts 10:44, 46). Again, as the apostle Paul was ministering to the Ephesian disciples, “the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied” (Acts 19:6). It is evident also that Paul himself was filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:17) and spoke in tongues (1 Corinthians 14:18). These Scriptures clearly show that speaking in tongues is the initial physical evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit.The norm was, is that all once baptized in the Holy Spirit do speak in tongues..

The Bible itself must be the conformation source of establishing the present-day validity of speaking in tongues.

Jesus confirmed it

Mark 16:15-17 He [Jesus] said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues.

“Why do many persons speak in tongues?” is that Jesus endorsed the practice.

Jesus had said that speaking in tongues is one of the signs that “will accompany those who believe.”

Acts 1:4-5; 2:1-4, KJV And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence…. [2:1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Those persons who have received this baptism with the Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in tongues, have generally in modern times been called “

Pentecostals“.

We can see that the Bible uses the terms “baptized with the Holy Ghost” and “filled with the Holy Ghost” as synonyms for the same biblical experience. And the discernible evidence of that baptism with the Holy Spirit was their speaking in tongues.

Acts 1:5 (KJV) — “John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.” Jesus made a clear distinction between

water baptism and baptism with the Holy Spirit. They thus are not one and the same.

Acts 10:44-47 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said, “Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.”

Now how did Peter and his companions know that they had received “the gift of the Holy Spirit”? The answer is in verse 46: “FOR they heard them speaking in tongues.” Again, as in Acts 2, the evidence of their having received the gift of the Holy Spirit was their speaking in tongues.

In Act 1 and 2 we saw the first group in Jerusalem being “baptized with…filled with the Holy Spirit.” Peter certified that these Gentiles in Acts 10 had received the identical experience — “They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.” So Acts 2, the first New Testament day of Pentecost, was not a one-time occurrence. To the contrary, Peter asserts that these Gentiles had received the identical gift of the Holy Spirit.

Peter recounts this again in Acts 11:15-17 — “As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning. Then I remembered what the Lord had said: ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ So if God gave them the same gift as he gave us, who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could oppose God?” The Gentiles in Acts 10 received the “same gift,” the same baptism with the Holy Spirit, that the 120 had received in Jerusalem in Acts. And in both instances they manifested the identical evidence — they immediately spoke in tongues.

Peter also now made a clear distinction between water baptism and their having received the Holy Spirit.

Acts 19:1-6 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized into the

name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.

So there is a consistent bible pattern — believers who are baptized with/

filled with the Holy Spirit will immediately speak in tongues.

These three clear illlustrations certify that speaking in tongues is the Scriptural evidence of the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
KJV: …as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Why speak in tongues? — It gives us an ever-present opportunity to submit to the leading, the direction, the enablement of the Holy Spirit.

This humble, willing submission of our vocal organs to the Holy Spirit’s leading will stand us in good stead as we open ourselves to other facets of the Holy Spirit’s direction and guidance.

The baptism with the Holy Spirit opens the door to other

spiritual gifts from the Holy Spirit — here, “they…prophesied.”

Acts 19:2a, 6 [Paul] asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” … [6] When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.

Jesus Himself was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:20). But at about age 30 at River Jordan, Jesus was anointed and empowered by the Holy Spirit (John 1:32-33 with Acts 10:38). Only after this distinct experience of the Spirit did Jesus do his first miracle at the wedding feast of Cana (John 2:11).

It is the Holy Spirit anointing, which comes in the baptism with the Spirit, that tends to release in the recipients a greater flow in the gifts of the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:7, 10 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good… [10] to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

The companion gifts of the Spirit — tongues and interpretation of tongues — are manifested

in church services “for the [church’s] common good.”

1 Corinthians 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.

There is an ability to speak in tongues (glossolalia) that is given to all who receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 14:2 gives us an additional reason why Spirit-baptized believers should speak in tongues — “Anyone who speaks in a tongue … speak[s] … to God.”

Acts 19:2a, 6 [Paul] asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” … [6] When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.

Jesus Himself was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:20). But at about age 30 at River Jordan, Jesus was anointed and empowered by the Holy Spirit (John 1:32-33 with Acts 10:38). Only after this distinct experience of the Spirit did Jesus do his first miracle at the wedding feast of Cana (John 2:11).

It is the Holy Spirit anointing, which comes in the baptism with the Spirit, that tends to release in the recipients a greater flow in the gifts of the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:7, 10 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good… [10] to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

The companion gifts of the Spirit — tongues and interpretation of tongues — are manifested in church services “for the [church’s] common good.”

