The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus

The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus

(Rev 19:10 KJV) And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
(Deu 6:5 KJV) And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.
(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
(Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.
(John 15:5 KJV) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

Just cause the preacher may say it is alright to take Charge of your life does not make it so, are you now taking Charge of your own life or are you letting God to take Charge of his life.

(Jonah 1:2 KJV) Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me. 3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD.

Just cause the preacher says it is alright does not mean it is so… here is the truth, the reality still
1: Doing your own thing is still sinful, as Adam and Eve had found out or
2: doing nothing good is also sinful as Jonas found out..
for we are not our own, we all are slaves of God, and we have to first obey him and do only what he says for us to do and not what the preaches say is alright. (Acts 5:29 KJV) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

So do you read your Bible daily to find out God’s instructions for you or do you easily still just do your own thing, that which is right in your own eyes.

(Exo 15:26 KJV) And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.
(Deu 12:8 KJV) Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.
(Judg 17:6 KJV) In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
(Prov 12:15 KJV) The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life generally still turn to a simplified Old Testament version gospel, practice and not a real New Testament based Gospel, religion or they even turn to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Sprit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They practice idolatry instead and now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. The devil leads them into this.

For example: “The Mainstream Baptists have repeatedly warned that Southern Baptists were being led into Bible idolatry. The 2000 BFM confirms the veracity of this charge. The SBC is officially requiring that members bow to the Bible before bowing to Jesus. SBC Demotes Jesus By Dr. Bruce Prescott”
Sadly even other denominations, groups are really falsely also now doing the same wrong things.. for there is great danger that most of these persons will subordinate the Living Word of God to the fallible interpretations of men, the false worship of mere men, objects too…

One of the sole reason that so many people do not get their prayers answered, and they do not have still now, today a deeper spiritual relationship with God is that they are still disobeying God, they still do have unrepentant sins in their own life today. You cannot walk in sin, in disobedience to God and also walk-in God’s will at the same time. One always has to first obey God. his Word and renounce one’s sins, sinful ways.

(1 Pet 3:12 KJV) For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
(Isa 1:15 KJV) And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
(Isa 1:16 KJV) Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
(Isa 1:17 KJV) Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
(Isa 1:18 KJV) Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
(Isa 1:19 KJV) If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
(Isa 1:20 KJV) But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
(Luke 20:47 KJV) Which devour widows’ houses, and for a show make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.
(1 Pet 3:7 KJV) Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
(Mat 7:23 KJV) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
(Mat 13:41 KJV) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
(Mat 24:12 KJV) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
(Luke 13:27 KJV) But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
(2 Tim 2:19 KJV) Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
(Titus 2:14 KJV) Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
(Heb 1:9 KJV) Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
(Acts 3:23 KJV) And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
(Mat 6:2 KJV) Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
(Mat 6:17 KJV) But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
(Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
(Mat 7:4 KJV) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
(Mat 7:5 KJV) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
(Rev 3:18 KJV) I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
(Rom 12:20 KJV) Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:
(Mat 18:9 KJV) And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
(Mat 22:44 KJV) The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

“The prologue of the 1963 BFM said,”The sole authority for faith and practice among Baptists is Jesus Christ.” This was an acknowledgment that Jesus is the only infallible interpreter of God’s will in human life. God’s will is perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ “whose will is revealed in the Holy Scriptures.” The prologue of the 2000 BFM unashamedly deletes this sentence and replaces it with a clause about “doctrines we hold precious and as essential to the Baptist tradition of faith and practice.” Notice is thereby given that Jesus is being demoted in Baptist life and a creed promoted. Why? Confirmation of Jesus’ demotion also comes in the first article of the 2000 BFM. The article on scriptures in the 1963 BFM said the Bible “is the record of God’s revelation of Himself to man.” The 2000 BFM deletes the words “the record of.” It says the Bible “is God’s revelation of Himself to man.” This is not a minor change. It is sub-Christian. Deleting the words, “the record of” is clear evidence that the Living Word of God is being subordinated to the written word. The Bible has become an idol and the uniqueness of Christian revelation has been undermined. Every religion, sect and cult claims some inspired writings as divine revelation .

True Christians believe that God reveals himself through more than the inspired words and thoughts and books. Words and thoughts and books, even when they are divinely inspired, are inadequate to reveal God’s person. What distinguishes us as Christians is that we believe that God revealed Himself uniquely in Jesus Christ.
The Bible still is not superior to Jesus and the Bible is not equal to Jesus as divine revelation. Jesus is God’s perfect revelation. The Bible is the record of God’s revelation.

Why? By saying that scripture “is God’s revelation” the 2000 BFM promotes the Bible to a place that properly belongs only to Christ. Then it goes on to demote Jesus further. Jesus is merely “the focus of divine revelation.” While “All scripture is a testimony to Christ,” the primacy of Christ over scriptures is no longer acknowledged. That is the effect of the 2000 BFM deletion of the confession that, “The criterion by which the Bible is to be interpreted is Jesus Christ.”
Without this safeguard there is great danger that these Southern Baptists will subordinate the Living Word of God to the fallible interpretations of men. All these changes make it clear that the primacy of divine revelation has clearly shifted from Jesus to the Bible. These Baptists are bowing to the Bible more than to Jesus. The Bible has become an idol. Even worse, a lesser idol has been forged. Soon we will see how many Baptists will be expelled from the SBC for refusing to bow to the 2000 BFM before bowing to Jesus.

Acknowledging that “The criterion by which the Bible is to be interpreted is Jesus Christ” reminds Baptists to interpret the Bible with humility. The only infallible interpreter of scripture is Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirt. “

To the experienced, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well..

(Psa 31:3 KJV) For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name’s sake lead me, and guide me.
(Isa 49:10 KJV) They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
(John 14:17 KJV) Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
(John 15:26 KJV) But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
(John 16:13 KJV) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
(1 John 4:6 KJV) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

We all still CONTINUALLY DO NEED TO trust the Holy Spirit as the main Teacher given by God to interret and to make His word clearer to us.

“God then began to show me that the word of God alone is our standard of judgment in spiritual things; that it can be explained only by the Holy Spirit; and that in our day, as well as in former times. He is the Teacher of His people. The office of the Holy Spirit I had not experimentally understood before that time. It was my beginning to understand this latter point in particular, which had a great effect on me; for the Lord enabled me to put it to the test of experience, by laying aside commentaries, and almost every other book and simply reading the word of God and studying it. I learned more in a few hours than I had done during a period of several months previously.” George Müller (1805-1898) http://www.ccel.org/ccel/murray/prayer.XXXII.html

(Heb 10:19 KJV) Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God; 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Jesus: (Rev 1:18 KJV) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
(Rev 14:8 KJV) And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
(Rev 18:2 KJV) And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Jesus: (Mat 11:28 KJV) Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
(Rev 3:20 KJV) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

We all are told to come to Jesus directly..

George Müller (1805-1898) was a Prussian-born English exemplary Christian man of faith and prayer, he established orphanages in Bristol and founded the Scriptural Knowledge Institution for Home and abroad.

“No Salary for George George Mueller had joyfully dedicated his “whole life to the object of exemplifying how much may be accomplished by prayer and faith.” When he had moved to Bristol in 1832 to take the pulpit of Gideon chapel, he and his wife Mary decided not to accept a salary from the congregation. They wanted to daily depend upon the Lord for their needs, and they accepted only unsolicited freewill offerings. Mueller’s journal is full of the amazing ways the Lord directed funds to them throughout his sixty-six years of ministry.”

“At Bristol, Mueller began reading a biography of a great leader of the “Pietism” movement, A. H. . Francke, who had founded an orphan house at Halle in 1696. Francke’s orphanage became the largest enterprise for orphans then existing in the world, and he had trusted in God for every provision. As Mueller began to work with the poor in Bristol, he too wanted to trust the Lord and bring every need to Him in prayer.”