1 Corinthians 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.

There is an ability to speak in tongues (glossolalia) that is given to all who receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 14:2 gives us an additional reason why Spirit-baptized believers should speak in tongues — “Anyone who speaks in a tongue … speak[s] … to God.”

Historically, speaking in a tongue (glossolalia) by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit was common among Christians in the first-century Church. . Subsequent movements in which speaking in tongues was a prominent feature included the Latter Rain revival, the mid-20th-century healing ministries, the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship, and the Charismatic Renewal. By the early 21st century, speaking in tongues (the theological term is glossolalia) — that is, languages unknown to the speaker, given by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit — had become broadly accepted within worldwide Christianity;

God who is love demonstrated it to the world in Christ Jesus but is expereinced by the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Now as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
Jesus abided in the love of God, the holy spirit, so should we all (John 14:21 KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.24 He that loveth me not keepeth “not” my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which “sent me”.John 14:23-24 King James Version (KJV)

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.John 12:48

Too many persons now re are listening to the devil over me, Jesus the Holy Spirit and God, and the very sad thing was I used to be just like that , even for decades an evangelical Baptist trying to do the things even my way, until I finally surrendered to Jesus and said to Him “Lord what is it you want from, me”? and he said Jesus now said “want you to go to a Pentecostal church and there get Baptized in the spirit” and my life was very very dramatically changed from that time on, I have even learned how to hear the voices of God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, prayed for the sick in hospitals and the got cured, and God by his choice next appointed me, made me his Minister, his pastor for the last 3 decades now too.. I have asked many a pastor to repent too, now I have, have had a dramatic ministry, effect on many. Compared to the nothing I had before all this. The Holy Spirit is co-equal with the Father and the Son of God. He is firstly present in the world to make all people aware of their need for personal salvation Jesus Christ. He next also lives in every Christian from the moment of their actual salvation but they can grieve him still and reduce his effectiveness, . He the holy Spirit provides all of the Holy spirit filed Christiana who have now accept Jesus as Lord with power for living, understanding of spiritual truths, and guidance in doing what is right etc.. He the Holy Sprit still continues gives every believer a spiritual gift to benefit the body of Christ. He still does wants to empower ALL believers with a spiritual prayer language to give them strength for their daily Christian walk AND TO HELP THEM IN THEIR SPIRITUAL WARFARE BATTLE,S . As Christians, we EACH ONE OF US STILL DO HAVE to live under His control daily and empowerments

OFTEN DO  NOTICE THAT MANY PEOPLE DISTORT THE BIBLE TO TRY TO MAKE THEMSLEVES FIRSTLY FEEL BEETTER

ARE YOU A DISTORTER OF GOD’S WORD   AND YOU DO THAT CAUSE YOU NOW ARE A VERY UNHAPPY, TROUBLED PERSON WITH A GOD SHAPPED VACUMM STILL. .

.(1 John 1:9 KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10   If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Many persons cannot hear God speaking to them cause they are on the wrong channel, they are listening mostly to the devil still so they will go next to Hell with him too. Now today rather Learn how to let God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit speak to you all the time in life

Acts 16:31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. It is interesting as to how many persons falsely as well do now want to believe on the Lord Jesus as their saviour soley, but ignorantly or deliberately they do not want to accept him as their Christ, the Aointed one, the  Baptizer of the Holy Spirit..Now  to be saved now you have to accept both firstly.

 

Here are some more great Biblical truths.. and unlike the to many false preachers, hirelings we have these days all of the material below is free, and no donations asked for too..

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/in-the-last-days-perilous-times-shall-come/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/anointed-christian-believers/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/laying-of-hands-impartation-breathe-of-the-spirit-anointings-anointed/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/once-saved-always-saved-can-you-still-lose-your-salvation-in-jesus-christ/

 
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/they-realy-have-not-been-baptized-yet-by-the-lord-jesus-christ-and-his-holy-spirit/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/they-ceased-not-to-teach-and-preach-jesus-christ/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/the-power-in-the-name-of-jesus/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/some-people-are-realy-lucky-they-experience-jesus/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/are-you-a-real-christian/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/christian-or-not/

 
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/the-gift-of-discernment/
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http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/pride-leads-to-destruction-and-humility-to-honour-what-motivates-many-persons-these-days/


http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/the-ostrich-form-of-christianity-that-contradicts-the-bible/


http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/t-is-better-to-hear-the-rebuke-of-the-wise-than-for-a-man-to-hear-the-song-of-fools/


http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/god-still-speaks-outside-of-the-bible-as-well/


http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/god-speaks/

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How do you recognize if a person is a true Christian, or what is a Christian? “