George Mueller throughout most of his personal life he freely received from God and he also continually freely gave as well, expecting nothing in return, he did not sell anything for money or make requests of anyone for money. He lived by a real, practicing faith in God and not in man.. totally unlike most of the bad monetary, commercialized pastors, evangelists today. Though much money had passed through his hands he George Mueller did not accumulate any wealth for himself. “It ill becomes the servant to seek to be rich, and great, and honoured in that world where his Lord was poor, and mean, and despised. – George Mueller. Ironically and hypocritically most of the people who today do even promote this basic exemplary Christian way of life, wrongfully contradict the example of the Christian George Mueller by their own wrongful begging, asking for money, commercialization of the Gospel of Jesus Christ

“Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear” (Hebrews 11:1).

FIRST: WHAT IS FAITH? In the simplest manner in which I am able to express it, I answer: Faith is the assurance that the thing which God has said in His Word is true, and that God will act according to what He has said in His Word. This assurance, this reliance on God’s Word, this confidence is FAITH.

NO IMPRESSIONS ARE TO BE TAKEN IN CONNECTION WITH FAITH. Impressions have neither one thing nor the other to do with faith. Faith has to do with the Word of God. It is not impressions, strong or weak, which will make any difference. We have to do with the written Word and not ourselves or our impressions.
PROBABILITIES ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. Many people are willing to believe regarding those things that seem probable to them. Faith has nothing to do with probabilities. The province of FAITH begins where probabilities cease and sight and sense fail. A great many of God’s children are cast down and lament their want of Faith. They write to me and say that they have no impressions, no feeling, they see no probability that the thing they wish will come to pass. APPEARANCES ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. The question is – whether God has spoken it in His Word.

And now, beloved Christian friends, you are in great need to ask yourselves whether you are in the habit of thus confiding, in your inmost soul, in what God has said, and whether you are in earnest in seeking to find whether the thing you want is in accordance with what He has said in His Word.

SECOND: HOW FAITH MAY BE INCREASED. God delights to increase the Faith of His children. Our Faith which is feeble at first, is developed and strengthened more and more by us. We ought, instead of wanting no trials before victory, no exercise for patience, to be willing to take them from God’s hand as a means. I say – and say it deliberately – trials, obstacles, difficulties, and sometimes defeats, are the very food of Faith. I get letters from so many of God’s dear children who say: “Dear Brother Mueller, I’m writing this because I am so weak in faith.” Just so surely as we ask to have our Faith strengthened, we must feel a willingness to take from God’s hand the means for strengthening it. We must allow Him to educate us through trials and bereavements and troubles. It is through trials that Faith is exercised and developed more and more. God affectionately permits difficulties, that He may develop unceasingly that which He is willing to do for us, and to this end we should not shrink, but if He gives us sorrow and hindrances and losses and afflictions, we should take them out of His hands as evidences of His love and care for us in developing more and more that Faith which He is seeking to strengthen in us.

The Church of God is not aroused to see God as the beautiful and lovable One He is, and hence the littleness of blessedness. Oh, beloved brothers and sisters in Christ, seek to learn for yourselves, for I cannot tell you the blessedness! In the darkest moments I am able to confide in Him, for I know what a beautiful and kind and lovable Being He is, and, if it be the will of God to put us in the furnace, let Him do it, that so we may acquaint ourselves with Him as He will reveal Himself, and that we may know Him better. We come then to the conclusion that God is a lovable Being, and we are satisfied with Him, and say: “It is my Father, let Him do as He pleases.”