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Fishers of men”…”believers”…”Christians”  These are  names that describe the  people who have been redeemed by Jesus and Baptized in the Holy Spirit, had committed themselves to live fully for Him

God who is love demonstrated it to the world in Christ Jesus John 3:16 but is experienced by the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Now as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

Jesus abided in the love of God, the holy spirit, so should we all

(John 14:21 KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth “not” my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which “sent me”.John 14:23-24 King James Version (KJV)

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.John 12:48

Matt 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

ASK JESUS CHRIST THE BAPTIZER IN THE HOLY SPIRIT TO BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND FILL YOU WITH THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IN JESUS NAME,

Eph. 2:10. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

 

We are not saved by the observance, or keeping of law, but we are saved and helped, equipped by the Holy Spirit to be obedient and to keep the law, which rather  is God’s Character! So now do be also continually filled with the Holy Spirit.
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

We have now in Christendom have one faith, One Bible, one God, one Jesus Christ, one Church, One Holy Spirit, but we seem to have many different personal definitions of what a Christian is.. and why is that now? but in reality a Pentecostal Christian is the only valid, true definition of what a Christian is. Many persons believe in Jesus Christ but does that now make them even Christian? (Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leaded to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

I know of three essential Christian truths for a start
1: sinful, unrepentant man is going to hell
2: Jesus Christ saves, heals, delivers, etc., all those who come to him on his terms.
3: Jesus also baptizes us with the Holy Spirit.

(Luke 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Like in all Major Christian issues, the Full Gospel, Salvation, Healing, Prophecy, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, tongues, Spiritual gifts, Faith, Giving Alms to the poor and even the Tithing are now too often not being Biblically, being fully, honestly presented in most places, in most churches, on the net too.

Forget that the word Christ, Greek Christos is the historical basis of all believers being now called Christians for 2000 years.. add your own man made definition, biblical misinterpretation of what a Christian is and thus you do not have to agree with God’s definition ehh.. and what no one wants to admit that now is more unaccepted lies, perversities too.

Some people now do not believe in the Baptism of the Holy spirit as a second separate experience but may even belive in evangelism a word, incidentally, not found as such in the Scripture This tends to shows how they and you pick and chose what you will believe sill too? But still Salvation is multidimensional. Its basic and primary meaning includes sozo, healed, saved, delivered, the manifestations of the charismatics gifts of the holy spirit.

(2 Cor 1:21 KJV) Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Acts 11:19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only. 20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus. :21 And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord. 22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch. 23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord. 24 For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord. 25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. 27 And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. 28 And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. 29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea: 30 Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.

ANTIOCH was the second most mentioned city in the Acts of the Apostles and the third city of importance in the Roman Empire; This landmark of Syria, because of its location, size and importance in the Roman Empire, moved to be the second center of Christianity.

Now previously they called each other, “brethren”, “disciples”, “apostles”, “servants”, “believers”, “followers”, “the faithful”, “the elect”, “the called”, and “saints;.”bondservants” of Christ. It is noteworthy that our Lord Jesus Christ he never gave any name to his people; he called them disciples, which signifies pupils, learners. The apostles have applied to the Church, the Christians various terms, such as “church of the living God;” “church of God;” “church of Christ;” “the church;” but gradually they became know under the name “Christians,”

(Christian) occurs but three times in the New Testament,;; SEEN ALSO IN

(Acts 26:28 KJV) Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

1 Peter 4: 14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters. 16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. (KJV)

The disciples owned their dependence upon Christ, and all of their receiving from him; not only that they believed in him who is the anointed, but that through him they themselves had the anointing,

1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. :27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man

And God is said to have anointed us in Christ,
2 Cor 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; 22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Remembering that the believers in Antioch spoke Greek and any reference to Jesus would be used in its Greek form, Christ. The suffix “ian” is actually Latin, implying that it was the Roman officials who first took the Greek, Christ, and added a Latin ending to the term and began referring to the followers of Christ as Christian.

but some even so called Christians they do still chose parts of the Bible that they falsely pick over other parts and they chose what they will belive and still say they are Christians while neglecting the full gospel of Jesus Christ. They like you them are deceived. So as who t now realy were now do you speak in tongues, and have you learned to listen yet to voice of God as well.. or are you merely still using their mind, or listening , parroting what others say

The many professing Christen Biblical contradictions firstly do lie in the own clear Biblical ignorance and the clear lack of a real DEPTH, lack of a real personal relationship with God, Jesus and the holy spirit firstly. Pretentious Christians they are too much of a fool still to even now try to correct me or try to bash, me teach others.. for if they say they are Christ like then they have been anointed with the Holy Sprit like Christ our example was in acts 10:38. and thus they and you can pray, speak in tongues, as well as lay hands on the sick and they will recover..