When I first began to allow God to deal with me, relying on Him, taking Him at His Word, and set out fifty years ago simply relying on Him for myself, family, taxes, travelling expenses and every other need, I rested on the simple promises I found in the sixth chapter of Matthew. Read Matthew 6:25-34 carefully. I believed the Word, I rested on it and practiced it. I took God at His word. A stranger, a foreigner in England, I knew seven languages and might have used them perhaps as a means of remunerative employment but I had consecrated myself to labor for the Lord, I put my reliance in the God who has promised, and He has acted according to His Word. I’ve lacked nothing – nothing. I have had my trials, my difficulties, and my purse empty, but my receipts have aggregated thousands of dollars, while the work has gone on these 51 years. Then, with regard to my pastoral work; for the past 51 years I have had great difficulties, great trials and perplexities. There will always be difficulties, always trials. But God has sustained me under them and delivered me out of them, and the work has gone on. Now, this is not, as some have said, because I am a man of great mental power, or endowed with energy and perseverance – these are not the reasons. It is because I have confided in God; because I have sought God, and He has cared for the Institution, which, under His direction, has 100 schools, with masters and mistresses and other departments which I have told you before.

I do not carry the burden. And now in my 67th year, I have physical strength and mental vigor for as much work as when I was a young man in the university, studying and preparing Latin orations. I am just as vigorous as at that time. How comes this? Because in the last half century of labor I’ve been able, with the simplicity of a child, to rely upon God. I have had my trials, but I have laid hold upon God, and so it has come to pass that I have been sustained. It is not only permission, but positive command that He gives, to cast the burdens upon Him. Oh, let us do it! My beloved brothers and sisters in Christ, “Cast thy burden upon the Lord and He shall sustain thee.” Day by day I do it. This morning sixty matters in connection with the church of which I am pastor, I brought before the Lord, and thus it is, day by day I do it, and year by year; ten years, thirty years, forty years. Do not, however, expect to obtain full Faith at once. All such things as jumping into full exercise of Faith in such things I discountenance. I do not believe in it. All such things go on in a natural way. The little I did obtain, I did not obtain all at once. All this I say particularly, because letters come to me full of questions from those who seek to have their Faith strengthened. Begin over again, staying your soul on the Word of God, and you will have an increase of your Faith as you exercise it.

One thing more. Some say, “Oh, I shall never have the gift of Faith Mr. Mueller has got.” This is a mistake – it is the greatest error – there is not a particle of truth in it. My Faith is the same kind of Faith that all of God’s children have had. It is the same kind that Simon Peter had, and all Christians may obtain the like Faith. My Faith is their Faith, though there may be more of it because my Faith has been a little more developed by exercise then theirs; but their Faith is precisely the Faith I exercise, only, with regard to degree, mine may be more strongly exercised. Now, my beloved brothers and sisters, begin in a little way.
At first I was able to trust the Lord for ten dollars, then for a hundred dollars, then for a thousand dollars, and now, with the greatest ease, I could trust Him for a million dollars, if there was occasion. But first, I should quietly, carefully, deliberately examine and see whether what I was trusting for, was something in accordance with His promises in His written Word.

“As laborers together with Him” (2 Corinthians 6:1).
Read more about George Mueller on http://www.oldtruth.com/blog.cfm/id.2.pid.94

http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Voice/George.Mueller.of.Bristol/George.Mueller.Bristol.18.html

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/murray/prayer.XXXII.html
George Mueller has proved to the world the truth of Philippians 4:19. But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Three weeks after his marriage, he and his wife decided to depend on God alone to supply their needs–never again to approach people about them. Now he felt led to relinquish his small salary as a preacher completely. Wishing that all support be spontaneous, he put a box in the chapel for his needs; determining never to run into debt, and to get his needs supplied only by requests to God Himself. This was October, 1830. When he died, in March 1898, 68 years later, he had obtained from God more than any one else who ever lived–seven and a half million dollars . Mueller read the Bible through over 200 times, half of these times on his knees. He said he knew of some 50,000 specific answers to prayer…requests to God alone!
http://www.uvm.edu/~sbross/biography/muller.txt

Please see also George Muller, and the Secret of his Power in Prayer
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/murray/prayer.XXXII.html

(Phil 3:9 KJV) And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

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http://cityocean.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/free-christian-resources-ebooks-wallpaper/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

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