JESUS ALSO RELIED FULLY ON GOD’S HELP, LEADING. (John 5:19 KJV) Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.(John 5:30 KJV) I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

I really do rightfully get upset with any and all of the Bible distorters, legalists, Judaizers, Seventh day Adventists who try to mislead God’s Christians and others. They clearly and falsely use the flesh, pride to try to attain their spiritual things, their accomplishment while Jesus clearly had said (John 15:5 KJV) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. I rightfully do have very little respect for the people who come even here now and even do demand that we follow after their teachings, that obey the law as they define it too

Too many persons now re are listening to the devil over me, Jesus the Holy Spirit and God, another false self centered persons, an attention seeker, cause they seem to have a big void in your life, that troubles them, they do not have the love of God, the holy spirit in their big god shaped vacuum,
So accept Jesus Christ as Lord, get Baptized in the Holy spirit, pray in tongues and get real joy like i did I see you talk too much and do very real listening now to God.. no wonder you are ill, lost, unsaved. MT 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

Now when I see people start to use Jewish titles for Jesus, being ashamed to mention the name Jesus the Christ directly, I realy start to belive that they too now have gone of the deep end.. THEY ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS LOOING FOR PERSONAL HAPPINESS

I see many people talk too much and do very real listening now to God.. no wonder they are ill, lost, unsaved too

RATHER TOO OFTEN can see still another false self centered persons, an attention seeker, and not a true Christian cause they still do have a big void in your life, that troubles them, for they do not have the love of God, the holy spirit in their big god shaped vacuum, they all must accept Jesus Christ as Lord, get Baptized in the Holy spirit, pray in tongues and get real joy like I did
Matt 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

ASK JESUS CHRIST THE BAPTIZER IN THE HOLY SPIRIT TO BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND FILL YOU WITH THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH IN JESUS NAME

Salvation is multidimensional. Its basic and primary meaning includes sozo, healed, saved, delivered, the manifestations of the charismatics gifts of the holy spirit. but some they do chose parts of the Bible that they falsely pick over other parts and they chose what they will belive and still say they are Christians while neglecting the full gospel of Jesus Christ. They like you them are deceived. And do you speak in tongues, and have you learned to listen yet to voice of God as well.. or are you merely still using their mind, or listening , parroting what others say

The many professing Christen Biblical contradictions firstly do lie in the own clear Biblical ignorance and the clear lack of a real DEPTH, lack of a real personal relationship with God, Jesus and the holy spirit firstly. Pretentious Christians they are too much of a fool still to even now try to correct me or try to bash, me teach others.. for if they say they are Christ like then they have been anointed with the Holy Sprit like Christ our example was in acts 10:38. and thus they and you can pray, speak in tongues, as well as lay hands on the sick and they will recover..

OFTEN DO NOTICE THAT MANY PEOPLE DISTORT THE BIBLE TO TRY TO MAKE THEMSELVES FIRSTLY FEEL BETTER
ARE YOU A DISTORTER OF GOD’S WORD AND YOU DO THAT CAUSE YOU NOW ARE A VERY UNHAPPY, TROUBLED PERSON WITH A GOD SHAPED VACUUM STILL. .

.(1 John 1:9 KJV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

MANY PREACHERS WEAR EXPENSIVE CLOTHS LIVE IN EXPENSIVE HOUSES DRIVE EXPENSIVE CARS ON THE MONEY YOU GIVE THEM CAUSE BASICALLY THEY ARE REALY MISERABLE, LOOKING FOR A HAPPINESS THEY WILL NEVER HAVE CAUSE THEY REJECTED GOD’S WAY.. WHEN I AM HAPPY I LIKE TO WEAR CASUALS

YES I have often wondered why so many people add to or try to take away from what the Word of God, the Bible, Jesus and the Holy Spirit do Say.. Now are they really listening to the voice of God or to the voice of the devil now? why do they listen to the devils voice over God is it due to their false, selfish pride, the need to do one’s own thing? it sure seems so.. It falsely still appeals to one’s flesh one being able to earn one’s salvation or to add to it.

One of the first thing I want you now also to notice is that Jesus and the Apostles confirm all the essential doctrines from the old testament in the new testament.. those not mentioned by them are not basic essential Christian doctrines.. and not rather past traditions or past opinion of mere men.. and most honest Biblical scholars would need to agree to this?
http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/a-sabbath-rest-or-a-godly-rest/

see also the

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/anointed-christian-believers/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/once-saved-always-saved-can-you-still-lose-your-salvation-in-jesus-christ/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/they-realy-have-not-been-baptized-yet-by-the-lord-jesus-christ-and-his-holy-spirit/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-pentecostal-movement/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/they-ceased-not-to-teach-and-preach-jesus-christ/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/the-power-in-the-name-of-jesus/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/god-speaks/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/falsely-torah-observant-jewish-and-gentile-messianic-judaism/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

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Falsely “Torah-observant” -Jewish and Gentile Messianic Judaism

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7.   , “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:29   “And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations, and ye have said unto Him, Nay, but set a king over us” (1 Sam. 10:17-19).   Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.

” Lord, speak to me and I will obey. I know, Lord, that I cannot do anyithing in my strength, but only by Your indwelling strength, the Holy Spirit who  will enable me. Speak, Lord, Your servant is listening.” Is this also now your prayer?

At Mount Sinai God told Moses as to how He would proceed to put the children of Israel in possession of their promised inheritance. He would not drive out the inhabitants of the land “in one year”; but He said, “little by little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.” And He God next goes on to say that He would set the bounds of their possession “from the desert unto the river” (Euphrates), and would “deliver the inhabitants of the land” into their hand, and they should “drive them out” before them (Ex. 23:27-31).

Joshua 1:8 … This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.   “Behold, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them” (Deut. 1:6-8).

“Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours; from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be” (Deut. 11:24).   “And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).   And the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ   “For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith” Romans 4:13

 

Now when I see people start to use Jewish titles for Jesus, being ashamed to mention the name Jesus the Christ directly, I realy start to belive that they too now have gone of the deep end.. for the devil hates the name of Jesus and so do his followers. I get bothered also by the Christians who do not mention the Holy Spirit often..
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/who-is-jesus-christ-is-he-a-jew-gentile-or-neither-now/

Today when a Christian tells me that they are “Torah-observant” then all kinds of alarms go off. It may be that they are just into Hebrew roots‘ – but usually it is a lot more than that. Bible warns against – losing the “simplicity” of the faith. And that is why Paul was so strong against the Judaizers. He saw that Christians were being tempted – not to place their faith in Christ alone – but rather in Christ PLUS the keeping of the Law. It was no longer a simple trust in JESUS to be their righteousness. They now started to feel they had to keep the letter of the Old Law too – in order to be truly “holy”. And so they became“Judaized”. This is the worst trap possible. And so subtle! http://ttatg.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/return-of-the-judaizers/

It is the blood of jesus and the finished work of the cross.. that the devil denies, tries to obscure even through false relgions, false teachers, false apostles, judiazers (2 Cor 2:11 KJV) Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

The Judaizers were insisting that you could not be saved without adhering to the Jewish law.

The Apostle Peter opposed the Judaizers by reporting on how God poured out His Holy Spirit on the gentiles: “So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why do you test God by putting a yolk on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?” Acts 15:8-10

The Apostle Paul and Barnabas testified to the miraculous works of God among the Gentiles. James pointed out how this was the fulfillment of many prophecies and he declared: “Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality and from things strangled and from blood.” Acts 15:19-20

The conclusion of the Jerusalem Conference is recorded in Acts 15:22-29. In it the Apostles, elders and brethren of the Church in Jerusalem dissociated themselves from the Judaizers who were “unsettling your souls” by requiring observance to Jewish ceremonial law “to whom we gave no such commandment.”

The council decreed: “For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:” to abstain from idolatry, immorality and blood. There is no mention here of the Jewish Sabbath or any of the many distinctiveness being insisted by modern Judaizers.

“So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why do you test God by putting a yolk on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?” Acts 15:8-10

Those who today are seeking to reject our Christian calendar and Reformation heritage and bring us back under Jewish culture and law need to read the words of the Apostle Paul: “O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not… obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of Faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?” Galatians 3:1-3

“Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with the yoke of bondage … and I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from Grace.” Galatians 5:1-4

The Scriptures further teach: “Let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon, or Sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.” Colossians 2:16-17
http://www.christianaction.org.za/articles/Return%20of%20the%20Judaizers.htm

The Modern Judaizers. The particular form of merit which they induced men to seek was the merit of keeping the law of Moses, particularly the ceremonial law.. The really essential thing about the Judaizers’ contention was not found in those particular “works of the law” that they urged upon the Galatians as being one of the grounds of salvation, but in the fact that they urged any works in this sense at all. The really serious error into which they fell was not that they carried the ceremonial law over into the new dispensation whither God did not intend it to be carried, but that they preached a religion of human merit as over against a religion of divine grace.So the error of the Judaizers is a very modern error indeed, as well as a very ancient error. It is found in the modern Church wherever men seek http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/jgmwop.htm

Messianic Judaism is a contradiction in terms because Judaism rejects THE Messiah. There is only one right Messiah who already came in His first coming. Judaism claims it has its own Messiah but it is not the Christ. Christians reject Judaism and Pharisees, so it is wrong for a Christian to call himself a Messianic Judaism Jew or any derivative thereof. If you are a Messianic Judaism Jew you worship a false Christ. The Messiah already came. We do not wait for His first coming but His second coming. Therefore, now you should be a Christian. Period!

Christians are “dead to the law by the body of Christ” (Rom. 7.4). Before being saved a man is “in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death” (v.5) and Hell. Hence, if you live by the law even a law unto yourself, you will die by that law and be eternally separated from God. Such a law might be trying to keep the Sabbath or not eat a certain type of food or performing certain rituals. “But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter” (v.6).

The next time you come across a Messianic Judaizer, simply say you reject their Christ because we are called Christians, not Messianic Judaism Jews or Messianic Judaism Gentiles, for Jesus filled up the law (Matt. 5.17).

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is simple. Jesus paid it all. It is finished , By faith in Jesus Christ’s own works your own salvation has been paid for, thus. you cannot add, pay some more, contribute to any of it..

(2 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Mormons, Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses, Jews, Messianic Jews, Seventh Day Adventist, and many others would like to help the devil and falsely put you back to a legal bondage so you can instead next got to hell with them.

What fool said, “Jesus is Not His Name?” Obviously, not somebody who knows the Scriptures in either the Old or New Testament. ALL OF THE ANCIENT GREEK MANUSCIPTS CALL HIM JESUS. ALL cross references call Jesus by God’s personal na…me in Hebrew which is “YAHWEH”. When Peter, on the Day of Pentecost said, quoting Joel 2: 33 as only one reference to Jesus, said, ‘And it shall be that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved’ (Acts 2: 21), where it says in Hebrew, “For it shall be, all who call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved” (Heb. 3: 32). “Yahweh” is God’s personal name in Hebrew and it is “Jesus” in Greek (‘transliterated from the Greek: ‘Iesous) which means “Yahweh is salvation”. Nothing could be more clearer than that.His name is never “YAHUWSHUWA” which is just about the silliest and stupidest name that has ever been made up. It’s enough to make one laugh and not serious enough to take seriously. It demonstrates a complete lack of any scholarship at all. The English translators of the KJV created a composite name in an attempt to go along with the Jewish tradition of not speaking the Name of Yahweh and when ever they saw “The Name” they will not speak it for fear of being cursed by God, they would say “Lord”. They put together the consonants of Yahweh and the the vowels of Adonai to make up Jehovah which is not really God’s Name. At least they explained why they did it even though it is not accurate. These fools go from on extreme of error to another extreme.
Gordon Williams
http://gordwilliams.com/

The bad fruit of Christian Zionism, JUDIAZERS, SABBATH DAY KEEPERS is that they appears to be a false and strong bid to hijack Biblical Christianity and replace it with Judaism , Acts now that still ARE OPPOSED BY the powerful words and teachings of Paul . The fact of the matter is that there is only one way of salvation. That is through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. God tells us that He is not a respecter of persons, which means that this single salvation plan is for everyone.

Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; 33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumbling stone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed..

No such thing as little bit pregnant here too.. there are very deep rooted issues here.. any one ashamed of using the name of Jesus the Christ makes me realy wonder why and what their real agenda is.. plus in the last decades I have not met one Messianic Jew that was realy Baptized with the holy spirit, and spoke in lounges, plus used the supernatural spiritual gifts.. they may seem to be intellectually inclined to Jesus but not experientially? The devil believes Jesus exist and so what? By their own acts, fruits you tell what anyone else, we are to be fruit inspectors of all professing Christians .. these same people, Judaizers have already been known to have a reputation also of being sheep stealers… for the devil came to rob, kill, destroy

http://biblocality.com/forums/content.php?94-Jewish-and-Gentile-Messianic-Judaizers

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/now-why-was-jesus-even-so-angry-with-the-pharisees/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/a-sabbath-rest-or-a-godly-rest/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/they-ceased-not-to-teach-and-preach-jesus-christ/


http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/the-power-in-the-name-of-jesus/


http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/


http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/


http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/


http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/


http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/


http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/


http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/messianic-judaism-today/


http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/


http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/israels-past-promised-land/


http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/


http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/


http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

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Once Saved Always Saved ? Can you still lose your salvation in Jesus Christ?

(Acts 11:17 KJV) Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

(Acts 16:31 KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

(Rom 13:14 KJV) But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

BAD PASTORS HAVE LIED TO ME AND HAVE SAID THAT THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST IS A LIFE TIME EXPERIENCE .. THESE COWARDS OR FOOLISH VIRGINS NEVER MADE A FULL COMMITMENT. AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DO SO NEVER REPENT DAILY OF THEIR SINS STILL. THE ISSUE WAS IS JESUS THE ACTUAL FULL LORD OF YOUR LIFE OR THE DEVIL

I righfully do have very liitle respect for the  people who demand that we obey the law as they define it too, and they mostly quote the old testament and omit or distort many of  the new testament verses.. and come to us  under false pretences now too..  such as trying to earn their way into heaven by changing others cause they had failed to change themselves it seems now.. they need to get the real Jesus still.. We all do need to get angry at the traditional heresy, lies, falsehoods and to get them out of our brains, as well as being angry with the the people spreading them too frequently !!!

We all Do not accept a “bad check” . So why do some people falsely think that we as Christians now do still have to tolerate and accept in love the bad behavior of any professing Christian if we now are the good Christians? I do NOT tolerate and accept any of the bad that they are doing rather we all should clearly ask them to repent from their wrong doings.

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

(Eph 5:11 KJV) And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

(2 Pet 2:17 KJV) These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

GOD DID NOT SUPPRESS YOUR FREE WILL.. IN FACT 50 PERCENT OF ALL ONCE LOUDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS NEXT DO DEPART WILLINGLY, CONSCIOUSLY FROM THEIR FAITH, A DOG THAT TURNS BACK TO IT’S VOMIT
PEOPLE STILL DO CHOOSE TO GO TO HELL BY THEIR OWN FREE WILL. GOD WILL NOT SEND A BELIEVER TO HELL THE PERSON HE NEXT CHOOSES TO GO THERE

(Phil 2:12 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Ask God to tell you the truth rather than trying to tell me what is the truth too

Now can a Person change themselves? Is there hope for anyone? Some people say that recognition of the problems, obstacles is basically 90 percent of the solution, and I really do also wish that next was true.. Now we all seem to meet all type of persons in real life, the control freaks, verbal and human right abusers, Bullies, enslavers, liars, cheaters, imposters, pretenders, con artists too. And we often simply do wonder why they do not change.. Here also is what I know for sure, the older the person is the more extreme, more severe, the more difficult the punishment has to be on them to cause them to personally to change in their own negative ways, for they are too set in them now too. So someone in your world is doing something you don’t like. It isn’t always that easy. But don’t resort to threats, nagging and browbeating. That usually produces defensiveness, hostility and disharmony. You can live without all that. Change yourself first still too. You mostly Can’t Change Others but you can Change Yourself with God’s help now.

.. 1 Pet 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 Pet 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1 Pet 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Pet 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1 Pet 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Pet 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
1 Pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
1 Pet 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Pet 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
“Many people fervently believe that once saved, they can never lose their salvation.

If a man cannot lose his salvation then why would Jesus say: “When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away”?

Mark 13:13 says: [Jesus said] “ but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.” [NIV ]
If God didn’t want us to be able to choose He would not have given us the gift of freewill. It is this gift which places us above the animals. It is this gift which allows us to choose to either worship God or not worship God. It is this gift, and only this gift, which allows us to truly love Him like a son. It is this gift which proves that ‘once saved, always saved’ must be wrong.

If we are saved in spite of ourselves then there is no freewill. If there is no freewill then the Bible is wrong!

I don’t believe that the Bible is wrong” 
http://www.anointedlinks.com/o
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No matter what view you want to hold here it is undeniable that the people who do not accept the finished work of Jesus Christ ended up in hell. did you lose your salvation next by trying to do it the devils way. Ex 32:33 “The LORD said to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.’”

Mat 10:32 “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.”

Luke 12:8 “And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God”

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/now-how-did-moses-abraham-the-great-jewish-patriarchs-next-make-it-to-heaven/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

http://www.imarc.cc/esecurity/jeffpaton3.html

 

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Now why was Jesus even so angry with the Pharisees

Why was Jesus now also so angry with the Pharisees

Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Proverbs 28:23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.

In reality firstly Jesus had said He was God alone, Mark 14:60-65

The Pharisees were a group of religious hypocrites that were definitely not only misguided, lost, but still were was very serious about demanding others to keep God’s law, keeping the no longer applicable law of Moses over the laws of Jesus Christ. They were trying to make others slaves, even to their own false demands

When Jesus cleared the temple of the moneychangers and animal-sellers, He showed great emotion and anger (Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; John 2:13-22). Jesus’ emotion was described as “zeal” for God’s house (John 2:17). His anger was pure and completely justified because at its root was concern for God’s holiness and worship.

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel,

“He looked around at them in anger, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts” (Mark 3:5).

In reality, these bad religious leaders were, are destroying, killing others even and keeping many people from their personal salvation.

“The Pharisee was standing, praying these things to himself: God, I thank You that I am not as the rest of men, rapacious, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice on the sabbath; I tithe all things, as many as I get” (Luke 18:11-12). “For I testify to them that they have a zeal to God, but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit to the righteousness of God.” Romans 10:2-3 “Watch and take heed from the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducee’s.” Matthew 16:6 “I say to you, This one went down to his house having been justified, rather than that one. For every one exalting himself will be humbled. And the one humbling himself will be exalted” (Luke 18:14)

This is the personal prayer the Pharisees would not pray and mean it as well. “Heavenly Father, I want to know You as the sole, true and living God. I ask you by the finished work of Jesus Christ to forgive me and cleanse me from all, everything I’ve done wrong. Now please do Change my heart, and give me a Holy Sprit empowered, filled new life. Fill me with the power of Your Holy Spirit. I now forever turn from all of the false gods and submit my life to your Son Jesus Christ as my only Savior and Lord.Thank You, Lord Jesus, for paying the penalty for my sins and giving me a relationship of friendship with God as my Heavenly Father

The Pharisees were blind spiritually , and in fact blind guides as He Jesus was what called them. The still ignornant, self centered already dead persons, the Pharisee who always tried to be the center of attention, loved being praised by others, they the Pharisees believed they were now, smart, enlightended totally righteous, because of their own established doctrines, were fully qualified, empowered to dominate, teach others, they still saw no need for any changes in their lives now, for any or all changes needed to be done in other people’s lives and thus also falsely believed that could not next even any lose their own salvation based on their own false established, superior beliefs. Their gospel was a much too simplified one as well being “Lord, I already do believe in you and therefor you next do owe me my salvation.” Yes even today the Modern day Pharisees tend to be the self-righteous holier-than-thous persons, they often do exist now just like they did then at the time of Jesus. There is no real love of God or for God, or love for any others with them, there is just their false continual hatred of all other’s personal beliefs and their own visible large self pride. The Pharisees falsely still worked hard at it praising themselves, yet they themselves would not enter into the kingdom of heaven nor would they allow others to go in there as well.. They are also the control freaks, the persons who try to dominate all others, and often they used Jesus’s Father’s word in vain and id, do spread evil instead of good. They the Pharisees to make themselves look good and fell good continually put down demands on others, hindered placed heavy burdens by the law beyond reason so they could feel (feel and seem better than others) Jesus was so angry with the Pharisees these clear offspring of vipers? Matthew 3:7-10, clearly demon led persons, Jesus and our anger anger at them was, is expressing Holy Righteous Rage against their idolatry, greed, self aggrandizement , hypocrisy, deceit, refusal to change, self righteousness
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Pharisees “The one saying not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery? The one detesting idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in Law, do you dishonor God through transgression of the Law?” (Romans 2:22-23)

 We all do need to get angry at the traditional heresy, lies, falsehoods and to get them out of our brains, as well as being angry with the the people spreading them too frequently !!!

John 9 41Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

Isa 56:11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

But even the Messianic Jewish Yeshua is not the Christian Jesus, but another false Jesus still

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

See also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/about-those-that-hate-me-and-thee-wrongfully/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/i-am-a-slave-to-no-man/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/the-ongoing-earthly-spiritual-battle-is-an-undeniable-fact/

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